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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December eleven, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: number ninety seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are Lively s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star
Speaker 1: and today's Wednesday, so we get you guys ready. We
Speaker 1: start getting you guys ready for Cowboys versus Rams. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go through, uh some storylines with Nick. I know
Speaker 1: he writes the article every week on don how's a
Speaker 1: new baby on that? Cool? Yeah, we all knew, but
Speaker 1: you congratulations to mister. We're putting head. Yes, we had zones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do shows. We don't take calls off the bad
Speaker 1: So were we taking calls? He might Let's take one today? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys want to call us calls eight eight eight
Speaker 1: eight five. We're gonna We're gonna take some phone calls
Speaker 1: today we are gonna take two minutes left in the show.
Speaker 1: Let's take your story right. That's where it is. I
Speaker 1: always forget about I know every Wednesday when I say it,
Speaker 1: I look over at Nick and inevitable he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: and he's on his phone trying to pull it up
Speaker 1: but find out. Yeah. Dave is also going to UH
Speaker 1: to give us his breakdown of the la Rams offense
Speaker 1: to Marvell do defense, but today we'll break down the offense.
Speaker 1: That offense is looking a little better these last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, so that will be something for us to
Speaker 1: pay attention to um and talk a little bit about.
Speaker 1: And as I said before, we will take some phone calls.
Speaker 1: The numbers eight eight eight eight five five two two
Speaker 1: nine seven you can call us there. You can also
Speaker 1: hit me on Twitter at Derek Eagles and I'll take
Speaker 1: your halls. Are your questions from there as well. First
Speaker 1: we'll start though with some injury updates. Jason Garrett had
Speaker 1: his press conference this morning, talked about a few guys
Speaker 1: that would return and one that would not. Tell me
Speaker 1: what's up with the injuries for this team. I think
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy except for well healthy no able to participate
Speaker 1: in practice and potentially play. Yes, specifically the three that
Speaker 1: were not at practice last or did not play last
Speaker 1: week in heath and would they're all out there right, yeah,
Speaker 1: back right. Layton vander esh Is is the one. And
Speaker 1: at this point, you know, it's fair to wonder if
Speaker 1: he's going to play again this year. I would lean
Speaker 1: toward no, honestly, at least not in the regular season.
Speaker 1: There's only three games left. If it's bad enough that
Speaker 1: when did he When did he When did they set
Speaker 1: him down Detroit? Yeah? Or was it before? Was it
Speaker 1: the Giants game? It was a road game. He he
Speaker 1: hurt himself against the Eagles, didn't come back against the Giants, right,
Speaker 1: and then I don't remember if he played against the
Speaker 1: Lions and play. It definitely was a road game because
Speaker 1: walking off the plane, the flat tendant said, here, can
Speaker 1: you give this neck pillow to Layton Vanderesh They ask you, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how do you always become the guy
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be doing that kind of what do
Speaker 1: you mean you got to help Tony up to podiums? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's like ten years ago, I know, but still like
Speaker 1: I got you Well, I don't know because it took
Speaker 1: me a while to get my coat on whatever. And
Speaker 1: so the flattendant was like, here's here's his neck pillow.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, he doesn't want this, would you chase
Speaker 1: him down? No? I didn't bring it to him, okay
Speaker 1: until like I brought it to work, but I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna take it in there until Wednesday of that week
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I got your neck pillow
Speaker 1: and he was it was like a kid at towards
Speaker 1: our roster was like, you've got my neck pillow. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, I'll bring it to you.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, thanks, dude's got a neck. He has
Speaker 1: not played. He played against Detroit. He has the Detroit flight.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. Um one flight wasn't four am
Speaker 1: when we got bang. It's fair to wonder if he's
Speaker 1: gonna play again this year, And I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: neck injury. Honestly, I'm not sure that he should think.
Speaker 1: You know, people saying why don't you just move him
Speaker 1: to I R because he's a really good player. And
Speaker 1: if there's even a slight chance that they think he
Speaker 1: can help them, especially if they make it to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's their thought process. But again for me,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's a neck injury and he did
Speaker 1: have issues with it in college, if the fact, I
Speaker 1: mean we've brought it up before the fact that Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett said, we don't think it's career threatening, Like, if
Speaker 1: it's even a possibility, it's okay to just call it
Speaker 1: a year. I don't think anybody's gonna blame you for
Speaker 1: that based on the injury in college. You got either
Speaker 1: of you guys know if this injury is is the
Speaker 1: same thing that's recurring or is this a different because
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you can hear neck, you can hear back,
Speaker 1: you can hear arm, and you'll talk to medical trainers
Speaker 1: and they'll tell you, hey, that's not really the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's two different injuries. Even though it's the same area,
Speaker 1: general area, it's two different issues. You guys know, if
Speaker 1: this is actually a recurrence of what was happening in college,
Speaker 1: I really don't. I honestly don't. And that's it's kind
Speaker 1: of the nature of the beast with like an NFL beat,
Speaker 1: Like there's so much stuff happening that it kind of
Speaker 1: works in a cycle like that where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's out for a while, don't need to worry about him.
Speaker 1: There's enough stuff other going enough other stuff going on,
Speaker 1: he's not going to play. And then right around now
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna miss his fourth game in a row.
Speaker 1: Probably is when people are like, Okay, how big of
Speaker 1: how big of a problem is this? And so I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Todd Archer reported earlier that they
Speaker 1: were thinking about giving him more tests, but they decided
Speaker 1: not to. So I think people are going to start
Speaker 1: looking for more information about this because again before it's like, well,
Speaker 1: he needs some time to get right and there's enough
Speaker 1: to worry about without snooping around on Layton vandersh. But this,
Speaker 1: if this is something that's going to keep him out
Speaker 1: for potentially the final six weeks of the season, then yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's something worth looking. But this is the kind
Speaker 1: of injury that it doesn't seem to be one of
Speaker 1: those where you can create a timetable for it, where
Speaker 1: it's kind of I would assume, do you feel good
Speaker 1: now or you don't? You know, you don't. You can't
Speaker 1: really when because it's like a stink what is it
Speaker 1: called stinger? I mean, this is a neck injury. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure the details of the neck injury. It's just
Speaker 1: I thought I heard something about a sting. He suffered
Speaker 1: a stinger against the Eagles, and that's what limit initiated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I you would assume, you know, around the time
Speaker 1: this happened. It was like, well, this is an after
Speaker 1: effect of what happened to him in that game. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I do not have a ton more information, but it's
Speaker 1: not like you broke your hand then you know when
Speaker 1: how long that's going to take to recover. This is
Speaker 1: one of those that it's just going to be really
Speaker 1: hard to figure out exactly when he comes back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: scary part is when you're talking about next and backs,
Speaker 1: like that's just that's never a good thing. And certainly,
Speaker 1: again I agree with you the fact that Jason actually said,
Speaker 1: there's you know, we don't think this is going to
Speaker 1: be career threatening. Fact you had to have that. The
Speaker 1: day he said that, I was like, that's a weird
Speaker 1: thing to say. It jumped out to me for a
Speaker 1: second year player, right, And so you would hope that
Speaker 1: everything's going to be fine. They just need to let
Speaker 1: this thing settle down and eventually it'll get to a
Speaker 1: point where it's okay for him to be able to
Speaker 1: resume playing, but we'll see how that goes here in
Speaker 1: the next coming weeks. Let's go and jump into these storylines.
Speaker 1: Nick walk us through some of the storylines this week.
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Rams. All right, the Rams, you know, we
Speaker 1: all kind of know where they are. They're they're starting
Speaker 1: to play like the team that you know went to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. I mean, they're not as good,
Speaker 1: I don't think, but eight and five they kind of
Speaker 1: turned things not as good as they were last year.
Speaker 1: Well the record isn't I mean, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're as good. Sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: first play, schedule, all that stuff goes into play. But
Speaker 1: they did get you know, beat forty five to seven
Speaker 1: at home by the Ravens, so that that's pretty ugly.
Speaker 1: But the last two games they've kind of turned around,
Speaker 1: big win over Seattle. One of their storyline storyline, sorry,
Speaker 1: is the fact that they are also a team that
Speaker 1: does not start really well. The last couple of games,
Speaker 1: though they have scored touchdowns early in the game. That's
Speaker 1: just the second time out of ten games or the
Speaker 1: last ten games that they've scored on the opening drive.
Speaker 1: They're getting outscored by their opponents in the first quarter
Speaker 1: for eight forty two, but they can turn it on
Speaker 1: in the second. So that's that's something. There um only
Speaker 1: ten players in the NFL this season have caught seventy
Speaker 1: passes and nine hundred receiving yards, and two of them
Speaker 1: play for the Rams, so Cooper Cup and Robert Woods
Speaker 1: also Marie Cooper doing that. So yeah, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of guys are problem. Two guys that catch and they
Speaker 1: also you know, get yards. Now, Cup has seven touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He's a red zone threat for sure. No day will
Speaker 1: talk about him. He's gonna get into also Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: and the fact that you know he's got seven hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy rushing yards. I think the biggest thing though,
Speaker 1: is that he only has one hundred and sixty eight
Speaker 1: receiving yards. He's not doing the double dual threat that
Speaker 1: we've seen from him before. And then the last storyline
Speaker 1: is if you talk about guys, you've talked about Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: He's a beast a song getting a quadruple teamed in
Speaker 1: a game the other day. He still has eleven sacks.
Speaker 1: He's only the second defensive tackle in the history of
Speaker 1: the league with four seasons of eleven sacks or more.
Speaker 1: And he's done it now three years in a row.
Speaker 1: You know, I wish, I wish fans. I wish fans
Speaker 1: could see this guy. I don't know if some of
Speaker 1: them may have see this guy without pads on, Like
Speaker 1: he is the most impressive looking, Like he's the guy
Speaker 1: you get off the best the first because he's so
Speaker 1: just big. He's a massive dude. And he's not a
Speaker 1: fat dude at all, but he's just a rat, like
Speaker 1: just a un Yeah. But he is a big guy.
Speaker 1: And and you look at defensive tackles and you usually
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be fat, They're gonna be like just
Speaker 1: rolls head. Ain't that dude? Man? He is a He
Speaker 1: is an impressive dude. I mean, you're not You're not wrong,
Speaker 1: You're absolutely not wrong. He's got like an eight pack,
Speaker 1: he's jacked, but he's like five ten yeah, And that's why,
Speaker 1: I mean, he should have been a top five pick,
Speaker 1: and his size hindered him in the eyes of value.
Speaker 1: N I want to say tenh. I mean he he
Speaker 1: absolutely he earned probably a million dollars with one play
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. You know, people think Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of sorry. Even other than that,
Speaker 1: I think Odell was tenth. There you go, so he
Speaker 1: went third, Yeah, zag Martin went sixteen. Ah yeah, well yeah, shot,
Speaker 1: the internet says he They're sitting there now together, both
Speaker 1: of them. I'm there's no question where I'm going. I
Speaker 1: gotta take Donald. Yeah, Zach's really good, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: it was actually really great. Okay, Donald's better. I mean
Speaker 1: it's better. Yeah. I mean the thing about it is
Speaker 1: you you give me, you give me a great offensive guard,
Speaker 1: and he's got to be less impactful in a game
Speaker 1: than a great defensive tackle. Right, So if you've got
Speaker 1: to split hairs between the two, I'm gonna take the
Speaker 1: great defensive tackle Andnald depends. If that great guard is
Speaker 1: facing that defensive tackle, then maybe he's not as impactful.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out Sunday though, because they're gonna face
Speaker 1: each other a few times. But how often did that
Speaker 1: happen last year? Like it? See, it didn't seem like
Speaker 1: they were messed up. A hole was Connor the he's
Speaker 1: the whisperer for Donald, He got the whisper Yeah, there
Speaker 1: we go. I can say that because he's not gonna
Speaker 1: play about to say this, Wow, Aaron Donald's gonna But
Speaker 1: the difference is we'll talk about that tomorrow. Is I mean,
Speaker 1: they don't have Sue who he was the one that
Speaker 1: really heard him. I'm sure they have someone else that's
Speaker 1: still have Mike Brocker's Who's I mean, I don't He's
Speaker 1: not Aaron Donald problem. He's not Sue. He might him
Speaker 1: and Sue might be comparable at this point. They dude,
Speaker 1: they that when you start thinking about that defense, I'm
Speaker 1: surprised they haven't been better than they are with the
Speaker 1: guys that they've had it, even the guys that they've
Speaker 1: had it throughout the year this year. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: the defense to worrow. That's to worry about tomorrow. We
Speaker 1: got way to worry about on the offense today. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 1: Day's gonna give us his breakdown on the ramps offense.
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Speaker 1: the Break, Welcome back. It is the second segment of
Speaker 1: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios.
Speaker 1: At the start, we're going to get into the rams
Speaker 1: offense and scattering port by Dave Hellman. Before we do that, though,
Speaker 1: we do have a phone call from James in California. James,
Speaker 1: what up? Hey, guys, are good? Good? It's uh cheers
Speaker 1: always Wednesday, but hoping it was Friday. But it's okay.
Speaker 1: This We're getting there. I UM, first and foremost one
Speaker 1: would like to thank you guys for giving us an opportunity,
Speaker 1: us fans a platform to vorce our opinion and concerns
Speaker 1: regarding the team and so on and so forth. UM
Speaker 1: just wanted to to see or to have your take
Speaker 1: on UM the offense, especially dak Um. I think I would.
Speaker 1: I'll take him over Carson Wentz. But the one thing
Speaker 1: that Carson Winks does that I don't see. I don't
Speaker 1: think Dack does is UM Carson Wentz always on crucial situation,
Speaker 1: he always goes and take pick out his best receiver,
Speaker 1: which UM sackers all the time. UM the good quarterbacks
Speaker 1: always do that. Like Tom Brady, crucial situation, he looks
Speaker 1: for Edelman, Um Mahomes, Kelsey, Deshaun Watson. He's he's always
Speaker 1: looking for hop against and so on and so forth,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Michael Thomas. UM. But that it seems like
Speaker 1: on crucial plays he's I don't know if it's all
Speaker 1: there as far as the read or if that was
Speaker 1: the play call. But third down crucial situation he's looking
Speaker 1: at Blake Drawin on deep pass who's being double covered
Speaker 1: by a corner in the safety, or another third down
Speaker 1: crucial situation, he's targeting the pullback all the while. I mean,
Speaker 1: those plays matters and adds up. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys can do some Jedile mind tree, just like
Speaker 1: Bill Bettletrek did with the rest with the phantom calls,
Speaker 1: the tripping calls, and on the rest, if you guys
Speaker 1: can like just yea ask the questions as far as
Speaker 1: you know, if a Marius his first read or second
Speaker 1: read or something just to see I don't know, just
Speaker 1: to have him thinking about like using his best wide
Speaker 1: out ride receiver far then any anyone else on the
Speaker 1: team effectively. All right, thanks to icall, we appreciate it. Guys.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on that well. As a fantasy owner of zach Ertz,
Speaker 1: I'll say that I don't think that Wentz goes to
Speaker 1: him as much as I as he's saying that in
Speaker 1: crucial situations. But I get the point, and I do
Speaker 1: think it comes down to what the Cowboys say all
Speaker 1: the time as we do what we do, and what
Speaker 1: they do is they like to take what's there, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna they think that jamazl Wally is a great
Speaker 1: option if he's the one that's open with a mismatch,
Speaker 1: as opposed to saying third and six, I'm gonna find
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and I think Romo would do that in
Speaker 1: years past with Whitton. And I don't know if Dak
Speaker 1: has what he can you know, what he deems to
Speaker 1: be a security blanket type receiver right now. But in
Speaker 1: order to do that well, I think they have to
Speaker 1: That has to be a part of the scheme. So
Speaker 1: if you want to get your best player the ball,
Speaker 1: you have to scheme opportunities in those situations to get
Speaker 1: him open, because the other team knows that guy's your
Speaker 1: best player as well. And so if you're just going
Speaker 1: to him and you're not doing something to get him open,
Speaker 1: then you're trusting that he's going to be able to
Speaker 1: in many instances, be able to beat a double team
Speaker 1: or sometimes three guys bracketing him. And that's not a
Speaker 1: good situation either. We saw that for many years with
Speaker 1: Diz where there was a thought of it or they
Speaker 1: forced them the ball today as well, Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: you want to have a balance, and so I think
Speaker 1: that has to go to the scheme, and the coach
Speaker 1: is saying, hey, we want to be able to find
Speaker 1: ways and create opportunities for our best players to get
Speaker 1: open and not just tell Dak find your your best player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think all of I think it can all be
Speaker 1: a little bit true. I would quibble at first, like
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys, he just named, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of other options like Carson Wentz. By the
Speaker 1: end of that Giant's game, there were no other reliable
Speaker 1: players on the field. Drew Brees, has Kamara and Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas like quick name the next Saints receiver behind him?
Speaker 1: Meet him? Uh Ted Ted gets well? They all have
Speaker 1: good games because there ye Dever Anderson, great guys, Trey
Speaker 1: Quan Smith and Ted Ginn or the answers, but like,
Speaker 1: these are not game breaking receivers. And honestly, I would
Speaker 1: argue we always say, like we've we've talked about it before,
Speaker 1: like is Dak that type of Drew Brees quarterback at
Speaker 1: this point in his career who can put it on
Speaker 1: his guy always wherever he wants it, you know, throw
Speaker 1: open the back, shoulder, fade, all that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: He can do it at times, but can he do
Speaker 1: it reliably? And so I don't like the idea of
Speaker 1: Dak forcing balls to Amari Cooper no matter what I agree,
Speaker 1: I think Dak would tell you his favorite receiver is
Speaker 1: whoever's open. And then that comes back to yes, scheme
Speaker 1: scheming looks that get Amar open sounds great. Throwing it
Speaker 1: to the fullback who's playing ten percent of the snaps
Speaker 1: on the season on fourth down. I don't like it
Speaker 1: at all. And you know people have been going back
Speaker 1: and forth, Well, Jamay's ran the wrong route. That's not
Speaker 1: Dak's fault. Okay, just don't run that play. And I
Speaker 1: like Tony Pollard wasn't there, he wasn't playing in that game,
Speaker 1: and Zeke needed a blow. That's fine. I don't like
Speaker 1: the idea of like that being your primary look on
Speaker 1: fourth down. When jamay'zla Walle disappeared from this offense after
Speaker 1: Week one, he played twenty played twenty snaps, average twenty
Speaker 1: snaps a game first three weeks of the season. He
Speaker 1: has rarely gone over ten since then per game. I
Speaker 1: just I think that's ridiculous that that's you know, and
Speaker 1: I get I mean, they're all pros. Make the catch,
Speaker 1: run the right route. I get that, but like, let's
Speaker 1: work with the guys that Dak has the experience with
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb was open on that play. He might not
Speaker 1: have been the first read, but go to the guys
Speaker 1: that have done it for you. And it's stuff like
Speaker 1: that that drives me crazy, not so much that he's
Speaker 1: not just trying to feed a Mara Cooper, I mean
Speaker 1: a Mari's gonna finish with like ninety catches this year.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Well. And to add to that, to
Speaker 1: your point me personally, I don't trust this offense to
Speaker 1: handle injuries. So for example, if a Marie Cooper Versee
Speaker 1: has to miss another game, it's like, I don't trust
Speaker 1: Dak to find back that comfort of being able to
Speaker 1: connect with other receivers. We've seen him do it, you know,
Speaker 1: when he divides it up and throws it to Randol
Speaker 1: and that works. But I think that when this offense
Speaker 1: all of a sudden has to miss a key element,
Speaker 1: they just freak out and don't really know how to
Speaker 1: handle that or how to adjust to that. So if
Speaker 1: you were to do that, then that creates, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: a bigger problem for when a bad time comes where
Speaker 1: you need to readjust and find other options. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think that's a good point because you're right. If you're
Speaker 1: if you're relying on your best player that much, then
Speaker 1: what happens when he's not there? And we saw this
Speaker 1: year that can happen. It happened in the Jets game,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't expected to happen. You just had an
Speaker 1: injury there early and he's out, and so how do
Speaker 1: you adjust when you're relying on that In those kinds
Speaker 1: of situations, I much prefer the Hey, find me the
Speaker 1: open guy, and if you want a scheme, guy's open scheme.
Speaker 1: I'm open, but always go to the open guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that we talked about this, I think before
Speaker 1: you got here the other day that the Jets game
Speaker 1: is no longer the one where you're like, they, you know,
Speaker 1: lose to the Jets. I mean, because the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: about to be the same record as the Jets. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look as it doesn't look as awful right
Speaker 1: now because you thought they were going to be a
Speaker 1: top three pick and all of a sudden they're find
Speaker 1: ways to win football game. Yes, their clutch, Actually they
Speaker 1: win games in the clutch. All right, let's go ahead.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead, and it just sounds weird. Let's just
Speaker 1: go ahead and jump to the Jets clutch. That sounds weird. Um,
Speaker 1: let's go and jump to the scattering report. Dave tell
Speaker 1: us about this Los Angeles Rams offense. You alluded to it. Um,
Speaker 1: they they they haven't been good for a pretty large
Speaker 1: chunk of the season, but it seems like they are
Speaker 1: rounding into form at the right time. I think a
Speaker 1: big part of that is their offensive line. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about injuries and nobody feels sorry for you,
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. The rams O line has been a disaster
Speaker 1: this year, and not just in terms of like players
Speaker 1: not playing up to their potential. They haven't been healthy.
Speaker 1: I read this this morning. They've only have one original
Speaker 1: starter playing his original position from week one. That's Andrew Whitworth.
Speaker 1: Who's you know, he's forty, he's good. He'd made the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl last year. He hasn't played up to the
Speaker 1: expectations he's set though, because you know, people thought his
Speaker 1: career was kind of done. He goes to LA he
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. He hasn't been playing on that level.
Speaker 1: It seems like he's playing better. But they lost Joseph
Speaker 1: noe Boom early in the season. They lost Rob Havenstein
Speaker 1: their right tackle early in the season. They had to
Speaker 1: trade for Austin Corbett. They had to move their left guard,
Speaker 1: Austin Blythe to center. They've had rookies starting at right
Speaker 1: guard and right tackle for most of the season, so
Speaker 1: it's it's been pretty rough, and it looks like they've
Speaker 1: kind of found a way to make it work. I
Speaker 1: think Havenstein should be available for this game. It sounds like,
Speaker 1: so you know, the Cowboys have caught breaks all season
Speaker 1: that's going in the opposite direction where he'll be in
Speaker 1: the lineup playing against the law most likely. Another big
Speaker 1: part of that is I think they've found out what
Speaker 1: they have in their tight end position. They've got a
Speaker 1: couple of pretty good ones. And I mean you've heard
Speaker 1: you probably have heard of Tyler Higbee. I mean, we
Speaker 1: just played this team in January's He's much better than
Speaker 1: I give him credit for or one using him. Well,
Speaker 1: now they are, and it's kind of amazing what you
Speaker 1: can do when you have tight ends who can do
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. Because they are mauling guys
Speaker 1: with twelve personnel, with Higbee and another guy by the
Speaker 1: name of Johnny Munt who I never I had not
Speaker 1: heard of him yet, ugly gross last name mut Munt.
Speaker 1: I think I'm pronouncing that right. There's really not much
Speaker 1: you can do about that, No, there's not. There's not
Speaker 1: five somebody can't control. They block well, and Higbee Higbee
Speaker 1: is he's like I watched the Seahawks game back, and like,
Speaker 1: that's what I came away most impressed with, because, like,
Speaker 1: I know, I know about Robert Woods, I know about
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, I know about Todd Gurley, but he's mauling
Speaker 1: people in the running game and going down field like
Speaker 1: catching the ball ten twelve fifteen, fourth round in twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen by the Rams, fourth round. H but I mean
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen though, I think, I mean, unless Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick. Yeah, I was. I wasn't
Speaker 1: even well I was, I was gonna say, I mean,
Speaker 1: unless you're drafting like a T. J. Hockinson, like this
Speaker 1: ready made top ten tight end, it can take two
Speaker 1: three years for a guy to develop a good player, which, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mean Dalton Schultz, you should should be the
Speaker 1: arrow should have moved a little bit off the ground
Speaker 1: by now. Let's not make this his show. No, you're right,
Speaker 1: you're a point. But that so and so they are
Speaker 1: rediscovering their run game because their tight ends are helping
Speaker 1: offset their offensive line. Um, girlie's been playing well these
Speaker 1: last two weeks. Sean McVay had a great one liner
Speaker 1: last week where somebody was like, well, why you know
Speaker 1: why's girlies have been so involved the last two weeks?
Speaker 1: And McVeigh was like, because I decided to stop being
Speaker 1: an idiot and get my you know, best player involved.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Um, so they remember when Garrett said
Speaker 1: that one time? I literally I heard that and I
Speaker 1: was like, imagine, imagine having a head coach who would
Speaker 1: like provide a funny, good headline for you just but honestly,
Speaker 1: there's more to it than that. It's not just that
Speaker 1: it's just saying, you know what, we were well, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're right, the arrogant level that, yeah, it has to
Speaker 1: just drop a little bit and be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: we've been doing some different things, get back to basics here.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. Coach saying the same thing
Speaker 1: or similar thing a week or two ago, and I
Speaker 1: was thinking the same thing, like, it's kind of refreshing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of refreshing to hear and just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a guy doing some stuff. We said, you
Speaker 1: know what, this stuff works, Let's just go and run
Speaker 1: the ball and get girly involved. Which actually it's it's
Speaker 1: another great point because you know, the Rams got famous
Speaker 1: last year because it was like ninety five percent of
Speaker 1: the time it's eleven personnel. It's the same three receivers.
Speaker 1: They don't change. They just they're good at it and
Speaker 1: that's what they do well. They're adjusting for their deficiencies
Speaker 1: this year because they're all the way up to twenty
Speaker 1: percent twelve personnel. Like they use it a lot because
Speaker 1: they have a good, versatile tight end and and a
Speaker 1: great running back. So it's working for them. Their receivers
Speaker 1: are scary because their versatile Cup and Woods and Cooks
Speaker 1: can all line up anywhere. I mean good receivers can,
Speaker 1: but they do it a lot. You see Woods, Woods
Speaker 1: lines up in the slot, he lines up outside. I
Speaker 1: think Woods is Golf's guy. I know, I know Cup
Speaker 1: and him both have seventy plus catches, like you said,
Speaker 1: but it seems like Woods is to the caller's point,
Speaker 1: Woods is like the guy he's looking for. You know.
Speaker 1: He's one of the most wide receivers in the NFL's
Speaker 1: in the red zone and the red zone. Yeah, Cooper Cup,
Speaker 1: I mean I saw a stat the other day. I
Speaker 1: have to look at it closer, but it was like
Speaker 1: the first forty games of your career, the number one
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL history, of touchdown catches is Randy Boss.
Speaker 1: Number two is Cooper cup Wow. Yeah he's stud and
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a ton of catches to go with it.
Speaker 1: In yards, he just goes down there and he just s.
Speaker 1: He's a great route runner. The guy that you guys
Speaker 1: loved on the draft show. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to pat myself on the back back, I but loved
Speaker 1: no He. I loved break I know the right man.
Speaker 1: I mean I've liked I liked Laquon Treadwell too, and
Speaker 1: that didn't work out for But yeah, we all have
Speaker 1: some good ones and some batt ones, right he It
Speaker 1: was just if you win Hester, remember that way back then,
Speaker 1: I was like, draft Hester, gotta have him. You were
Speaker 1: kind of right, but I don't I think I wanted
Speaker 1: to play him at offense. I don't care. You would
Speaker 1: have been right. Yeah, he's just I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: a mismatch. I mean, he's a big bodied guy. Who's
Speaker 1: I mean like he's got slot receiver shiftiness in a
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson type of body. He's he's really talented. I
Speaker 1: mean he's he's not small, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll pull up his measurables. Yeah, he's like six three.
Speaker 1: I want to say, really, yeah, for some reason I
Speaker 1: thought he was a six to two hundred, like he
Speaker 1: is not a I mean, yeah, he's not a se
Speaker 1: D It's okay. No, when you see a slot guy,
Speaker 1: you assume slot guys are gonna be a little smaller,
Speaker 1: and you know he's not a gym rat student of
Speaker 1: the game. No super smart slot receiver. I mean, halten,
Speaker 1: do you slot receiver? I mean he's not like that's
Speaker 1: He's a different. Receivers that are big like he usually
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. He different, He's a different breed. Um, he's
Speaker 1: a good player. I put words in a mud because
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. I don't. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: keep us on this on the rail series. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jared Goff is that good. I don't
Speaker 1: say it again. I don't think that was some conviction.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that good. I don't. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I was needing a headline title for this show. He
Speaker 1: got one. Jared Goff isn't that good. He's fine, He's fine.
Speaker 1: He clearly, I mean, he got him to a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He's he's you know, he's played well enough that you
Speaker 1: gotta keep him. I mean, you're not gonna start over
Speaker 1: like Jared Goff can win you games. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's he's completing twenty seven percent of
Speaker 1: his deep balls. He's I don't think he's a great
Speaker 1: decision maker. He's he's throwing fifteen touchdowns and fourteen picks both.
Speaker 1: He threw two picks in this Seahawks game, one which
Speaker 1: was returned for a touchdown by Quandre Diggs, which you know,
Speaker 1: get like we dissect everything Dak Prescott does and like
Speaker 1: nobody else misses open receivers is off and as Dak well,
Speaker 1: I watched Jared Goff just sail a crossing route like
Speaker 1: literally went two yards passed and one yard high on
Speaker 1: the receiver and right into Quandre digs his hands and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh damn, yes, thanks, touchdown. I never saw
Speaker 1: anyone else in the picture, but it's it almost like
Speaker 1: he was the receiver. I mean it really did. Like
Speaker 1: if it's if the receiver's reaching his hands out over
Speaker 1: the middle, the ball was up here. He's like, oh
Speaker 1: well I was down here, Jared, what were you throwing
Speaker 1: one of those where you think it's got to be
Speaker 1: to somebody else. Yeah, where was the other guy was?
Speaker 1: To me? Which and I'm not trying to kill Jared
Speaker 1: Goff because that stuff happens, But if you listen to
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans, it doesn't like it only happens to Dak Prescott. Yeah. Um, Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was watching the game, like on replay and was
Speaker 1: looking at some of the things that he's able to do. One,
Speaker 1: he can at times, he can get rid of the
Speaker 1: ball pretty quickly and still connect with his receiver or no,
Speaker 1: go Okay, he can get out of the pocket quickly
Speaker 1: and still make a decision, and yes he makes mistakes.
Speaker 1: But facing this Cowboys defensive line and the way they've
Speaker 1: been playing, I started thinking, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he can be really really good in this game going
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, because if he's well, he played against Seattle.
Speaker 1: But even then, the fact that he was able to
Speaker 1: do those kinds of things there in that game, it
Speaker 1: started making me think about, oh boy, what is this
Speaker 1: gonna look like when they're facing this Cowboys defensive line.
Speaker 1: I absolutely don't disagree, and I just I just kind
Speaker 1: of crapped on him, But I mean he's a talented
Speaker 1: player like he is, and for ever, for every what
Speaker 1: the hell was that? There's you know, he had a
Speaker 1: play rolling out where he found Woods, the coverage was
Speaker 1: good and he just rifled it in there. I mean
Speaker 1: he was the number one pick for a reason. He
Speaker 1: certainly can make plays, I question, and his decision making
Speaker 1: and his accuracy is not outstanding, not by NFL standards,
Speaker 1: But can the pass rush get to him? Can the
Speaker 1: Cowboys cornerbacks cover these guys? I mean we just talked
Speaker 1: about you know, Robert Woods and Cooper Cup can both
Speaker 1: play in the slot. They're both big, and I mean
Speaker 1: that sounds like a problem for Jordan Lewis, honestly. And
Speaker 1: that's the other thing is Sean mcfay smart. He schemes
Speaker 1: easy throws for this guy all the time, like lots
Speaker 1: of crossing routes, lots of you see, like so many
Speaker 1: like layer concepts where there's a short option, an intermediate option.
Speaker 1: I know that's obvious, but they do it all the
Speaker 1: time where it's kind of like, okay, roll out and
Speaker 1: whichever one looks the most appealing, hit him, and there's
Speaker 1: it's five yards, twelve yards and eighteen yards. It happens
Speaker 1: all the time, and they're not hard throws by NFL standards.
Speaker 1: So having said that, I don't think he's amazing. He's
Speaker 1: certainly good enough to hurt these guys because Jeff Driscoll did,
Speaker 1: and at Mitch Drubisky, the key took off is the
Speaker 1: fact that he has the coach that he has. I
Speaker 1: think that always have to factor that into a quarterback
Speaker 1: because I think the better the coach, the more that
Speaker 1: you can hide some of those deficiencies and give them
Speaker 1: opportunities to succeed based upon what they do well. Because
Speaker 1: he definitely does have some talent, definitely has armed talent
Speaker 1: and can do a lot of things. Maybe you just
Speaker 1: hide some of those things he doesn't do so well.
Speaker 1: Let's go. But if the last two weeks or any indicator,
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna try to set it up with
Speaker 1: Gurly though and that, and then I mean it looks
Speaker 1: like he's he should be fresh. He's only got one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy carries on the year. And how much
Speaker 1: is that scare you? Knowing? How how tough the cowblt
Speaker 1: have so much, so much they don't I mean, good
Speaker 1: running backs have killed them Sony Michelle is like the
Speaker 1: only really good running back that they had. A lot
Speaker 1: of bad running backs have had. I shouldn't say bad,
Speaker 1: but average running backs have had decent days against them.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I mean, I'm but I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. Yeah, I'm thinking about both scarbro Yeah, who
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't He's not even a decent level yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had it. He had some good runs. Like
Speaker 1: running backs have had good days against Ronnie. We leave that.
Speaker 1: So that does that? Should I think that should scare
Speaker 1: everyone going into this game for sure. All Right, we're
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Speaker 1: calls eight five, two two nine seven. We have a
Speaker 1: call from Sean and North Carolina. Sean, what up, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: how's it going? All right? I would just um had
Speaker 1: a few observations, but you guys can touch on a little.
Speaker 1: But um, I feel like, um, these guys, like it's
Speaker 1: just basic things, like just like fundamentals and stuff that
Speaker 1: you know is trouble and this team and I know
Speaker 1: coaching takes a lot of flatcoard and everything, but like
Speaker 1: you have guys, listen, tackles, you got lanes and gap
Speaker 1: INTEGRITYESH receivers dropping balls. You know you can here like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm listening and watching you guys, uh sound
Speaker 1: from the sidelines and you can hear Mary Nelly basically saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, time's gonna have to say the
Speaker 1: same thing. You know, I mean, these guys, your best guys,
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence, you know, for se just watching him
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago against uh Alan and you know,
Speaker 1: same thing with Trabinsky. You know, these guys doing us
Speaker 1: read option and I'm just like, how many times he goes,
Speaker 1: you know, bite down and tackles the guy without the
Speaker 1: ball and watch the quarterback roll outside and there's no
Speaker 1: contain you know. And um, that's just one thing. Another thing.
Speaker 1: You know, this team preaches about having the right kind
Speaker 1: of guys. Well, I just want to know, dude, we
Speaker 1: got the right kind of right kind of guys? Because yeah, okay, um,
Speaker 1: can I tell you this that as saying all this,
Speaker 1: like the first part of it, in my mind, I
Speaker 1: was questioning, do the Cowboys have the right kind of guys?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's seriously what I was thinking. So here's
Speaker 1: the question, though, when you say that, what do you
Speaker 1: mean by the right kind of guys? Because I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different interpretations of what that means.
Speaker 1: Is that really good players? Is that guys that love football?
Speaker 1: Is that guy? Like, there's a lot of different ways
Speaker 1: you can dice that they don't have enough guys that
Speaker 1: are good enough to win. Okay, So right kind of
Speaker 1: guy for you is about ability? Yep, And that's the
Speaker 1: that's the right kind of guy for every coach in
Speaker 1: the NFL, because I don't care what they say about
Speaker 1: the right kind of guy. If he's KP and Kant play,
Speaker 1: they're not going to use them. I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: that's not the right kind of guy. Right kind of guy?
Speaker 1: Line one is playing well in the NFL. Line two
Speaker 1: through nine, they'll figure it out depending on how in
Speaker 1: line one goes. I completely agree with you. But but
Speaker 1: I again and again and again think that a lot
Speaker 1: of the guys on this team are talented, which makes
Speaker 1: me wonder, are are there guys on this team that
Speaker 1: aren't is just consumed by being great at football as others?
Speaker 1: Is it a motivation issue? And I think that's a
Speaker 1: fair thing to wonder right now with the way that
Speaker 1: they've played and the way that they've lost some of
Speaker 1: these games. I mean, and the message that they're getting, yeah,
Speaker 1: is the same. I guess, you know, like that's what
Speaker 1: it is like, because I don't think I don't think
Speaker 1: the coaching staff is all of a sudden it's not
Speaker 1: a good staff, but I just think it's all kind
Speaker 1: of come to a head where the message and how
Speaker 1: he delivers it is this constant and at this point
Speaker 1: it's just I think these guys are probably tired of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do wonder if they're winning on Wednesay, Thursday, and Friday.
Speaker 1: We talk about that. We've talked about that a lot
Speaker 1: on this show over the years of you know, you
Speaker 1: can say the talent is one thing, and going out
Speaker 1: there and competing. They go out there, they compete hard.
Speaker 1: But if you're not, if you don't have that same
Speaker 1: level of enthusiasm and commitment on Wednesay, Thursday, Friday to prepare,
Speaker 1: then it'll show up at points in games when you
Speaker 1: just don't know what's going to happen, don't have a
Speaker 1: good enough read on your opponent because you maybe didn't
Speaker 1: study enough, or maybe your body's just not prepared because
Speaker 1: you didn't take good enough care of your body to
Speaker 1: be able to have that push in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: when you're tired. Right, there's lots of things that are
Speaker 1: about what you do on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday that
Speaker 1: ultimately lead to success on Sundays, and all those things,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, are fair right now because of the
Speaker 1: way they're playing. Yeah, I mean, it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to think you are winning during the week when again,
Speaker 1: I mean the Chicago offense sucks like it's so bad,
Speaker 1: and they looked and Truebisky wasn't you know, he wasn't
Speaker 1: throwing dimes. He's like I think I read he was
Speaker 1: averaging like three and a half air yards per completion,
Speaker 1: which means he wasn't throwing the ball downfield. And it
Speaker 1: didn't matter because tight end screens and checkdowns to quarterrel
Speaker 1: Patterson are going through for thirty five yards. You have
Speaker 1: four straight scoring drives when you've been that bad all year,
Speaker 1: and that's an indictment of any defense that allows it.
Speaker 1: And it may just like, how well are y'all actually
Speaker 1: preparing for this stuff when this is happening totally, And
Speaker 1: you know, I do think that, you know, I've said
Speaker 1: it before about the talent, I don't think these players
Speaker 1: are as good as they as they as we thought
Speaker 1: they were. I definitely don't think they're as good as
Speaker 1: as the coaching staff thinks they are because I think
Speaker 1: that they continue to do what we do with these
Speaker 1: guys and it doesn't work. And again, I put a
Speaker 1: lot of it on the players, but it is very
Speaker 1: clear that the coaching staff is getting out coached in
Speaker 1: in these other games to these other staffs, because as
Speaker 1: soon as you say we're going to do what we do,
Speaker 1: you can just hear the coaches on the other side
Speaker 1: just rubbing their hands together, like, all right, we know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. What if we did this, Because
Speaker 1: we know what they're gonna do, They're gonna do it now.
Speaker 1: Like I love I love it. I agree with everything
Speaker 1: you said. You said it in a funny way. They're
Speaker 1: getting out coached. They're getting out coached. And it's not
Speaker 1: just Jason, it's the other it's the scheme, it's all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. And you know when when you can't
Speaker 1: stop Jeff Jeff Driscoll from running and Mitchell Trubisky, you
Speaker 1: know those guys like that, I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just that they just don't have an answer for It's
Speaker 1: really when it's the same common theme. Right when you
Speaker 1: got these quarterbacks that are just rushing for all these
Speaker 1: yards that, by the way, aren't guys that necessarily are
Speaker 1: doing it to anybody else, and you're not going into
Speaker 1: the game saying, Okay, we know this is a deficiency
Speaker 1: from last week. We have to make that a priority
Speaker 1: to stop it this week, and then the same thing happens,
Speaker 1: right that's the part that that works. Here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Like I've seen a lot of college football games, a lot,
Speaker 1: and I've seen I've been on both sides over where
Speaker 1: this team's gonna be. You know, you haven't you're playing
Speaker 1: a team that they're not gonna beat you tonight, you know.
Speaker 1: But the first play of the game says a triple
Speaker 1: reverse passed to the receiver back to the quarterback and
Speaker 1: he throws it over here to the running back and
Speaker 1: they get fifty yards. And you're like, all right, well
Speaker 1: that was a good play, but you're not gonna win.
Speaker 1: And you know you're not gonna win because you had
Speaker 1: to do that on the first play to tell your
Speaker 1: guys we're gonna do this. But you really know you
Speaker 1: can't win because you had to do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: At least they're trying, though, See the Cowboys, I don't
Speaker 1: think they the Cowboys like we're taking the ball to
Speaker 1: start the game, we're gonna go, we're gonna score and
Speaker 1: all that. Like they think they're gonna win, but I
Speaker 1: don't believe that they have the talent to do it.
Speaker 1: So when do they figure out? When does the talent
Speaker 1: isn't playing up to part to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: Okay either way, I mean, it's the results the same.
Speaker 1: So when are they gonna when are they gonna flip
Speaker 1: the switch and go we can't beat the Rams like this.
Speaker 1: We need to do different things. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you have to run trick plays, but trick plays or
Speaker 1: show you that you're gonna try to go into the
Speaker 1: bag a little bit to do some different things. And
Speaker 1: this team doesn't. They're just like, we're gonna keep doing
Speaker 1: this because we have done it in the past, not
Speaker 1: against a winning team, but they've done you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Where it's like, yes, that's where
Speaker 1: the arrogance comes into play. Okay, we're not good enough
Speaker 1: to beat them. And like Jason's first year when when
Speaker 1: they were two one and seven and then he took over,
Speaker 1: they played games against the Saints and the Eagles that
Speaker 1: were they were really good teams that year. They didn't
Speaker 1: win the games, but they hung in there. They almost
Speaker 1: won the Saints. They probably should have won that Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: Day game, but they played a different way where they
Speaker 1: had to slow everything down because they knew their defense
Speaker 1: was terrible. Slow down. We get into drives right, he
Speaker 1: just ran ran norm rambling. All I'm saying this is
Speaker 1: that there's there's You have to at some point realize, okay,
Speaker 1: almost cussed. This stuff isn't working. And because it's not stuff,
Speaker 1: it's the other one and it's not working. So do
Speaker 1: something different, take your ego, put it over here, and
Speaker 1: try to win the game. All right, guys, appreciate you
Speaker 1: joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna talk defense tomorrow,
Speaker 1: that Rams defense. You think the offense is good, We
Speaker 1: got some dusies for you tomorrow. We'll talk about that
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