WEBVTT - Fallout Season 2, Episode 3

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for Fallout episode three, season two.

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<v Speaker 2>Be warned, be warned.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosey Night

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome back to Extra vision of the podcast where

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<v Speaker 1>we dive deep into your faverit Joe's Movies, comics of

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture, Company from My Heart podcast Where Were You?

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<v Speaker 1>Three episodes a week, plus news.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus news, and today we're going.

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<v Speaker 3>Back into the wastelands to see some friends, some enemies,

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<v Speaker 3>some foes, some action in another great episode of Fallout

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<v Speaker 3>two ou three, which we will recap beginning now.

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<v Speaker 1>Fallout episode three, season two opens with us reuniting with

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<v Speaker 1>our old friend Thaddius, former Brotherhood of Steel Paladin, now

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<v Speaker 1>a ghoul, and he is a manager of what appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be a new Cola bottling company staffed by kids

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<v Speaker 1>that are both human kids and ghoul young Gules. Thaddeus

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<v Speaker 1>makes a speech to his staff about listen, we're all

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to have jobs. Okay, we're all lucky to be

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<v Speaker 1>working in a factory that's inside of an apparently defended perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to deal with raiders in the wasteland

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<v Speaker 1>and so don't be mean to each other, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of us that are Ghuls don't feel bad that your Guals,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of us that are humans don't make fun

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ghuls because we're all working here together. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all lucky to be here. Meanwhile, Lucy is taken by

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<v Speaker 1>her captors along with the woman who she saved from

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital, into a camp and it's the Legion, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Kaisar's legion. And from the game, if those

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<v Speaker 1>two of us who've played New Vegas or aware of

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<v Speaker 1>the Legion say kind of meat headed group of meat

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<v Speaker 1>headed faction that is always at war with various other factions,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is absolutely the case here, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they are Roman Empire wannabes. They immediately kill the woman.

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<v Speaker 1>They bring Lucy before their leader, the Kaisar, who's of

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<v Speaker 1>course name, they pronounce it correctly. She tries to correct

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<v Speaker 1>them like, I think it's seas her, like if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys want to be Roman, and she just like correcting

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<v Speaker 1>them on that. As the screams of the tortured and

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<v Speaker 1>the crucified ring out through the camp.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy and honestly, the Lucy is not happy about it,

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<v Speaker 3>because the Legion is essentially like negotiating her historically accurate

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<v Speaker 3>sexual assault. And she's like, guess what, bitch, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>assault me or sacrifice me, because that was not even

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<v Speaker 3>Romans who were doing that. It was people in the

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<v Speaker 3>medieval times. They just wanted to sound fancy. And also,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the otherge and I've messed around with my cousin

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of times, so what are you gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>about that?

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<v Speaker 2>And even they're like hmm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>So they tie her hands and they're gonna put her

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<v Speaker 3>on the cross, and Macaulay Culkin, who plays Kaisar, tells Lucy,

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<v Speaker 3>look things he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like the right, He's like the you're right. He's

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<v Speaker 2>like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Manager to the Kaisar. I don't know that we picked

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<v Speaker 1>up his name here.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just mc.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just been calling hi, McCaulay culkin.

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<v Speaker 3>Good on Macaulay Culkin, who we love. And he's like, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 3>things are very serious here. Okay, we have got our

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<v Speaker 3>we've got our problems with the Legion. And then there's

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking New California Republic and the Brotherhood of Steel

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<v Speaker 3>and basically they're just fucking with us and it's all going.

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<v Speaker 2>Really bad, and there's a like interious.

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<v Speaker 3>Schism between the Fosters because the people who chose the

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<v Speaker 3>original Caesar as the leader, they chose a successor, but

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<v Speaker 3>we disagree, and the name of that person is actually

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<v Speaker 3>on the corpse of the og leader, who is a

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<v Speaker 3>skeleton that you can see over here, but we can't

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<v Speaker 3>get to it because there's the sibyls awful and Lucy's light.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I can help you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm nice, I'm good at mediating, and instead they're like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I just crucify it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just just throw her up there back of

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. The ghoul is like dealing with the rad

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<v Speaker 1>scorpion poison and going really badly, but also kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the facts that he's still alive and is able to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with it kind of proves Lucy's point, like he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need the stiff pack that bad. He crawls somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>safe where he can cut out the ghoul the rad

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<v Speaker 1>scorpion poison sacks from his leg, which he does all

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<v Speaker 1>the while speaking sweetly to dog Meat, And then we

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<v Speaker 1>see the past. It is Coop. He's in his Hollywood home.

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<v Speaker 1>He sees his wife Barb packing their daughter Janey's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for the potential stay in the vault should there ever

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<v Speaker 1>be a nuclear war. And of course Coop knows that

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<v Speaker 1>there will be a nuclear war, and it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>Barb's plan and part of the Corporation's plan started themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>but he plays dummy, plays the doting husband. He says, well, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>will honey, hopefully we won't need to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll never hopefully go into the vote, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh honey, hopefully it won't come to that. M out right,

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife is like crying. He's like, yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully it won't come to that, and he then makes

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse and says, I gotta go. I gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>over to the Veterans Hall see Charlie.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we get there and we see Charlie played

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<v Speaker 3>by Dallas Goldtooth, a Moldeva agent, and he's like, hey man,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on. He's like, what's going on? Is Robert

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<v Speaker 3>house building something? Is there some kind of weapons system?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what's occurring? And Coop's like that, yeah, that's basically it.

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<v Speaker 2>So did you know that Moldava wants me to kill him?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I should do that? Old war pal?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Brow, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he's like Charlie's like, actually, maybe you should

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<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you should kill the right guy.

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<v Speaker 3>For once, I thought this was some really interesting, nice

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<v Speaker 3>stuff here with the Veterans Hall, because they really deal

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<v Speaker 3>with kind of the realities of war and realizing that

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<v Speaker 3>you came back for a war and fought for a

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<v Speaker 3>country that maybe doesn't care about you, for a war

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<v Speaker 3>you don't believe in, and it's really interesting. And we

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<v Speaker 3>get this hilarious moment where we see Diane Well, she's

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<v Speaker 3>a congresswoman from Glendale, and she's like, it's me here,

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<v Speaker 3>the only politician who doesn't take corporate money.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're in like the shittiest vet center with.

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<v Speaker 3>No money, there's no lights, and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like painfully tut it.

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<v Speaker 1>What I loved about this whole bit with Diane Welch,

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<v Speaker 1>the congresswoman talking about how she doesn't take corporate money,

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<v Speaker 1>is that, yes, she is this you know, upstanding, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>politician who understands the dangers of corporate money and politics.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's also like a terrible she's so boring, so boring,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not engaging. It's like if you want to believe

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<v Speaker 1>in her message, you're just gonna have to fight through

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she's bumbling and boring and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get her notes together.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and also as well, I love that it's also

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<v Speaker 3>like very real to the kind of people who like

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<v Speaker 3>stick to their guns in politics, is like very unglamorous, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's bad that corporations are in charge

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<v Speaker 3>of everything and the vets thing gets really boring and

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<v Speaker 3>there's no like Captain America Jocketing Firewak.

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<v Speaker 2>She needs a little bit more of a show.

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<v Speaker 1>She can't like figure. She's like she her notes from misplaced.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, doesn't know who she's giving the award to.

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<v Speaker 1>This is whole thing. So Cooper's like, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out, babe, I'm gonna goes in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And who should he find in there? About Bob House?

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<v Speaker 1>Bob House is in there, and Bob House hell taking

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<v Speaker 1>a piss? Are we you here to receive an award

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<v Speaker 1>my friend? And House is like, oh, you here to

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<v Speaker 1>see your friend Charlie. I heard Charlie is a pinko

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<v Speaker 1>communist And Cooper's like, no, he's not Pinco And then

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<v Speaker 1>House is like, well, what about you, my friend, you

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<v Speaker 1>pinco communist peak, communist maoists scum And then he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get but I don't worry. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't judge emphasize with the Pinkos. The Pinkos are absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you know they've analyze the sitution quite well.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, what what are you going to do

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<v Speaker 1>when when billions of people are backed into a corner?

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite He makes quite an enigmatic speech about war

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<v Speaker 1>between communism and capitalism basically, but he doesn't get into details,

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<v Speaker 1>and Coop then says, well, you must not be a vet,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, and House is like, what gave me?

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<v Speaker 2>A ways?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't talk politics with their dick in their hands?

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa?

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<v Speaker 1>And with that, let's take a quick break. Oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>come back to continue with our recap.

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<v Speaker 4>Follow episode thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back and we're inside the infamous area fifty one.

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<v Speaker 3>You've always wanted to look inside, Well, guess what you

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<v Speaker 3>could be there?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>The Brotherhood of Steel are arguing about tactics, the conspirators

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<v Speaker 3>are breaking up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all falling apart since old the good old Command

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<v Speaker 2>and Jarley.

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<v Speaker 3>Showed up the glamorous Kaladin Hallard in Harkness. He's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Quintus was really on the like, let's rebel guys, and

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<v Speaker 3>then no, it's not working. He's like, but we started

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<v Speaker 3>from an insurrection. We were somebody who we came up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Roger Maxim, the first Brotherhood of Steel leader,

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<v Speaker 3>he knew that things were being done in California before

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<v Speaker 3>the war, terrible experiments, and he turned his back on

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<v Speaker 3>his government and embraced religion.

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<v Speaker 2>Maxim shot the scientists and.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone else and founded the Brotherhood of Steel, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a very interesting little tidbitsy and as how much fucking

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<v Speaker 3>terrible experimentation we saw going on in the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of episodes, Quintus is a ze let.

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<v Speaker 2>Bet it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>The women leader of the BOS is like, hey, just

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<v Speaker 3>give the coffee's drive to the fucking Commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm leaving. Maximus is like, well, let's just kill Harkness.

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<v Speaker 3>What about that? And Quintus is like, well, if you

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<v Speaker 3>do that, there'll be a lot of war. But like

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<v Speaker 3>the righteousness of the cause. Maximus is like, isn't that

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<v Speaker 3>what it's meant to be about? And he's like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if hey, you're dumb, He's like fuck you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're an idiot, You're stupid, you fucking idiot, fucking dialistic

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<v Speaker 1>dumb call. Darkness greets Maximus outside and is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why don't we talk Because it's clear that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's too much politics going around over here,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I understand that different Brotherhood of Steel

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<v Speaker 1>chapters do things in different ways, but you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cleric I think is weird lyrics. Too

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<v Speaker 1>many clerics making decisions. You know, in the Commonwealth we

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<v Speaker 1>have clerics too, but they know they're not like leaders

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Like guys like you and me, we're the leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, like, let's just me and you hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it, you know, because like obviously rebellion

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be very very costly. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a civil war. We don't want that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes against what the Brotherhood of steals about, which is

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<v Speaker 1>about order, you know, back east in the Commonwealth. You

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<v Speaker 1>know again, guy like you and me, we can climb

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<v Speaker 1>the ladder, not the clerics. So think about it. Harkness

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<v Speaker 1>Uh basically wants Maximus and him to just like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just you and I figure out a solution. To this,

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<v Speaker 1>and Maximus agrees.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, this is a really good plan, and let's

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<v Speaker 3>go on a little adventure together. Back of the Legion camp,

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<v Speaker 3>the Gul is like scooting out the situation. He sees

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<v Speaker 3>Lucy on the cross and he's like okay, sees the

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<v Speaker 3>two leaders of the warring factions.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like this is going to be so easy.

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<v Speaker 3>So the girl does some drugs, goes off to get

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<v Speaker 3>help fighting the Legions from none other than the New

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<v Speaker 3>California Republic. He goes to see his friend Victor of

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<v Speaker 3>Robe and the girls like, hey, where the fuck is

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<v Speaker 3>Robert House?

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<v Speaker 2>I need him. Victa's like House is gone, He's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not here, and the goals like, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>about that, because that bitch had plans for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>He ruined my fucking life.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like House definitely had schemes and plans and

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<v Speaker 3>plots upon plots. So what do we do? And Rob

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<v Speaker 3>obviously needed this called fusion device, the thing that we

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<v Speaker 3>now know.

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<v Speaker 2>That the Brotherhood of Steel have.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's been talk of this artifact, so it's very

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to do. And Victor is essentially like, hey, there's

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<v Speaker 3>some NCR ranges in the hills. Maybe you can use

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<v Speaker 3>them to make your plan, which is not gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>off for them, Sorry to those ranges.

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<v Speaker 1>Harkness takes Maximus up in the helicopter and they're flying

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<v Speaker 1>around talking about like what to do. Max is like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at all the Commonwealth hardware and how well it's

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<v Speaker 1>maintained and how cool it is, and he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>blown away and how cool it is. And Harkness makes

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<v Speaker 1>his ultimate pitch, which is like, listen, unless Quintus gives

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<v Speaker 1>us the cold Fusion relic, there's going to be a war,

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<v Speaker 1>and that war will entail me shooting at you, you

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<v Speaker 1>shooting at me on the front lines, and nobody wants that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, what do we do? Harkness is basically like, listen,

0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.439
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be the end of civilization. Unless the

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<v Speaker 1>Commonwealth gets the relic, that's who should have the give

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<v Speaker 1>it to us, Yes, And while they're flying, Harkness picks

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<v Speaker 1>up a signal that is a signal that there are robots,

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<v Speaker 1>sentient robots down there, and that is one of the

0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:41.440
<v Speaker 1>brotherhood of Steels main enemies Ghuls and robots, robots and ghouls,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Harkness is like, what do you think max

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<v Speaker 1>you want to take them down? And Maximus is like

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<v Speaker 1>hell yeah. So they land somewhere to go take out

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<v Speaker 1>these robots.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ghoul finds the New California Republic and is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>how's it going, And the funniest thing is they just

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<v Speaker 3>fucking hit him over the head and they're like, we're taking.

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<v Speaker 2>Him to the camp.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, there's no politeness here, take him to the camp.

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<v Speaker 3>And the girls like, you guys look like shit, which

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<v Speaker 3>is you know coming from him?

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<v Speaker 2>I love?

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<v Speaker 3>And Captain Malriguez is like, look, there's no fucking back

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<v Speaker 3>up here. There's no other people coming. We've been here

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<v Speaker 3>for ten years, and we want to get our Eastern

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<v Speaker 3>Battalion to come out and help us. Like can you

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<v Speaker 3>help us? And the girls like, first of all, if

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<v Speaker 3>this is the Civil War, you're fucking losing. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you think you're winning, you're losing. Second of all, I

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<v Speaker 3>got my own issues, including finding my family, saving this

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<v Speaker 3>random girl, doing a lot of stuff. And Rodriguez is like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>you can turn the tide. You can do it, and

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<v Speaker 3>girls like well, if you're the last New California Republic,

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<v Speaker 3>then maybe you fucking deserve to lose, because there's just

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<v Speaker 3>two of you in a camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Harkness in Maximus in their power armor or Maximus in

0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.080
<v Speaker 1>borrowed power armor, go into this building. They're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the robots. Harkness takes out a super sledge first time

0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:01.520
<v Speaker 1>we've seen a super sledge, I believe, and fallout, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the rocket powered sledgehammer, which I always love to

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<v Speaker 1>use in the game. And they find a robot. They

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<v Speaker 1>fucking kill it. They rip out its power supply. Harkness

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<v Speaker 1>is like, hey, Max, you want to try the super sledge.

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<v Speaker 1>They try to boy at the legionary camp. Lucy is

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<v Speaker 1>like basically barely hanging on. She's likes.

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<v Speaker 2>They just tied her up.

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<v Speaker 3>The shoulders are coming out of Joina lips of crusty.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a llucinating or is she now?

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<v Speaker 3>Or she?

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<v Speaker 1>But she's not. The Ghoul is in the camp. He

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<v Speaker 1>goes to see the Kaisar and proposes a trade. He's like, listen, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you give me what I want, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>what you want. We don't know what he is offering

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<v Speaker 1>a trade, but it's clear that eventually what he's offering

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<v Speaker 1>the Legion is the location of that final NCR bas

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<v Speaker 1>up in the Hills in exchange or Lucy.

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<v Speaker 3>In the past, Cooper watches Charlie and Charlie talks about

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<v Speaker 3>the first time he met Cooper during a war with China,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like Cooper was.

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<v Speaker 2>Unselfish in a team player.

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<v Speaker 3>He tells this story about when he was dragging him

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<v Speaker 3>saving his life and he was covered in burns. Charlie

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<v Speaker 3>looked down at him and the first thing he said

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<v Speaker 3>to Charlie was, how are the other men like?

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<v Speaker 2>This is a man who.

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<v Speaker 3>Loves his soldiers, He loves his friends, and we see

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<v Speaker 3>that here now where Lucy is cut down.

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<v Speaker 2>The gul leads her out of the camp.

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<v Speaker 3>As we listen to Charlie's speech about the bitterness of

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<v Speaker 3>war and really he's looking straight at Coop, so this

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<v Speaker 3>is really a conversation to him saying, hey man, take

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<v Speaker 3>on the Robert House mission. Also, Charlie gets the award,

0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.040
<v Speaker 3>the Bravery Award for the veterans, and it's a memorial

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<v Speaker 3>lighter and he gives it to Cooper and he says,

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<v Speaker 3>hey man, He's like, they gave it to me for

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<v Speaker 3>the one life I saved, but not the three I took,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of saying to him, like you can kill Rob House,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can kill somebody who fucking does herves it

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Then saved millions of lives, and then you know the

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<v Speaker 5>ghoul is Basically we cut back to him heading over

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<v Speaker 5>after this emotional moment in the future, and he says

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<v Speaker 5>to Lucy, he's like, look, man, maybe I fucking made

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<v Speaker 5>a mistake saving you.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, thank you. I'm so nice, though, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>love me? And he's and he's like, but.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think this is again this kind of implication

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<v Speaker 3>that he's not really going to sell out or try

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.040
<v Speaker 3>to sell out the people that he cares about or

0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.760
<v Speaker 3>has relationships with, because he has spotted dynamite on the

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<v Speaker 3>way out of the camp and somehow stole the detonator

0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.360
<v Speaker 3>or had a detonator on hand because he's an old

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<v Speaker 3>timey Western guy, and rather than letting the Legion get

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<v Speaker 3>to the California New Republic, he starts blowing up the

0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.200
<v Speaker 3>dynamite in the middle, setting off this kind of legion

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.879
<v Speaker 3>mini civil war, and they start killing each other, and

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<v Speaker 3>him and Lucy walk off into the dusty sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>Harkness and Max they we realize that they're in the

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<v Speaker 1>bottling facility from the cold open and you know, Harkness

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<v Speaker 1>has found like a ghoul child that is hits like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody come out. So he calls for everybody to come

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<v Speaker 1>out and saw all these kids such a nice.

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<v Speaker 3>This is fun, Yes, this is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Harkness then begins splitting up the kids into gool group

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<v Speaker 1>and human group, with clearly the intention of killing all

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<v Speaker 1>the ghoul kids. Fattius comes out and is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>like I realize I don't have a lot of leverage here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a lot of like the stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>but like if you could like not kill the kids

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<v Speaker 1>that are guls, that would really be great. Harkness is like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are all abominations, and like crazy, you're all

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet, this is all very nice in the nice conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>but you guys are abominations and so you're all gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to die. But before he could do that, Max

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<v Speaker 1>hits him in the head with the super sledge absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>when hundred percent killing him. He's dead. Oh man, Max

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<v Speaker 1>pops his face plate.

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<v Speaker 2>All that Jason, you knew Hawkness was not gonna survive.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, Max pops his face plate Thaddeus immediately

0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.160
<v Speaker 1>recognizes him and they briefly catch up before Max says,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shit, I accidentally started a war. Let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break and come back and talk about this episode. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. Another very dense episode that throws a lot

0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 1>of stuff at us. We got the Legionaire's Caesar's legion.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw some new California Republic folks that are like

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<v Speaker 1>ten years out from the destruction of Shady Acres, and

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<v Speaker 1>the NCR still hanging on somehow in the hills. And

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<v Speaker 1>we see the Brotherhood of Steel schism happening, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the untimely death of Harkness. But let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this one. We talked about it last episode. Whether

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Harkness is a synth, a courser, or a synthetic human?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the end? Are we going to find out

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:22.120
<v Speaker 1>when Max pulls the sledge out of the helmet of

0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Harkness's power armor that actually Harkness is a robot? And

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean we're going to see Harkness again?

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<v Speaker 3>That would be hilarious. I could definitely see that. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's two roots. I basically think that if he

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<v Speaker 3>pulls it out and we just kind of move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I think that we'll get the surprise reveal later

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<v Speaker 3>when at some point Harkness is just there and everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>going to and max is going to be late.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>Because also that would mean the Brotherhood stills using modern

0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 3>technology and using synth and robots and everything, so that'd

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<v Speaker 3>be very controversial.

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<v Speaker 2>So or the other option is he pulls it out of.

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<v Speaker 3>His head and he sees it as a robot and

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<v Speaker 3>then we kind of unfurl it from there, which I

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<v Speaker 3>think would also probably help him feel less like he

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<v Speaker 3>just started a global world war.

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:08.240
<v Speaker 2>But I thought that was such a fun, interesting reveal.

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.160
<v Speaker 3>I felt like Kamal's like too big to kill him

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 3>like that, but you called it. I was just like

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 3>absolutely cheering on Maximus. Obviously, ghoul kids are not abominations

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.679
<v Speaker 3>like it shows how kind of need for even though

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 3>we see that the Commonwealth is very well equipped and

0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.360
<v Speaker 3>modern and when it comes to like, you know, how

0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.399
<v Speaker 3>well their worlies are kept and stuff, they clearly have

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 3>just as archaic kind of like dogmatic rules as any

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 3>other but version because he's like legit making jokes and

0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 3>winking at the kids that he calls smooth skins aka

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 3>the human kids and like while he's lining up the

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.840
<v Speaker 3>other kids to be killed. So this is a no

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 3>joke situation for the Brotherhood of Still but Maximus once

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.480
<v Speaker 3>again coming through on the right side history. Jason, as

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 3>a game player, how did this feel? You feel like

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 3>that they take with three episodes in?

0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Are we too? Are they taking too long to get

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 2>to New Vegas.

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.199
<v Speaker 3>And really be in that law or are we waiting

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:12.720
<v Speaker 3>for that kind of mid season?

0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.680
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting? No, I think we've I think it's enough.

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I I do think that we are basically in New Vegas. Listen,

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 1>you know we talked about it last episode that while

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>when you see the outskirts of it, it looks a

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.160
<v Speaker 1>lot more built up than it is in the game.

0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 1>The game honestly more resembles that bedraggled NCR Bass in

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:37.240
<v Speaker 1>the Hills than the exactly it resembles anything else. So

0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I think this is fine. I think my question is

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 1>was it too much of the side quests and not

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>enough of the main quest. The Robert House stuff is fascinating.

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say I need more Robert House.

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 3>That's the mystery I'm most interested in this season.

0:22:54.560 --> 0:23:00.720
<v Speaker 1>The way he approaches Coop in the bathroom, seemingly waiting

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.120
<v Speaker 1>for him. Does he have an idea that.

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Coop knows made? I could that he felt.

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Very weighted to me that particular conversation, Like what is

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:20.640
<v Speaker 1>he essentially trying to convince Cooper? Well, I'm because he's, Yeah.

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm very interested by this time period because we're also

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.159
<v Speaker 3>obviously even though this is you know, like twenty seventy

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:29.360
<v Speaker 3>seven or whatever around that period, it's very like influenced

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 3>by the fifties, right, And it's this kind of McCarthy ism.

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Like I love the notion that, yeah, it did feel

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.679
<v Speaker 3>like House was pointedly asking him. But also if you

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:46.400
<v Speaker 3>were somebody who had uh, you know, sensibilities or sensitivities

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 3>towards the notions of communism or ideas of like socialism,

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 3>that is probably how every conversation felt when someone brought

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 3>that up to you.

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 2>So I also kind of love that duality.

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 3>But knowing Robert House, I mean, my assumption is he knows,

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 3>and he probably has some other way that he's going

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 3>to try and manipulate Coop against thinking it's against his wife,

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 3>but really it's part of the larger plan.

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sure I mean, I wouldn't even be surprised.

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 3>If we found out the Coop and there was some

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of experiments he agreed to. There's all kinds of

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.880
<v Speaker 3>stuff that we could see happen, because when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to his family, he's gonna make those risks and take

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<v Speaker 3>those risks.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is Coop looking for house in New Vegas? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we think? And what you know? When he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the robot Victor and is like, where's Robert house?

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<v Speaker 1>What is he expecting? And does that mean he never

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<v Speaker 1>got to Vegas the first time?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was wondering, because that makes me think

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<v Speaker 3>he hasn't, or at least not for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's looking for his family.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's hoping the house will know whether they are cryogenically, whether.

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<v Speaker 2>They are you know, living in a vault, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we're gonna find out that his wife and house

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<v Speaker 3>are together or something, and maybe it's like a spawn

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<v Speaker 3>type situation where now they're raising the kid like that

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<v Speaker 3>would be really crazy, But I definitely think that's why

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<v Speaker 3>he's looking for house. I also just think that this

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<v Speaker 3>justin through house thing is so intriguing, and why is

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<v Speaker 3>he just like in a men's toilet, in a bathroom

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<v Speaker 3>in a veteran's association that is also clearly like underloved

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<v Speaker 3>and not like well looked after. So also this is

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<v Speaker 3>a crazy one through out there, but we'd already talked

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<v Speaker 3>about it because of the double casting. Is Robert House

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<v Speaker 3>using like synth style animatronics like out and about in

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<v Speaker 3>the world prior to this where he's like using them

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<v Speaker 3>to basically spy, Like is he Walt Disney with his animatronics?

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<v Speaker 3>But he has them out in the world already, Because

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, why is he down there? And it

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<v Speaker 3>came so close after the Harkness thing that I started

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<v Speaker 3>like putting things together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wonder that as well. It certainly seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>me as if he was trying to get Coop to

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<v Speaker 1>agree that any means necessary to take over the world

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<v Speaker 1>in order to stop communism is the right move. When

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<v Speaker 1>he that whole conversation around pushing billions of people into

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<v Speaker 1>a corner, I think he's saying, listen, communism is on

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<v Speaker 1>the rise. It's very strong. Look around here in this

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<v Speaker 1>veterans hall. Here we've got Charlie, your friend who's a pinko.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be a Pinko, Like the Pinkos are getting

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<v Speaker 1>stronger and we've got to do something, do we not?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he's I don't know if he's pitching

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<v Speaker 1>Coop because he knows that Coop knows about the conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 1>or if he's just pitching Coop because Barb is important

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to make sure the entire family is

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<v Speaker 1>on board. Or does he want to use Coop as

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<v Speaker 1>like does he want to mind control Coop?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think I think that's where it's going.

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<v Speaker 1>I think these I do wonder, you know, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>the skeletons of veterans, and I do wonder if Coop's

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<v Speaker 1>plan wasn't to take these vets, brain control them into

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that they are into acting like they're Chinese invaders,

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<v Speaker 1>and use them as the false flag, including Coop as

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<v Speaker 1>the false flag to start, okay, the war, to create

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<v Speaker 1>a precursor, a pretext for launching the war.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you are right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's absolutely a great way of tying in

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<v Speaker 3>the early Mesmetron stuff. Plus, you know, Dallas gold Tooth,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not really a guest spot one episode guy anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't be surprised if we get a flashback

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<v Speaker 3>later this season that shows that they say that some

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<v Speaker 3>communists you know, spy and we learned that it was

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie and that maybe they were able to do that

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<v Speaker 3>to him, you know, and that would have been obviously

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<v Speaker 3>horrific to Koop, and he knows how Charlie really feels

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<v Speaker 3>about the government, so he'd also know it wasn't something

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<v Speaker 3>he would choose to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that could be so.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting also, Jason, seeing as we're on the Fallout topic,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that we were going to bring

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<v Speaker 3>up in news, but I think is a good thing

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<v Speaker 3>to bring up here while we're discussing the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually mentioned recently that.

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<v Speaker 3>Four out five will contain canon from the show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think that the notion of what we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about about Vault twenty four and stuff where that

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<v Speaker 3>had been hinted at in the other stuff but wasn't

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 3>necessarily canon, really to the game. The idea that behind

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<v Speaker 3>the Starlight drive in was the Vault twenty four stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that, I think we're gonna then get to see explored.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything from this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Thus far that you would really love to get a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to play in the next Fallout oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do think like the I do think the

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<v Speaker 1>Legionary schism. I mean it's in the game right, the

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<v Speaker 1>Legionaries are war with the New California Republic and the

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers and Steeler involved in that. But like this Brotherhood

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>of steel civil War brewing rebellion is a really interesting development.

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<v Speaker 1>I will also add, you know, with them putting more clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>this means there's going to be more New Vegas lore

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<v Speaker 1>in right. That's why I fall Out proper, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because New Vegas was created by Obsidian, not

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<v Speaker 1>by Bethesda. They contracted out with a with a different

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>company to make that that sequel while they were working

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>on Fallout four, because it was in between Fallout three

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<v Speaker 1>and Fallout four. And my sense has always been that

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<v Speaker 1>the feelings at Bethesda were like complicated about New Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>because New Vegas is absolutely beloved, especially about like hardcore.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's the best, yeah, many will tell people.

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<v Speaker 1>Will tell you. People will tell you that it's their favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think my sense has always been that that's

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<v Speaker 1>complicated for Bethesda, like they wanted it to be good,

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't want it to be like so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's weird for Bethesda that they didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>this and people fucking love it. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be interesting to see more New Vegas kind

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<v Speaker 1>of threads and lore adapted from the show that is

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>adapted from the game involved in Fallout five. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's great to tie all of this stuff together

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>because I think the overarching conspiracy talking about this with

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<v Speaker 1>friends last night, Fallout three is my favorite story. New

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Vegas is great. I love it, but it's not my favorite.

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>And Fallout four, I think I love the Institute conspiracy. Yes,

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I love the settlement building, but I think the story

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>falls a little flat. If there is a way in

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<v Speaker 1>Fallout five to tie all of these conspiracies together and

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>storylines together a cohesive way, I think that would be

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. And of course, like listen, this is probably

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>my favorite game series of all time, so I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait for a Fallout five. What do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>having some of the game some of the TV stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in Fallout five?

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<v Speaker 3>To me, somebody who really doesn't have as much of

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<v Speaker 3>an extensive knowledge of the games as you more would

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>like somebody who's just played with friends and watch friends play,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially New Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>I love anything like this, because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think all of I think a true dream of any adaptation,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's adapting a video game for Amazon Prime or

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 3>whether it's you know, webtoon doing DC comics like Batman

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Family Adventures, it should be a two way street. You're

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<v Speaker 3>not just trying to bring new people to your platform,

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 3>which is obviously what Amazon is doing. They want to

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 3>have people watching it, but you also want people who've

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>never played a Fallout game to go and play the games.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is what I think keeps these kind of

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, cultural legacy franchises fresh is introducing new audiences,

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>new people to interact with them. So anything like this

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 3>where somebody can go from watching this to then getting

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>into Triple A gaming via it, I think is really exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I love that, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would love to see, you know, a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>kind of weirder, deeper, low gameplay, like if you I

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 3>love this idea of fall Out five being like very

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 3>narratively meaningful and kind of having all the trappings of

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 3>a Fallout game, but maybe managing to tie all of

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<v Speaker 3>this law together.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that could.

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<v Speaker 3>Become one of the greatest games of all time if

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<v Speaker 3>they did it in a way that felt realistic and true.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to continue our coverage of Fallout season

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<v Speaker 1>two on the next episode of extra Vision. We're highlighting

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<v Speaker 1>some of our favorite heist and winter gothic movies. That's

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<v Speaker 1>it for this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray

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