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Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gerwer.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, this fourth of December and the year

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Speaker 1: here in America's Voice Live. We appreciate you spending time

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Speaker 1: with us today. An arrest has been made in connection

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Speaker 1: later a new study has revealed that American citizens are

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Speaker 1: All that and more are coming your way today, so

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Speaker 1: As I said, an arrest has been made in connection

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Speaker 1: with pipe bombs planted near the Republican and DNC headquarters

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Cash Fortell and Pam Bondi held a

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Speaker 1: press conference earlier and identified the suspect in question as

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Speaker 1: Brian Cole Junior. The arrest comes after a nearly five

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Speaker 1: year investigation. Jet me to discuss this as a former

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Speaker 1: FBI officer and former Navy seal Jonathan Gilliam, as well

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Speaker 1: as a former FBI retired Assistant director Chris Piota. Chris,

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Speaker 1: let's start with you today. Look five years on, and

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Speaker 1: from what I heard in the press conference today, there's

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Speaker 1: no new evidence, no new tip, no magic bullet, if

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Speaker 1: you will, just good old fashioned police work. They brought

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Speaker 2: Well, Steve, Hello, good to be with you. What you

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Speaker 2: see here is the classic cold case approach, right. You

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Speaker 2: bring in new eyes, you bring in new perspectives, and

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Speaker 2: you also bring in new energy. With the new leadership

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Speaker 2: team at the FBI, they made it a priority. They

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Speaker 2: pushed for results. And also when you have some of

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Speaker 2: this extant data and extant evidence like this, sometimes new

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Speaker 2: of available technology and it generates investigative leads.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan, you know that made me true. There could be

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Speaker 1: new technology, but it was grainy footage. You could only

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Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of those infamous Nike shoes had been

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Speaker 4: And as Chris would tell you, you know, we look

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Speaker 4: In this case, I'm looking at the totality of two

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Speaker 4: perhaps the other investigators weren't looking at it through the

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Speaker 4: And I would like if Cash Mattel actually looked into

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Speaker 1: And gentlemen, let's be clear, these were operational pipe bombs.

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Speaker 1: These weren't some science experiment. These weren't some neutral bomb

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Speaker 1: this should be priority one, and it feels like there

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Speaker 1: it kind of struck me as unusual when I saw

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, well, I don't think anything's unusual when you

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Speaker 2: come to this type of activity. It could have been

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Speaker 2: to have any kind of preconceived models or ideas in

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Speaker 1: It was a good model or not.

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Speaker 2: Where he's where he is, where he's from. But however

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, both of you are veterans of the FBI.

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Speaker 1: You both worked in the bureau. Let's be honest about this, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of faith in the FBI

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Speaker 1: this this case, sat there for almost five years and

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Speaker 1: But again, no new information, no new evidence, no tip.

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Speaker 1: because this investigation that's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan, Well, I will tell you what I do like.

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Speaker 4: I have my own criticisms of Cash and Dan and

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Speaker 4: Pam Bondi. I don't like the way they're all over

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Speaker 3: I don't like that, and I've been honest about that.

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Speaker 4: But what I do like, and I think this is

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Speaker 4: an example of how Cash Fattel has allowed agents to

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Speaker 4: but I think you're seeing that in the sheer statistics,

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Speaker 4: being arrested. And I think this is one of those

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Speaker 4: cases they took something. They allowed investigators to work the

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Speaker 3: And and I think if we were able.

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Speaker 4: To look into the crystal ball of how things progress,

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Speaker 4: I think that that would be a big part of it.

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Speaker 4: Regardless of the motivation of the previous agents and the

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Speaker 1: You know, he hits on something important that Jonathan does, Chris,

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Speaker 1: and that is we heard the word team a lot.

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Speaker 1: We heard cooperation. We heard a lot of people thanking

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Speaker 1: little fashioned police work. From where I stand, what do

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Speaker 2: I'd like to just echo what Jonathan said. I'd like

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Speaker 2: As far as the FBI's direction right now, I think

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Speaker 1: All right, we've been watching video and you're seeing it.

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Speaker 1: They're the raid on the house there in suburban Virginia

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Speaker 1: where Brian Cole Junior apparently resided. Don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: their attention Jonathan. So the investigation obviously opening new chapters today.

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Speaker 1: I think Dan Bongino called it the prologue, a much

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Speaker 1: So where do these investigations go At this point, they

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Speaker 1: But where does the investigation go now? Now they can

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Speaker 1: open up new doors. Now they're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: by old going in the home and identifying the suspect,

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Speaker 4: Right, And we should remember that the FBI does not

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Speaker 3: On the complaint.

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Speaker 4: When the FBI investigates something, it may take years until

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Speaker 4: they know more.

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Speaker 1: nice to see you. And the thing that I didn't

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Speaker 1: side they screamed xenophobia. It's not xenophobia. It's called fraud.

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Speaker 5: It's a It's absolutely unbelievable, and it's the sum of

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Speaker 5: And he mentions in the recording Tim Walls by name,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an enormous scandal. And here's the thing. It's

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Speaker 5: But the Democrats always use you know, topics and subjects

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Speaker 5: I have two comments on this, because you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: And I've got an immigration component to this. You know,

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Speaker 1: Milton Friedman, thank you for that comment. It's not about

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Speaker 7: I can promise you that I will fight for President

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Speaker 7: And order is respected, especially as we're kind of on

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Speaker 7: an issue to all of us, and me especially is

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Speaker 7: defending capitalism. You know, it's a really it's what made

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Speaker 7: America great, and we're kind of living through an era

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Speaker 7: It's blessed my life, and I want to carry that

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I saw just yesterday

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Speaker 1: General Motors, Chrysler, Ford, all standing there as they talk about,

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Speaker 1: you know, removing these ridiculous cafe standards, which are the

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Speaker 1: which connects back to more American energy and the Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Energy Chris Wright, who right now continues to push

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Speaker 1: out more energy. Gas prices in Texas are two and

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Speaker 1: below three dollars a goalllon in some places in Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: and in your neck of the woods it's under two

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Speaker 1: doesn't It.

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Speaker 7: Nothing matters more to keeping things affordable and allowing for

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Speaker 7: through the twentieth and twenty first centuries. And you know,

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Speaker 7: anybody that studies history, you know, can tell you that

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Speaker 7: nations that have, you know, affordable energy are going to

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Speaker 1: There's no question vast quantities of cheap energy made America possible.

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Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. We've had natural resources. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest pieces of real estate in the world.

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Speaker 1: Because we have better natural resources, whether it's oil or gas,

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Speaker 1: or timber, or farmland or freshwater, you pick it, We've

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Speaker 1: got it. But we have people on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the aisle. What have you believe if we touch

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Speaker 1: those things like hydrocarbons, oil and gas, or cut down

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Speaker 1: trees or pave a road, that somehow we're destroying the world.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to set them aside, get them

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Speaker 1: some professional help, and move forward with building America. Your thoughts, I.

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Speaker 7: Could agree more and to the point of as you

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Speaker 7: discussed our ability to utilize our resources to create wealth

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Speaker 7: for Americans and improve everybody's quality of life. There's no

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Speaker 7: greater force for good than capitalism. Capitalism is what differentiates

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Speaker 7: the United States for our ability to use those resources

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Speaker 7: from say, you know, look no further than Venezuela, which

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Speaker 7: is blessed with some of the largest oral reserves in

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Speaker 7: the world. But the people are impoverished. And that's what

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Speaker 7: socialism does. That's what you know, giving up on free

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Speaker 7: market economics does. Resources are only as good as your

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Speaker 7: ability to utilize them, and that's why capitalism is key

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Speaker 7: to America's greatness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about that. So those are your

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Speaker 1: talking points. Energy, defending American values, making sure the borders

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Speaker 1: enforced and those that are here illegally, especially the violent ones,

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Speaker 1: get tossed out. I'll give you the last word. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know we capitalism is core to our message.

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Speaker 7: That and fighting for President Trump. I'm from the real world.

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Speaker 1: I'm a business owner.

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Speaker 7: I've created thousands of jobs, and you know, I'm going

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Speaker 7: to DC not because I need it on my resume

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Speaker 7: or I'm going to get rich being a lobbyist. I'm

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Speaker 7: you know, kickstarting my own campaign with my own money,

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Speaker 7: and I'm going to fight for President Trump and make

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Speaker 7: sure that my friends and neighbors.

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Speaker 1: From Texas eight. Their voice is heard.

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Speaker 7: And if you want to support that mission, you know,

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Speaker 7: we're all capitalists, as you can see on my hat,

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Speaker 7: and we have capitalist hats at Jensen for Texas dot Com.

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Speaker 7: So go to Jensen for Texas and help support capitalism

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Speaker 7: by participating in it.

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Speaker 1: Brett, well done, Really appreciate you. Coming on. I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: we'll talk again. So what's the primary?

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Speaker 7: March third? So we're really excited about our momentum. And

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Speaker 7: thank you all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Brett, thank you so much for being here. Brett Jensen,

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Speaker 1: everybody Texas eight. He's hoping to be the congressman from

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Speaker 1: that district. All right, I'm after the break. A new

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Speaker 1: study has revealed that American citizens are moving to states

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Speaker 1: with lower tax burdens. Go a figure sure that tax

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Speaker 1: policy actually matters to people that pay taxes, including the

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Speaker 1: possibility of no income tax. More details on that coming up. Well.

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Speaker 1: Trump Media just signed a massive six point four billion

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Speaker 1: when it comes to tax policy, Americans apparently of voting

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Speaker 1: with their feet. A new analysis VIRS data from the

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Speaker 1: National tax Payers Union shows taxpayers moving the states with

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Speaker 1: lower tax burdens. Go figure. Florida gains a new taxpayer

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Speaker 1: every two minutes, while California loses one every ninety seconds.

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Speaker 1: The shift is boosting Florida's economy by more than four

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Speaker 1: billion dollars a year. Pretty important stuff. California lost over

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty thousand residents in twenty twenty, the

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Speaker 1: first annual decline. Total loss is now above four hundred thousand,

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Speaker 1: and there's no recovery insight California, New York, Illinois, Inchigan

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Speaker 1: seeing the biggest jobs in taxpayers and income Well Florida, Texas,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, gaining especially among young and high income Americans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't you move here? To discuss at

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Speaker 1: the National Taxpayers Union Executive vice president Brandon Arnold. You know,

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Speaker 1: Brandon's pretty clear. The business I'd like to own today

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Speaker 1: is a U haul business in New York City. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a place I'm going to cash in,

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Speaker 1: but then in a year or two I'm going to

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Speaker 1: sell it and run. I mean says people are like, look, Tennessee, Florida,

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire. I think there's nine states that have no

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Speaker 1: income tax at all. People are going to those states,

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Speaker 1: aren't they Absolutely? And it's not just the fact that

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Speaker 1: they're going. We all know that there's this mass exodus

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Speaker 1: from California, New York, New Jersey, the states that you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: but it's the speed at which they're leaving less than

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Speaker 1: two minutes. It only takes less than two minutes before

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Speaker 1: somebody packs their bags and leaves California, in just over

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Speaker 1: two minutes before somebody packs their bags and leaves New York.

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Speaker 1: People are getting out of these cities, they're getting out

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Speaker 1: of the these states, and the reason is pretty clear.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the fact that they are moving

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Speaker 1: to low tax sometimes zero tax jurisdictions, as you noted,

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Speaker 1: like Texas, like Florida, like the Carolinas. They're leaving for

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Speaker 1: a reason, and it's because of bad government policies. Well,

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Speaker 1: it sure is. You know. I live in Michigan. The

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Speaker 1: annual budget there put it about eighty two billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I don't understand. The state of Georgia is

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Speaker 1: pretty similar in size. They're twenty billion dollars less. The

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Speaker 1: state of Pennsylvania is larger. They're thirty billion dollars US

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Speaker 1: on their annual budget. So you have to imagine some

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Speaker 1: of these states like Illinois, God only knows what they're

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Speaker 1: spending money on. I don't know if they spend money on.

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Speaker 1: In Michigan, our roads are terrible, the taxes are high,

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Speaker 1: and why would businesses want to go there? Why would

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Speaker 1: individuals want to go there? Even if you're somebody that

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Speaker 1: works from home, go to Florida. The weather's nice, the

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Speaker 1: taxes are low. I mean, it's a pretty easy sales pitch.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, talking about the spending I think is really on

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Speaker 8: budget wise, very very different. Florida spends less than half

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Speaker 8: on a per person basis than New York does less

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Speaker 8: than half, and yet they are delivering good roads, good

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Speaker 8: public parks, good schools. You know, they're delivering all of

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Speaker 8: the things that people want to see in a state

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Speaker 8: in terms of what the public is providing. And you know,

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Speaker 8: it's not just the old people. That was the old adage.

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Speaker 8: All people retire and then they move out of New

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Speaker 8: York or out of Michigan, they go down to Florida.

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Speaker 8: It's not it's young people, it's old people. It's all

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Speaker 8: people in between. It's businesses, it's workers, you name it.

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Speaker 1: So President jump this week, at least twice, I've hurting

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Speaker 1: tout of the idea of no income tax. Now he

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Speaker 1: says it can't happen overnight because his vision of the

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Speaker 1: future in America is no income tax. I like that.

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Speaker 1: But here's the tax that really bothers me and I

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Speaker 1: see Rhonda say to speaking of tax friendly states, is

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Speaker 1: focused on eliminating property tax. In the state of Florida.

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Speaker 1: There's an initiative in Michigan. A voter's initiative to get

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Speaker 1: it on the ballot for twenty six to eliminate property

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Speaker 1: tax because if you're an older person with all the

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Speaker 1: older people for a moment here, you've paid your mortgage,

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Speaker 1: you've worked your life. Now you're on a fixed income,

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Speaker 1: and the government keeps ratcheting up the cost of your

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Speaker 1: property tax as driving people out of their homes. That's

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Speaker 1: not right. The government shouldn't be able to see as

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Speaker 1: the home that you paid a mortgage on for thirty years,

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Speaker 1: I have spent your life in raising your kids, and

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Speaker 1: then the government comes and takes your home and sells

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Speaker 1: it at a fire sale. What about property taxes? I

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Speaker 1: think it's a big subject going forward.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 8: That's kind of the double edged sword of all of

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Speaker 8: these people moving to states like Texas, Florida to Carolinas

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Speaker 8: is that the property values there have increased dramatically, and

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Speaker 8: as those property values go up, so to do property

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Speaker 8: tax burdens. And that has really hurt a lot of people,

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Speaker 8: especially as you mentioned, people who have lived in their

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Speaker 8: on fixed budgets all of a sudden are getting enormous

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Speaker 8: property tax bills. That's not fair. There are certain ways

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Speaker 8: to work around that, homestead tax exemptions and so forth,

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Speaker 8: many jurisdictions have implemented. But the end of the day, yeah,

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Speaker 8: if you zero off property taxes, you can get around

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Speaker 8: a lot of these problems. You know, whenever I go

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Speaker 8: down to Florida, that's all people complain about property taxes

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Speaker 8: and traffits. I'd like to see the economic activity. They

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Speaker 8: hate to see those tax bills go up, and they

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Speaker 8: hate the fact that it takes them an extra twenty

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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, nothing personal to my friends in Florida, but

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of angry drivers. Brandon's right about that,

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Speaker 1: a lot of angry people operating motor vehicles in Florida

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Speaker 1: this day. When you talk about property taxes, inflation also

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Speaker 1: plays a role in that. Because your house the price inflates,

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Speaker 1: demand goes up, and the people that can't afford it

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Speaker 1: because they don't get more income, they've got a fixed income.

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Speaker 1: That's real problem Forrannimal talk about that more next time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here, my pleasure. Thank you. Brandon

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Speaker 1: Ardold with the National Taxpayers Union. I mean, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about property text go to Stevegriber dot com.

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Speaker 1: Send me an email. Always want to hear from you,

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Speaker 1: and don't go anywhere. We'll have a quick breaking back

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Speaker 1: out America's Voice Live. All right. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: if you can give yourself just one holiday gift, what

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Speaker 1: would be freedom from your credit card and loan debt?

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Speaker 1: Would it be for many families? That's the real wish

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Speaker 1: for this year. And believe it or not, there's a

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Speaker 1: unique window happening right now that makes this the best

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Speaker 1: time to take action. Jillian Barbery is here from you know,

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Speaker 1: from TV, but today she's joining us talking about something different,

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Speaker 1: totally different, a surprising year end opportunity to save some

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Speaker 1: real money on your debt. Jillian, welcome back.

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Speaker 9: Great to see you again.

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Speaker 10: Steve is always you know you had me pining for

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Speaker 10: Florida in your last segment. I lived there in Foy

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Speaker 10: Oh boyd, it's in Hellendale and when you move to California, passes.

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Speaker 9: And road rage. But here's what I want to tell people.

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Speaker 10: This is the time of year shopping and I know

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Speaker 10: that you know it's all about the kids, and somehow

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Speaker 10: it's become so you know, it's just all about gifts

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Speaker 10: and I can't stand that. And for people who are

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Speaker 10: gotten themselves into a situation that they didn't expect. It

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Speaker 10: could be an emergency. It could be you know, for

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Speaker 10: me it was disease, cancer, it could be a death

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Speaker 10: in the family. If you don't have that extra money

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Speaker 10: drive people into debt that they did not foresee.

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Speaker 9: So what I want our.

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Speaker 10: Viewers, your viewers see to do right now is before

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Speaker 10: you pay another bill, please go to Done with Debt

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Speaker 10: free consultation regardless of the kind of debt you're in.

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Speaker 10: They've dealt from you know, ten thousand, ten million dollars.

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Speaker 9: They are master creators. They don't want to get you

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Speaker 9: into bankruptcy. They don't want to get you into one massive, big,

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Speaker 9: you know, conglombrator alone.

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Speaker 10: They want to get you back on financial track to

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Speaker 10: stability so that you can use the dinner time without

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Speaker 10: freaking out that it's a collector. That you can go

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Speaker 10: to your mailbox and open your mail knowing that it's

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Speaker 10: not you know, some official looking paperwork if you think you're.

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Speaker 9: Going to go to jail.

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Speaker 10: Listen, there are so many Americans in this position. And

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Speaker 10: again you were talking about younger and older, and you know,

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Speaker 10: this affects a lot of Americans. I've met young people

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Speaker 10: in their twenties trying to get out of you know.

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Speaker 9: Debt, school debt.

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Speaker 10: I've met other Americans that are that are older, like

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Speaker 10: you said, they you know, they had houses and mortgages

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Speaker 10: and then boom.

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Speaker 9: They they lose everything. It's just absolutely horrible.

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Speaker 1: So well, let me ask you about this. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: the headlines for black Friday all time record well than

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Speaker 1: twenty six billion dollars spent. But if you're in debt,

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Speaker 1: that's financial black eye Friday is what that is. And

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Speaker 1: that I mean, you're just making it worse.

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Speaker 10: And so here's the thing with that kind of debt

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Speaker 10: and credit card. You it's in the back of your mind,

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Speaker 10: it's right, it's so it's it's it's financial, but it's

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Speaker 10: also emotional.

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Speaker 9: And when you don't see it, you don't worry about it.

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Speaker 10: Right, So you can get that gift for that person,

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Speaker 10: and you can buy that thing you've always wanted, but

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Speaker 10: you're in no position to do so you just want

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Speaker 10: that instant gratification, but it comes with long term, massive responsibility,

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Speaker 10: and if you're not in the place to payback, then

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Speaker 10: perhaps Done.

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Speaker 9: With Debt is the place for you to go. Just

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Speaker 10: Look at the testimonials Done with Debt dot com. They've

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Speaker 10: They will get you pennies on the dollar. They will

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Speaker 10: make sure that you get the best deals possible without

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Speaker 10: a lot of times. You know, oh, just two bankruptcy,

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Speaker 10: Well then you've got almost ten years of what living

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Speaker 1: That makes sense, you know, I've heard that before, Jillian.

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Speaker 1: These companies say, you know, just don't pay your bills,

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Speaker 1: forget about it, take the bankruptcy we'll give you. That

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Speaker 1: sounds like a terrible idea to me. I'm not in that.

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Speaker 1: It just sounds like the dumbest thing I've ever heard,

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Speaker 1: and I hear some dumb things in this business.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's so true because they think it's like this

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Speaker 10: short term fix, but it's a really a long term

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Speaker 10: going to try to get financing for something that's not

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Speaker 10: going to happen. So you know, whether you're one of

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Speaker 10: those people that has just a little bit of issues.

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Speaker 9: With finances right now in your credit card, or maybe

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Speaker 9: bigger issues.

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Speaker 10: It could be with the government, it could be with

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Speaker 10: because you've had, like I said, maybe a death the family,

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Speaker 10: or I had breast cancer PLoP up things that suddenly,

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Speaker 10: or job loss or divorce, whatever the case. If you

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Speaker 10: don't have that massive nessage, then it could put you

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Speaker 10: into debt, debt that you had no idea was heading

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Speaker 10: your way. So that's why we ask you don't pay

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Speaker 10: another bill until you get your free consultation with done

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Speaker 10: see what they have to say. You have nothing to

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Speaker 10: lose but the debt that you're in and when you're

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Speaker 10: swimming in it.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I know, yeah, let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: People make bad choices though, and they get themselves there.

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Speaker 1: They've got three streaming services, a new car on the driveway,

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Speaker 1: they've got fifteen hundred dollars phones, and they're complaining that

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Speaker 1: they don't have any money. Well, Gene, I wonder why not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's do some thinking. People. Come on,

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Speaker 1: you don't need three streaming servers anyhow. How does the

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Speaker 1: done with debt? Use this timing to help people get

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Speaker 1: some real savings and get on the road to recovery

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Speaker 1: so they can because it's stressful no matter how you

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Speaker 1: got there, it's stressful. You don't see but night, you

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Speaker 1: don't eat, you feel lousy. People are like, what's wrong,

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Speaker 1: You're irritated all the time. Let's get your life back,

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Speaker 1: your mental health backed right now?

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Speaker 10: Mine was like whoa, I was cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

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Speaker 10: I wasn't present, I was raising the two kids. I

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Speaker 10: had no child support. I was going through chemo. It

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Speaker 10: was a nightmare and I couldn't sleep at night the

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Speaker 10: whole thing. And by the way, cancer took a backseat.

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Speaker 9: People are like, oh, you have cancer. I'm like, I

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Speaker 9: don't care.

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Speaker 5: I don't care.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna lose my house and again, okay, that's before

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Speaker 9: I knew about done with.

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Speaker 10: I wish I knew about them a few years earlier,

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Speaker 10: would have caused me way less panic attacks and money

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Speaker 10: for that matter.

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Speaker 9: But I digress.

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Speaker 10: I'm here to tell you they're there for you. Don't

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Speaker 10: get in that situation. You don't have to just see

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Speaker 10: what they have to say. And this time of year,

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Speaker 10: it's not too late. It's end of year. Get your

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Speaker 10: financial financials in order so you can move forward in

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Speaker 10: the next year. And guess what the kids they can

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Speaker 10: live about their iPhone fifty ps.

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Speaker 9: I'm a gen xer. We rode our bikes till the

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Speaker 9: street lamps came on, and there were serial.

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Speaker 10: Killers out there in the eighties, I tell you anyway,

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Speaker 10: that's the point.

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Speaker 1: See all right, So done with debt dot com. You

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Speaker 1: heard Jillian, She survived the serial killers, thank god, riding

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Speaker 1: her bicycle after dark, rebel. Done with debt dot com

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Speaker 1: your free consultations today, Jillian, as always, thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here and such entertainment. There you have it after

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Speaker 1: the break, well else, re remind us just how wonderful

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Speaker 1: America is. Plus your answers to America's Voice question today,

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Speaker 1: do you support the United States military targeting these suspected

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Speaker 1: drug running boats. I look forward to your answers coming

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Speaker 1: up on America's Voice Live. Well, what makes America wonderful?

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Speaker 1: We do it every day here to put a smile

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Speaker 1: on your face. Make sure you feel good about things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel pretty good about things today. They've

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Speaker 1: had a couple of laughs on the program, which is good.

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Speaker 1: Today's story comes to us from Landover, Maryland, where a

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Speaker 1: commercial truck driver was able to thank the ones who

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Speaker 1: made her dreams come true. Metallica, you've heard of them right.

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Speaker 1: The quartet, made up a frontman James Hetfield, bassist Rob Traheel,

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Speaker 1: guitarist Kirk Habitt, and the drummer Lars Ulrich, held their

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Speaker 1: annual All Within My Hands concert in La A Philanthropic Affairs.

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Speaker 1: The funds acquired for the show go to help trade

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Speaker 1: students pay for the cost of their studies through a

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Speaker 1: scholarship program specifically designed for those looking to get into

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Speaker 1: the important societal function of the trades. Mike Row would

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Speaker 1: be proud all that to say. The band met Carmen

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Speaker 1: de Berry, one of the recipients at the scholarship backstage

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Speaker 1: during the show they did in Landover, Maryland, where she

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Speaker 1: expressed gratitude for the opportunity as the scholarship funds not

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Speaker 1: only helped her cover the cost require her CDL, but

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Speaker 1: also to get a job. Blue collar Americans make up

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Speaker 1: the backbone of this nation through the function of their

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Speaker 1: tough and often thankless jobs. And knowing that some of

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Speaker 1: the biggest names in American culture also realizing the impact

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Speaker 1: of blue collar workers surely is an indicative of what

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Speaker 1: makes America wonderful. My hat's off to Metallica today. All right,

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Speaker 1: here is your question of the day. You ready do

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Speaker 1: you support the US military targeting suspected drug running boats

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Speaker 1: out of Venezuela or anywhere else for that matter, Lisa letteya.

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Speaker 1: We hear from her a lot, Yes, I do. I

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Speaker 1: truly appreciate a president who stops drugs from coming in

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Speaker 1: compared to one who opens the doors wide for them

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Speaker 1: to come in. Greg Omen absolutely support those who claim

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Speaker 1: the me in the boats are innocent citizens. The men

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Speaker 1: that I think is what they meant. Please. They know

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Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing and they know exactly the risk.

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Speaker 1: I think it's getting harder to find boat drivers just

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Speaker 1: my guests. I wouldn't do that blue collar job, Becky Rome.

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Speaker 1: Of course, if they know that's what they are. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they aren't just saying, oh, look a boat,

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Speaker 1: let's blow it up. You're right, they're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: Look the Democrats always said during COVID, trust the experts,

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Speaker 1: trust the interests. Well, these are military experts. We have

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Speaker 1: high resolution satellites. We can see what's in the boat.

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Speaker 1: And I have yet to see a fishing. But with

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Speaker 1: fifty five gallon drums of chemicals running across the open

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Speaker 1: ocean at one hundred miles an hour, call me crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's too fast. The troll Dale Melucy writes something that

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Speaker 1: should have been done a long time ago. Yep, Tim

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Speaker 1: Paul has this absolutely cut into profits. Check Coleman. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: It's about time our government did something to the cartels.

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Speaker 1: I wish they would get at the sources as well.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow on the program, I'll give you a little preview.

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Speaker 1: I found a clip of Joe Biden. I told James

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Speaker 1: the producer this. I found a clip of Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty nine where he says we have to

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Speaker 1: go after the drug cartels and hit them where they live.

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Speaker 1: You see, Democrats at one point thirty five y years

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Speaker 1: ago actually understood the war on drugs. Now it's just

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Speaker 1: a war on Trump. See, they've changed their entire dynamic.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to be part of the Question of

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Speaker 1: the Day, just follow me on social media anywhere you want, Facebook, x, Truth,

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Speaker 1: Social and all the normal places. You're gonna find the

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Speaker 1: here on the program. All right, Now, featured on the

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Speaker 1: program is my good friend Eric Bowling. Bowling, welcome to it.

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Speaker 6: You can call me the Edge if you want the Edge,

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Speaker 6: the Edge, Edge.

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Speaker 1: Krueber, Kruber.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna rock your your audience's world because

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Speaker 6: I'm watching you do the Question of the day about

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Speaker 6: the boats, and I'm watching the chats and they're agreeing

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Speaker 6: with everyone's agreeing. Yeah, blow them up, blow them up.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to take the other side of the other

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Speaker 6: of this argument. Here's why. Listen, all right, everyone knows

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Speaker 6: I I lost a son to a fentanyl overdose, accidental

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Speaker 6: overdose in college.

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Speaker 1: I hate fentanyl.

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Speaker 6: I hate drug dealers, I hate drug manufacturer, I everything

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Speaker 6: about drugs.

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Speaker 1: I hate it.

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Speaker 6: However, when you blow up these people, they're at some

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Speaker 6: point they're going to grab a civilian, they're going to

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Speaker 6: kidnap a civilian and put them in a boat, and

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Speaker 6: you you blow that boat up, and you lost the argument.

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Speaker 6: Not that you're doing anything right or wrong, or did

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Speaker 6: you need a convention or or whatever, None of that.

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Speaker 1: None of those are the reasons. The reason being.

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Speaker 6: They'll play politics on that activity for the rest of eternity,

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Speaker 6: including midterms.

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Speaker 1: That point, Hey, here's the counterpoint. Barack Obama killed American

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Speaker 1: citizens America, including a sixteen year old, on drone strikes.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear the Democrats talk about that, And I

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Speaker 1: sure as the hell never heard a Republican say don't

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Speaker 1: follow those unlawful orders. That didn't happen either. And Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump twice this week and the oval said, uh, they're

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Speaker 1: going to go in by ground. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that looks like, but I can tell you this, when

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Speaker 1: watching the flight patterns here over the last twenty four

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Speaker 1: to forty eight hours, there's a lot of machinery moving south.

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Speaker 1: Eric and I'm another is one like this idea.

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Speaker 6: I just I don't think we need to be involved

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Speaker 6: anymore foreign wars.

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Speaker 1: Something's gonna happen. I don't know if it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a war. It might be, you know, strikes. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's being a war, but there will be. Look,

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Speaker 1: let's just cut the bowl. We're already on the ground, right,

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Speaker 1: We're already on the ground. Were on the ground. Fact,

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Speaker 1: we're we're we're on the ground there.

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Speaker 6: I just don't think that we need to be the

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Speaker 6: creator and maker