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Speaker 2: Us doing what we welcome?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're feeling what we're feeling. It's Friday, January thirty one,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. We got a loaded combat sports weekend

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Speaker 2: in front of us, and this is the best damn

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Speaker 2: combat show they ever done created. They call it Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Welcome on End. Today we'll be breaking down Prime Mussolini

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Speaker 2: and figuring out whether sorry, wrong wrong show for the

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Speaker 2: wrong time. Hey, it's your boy, BC. It's Brian Campbell

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Speaker 2: live in direct from Las Vegas, of course, one day

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Speaker 2: out from Benavitez morel PBC on Prime pay per View.

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Speaker 2: Get fired up. But that man right there, that man

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Speaker 2: right there, that guy. Yeah, do it, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Other one other one other one. Gross.

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Speaker 1: You're gross.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty gross. Hey, Luke Thomas from Washington, DC. Luke,

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Speaker 2: how in the damn hell are you this morning? As

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Speaker 2: we head into a loaded weekend?

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Speaker 1: You know that. I'll say it's a it's a mix

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Speaker 1: of a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: On the one hand, we have UFC Saudi Arabia tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We also have it you're gonna be on that call.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for that Benavidez versus Morel. On the

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Speaker 1: other hand, I've got the third Reich in my Twitter comments,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's a mix of a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Really, so uh to recap and I woke up to

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Speaker 2: n words from the biggest star in MMA history. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what in the damn hell? All right, we'll get into it.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into it. Put that with the misogyny and

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Speaker 2: racism aside for a second and just enjoy life.

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Speaker 1: Let's see that shirt. Let's see that shirt. What you

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about right here?

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Speaker 1: What was it saying? Kevin Nash? Kevin Nash is he

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Speaker 1: was like a seven footer, right, It's like a big dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, former college basketball player, you know he was. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was at the University of Tennessee. He was a

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Speaker 2: backup scrub. But uh, you know what we are, Luke,

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Speaker 2: We are scrubs, but we are dominating our respective industries.

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Speaker 2: This show is coming for your facehole, folks, so please like, subscribe,

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Speaker 2: tell your friends, follow us of course on our extended

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Speaker 2: solo channels. There of the Luke Thomas experience and the

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Speaker 2: the Brian Campbell on Crown Show. Also, we have a

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Speaker 2: great third member of the team and you can see

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Speaker 2: his face on Fridays. He's our producer, director and expert

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Speaker 2: of all things degeneracy. It's Bong Island, Luke Nocida of

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Speaker 2: the main card minute, Hey, Luke, how are you.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing good, guys. I'm hyped UFC Saudi this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Pretty good card might even be better than UFC three twelve.

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Speaker 1: See people say that, but I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 1: I mean the main event for three twelve is your

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Speaker 1: Milage may Varia. I actually don't mind it because I

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Speaker 1: think it's interesting. Comane is very important. You got the

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Speaker 1: Tuporia Brothers and you don't have stars Bong Island, Luke,

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Speaker 1: but you got a bunch of Australian good fighters kind

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you got eight Ausi's fighting.

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Speaker 6: I'll definitely be putting in the Aussie part, like definitely

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Speaker 2: Your father you will, yeah, exactly, yes, yes, great to

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Speaker 2: have such a degenerate person in our lives, Luke. As

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Speaker 2: long you know, would you would you declare Blong Island

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Speaker 2: Luke in the category of like, I need ten grand

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Speaker 2: no questions asked tomorrow, I got to ask somebody. I

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the fixer.

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Speaker 1: but there's certain things he could be the fixer on,

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Speaker 2: Mikey knows where the THHC is. Okay, let's just say.

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Speaker 1: That it's in his tummy and lungs.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have a great show for you today, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: Fight night, ri Odd Benevedez, morele the loaded pay per

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Speaker 2: choice today. It's rain energy drink. What flavor you got

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Speaker 2: going on there?

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Speaker 1: Rainbow Sherbet, Rainbow Sherbet. People always say Sherbert. It is

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Speaker 1: not Sherbert. Shrbert is not a word. It is sure bet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, what long island Luke?

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Speaker 2: You can say Sherbert. It's okay, It's okay.

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Speaker 2: said that. I mean, that's just it's great. I love

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Speaker 2: our life. This is great. Okay, this is this.

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Speaker 2: dead wrongs like we do every Friday. And please do

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Speaker 2: would be very disgusting inappropriate. Thank you very much, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Anything you want to say about life, liberty, the pursuit

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Speaker 1: Just very quickly. Actually it was just for you. You

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Speaker 2: Well, the feeling on the ground will have to wait.

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Speaker 2: I did arrive late last night. I'm gonna be heading

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Speaker 2: Look like we already knew. Benavetez Morel was this big fight.

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Speaker 2: Can't miss have to see it. The stakes are huge.

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Speaker 2: The the dislike between them has been a bonus, but

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Speaker 2: Things are heating up in Vegas, and I have to

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Speaker 1: Are you doing? Are you doing the n ring interviews?

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Speaker 2: I will be color commentary and in ring interviews.

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Speaker 5: Dude, dude, for all, for all the.

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Speaker 2: Main card fights, for the four main card pay per

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Speaker 1: Yes, damn, bro, that's a lot of work. That's a

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Speaker 2: Well, it's also a dream come true.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Long Island, Luke's sharing with us, and

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Speaker 1: Well, let's get it over with, right.

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Speaker 2: Topic was the history of Internet pornography. Here's a forty

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Speaker 2: five minute TED talk from yours truly and Luke Thomas. No,

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Speaker 2: here we go topic number one. Unfortunately, it has runneth

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Speaker 2: over the unchecked free speech in the world of mixed

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Speaker 2: by UFC featherweight Bryce Mitchell, who in the first episode

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Speaker 2: of his new podcast, made headlines everywhere with abhorrent comments

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Speaker 2: Dana White, immediately, by the way, in Saudi Arabia for

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Speaker 4: That's what everybody wants to hear about punishments free speech.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the beautiful thing about this business. For all

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Speaker 1: And whatever you want to call Bryce did Nazism adjacent

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Speaker 1: And we've known this for a while, Detached from reality,

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Speaker 1: things that you see being proliferated out now and when

432
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Speaker 1: that reckoning comes, mma is going to have it coming

433
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: to it. And nobody can say it didn't deserve it.

434
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: Nobody can say it didn't have it coming. Nobody can

435
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: say that there would be the victim of some kind

436
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: of unfair witch hunt. It has openly embraced the idea

437
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 1: that the worst kinds of ideas, and in certain cases,

438
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: the worst kinds of people are totally normal when we

439
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: know they are not.

440
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Speaker 2: Dude, I don't even think the story anymore, and you

441
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: can create anybody can criticize me for saying, this is

442
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: Bryce Mitchell and what he said, I think in this

443
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: echoes with what you just said. The story. Here is

444
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: the UFC's lack of any response that I mean, look

445
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: nice response from data, well timed, yes, but in terms

446
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: of actual responses to make sure it doesn't happened again

447
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: and to draw a line and says okay, we do

448
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: have standards. And here is where this has met to me.

449
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: This is an escalation of not punishing Connor McGregor when

450
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: he threw the dolly through the window, injured co workers,

451
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, caused a lot of trauma there he only

452
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: got rewarded with the biggest fight Seawan Strickland in the

453
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: past couple of years making very lewde public comments at

454
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: UFC press conferences about that if his children were homosexuals,

455
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: he would never love him. Stuff like that. That just said, look,

456
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: freedom of speech is his belief. When, like you said, Luke,

457
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: when they don't do this at all, you're constantly raising

458
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: the bar of what you allow. But let's actually break

459
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: down what is freedom of speech. Freedom of speech means

460
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Speaker 2: you can say what you want and not get arrested

461
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: and thrown in jail, which means, at least as of

462
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: right now, you could criticize a president or whomever and

463
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 2: not lose your freedom because of that. Yeah, I support that,

464
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: but there has to be consequences and boundary set below

465
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: that in terms of can you still hold your job?

466
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: What about like, here's the thing YOUFC. You're not BKFC

467
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: right now in two thousand twenty five. You're not this

468
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: niche thing that's fighting for its own lane and you're

469
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: raw and you're rugged. That was UFC in two thousand

470
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: and three, four, five, six, Right. Maybe back then they

471
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: could have survived something like this with the idea of well,

472
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: we're just cage fighters. Let these guys be who they want,

473
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: your publicly traded company, you're on ESPN, Disney right, Like,

474
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: it's we're so far past the idea that this could

475
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: be allowed. So from the top down for them to

476
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: just be like, well, his punishment is you can boo

477
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: him the next time he fights and hope he gets

478
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: knocked out and we'll all benefit from it. Yeah, let's

479
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: do that. That's the most coward of shit I've seen

480
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five by far. It runs a a

481
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: in a straight upward parallel of ridiculousness that includes, like

482
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 2: I said, Strickland's comments anytime John Jones or somebody gets

483
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: into hot waters or to Connor mcgar oh, they paid

484
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: enough with their legal fees. They already paid their dues. There, No,

485
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: you need to be a responsible adult running a company

486
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 2: and basically say, even if it's just to say, for

487
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: the protection of money and sponsors, we don't stand for this,

488
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: we don't allow this, and to prove that we will,

489
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: we will. Part could be anything. Do you want to

490
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: cut him justified? Do you want to at least just

491
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: like suspend him for a year justified? That tells other people.

492
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: We don't allow this. Do you know how many times

493
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: they've said homosexual stuff and post fight interviews talking trash.

494
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Speaker 2: It's like I get in some degree that this is

495
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: combat sports and boxing is not perfect either. The difference

496
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: in boxing is there's no centralized regulation, regulatory body. It's

497
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: the wild West.

498
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: Still.

499
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Speaker 2: Yes, there's still too many pockets of random homophobia when

500
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: people are talking trash and things like that. But I

501
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: want to reiterate something here. This is not Bryce telling

502
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: a joke that went too far. Like, I wonder what

503
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: Miguel Torres thinks about this, right, because he made that

504
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: horrible rape comment on social media and just got cut

505
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: back in a different time when Dana White and UFC

506
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: needed public acceptance and wanted to be as mainstream as

507
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: they are now, why back then do they actually have

508
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: standards where Dana White would come out publicly after the

509
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Speaker 2: Torres incident and say they can't just say whatever they want.

510
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: There's consequences. Well, now that they're at the top, there's

511
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: no longer consequences. What kind of absolute bullshit is this?

512
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: It's just it's toxic. You're right, Luke, it's probably setting

513
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: the stage for something massively regrettable to happen, and it

514
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: begs a larger question of what would you actually have

515
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: to do to get fired by the UFC?

516
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: What is it?

517
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: Because it was weird enough to wake up for me

518
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: to see Connor McGregor in one tweet saying Bryce Mitchell's

519
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: a good guy, but we should all pray for him

520
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 2: because he screwed up, and then in the next tweet

521
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: drop the N word casually and aggressively and sell Habib

522
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: his wife and his country and his people and his religion.

523
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: And we've talked about this before on the build to

524
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: ConA versus Habib, where Dana refused to draw a line

525
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: in terms of what is allowed to be talked about.

526
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: And there's one idealism of well, it's trash talk, let

527
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: it go, it's building to the fight. But there's certain

528
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: categories and certain people that don't mess around when you

529
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: get into those certain caps categories, and suddenly you're removing

530
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: the safety of spectators. I mean, what if an incident

531
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: blows up out of a fight based on Bryce Mitchell's

532
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: negative comments, What if members of the crowd attack him.

533
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you're setting yourself up by not policing this

534
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: for absolute mayhem for what reason to protect free speech. Look,

535
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: I'm not saying throw Bryce Mitchell in a jail cell,

536
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: but I'm saying, if you're at this level UFC and

537
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: you don't have the balls to police your own, your

538
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: own group of people right now, then yeah, as Luke said,

539
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: get ready for the reckoning to come. It won't be

540
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: pretty and it may set the sport back decades, but

541
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: you know this is the bed you made. I cannot

542
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: believe this. And look, the craziest thing here is we've

543
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: been taught and I know this is not necessarily related

544
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: kind of, but we've been talking lately about Wow, bkfc's

545
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: on fire. Imagine if Connor could just get out of

546
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: his UFC contract and fight for them, how big could

547
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: they become? Luke? What would Connor actually have to say

548
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: to get cut from UFC? Knowing that, like, if they did,

549
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: he would just go make money elsewhere. When you don't

550
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: have standards, dude, I mean, it's it's absolutely ridiculous. Right now?

551
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: How is this our lead story on Friday morning ahead

552
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: of a loaded weekend?

553
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: Right?

554
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 7: Oh?

555
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's no rules for this.

556
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: Because they allow it to be. Because they allow it

557
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: to be, they allow it to be by doing nothing

558
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: about anything other than as I mentioned before. You're asking,

559
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: what would Connor have to do to get let go?

560
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Tell the truth about the business model,

561
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, tell the truth about

562
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: how he had to give up so much money for

563
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: the Mayweather fight, and you know everything else that went

564
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: into things like that. That would really upend it, you know, BC,

565
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: I don't We don't need to kill it. We've been

566
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: over it a million times at this point. But guys,

567
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I have lived long enough. I watched

568
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: blowback to blow back to blow back to blowback. I

569
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: am a I am remember this now, Remember this now,

570
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: And it may not be for years. It could be

571
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: quite some time. There is a reckoning coming. There is

572
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: a reckoning coming for this, and I'm telling you it's

573
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: not going to be pretty. And everyone who has participated

574
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: in it and thought that it was fucking cool and

575
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: wheat to be shitty to Jews and shitty to black

576
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: people and shitty to women because the culture wasn't quite

577
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: as punitive as it once was, this is gonna come

578
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: back around. And I'm telling you it's gonna eat alive

579
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: everyone and everything that participated in it. Remember me telling

580
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: you this on January thirty first, twenty twenty five.

581
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: Remember that, Well, hopefully Luke Trump can part in all

582
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: of these bad actors when it's time for all of that.

583
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 7: But I just can you believe?

584
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: Can you imagine women's softball? Hey guys, the World Series

585
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: of Women's College Softball is going to be to take

586
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: a place here in Laredo, Texas today. First thing's first,

587
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Texas A and M whoever

588
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: the fuck their mascot is whatever, the aggies saying all

589
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: gay should be executed via firing squad. Let's talk about

590
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: that first. That's the fucking sport that we have because

591
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: nobody wants to be even remotely a little bit decent. Yo,

592
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: It's okay to be decent, It's okay to be humane,

593
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: it's okay to say, you know what, we don't want

594
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: to be associated with people who have ideas from nineteen

595
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: thirty fucking nine, or just accept the consequences of what

596
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: will happen long term. Make make your bed because either

597
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: way you're gonna get it.

598
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: I close the curtain in here, Luke, because that.

599
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: The light was killing. Let's move on. From the shit.

600
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: It makes me angry to even fucking talk about it.

601
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I'm with you right there.

602
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: All right.

603
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: That's enough.

604
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it anymore, thank you.

605
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: Topic number two is Real Fights this weekend going down

606
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: Riad the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and a loaded fight

607
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: night card. Two absolutely delectable treats atop the marquee in

608
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 2: first and foremost being the return of thirty five year

609
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: old former two time middleway champion Israel Addys Destinia Israel

610
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: lot of Sonia's back only, Luke, He's lost three of four,

611
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: including two by stoppage heading into this UFC Saudi main

612
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: event opposite Nasordine im Avov? Is this about a question

613
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: of irrelevance? Luke? That's the question? Is he Rix? Is

614
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: he risk huge setbacks? While Imovov risks looking like a

615
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: permanent non title threat. Do you think that's the fair

616
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: way to frame the stakes here? As I is, he

617
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: looks to prove to us that he still got it in,

618
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: Imovov enters the toughest test of his career.

619
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: Man, this is such an interesting one. Imovov twenty eight

620
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: years old, eleven months is he thirty five years six months.

621
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: I I think framing it as like a question of

622
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: irrelevance is a little strong, but I generally agree ish

623
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: with that framing. Namely, let's look at the career of Imovov. Right,

624
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, he's fifteen to four, twenty eight years old,

625
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: three fight win streak, the leads a cannoneer and Allen incredible. Right,

626
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: he had the no contest to Chris Curtis from the

627
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: what was it the head butt whatever that was, I

628
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: forget exactly what happened there, And he lost to Shan

629
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: Strickland before that, but he has wins before that, bc Ian, Heinish,

630
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: Edmund Shabazi and Joaquin Buckley and now granted that was middleweight,

631
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: but you get the idea still, and then losing to

632
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Shan Strickland. So he lost to Sean Strickland to Phil Hawes,

633
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: which is kind of weird, but he's But the point

634
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is he had a little bit

635
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: of a pocket of wins and now he's got a

636
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: really great momentum heading into this. There's a question like

637
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: coming from MMA factory. Yes, he's got Dakistan roots, but

638
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: he's you know, basically been French trained and I bring

639
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: that up to say, obviously, you're gonna be the function

640
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: of the product of what's around you, and so what's

641
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: around you is MMA factory. He's been questions about whether

642
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: or not they can really deliver a guy to that

643
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: next level. They tried with Cyril God who has a

644
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: lot of natural athleticism, but BC, I think it's fair

645
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: to say his development has not gone as planned. Remember

646
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Francis Sangan who famously left a factory MM I call

647
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: him MMA factory factory MMA. But the point I'm trying

648
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: to make is maybe this guy's gonna turn. He does

649
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: appear to be somebody who's got something going for him

650
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: right now. His skills have certainly gotten much more refined.

651
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: This is an interesting time for a guy who I

652
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: think people were observing and respecting but not counting on

653
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: as necessarily being elite, Whereas it's the exact opposite scenario

654
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 1: for Izzy. He has been not only counted on as

655
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: being elite. He's the second best middleweight of freaking all time.

656
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the losing the three out of four

657
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: that is bad, except the one win is the finishing

658
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: of Pooton, which is kind of remarkable. And then the

659
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Strickland loss is bad, there's really no getting around that.

660
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: But the the DDP fight was competitive for as long

661
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: as he was in it. What's the one that I'm

662
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: not mentioning? The oh, the first or the first MMA

663
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: Pooton fight, right, which was which which he was looking

664
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: good in just tell until he wasn't. Yeah, So it's

665
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: like you can't you can't bury him. But if you

666
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: lose to a guy who's never been I mean, losing

667
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: to Strickland, former champion, losing the poton double champion. Uh,

668
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're losing to guys who

669
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: are really really good. That's not I mean, this is

670
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: not a DDP champion. This would be different. This is

671
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: somebody who might have that kind of potential, but we

672
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: don't know. So I really love this fight. It's not

673
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: just old versus new and then style contrast. It's really

674
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: a question of who belongs right now in this division

675
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: as somebody who can either in is the case, maintain

676
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: excellence or in the case of Imovov, upset the apple cart.

677
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: A lot to like about this.

678
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a referendum man out of Sonia. There's no question,

679
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: And like you said, it's not a completely unfair one.

680
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: We're not saying are you washed? Is it ready? Are

681
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: you ready to retire tomorrow? We're just saying, when you

682
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: pocket that many losses on the highest level against the

683
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: truly elite, it certainly shakes the foundation of whether you

684
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: still have it at this age and all of that.

685
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: So this is the perfect opponent, the perfect setting. Is

686
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: he's first non title bout in something like six years

687
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: to come out and show us because there are still

688
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: huge stakes at stake for is he here you get

689
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: past imavav you revive yourself to a certain degree to

690
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: be back in the middleweight title picture or Luke, even

691
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: though I seem to be the only one banging this

692
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: drum year after year or month after month. The idea

693
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: that he might be able to off of a win

694
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: here if they wanted to to move up light heavyweight

695
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: and they could cash in on that trilogy. Look, do

696
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: you think that that is in the UFC's plans and idealism?

697
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: Knowing that Poeton has put out very often the idea

698
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: that he wants to move up to heavyweight become the

699
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: first three division champion, do you think they would be

700
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: willing or would want to make Izzy versus Poton three

701
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: at light heavyweight. If Izzy comes back this Saturday and

702
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: looks great against Immabov, is there a link in there

703
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: in your eyes? Is there a connection?

704
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: I would never dismiss it. I would never dismiss it.

705
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: I would never dismiss that that is. I mean, that

706
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: would be a big fight, right, that would be a

707
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: really big fight. And also I don't know how likely

708
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: it is because i Isy's teammate Carlos Olberg happens to

709
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: be maybe you could say surging, right, you could certainly

710
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: moving up the ranks. I think is a very fair

711
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: way to put it. I don't know if you'd want

712
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: to jump the line, but maybe he would if they

713
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: felt like they were still The UFC communicated there's still

714
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: one or two fights left for him before they would

715
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: even consider a title shot. But I just want to

716
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: point out there are some complicating factors there beyond just

717
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: what happens between Poton and on Calve and heavyweight. There's

718
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: the Olberg factor. But I don't even necessarily think that

719
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: that's their number one target. I think they're trying to

720
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: see number one what they've got with Imovov, and if

721
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: Izzy ends up like really getting back to business here,

722
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: and I know that his coach has kind of spoke

723
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: about really like upping the intensity of what they've been

724
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: doing in the training environment. I think putting him back

725
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: in a title fight at middleweight is actually what they

726
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: might consider doing, just because you know the star factor involved.

727
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: If he loses, what he passes to the potential winner there,

728
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, beating all the former champions who are still

729
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: active in your division if you cancel, Like for example,

730
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: let's say DDP wins at UFC three twelve, so DDP

731
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: has beaten Whittaker, he'd have to face Chimayev. If Chamaiev wins,

732
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: will have beaten Whittaker, and then at that point, let's

733
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: say potentially DDP and then potentially is he There's like

734
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: a really great way to establish firm dominance and become

735
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: a brand and a star in the sport by doing

736
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I think they're trying to see

737
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: whether he's a good test for Imovov and Imalvov surges,

738
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: or is he retains his status anyway but then can

739
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: be used for that title five purpose a middleweight down

740
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: the line. I think that's the likeliest outcome as we

741
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: look at.

742
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: The adds from DraftKings. At this moment Israel Adasania a

743
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: minus one sixty two favorite, the plus one thirty six

744
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: Imovov a virtual pick him for him may standards here.

745
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: So Luke Thomas, is the question in this matchup as

746
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: simple as this. If is he still got it and

747
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: it looked like he still had it in the first

748
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: couple rounds against DP, then he beats Himovov straight up

749
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: pay that man his money. But if at thirty five

750
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: too much of the past has taken from him who

751
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: he once was, then he loses this humbly and maybe

752
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: we are talking about the end? Is it as simple

753
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: as looking at it as that? Because I just said

754
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: this isn't about should is he retire? But if he

755
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: goes out there, looks lifeless and loses, you do have

756
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: to ask yourself, why are you hanging around after that?

757
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's just a question of how he looks.

758
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't think a loss. You know, I was asked yesterday,

759
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: do you think if he loses he'll retire? He would

760
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: have to get drubbed or dominated, you know what I mean,

761
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: like really made to look bad. I think for that

762
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: to happen, which you know, you can pick Imovov to win,

763
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if Busy looks bad along the way.

764
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: But you know, if you go if he goes in

765
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: there and gets beat up or viciously chaoted or something

766
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: like that, then there really is a question of like

767
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: health versus wealth, what really makes sense for this, It

768
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: would very much hasten the end. And remember, folks like

769
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: is he has not had like a super long MMA career,

770
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: But we're talking about a guy with between kickboxing, boxing

771
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: and MMA over one hundred pro fights, you know, and

772
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: insane like in a way is he's a bit of

773
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: an iron man, which means he probably won't go away easy.

774
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: But the incentive structure bcs to the kind of point

775
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: you're making, could hasten it. Or or like I said,

776
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: he turns back the clock on Saturday and all of

777
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're talking about Strickland rematches, You're talking about Chimayev,

778
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: You're talking about DDP rematches, like, there's all kinds of stuff.

779
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's still big business to a certain you know,

780
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: as a brand for them, no question long. I'll look

781
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: at a great question though, I want him to bring

782
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: to the airwaves that he brought to our chat about

783
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: what would happen if he loses. Speak to us, L

784
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: I L.

785
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 6: I just wanted to get you excited about it, BC,

786
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 6: But I said, if Izzy loses, you got to make

787
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 6: the Gastulum rematch, right, cotal.

788
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 7: Fight would be a great fight.

789
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: Looser leaves town. In all seriousness, No, Cita, what do

790
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: you think about these odds? You are a gambling man,

791
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: as we like to.

792
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 6: Say, I'm taking easy. I was shocked kind of how

793
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 6: close they were. I thought he'd be in the minus

794
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 6: two hundred range. I got him at minus one forty seven,

795
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 6: which is pretty good. Have it in a parlay with

796
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 6: a couple other things. But I'm feeling good about Izzy on.

797
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 2: All right, I understand that long Luke Thomas, how close

798
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: do you believe is he still is to the man

799
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: that knocked out would occur in the first fight to

800
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: win the championship.

801
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty far from that. But you know,

802
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: you can fall pretty far from that and still be

803
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: very good, right. I don't think he's got the same

804
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: re flex, is the same kind of fire, To be

805
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: honest with you, you know, listen the end of or

806
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's not the end of his career necessarily,

807
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: but he's certainly closer to the end than he ever,

808
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, than he has been, and it's probably not

809
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: that far. You know. It's when you've done as well

810
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: as he has. On one sense, you don't want to

811
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: let that go. On the other hand, it kind of

812
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: slows a guy down. So this is why I'm really

813
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: interested Long Island. Luke, you got that graphic of a

814
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: bearman talking, put it on the screen here.

815
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: Quote.

816
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: There are a few things I'm doing quite differently with

817
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: Izzy for this fight BC. They're a lot more drastic

818
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: to what I'm usually accustomed to doing based on past performances.

819
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: I thought we needed to really just kind of flip

820
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: things on it on its head a bit. He's responding

821
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: really well and he's looking really really good. I'm looking

822
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: for a vintage performance from Israel, and so far we're

823
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: right on track for that. So they're expecting a bit

824
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: of a back to basics here. But it sounds like

825
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: what they did was they up some intensity, really kind

826
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: of put them through the fire. You had other coaches

827
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: speak out about how much this train was supposed to

828
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: rejuvenate him. I think I'm interested to see if there's

829
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: anything to this if the ringing of the sponge in

830
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: this particular way yields any water, because if it doesn't,

831
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: well where do you go after that? Right?

832
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: There is there a time for a late reinvention where

833
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: he adds takedowns to his game, Luke, is this what

834
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: we're looking at? Do?

835
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: So? I'm a here on fight metric, what do you

836
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: think the takedown average per fifteen minutes is for.

837
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: Isy zero point seven?

838
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: Close, but it's even lower than that. It's zero point

839
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: zero five five percent, five percent.

840
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: That's Tarski level zero points.

841
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: Watually, No, this is not a percentage, so it's not

842
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: quite right, but you get the idea point zero five.

843
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: The answer is basically almost never. Is it all right?

844
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: Well?

845
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: The flip side question of does is he still have it?

846
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: Obviously is how good is Ivov? And you mentioned the

847
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: names that he tripped up upon, but he's certainly on

848
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: the best run, it seems of his career. I mean, Luke,

849
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: knocking out former title challenger Jared Cannoneer in round four

850
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: is not nothing to me. So the idea here is

851
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 2: if is he shows up competitive good but the age

852
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: factor is there or the what happens sometimes when they're

853
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: in this age bubble is the failure to launch. You know,

854
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: you can see the openings, but you can't pull the trigger.

855
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: Is Imovov dangerous enough to raise his game to another

856
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: level and do something really big here and out battle

857
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: and overcome him. What do you need to see out

858
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: of Imovov to show you that this is a possibility?

859
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: When they touch clothes and sere I have.

860
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, listen. Yeah, it's just my opinion, but I

861
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: feel like BC more than most people, you know. I've

862
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: really looked at the tape on Izzy. I've talked to

863
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: him about it. I've talked to his coaches about it.

864
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a halfway decent sense of

865
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't against him, And I think

866
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: the simplest way that I can describe again now to

867
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: the point you raise BCE, maybe not takedowns per se.

868
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: Maybe he shakes things up. And if he shakes things up,

869
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: then what I'm about to say is not going to

870
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: be as relevant. But if past his prologue, then I

871
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: think the biggest answer is leg kicking, calf kicking in particular,

872
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: but leg kicking more generally. And the reason why I

873
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: bring that up is twofold B See if you go

874
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: back to like the old Ramero fight. I know that's

875
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: not one of your nobody's favorite fight, and there is

876
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: some disputed scoring about it. But one of the really

877
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: interesting things you see in that fight, and it's something

878
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: he sees not just in that one, but many other ones,

879
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: is that what is he does with leg kicks, historically speaking,

880
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: is he'll score with them. He'll score an angle off,

881
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: he'll threaten back you up, you'll start going, he'll faint

882
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: like he's gonna kick to the legs, and you'll stop

883
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: and then reset. So he's forcing resets, he's disrupting rhythm,

884
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: he's changing position, and then he's just scoring with them.

885
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: More generally, I have seen so many rounds and so

886
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: many fights with him where that was the difference between

887
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: him winning and losing. Where a round would go by,

888
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: someone can't get something going, they ate a bunch of

889
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: leg kicks, and then at the end you're like, Okay,

890
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: well what really happened in this round? Yeah? Is these

891
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: leg kicks worth by far the most impressive thing and

892
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: the most relevant thing that happened in this round. It

893
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: happens all the time. Secondly, what I would say is

894
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: if you look at guys who had some success against him.

895
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: Now I know against Strickland he was injured, but Sean

896
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: Strickland's a good example. Joan Blohovich is a great example.

897
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: What would be one of the common things that they

898
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: did to get ahead and win that contest? And the

899
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: answer is they had they checked his leg kicks. They

900
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: checked it, and so it forced him into a different range,

901
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: which forced him to use a different set of weapons,

902
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: predominantly his boxing. And that is not nearly that he

903
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: is a good boxer, obviously, but it's not his strong suit.

904
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: I would argue in MMA, his strong suit is he

905
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: can combine kicking with punching and like combinations or you

906
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: are the two work in concert, but not just we're

907
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna fight inside boxing range and then let it go.

908
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of habits that I think are

909
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: more suited for kickboxing and a lot of more weapons

910
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: and prefers offense that flows through more kickboxing range. But

911
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: those guys had great success because they took away the

912
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: leg kicks from him, either checking, walking him down, a

913
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: combination of both, and then it made the fight here

914
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: and then it was a totally different fight. In the

915
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Blakhovich case, you had izzy, you know, pulling his hips

916
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: out in front, getting behind, and then he got taken

917
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: down for it. Right, So this is what I mean.

918
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: If Imovov doesn't have an answer for the leg kicks,

919
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: either through pressure checking, what takedowns, whatever, whatever the answer is,

920
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: the chances of him losing go up significantly. By contrast,

921
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: if you actually see in the first two three rounds

922
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: he's really got a good handle on checking that, and

923
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: I is he is going to have to go to

924
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: something else, I think the chances for Imovov go up significantly.

925
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: I want to see a sneaky war here, Luke. I

926
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: want to seriously, I want to see Imovov smell blood,

927
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: feel like he sees something in the old in the

928
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: old dog there out Asania that maybe isn't isn't you know,

929
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: maybe doesn't have the same resolve or motivation or or

930
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: or you know, fighting spirit, and he and he finds

931
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: his opening and looks you know, I'm not trying to

932
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: compare to the gasoline fight. There were different things in

933
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: the air at that moment, and Gastolin had certain skill

934
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: sets that he maximized in maybe the best performance despite

935
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: the defeat of his career. I really want to see Imovov,

936
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: make e Isy fight this, this, this, this is really

937
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: good matchmaking, Luke, and this really does have sneaky to

938
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: potential to be an entertaining affair on Saturday, even separate

939
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: from the whole referendum idea for Adistania, I just want

940
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: to I want Imovov not to leave any stone unturned,

941
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: meaning if he's got an opening here to make a

942
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 2: move and get this upset, win and advance his career.

943
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: I mean this would this would take him to a

944
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: level he's never been before. Go out there and get it,

945
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: go out there and get after it. Would you say

946
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 2: at times like he's dangerous, but he doesn't always fight

947
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: dangerous IV.

948
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: Historically yes, more recently No, more recently, I think he's

949
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: actually been a little bit more foot on the gas.

950
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm telling you That's what if they

951
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: if they matched up a year ago, I'd be like,

952
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: is he's you know, is his fight to lose? Might

953
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: still be, but it's a different fight now. For sure.

954
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: This is a great time for Imovov. This is a

955
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: we don't know time for Izzy. The uncertainty around it

956
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: adds to the intrigue. It's a well matched fight, a

957
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: really well matched fight Neat. Matchmakers did a good job

958
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: with this one.

959
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: But if you look at any of those recent losses

960
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: from out of Sonia three in the last four, the

961
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: Strickland one one is the most damning, the most one sided,

962
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: the most what happened to our guy? Are there elements

963
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: of that game plan from Strickland that Imovov can adapt,

964
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: even if it's just the idea of get on the

965
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: front foot and constantly back up and pressure.

966
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the pressure is the big one both

967
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: for takedowns, both to narrow howeveror is he can go.

968
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: It's going to be a big test of his footwork.

969
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: It's going to be a big test of his leg checking.

970
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: You know, That's something that Sean Strickland was really good at.

971
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: That's something that he has really kind of perfected, right

972
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: that that that square kind of Philly shell, the mma

973
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: variety that he does. But he picks his legs up

974
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: and he just you don't see him move back to reset.

975
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: He just kind of picks his leg up and then

976
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: keeps moving forward, and that was kryptonite in that particular fight. Again,

977
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: is he was injured a little bit to that heading

978
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: into that one, but not in terms of his legs

979
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: per se. So yes, I think I think pressure being

980
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: on the front foot. I just don't see how you

981
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: can let Izzy have a bunch of space both in

982
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: front of you and then behind him and think you've

983
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: got enough skill to beat him. That that seems like

984
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: real low percentage. You got to you gotta phone booth

985
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: that thing a little bit, and that's gonna take skill

986
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: and will.

987
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better work right, work it girl. Yeah, do

988
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: you a thing? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Hey, Luke,

989
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 2: we have another piece of video. Why don't you send

990
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: it up here?

991
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Let me see the video for this one? Uh no, no,

992
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: it's not video. It's not video. I just wanted to

993
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: show it. It's the It's Francis. Francis and Ganu showed

994
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: up to Saudi Arabia. Wow, he writes, just two days

995
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: before the battle for my brother. He's next to Izzy

996
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: in this picture, but he's stress free and in high spirits.

997
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: He looks even younger. B See. My question for you

998
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: is are they going to let Francis attend this fight, Because,

999
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: like Randy Gutore, is not allowed to attend UFC events.

1000
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: It would be awesome if they added Francis to the

1001
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: corner in an attempt to try to push that, Luke,

1002
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: because we have seen at times, remember when Dan Hardy

1003
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: was let go by the UFC, but you know Stoke

1004
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: would be able to come back to train his wife

1005
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: and all that. That would be interesting. But can we

1006
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: just always mention how frickin' Jack Frank is at all times?

1007
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, just electro for Francis.

1008
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, look at that. I mean, this motherfucker's got

1009
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't lifted a weight in like three

1010
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: months and he looks like that. You know, yeah, fucking insane.

1011
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, let's put our money where our mouth is.

1012
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: We love Izzy. There was a time that he was

1013
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: your favorite toy to grab out of the c KB bin.

1014
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why you keep making this argument. It's like, okay,

1015
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead.

1016
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: And now you've turned that bin into lot in Luke.

1017
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: You've just basically been like I've got I've got new

1018
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: Georgian heroes I like to play with here, Luke, does

1019
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: is he return to form? I mean there's a scenario,

1020
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: of course where he can get a w but take

1021
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: damage and not look great. That's happened before. What is

1022
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: the fallout for Saturday here, what happens to Izzy? Does

1023
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: he come back strong against I don't know.

1024
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really don't know. I mean the

1025
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: reality is what you know it to be. Is he

1026
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: has proven up to this point significantly more than someone

1027
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: like Imovov. But Father Time is undefeated, Imovov is surging.

1028
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't look Alan Luke irrespective of the odds, how

1029
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: do you feel about Imovov's chances?

1030
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 7: Forgot to put my camera.

1031
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 6: Uh, I think he has good chances, dude, I mean

1032
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 6: put it this way. I bet against Imovov, I think

1033
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 6: in his last three fights, and he's won every single

1034
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 6: time and set me every single time. It was Jared Kindaneer,

1035
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 6: it was Roman Dalidz and blank and on the other

1036
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 6: one Brendan Allen Brenda and yeah, there you go. Those

1037
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 6: three are bet against him every time. So I'm going

1038
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 6: four times in a row here. I mean, he could

1039
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 6: totally break my heart again. Definitely capable of it. But uh,

1040
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 6: I don't know. Yeah, it's definitely on the tape.

1041
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm at the see the scene,

1042
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at too, BC. It's like I definitely,

1043
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the odds are basically correct, like it's this

1044
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: is a huge test for This is a huge test

1045
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: for Imovov, and it's the right time for him. But

1046
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: I really don't know if he can pass it or not.

1047
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: I mean, my gut tells me he probably will. I

1048
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: just can't say it confidently, you know.

1049
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: Pure false though. Every time you see that purple mood

1050
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: lighting and no see the studio there, it makes you want.

1051
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: To like, yes, I mean, every time he comes on camera,

1052
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for him to like throw the smoke away,

1053
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1054
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: Luke, here's my pick. I'm gonna go with Izzy. But

1055
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna wear a little bit of this fight.

1056
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be talking about, Hey, the old

1057
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: vet got the job done. Maybe it doesn't look spectacular,

1058
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 2: Maybe it's more business like, workmanlike. I still think he's

1059
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: too talented as a counter striker at the end of

1060
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: the day. And if we're talking about im Avov trying

1061
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: to rattle the cage of him and come out and

1062
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: put pressure on him, maybe a La Strickland, I think

1063
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: Isy will respond accordingly. He understands where he's at in

1064
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: his career. He understands that it's a preparious situation when

1065
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: gets thrown directly back into absolutely huge fights or lose

1066
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: and you know what we're talking there, So Luke, I

1067
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 2: think he gets it done. But I wonder on Monday,

1068
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: what are we going to talk about? Are we going

1069
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: to talk about the idea that is, he won, got

1070
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: back on track, But is he still that dude? Does

1071
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: he still have that ilk? This may be a last

1072
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: stand type situation where he pours out more of that

1073
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: jug than he wants to survive in advance and get

1074
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: back into a big foot.

1075
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I mean. Like, this is because

1076
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: he's twenty eight. This is by no means the end

1077
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: of the line for like whether or not imo Avov

1078
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: will become something, But it could be the end of

1079
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: the line for Izzy. If you're starting to lose to

1080
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: guys who have never held a title and never been

1081
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: champion and really never even been top three, that would

1082
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: be big. That would be big. That's a significant departure

1083
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: from what he's been.

1084
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: What what did you say? Your pick was? Oh, you

1085
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 2: didn't say it, that's right, that's right.

1086
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: I because I don't know, dude, how why am I

1087
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: not allowed to say? I honestly, fucking don't you don't.

1088
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1089
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm not. This isn't okay, Bet, I'm not putting you

1090
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: to the flame. I just I generally want to get.

1091
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes I have a lean one way or the other.

1092
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: I really, I just I just don't know.

1093
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 2: The odds say that neither does Vegas to a large

1094
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: degree too, So we're gonna enjoy this one on Saturday. Hey,

1095
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: the co main event is buzzing just the same as

1096
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: Michael Van and Page moves up to middleweight for a

1097
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: one off here and it should be fun against a

1098
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: surging Charwer Bullet Maga metof the One Eyed Pirate, who

1099
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: has been making big news in this area of the

1100
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: world with big KOs. He's won four straight. As we

1101
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 2: look at the DraftKings odds at the moment minus excuse

1102
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 2: me one ninety eight is Maga metof plus one sixty

1103
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: four for MVP. So, Luke, how do you sort of

1104
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: frame this matchup? It's certainly a tough test at the

1105
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: right time to find out who Shara Bullet is. But

1106
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: what is this fight? In your eyes?

1107
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: This is another weird one. First of all, MVP at

1108
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: middleweight is not the is not a disaster, but it

1109
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: still feels a little bit weird for him to be

1110
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: up there, although I guess that's where he wants to

1111
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: spend the rest of his career.

1112
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: Oh, he said, one off, Luke. He's not going to

1113
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: spend the rest of his career.

1114
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: He's not, he said, one off Jesus. Okay, well, okay,

1115
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: all right, fine either way, it's just listen. Here's my

1116
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: hunch about this. And I mean it's generally sometimes the

1117
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: matchmakers they're like, Okay, we want X to fight y.

1118
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: Let's call up Ex's manager. Let's call up wise manager.

1119
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get it done. Oh. They agree, boom,

1120
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: we put it together a great fight. Okay. Sometimes it's

1121
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: we're going to go to this location, Seattle, San Francisco, Atlanta, whatever,

1122
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: we want to fill it with certain kinds of fighters

1123
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: from that region, or you know, so that they have

1124
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: some kind of geog graphical need. Another one is, hey,

1125
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: we owe guys fights. My hunch is that because they

1126
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: had to go back to Saudi Arabia, they probably knew

1127
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: that they had to put Charyl Bullet on there because

1128
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I guess he can't pass any eye inspections in North

1129
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: American commissions, right, which is seems legit Luke, which is

1130
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: weird because it's like open commission shopping. But who the

1131
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: fuck cares? I mean, you know, just hey guys, you know,

1132
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: and but pre meth, you could have gone fishing with Hitler.

1133
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the fucking.

1134
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: Who cares about if he has two working eyes? What

1135
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: is his beliefs on prime Hitler? Okay, that's what I wanted.

1136
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: Yes, So anyway, putting that aside, that means though that

1137
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: if we're going to go to Saudi Arabia, because they

1138
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: do have a contract with Riad Season that they have

1139
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: to provide not just you know, big names, but like

1140
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: he is gonna have to fight on that card or

1141
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: obviously they do buy cards, which also don't happen that often.

1142
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: So they were like, okay, we got to put them

1143
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: on this card. My feeling, and I mean this quite sincerely,

1144
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: is they probably called around and didn't have a lot

1145
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: of great options and somehow lucked their way into this

1146
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: one because they're well, he's also a striker, and it's

1147
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: not necessarily a middleweight guy, but he can fight at middleweight.

1148
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: And it's a weird style contrast because both are strikers,

1149
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: but one is kind of a muy high standard ground

1150
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: and bang. Another one is zip in and zip out,

1151
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: So what's interesting in that way? Like, let me be clear,

1152
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't have even the first problem with this fight.

1153
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: I actually think it's a really interesting fight. But it's

1154
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: a weird and unusual fight, both in terms of the

1155
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: weight class, how they match up, all of it. However,

1156
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if MVP gets a win,

1157
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: that's a big win over a name that is surging.

1158
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: By contrast, if you're Charyl Bullet, you get a win

1159
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: over you know, listen, is MVP the biggest name.

1160
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: Nobody is tricky.

1161
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: He is tricky, and if you can problem solve for

1162
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: a guy like that, you can do a lot with

1163
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: that as well. So to me, it's like it's a

1164
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel, BC, it's a little

1165
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: out of left field. It's not exactly like following the

1166
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: Petrosian win you were like, Okay, MVP, it's got to

1167
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: be that guy. But it works, It actually works, and

1168
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't mind it.

1169
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean to rock a rhyme, that's right on time, Luke,

1170
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: that's tricky, and I agree with you. This like the

1171
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: main event, it's kind of like, I don't really know

1172
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: what it's gonna look like. I mentioned Shara Bullets won

1173
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: four straight. What I meant to say is he's won

1174
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: all four of his UFC fights. He's fifteen to ero overall,

1175
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: but he's got like obvious holes in his game. He's

1176
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: a Daugistan guy who's not a Daugistan wrestler, but the

1177
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: explosive striking is there. Like we said in Monday Show,

1178
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if MVP's gonna snake charm this guy

1179
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: or if even he at this point in his career,

1180
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: is going to run into something big. But Luke, to

1181
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: try to deny Shara Bullets star turn I think would

1182
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: be ill advised. People love this guy, especially in that

1183
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: side of the world. He just bumped tips with Cristiano Ronaldo,

1184
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: which is not nothing Long Island. Luke, can we go

1185
00:57:43,000 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 2: to the the proof HEREO? Look at star value still

1186
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: seems to be ahead of his skill level. Will those

1187
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: two meet at some point?

1188
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: This is why this fight is kind of interesting. Obviously,

1189
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: you're not dealing with a wrestler who's going to be

1190
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: all over you, so it's one kind of challenge. But

1191
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: I actually feel like the guys, I mean, don't you

1192
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: feel like we see the guys who couldn't beat MVP,

1193
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: the guys who couldn't beat wonder Boy, they were always

1194
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: like the guys who were good, but you know they

1195
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: couldn't get ahead they were I mean, it was a

1196
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: real interesting demarcation line about who was able to get

1197
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: past those, whether through wrestling or striking or whatever the

1198
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: combination was, and then who wasn't. It felt like it's

1199
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: a great not gatekeeper, but a good litmus test for

1200
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: title worthy excellence. That's what it seems like to me.

1201
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: And maybe that's a little strong for MVP at the

1202
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: stage of his career, but still it's a really unique,

1203
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: tricky opponent. Can he problem solve for that in a

1204
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: way where he can get his hand raised? I actually

1205
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: think that's kind of interesting. And as you can see

1206
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: BC getting the rub from c R seven, you know,

1207
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Grant it's a whole Saudi thing because he

1208
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: plays in Saudi Arabia and Al Nasa and all that

1209
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But the one I'm trying to make

1210
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: is like they're building this dude up in all kinds

1211
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: of markets that are going to be paying attention to that. Big, big,

1212
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: big things going for this kid.

1213
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 2: Big things look, I do have a question though about

1214
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: the one eye thing. And you know we're gonna show

1215
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: in a second that he collaborate with biz paying and

1216
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: people are you know, obviously saying.

1217
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: Things two guys, two eyes.

1218
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: I mean so Bisping hid for years that he only

1219
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: had one working eye, and oh, by the way, smoking

1220
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: Joe Frazier had the same thing and hit it for

1221
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: years in his biggest fights from state commissions and essentially

1222
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: fought most I think it's not all of his Hall

1223
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: of Fame career with just the use of one eye.

1224
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: Is should this be okay in modern combat sports? I

1225
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: mean I don't want to like, you know, you know

1226
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: nit Nick Knew was a guy's name that fought for

1227
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: belachor wal Nick.

1228
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: He thought justin Gatche, well you.

1229
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: Know, had didn't have two working hands there and found

1230
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: a way. And it's like, you don't want to limit people,

1231
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: but like what should be the standards on I don't know,

1232
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: as saving somebody from themselves the right point. I mean,

1233
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: it didn't affect Joe Frasier or Michael Bispeing. They went

1234
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: on to win world titles and have Hall of Fame careers.

1235
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: How do you feel about just like knowingly letting this

1236
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: guy go out there like this.

1237
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: I have two responses. One, A doctor can't heal anything

1238
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: you don't tell them about. Right If I go to

1239
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: the doctor and you know, I'm spitting up blood and

1240
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: they ask me, how are you doing, and I say

1241
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm fine, they have no way of knowing if I'm

1242
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: spitting up blood. Obviously, there are some screens they can

1243
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: do to like see things, but if you just lie

1244
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: to them, they they're not very useful. You have to

1245
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: tell them the truth so that they know what the

1246
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: problem is. So I don't know how you get around that.

1247
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: Fighters are just gonna lie their way through medicals. I

1248
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to I don't know. I

1249
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone has ever suggested me, yes, you

1250
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: can be you can lose your license relying on those

1251
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: things you know, at least in theory, but they never

1252
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: pull that trigger. So I don't know. I don't know

1253
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: how to fix that. I don't know how to fix that.

1254
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: The second thing I'd say is I have a very

1255
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: funny story. I don't if I've ever told this one.

1256
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: I was when I when I was doing m A

1257
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: man sensored live on Spike TV. I did an episode

1258
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: with Nick Nowell and then Alistair overhim. Did I tell

1259
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: you what Alstair overream did to him?

1260
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: Oh? God, dude. All the stories behind the scenes of

1261
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: my entire career that I've heard of over him have

1262
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: been bad.

1263
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: Okay, this one is not that bad, but it was

1264
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: a little bit awkward in twenty twelve whatever that was.

1265
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: So Nick Nowle obviously has one full arm, and then

1266
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: he's got one arm where it's basically the hand is missing.

1267
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not quite right, but for all intensive purposes,

1268
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: it's missing. And the show is over and Alistair overreim

1269
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: stands up and looks at him and then grabs his

1270
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: arm like this and then looks at the stump. I'm

1271
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: not sure again, I don't I don't mean to be

1272
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: mean about it. I don't know how to say it,

1273
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: but like looks at it like this, like like like

1274
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: a like a dog at you know, like a dog

1275
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: judge at you know, the the Westminster Kennel Show, whatever

1276
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: the fuck it's called. And he's looking at it. He goes,

1277
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, so you can fight as a handicap.

1278
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: He just grabs the guy's arm and like looks at

1279
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: her like flight is a handicap.

1280
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: Let's show the bis pink stuff here.

1281
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, was coming in my eye.

1282
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: I think it was lou Ruckle the first five, but

1283
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: with the hold on, I gotta take this out there

1284
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: we go.

1285
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: I were brothers.

1286
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: Probably did you ever think about getting one of these?

1287
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: And the moment.

1288
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 6: I was told no, it doesn't matter.

1289
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: You look good.

1290
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you own it.

1291
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 6: That's I'm a pussy.

1292
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: Everyone was bullying me online things.

1293
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: They hurt my feelings, so.

1294
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: I tried to hide it. Is that hygienic to take

1295
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: your eyeball like that? I mean, really, it's so gross.

1296
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I like kudos to Bisping for being in

1297
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: like a gnarly warrior like Ronnie Lott style where he's like,

1298
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: oh I got a broken figure, just just cut it off.

1299
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: I want to get in on Sunday. Like, there's that

1300
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: half of you that respects that. There's that other half

1301
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: of you that's like, what kind of clown ass circus

1302
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: Sport are recovering moment?

1303
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Bisping is easily one of the

1304
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: most mentally tough fighters I've ever covered, and that says

1305
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: a lot. But at the same time, I also am like, dude,

1306
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: what the fuck I mean, these guys are literally blinding themselves.

1307
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: Charl Bullets came from before this. But but I guess

1308
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: it's a pre mma injury. But in the case of

1309
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: miss being he got it on the goddamn job. But again,

1310
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: it goes back to the same problem. If you lie

1311
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: to doctors, what are they supposed to do about that?

1312
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how, I genuinely, I mean, oh, again,

1313
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: you can take the license away, but like, no commission

1314
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: wants to do that, So like, I don't even know

1315
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: how you fix that problem. I don't don't think you

1316
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: can do your best?

1317
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Nick, Nowle is impressive, by the way, you know,

1318
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: shout out to that guy.

1319
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: I think he's from Connecticut.

1320
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 2: He is from Connecticut. I think he's got a gym

1321
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: down in the Milford area. I'm always had a lot

1322
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: of respect because because you know, you watch that guy

1323
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: in interviews and you're talking about the guy that's just driven.

1324
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't it Isn't it fucking hilarious that everyone at the

1325
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: time was like, this is going to be such a

1326
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: bad look that you know, somebody who is you know,

1327
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: disabled is going to be fighting on TV. I'm like, guys,

1328
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: they're praising Hitler out here now, like I mean.

1329
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: For the w S O F title, not.

1330
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: Yes on NBC. On NBC, yes he did and he

1331
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: got he got whopped, but like that happens just to

1332
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: get you whoops a lot of guys. But like you know,

1333
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: the sky is falling. It's like, guys, they're out here

1334
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: saying they want to go fishing with Hitler. I mean, like,

1335
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, what are we talk What are we talking

1336
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: about here? All right?

1337
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? Who wins m v

1338
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: P versus Sharer Bullet. MVP can, like I said, snake

1339
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: charm you and disarm you. But there's also a lot

1340
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: of weird MVP where there's not a lot of striking

1341
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: because of the constant fainting and threat he puts on.

1342
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: What type of fight will this one be?

1343
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna look like an MVP fight for

1344
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: the most part. He's going to be the one defining

1345
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 1: the range for the most part, darting in. I tend

1346
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: to think that Bullet's gonna try and catch him coming in.

1347
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: You know, Petrosian kind of stood right in front of him,

1348
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: is a little bit easier to hit. He's a more stable,

1349
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: visible target. That's just not what you get with MVP.

1350
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: I didn't make a pick in the main event because

1351
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. Again, I could be wrong as shit.

1352
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a flyer on MVP here BC wow,

1353
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: I think, don't get me wrong. I actually feel like

1354
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: charl Bullets got a pretty nice upside and this is

1355
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: a weird fight, but it's a three rounder. If it

1356
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: was a five rounder, I might feel a little bit different.

1357
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: But I feel like he's gonna try and catch MVP

1358
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: coming in and he's gonna get sniped for it. That's

1359
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, your guess is as good as.

1360
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: Much five rounder. I'm taking MVP, but I've got more

1361
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: of the feeling it's gonna be a little bit of

1362
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 2: a weird fight. There's not going to be a lot

1363
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: of high volume, but that the judges will favor the

1364
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: power shots out of Maga met Off and we might

1365
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: get a little bit of a disputed decision in which

1366
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: he survives in advance but doesn't necessarily pass the test.

1367
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: So I know, I basically predicted that for both fights

1368
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: in the Cohen Maine and Comaine, but I think that's

1369
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 2: where we're going. You see how close those odds are

1370
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 2: along on Look, can you split the difference here? Where

1371
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: are you leaning on this very well matched comine event.

1372
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 6: I'm going Michael Venam Page took him as a dog

1373
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 6: plus one seventy. I think you're right, though, BC. I

1374
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 6: do think it's going to be a disputed decision. I'm

1375
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 6: just hoping MVP can squeak it out. He did win

1376
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 6: a round on all three judges scorecards against Ian Gary,

1377
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 6: which that's aged like a fine wine. That's a great

1378
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 6: person to win one round again, so I feel like

1379
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 6: you could win two against Charbullet.

1380
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 7: Charbullet also never shot for a takedown in his MMA career, So.

1381
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, why start now?

1382
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 7: Right exactly?

1383
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed right there, LT. Are you feeling the only

1384
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: other good fight on this card, Pavlovitch against Gay or

1385
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: Zeno rosen Strike at heavyweight? Are you feeling this at all?

1386
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: Do you have feelings?

1387
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: I have some feelings. I gotta say I'm not as

1388
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: excited for that one, although that's, you know, good to

1389
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: get him back on track. You look pretty good on

1390
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: the scales today. He always does, but he you know,

1391
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: we got back to it. It's an important fight for

1392
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: him to get a win, obviously, given how things have

1393
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: gone three.

1394
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: Twenty favorite is Serge coming off of two consecutive defeats, Yes.

1395
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: Exactly, so you could probably pick the Frezion fight against

1396
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: Mike Davis. I actually think Mike Davis is a pretty

1397
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: good talented guy. He's been not as active as I

1398
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: would hope, but he is quite talented. But the fight

1399
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: I care a little bit more about it. You got

1400
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: Jasmin Jazzdivissias taken on my Rabueno Silva. That will be

1401
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: two first two UFC female fighters fighting in Saudi Arabia.

1402
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: Did you see their kids? They're wearing more clothes than normal.

1403
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're wearing like a almost like a rash

1404
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: guard essentially, which I I don't prefer. But whatever, I

1405
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's the end of the world. It's not

1406
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: only worth, you know, crying about too much. There was

1407
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: another fight on here that I really wanted to talk

1408
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: about in just a second. The Terrence McKinney one could

1409
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: be fun for as long as it lasts against Demir Hadzovich,

1410
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: but you know that's probably not built for you know,

1411
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: maximum length. Yeah, no, I guess that's it. I thought

1412
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: that there was not no you know what, the Muhammad

1413
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: Nimov fight. Naimov seems like he's reasonably interesting. I'd be

1414
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: curious about that, but it's not a strong It's what

1415
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean. People are like, oh, three twelve is worse,

1416
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like.

1417
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: They're both kind of nubs from you know, in terms

1418
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: of the bottom two thirds of it. Long on on, Luke,

1419
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: you have any undercard bangers or best bets you want

1420
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: to share with us because you get down with the

1421
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 2: early prelimbs.

1422
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: In the UK. Yeah.

1423
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 6: By the way, I'm doing a full card watch along

1424
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 6: tomorrow at nine am, so join me for that. Oh

1425
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 6: boyfriend of the Year week and bag she's away for

1426
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 6: the weekend for business.

1427
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1428
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 7: It's actually that's the reason I'm doing the full card.

1429
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: Look, thank you.

1430
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 7: I think Luke nailed it on the head.

1431
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 6: Jasmine versus Bueno Silva, I'm actually pretty excited about. Do

1432
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 6: you think Bueno Silva with the spread plus three and

1433
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 6: a half at minus one forty is a solid bet there?

1434
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 7: She just needs to win one round on every judge's scorecard.

1435
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 6: Terrence McKinney fight should be fun as hell for as

1436
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 6: long as it lasts like you said Terrence by finish.

1437
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 6: Either way, I would say take him by Ko straight

1438
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 6: up or by Subs straight up.

1439
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 7: They're both plus money.

1440
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: Right now, someone's getting finished in that one.

1441
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 6: Exactly, and it's probably Demir Hadzevik hasn't won a fight

1442
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 6: in almost four years. Uh, we want to talk Pavlovich, Jarzino, Rosenstrike.

1443
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 6: I'm actually riding with Biggie Boy here, got him at

1444
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 6: plus two sixty.

1445
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 7: I told BC this on Monday and he was like, no,

1446
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 7: don't take him, no, because you.

1447
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: Got to ask yourself, Like, there's a Mendoza line at heavyweight.

1448
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: It's called the tay Burra speedback line. Is Pavlovich above

1449
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: or below if he's below rosen Strike wins. I think

1450
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,520
Speaker 2: he's he's above.

1451
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 6: He might be below, dude, his best wins are like

1452
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 6: fucking tied to a Vasa and Derek Lewis. You know,

1453
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 6: it's like maybe Curtis blades too. Either way, I do

1454
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 6: feel like Jarzino, he only loses to the best of

1455
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,440
Speaker 6: the best. He's lost to like top five guys, Pavlovich

1456
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 6: number six, so maybe he could get it done.

1457
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 7: Ride with him, thank you.

1458
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: See. Before we do topic three, I would like to

1459
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: call an audible here. Yeah, let me ask you the

1460
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: questions for topic three, since you are calling the fights,

1461
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 1: should be topic four. Topic four. Excuse me, I apologize

1462
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: Topic four. Since you are calling the fights and you

1463
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: are in Las Vegas, would you be okay with that?

1464
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1465
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 1: Let's go, all right, all right, topic number excuse me,

1466
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: Let's do it one more time, four, ladies and gentlemen,

1467
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 1: Topic number four. It is finally here, David Benavidez versus

1468
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: David Morrell, Battle of the Davids BC. I'm gonna say

1469
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: it one more time for folks who are just joining us.

1470
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: BC will be on the pay per view call. It's

1471
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: a PBC pay per view, along with Maro Ronalo and

1472
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: Abner Mars. Of course will be some other ones floating around,

1473
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: but those would be the three main guys on commentary.

1474
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: So we're all super happy for BC here in the

1475
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: mk BC. This fight fucking bangs. So let's go piece

1476
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: by piece on this one if we can. And I

1477
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: know MMA fans might be like, all their attention is

1478
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: focused on UFC, said Arabia, which I understand, no problem,

1479
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: but they're not competing with each other. Saudi Arabia is

1480
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: going to be in the afternoon and then the PBC

1481
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: fight will be at night, so you don't even have

1482
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: to like decide which one you want to watch. You

1483
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: can take in both BC. Let's set this up if

1484
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: we can. Who are to the casual fan. David Benavitez

1485
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: and David Morrell Explain who they are, and then let's

1486
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: talk about their individual styles.

1487
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: Well, they're the two best opponents available for unified super

1488
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: middleweight champion Canelo Alvarez, who didn't want to fight either

1489
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: of them, which is a big reason why these two

1490
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 2: both moved up to one seventy five and basically have said,

1491
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: f off Canelo, We're going to do our own thing. Well,

1492
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: look to get in line to do your own thing

1493
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: at one seventy five. You're certainly looking to face the

1494
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: winner of that undisputed title rematch February twenty second, when

1495
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: better Bevan Bvall meet a second time. Those are the

1496
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 2: stakes involved in this one. The idea that David Benavitez

1497
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: and David Morrell looked around and said we're done with

1498
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: sixty eight, We're done chasing Canelo. Let's go to the

1499
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: top here. But the best fight to make to get it,

1500
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: to get advancement to the top, would be against each other.

1501
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: So those are the stakes that the winner will be

1502
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: the mandatory opponent for the undisputed title. Huge business. But

1503
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: like we said already on paper, this is already it

1504
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 2: can't miss mussy affair one of the best fights you

1505
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: can make in boxing. Two unbeaten fighters in at the

1506
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: peak of their physical primes squaring off against one another.

1507
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: But when you add in the disrespect, the trash talk

1508
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,959
Speaker 2: between each other, throwing belts, what we saw at Thursday's

1509
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: press conference, I'm not just jumping on the pro wrestling.

1510
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they really hate each other. Thing That

1511
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: is going to be an injection into this fight of

1512
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: real intensity because these are two absolutely hungry fighters who,

1513
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: despite unbeaten records, and despite especially Benavidez, having already been

1514
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 2: in some big fights, this is the toughest test of

1515
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: their respective careers. When they look across from each other,

1516
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: there is no question about it. David Benavidez is the

1517
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 2: Mexican monster. He fights like as mean as anyone in

1518
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: this era. He walks you down over the second half

1519
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 2: of fights, does things that normally we would say not

1520
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: to do, squares up, stands behind his high guard, gets

1521
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 2: right in your face, but bears down with pressure, smart combinations,

1522
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: big time power, and ultimately, although kayleb Plant was able

1523
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 2: to survive the distance just barely, essentially puts you in

1524
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: a situation where we find out how tough you really are,

1525
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: how bad do you want to be there? But what

1526
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 2: is the kryptonite to that? Potentially? I think it's what

1527
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: David Morrel brings to the table. A Southpaul from Cuba

1528
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: who moved to Minneapolis and right from the start when

1529
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: he turned pro, matched himself, tought for a secondary world

1530
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: title in his third profight, has wanted huge smoke, but

1531
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: has had trouble getting those opponents into the ring. So

1532
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: it's the idea of short of better bv and Bevall

1533
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: and Canelo in that highest level, what is the type

1534
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: of style that could give potentially could outclass or give

1535
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: Benevite's issues. I really think it's what Morell brings to

1536
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: the table. And when you see the intensity and you

1537
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: see the hunger, and both of them come out of

1538
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 2: all of these press events, it's only ratching it up

1539
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: that old school feel that we're going to see a

1540
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: true grudge fight on Saturday, but one with immense stakes,

1541
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: one in which both are going to put their unbeaten

1542
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 2: records on the line, and one in which both Luke

1543
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: and my opinion are going to leave a piece of

1544
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: themselves in that ring in order to get past this

1545
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: and get to that next level. That's what we're dealing

1546
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: with on Saturday. This is as good of a fight

1547
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: as you can make in boxing. I know you could say, oh,

1548
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 2: you're shilling for this. I would have been saying that

1549
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: same thing entering this fight no matter what, and this

1550
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: fight week has only escalated that.

1551
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: BC. Give me who you believe to be each of

1552
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: their best wins? Who is Morel's best win? What is

1553
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 1: Benevitez his best wins?

1554
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: I think at Betavidez it's not one win in particular,

1555
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: but really the stretch that he's on. He's beaten four

1556
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: consecutive former champions and looked great doing so, right David Lemieu,

1557
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: who maybe was past his best, but it was Caleb

1558
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 2: Plan on pay per view, it was unbeaten Demetrius Andred

1559
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: who people had avoided for years on pay per view,

1560
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: in which Benavidez took the best that Andreid had and

1561
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 2: then essentially broke him and stopped him midway through that fight,

1562
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: and then luke even though it wasn't a spectacular performance.

1563
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: Let's not discount what Benavidez did last year in his

1564
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: light heavyweight debut against former champion Alexander Vodsik, who is

1565
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 2: as elite as you can get from a skills standpoint,

1566
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: of course, was in the second chapter of his career.

1567
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 2: But even though Benavidez went in there with injuries to

1568
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: both hands, still got the job done, still pulled it off.

1569
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: So I don't necessarily look at one individual effort unless

1570
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: you want me to, and I can put point what

1571
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: he did against Andreid because there is there has been

1572
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: this belief along the way, even though it's a long

1573
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: time ago since Benavidez twice lost world titles at one

1574
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: sixty eight not in the ring, but failed recreational drug test,

1575
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: missweight during the pandemic in the ring, though no one's

1576
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: been able to stop him. Along the way, there were

1577
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 2: those same rhetoric of we've seen him deal with weight

1578
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: issues in the past, can he go hard for twelve rounds?

1579
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: Are his skills really of this ilk? And even though

1580
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 2: he's been destructive in taking out people and proving them wrong,

1581
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: which really, your answer probably makes Andreid the most impressive

1582
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: victory in that regard. You're still seeing that rhetoric heading

1583
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: into this fight because of how skilled Morell is, and

1584
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: then obviously because Morel's been poking the bear and saying, oh,

1585
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: you're just RoboCop out there. So the run that Benavidez

1586
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: is on allows him to bring into this fight one

1587
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: major advantage, and that's experience. Experience at the highest level,

1588
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: experience with a myriad of styles at this level. Morell

1589
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: it hasn't really been about one fight either, because he

1590
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: just hasn't been able to secure those huge fights. Yes,

1591
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: he didn't look overly spectacular in his light heavyweight debut

1592
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: as well. He fought a former title contender in hot

1593
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 2: Rod co Logic who really gave him a tough test,

1594
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 2: but Morell was able to pass that test. But Luke,

1595
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 2: when you watch the totality of the Morel highlight real

1596
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 2: what you do see is someone who is explosive, who

1597
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: is tricky, who from that south past stance, is quick

1598
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: with both his feet and his hands, can bring out

1599
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 2: elite elite head movement and defense at any point. So really,

1600
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: in this case, I really feel like they hold the

1601
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 2: exact kryptonite of what could give the other ones problems,

1602
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: which makes this matchup so perfect. But it's not necessarily

1603
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: about what's that one big win that lets you know

1604
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: they're going to win this because I truly believe, like

1605
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 2: I said, this is the toughest test either one will

1606
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,919
Speaker 2: have faced yet as a professional.

1607
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at some of this assets we

1608
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: have produced here BC. I want to talk about the

1609
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: fight in just a second, but I also want to

1610
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: talk about the mindset. First things First, Long Island Luke

1611
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: show the face off from yesterday at the press conference.

1612
01:17:47,720 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: If you can, you were talking about you seen anything

1613
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: to the idea about again we're just kind of doing

1614
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: armchair psychology, but I don't know. I do detect a

1615
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: difference on fight week for morell I do.

1616
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: What you have to figure out is this just his personality?

1617
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: He is happy, go lucky. We've seen him and I

1618
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 2: thought was a really good two episode series Gloves Off

1619
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: that PBC put out on YouTube to preview this fight.

1620
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: We saw him dancing in the ring, talking trash, coming

1621
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: out of his shell. More you have to ask yourself,

1622
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: does now that he's sort of slowing down that tough

1623
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: talk during fight week. Is that because he's scared of

1624
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: the moment, you know? Or is it something deeper, Luke?

1625
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: I do wonder here if Team Morell has been purposely

1626
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,520
Speaker 2: and calculatingly trying to get in the head of Benavidez,

1627
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: which is definitely a beware of what you ask for

1628
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 2: type of scenario. Luke, You've heard me for years talking

1629
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: about being on basketball course. Maybe it's the reason why

1630
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: I finally retired this year from old guy rec basketball

1631
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: because I was sick of making poor relationships in my

1632
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: own town with other prominent local people because I know

1633
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 2: how to press those buttons on the court. But whether

1634
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: you're talking about the basketball court or the combat sports

1635
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: fighting circle, there's a small percentage of people who can

1636
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: fight emotional and fight better because of those emotions. I

1637
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: would name David Benavitez as one those. We watched that

1638
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: absolutely incredible build in March of twenty three to that

1639
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: Caleb Plant pay per view. With showtime, we got to

1640
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 2: work on a lot of those pre fight press conferences

1641
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: and weigh ins and really go along with that, and

1642
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: what we saw on fight night was if you jack

1643
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: up David Benavitez, his temperature and his motor. You're gonna

1644
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: get what you asked for. This is a guy who

1645
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: does fight better with emotions. But Luke, I have to say,

1646
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 2: at that press conference yesterday, I was shocked to see

1647
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: Louis to Cubas Senior go to the microphone and bait

1648
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: bait Benavidez the way that he did. And I know

1649
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,480
Speaker 2: that there was a little back and forth and benavite

1650
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: Is accused of Cubis of stealing money from Morel basically,

1651
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: and it escalated from there. But it seemed to be

1652
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 2: a calculated effort on Team Morell to get Benavitez fired

1653
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: up and maybe off of his game. Look, the big

1654
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: question got to ask yourself is should you be aware

1655
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: of what you're asking for? Because in the second half

1656
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 2: of fights, when Benavitez figures you out, turns up, that pressure,

1657
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 2: brings the volume punching in starts walking you down. Nobody

1658
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: in this sport fights meaner and is more effective at

1659
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: breaking you down than that. Is that what they want

1660
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: out of Benevedez or are they hoping that it lures

1661
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: him into a type of sloppy, extra emotional fight where

1662
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 2: he dumps his gas tank. Maybe they think that'll play

1663
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 2: into the hands of Morel. But I think the biggest

1664
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 2: question entering this fight for either man surrounds Morell and

1665
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 2: the idea that he's looked spectacular. We know how skilled

1666
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 2: he is. Does he have the chin, does he have

1667
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,520
Speaker 2: the backbone, and if needed, does he have the footwork

1668
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: to avoid the monster in the second half of this

1669
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: fight when it matters most in order to try to

1670
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: do what we think will be the only way for

1671
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 2: him to win, to win seven of those twelve rounds. Obviously,

1672
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 2: Morel's talking a different game. He's talking about knockouts in there.

1673
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 2: But Luke, I'm wondering that are they purposely trying to

1674
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 2: wind this dude up, because if you pulp the monster,

1675
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: you will get the monster on Saturday Night.

1676
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: I think that they are trying to make a show

1677
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: of force, right, They're trying to like, oh, we're not

1678
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: going to back down, We're not going to give into

1679
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: his bullying tactics. And I think for that, for that

1680
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: particular face off, they want to be like we're undisturbed,

1681
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: We're unbothered, which maybe in fact could be the case.

1682
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: But at the same time, uh, I don't know how

1683
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 1: genuine it is. And in fact, there's we have a

1684
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: clip here long I look play the clip of David

1685
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: Benevidez kind of reacting to this change in attitude during

1686
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 1: fight week from David Morrell.

1687
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 5: Name so, now when I took the fight from him,

1688
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 5: I mean when I when I told him I want

1689
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 5: to make this fight. They're put in a position where

1690
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 5: they can't say no. But now that the time is here,

1691
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 5: they're looking at him scared. He's not saying that I

1692
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 5: could tone his eyes and I could.

1693
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: I could feel somebody's here and I filled one hundred

1694
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: percent with David Morrell. He's scared of David. David he pressed.

1695
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: He was, yeah, because they're all nervous.

1696
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 3: They're all nervous.

1697
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 5: He's mad because I exposed his as he's taking more

1698
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 5: money from David Morrel than David Morrell's making himselves.

1699
01:22:59,240 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 7: War.

1700
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: It's says, if your opponent has a temper, irritate him.

1701
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: Uh do you think though, that maybe that's what he's

1702
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 2: trying to do.

1703
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 5: Bro At the end of the day, like, I'm cool

1704
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 5: with you, but every time you do interviews with me,

1705
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 5: you're kind of like throwing like indirections and shit like

1706
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 5: if that's what it's been like with you.

1707
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 7: Like what he's so, is that you that's what you

1708
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 7: think he's doing?

1709
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, okay, well then go ask him about.

1710
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: His art of board and everything you think and yeah, okay, well.

1711
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 5: Then, but at the end of the day, we're so

1712
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 5: many fights, right would I would you rather me be

1713
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 5: up here like.

1714
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: Alwa's a good fight?

1715
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 2: No?

1716
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 1: No? Are you the kind of guy where it gets

1717
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: he helps you?

1718
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 3: Yes?

1719
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 5: Okay, yes, yes, I'm trying to sell the fight because

1720
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 5: I'm trying to sell pay per views. I'm trying to

1721
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 5: have people interested in this because if I'm not saying nothing,

1722
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 5: this guy's not gonna say that. At the end of

1723
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 5: the day, people are paying hard money for this fight.

1724
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 5: They want to see something, so let's give them what

1725
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 5: they want to see.

1726
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 2: Damn, I didn't seen that he calling Sean's to tell out.

1727
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Sewing a lot, but I put that

1728
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: in there to show you that David Benavidez is also

1729
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: kind of on edge a little bit too. Is there's

1730
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 1: something to be said for maybe he's not managing that

1731
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: well enough BC.

1732
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, like I mentioned he managed a

1733
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: great against Caleb Plant when they were needed to be

1734
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: separated every time they were close to each other. Look,

1735
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: do we have the video of what Benevida said when

1736
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: he went up to the dais at the press conference,

1737
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: because I felt like he sent a message to Morrell.

1738
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I don't have that one.

1739
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.

1740
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: It's in the room. We play it, then play it.

1741
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 5: First of all, I want to thank God for everybody

1742
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 5: for allowing me to be here. You know, I'm really happy.

1743
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 5: I want to thank my wife. I want to thank

1744
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 5: my father, jose Ban Avidas, my brother, jose Been Avidas Junior, Samson, Lukewitz,

1745
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 5: David Garcia, Al Hayman, Luisa Kuglas Junior.

1746
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: And what can I say?

1747
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 3: Man, We're finally here.

1748
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for this moment.

1749
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 5: You know, I've been I've been getting ready extremely hard

1750
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 5: for this moment.

1751
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 7: I've trained extremely hard.

1752
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: And now we're ready.

1753
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 6: You know.

1754
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 5: Now we're coming on energy, not like this fucking pussy

1755
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 5: right here. Peace and love was all that fucking shit

1756
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 5: that you were talking.

1757
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: About back then.

1758
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 5: Looking now, this guy's nervous. Won't beat the fuck out

1759
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 5: of you, and I hope you won't have no fucking

1760
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 5: excuses because you look scared as fuck right now. To

1761
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 5: be honestly, you can smile, you do all you fuck

1762
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,839
Speaker 5: you want, but watch when you seven savring this Saturday.

1763
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 5: That's in monsters world, and you see exactly what the

1764
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 5: fuck them made them?

1765
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, come on, dude, that was a

1766
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 2: message that have your fun and games. Throw the belt

1767
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: at me in Miami. Talk your ish, but in the

1768
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: ring you're gonna get the monster you're asking for it. Luke,

1769
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 2: I don't. There's certain people you realize right from the start.

1770
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 2: Do not poke that Bear Habib's one of them.

1771
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: Connor found out one of them. Bear Benavetez is one

1772
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: of them. Like the that. This is so interesting, Okay,

1773
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: so BC, moving this forward here just a little bit.

1774
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: We kind of have a sense of how the fight's

1775
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna go. Are there any X factors we haven't discussed

1776
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: that you think could define how this fight ends up?

1777
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: First and foremost, why is this fight? You know it

1778
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 2: started off? As we know how wide boxing odds are

1779
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 2: for big fights, even compared to MMA, it doesn't always

1780
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 2: tell you the full tale. This has been a pick

1781
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: them from the beginning, more or less with Benavitez as

1782
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 2: a slight favorite, which is justified, of course, because of

1783
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: him having more experience at this highest level. And I

1784
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 2: did want to mention, which we mentioned off the top

1785
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: of the show, that the line changed a lot over

1786
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: twenty four hours since those hijinks we just showed in.

1787
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: Benavitez is now up to a minus two thirty favorite

1788
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: on DraftKings. But the reason why this fight is so

1789
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 2: close on paper because this is by far them, in

1790
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: my opinion, the most difficult opponent Benavidez will have faced.

1791
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: Because Morell's got that footwork, because he's got that flashiness,

1792
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 2: because he throws explosive punches that you don't necessarily see coming.

1793
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 2: He's a master of uppercuts from from distance or from

1794
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: awkward angles. He throws combinations, he does a lot of

1795
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 2: things very very well. So if there is a fighter

1796
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 2: in the second half that might be able to prevent

1797
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: ben Avetez from cornering him and heating up that kitchen

1798
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: into where you're basically like, do I have the toughness

1799
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 2: to go the distance here? It might be Morell, and

1800
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 2: that's what we're banking on. I think from the standpoint

1801
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: of will this be a competitive fight that could go

1802
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: either way. Yes, Morell's got speed, Yes he's got power,

1803
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: But to me, it's that footwork. It's that Cuban amateur

1804
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 2: background that if you're if the monster's gonna chase you,

1805
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: you gotta make him chase. But Luke, you can't run

1806
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: from the monster all fight, whether it's early or whether

1807
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: it's mid or whether it's late. Morel's got to sit

1808
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 2: down and get his respect. To me, Even though I

1809
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: said the biggest question is the second half of the fight,

1810
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: can Morell stay in that kitchen just the same? I

1811
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: have to see something in the first half of this

1812
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 2: fight where Morell is able to show Benavidez that he

1813
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: has the power to gain back respect. All the biggest

1814
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 2: wins in Benavitez's career, his opponents have been unable to

1815
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 2: do that. Caleb Plant could could box you know him

1816
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,879
Speaker 2: and make that somewhat of a competitive fight for windows.

1817
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: Andreid had a couple rounds in a row where he

1818
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 2: was establishing the things he does well. But once Benavidez

1819
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 2: makes that adjustment, if you don't have the fire power

1820
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: to give him pause, it's it's either going to be

1821
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: a long night for you or you're gonna ask out

1822
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: of it like Andreid's corner did when Benavidez started piling

1823
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,839
Speaker 2: on power shots. So, Luke, I want to see, obviously

1824
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: if Morell has the type of footwork and daring nature

1825
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 2: and pure skills not to fall into that trap. But

1826
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 2: I also really need to see that he can show

1827
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 2: Benavidez that he's of the same level power shot wise,

1828
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: and that if this becomes a war, which they've both

1829
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 2: said absolutely will heck. Tom Brown, the promoter of TGB,

1830
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 2: came out on the microphone yesterday and basically said, straight up,

1831
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna see a rematch in this fight. You're probably

1832
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: gonna see a trilogy because this is so weavingly matched

1833
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: and both of these guys are prepared to leave a

1834
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: chunk of themselves in the ring. I think that's all true,

1835
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: But Luke, let me spin it back on you. From

1836
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: what you've seen out of Morell, which is only a

1837
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: certain level of competition, although he's been great and spectacular,

1838
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 2: can he do that against somebody like Benavidez. That's what

1839
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: we have to find out.

1840
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: I think, like Caleb, it's like, do you think he's

1841
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: a stronger version of what Caleb Plant did when they fought,

1842
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: and on some level I think he might be BC.

1843
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: But at the end Kayleb Plant was hanging on for

1844
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: survival in that one, and I think maybe Morrell might

1845
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: get like that, but it'll be a little bit closer.

1846
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: Like I can very much imagine as being a closer

1847
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: fight than the Plant fight, But at the same time,

1848
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: I kind of see it as inevitable in this. I mean,

1849
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: the thing is is like Morell is a dynamic puncher,

1850
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: a dynamic boxer. I think he's gonna land on David Benavidez,

1851
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: who comes at you square and they keep remember he

1852
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: was making fun of him, calling him RoboCop. Oh yeah, fine,

1853
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna land on him early, but dude, he eventually

1854
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: makes adjustments over the top of that, and once he

1855
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: moves downhill, Dude, he doesn't fucking stop.

1856
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 2: Kim Morrell hurt him. I mean, you know, Benavie has

1857
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: been dropped before against Ronald Gavriel on their title fight.

1858
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Late in that fight, it's not impossible he squares up.

1859
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 2: Even though his defense is responsible.

1860
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: His back also makes him a little bit easier to

1861
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: knock off. So in that sense, I think he can

1862
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: be knocked down, and that's important for scoring. I'm less

1863
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: convinced he can be actually hurt, you know what I mean.

1864
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean obviously boxing hurts, like you know you're gonna

1865
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: get lumped up. It's not what I mean, but I mean,

1866
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: like deterred from doing what he wants because the pain

1867
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 1: is too severe every time he tries. I don't I

1868
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: don't buy that. And if that's not really in the equation,

1869
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: that's a tough fight to win. That's really you got

1870
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: to be able to dance to beat a guy like that,

1871
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: you know.

1872
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 2: I want to see how much body shots are going

1873
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: to play into this from either guy. Is Beneda is

1874
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: gonna use going to the body early to slow Morel down,

1875
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 2: or could Morel turn the table on him and go

1876
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: to the body against the bully? I mean, Luke, is

1877
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 2: there any fighter in boxing today who fights meaner and

1878
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 2: more like a bully than Benevitez? I don't think there

1879
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: is better. I guess that's a great call. And by

1880
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 2: the way, if if Benavidez wins this fight and better

1881
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 2: Beev wins the rematch with Bevall, we could be seeing

1882
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 2: that for all I know.

1883
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: Last question on this fight before we move on BC

1884
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: Canelo looks like he's gonna resign with PBC. To what

1885
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: extent is that even relevant at this point and what

1886
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 1: so there might be one argument to be like, oh,

1887
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,480
Speaker 1: if he's gonna stay with PBC, and you know Benavitez

1888
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: and morel are especially PBC guys, it's gonna make the

1889
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: fight I got here to make. But at the same time,

1890
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: there's still the Crawford stuff hanging out there. I don't

1891
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't really believe Canelo wants to fight either of

1892
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: these guys, but we don't know that. I don't know that.

1893
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: What do you make of him resigning with PBC and

1894
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: to what extent that has any implications for well.

1895
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 2: First of all, Benaviez was asked about this this week

1896
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 2: and he basically said, I'm never fighting at one sixty

1897
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: eight again. I've moved on. So if Canelo is gonna

1898
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 2: suddenly try to come back and be like, Okay, I'm

1899
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 2: ready to fight you now, but it's got to be

1900
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 2: at one sixty eight, benavite says.

1901
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: No.

1902
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: We also know that it looks like Canelo is headed

1903
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 2: toward to May fight in Las Vegas, maybe against William Skull,

1904
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,719
Speaker 2: who has the fourth super Midway title that was stripped

1905
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 2: from Canelo, or maybe against I'm beating Christian mobility, which

1906
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 2: would certainly be a better option. And then of course

1907
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: you've got those rumors and you see Turkey talking to

1908
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 2: both of Turkey paying for Crawford versus Canelo in the fall.

1909
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: But the whole idea is here, is Canelo just waiting

1910
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 2: for Benavidez and Morel to fight each other and take

1911
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 2: a bit out of each other and then see what

1912
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 2: happens of the winner potentially facing the winner of better

1913
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 2: b of Bevall. That's interesting to think, Luke, if Canelo

1914
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 2: is going to join this party and fight one of

1915
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: these guys, meaning Benevitez and Morrell, it's trending toward the

1916
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 2: idea that it's going to have to come at one

1917
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 2: seventy five. Do you think Canelo is headed toward one

1918
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 2: seventy five after this calendar year? I think that's the

1919
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 2: most important question of the relevance of where this is

1920
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 2: going to go. No, No, he still wants Bevall rematt

1921
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 2: So if bev All beats better beev.

1922
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 1: Okay, so that that okay, all right, fine with that

1923
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 1: exception in mind. In general, No, in general. No, I don't.

1924
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 1: I don't. He's talking about m Billy and fucking who's

1925
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: the other guy He's talking about William Skull Skull. I mean,

1926
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing? Bro? Yeah? All right,

1927
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: that's it. Back to you for topic number five.

1928
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 2: Oh well quickly though.

1929
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: Look, yes, the main the main one of my saying

1930
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: it's a very good undercard.

1931
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 2: I have to say that, you know. I mean, like

1932
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: the most lopsided fight is the opener on terms of betting.

1933
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: When Jesus Ramos Junior looks to bounce back from that

1934
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 2: Ericson Lubin disputed decision loss against Jason Rosario. Luke wu Banano,

1935
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 2: the former unified champion at one fifty four, who's been

1936
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 2: you know, knocked out a handful of times at the

1937
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: highest level. But did you see the story that has

1938
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 2: come out this week where Rosario is basically admitting that

1939
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 2: those subsequent knockouts that happened right the body shot knockout

1940
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 2: when he lost his title to Charlow, then he get

1941
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 2: knocked out by Lubin couple fights later, got knocked out

1942
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 2: by Brian Mendoza. He's now saying that he was partying

1943
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 2: like crazy was on the verge of suicide during that

1944
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 2: entire daily during that entire stretch, and has now found

1945
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 2: an epiphany at age twenty eight. He basically claims that

1946
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 2: Bob Santos the trainer, saved his life by agreeing to

1947
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 2: join with him. And now we have Rosario at the

1948
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 2: press conference yesterday predicting, guaranteeing that he will shake up

1949
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 2: the boxing world and knock out Ramos. And by the way,

1950
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 2: Ramos said, I'm changing my style and I'm going to

1951
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 2: come out there and go for the knockout myself. Don't

1952
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 2: sleep on that one. Don't sleep on the Pitbull Cruise

1953
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: card against that Tijuana badass on hell Fieriro after they

1954
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: needed to be separated after that long stare down. But

1955
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:06,839
Speaker 2: I think the thing we need to touch on, obviously

1956
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: is that code main event, the rematch of the twenty

1957
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 2: nineteen Fight of the Year or twenty twenty one Fight

1958
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 2: of the Year, when Steven Fulton Junior edged Brandon Figueroa

1959
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 2: to unify titles at one twenty two flip the coin

1960
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 2: decision it went to Fulton. Things have changed since then.

1961
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 2: Figure is three to zero since moving up to featherweight,

1962
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 2: including a knockout of the same man in Carlos Pastro,

1963
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 2: who Fulton struggled to be in his featherweight debut last

1964
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 2: time out. He had that knockout loss to. In a way,

1965
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: boxing Twitter seems like they're ready to retire the thirty

1966
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 2: one year old Fulton. Luke, Where where is this fight

1967
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 2: in your eyes? You know, in terms of your pulse check?

1968
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 2: Is it going to be a redo of that great

1969
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,839
Speaker 2: fight the first time around? Or are the suspicion surrounding

1970
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 2: Fulton enough to lead you to believe he could be

1971
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: trending in the wrong direction.

1972
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might be trending in the wrong direction. I

1973
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, the speculation seems a little weird.

1974
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. Fulton was riding high until he

1975
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 1: fights in a way, in a way we've all seen it,

1976
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,600
Speaker 1: blasted him the fuck into outer space. But okay, in

1977
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: a way, is one of the very best guys, if

1978
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: not the best guy in the sport, no harm, no value,

1979
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: went and to fight him on his territory. It didn't

1980
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: go all right, fine, but then in that rebound fight BC,

1981
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you who he fought. It was

1982
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:12,959
Speaker 1: on the prelim card.

1983
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 2: Of Castro, the same guy figaro knocked out.

1984
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and Castro gave him the business. Now, I

1985
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: think Fulton obviously was able to get his hand raised

1986
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 1: in the end, but that was a skin of your

1987
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: teeth kind of a win over a guy he was

1988
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: widely expected to walk over. The first fight with Figaroa

1989
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: was excellent and Fulton was just completely dialed in and

1990
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,919
Speaker 1: needed to be to like last against the torrential downpour

1991
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: of Figueroa. But I have to tell you, BC, I

1992
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: feel differently. I think Figaroa might take it. Something does

1993
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: feel off about Fulton that lost it in a way

1994
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: really kind of derailed him. Now maybe he can prove

1995
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: us all wrong. I hope he kind of does, to

1996
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 1: be honest with you on Saturday, but I don't think

1997
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: he will.

1998
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 2: I think taking yeah, I saw fullon at the press

1999
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 2: conference yesterday. He was very quiet and reserved. He did,

2000
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: by the way, add boots andis his father Bosey to

2001
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 2: his camp and really feels like that's taken him to

2002
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 2: a new level. So we'll see the results of that.

2003
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:07,799
Speaker 2: But look, Figaroa a very small betting favorite on DraftKings

2004
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 2: right now. Minus one eighty five plus one fifty is Fulton.

2005
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 2: But I encourage everybody to listen to what Figaroa sai

2006
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 2: at the press conference yesterday. This guy is dialed in.

2007
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 2: He said, my goal is to be one of the

2008
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: all time greats in boxing. I'm just coming into my

2009
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 2: own at featherweight. He expects a huge performance on Saturday,

2010
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 2: and I'm seeing a lot of people liking the idea

2011
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 2: of Figaroa by knockout in this one. Referendum time for

2012
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 2: cool boy Steph Luke. I hope that he's able to,

2013
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,560
Speaker 2: you know, stand up and show who he is and

2014
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 2: that we get another classic here, but interesting storyline surrounding

2015
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 2: that Cole main event for sure.

2016
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: Here you go.

2017
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to topic number five and interesting stuff here.

2018
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 2: So the Paul brothers, you know, tried to fool the

2019
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 2: combat sports media cycle earlier this week to tease an

2020
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 2: upcoming boxing match on the Max app, which really just

2021
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 2: turned into be a commercial for their new reality show,

2022
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 2: Paul American. But Jake Paul made some comments about MMA

2023
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 2: that are interesting. Let's go to the videotape here of

2024
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 2: Jake Paul I Believe with OC and Barack on their

2025
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 2: new podcast, which by the way, was picked up by

2026
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 2: all the smoke fight. Shout out to them for joining

2027
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 2: the team. Always been big uh Barack and Ock fans

2028
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 2: right there, let's hear from Jake Paul.

2029
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 7: MMA is not what it was.

2030
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 2: That's the truth of the matter.

2031
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 8: Boxing is bigger than ever. The biggest sporting event of

2032
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 8: the year and twenty twenty four was boxing, whereas MMA

2033
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:31,440
Speaker 8: is becoming a shittier version of boxing. Essentially it's kickboxing

2034
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 8: because everyone is getting good takedown defense and everyone's a

2035
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 8: black belt in jiu jitsu, so there's no more submissions.

2036
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: Really no, there's not.

2037
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 8: A lot of takedowns, and even if there is, this

2038
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 8: fucking boring, but everyone's good at takedown defense, so it's

2039
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 8: literally kickboxing.

2040
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 2: Guess who the biggest star of the.

2041
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 8: Sport is in MMA, Alex Perreira, who's a kickboxer because

2042
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 8: he's knocking everyone out blah blah blah, and and he's

2043
01:37:58,080 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 8: the best one because no one can take him down

2044
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 8: and can submit him, so he's just knocking everybody out.

2045
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 8: But the UFC has less significant strikes per round, and

2046
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 8: that's with five minute rounds. So boxing is going to

2047
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 8: stand the test of time because it has it's been

2048
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 8: you know since the fifteen hundred, so five six hundred

2049
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 8: years of boxing.

2050
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 2: I don't think MMA.

2051
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 8: I'm not long MMA because it's becoming boxing.

2052
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: Luke, what do you think? There's some things that he's

2053
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 2: not far off on and there's some things that make

2054
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 2: no sense in that rant. How do you rate that?

2055
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 1: I mean, he is right that the biggest sporting event, well,

2056
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 1: the super Bowl was still bigger than Paul versus Tyson,

2057
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 1: But okay, you know it was obviously Paul versus Tyson

2058
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: was a huge cultural event. There's definitely no denying it.

2059
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: It was also a gigantic bust in certain ways, not

2060
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 1: promotionally in terms of what it was able to result

2061
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 1: for Netflix. And then you're pretty happy with it, But like,

2062
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: just what kind of fight was it? It was maybe

2063
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: the worst fight you've ever seen, Like it was. It's

2064
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: up there right in terms of like hype main events

2065
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,759
Speaker 1: that have captured the public's consciousness. It's arguably the worst

2066
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: fight ever. Right, So I think the guy who is

2067
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: responsible for one of the worst fights ever should probably

2068
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:17,560
Speaker 1: be a little bit more careful about casting aspersions on

2069
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: what other events or sports or things are not all

2070
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: that interesting. I mean, the reality is you get two

2071
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,679
Speaker 1: different experiences with Jake Paul. Either it's a sandbagging contest

2072
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 1: and it ends pretty quickly, or it is the most

2073
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 1: boring fight you've ever seen, Right, I mean you go

2074
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 1: back to the second Woodley fight as a perfect example

2075
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 1: of that. He rallied and saved it in the end.

2076
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 1: But up until that knockout, which was nice, But up

2077
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 1: until that, that fight was unbearably bad. Right, that's what

2078
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: you get with him. But it really I want to

2079
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 1: make it like one point here, which is it is

2080
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily false at all, really that there has been

2081
01:39:56,160 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 1: an evening out of ability which makes you know, any

2082
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: successful offense harder to come by in MMA, takedown defense

2083
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: has gotten better, striking defense has gotten better. Overall, defensive

2084
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 1: awareness has gotten better. Guys are, relative to fifteen years ago,

2085
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: less able to manipulate the other person, less able to

2086
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 1: really get ahead because defense has really, really, really climbed

2087
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: to a pretty far degree. But it should not be

2088
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 1: lost on people that the guy who thinks that MMA

2089
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: is boring because defense has gotten better is the guy

2090
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to take on relevant competition. Right. If

2091
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: we were to go back to the age where you know,

2092
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 1: Steve Jennam is fighting in the UFC. Yeah, you're gonna

2093
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: get better knockouts, and you're going to get them a

2094
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 1: lot more quickly because there's just a lot of lopsided skill.

2095
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: There's big gaps. It's easy to have sensational knockouts when

2096
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 1: there is big gaps in skill, and not just big gaps.

2097
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 1: But then, like you know, a requisite level is missing

2098
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: on the bottom end. That's the reality you can get.

2099
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 1: You can engineer better knockouts that way. The guy who

2100
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 1: is responsible for sandbagging or the most boring fights, because

2101
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: in either case he's really incapable of taking on the

2102
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 1: best and most relevant competition that is available to even

2103
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 1: his level, this is a completely empty, hollow charge. I'm

2104
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: not disputing that there is some truth to the idea

2105
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,719
Speaker 1: that the skill levels have evened doubt to a degree

2106
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 1: and that can make the action a little bit harder

2107
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 1: to come by. That's not false. But you don't get

2108
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 1: to be the flag bearer of that criticism when your

2109
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: entire career is predicated on making sure that the reasons

2110
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,719
Speaker 1: why those fights are boring are in his mind anyway,

2111
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: are is because of relevant competition, fighting relevant competition, and

2112
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: he has assiduously avoided that from day one.

2113
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of what you say is true, But

2114
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 2: to counter slightly, I will say the na Ideas and

2115
01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Anderson Sulvan fights were competitive and decently entertaining. But I

2116
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: will say that I think Jake's fighting the wrong argument

2117
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 2: with the wrong points here, Like, first of all, isn't

2118
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Speaker 2: he an ambassador for PFL and is supposedly like getting

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01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 2: ready to make his MMA debut that'll obviously never happen.

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Speaker 2: It seems that's number one and number two. I feel

2121
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 2: like this is really just just a battle against Dana White,

2122
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 2: whether it's rooted in the developments of Dana reportedly being

2123
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 2: the stop gap in McGregor not being able to box

2124
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 2: either Paul brother for that billionaire Indian family that wanted

2125
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 2: to make the spectacle or not. I think really the

2126
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 2: argument he should have made wasn't against MMA per se,

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01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:37,639
Speaker 2: but was against the reality of where Dana White's UFC

2128
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 2: is at the moment in this endeavor TKO Global era,

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01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 2: where they are constantly trying everything to take as much

2130
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 2: money out of their own product that they're inevitably weaking

2131
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 2: and watering it down at every turn. That probably should

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01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 2: have been the better argument against that than to just

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01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 2: try to go into a very generic well yeah, because

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01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 2: a takedown defense is not as exciting as it used

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01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 2: to be. Really, I mean, am I right, Luke or

2136
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 2: am I wrong? It seems like this is really just

2137
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 2: ranted against Dana and not the support of M major.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very fair point to make. And

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01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's just really weird to be like, guys

2140
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: have gotten good at takedown defense. I'm like, that's sort

2141
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 1: of the point, you know what I mean, sort of

2142
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 1: the point that it's hard to do things to guys

2143
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 1: who are really good at it. You have to be

2144
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: special at it. And again, there can be an argument

2145
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: to be made, are we recruiting enough of the high

2146
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: level guys We've talked about the decline of two oh five?

2147
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 1: Are are we recruiting enough of the high level guys

2148
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: whatever the waight class may be, to make sure that

2149
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: the next generation can really up the ante and get

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01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: over this something. And by the way, in any sport,

2151
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 1: there are gonna be periods where you know, there's like

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01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: a there's like a technical leveling out, and then there's

2153
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: a boost and a technical leveling out, And we might

2154
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 1: be in a leveling out period. Again, it's not to

2155
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 1: say he's observing, like he's just making things up. He's

2156
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 1: not making things up, but I think he's like, it's

2157
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 1: weird that he's a PFO ambassador. To your point, there's

2158
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 1: probably a Dana White component. It's very, very weird that

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01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: you're coming off of a performance that was so fucking bad. People,

2160
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with this again. And

2161
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: then you're worried about other sports are being boring, and

2162
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 1: then it's boring for reasons that these guys are fighting

2163
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:11,520
Speaker 1: tough competition, Like, yeah, it's fucking hard to fight tough competition.

2164
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 1: And I think the last thing I'd say is he's like,

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01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,759
Speaker 1: you know, boxing is as good it's ever been. Buddy,

2166
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 1: you couldn't be more wrong about that. Twenty twenty three

2167
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: was an amazing year, and twenty twenty four was hardly

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01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 1: a bad year. But there are troubling signs about what

2169
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 1: is happening. When I mean, dude, I want you to

2170
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 1: think about something. There is a local media company that

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01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: I think airs both the Nats and the Orioles. They're

2172
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 1: called Massive mid Atlantic Sports Network. They've got three million

2173
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,799
Speaker 1: subscribers and they just show the Gnats and the Orioles.

2174
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: The zone in the United States has less than a million, right,

2175
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:51,520
Speaker 1: and everything is moving there. There's hardly anything on network television.

2176
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 1: Boxing is slowly becoming invisible in the United States market,

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01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 1: which cannot be good for boxing generally and certainly is

2178
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: quite bad for it here. And he's sitting there talking

2179
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 1: about how and I liked his zone, I used his zone.

2180
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm not bagging on it. I'm just saying, what have

2181
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 1: they like, where are they as a market entity? And

2182
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 1: is this enough to carry the sport. It's not a

2183
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 1: criticism more than just we're asking questions about what it's

2184
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: meaningfully doing. And if mass in which just shows two

2185
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: football or two baseball clubs, is at three million, dude,

2186
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 1: like we're in. This is a little bit of trouble.

2187
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 1: Like to just sit here and declare victory about where

2188
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: boxing is while all while Saudi is draining everything and

2189
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,719
Speaker 1: there's nothing happening on network television United States that seems

2190
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 1: awfully arrogant, awfully.

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01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 2: Well, it's awfully or again, like you said, to make

2192
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 2: that comparison, when you're coming off an obvious bait and

2193
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 2: switch that was the Tyson fight in which you you know,

2194
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 2: tease that you're presenting a fight and it wasn't. And

2195
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 2: it's the same week that you baden't switched this reality show,

2196
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, tricking people to believe that you're going to

2197
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 2: be boxing your brother next in another spectacle, So you know, yeah,

2198
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 2: it's it's uh, check the messenger, check the you know,

2199
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 2: the deliver of that meta here. But is the message

2200
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 2: overall accurate to some degree? Yes, I just think he's

2201
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 2: arguing the wrong argument at the wrong i'man whatever. It's

2202
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 2: Jake Paul, Luke.

2203
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Whatever, right, right, Yeah, I mean I I let me

2204
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 1: just say this. I it sounds like I hate Jake Paul,

2205
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 1: and I really don't, right because I know, like the

2206
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:23,640
Speaker 1: head of BKFC was like, you know, oh he hates BKFC.

2207
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: It's like, I actually think BKFC as a business is

2208
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,919
Speaker 1: a really interesting thing. It's just that you guys explicit

2209
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,560
Speaker 1: explicitly and I have it. There's a video on my

2210
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 1: TikTok page. You can see it explicitly lied about Francis.

2211
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 1: They employ people who have ties to neo Nazis and

2212
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: a guy fucking died in their promotion. Like, yeah, you're

2213
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna get criticism for that I'm sorry, like, do fucking better,

2214
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, what do you want

2215
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: me to say? But but it's like the same thing

2216
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 1: I say about Jake Paul, Like I don't like his

2217
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 1: fights that much. Again, to your point, some are better

2218
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: than others, but I do respect his hustle. I do

2219
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: respect like what he has built for himself because none

2220
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: of it is accidental. Same thing with BKFC, like their

2221
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 1: success to the extent you can measure it is not accidental.

2222
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 1: And I understand that and I fully respect it, but

2223
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 1: you know, like it just blows my mind that someone

2224
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 1: can turn in an absolute disaster of a performance like

2225
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: that and then have the balls to say boxing is

2226
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: a doing great when there's real questions about its health,

2227
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 1: and then b MM is bad because ranked difficult guys

2228
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: have to fight ranked difficult guys. Yeah, dude, it's tough.

2229
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 1: It's tough. That's how that goes.

2230
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why he's not trying to

2231
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 2: get Tommy Fury off the couch to get that rematch done,

2232
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 2: to shut up anybody who's like, hey, you fought a

2233
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 2: real boxer once and he wasn't even real and you lost,

2234
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,560
Speaker 2: Like shouldn't that be his next focus? Go go go

2235
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 2: take care of that loss on the record, Luke, Yes, yes,

2236
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 2: not like I mean, do we really care? Hey, let's

2237
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 2: keep the show going. That's our five topics for the week.

2238
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We close the show with two

2239
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 2: fan inspired segments, and the way to reach us a reminder,

2240
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 2: of course, is morning Combat at gmail dot com. Tell

2241
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 2: Mikey we said Hi, do not show him your privates.

2242
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 2: The first segment is our opportunity to stand on trial

2243
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 2: if we've said something wrong this week. You gotta be bold,

2244
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 2: you gotta have time stamps, and you better bring it.

2245
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 2: This one's called dead wrong.

2246
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 1: Ben Wrong.

2247
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 2: Wow, a little more wrinkles.

2248
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 3: Added onto that.

2249
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 1: Do you notice they had that one last week?

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01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 2: I don't think they had the voice, didn't they.

2251
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the exact same one from last All right,

2252
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 7: I'm just.

2253
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 2: I got ct Luke. All right, let's go over to

2254
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 2: the first dead wrong. Look, if you had a guess

2255
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 2: who was the first dead wrong this week? Who would

2256
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 2: you say?

2257
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Roby? I was I got killed last week? So no,

2258
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: it's from Dazz Dude, It's from daz Daz. Back up

2259
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 1: on that ass and give these motherfucker. It was a

2260
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 1: blast from the past.

2261
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 2: So I'm talking about Althoha Donks. On Monday's episode, January

2262
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:51,879
Speaker 2: twenty seventh, at fifty five minutes, in discussing Ben Rothwell,

2263
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 2: Luke says, I think he beat Roy Nelson for the

2264
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 2: IFL Heavyweight Championship way back in the day. End quote.

2265
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,759
Speaker 2: While Elsi is correct that Rothwell won via split decision

2266
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 2: over Nelson in April of seven, it was not for

2267
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 2: a title, as the inaugural IFL Heavyweight Championship i e.

2268
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 2: The individual title and not the team title did not

2269
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 2: incur until December of seven when Nelson won the Grand Prix.

2270
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 2: He was their only heavyweight champion, defending the title twice

2271
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 2: before the dissolution of the promotion in July two thousand

2272
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:25,679
Speaker 2: and eight. Apologies for the confusing and partially dead wrong

2273
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 2: last week. My wording could have definitely been clearer. Deepest

2274
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 2: condolences to Luke and about Barbis. It's Mahalow, It's Jazz,

2275
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 2: thank you very ver. Dazz. Yeah, not Jazz. Jazz was

2276
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: an American gladiator, remember her. No, you don't remember Jazz,

2277
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 2: all right. She was kind of had it going on

2278
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 2: for them early nineties Luke, No, I don't know who

2279
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 2: this person is. Okay, I'm sorry, Thank you, Daz Mahalo

2280
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 2: to your ass. All right, would you like to see

2281
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 2: Dazz versus Telvin Ky Poppa in the Lava Shack parking

2282
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 2: lot bare Knuckle.

2283
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 1: At MK Promotions main event.

2284
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 2: There we go, Well, maybe the winner gets Christian Daguerro.

2285
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

2286
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 5: Hey.

2287
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 2: The second one from Michael, he says, hey dogs. Luke

2288
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: Thomas has been repeatedly dead wrong about Sayid Nermaga Medov's

2289
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 2: relationship to the Habib family. During the three to eleven

2290
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 2: pregame preview, Luke claimed that said is part of the

2291
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 2: Nermaga Medov dynasty, and then he mentioned it again during

2292
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 2: the Friday January twenty fourth show, But as it turns out,

2293
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:27,679
Speaker 2: said is not. That fact was mentioned a few times

2294
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 2: during his early UFC run. However, Luke's washed ass somehow

2295
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 2: still keeps making that mistake.

2296
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 1: I guess I'm confusing him with Abu Bakar.

2297
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 2: Then yeah, probably might be time for a brain scan,

2298
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 2: big dog. Just kidding, love you guys. Wow, Michael going

2299
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 2: hard in the paint. So Luke is oh for two

2300
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 2: on dead wrongs.

2301
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: This week.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been dead wrong it in a while. I

2303
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 2: don't ye they're killing all right, there we go, that's

2304
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 2: dead wrong. Thank you very much. Let's go to our

2305
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 2: final topic our segment. Excuse me when you send in

2306
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 2: pictures of your family and tight T shirts and weird memes.

2307
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 2: This one's called fan submissions.

2308
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: You've got mail fusures.

2309
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 2: Luke Sowul from Louisville, the finest roofer in the game today, says,

2310
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 2: my boy Floyd has sex successful surgery to remove a

2311
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: tumor in his eyelid. He's turning seventy this year and

2312
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 2: is doing great. Here I am sporting my Main Card

2313
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 2: Minute merch. That's Main Card Minute because MK won't sell

2314
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 2: me anything. I've ran out of the Jerkins Send Help

2315
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 2: joint paper provided by my boy Luke MK all day.

2316
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 2: So he bought Main Card Minute rolling papers from Nocita

2317
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 2: and a sweat and a shirt.

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01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 7: He's correction. Correction. He bought a shirt and I threw

2319
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 7: in papers as dog.

2320
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 2: He's nice. So Luke Sowel is posting about his dog, Floyd.

2321
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 2: I think he miss mis wrote that he turned seventy,

2322
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 2: but look at that dog.

2323
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he means he's ten and then in dog years

2324
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:57,719
Speaker 1: he's seventy.

2325
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 2: Right, it could be, but he survived the two. We're

2326
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: on the eyelid, Luke. Is there a realer motherfucker in

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Speaker 2: the game today than saoul A from Louisville.

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01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: No, no, this guy is about it, about it. This

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01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: is ar Chewbaca.

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01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, he's a Harry Bastard too. Yes, yes,

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01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 2: all right, Love you Saoul, Thank you very much. Shout

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01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 2: out to Floyd. May he continue to rain. Let's hear

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01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 2: from Bo, he says, Yo, Luke in BC My name

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01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 2: is Bo. I'm a longtime listener from the early days

2335
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 2: of MK, running my first one hundred mile race called

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01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 2: the Lake Sonoma one hundred mile suffer Fest on February first,

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01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 2: at twenty seven k of elevation gain. Think it'll take

2338
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 2: me about twenty eight hours, and since I'll be listening

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01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 2: to Friday Show during the run, I'd love some words

2340
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 2: of encouragement and maybe a laugh to keep going. Thanks

2341
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: for the live chat, the BCX experience and MK all day.

2342
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 2: Tell my brother John to suck it much love, Bo.

2343
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 2: Luke Bow is running a one hundred miles suffer fest

2344
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 2: as we speak at Lake Sonoma. If you could be

2345
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 2: his coach in this moment, what would you say.

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01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: Kill yourself? I mean, I don't mean that, but I

2347
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 1: mean I don't I don't mean that. I don't mean that,

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01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that's what I would do. I'm not

2349
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 1: running a hundred fucking miles.

2350
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying this This mfort is Look

2351
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 2: come on, bro, keep it going one foot after another.

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01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 1: Profest. That sounds like a metal fest, you know what

2353
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean?

2354
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like listening to Cannibal Corpse.

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01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 1: To be honest, but suffer fest. I'm like, I'm good, No,

2356
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't like fun fest.

2357
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 2: Ultra marathon ers. These guys want pain in their life,

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01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 2: but you know what, they love it. Bow, You're a

2359
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 2: badass mofo. Get after it. Keep going the sooner you finished.

2360
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 2: The sooner you can shit, okay? Or maybe he's doing

2361
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 2: Do you think he's just letting it go as he's running.

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01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how that works.

2363
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 2: How.

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01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they probably pee on themselves because

2365
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 1: that seems a little more normal, but that's I don't know.

2366
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how they do that. I really don't

2367
01:53:58,280 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 1: know how I guess they just hold it. I don't know.

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01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 2: Why do you think he said, tell my brother John

2369
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 2: to suck it.

2370
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to answer that.

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01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much, Thank you both for your submission.

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01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 2: If you're listening now and you're running, brother, get after it.

2373
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's effing go here. Lazy beds back. He says,

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01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 2: it's been a rough start to twenty five for many, so,

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01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 2: in keeping with my minimal effort fan sub entries, I

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01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 2: wanted to share this one from our very own LTS

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01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 2: Live chat. It seems we have an artist on our

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01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 2: hands in the Tomas House. Happy to have both of

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01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 2: you donks in our lives. Love y'all. Lazy Bed Michu,

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01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 2: attorney at law.

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01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, so Violetta. Hear she drew me this

2382
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: PC and then he did he did he did this?

2383
01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 1: Oh wait, this is the other one. Hold on, this

2384
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: is one? Oh, this one? This one?

2385
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 2: Is that a clown?

2386
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 1: Or is that you? I don't think it's a clown.

2387
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 1: I think it was supposed to be a woman with makeup.

2388
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: But you know she went a little ham Okay.

2389
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean you know, I will say her her color

2390
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: palette is very similar to my own artistry.

2391
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 1: Someone said, who would have an exhibit an art exhibit first,

2392
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: vio Lette or BC? And I actually said BC.

2393
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very much. I do appreciate that. Thank you,

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01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 2: Leslie Lazybed for your lazy submission. What do you think

2395
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: about lazy Bed calling himself lazybd Mishu attorney at law.

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01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 3: I like it.

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01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I better call you all needs to be insulted more.

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01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: All right, we got one more from lazy bet. He says, well, well, well,

2399
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: it seems my social media algorithms have me confused with

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01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 2: a couple other middle aged hat enthusiasts. Wait, who's that

2401
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 2: in the ad our very own big beige. Brian Campbell

2402
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 2: seems to have found his dream hat and dream job.

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01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 2: Hope this ambition, this abomination, excuse me of headwear finds you. Well,

2404
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 2: can't wait to see you both on press.

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01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 1: Is that you?

2406
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 2: That's okay? That is me? But he made this himself.

2407
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 2: But what he's basically trying is that a real Boston

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01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Scali trucker hat or is this a joke?

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01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't I honestly, I I'm gonna bet that's real.

2410
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's real, but I'm gonna bet that.

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01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I need it if it's real Boston scale. If

2412
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: you're listening, I wear your hats on air all the time.

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01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go, Lazy Bed said, can't wait to

2414
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:07,919
Speaker 2: see you both on press row for the first GFL

2415
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 2: event event.

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01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: I would legitimately rather get shot in the face with

2417
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 1: liquid ebola.

2418
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 2: Look did you hear Darren Owen of GFL tell Ariel

2419
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 2: this week that if we want to make fun matchups,

2420
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 2: we'll just trade fighters to different teams for that week's Like,

2421
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

2422
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: What we did they? Late stage? I was looking this

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01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 1: up late stage. Ifl did the same thing, they did

2424
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: the exact same thing.

2425
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 2: Drop the team format. Nobody cares make ridiculous fight cards,

2426
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 2: make rock Hold Wideman, make Danis Tony Ferguson, like do

2427
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, all right.

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01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: And you got to change the rules up a little bit,

2429
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: which is harder to do. But but you know they

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01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 1: don't care about that.

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01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 2: All right, all right? We got one more fan submission.

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01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: It's from Paul Hi. Guys, this is my second time

2433
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 2: submitting this fingers crossed to get some airtime for the Donks.

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01:56:56,480 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 2: The music is AI generated and copyright free first with

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01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 2: Suno and I make a better song than g f L.

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01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 2: Go figure if you like it, perhaps we can get

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01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 2: a fatality next. What the hell is cold Exacy?

2438
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: Are we banging? Let's bang?

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01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 2: Do we.

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01:57:57,960 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 6: Like you? Were?

2441
01:57:58,680 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 7: No game?

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01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 1: That's one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.

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01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's brilliant on like eighteen levels. That

2444
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 2: is so well done. Who sent that in? That was Paul?

2445
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: Wow, dude, job well done. That was bananas. I want

2446
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 1: to share that one on social That one's incredible.

2447
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 2: So good, so good. Thank you Paul. That was a

2448
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 2: better song than GFL And a reminder, thank you, by

2449
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 2: the way for the fan subs the dead Wrongs Morning

2450
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 2: Combat at gmail dot com, and a reminder by the

2451
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 2: way that today's episode is Morning Combat has been presented

2452
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 2: by DraftKings DraftKings. The Crown is Yours, Luke Quick True

2453
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:43,919
Speaker 2: story time. Last night at the Las Vegas Harry Reid Airport.

2454
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 2: You know, when you land, you go down on the escalator,

2455
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 2: you get on that tram that takes you the baggage.

2456
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 1: And it's like the blue tram or the red tram.

2457
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 2: Right, yes, guess who was standing next to me? On

2458
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 2: the blue tram and guess what type of shoes.

2459
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 1: He was wearing. Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on,

2460
01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: give me a hint.

2461
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna imagine that he eats private parts like Tyrone Woodley.

2462
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck we're talking about.

2463
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnut, Oh my god, the hot dog fucking guy. Yes,

2464
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:17,880
Speaker 2: and he was wearing Hokahs, bro and he looked gross

2465
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 2: in person. I'm not lying, like perspect they have like

2466
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 2: did he have like bread spittle? And not necessarily that,

2467
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 2: he just looked like disheffeled like you would kind of

2468
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 2: expect him. Oh come on, dude, I've been I've seen it.

2469
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 1: He is famous, but he looks like every white guy

2470
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 1: from you know, the Northeast, a.

2471
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 2: Face you can't forget once you see it. Okay, I

2472
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 2: don't know why he's here. Maybe he's about to eat

2473
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 2: some some Glizzies somewhere. But shout out to Joey Chestnut

2474
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 2: in Vegas this weekend.

2475
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's a David Morel fan.

2476
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 2: Maybe, but he's rocking Hokahs, Luke. You gotta shout him out. Okay.

2477
01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, you know, Mike, he was like, you got

2478
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 2: to get him on MK. Right, I was like, I

2479
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 2: don't want to talk to this guy, right, you.

2480
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 1: You gotta get bread spit at you and landing on

2481
01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 1: your fucking face.

2482
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 2: Do you think he gets laid from this gig or what?

2483
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 1: The answer is, Yes, the answer is he definitely gets laid.

2484
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 1: But the question is with what you know what I'm saying, Yeah, like,

2485
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 1: what is the I'm the king of competitive eating? What

2486
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 1: do the groupies look like? For that? I'm going to

2487
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 1: guess lunch ladies, you know what I'm saying.

2488
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I might be into a few of

2489
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 2: them to be fair, all right, I mean you know

2490
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 2: they probably started as strawys. They ended up as waitresses. Look,

2491
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:30,480
Speaker 2: that's the way, hey.

2492
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 1: In competitive eating? Do they say they would have they'd

2493
02:00:33,080 --> 02:00:35,240
Speaker 1: go fishing with Hitler as long as he was pre

2494
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 1: math Hitler. You know, do they have those problems?

2495
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 2: They don't really have those problems.

2496
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's interesting. I wonder why.

2497
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 2: I wonder why, you know, we come full circle. Hey,

2498
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 2: this MK episode is over, but thank you very much

2499
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:49,840
Speaker 2: for watching. Please subscribe and like, tell your friends about it.

2500
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 2: It's still a great show and it's uh. Look, next

2501
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 2: week we're back with pregame preview a week from today, like,

2502
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go, people.

2503
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 1: There's a chance I might bring the Tuchster into studio

2504
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: next Friday, not Monday, but next Friday.

2505
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 2: Do you think she'll take a shot at Querver with us.

2506
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to allow that. But she

2507
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 1: will be she was. There's a decent chance she'll be there.

2508
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure yet. It really depends on

2509
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:16,880
Speaker 1: a few things, but she will be up no matter

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02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 1: what Friday night, and then we're gonna spend the weekend

2511
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 1: in New York.

2512
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:24,280
Speaker 2: This is great. Go Thomas family, take advantage of it. Yes,

2513
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 2: and you know, the UFC three twelve pregame preview will

2514
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 2: probably be two fights.

2515
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 7: Long, right, two fights.

2516
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 1: It's not very long, not very long.

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02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 2: I can't wait to break down. We should do a

2518
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:35,400
Speaker 2: resume review of Jake Matthews.

2519
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 1: How about that. I'm good, all right, all right.

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02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 2: Long Island, Luke, thank you for your service. People can

2521
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 2: check you out this weekend live stream tomorrow morning nine

2522
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:45,480
Speaker 2: am on that ass correct.

2523
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 6: Correct nine am for UFC Saudi Arabia and then eight

2524
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 6: pm for Benavitez Morrel joining Jesus Well.

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02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say this. I also have two streams

2526
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: on Saturday, although I'm not gonna be doing the Long

2527
02:01:57,840 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 1: Island Looke thing at nine. I'm gonna start at noon

2528
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: probab Belief for the Saudi Arabia one, and then I'm

2529
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 1: only going to do Main and Comaine for Benevidez Morel.

2530
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 2: All right, well check it out, check me out a

2531
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:15,000
Speaker 2: PM Eastern the Pay per View Prime Video PBC, Benavidez Morel,

2532
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:18,720
Speaker 2: Fulton FIGUAROA, let's fricking go. Thank you to everybody for

2533
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 2: the love and support. You too, LT. Thank you for

2534
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,040
Speaker 2: the love and support. Let's let's do it all right,

2535
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 2: let's climb this mountains.

2536
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, bro. I have a good call.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for a great team. Thank you and for

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Speaker 2: you people out there. Thanks for always sticking with us

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Speaker 2: and sticking by us. We don't always get it right,

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Speaker 2: but we do try hard. Take care of yourselves. It's

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Speaker 2: okay to sit while you wipe. It's like, it's what

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Speaker 2: most people do, you know what I mean? Like, it's

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Speaker 2: just like I encourage you to keep doing that, and uh,

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Speaker 2: that's that's LT on BC and uh, we're out of here,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much. Have a great weekend. Yeah, all right, indeed,