1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to Stephane. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: Never told your production of iHeart Radio And for this 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: feminist movie Friday, once again, Annie is letting me, we 4 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: letting my teenage self live in the wonderful memories of 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: some of my favorite movies. So excited and much like 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: my love for Brandy and Whitney Houston's Cinderella, these movies 7 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: made my heart sore and it still does. I rewatched it. 8 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: I was like, it's so bad, but it's so good. Yes, 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: it's so bad, it's so good, so we're gonna jump 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: into it. And today we are talking about the amazing 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: performances by Oscar Winner Whoopi Goldberg in the smash Hits. 12 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: I say both of them, sister act and sister Act 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: two back in the habit you get it? Any? Do 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: you get it? And we've used this pun before in 15 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: one of our titles about women in their habits. There 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: we go. I love it, um and yes, even though 17 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: the second one scored like a thick nineteen percent and 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: rotten tomatoes at this point, how dare they be Smarch 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: such an amazing movie with iconsed like Lauren Hill and 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Jennifer Love Hewitt being a part of it. How dare you? Um? 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: And as per usual, we come on the hills of 22 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: the anniversary of these films, the thirties anniversary. That is, 23 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: so the first one was made in nineteen two and 24 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: the second one was made in nineteen ninety three. So yes, 25 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: every time we do this, I don't know how we 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: could get it done, but we do. Um. So I 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: like to think that we are more relevant than we know. 28 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: It's a nice thought. But also there is a third 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: one in the works. Um. And this is all done 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: with Disney. If you want to watch it, you can 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: go watch it on Disney. Plus it began with Disney. 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: Didn't realize that I thought was touched Nome, but they 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: actually was a Disney film to begin with. And um, yeah, 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: there's a third one, uh coming coming soon. I actually 35 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: I think Tyler Perry has signed on to be a producer. 36 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Will Be Goldberg is very excited. Apparently Harvey Keitel was like, 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to be in the second one. Put me 38 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: in the third one. So you finally really loved this movie. 39 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: The gangster dude really loved this movie. Um. So we'll 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: see what happens. And it is also on Broadway. It 41 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: was anyways, and was made into a musical, as it 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: should be. I feel like that's only natural. Um. But yeah, 43 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: so let's get into it. Yes, let's so Sister Act 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: was released in two and though it ran into several barriers, 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: including going through civil writers, it was a success um as. 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: In fact, it hit the eighth highest grossing film worldwide 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: that year, and it sat in the number two spot 48 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: for four straight weeks, behind Lethal Weapon three, Patriot Games, 49 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: and Batman Earns Right, which, yes, was one of our 50 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: other feminist movie Friday double features. I think that one 51 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: was actually technically a triple feature. But yeah, that was 52 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: a fun one because I threw in Spider Verse at 53 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: the end. That's right, Annie, Annie, you always got to 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: add the extra. Yeah, we might be talking about Spider 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Verse at the end of this one. Who knows. Any 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: time I can take it. And with its thirty one 57 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: million dollar budget, it grossed two d and thirty one 58 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: million dollars worldwide, which was Yeah, not so bad for 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: a comedy film that was led by a mostly women cast. Um. So, yeah, 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: we're excited to talk about it. I did love this 61 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: movie when I was a kid. I think I was 62 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: a little bit young for it. I was a little young, 63 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: but I did love it. Um as we said. The 64 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: movie start oscar winner Whoopie Goldberg playing Dolores van Cartier, 65 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: who had just one that award for her role in 66 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: ghost Which have I told you my story about Ghosts? No, 67 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I've never seen it, but randomly one day the DVD 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: just showed up outside of my door, and I haven't 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: watched it yet, but yes, like within, like the past. 70 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: It was before the pandemic, but maybe the year before 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: the pandemic. Someone really wants to do the pottery sing 72 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: with you. I think it was a ghosts obviously. Also 73 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: starring in this film was day Maggie Smith playing the 74 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: reverend Mother Kathy and Jimmy as the sunshine Sister Mary, Patrick, 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Wendy McKenna as shy Sister Mary, Robert Harvey Kitel as 76 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: the gangster boyfriend vince La Rocca, and Bill Nunn as 77 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Eddie Southern. The original script and screenplay was completed 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: by Paul Rudnick, but due to some disagreement with the 79 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: studio and studio exacts, he backed off and other writers 80 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: stepped in, including beloved Carrie Fisher and Nancy Myers of 81 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: nineties drum com fame. Right, so there's a lot and 82 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: apparently like they had Bett Middler as the original star, 83 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: but she thought that her audience wouldn't like her as 84 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: a nun and would be Goldbrook stepped in, which was 85 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of controversial at the time because a black woman 86 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: being a lead like this for a big comedy was 87 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: unheard of, especially that it kind of crossed over into 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: worldwide fame. Also, there was a complication in that there 89 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: was a debate whether or not the lieutenant should have 90 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: been black or white. Uh well about race being a 91 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: huge issue. Um finally settled in having Bill Nunn, who 92 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: had come off of several other big films, finally being cast, 93 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: and for some reason, the romance part between the two 94 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: of them, even though you see little chemistry, it's really 95 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: played down, so you know, who knows how that went down. 96 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: But okay, so any I'm gonna just go into this 97 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna get really excited, you know this, because 98 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: I love these movies so much. I'm just gonna go 99 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: world went through for your listeners as well as Franny. 100 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: So we first meet Dolores as a child at Catholic 101 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: school acting out and making jokes, being admonished by the 102 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: nun for her silliness, But then we jumped to present 103 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: day nine. I know that's not present day. Don't start 104 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: with me. We see Dolores performing with her girl group 105 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: a montage of different sixties, fifties, seventies classics for gamblers 106 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: barely paying attention at the Las Vegas casino. We soon 107 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: find now that she's having an affair with a married gangster, 108 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Vince Larocca, who she's not happy with, and after receiving 109 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: a purple mink coat that was formerly Locca's wife, Dolores 110 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: goes to confront him and break up with him, but 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: as she walks in, she witnesses him and his boys 112 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: are murdering his driver for snitching. Oh no, so she 113 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: quickly leaves, but it's being chased by her boyfriend and 114 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: his men, and she rushes the police station to report 115 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: what has happened, which brings us to this hilarious hygiens 116 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: of our time with the nuns, which yea, this is 117 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: very very dark, by the way, very very dark beginning. 118 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: You're like, oh god, one immediately gets murdered, okay, And 119 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: I saw this at twelve, like I love this movie, wowny. 120 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: So she is soon placed in protective custody. It is 121 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: hidden with nuns at the St. Catherine's Catholic Church, and 122 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: due to the nature of the case, Lieutenant at the 123 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: Southern is the only one who knows of the location. 124 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: And to say the least, Dolores is unhappy with the arrangement, 125 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: but gives in so she dons her habit and meets 126 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: the other women of the convent. Here we meet Sister 127 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: Mary Robert, Sister Mary Patrick, and several others, including the 128 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: reverend mother, who was not thrilled because Dolores tells of 129 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: all these things that she had done previously, trying to 130 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: pretend like she was a nun and laws a veticos 131 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: with all the sinners. But of course whatever, and now 132 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: we know Dolores as Sister Mary Clarence. And at this point, 133 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: while she's telling these stories and complaining about the food 134 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: h the rever mothers suggests that maybe she needs to 135 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: fast and stop talking all those things. Kind of cool. Uh, 136 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: So the next day, Sister Clarence has woken up bright 137 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: and early, I mean bright and early to attend church. 138 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: There we see the sad choir of the ladies with 139 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: an almost empty church, and though she tries to fit in, 140 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Sister Mary Clarence decides to go to a local biker 141 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: bar because you know, she needs to get out, who 142 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: was followed by a Sister Mary Patrick and Sister Mary Robert, 143 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: both thinking she's going out to preach to the community, 144 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: so they want to join. They all rush back home 145 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: after listening to some delightful music and dancing, but are 146 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: caught by the Reverend Mother once again. And the following day, 147 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: the Reverend Mother puts Sister Clarence in the choir because 148 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: she's like, you need something new here, you go do this. 149 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: Sister Clarence quickly assesses the situation and the talents of 150 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: the different women. We discover that church Mouse can sing 151 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: very loudly um, that they can harmonize, and maybe sister 152 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Patrick is a little too loud, just loud okay um. 153 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, that's how she auditioned for that roles, 154 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: by doing the operatic voice. And they loved it so 155 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: much they don't do anything else. And so soon we 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: come to the following church service where we see a 157 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: whole different type of choir. Sister Merrick Clarence has shaken 158 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: the choir up a bit and it brings in some 159 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: new church attendees. Oh but the mother reverend Mother is 160 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: not happy. However, the monsenior is delighted and encourages a 161 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: sister Merrick Clans to continue to work with the choir 162 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: and even to go out into the community to minister 163 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: to the neighbors. And of course this gets h them 164 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: a lot of attention, including a news report on how 165 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: the nuns are out in the streets connecting with the community, 166 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: which is, of course, is the no no, and Litutenant 167 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: has to be like, don't do that anymore. You can't 168 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: be out like that. How you? How you? Why are you? Why? 169 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Just why? And as everything seems to be going okay, 170 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: we see that there is a leak in the precinct 171 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: and they have discovered they being the gangsters that where 172 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: Dolores is and reports it to Events, who has been 173 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: on the hunt for her the entire time, with a 174 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: big hit out on her. And though the Litic comes 175 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: to warn Dolores because he figures it out, she tries 176 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: to go back to save the nuns from Events because 177 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: they're coming, and only to be caught and taken back 178 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: to the casinos, where he commands his men to shoot her, 179 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: but they can't because she's dressed like a nun. They're like, 180 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: but she's a nun, you can't, you can't kill on 181 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: there and maybe she really converted and because of that, 182 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: she's able to get away. And at the same time, 183 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the nuns, actual nuns, have come to save her. And 184 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: as they catch up and they try to you know, 185 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: trick them, but now the gamesters find them, um and 186 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: catch up with the nuns and Dolora's and Vincent his 187 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: boys are debating who's going to shoot whom because again, nuns, 188 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: but it's not that they get caught and arrested and 189 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: everybody lives happily ever after the end. Also, the Pope 190 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: shows up. I should just yeah, because they have the 191 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: big show at the end. Yeah, that was I forgot 192 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: the Pope again. I approbably forgot again even though I 193 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: watched it again. I was like, oh, yeah, you don't 194 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: see the pope, you just see the back because they've 195 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: gotten so much attention. He shows up and of course 196 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: they do the final performance. And yes, the nuns discover 197 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: her true identity, but by us are nonetheless Yes, more 198 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: on that to come. We need to talk about the 199 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: amazing sequel. Very predictable and hokey, but I know it's 200 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: one of your faves. I still love it so much. 201 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: This is my first I had my first time seeing it. 202 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: I loved it too. It's fun um sister Act two 203 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: back in the habit absolutely so. And we have once 204 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: again the incomparable Whoopi Goldberg, Dame Maggie Smith, Kathy and Jimmy, 205 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: Wendy mckinna, and a majority of the previous nuns, joined 206 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: this time by the amazing talents of Lauren Hill in 207 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: her breakout role as Rita Louise Watson and yes you 208 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: do hear her full name. Oh I forgot to mention. 209 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Did you notice that Bobby from Supernatural was in the 210 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: first one? He was one of the hops. No, a 211 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: young a young Jim Beever, isn't it just so? You know? 212 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: But back to the second one, bad I just needed so. Yes, 213 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: we have Emmy Award winner Sherley Ralph as the mother 214 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: of Florence Wilson, Rita's mother, Ryan Toby as Wesley Glenn 215 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Amal James, who, by the way, wrote Miami for Will Smith. 216 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: So he's a songwriter, piece of tribute for you, And 217 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: of course there's more fathers and priests than this one. 218 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: I think they call him Friars in this one, which 219 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: I was like, interesting, um, and we add that to 220 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: the mix, and a Mr Crisp who is the antagonist 221 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: played by James Coburn. Oh, and uh, of course we 222 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: can't forget Junifer Love Hewitt, who was a part of 223 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: this one, very slight part, but she's still there with 224 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: all her makeup and glory. Yeah. I think I got 225 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: to the end and I saw her name show up 226 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, I knew it, But the whole 227 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: time it was kind of at the back of my brain, 228 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: like I know her from somewhere where you go, there 229 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: you go, there we go. So yes, let's get into it. 230 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: So the second one starts and we discover that Dolores 231 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: is thriving as a headlighter in a new Las Vegas 232 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: show which highlights her adventures from the first Sister Act. 233 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of what happens in Chicago 234 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: worth It and they have their like the whole musical 235 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: number about what just happened in the movie, sort of 236 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: like that. During the performance, her old friend's sister Mary 237 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Patrick and Sister Mary Robert come to not just watch 238 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: the amazing performance, but to solicit her help. The sisters 239 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: had been sent by the Reverend Mother to help revive 240 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: the school that the teachers have started teaching at in 241 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco. And so begins the new adventure of Sister 242 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: Mary Clarence. Yes, so back in the habit I said 243 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: it Uh. Sister Mary Clarence arrives at St. Francis Academy, 244 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: a school that has not been doing well, as in fact, 245 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: the school was on the verge of being shut down, 246 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: to the dismay of the sisters, but to the delight 247 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: of the administrator, Mr Crisp, who was seeking in an 248 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: early retirement. Um. And it's during this time Sister Clarence 249 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: is assigned to the music class, which is labeled the 250 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: Bird Class as did its quote fly right through it 251 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: um and the rambugtas crew does not disappoint with a 252 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: wonderful rendition of Yo Mama jokes and introduction to the class, 253 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: including the wonderful Rita Louise Watson right um. And Sister 254 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Mary Clarence's relationship with the class does have a rough start, 255 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: um yeah, but she soon gets them together by laying 256 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: down the wall. And though some protest a k some Rita, 257 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: mostly the class comes together and we soon discovered the 258 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: classes full of talented singers and rappers and piano players 259 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: um some of them. Yeah. And here the sister decides. 260 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Sister Mary Clarence decides, well, we can make a choir. 261 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: We can make this acquire um and that she does 262 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: with the first performance, Oh Happy Day, with an amazing 263 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: solo from Wesley Slash them all, um. Assume we discovered 264 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: that school was once a reputable school that one singing 265 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: competitions like every year, and of course that means this 266 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: new choir would be joining this year, competing and might 267 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: even help save the school. A very popular trope in 268 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: the night and it's here we see the return of 269 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Rita after Sister Mary Roberts has discovered her talent for singing. Uh, 270 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: it was a beautiful, beautiful song by the way. Sister 271 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Clarence talks Rita to come back and join the competition, 272 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: but Rita has to hide her lover singing from her mother, 273 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: as the mother disapproves of the dreams of being a 274 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: singer because her father kind of wasted away and never 275 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: fulfilling that dream, so she's like, get it together, essentially 276 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: really stern, but the secret doesn't stay a secret um 277 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: after her mother discovers that she's a part of the 278 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: choir Florence. The mother makes Rita quit to focus on 279 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: her studies, and even a visit from Sister Clarence and 280 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: does nothing to change our mind. But Rita's friend reminds 281 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: her of the importance of the competition and being one 282 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: of the group, and after being kind of sneaky sneaky, 283 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: she joins. After they do a huge fundraiser for this 284 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: trip because they all have to raise the money, and 285 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: we have a great sequence of what'll be called are 286 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: pretending to be James Brown Wonderful and they all go 287 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: to the competition together Yes yes, chess, including Rita Yeah um. 288 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: And at the competition we see the many stumbling blocks 289 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: in front of the kids and the school, the disapproving mother, 290 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: the discovery of Sister Married Clarence's real identity by Mr Crisp, 291 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: and other groups who seems so put together, like they 292 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: hear another group sing the same song they're going to sing, 293 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: but of course they overcome with an updated rendition of Joyful, Joyful, 294 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: led by Rita uh. They win the competition and the 295 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: approval to keep the school open. Her u um Rita 296 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: also gets approval from her stern mother, who's like, Wow, 297 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were that good. And of course 298 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: we couldn't in the movie without the big reveal that 299 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: sister Mary Clarence was not a sister but a headliner 300 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: of a Las Vegas show and she's like, yeah, show girl, 301 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: and she's like, I'll have never been a show girl. 302 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: I am a headliner. You know, you gotta have that moment. 303 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Of course, we do have to mention the fact that 304 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: they were all in these fancy robes, but they were 305 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: so uncomfortable they wore their street clothes. I'm putting quotes here, uh, 306 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: street clothes so they can could be real hip hop stars. Yeah, 307 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: it's very cheesy. It's very cheesy. There's a lot of lacking. 308 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I would wish for more singing, but I still love it. 309 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: I still love everything about it. I remember singing these songs, 310 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: quoting these quotes like so good, so good. Yeah, I 311 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: mean it's a very uplifting. It's fun story because I 312 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: remember because this was the first time I've seen the 313 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: second one, and I like, was all twisted up like 314 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: what if they don't win, like they built it up. 315 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: But it was It's nice. It was just it was 316 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: next to the school, of course, and I love that 317 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: when they were announcing the winner, the announcer was like 318 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: so excited for them, like over the top acting. It's like, 319 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: of course St. Francis suppecially biased here, what's happening, dude. 320 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: I did find it interesting that you had the split 321 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: between the school that usually one, the one that sang 322 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: the same song, was all white and very put together, 323 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: as in like they were posh, probably very rich school 324 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: versus the school which was apparently the only one in 325 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: that district, and the kids would have to have been 326 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: pushed at two other districts and would have been separated 327 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: and may not even be able to go to those 328 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: schools um because of not being able to get there. 329 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: So a lot of a lot of things that happened. 330 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: But like, of course, it was an interesting like opposite 331 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: of each other. We love, we love the underdogs, We 332 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: love an underdog. The nineties were all about the underdog, 333 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: and of course I think things have flipped on its 334 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: head more recently where they don't oftentimes win anymore, but 335 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: they get a good lesson instead, I don't like that well, 336 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: as thought it was nice. It was one of those 337 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: things where I was just like, oh, I also loved 338 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: about the second one. There was no romance, There was 339 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: no like, uh, couple coupling. It was just literally a 340 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: coming of age story about dreams. Speaking of which we'll 341 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: get into some of the themes. I don't know. Of course, 342 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: all movies have themes. I don't know if this one 343 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: has a lot of themes. This is not so much 344 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: feminist as much as like really new and different in 345 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: its perspective on how they did comedy and who led 346 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: these comedies and why it was so significant. It's interesting 347 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: to me because when this happened and Whoopie Goldberg took 348 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: the role over Bette Milner, I didn't see a lot 349 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: of articles where people were upset that a black actress 350 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: had taken over for a white actress, which I think 351 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: to have often happens today when it doesn't even make sense, 352 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: even if you have no investment in these characters, people 353 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: automatically have this conversation about what's woke, what's correct, what's 354 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: not correct, instead of just letting it be, which was 355 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: kind of that conversation we had about Brandy. There was 356 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: a lot of controversy with Cinderella because the idea of Cinderella, 357 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: a very fictional character, was of one race, which is 358 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: that it was superior of a race, which is a 359 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: whole different conversation, um, but in this role it was 360 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: not that way. There was a conversation about not seeing 361 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: many black women being nuns and whether or not that's 362 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: a thing very my new conversation. I will say there 363 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: were a couple of lawsuits here. I don't know if 364 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: you know this. UM. One there was a black nun 365 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: I think named de Luis or like similar to do 366 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Laura's who had written a book in the eighties seventies 367 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: was similar to this, how she got together the choir, 368 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: revamped city, all these things, and that she really and 369 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: she tried to make it into a screenplay. No one 370 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: took it, but she felt like they that Disney and 371 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: the screenwriters had taken their idea which was kind of similar. 372 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: So they're like, maybe she lost that lawsuit because she 373 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: tried for a billion dollars and that movie did not 374 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: make a billion dollars, but so that kind of went 375 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: to the wayside. There was another one um with some 376 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: fairly famous writers who said that they had that idea 377 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: in the early eighties of a closet and nune so 378 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: like a fake nun uh coming out and being a comedy. 379 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: But they also lost. Even though Disney was willing to 380 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: settle for a million dollars, they were trying to super 381 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: multimillion dollars. They lost completely because I said there was 382 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: not enough of the similarities. But a lot of the 383 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: similarities were that it was a black nun So I 384 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: thought that was interesting in itself, that that's such a 385 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: novel idea, that it became something that was like about 386 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: copyright and in frenchmen and all of that. I love 387 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: that today we still talk about it as as just 388 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: wholesome entertainment, even though again we talked about the gangster 389 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: and then a fair thing that happened. It's like, yeah, 390 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: but the fact that it happened like that she moved 391 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: on to the nunnery the convent made it more wholesome perhaps, 392 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: And I think the only curse word I remember hearing 393 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: is hell and dawn the entire time. Yeah, I really 394 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: liked about it that, which is not what I was anticipating, 395 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: because again I saw this movie and everything liked when 396 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: I was a kid, but I was young, so I 397 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: didn't remember a lot of it. But I really liked that. 398 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, they're kind of like painting Dolores as you know, 399 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: the antithesis of a nun, Like, oh, yea, she smokes, 400 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: she drinks, she curses, she's like lived a life, as 401 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: they say, but in the end, like they don't really 402 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: judge her for that, and they also don't like throw 403 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: her out when they realize she's not sister Mary Clarence. 404 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: They're like, no, she's been somebody who's been there for 405 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: us anyway, has helped does and we're gonna go and 406 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: be there for her and help her. Yes. I liked 407 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: that a lot because I was expecting a lot more 408 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: like oh, you're a lot the ending with with the 409 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: kids too, like you just leaved us. They just found 410 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: that are more impressive. Even the say you don't act 411 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: like a nun. I was like, wait, what, okay, right, anyway, 412 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: so let's get into some of these themes. Of course, 413 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: as you're mentioning about them rallying together sisterhood, I feel 414 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: like the literal the sisters being sisterhood with the commodity 415 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: the love they have for each other, the fondness and yeah, 416 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: the encouragement to have it for each other instead of 417 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: judging the automatically like oh my god, that's amazing, let's 418 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: do this together, I want to help you, or this 419 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: is even better, like it's it's such a beautiful thing 420 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: to see um and you can't even see that, not 421 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: necessarily sisterhood, but together nos and the kids that they 422 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: come together and rally together and they really feel like 423 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: something is important and they fight for it and it's 424 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: beautiful to see that. Yeah, yeah, I really liked that too, 425 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of both of them. So 426 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: I feel like Whoopi Goldberg's character was such a good teacher. 427 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: She was such a good like she could pick out 428 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: like oh you you could really sing this shy sister, 429 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: like oh you can do this, or you know, you 430 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: need to be a little bit more quiet, but does 431 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: it in a way that's very supportive and like not 432 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: insulting UM. And then with the kids, like she's never 433 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: there's never a piece of her, even though she's confident 434 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: in her like I'm a headliner, there's never a piece 435 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: of her that's like putting down someone else for being 436 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: better than her or anything. It's much more about like 437 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: building up to make the best choir, this group effort 438 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: that she can make. And I really like that. Like 439 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: in the second when it kind of starts where she's 440 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: very successful, but it doesn't take much for them to 441 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: convince her, like hey, will you come help us out 442 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: with these key She's like okay. Immediately she just thinks 443 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: that the reverend mother is in trouble and she's she 444 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: drops everything, even the publicist, who by the way, is 445 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: an actor from Designing Women, um and so he was 446 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: pretty big back then. Yeah, he was like, no, no, 447 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: these are my friends, No, I'll do what they ask 448 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: I love that, but you know, apparently she was like 449 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: that in real life as well. So the first Sister 450 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: Act she had gotten the flu i had to take 451 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: off a couple of days. But it was at that 452 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: time she had realized that the rest of the cast, 453 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: the nuns who weren't scripted, who weren't stars, who may 454 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: not have speaking parts, were possibly paying for their own mills, 455 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: paying for their own hotels, and she was not allowing that. 456 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: So she took that time as to not necessarily protest, 457 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: she said, but put things in line to make sure 458 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: that they are their knees are being met, and they're 459 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: being taken care of, and so apparently like she did 460 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: that for the cast. Uh, Kathy and Jimmy had actually 461 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: said that she was one of the most wonderful people 462 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: that she had ever worked with, that she really cared 463 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: heard about the rest of the people on the set 464 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: uh and Catherine the Jimmy had worked with, and if 465 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: I am correct, one of the either producers or directors 466 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: or writers was also from hocus Pocus. So she really 467 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: talked about how this was a catalyst for her career, 468 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: which is hilarious because she would have met I don't 469 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: know if she already knew Bette Midler, who was supposed 470 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: to be on this film, so you know, you know 471 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: the connections here. Um, But it's lovely to read that 472 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: that's what happened, even though if you read into it, 473 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: there was a lot of controversy, a lot of back 474 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: and forth, and a lot of like uh not niceness 475 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: that happened behind the scenes, not necessarily again with the actors, 476 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: but even just the old whole process. But yeah, that 477 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: she stood up for her sisters literally in making sure 478 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: that they are cared for. I love that, and like 479 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: you were talking about two. Something that I love to 480 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: see is like they grow together, like they learned from 481 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: each other as well. Wilpi Goldberg is uh, sister Clarence 482 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: is teaching them how to sing and to be confident 483 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: and to really together as a group. So did these kids. 484 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: She brings them together even if they don't like the 485 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: same thing. And I love the same part of the 486 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: young woman who doesn't know Mary had a little lamb, 487 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: and so she sings show tunes, which we have who 488 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: loves show tunes? Loves show tunes? Yes, now I love that. Again. 489 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: That's like as such a good example of her being 490 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: a good teacher, because she was like, no, we're not 491 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: gonna make fun of her. She doesn't know it. What 492 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: do you know, Like we can, we can come from 493 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: where you are and and get this worked out. So 494 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: I loved that too, And I loved like her relationship 495 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: with the Reverend Mother, which was very kind of you know, 496 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: clashy here's the antagonist in the first one. But the 497 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: reverend mother, you know, came around and was like, look, 498 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: I can I can appreciate what you've done. I can 499 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: see what you've done um for this group, and for 500 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: this church. Uh, and then in the second one it 501 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: is that they're good friends and protective of each other. 502 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: So that was very sweet to see. But yeah, it 503 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: was I don't know, it was very nice to see 504 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: a character that was so like willing to be open. 505 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: Like when she enters that class with the students, I 506 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: would have like melted into a puddle and God, but 507 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: she tried. Like she keeps, you know, talking about her 508 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: favorite music and trying to figure out what they like 509 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: and how she can get them to work together. Um, 510 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: and the same with the sisters at the convents, but 511 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: just kind of being an open listener and and open 512 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: about how difficult things are. I remember she has that 513 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: line where she says something like, you know, the one 514 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: thing I hate about this room is there's nothing to 515 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: throw when she's so frustrated. So it was nice to 516 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: see a character like that that was so invested in 517 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: other people growing together, coming together, while also being like 518 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: growing herself and and getting to show off her own talent. 519 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: And I have to say I forgot to add his 520 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: part um sister Mary Lazarus was actually played by an 521 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: iconic actress, Mary Wicks, who was in movies like White 522 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: Christmas that started being Crosby as well, like one of 523 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: the biggest iconic Christmas movies Problematic, but you know it's 524 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: it's still there. Um. She was also in uh, one 525 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: of my favorite movies, The Music Man, which I loved 526 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: as well, so like she was a big part of that. 527 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: But she is the original lead for the choir who 528 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: steps down and instead of getting mad, which often has happened, 529 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: she supports her and it was like, oh, a great job. 530 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: And she's also the one that does the show tunes 531 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: of the second one, as we talked about show tunes. Um, 532 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 1: but I kind of forget that these actors are iconic 533 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: in themselves and even though we may not know their names. 534 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: She has been in acting since nineteen forty two, if 535 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: not earlier, so she's been around for a long time. 536 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: And then her face is very familiar. You should probably 537 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: you'll see her and you'll be like, I've seen her 538 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: in something, And yeah, I think another part of the 539 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: growing together getting news believing in themselves. Of course, that's 540 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: the huge part of the nineties, really, like understanding who 541 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: you are, following your dreams. All of these things. The 542 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: first one is believing in yourself. We have Mary Roberts, 543 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: who doesn't seem loudly because she's so shy and embarrassed, 544 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, she helps her come out of herself. UM. 545 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: She does the same for Patrick, she does the same 546 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: for even a sister. Alma turns off her battery. But 547 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: then she gives her, she gives her a chance to 548 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: play away on that piano as she really gets into it. Yeah, yeah, 549 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: and that was that was nice to see because I 550 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: feel like when the first one starts, you know, the 551 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: church is empty, and you hear kind of several versions 552 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: of you know, I joined to help people, UM, and 553 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: we're just kind of sitting here and following rules. And 554 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: then yeah, Dolores comes in and it's like, no, here, 555 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: well we can revitalize this choir. I know that you 556 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: have this strong voice. I know that you can do this, 557 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: and I know that you can do this and all 558 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: this stuff. But then that does lead to them going 559 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: out and like getting to know the community and and 560 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: bringing other people in UM and seeing that confidence growing 561 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: in the second one with the kids, because the kids 562 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: were kind of like, well, this is a bird class, 563 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: as you said, like this is there's no point to 564 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: this UM, and she Dolores kind of kind of shows 565 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: them like, oh no, there you have talents. Um, what 566 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: what you choose to do with it? It's up to you. 567 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: But you have talent and you should believe that you 568 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: have talent. She does that with a moll especially and 569 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: rita especially, like you can do this and it's beautiful 570 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: and wonderful, and like this gift, it's good, it's beautiful 571 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: and wonderful. To here is the audience. Yes, yes, a 572 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: mall that that note that hits You're like, yes, I 573 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: love the sing um And of course everything can be 574 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: fixed with singing. Everything can be fixed with singing. And 575 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: did you know this? I will not lie. I love musicals. 576 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: And when I was explaining to a good friend of 577 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: mine why I love it, I just like, man, I 578 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: just wish a problem could be fixed with a song 579 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: and then you just move on. Yeah, people join in 580 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: and people don't judge. You know, it is nice. I've 581 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: told you that musicals thanke me nervous, but musicals like 582 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: this don't because I can anticipate when the singing is right, 583 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: if it's surprise singing that I'm yeah, the constant over 584 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: the top singing where everything is a song, which I 585 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: love I love as. In fact, I went to karaoke 586 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: this weekend and I did my friend and I because 587 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: We Love It, did a rendition of on my own 588 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: from La Miss because I Love It? Nice Man, did 589 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: we kill it? Yes? Did we sound good? No? She 590 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: sounded really good, screaming into the mike. Yeah. I just 591 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: love all of that. And honestly, though that's one of 592 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: her things for what we gold, they're gonna think it's 593 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. It's one of those commonalities 594 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: that people really can bond over. UM is music and 595 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: songs and your interests. Then she talks about that. She 596 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: talks about her love for old school motown music, UM 597 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: and the girl groups and how she found the dynamic 598 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: UM and how that really really affects her heart. I 599 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: feel the same way right now. I'm really caught up 600 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: in K pop music a lot of it, trying to 601 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: figure it out, and it feels very familiar, and so 602 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: it's comforting to that, even though I have no idea 603 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: what's happening right now. Music is very cathartic, Like you 604 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: find a good song and it can just give you 605 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: such emotions, UM, such feelings, and it was I mean, 606 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: like you know, as hokey as it might be. At 607 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: the end of the second one, all these kids are 608 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: coming together, they're singing this song and it's so good 609 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: and people are so into it. You're just like, yes, yeah, 610 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: it's true, it's true. We all are I think all 611 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: onto all of that. One of the biggest complaints about 612 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: the second one, and people are like, you know, they 613 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: didn't do this right, was literally that, um, there wasn't 614 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: enough singing that they cut off at the wrong times. 615 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: So when we have uh, you walking in to see 616 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: Lauren Hill's character and her friend and singing, um, I 617 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: sing because I'm happy, um together and then you only 618 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: hear of snippet and you're like, no, why didn't you 619 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: at least let them finish right here? That? And then 620 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: that the only other song is joyful, Joyful and oh 621 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: happy Day you want more. Although this is a realistic y'all. 622 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: When you're trying to rehearse for a song, it takes 623 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: a whole semester, especially if you're trying to do competition 624 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: to get it perfect. Right. Oh yeah, absolutely, I thought 625 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: they were. When they heard the other like more quote 626 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: polished group play the same song, I thought they were 627 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: going to switch it to was it a happy day? 628 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: In the beginning, I thought they were going to switch it. Um. 629 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: I like what they did. It was good, but yeah, 630 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: I was also like, I love these singing parts. Um. 631 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: I will say my one complaint is the dude, the 632 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: white dude trying to wrap. Oh yeah, yeah, it made 633 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: me change a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 634 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. No, I'm just kidding, but yeah, 635 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: I love that they came together. I love that they 636 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: tried to add rap. It really did feel like old 637 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: people trying to figure out rap and be like this 638 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: is what this is? Right it? Yeah, for sure, but 639 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: you know what they tried. It's okay. I think someone's 640 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: reviews the Cassio b and I was like, oh that date, 641 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: that's so dated. Why that hurt my feelings? Especially like 642 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: quit quit hurting my feelings about this movie. I love 643 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: it so much. I watched this one, I think way 644 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: more than I did the first one. Uh. It's just 645 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: something to that soulfulness to it, and it just felt 646 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: so beautiful. My sister I used to direct our little 647 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: church choir and she would take influences from there. Maybe 648 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: that's why I loved as much as I did, because 649 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: she loved these movies, but she would try to do 650 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: things from here. She would do that and then uh, 651 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: a brother, where art thou? We had different renditions from 652 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: that too. Very interesting, that's right? Were cool? Well, these 653 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: were certainly fun fun for me to watch. I'm glad 654 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: you got to watch the beginn welcome. Yes, yes, yes, yes. 655 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: They are available for streaming listeners if you want to 656 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: check them out. 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