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Speaker 1: Hmm, what's spreading dangerous misinformation my empire of fake news websites.

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Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans, host Behind the Bastards with another really

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Speaker 1: bad introduction. Sophie is not here to be disappointed in me,

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Speaker 1: so the disappointment will have to flow from my guests

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Speaker 1: for today, which are of course Dan and Jordan from

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Speaker 1: the podcast Knowledge five. Thanks for having us, man, it

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Speaker 1: is a real honor to be your first ever repeat guest. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a real treat. I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's true. Doesn't have regular the show. Dan doesn't listen

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Speaker 1: to the show. I'm sorry, Robert, he's he's been lying

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Speaker 1: to you this entire time. That was me trying to

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Speaker 1: come out of the gate with a hot bit and

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Speaker 1: it just fell flast. Well. I listened to y'all show constantly.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my regular pieces of Jim listening. You

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Speaker 1: do a show about Alex Jones and his his entire

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Speaker 1: world of of madness. Uh, and and Jones himself is

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Speaker 1: such a typhoon of nonsense that he provides you with

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Speaker 1: enough content for what five to seven hours a week

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Speaker 1: of podcasts at least it's too much. Whatever it ends up, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a he's It's it's really crazy. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: been doing the show for like two years, and I'm

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Speaker 1: still surprised from time to time. It's a he's nuts.

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Speaker 1: Somebody showed us that we had done three hundred episodes

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Speaker 1: and we had no idea. That's no sane amount of content.

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Speaker 1: That was like six months ago like that. We have

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Speaker 1: no idea you blazed past that number at this point again, um, well,

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Speaker 1: today we're talking about someone who is very much in

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Speaker 1: the orbit of Alex Jones, although at this point it

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Speaker 1: might be fair to say that Jones is more orbiting

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Speaker 1: around him, or maybe they're one of those situations where

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Speaker 1: I think you both know more about astro faces than

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Speaker 1: I do. But aren't there situations where you have like

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Speaker 1: two sons in the solar system and it it's terrible

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Speaker 1: for everything? Do you mean a binary star system? There

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Speaker 1: we go, Thank you, Star trek Man. I know no

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Speaker 1: further things than that it's called a binary star system.

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Speaker 1: I was just bluffing so hard it was great. George

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Speaker 1: also doesn't know who you're about to talk about. Intentionally

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Speaker 1: withheld that information from It's our gig man. I'm not

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Speaker 1: supposed to know what's going on? Oh beautiful, beautiful, Well,

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Speaker 1: our audience will not know this person, you will know them. Well,

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Speaker 1: we are talking today about Mike Adams was Now that's

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Speaker 1: what the response he deserves. UM. So I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: with a lead in from something you guys already know

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Speaker 1: we'll draw the audience in before we started, back at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of Mike's career. So, if you'll indulge me

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Speaker 1: in this um. On February eighteen, roughly two thirty pm,

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Speaker 1: Some of those children went on to become gun control

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Speaker 1: after the Parkland shooting, a website called Hogwatch went live.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys aware of Hogwatch? All to Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I remember when we all thought that's what the Internet

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Speaker 1: because he's actually hugely influential, and I don't know why

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Speaker 1: He twisted the government warning people not to stockpile for

429
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Speaker 1: ye two K into a conspiracy. The government, he said,

430
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Speaker 1: was trying to discourage individual preparedness. Later on in his

431
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Speaker 1: fact sheet, Mike launches into what might be the earliest example.

432
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: I found a FEMA conspiracy mongering who the pre y?

433
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: T u K? Information battles brought forth a new dangerous

434
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Speaker 1: line of thinking that individual preparedness is bad for society

435
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: as a whole. This theory, supported and publicized by various

436
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Speaker 1: government leaders, removes the possibility the responsibility of preparedness from

437
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: the people, moving it to centralized government agencies like Femaam there.

438
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: It is from nine or two thousand, right after the

439
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: new Yea, the millennium balls on that guy. Yeah it is.

440
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: It is the most annoying bullshit that they always get

441
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Speaker 1: that if it does, it's the disaster doesn't happen. The

442
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Speaker 1: preparedness was them like hiding the secret from you. If

443
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: it does happen, the fact that you didn't prepare enough

444
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: is why the government is trying to kill you. There's

445
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: no win. They always get you. Yeah. Yeah, like you

446
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: have this and and and as further evidence of that,

447
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: like you could see and I think a reasonable person

448
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: would see the way that of the whole world kind

449
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: of moved to compensate for the white two K problem

450
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: and like fixed all of the problems and computers that

451
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: we had so it wasn't a big issue. You can

452
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Speaker 1: see that as like, oh, maybe the technological order of

453
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: our society is a little bit more robust than we thought,

454
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: and we are capable of like adapting to problems like this. Uh.

455
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: Mike Adams wrote that this was actually a bad sign

456
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Speaker 1: because now the fault tolerance of our civilization was still untested.

457
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: Oh it's like superbugs. Yeah, we're all too healthy. Yeah,

458
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: now we're all too we're all too healthy. We don't

459
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: know what. We didn't get a chance to sweet summer children. Yeah. Now.

460
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Mike Adams also claimed in this article that he never

461
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Speaker 1: made a dime off of selling White two K preparedness equipment.

462
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Speaker 1: Contrary to what was misreported in several newspapers and websites,

463
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Speaker 1: White two K Newswire was never in the White two

464
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: K supplies business. It never made a dime from product

465
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Speaker 1: sales or recommendations, and it refused to accept advertisements on

466
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Speaker 1: its website. This sounds a lot like Alex's whole, Like

467
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: wars doesn't sell anything if a war store sells everything. Yeah,

468
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: they're different things. And later in this he also claims

469
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Speaker 1: to have donated like tens of thousands of dollars to

470
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Speaker 1: the Red Cross from the prophets he made solid White

471
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Speaker 1: preparedness equipment against them. Yeah, they're they're a religious organization

472
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: of some sort. He's pretty religious. But yeah yeah, now, uh.

473
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Speaker 1: The end of that post notes the shutdown of White

474
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Speaker 1: two k news Wire, which you know. Mike shutdown after

475
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Speaker 1: putting this post up and claimed that he was moving

476
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Speaker 1: on to write at a website called zop dot com,

477
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Speaker 1: which he described as a personal empowerment website, a site

478
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Speaker 1: dedicated to improving the lives of one million people by

479
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Speaker 1: bringing them new knowledge and skills covering alternative medicine. And

480
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Speaker 1: not one person, more exactly a million exactly. Guys are

481
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: joking around, but this sounds like a pretty cool venture.

482
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Speaker 1: If this, if this website, if this website helps one

483
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Speaker 1: million and one people, I'm gonna have to kill somebody

484
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: one in one out at club now. Zop dot com

485
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: was only active as a health and wellness website until

486
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Speaker 1: mid two thousand two, when Mike Adams seems to have

487
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: wounded down to focus on natural news. However, as I

488
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: trawled through the sites archives on the way Back Machine,

489
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: I noticed something interesting. The domain seems to have been

490
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: allowed to allie fallow for a year, but then it

491
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: came back in mid two thousand four. But this time

492
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: zop dot com was not a health and wellness site.

493
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: It was a mass email subscription service for websites operated

494
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Speaker 1: by Aerial Software, which by this point Mike Adams claimed

495
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: not to own anymore. Fucking guy. That's that's such a

496
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: tip my cap to you, sir. Well done. Now, in

497
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: two thousand three, Mike Adams launched natural News. At least

498
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: that's when he claims he launched natural News. The Daily

499
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: Beast dug into it and found out that he didn't

500
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: register the site until two thousand five and didn't actually

501
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: start publishing articles regularly until two thousand eight. But somewhere

502
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: between in that five year period, he was he was

503
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: thinking about it before I founded it in my mind. Yeah,

504
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: built it in his head first. Now, even lie about

505
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: the small stuff, even the smallest stuff, that gotta lie

506
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, it's like Paul Manafort. If they they

507
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: if they if they stop doing the thing that they do,

508
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: they explode. So they just habitually do it. And uh yeah. Now.

509
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Natural news dot Com was initially at least a pretty

510
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: standard Woo and Crystal sort of website about fringe healthcare treatments.

511
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: Many of its articles focused on concerns that are pretty

512
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: common on the left wing, to fears about GMO crops,

513
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: articles about how monsanto is literally worse than Hitler, claims

514
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: that Big Farm is poisoning people. Pretty pretty standard fair,

515
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: which you'd kind of expect to find on any sort

516
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: of like you know, lefty health news website. Uh. And

517
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: in its early days, Natural News regularly adopted fairly liberal

518
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: attitudes towards social issues. They even did things that might

519
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: have verged on decent reporting. For example, this two thousand

520
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: eight article illegal immigrants create far lower healthcare cost burden

521
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: than previously assumed, written by David Goodier. As the article

522
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 1: seems to be, it's like it's it reads like an

523
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Speaker 1: acceptable piece of reporting. I'm going to read a quote

524
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Speaker 1: from it, just because everything that comes after this is

525
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: going to seem so fucking crazy that, like, it's insane

526
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: to me that it started here. A common argument among

527
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: those pushing for a tougher line against illegal residence is

528
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Speaker 1: that such people provide a drain upon public healthcare resources.

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Speaker 1: But according to Phoenix Nuniyaz, former director of the South

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Speaker 1: Central Family Healthcare Center, illegal residents try tend to shy

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Speaker 1: away from primary care visits because they are daunted by

532
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: having to provide social security numbers, identification and employment histories.

533
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: My gut would have told me that they'd be higher

534
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: users of emergency services. Because they're not coming in for

535
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Speaker 1: routine preventative care. Nunias said, the assumption is not borne

536
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Speaker 1: out by the u c l A study, which also

537
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Speaker 1: refutes the idea that illegal resident residents use less medical

538
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: care because they tend to be younger and healthier than

539
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Speaker 1: the general population. According to the researchers, the difference in

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Speaker 1: medical visits remained even after adjusting for age, health status,

541
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: insurance status, and poverty. This kind of study is really

542
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: important because it forces you to look at the data

543
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: and rethink your assumptions. Nunia said, what, Yeah, that's like

544
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: a normal, reasonable article about something meaningful. How dare the

545
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: health rangers sully his good name with reasonable reporting? Bullshit?

546
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk was happening in two

547
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, but that's an article they published and

548
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: it reads I don't know. That's the hardest thing I've had. Yeah,

549
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: that's tough. It's it just is a perfectly normal seeming article.

550
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: Uh Now, what's set Natural News apart during its early period.

551
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: What's not its content, which was mostly forgettable, but the

552
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: skill with which Mike Adams manipulated Google's algorithms to maximize

553
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: his traffic in addition to Natural News, he registered a

554
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: string of health advice websites Expectant Mothers dot com, News

555
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Target dot com, hoodia factor dot com, which I don't

556
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: know what the funk that is emerging future dot com,

557
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: spa m anatomy dot com, Vitamin factor dot org, Counterthink

558
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: dot com, health factor dot info, junk Science dot info,

559
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: Brain health news dot com, low karrest oral Diets dot

560
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: diets Link dot com, Public health news dot org, Pharmawatch

561
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: dot info, Home Toxins dot com, poison Pantry dot org,

562
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: Depression Factor dot org, web seed dot com, and Consumer

563
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Wellness dot org. Now, all of these websites would regularly

564
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: link back to Natural News, using its articles to support

565
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: for their claims about the dangers of GMOs and why

566
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: you should buy various supplements, which, of course Mike Adams

567
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: sold on the Natural News store. Mike essentially created an

568
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: alternative fact ecosystem consisting of dozens of websites, many of

569
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: which seemed legitimate and claimed to be the work of

570
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: actual medical professionals. These sites would bolster each other's credibility

571
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: and spread advertisements for products Mic sold on natural news

572
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: dot com. Mike Adams was one of if not the

573
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: very first people to pioneer this strategy. So yeah, it's

574
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: almost like a weird like just completely self contained affiliate

575
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: marketing operations. Yeah, file file that under things that we

576
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: didn't know should have been crimes a year ago. Yeah,

577
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Yeah. No one thought, at the

578
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: dawn of the Internet, we should make it a crime

579
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: to create your own universe of lies. Yeah, I think.

580
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: I think just no one thought you could pull it off.

581
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: Like someone will, someone will stop him before he gets yeah,

582
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: no one will buy it. Ye that turns out to

583
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: do Yeah. Yeah. Now, like any good grifter, Mike invented

584
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: a sympathetic backstory for himself. He started claiming that, at

585
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: age thirty, he'd been diagnosed with type two diabetes. Rather

586
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: than taking the advice of doctors, he'd started researching wellness,

587
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: and as one of his website bios reads, he cured

588
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: himself of diabetes in a matter of months and transformed

589
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: himself into the picture of perfect health and mind, body

590
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: and spirit. So, using this backstory and the fact that

591
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: Mike Adams is a legitimately stacked and very fit looking man,

592
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: he embarked on selling bullshit health solutions to millions and

593
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: millions of people. You've called him stacked twice now, which

594
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: he's Look, man, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna call

595
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: a swall a swall boy is yoked. Yeah, we can.

596
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: We can attack somebody and not like I can. I

597
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: can attack Alex Jones and admire his incredibly thick neck.

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00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely credit, according to the Daily Beast quote. In August

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00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, Adams wrote a fifty eight hundred word

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Speaker 1: independent review of the Amazon Herb Company, a multi level

601
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: marketing organization selling herbal supplements. The article and others originally

602
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: appeared on his site News Target, but we're transferred to

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00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: Natural News with their original time stamps intact. The special

604
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: report offers a detailed third part of your review of

605
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: the Amazon Herb Company from a truly independent perspective, meaning

606
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Speaker 1: I'm not an employee or associated of the company, and

607
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no financial ties with him either, Adams

608
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: wrote in his review. Now that makes me think he does. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The result is that he and the founder of the

610
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Speaker 1: company had entered business together into thousand six or two

611
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Speaker 1: thousand seven. Based on Arizona nonprofit business records dug up

612
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: by The Daily Beast and the Amazon herb company was

613
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: not the only multi level marketing scam might got involved with.

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00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: Can I see your question really quick? Absolutely? Is that

615
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: related to Amazon the company or as the rainforest? It's

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00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: I think using the name of the rainforest because rainforest

617
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: makes you think of health, even though it's one of

618
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Speaker 1: the most deadly disease riddle places on the planet. Actually

619
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Speaker 1: just making sure because it would be very bizarre if

620
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Speaker 1: he was involved with someone running an herbal MLM that

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Speaker 1: was affiliated with Amazon. No company, No, no, not as

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Speaker 1: far as I can tell, I'm always weirded out by

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Speaker 1: people because you run into like a lot of use

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Speaker 1: of Amazon and like rainforest imagery in uh, in like

625
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: health companies and stuff. And I spent my childhood reading

626
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Speaker 1: like the stories of like Victorian colonizers who like would

627
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: wander through the Amazon and like of them would die

628
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: horribly of like flies burrowing into their bodies and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So that's because they didn't eat the right stick. To me,

630
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: the Amazon is a place of horrors. But yeah, to

631
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: Mike Adams, uh it was an opportunity to make a

632
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: lot of money, and he did, and he made even

633
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: more money working with an m l M called mos

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00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: or which sold Omega three supplements made from green lipped muscles.

635
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Speaker 1: Microrote articles about the supposed health benefits of these supplements

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Speaker 1: and advised his readers to enroll as distributors with the company. Um.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Mike also was on the board of mocks

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Speaker 1: Or as well, and was you know, an employee there,

639
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Speaker 1: But he didn't talk so much about that. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: he hits upon a solid business plan early on, which

641
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Speaker 1: is you build this this audience, you get a lot

642
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Speaker 1: of people reading your stuff, and then you start selling

643
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: them on m l m s, which he does twice

644
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: in a row, but then doesn't seem to do later.

645
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Speaker 1: So it may be that he found out that like

646
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: the m l M biz you know, isn't as as

647
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Speaker 1: profitable as he would have hoped. He got bored. The

648
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: man has conquered so many worlds, like Alexander the Great,

649
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: he cried salt tears, No more m lms were there

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Speaker 1: for him. Well, and he you know Jordan's He's he

651
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: was already rich at this point. Um. But Mike, Mike

652
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Adams is not the kind of guy who likes to

653
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Speaker 1: flaunt his wealth. Um. And in two thousand eight he bragged,

654
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: today I live in a modular trailer unit in Austin.

655
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: I still drive a Toyota pickup truck. I dressed like

656
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Speaker 1: a rancher in blue jeans and flannel shirt, and nobody

657
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: gives it a second thought when I'm out in public.

658
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: Some people want to look rich and popular, so they

659
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: wear a lot of blaying and drive a high end

660
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: card they can't afford, and they live in a house

661
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: they can't pay off, and they try to fool everybody

662
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: into thinking they're rich and powerful. I'd rather fool people

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00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: into thinking I'm not powerful. That's so fucking annoying. He

664
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Speaker 1: that is the most annoying thing you could do. I'm annoyed.

665
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: It creeps me out even more than someone who wants

666
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: to have like like really nice watches and trick people.

667
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you hiding well? And and that

668
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of goes into a little bit about how this

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Speaker 1: guy is deeply influential and has done a lot of

670
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: damage over the years, but has flown under the radar,

671
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, that's his goal. He knows on

672
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: some level that turning himself into an Alex Jones type

673
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: would not have gone well for him. Yeah, yeah, I

674
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't you pop your head up and then you get popped? Yeah,

675
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of like whack a mole kind of thing. He's

676
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: got the type of wealth and the type of ashholesh

677
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: nature of using it that makes you think maybe he's

678
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: actually just got a pyramid somewhere that he's like all

679
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: of his money has gone towards an actual pyramid that's

680
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: going to be buried in, like Nicolas Cage, Like that's

681
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: all he's doing with all the associate writers of Natural

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00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: News around him as his U. I thought you were

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Speaker 1: going to say that Nicholas Cage was going to be

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Speaker 1: buried with all of the associate writers of National Treasure

685
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: of those movies got Diana Krueger. It's called case. Is

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Speaker 1: that what it's going commit to the bit I I

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Speaker 1: will say this speaking of Nicolas Cage, and then we'll

688
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: get back to topic. I will be shocked if he

689
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: is not buried with other living human beings. Yeah, that

690
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: just seems very on brand for nick. I think there

691
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: will be about the population, like let him do it.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. Nicolas Cage in his greatest role, the murderer

693
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Speaker 1: of eight people. He's nuts, but he's interesting. Now in

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Speaker 1: two thousand eight, the same year that he got involved

695
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: in those m L. M. S uh Mike wrote a

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Speaker 1: book called The Seven Principles of Mindful Wealth. In it

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00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: he describes his operating philosophy. He describes his operating philosophy

698
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: as quote, getting past self imposed limits on wealth. Karma

699
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: doesn't pay the rent. Good karma isn't the recognized currency

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00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: in modern society. Dollars are. But again, it's like he

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00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: seems to be one of these guys who every now

702
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: and then will drop a little hind is like I

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00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: don't give a shit about good karma, about being a

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00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: good person, Like I'm about making that fucking money. But

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00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: he phrases it in such a way that it's like

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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: like a self help sort of uh tip, rather than

707
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: like him what he's really saying, which is like being

708
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: a good person doesn't pay the rent. Yeah, that's it.

709
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: Have the ring of some like really bland self help stuff. Yeah,

710
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: it's just like all right, yeah whatever. Yeah, it's just

711
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of darkness in here, but it's bland

712
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: and boring enough that you don't notice it, which is

713
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: again a good summary of Mike Adams as a person. Now,

714
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Speaker 1: I wanted to take the time to discuss and deconstruct

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Speaker 1: one of Mike's larger articles here, both to give you

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Speaker 1: an idea of how he presents his ideas and how

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00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: to illustrate how much his website changed from two thousand

718
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: eight to two twelve. So in February, Mike himself published

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Speaker 1: an article titled Microsoft buyas eugenics technology from Mark becomes

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00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: drug development partner with top global vaccine manufacture. So the

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00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: article starts by revealing that Microsoft just bought a piece

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Speaker 1: of genomic information software from Mark to use in their

723
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Speaker 1: Amalga Life Sciences platform. This is a program you probably

724
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: haven't heard of that Microsoft sold to research institutions, drug

725
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: companies and universities in order to help them evaluate data

726
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: while carrying out clinical tests. It sounds pretty dull, right, Yeah,

727
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: not if you're Mike fucking Adams micro quote. Rupert Vessi,

728
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: the vice president of Mercurysearch Laboratories, openly admits his deal

729
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: puts Microsoft in the role of being a bold drug developer.

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Speaker 1: He says, we look forward to collaborating with Microsoft developed

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Speaker 1: new bio informatic solutions to enable an expedite drug discovery

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Speaker 1: and development. This is a key statement to understand because

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Speaker 1: the term bioinformatic can only mean one thing, what stores

734
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Speaker 1: information in biology. There is only one digital information storage

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Speaker 1: system in human biology, and that is of course d

736
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Speaker 1: n A. Therefore, the idea of developing bioinformatic solutions really

737
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: means to develop gene targeting drugs and vaccines. This is

738
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Speaker 1: fully consistent with Bill Gates's admitted agenda of reducing world

739
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: population with the help of drug companies, technologies, and of course,

740
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: mechanized mosquitoes. Oh boy, Yeah, I can't disagree with anything

741
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: that he said right there. Pretty sure he's he's really

742
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: nailed it. He's the leaps of logic are right on.

743
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Speaker 1: He does bring up the mosquitoes in this article, of course. Yeah,

744
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: all these people do. Mike goes on to note all

745
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: this comes on the heels of other recent news that

746
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Bill Gates is funding sperm destroying technology to cause widespread

747
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: male infertility. Now, are you aware of Bill gates is

748
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: sperm destroying technology, Dan, We've we've wrestled with some of

749
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: Bill Gates's false, nefarious plans through Alex's, uh, his rhetoric

750
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: in the past. I'm not sure if I'm not sure

751
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: if we've touched on the specifics of how he's going

752
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: to get rid of sperm. Yeah, did when did he invent? No,

753
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: the actual story that he's referring to is the Bill

754
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: and Melinda Gates Foundation gave a hundred thousand dollars to

755
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: researchers who had developed a non invasive method of birth control,

756
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: which in this case involved destroying sperm with ultrasound. So

757
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: that's the actual story, which she translates to Bill Gates

758
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: is going to kill your sperm. I mean, if you

759
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: can do with ultrasound, eventually we'll get a gon. Yeah,

760
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: that'll just you know, shoot somebody's sperm from I think

761
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: that's an effective tinder to turns now. Mike puts all

762
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: this together and concludes that Bill Gates is plotting to

763
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: depopulate the planet in order to kill off large swaths

764
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: of human beings. The most efficient mechanism to use as

765
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: a self replicating gene targeted bioweapon, Microsoft's Amalga Life Sciences

766
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: technology developer March, which he misspells Mark's name there, theoretically

767
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: provides a viable platform to develop precisely such bioweapons. It

768
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: is interesting that no announcements from the company appeared to

769
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: have been made since being acquired by Microsoft in two

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Speaker 1: thousand nine, indicating that their work is now being conducted

771
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: in total secrecy behind closed doors. I bet they did

772
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: make an announcement. I bet they did. They did an

773
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: announcement in two thousand sixteen that they'd sold the company

774
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: to ge because it wasn't profitable. But to Mike, the

775
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: case is clear. There is no better way to promote

776
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: the vaccine profits of the pharmaceutical industry than to actually

777
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: release an engineered bio weapon virus into the wild. And

778
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: there is no faster way to reduce the world population

779
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: than to engineer either a vaccine or weaponized flu virus

780
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: that burns through the human population, targeting those of an

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00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: undesirable genetic profile who need to be cleansed from the

782
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: human gene pool. People. I gotta read this next paragraph, Danny. Sorry,

783
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: think about this the next time you think about purchasing

784
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: Microsoft Office Windows or someone in a Microsoft project. By

785
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: doing so, you are funding what could very well be

786
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: a global eugenics agenda with the ultimate goal of wiping

787
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: out a significant proportion of the human race. If you

788
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: save something in a dock x file, you are killing

789
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: your children. I am so glad that I've spent most

790
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: of my life torrenting microsoftware just so that I have

791
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: your hands are clean. Oh my god, didn't he used

792
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: to work with Microsoft in his email company? Yeah, he

793
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: definitely did. They were a client of fists. M M.

794
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: Now it occurs to me. We're now forty something minutes

795
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: and I've forgotten too ad breaks because I am a

796
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: hack and a fraud. So the first this AD break

797
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: that people are gonna hear is going to be the

798
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: second ad break. Uh. And I'm just bad at this.

799
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm bad at my job. You should you should hate

800
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: and and be ashamed of me, but you should still

801
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: buy the products that support this show. We're back. God,

802
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: that was really unprofessional in me. I'm ashamed of myself. Yeah,

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00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean you could look at it as unprofessionally, could

804
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: look at it as we're having a fun time talking

805
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: about a horrible dude. Yeah, we're We're really sorry for

806
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: entertaining you. No, I mean I I thrive on the

807
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: shame a little bit. And since Sophie's not here, I'm

808
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: just gonna have to imagine the judgment. Um, but I'll

809
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: be okay, I'll get through it. I'll get through it.

810
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: So as the Obama years rolled along, Mike grew more

811
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: and more committed to using his power for explicitly political ends.

812
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Up until about two thousand ten, he was more or

813
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: less an a political figure, avoiding falling hard on one

814
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: side or the other of the ideological idol. But as

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00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: with his friend Alex Jones, the election of America's first

816
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: black president was a profoundly radicalizing experience from Mike. According

817
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: to the Daily Beast quote in two thousand ten, when

818
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: Natural News began selling its own products, most were hippie

819
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: food products like cheesy kale chips or raw macadamia nut butter.

820
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: The more questionable products included a buffet of supplements and

821
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Speaker 1: parasite cleansing droplets. Today's story takes on a more apocalyptic tone.

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00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Under a category called Nuclear and Biological, readers can buy

823
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: breathing masks for children and hundred and sixty dollar electromagnetic

824
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: field reader. Meanwhile, far right conspiracy theories who begun to

825
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: crowd out articles on the benefits of turmeric powder when

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00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: I began writing for them in two thousand ten, I

827
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: wrote for about four and a half years. It was

828
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: mainly health. One former Natural News writer who spoke on

829
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: the condition of anonymity, told The Daily Beast there was

830
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: still some political commentary, it's become more extreme in their viewpoints. That,

831
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: coupled with some other things going on with that site

832
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: and how they were restructuring writers, was one reason I left.

833
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: I didn't agree with a lot of what was being

834
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: said on the site. So it genuinely wouldn't surprise me

835
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: if that was actually a quote from Mike Adams under

836
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: under an assumed name, like I'm ch t Adams, Like, yeah, okay, man, background,

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00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm not thrilled with what's happened. Yeah, I mean, it's

838
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: one of those things most of the people who talk

839
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: about him do so anonymously because we'll talk about this later.

840
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: He's pretty vicious at the people who come out against him,

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00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: which I think is again part of why he hasn't

842
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: been covered more, um because he he strikes back when

843
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 1: you go after him. Swing at Mike yeah, yeah, well yeah,

844
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: if you take a swing at Mike Adams, He's going

845
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: to try and take a swing back at you. Now.

846
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: The clearest sign that things at Natural News were shifting

847
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: in a truly dark direction came at the end of

848
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, when Adam Lanza killed twenty children and

849
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Two days after

850
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 1: the massacre, Mike Adams wrote a post on natural news

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Speaker 1: dot com. The title was gun can troll? We need

852
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Speaker 1: medication control. Newtown school shooter Adam Lanza lightly on meds

853
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: labeled as having personality disorder. Now this is a familiar

854
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: line of of discussion to you guys. Alex Jones has

855
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: the same opinion. That was a Yeah, there was a

856
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: large part of his immediate stuff about Sandy Hook was

857
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: definitely a lot of medication stuff. Yeah, And that is

858
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: one where I think Jones had Mike Adams beat, because

859
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: Jones has been on the they're all xanac zombies or

860
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: whatever line for a long time. If I'm not in

861
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: a stage all the way back to Columbine. Yeah, Well,

862
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he was relevant at the day

863
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: at the time of Columby, but yeah, yeah, for sure.

864
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: In the two thousand nine two thousand eight period we

865
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: cover a lot of times shootings, he does talk about

866
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: prozac heads and what have you. So, yeah, I mean

867
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, It's definitely been a long standing part

868
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: of his rhetoric. Yeah, so I'm gonna quote what Mike

869
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: Adams wrote in that article. According to ABC News, Adam Lanza,

870
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: the alleged shooter, has been labeled as having mental illness

871
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: and a personality disorder. These are precisely the words typically

872
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: hurt in a person who is being treated with mind

873
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: altering psychiatric drugs. One of the most common side effects

874
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: of psychiatric drugs is violent outbursts and thoughts of suicide.

875
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: The Columbine High School shooters were, of course, on psychiatric

876
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: drugs at the time they shot their classmates in nine.

877
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: Suicidal tendencies and violent destructive thoughts are some of the

878
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: admitted behavioral side effects of mind altering prescription medications. Adam's

879
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: next pivots to claiming that prescription drugs cause a hundred

880
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: thousand deaths per year and using this as a justification

881
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: for why guns should not be banned. He goes on

882
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: to write for guns to be as deadly as medications,

883
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: you'd have to see a Newton style massacre happening ten

884
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: times a day, every day of the year. Only then

885
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: would gun violence even match up to the number of

886
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: deaths caused by doctor prescribed FDA approved medications. Now, caused

887
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: is an interesting word in there. But yeah, yeah, caused

888
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: is an interesting word. And uh, I've got a breakdown

889
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: of exactly why this is bullshit because I think it's important.

890
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: I can't I can't take credit for doing all the

891
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: research on this. I founded on the personal blog of

892
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: a fellow named Dr David Gorsky. Now Dr Gorsky writes

893
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: under the pseudonym RAQ on a blog called Respectful Insolence. Uh.

894
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: He's a real doctor and a real surgeon, and he

895
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: also writes for Science Based Medicine, which is a great side.

896
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: He's he's a very credentialed fellow. Um. And since most

897
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: of the mainstream press has ignored Mike Adams for years

898
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: and years and years, uh, piste off, scientists and medical

899
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: professionals like David for a long time have been the

900
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: only people really keeping tabs on him, and David did

901
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: the hard work of breaking down exactly why Mike's claims

902
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: in this article or bullshit. Uh. He points out that

903
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: the main studies cited by Mike Adams was published in

904
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: p L O S One by Thomas J. Moore, Joseph

905
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: Glenn Mullen, and Kurt die Ferberg. And entitled prescription drugs

906
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: associated with reports of violence towards others. Now. The study

907
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: was a result of the f d a's Adverse Event

908
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: Reporting System from two thousand and four to two thousand nine,

909
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: and the authors basically looked for drugs whose users seemed

910
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: to be involved in an unusual number of violent altar cations.

911
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: They picked out thirty one medications, including eleven antidepressants, three

912
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: A D D drugs, and smoking cessation drugs as well

913
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: as you know. So, I don't know if you guys

914
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: listened to the episode I did on the anti vaccine movement,

915
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: But one of the main pieces of evidence that anti

916
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: vaxxers will use for the dangers of vaccines is vair's data,

917
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: which is the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System. So anytime

918
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: someone has a vaccine and something bad happens to them,

919
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: it goes into this database, and it's useful for researchers

920
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: trying to determine if there might be patterns of illness

921
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: associated with something, but it doesn't prove causation um And

922
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: the database that this this information is being drawn from

923
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: that they're using to conclude that psychiatric drugs cause violence,

924
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: is the same sort of database, and it has the

925
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: same problems. For one thing, it doesn't tell you, you know,

926
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: they're picking out all these people who had violent altercations

927
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: after being prescribed psychiatric medications. The FARES database doesn't tell

928
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: you if they had violent issues before being put on

929
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: those drugs. So it's possible that all of these people

930
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: had violent criminal history before getting medicated and then continue

931
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: do commit crimes given a full account of their context,

932
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: what their lifestyle is, where the their economic it is position. No,

933
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it is a passive reporting system and

934
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: it is only meant to be used and like a

935
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: high level thing for doctors to be like, oh, you know,

936
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: we've noticed this weird cluster of of behaviors associate with it.

937
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: We should look into this way way way more and

938
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: do focused research, and only then should we conclude that

939
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: there is a problem. But people like the the authors

940
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: of this unscrupulous people like the authors of this report

941
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: can use the data to make a claim that there

942
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: is an association between violence and psychiatric medication UM, and

943
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: that seems to be what's happening in this exact study.

944
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: David Gorsky goes on to note quote about the authors

945
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: of that study. Mr Moore has received consulting fees from

946
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: litigators and cases involving peroxytane, which is one of the

947
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: drugs in the study, and was an expert witness in

948
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: a criminal case involving Vara Nikelean, which is another one

949
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: of the drugs in the study. Dr Glenmullin has been

950
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: retained as an expert witness in cases involving varnikelein and

951
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: psychiatric drugs including antidepressants, antipsychotics, bindozai, azepines, mood stabilizers, and

952
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: a d h D drugs. Dr Ferberg has received consulting

953
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: fees from litigators and cases involving GABA penton um and

954
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: also Dr Glen Mullin has written books about solutions to

955
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: getting off of antidepressants and claimed that antidepressants cause violence

956
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: and profited off of books he's written making those claims.

957
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: Was the book called Have You Tried Just Feeling Better? Yeah,

958
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: it's the same ship with Andrew Wakefield. All of these

959
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: guys had been hired by lawyers to make the case

960
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: that they made in the study and then used to

961
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: help the lawyers they were working with sue companies and

962
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: as you as you were saying that I was just

963
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: aggressively nodding because it was that like, it's just so familiar,

964
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: it's the same fucking thing. So that's the chief evidence

965
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: Mike Adams has to support his claim that, um, you know,

966
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's chiatric medications that are behind mash shootings

967
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: like Sandy Hook and not the fact that literally anybody

968
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: can buy a gun for no reason. Well, he has

969
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: those studies and weirdos like John Rappaport telling him that,

970
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, like hang up that yeah. Now. Mike Adams

971
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: quickly found that mixing in far right conspiracy theories with

972
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: his bogus health news was an incredible recipe for printing money.

973
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: In the Obama era twoteen, his site was regularly drawing

974
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: in two to three million unique visitors per month. Mike

975
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: used his understanding of search engine optimization tactics in his

976
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: eye for the next big thing in bogus medicine to

977
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: capitalize on every health fear that went viral on the Internet.

978
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: He became a semi regular co host of Alex jones

979
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: Is Info War Show. Do you know when left started?

980
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: I don't know when that started. I think it was

981
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 1: around though, because he seems like a pretty long time. Yeah,

982
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: he's been added four years, um, and I don't know

983
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: why he started calling himself the health Ranger. I'm so sorry.

984
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: It's a cool name for someone like him. I understand

985
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: why he would do it, but I want to know

986
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: if there's like, I'll tell you why. Because he's got

987
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: a fucking sword in his garage. God damn it. I

988
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: would love to be a health ranger. Yeah, it sounds

989
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: like a hoot. Now. During this period of time, Mike

990
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: wrote articles for his site with titles like implantable r

991
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: F I D chips capable of remotely killing noncompliant slaves, vaccines,

992
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: lower immunity fluoride means lower i q S and more

993
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: mental retardation, and jumping rope and nine eleven truth how

994
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: the sheep will have been trained to avoid unpopular truth

995
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: about World Trade Center Building seven? What was that? What

996
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: was that? Hold on? Did you say? Jumping rope? And eleven? Yeah? Alright, cool? Cool?

997
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: I was see I was back on Double Dutch and

998
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: the Waco disaster, So I I missed that one by

999
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: a while. Oh, I see, I've been and I've been

1000
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: on Hop Scotch and Randy Ridge going to be Rich

1001
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: Randy Ridge, Randy Because Randy Weaver, Ruby Weaver, Randy Ridge,

1002
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: Ruby Weaver. That's my warm up exercise that I do

1003
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: before every That's my If I ever get hired to

1004
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: like write a children's cartoon and I want to hide

1005
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: like little bits of darkness in it, I'll have a

1006
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: Ruby Weaver and a Randy Ridge's characters throwing a little

1007
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: joke that's six year olds under no circumstances. Kid, Randy

1008
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: Ridge sounds like where horny teenagers go to overthrow the government.

1009
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: They're up on the Randy Ridge boy. So hearing all that,

1010
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: Jordan's Dan, you probably won't be surprised to learn that

1011
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: Mike rushed to capitalize on the two thousand and fourteen

1012
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: A Bowla outbreak now. As soon as it hit the news,

1013
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: he launched a new website, bio Defense dot Com, which

1014
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: was filled with advice on how to fight the disease. Likewise,

1015
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: after the Fukushima include his aster, he launched ses um

1016
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: Eliminator dot Com, which sold products that claimed would protect

1017
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: people fm radioactive fallout. Both websites regularly linked back to

1018
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Natural News as evidence for their claims. In addition to

1019
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: this more run of the mill grifting. Mike also approved

1020
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: publication during the Ebola outbreak of one of the craziest

1021
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: articles I think I have ever read, Treating Ebola with homeopathy.

1022
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right now, right, okay. This article ran on

1023
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: mike site. It was approved by Mike, but it was

1024
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: authored by a Norwegian homeo path and it is essentially

1025
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: the recipe for a homemade of bola remedy. I'm going

1026
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: to read that now, the whole recipe in case any

1027
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: of y'all are in the market for an ebola treatment

1028
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: that uh, I'm sure will work, include salt to taste.

1029
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty shocking. How to make your own ebola remedy?

1030
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: What you need? A face mask and gloves, good, of course,

1031
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: good start, Good starts. Two bottles fifty milliater up to

1032
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: five mill eater in glass or plastic bottles with caps,

1033
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: fine clean water, mineral or tap water. Okay, and a

1034
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: bola samples. Whoa hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,

1035
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: hold on, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, I get the

1036
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: ebola samples. But isn't there flow ride in the tap water?

1037
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: That's my I'm sure that was Mike Adams the same

1038
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: concern but he decided, like, no, a bowl is serious enough.

1039
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: They can risk the time, all right, they can risk

1040
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: the floor, righte, I got you now he he specifies

1041
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: it as some spit or other disease products, such as

1042
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: blood from a person infected with a bola or who

1043
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: is suspected sick with it. Any small quantity will do.

1044
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: Shouldn't this guy call it? Shouldn't was he calling it spit?

1045
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: This is not This is unprofessional boy, it's it's shocking. Yeah, man,

1046
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna be an ingredient on hell kitchen any moment. Now. Oh,

1047
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: there's more ingredients and alcoholic liquids such as whiskey, randy, rump, etcetera. Alright, alright,

1048
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: and six half an hour of your time. Uh, like

1049
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 1: you're making a little cake procedure. Fill the bottle with water,

1050
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: leaving about space at the top. Bol Sa in the

1051
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: water in the water in the bottle, close the top

1052
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: of the bottle with the cap, Hold the bottle and

1053
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: strike it hard against a solid surface, such as a

1054
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: large book forty times? What hold on? What? Exactly? Exactly?

1055
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: For times? You fill your bottle with a life a

1056
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: bowl of sample and water, and then you hit it

1057
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: against a book and then you then you're fuck. Then

1058
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: you need to get more abola. Now, next you pour

1059
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: the contents of the bottle out, you refill the bottle

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Speaker 1: with water, and then you repeat three to six a

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Speaker 1: total of thirty times. What do you do with the

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Speaker 1: water with the aubola in it that you have poured out?

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Speaker 1: The support down the drain that seems safe? Using the

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00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: stock bottle, you can supply the abola remedy to as

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Speaker 1: many people as you wants. No limit, No, even his

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00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: website had a million limit. Where does the booze come out?

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Speaker 1: So that's to help your deal with having a bowla? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't see a clear point which I'm

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Speaker 1: supposed to add the booze. Oh no, No, when you

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Speaker 1: store it, you add by volume the alcohol as a preservative. Now, guys,

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Speaker 1: you may know where none of us are doctors, but

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00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: you may have noticed that advising people to acquire samples

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00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: of a bowla swashing around in a water bottle support

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Speaker 1: down sinks could potentially transmit the abola disease to new people.

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Speaker 1: Like it feels like a possibility, feels like a chance.

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Speaker 1: If you're advising people to collect samples of the ebola virus. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's collecting a sample. Part is really the like it's

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01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: the buried lead. Yeah, this advice, where are you going

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Speaker 1: to get that? Holy shit? Now, the recipe is so bad,

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: so dangerous in toxic that even Mike Adams was forced

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01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: to eventually remove it and put up a disclaimer saying

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01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: Natural News does not condone any member of the public

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: attempting to interact with a bowl up. After that, Mike

1084
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: immediately included a related news link with another Natural News article,

1085
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: Ebola vaccine to be manufactured by criminal drug company with

1086
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: felony record. So he found it, he found, he found

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Speaker 1: the right tone. That he got that, he got the

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01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: exit door going as well. I like that botched the

1089
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: first shot, but yeah, to make one free for Yeah,

1090
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: he got his own rebound. I also don't like the

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01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: word eventually being in your sentence about like he eventually

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: took it took a little while. That's not good now, fellas,

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01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: speaking of pivots, it's time for me to pivot to

1094
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Speaker 1: the end of this episode. Uh yeah, you know, we

1095
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: have a lot more to talk about with Mike Adams, Uh,

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Speaker 1: including were you guys aware that he'd made a rap video?

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Speaker 1: What you. How dare you? Oh yeah, why did you

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01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: not open this episode with the guy we're about to

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01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: talk to made a rap video? That's what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to hear. Yeah, it's pretty pretty special. People weren't thinking

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: about sticking around, how they are? Who shot j R? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So before we before we roll out, will you guys

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01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: plug your plug doubles here? Yeah? For sure. We have

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01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: a website where our show is our podcast. It's Knowledge

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: Fight dot com, on Twitter, on iTunes, all those other

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01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: places knowledge Fight. Uh yeah, he's We're at Knowledge Underscore Fight.

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Speaker 1: I'm at go to bed Jordan's and I will be

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01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: at Zany's for the entire month of July. If you

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Speaker 1: want to come down, I'll be there. In Chicago, its

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Speaker 1: Cargo in Old Town. Yeah sorry, go to Zany's in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: or alternatively, find a business of any kind with the

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Speaker 1: name Zany's in your own area. There were demand demand

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Speaker 1: at gunpoint, if necessary, that Jordan be allowed to host

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Speaker 1: a comedy show. I'm in. Yeah, we will accommodate if

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Speaker 1: anyone forces the issue on this. I am not busy,

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Speaker 1: is my points. I'm Robert Evans. You can find me

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Speaker 1: online at I right. Okay, on Twitter. You can find

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Speaker 1: this podcast at behind the Bastards dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter and Instagram at at Bastards pod.

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Speaker 1: We sell t shirts behind the Bastards or no, we

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Speaker 1: don't sell them there, we sell them at the public

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Speaker 1: dot com. I'm exhausted. Um, this is the end of

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Speaker 1: the episode. Go hug a cat, uh feed a homeless person. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't allege any other crimes here. It's going

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Speaker 1: to say some about flipping a cop car, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna say that. I'm not going to say that

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Speaker 1: now because I already urged people to uh commit one

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Speaker 1: set of crimes, and I'm gonna keep us to one

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Speaker 1: crimes per episodes. So we're done. The episode is over.

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Speaker 1: Go be with your families. M h m hm hm