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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back George Noriy along with Jim Harold. His

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Speaker 2: websites are linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com. He's

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Speaker 2: got a few podcasts. How do people hear your podcast, Jim? Well,

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Speaker 2: pretty much anywhere you can listen or watch. We really

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Speaker 2: rolled out video in the last year or so, more

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Speaker 2: so Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, iHeartRadio, all the.

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Speaker 3: Major podcast apps. We're pretty much everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Excellent. Let's talk a few stories. Some of your favorites.

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Speaker 2: What are they?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to start with one that has a

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Speaker 4: Coast to Coast AM and a George Norri tie in.

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Speaker 4: So this was from Mary from Texas. You know, her

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Speaker 4: son was a toddler and was just starting to talk,

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Speaker 4: and she traveled a lot for work, and often she

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Speaker 4: would come back home late at night. Now, one night

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Speaker 4: she was driving home and she was tuning into none

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Speaker 4: other than Coast to Coast AM with George nor and

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Speaker 4: you were talking about reptilians with a guest, and you know,

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Speaker 4: she found it to be pretty compelling. She thought, hmm,

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Speaker 4: maybe there is something to this reptilian thing. So over

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Speaker 4: dinner the next day, she's telling her husband about the

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Speaker 4: show and the guest and the reptilians and the evidence

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Speaker 4: that was presented, and her husband was very skeptical. He said, if.

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Speaker 3: That's true, why haven't they shown.

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Speaker 4: Themselves to us? And her little toddler is sitting there

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Speaker 4: and he looks up and he said, people not ready yet,

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Speaker 4: And then he went back to his veggies. Yeah, people

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Speaker 4: not ready And she said, you know, he was kind

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Speaker 4: of not really, he was kind of jabberin usually yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: people not ready yet. Now, he never referred to it again.

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Speaker 4: He didn't remember it. And when Mary called him from

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Speaker 4: Texas a few years ago and told this story, he

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Speaker 4: was fifteen years old and a complete skeptic, the boy,

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Speaker 4: that is. But I just thought that was really a

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Speaker 4: great story. They had a coast to coast am tie in,

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Speaker 4: and it does make you think it's even.

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Speaker 3: Like the ets were speaking through him. Yeah, is it

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Speaker 3: wasn't that weird?

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Speaker 4: I just I always remembered that one, and I was

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Speaker 4: got to chuckle out of that strange.

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Speaker 3: Do you get many calls about the devil.

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Speaker 4: Some one that comes to mind actually ties in with

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Speaker 4: the wija board. And this goes back many years. This

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Speaker 4: is one of the very first calls we got, I think,

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Speaker 4: and it was in my first book. So these teenage

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Speaker 4: girls were playing with the wija board, okay, and they said,

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Speaker 4: you know if and they were getting these communications, but

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Speaker 4: they were like, oh, this is just you know, this

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Speaker 4: is just us accidentally moving the plant chat or whatever

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Speaker 4: the little thing you moved.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they.

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Speaker 4: Said, well, if there's really proof, give me proof. And

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Speaker 4: they had a little lava lamp. You know those lava

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Speaker 4: lamps with the glop in the middle that used to

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Speaker 4: be real popular. So anyway, they start looking at this

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Speaker 4: a face and they keep forming from them. It turns

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Speaker 4: into a face of a devil. And they shut the

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Speaker 4: wage aboard as soon as they see this, and all

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Speaker 4: the lights go off, and.

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Speaker 3: That's a devil call.

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Speaker 4: So you know, the thing is, I don't think we

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Speaker 4: get a lot of calls specifically about the devil, but

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Speaker 4: I believe the devil is real. I believe evil is real.

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Speaker 4: I mean I'll talk to some of my new age

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Speaker 4: I believe there's good, and I believe that there's evil,

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Speaker 4: and some people call that the devil, but I believe

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Speaker 4: the more sinister energies are real for sure.

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Speaker 3: Jim, in your twenty years of podcasting, have you seen

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Speaker 3: changes along the line in terms of story.

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Speaker 4: I think people are more willing to share them, and

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Speaker 4: I think the Coast to Coast am deserves a lot

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Speaker 4: of credit for that, and maybe people who listen to

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Speaker 4: my show a teeny tiny piece of credit for that

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Speaker 4: and shows like it. I think people are more willing

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Speaker 4: willing to share different kinds of stories. Like if somebody

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Speaker 4: more apprehensive to share that because it seems like there's

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Speaker 4: this ranking of credibility and it's unfortunate. I think people

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Speaker 4: the reluctance so but I think a willingness to share

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Speaker 3: Get many spiritual type stories? Oh yes, oh yes.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I was saying before, was is that

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Speaker 4: I'm just as likely to get a story of a

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Speaker 3: I've gotten many.

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Speaker 4: Stories of people maybe being saved by a potential angel,

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Speaker 4: So we get those too, and I think that's important.

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Speaker 3: I kind of look at it. You know, I'm going.

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Speaker 4: To give you your spooky, scary stories. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 4: those to you, don't worry, But I'm going to put

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Speaker 4: in your vegetables, and your vegetables are those kind of

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Speaker 4: spiritual stories, those sweet stories, those affirming stories, because I

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Speaker 2: In your early days of podcasting, How has it changed

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Speaker 2: since today?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Well, I remember I used to work

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Speaker 4: for I don't want to give a way too much

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Speaker 4: big muckety MUCKs, and I said, you know, guys, this

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Speaker 3: I'm doing it on the side for fun.

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Speaker 4: At that point, it was for fun, and this is

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Speaker 4: that's nice, go sell another banner ad. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 4: It's all the equipment now is so much better. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the whole thing. I mean, the equipment has

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Speaker 4: how far it's taken off. But it does make it

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Speaker 4: harder to be discovered in podcasting. I was very lucky

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Speaker 4: how did you handle the technical end at that time?

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Speaker 4: I was always a tech techie. I was always a

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Speaker 4: I googled everything, I looked things up. I just figured

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Speaker 4: you know, But I mean when we and you'll remember this,

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Speaker 4: when I went to school for broadcasting, it was basically,

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Speaker 3: But I grew up, and it's really kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: I grew up with two loves, the paranormal and broadcasting,

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Speaker 4: and I always admired people like you and like art

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Speaker 3: Bob Barker was a big favorite of mine.

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Speaker 4: I was always fascinated by broadcasting, and in college when

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Speaker 4: people would talk about broadcasting history, all the other kids

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Speaker 4: the NBC Red and Blue net that works, please. So

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Speaker 3: So I just had this drive. I'm going to figure

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Speaker 4: And you know, there are people who figured it out

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Speaker 4: better than me, Joe Rogan, but honestly, not bad for

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Speaker 2: Kind of reminds me at its peak. In two thousand

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Speaker 4: Netflix went to Blockbuster and they wanted to join forces

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Speaker 3: So we see what happened. But I will say this,

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Speaker 4: About radio that is irreplaceable, traditional radio. I am still

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Speaker 4: believe there's a huge place for traditional radio that podcasting

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Speaker 4: can never replace. But podcasting has some things that the

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Speaker 3: So radio is here to stay. In my mind.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's one of the reasons I'm such a proponent

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, yes, yes, it's a huge market.

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Speaker 2: We've got so many truck drivers out there and late

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Speaker 3: Just drive around. That's right, that's right. I've had listeners

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Speaker 3: Jim who stay in their.

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Speaker 4: Driveway, Oh, driveway moments. Absolutely, my daughter does that. My

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Speaker 4: finishing up this good segment. Absolutely, it's very audio is

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Speaker 4: mean you're a student of history, broadcast history. How in

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Speaker 4: And I think the podcasting has helped bring a renaissance

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Speaker 4: fantastic and your video's great, but audio can do things

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Speaker 3: And in podcast.

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Speaker 2: We have the Paranormal Podcast Network and yours is called

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Speaker 2: the Paranormal Podcast. Yes, so we're close.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I actually I trademarked the name of the

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Speaker 4: Paranormal Podcast because it was such a good name. In

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Speaker 4: there were some other shows before me, some paranormal shows,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, it's paranormal, it's a podcast, and

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Speaker 4: they didn't. And I think that really helped me because

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Speaker 4: when people google paranormal podcast that I'm what came up

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Speaker 4: and still rank pretty high for that term. So it

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Speaker 4: actually ended up being a really happy accident.

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Speaker 3: Good for you. Tell us another story.

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Speaker 4: This is actually one I just took in today, and

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Speaker 4: this is one of those spooky, scary ones, and I'm

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Speaker 4: going to air this on Thursday's show. This was Lane

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Speaker 4: from New Mexico and he had worked the evening shift

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Speaker 4: at a hotel out there and a couple checked in

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Speaker 4: one night and Lane was the desk clerk and help

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Speaker 4: them and after that, you know, his shift ended, somebody

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Speaker 4: else took over and He went home, and about three

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Speaker 4: crews on site. Unfortunately, a violent incident had occurred and

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Speaker 4: one of those guests had been murdered. Yeah, really really

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Speaker 4: sad stuff. And before dying, this victim had run down

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Speaker 4: the hallway banging on the doors for help. Unfortunately no

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Speaker 4: one helped them. The person ended up dying in an elevator.

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Speaker 4: So whatever attack had happened, my interpretation was the person

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Speaker 4: ended up going in the elevator and expiring in the elevator.

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Speaker 4: The hotel brought in the professionals to clean the scene.

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Speaker 4: A month later, guests began reporting eerie disturbances. Around two

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Speaker 4: thirty am. Someone would be banging on their doors asking

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Speaker 4: for help. They would open the door, no one was there.

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Speaker 4: Other people in the room right next to this couple

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Speaker 4: where this happened said their alarm clock would go off

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Speaker 4: nightly at two thirty. So Lane, one of the hotel employees,

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Speaker 4: he checked the clock. He found no alarm set kept happening.

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Speaker 4: Eventually he said, I'll fix it. I'll unplug it. The

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Speaker 4: alarm still went off. One day, while working across the hall,

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Speaker 4: Lane had a radio. They have radio so they can

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Speaker 4: communicate with other people on site. He heard strained silence

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Speaker 4: said I'm still alive.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: His radio had switched itself to an unused channel. Lane

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Speaker 4: no response after that. The elevator where the man died,

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Speaker 4: it behaves strangely. It I always stopped if Lane was

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Speaker 4: going up to the third floor, it would stop midway.

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Speaker 4: But Lane finally would start talking to the spirit when

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Speaker 4: this kind of connection with him is because Lane that

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Speaker 4: be sure to check in with Lane, and Lane would

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Speaker 4: be glad to help him. And he thinks he forged

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Speaker 4: that connection with that ghost and it's continued to go

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Speaker 4: on that's probably the most eerie story we've heard this year,

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Speaker 4: and literally recorded it, you know, less than twenty four

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Speaker 4: hours ago, and I had to share that one, so

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Speaker 4: that one debuted here before it was even on the

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Speaker 4: the show, because I just thought that was remarkable.

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