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Today's episode contains spoilers for Fallout episode three, season two. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Be warned, be warned. 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosey Night 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: and welcome back to Extra vision of the podcast where 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: we dive deep into your faverit Joe's Movies, comics of 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: pop culture, Company from My Heart podcast Where Were You? 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Three episodes a week, plus news. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Plus news, and today we're going. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: Back into the wastelands to see some friends, some enemies, 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: some foes, some action in another great episode of Fallout 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: two ou three, which we will recap beginning now. 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Fallout episode three, season two opens with us reuniting with 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: our old friend Thaddius, former Brotherhood of Steel Paladin, now 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: a ghoul, and he is a manager of what appears 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: to be a new Cola bottling company staffed by kids 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: that are both human kids and ghoul young Gules. Thaddeus 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: makes a speech to his staff about listen, we're all 18 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: lucky to have jobs. Okay, we're all lucky to be 19 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: working in a factory that's inside of an apparently defended perimeter. 20 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: We don't have to deal with raiders in the wasteland 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: and so don't be mean to each other, and some 22 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: of us that are Ghuls don't feel bad that your Guals, 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: and some of us that are humans don't make fun 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: of the Ghuls because we're all working here together. We're 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: all lucky to be here. Meanwhile, Lucy is taken by 26 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: her captors along with the woman who she saved from 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: the hospital, into a camp and it's the Legion, folks, 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: this is Kaisar's legion. And from the game, if those 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: two of us who've played New Vegas or aware of 30 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: the Legion say kind of meat headed group of meat 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: headed faction that is always at war with various other factions, 32 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: and that is absolutely the case here, and you know 33 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: they are Roman Empire wannabes. They immediately kill the woman. 34 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: They bring Lucy before their leader, the Kaisar, who's of 35 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: course name, they pronounce it correctly. She tries to correct 36 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: them like, I think it's seas her, like if you 37 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: guys want to be Roman, and she just like correcting 38 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: them on that. As the screams of the tortured and 39 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: the crucified ring out through the camp. 40 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: It's crazy and honestly, the Lucy is not happy about it, 41 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: because the Legion is essentially like negotiating her historically accurate 42 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: sexual assault. And she's like, guess what, bitch, you can't 43 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: assault me or sacrifice me, because that was not even 44 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: Romans who were doing that. It was people in the 45 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: medieval times. They just wanted to sound fancy. And also, 46 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: I'm the otherge and I've messed around with my cousin 47 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: a ton of times, so what are you gonna do 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: about that? 49 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: And even they're like hmm hmm. 50 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: So they tie her hands and they're gonna put her 51 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: on the cross, and Macaulay Culkin, who plays Kaisar, tells Lucy, 52 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: look things he's not. 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: He's like the right, He's like the you're right. He's 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: like the. 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: Manager to the Kaisar. I don't know that we picked 56 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: up his name here. 57 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 2: It was just mc. 58 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: I've just been calling hi, McCaulay culkin. 59 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: Good on Macaulay Culkin, who we love. And he's like, hey, look, 60 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: things are very serious here. Okay, we have got our 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: we've got our problems with the Legion. And then there's 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: the fucking New California Republic and the Brotherhood of Steel 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: and basically they're just fucking with us and it's all going. 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: Really bad, and there's a like interious. 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: Schism between the Fosters because the people who chose the 66 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: original Caesar as the leader, they chose a successor, but 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: we disagree, and the name of that person is actually 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: on the corpse of the og leader, who is a 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: skeleton that you can see over here, but we can't 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: get to it because there's the sibyls awful and Lucy's light. 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: Look, I can help you. 72 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: I'm nice, I'm good at mediating, and instead they're like, no, 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: I just crucify it. 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I just just throw her up there back of 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: the hospital. The ghoul is like dealing with the rad 76 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: scorpion poison and going really badly, but also kind of 77 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: the facts that he's still alive and is able to 78 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: deal with it kind of proves Lucy's point, like he 79 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: didn't need the stiff pack that bad. He crawls somewhere 80 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: safe where he can cut out the ghoul the rad 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: scorpion poison sacks from his leg, which he does all 82 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the while speaking sweetly to dog Meat, And then we 83 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: see the past. It is Coop. He's in his Hollywood home. 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: He sees his wife Barb packing their daughter Janey's stuff 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: for the potential stay in the vault should there ever 86 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: be a nuclear war. And of course Coop knows that 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: there will be a nuclear war, and it's part of 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Barb's plan and part of the Corporation's plan started themselves, 89 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: but he plays dummy, plays the doting husband. He says, well, honey, 90 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: will honey, hopefully we won't need to do that. 91 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: We'll never hopefully go into the vote, honey. 92 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh honey, hopefully it won't come to that. M out right, 93 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: and his wife is like crying. He's like, yes, of course, 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: hopefully it won't come to that, and he then makes 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: an excuse and says, I gotta go. I gotta go 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: over to the Veterans Hall see Charlie. 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: And then we get there and we see Charlie played 98 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: by Dallas Goldtooth, a Moldeva agent, and he's like, hey man, 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: what's going on. He's like, what's going on? Is Robert 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: house building something? Is there some kind of weapons system? 101 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: Like what's occurring? And Coop's like that, yeah, that's basically it. 102 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: So did you know that Moldava wants me to kill him? 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: Do you think I should do that? Old war pal? 104 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: And he's like don't do it. 105 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Brow, don't do it. 106 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 3: And then he's like Charlie's like, actually, maybe you should 107 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: do it. 108 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you should kill the right guy. 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: For once, I thought this was some really interesting, nice 110 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: stuff here with the Veterans Hall, because they really deal 111 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: with kind of the realities of war and realizing that 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: you came back for a war and fought for a 113 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: country that maybe doesn't care about you, for a war 114 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: you don't believe in, and it's really interesting. And we 115 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: get this hilarious moment where we see Diane Well, she's 116 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 3: a congresswoman from Glendale, and she's like, it's me here, 117 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: the only politician who doesn't take corporate money. 118 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: And they're in like the shittiest vet center with. 119 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: No money, there's no lights, and I was like, man, 120 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: this is like painfully tut it. 121 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: What I loved about this whole bit with Diane Welch, 122 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: the congresswoman talking about how she doesn't take corporate money, 123 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: is that, yes, she is this you know, upstanding, apparently 124 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: politician who understands the dangers of corporate money and politics. 125 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: But she's also like a terrible she's so boring, so boring, 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: she's not engaging. It's like if you want to believe 127 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: in her message, you're just gonna have to fight through 128 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: the fact that she's bumbling and boring and I can't 129 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: get her notes together. 130 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and also as well, I love that it's also 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: like very real to the kind of people who like 132 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: stick to their guns in politics, is like very unglamorous, Like, well, 133 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: I just think it's bad that corporations are in charge 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: of everything and the vets thing gets really boring and 135 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: there's no like Captain America Jocketing Firewak. 136 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: She needs a little bit more of a show. 137 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: She can't like figure. She's like she her notes from misplaced. 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: She's like, doesn't know who she's giving the award to. 139 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: This is whole thing. So Cooper's like, I'm. 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm out, babe, I'm gonna goes in there. 141 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: And who should he find in there? About Bob House? 142 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Bob House is in there, and Bob House hell taking 143 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: a piss? Are we you here to receive an award 144 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: my friend? And House is like, oh, you here to 145 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: see your friend Charlie. I heard Charlie is a pinko 146 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: communist And Cooper's like, no, he's not Pinco And then 147 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: House is like, well, what about you, my friend, you 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: pinco communist peak, communist maoists scum And then he's like, 149 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: don't get but I don't worry. By the way, I 150 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: don't judge emphasize with the Pinkos. The Pinkos are absolutely right. 151 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 1: Of course, you know they've analyze the sitution quite well. 152 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: But you know, what what are you going to do 153 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: when when billions of people are backed into a corner? 154 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: It's quite He makes quite an enigmatic speech about war 155 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: between communism and capitalism basically, but he doesn't get into details, 156 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: and Coop then says, well, you must not be a vet, 157 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: my friend, and House is like, what gave me? 158 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: A ways? 159 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Don't talk politics with their dick in their hands? 160 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: Whoa? 161 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: And with that, let's take a quick break. Oh, we 162 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: come back to continue with our recap. 163 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: Follow episode thirty. 164 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: We're back and we're inside the infamous area fifty one. 165 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: You've always wanted to look inside, Well, guess what you 166 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 3: could be there? 167 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: Right now? 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: The Brotherhood of Steel are arguing about tactics, the conspirators 169 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: are breaking up. 170 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: It's all falling apart since old the good old Command 171 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: and Jarley. 172 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: Showed up the glamorous Kaladin Hallard in Harkness. He's you know, 173 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: Quintus was really on the like, let's rebel guys, and 174 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: then no, it's not working. He's like, but we started 175 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: from an insurrection. We were somebody who we came up, 176 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: you know. Roger Maxim, the first Brotherhood of Steel leader, 177 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: he knew that things were being done in California before 178 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: the war, terrible experiments, and he turned his back on 179 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: his government and embraced religion. 180 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: Maxim shot the scientists and. 181 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: Everyone else and founded the Brotherhood of Steel, which is 182 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: a very interesting little tidbitsy and as how much fucking 183 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: terrible experimentation we saw going on in the last couple 184 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: of episodes, Quintus is a ze let. 185 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: Bet it doesn't work. 186 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: The women leader of the BOS is like, hey, just 187 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: give the coffee's drive to the fucking Commonwealth. 188 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: I'm leaving. Maximus is like, well, let's just kill Harkness. 189 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: What about that? And Quintus is like, well, if you 190 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: do that, there'll be a lot of war. But like 191 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: the righteousness of the cause. Maximus is like, isn't that 192 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: what it's meant to be about? And he's like yeah, 193 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: if hey, you're dumb, He's like fuck you. 194 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: You're an idiot, You're stupid, you fucking idiot, fucking dialistic 195 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: dumb call. Darkness greets Maximus outside and is like, hey, 196 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, why don't we talk Because it's clear that 197 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: you know, there's too much politics going around over here, 198 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: and you know, I understand that different Brotherhood of Steel 199 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: chapters do things in different ways, but you guys have 200 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: a lot of cleric I think is weird lyrics. Too 201 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: many clerics making decisions. You know, in the Commonwealth we 202 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: have clerics too, but they know they're not like leaders 203 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: and stuff. Like guys like you and me, we're the leaders. 204 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: So you know, like, let's just me and you hang out. 205 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it, you know, because like obviously rebellion 206 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be very very costly. It's going to 207 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: be a civil war. We don't want that, and it 208 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: goes against what the Brotherhood of steals about, which is 209 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: about order, you know, back east in the Commonwealth. You 210 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: know again, guy like you and me, we can climb 211 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: the ladder, not the clerics. So think about it. Harkness 212 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: Uh basically wants Maximus and him to just like, let's 213 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: just you and I figure out a solution. To this, 214 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: and Maximus agrees. 215 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: He's like, this is a really good plan, and let's 216 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: go on a little adventure together. Back of the Legion camp, 217 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: the Gul is like scooting out the situation. He sees 218 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: Lucy on the cross and he's like okay, sees the 219 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: two leaders of the warring factions. 220 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: And it's like this is going to be so easy. 221 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: So the girl does some drugs, goes off to get 222 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 3: help fighting the Legions from none other than the New 223 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: California Republic. He goes to see his friend Victor of 224 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: Robe and the girls like, hey, where the fuck is 225 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: Robert House? 226 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: I need him. Victa's like House is gone, He's. 227 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: Not here, and the goals like, well, I don't know 228 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: about that, because that bitch had plans for everything. 229 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: He ruined my fucking life. 230 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: And he's like House definitely had schemes and plans and 231 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: plots upon plots. So what do we do? And Rob 232 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: obviously needed this called fusion device, the thing that we 233 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: now know. 234 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: That the Brotherhood of Steel have. 235 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: And there's been talk of this artifact, so it's very 236 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: interesting to do. And Victor is essentially like, hey, there's 237 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: some NCR ranges in the hills. Maybe you can use 238 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: them to make your plan, which is not gonna go 239 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: off for them, Sorry to those ranges. 240 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Harkness takes Maximus up in the helicopter and they're flying 241 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: around talking about like what to do. Max is like 242 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: looking at all the Commonwealth hardware and how well it's 243 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: maintained and how cool it is, and he's kind of 244 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: blown away and how cool it is. And Harkness makes 245 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: his ultimate pitch, which is like, listen, unless Quintus gives 246 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: us the cold Fusion relic, there's going to be a war, 247 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: and that war will entail me shooting at you, you 248 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: shooting at me on the front lines, and nobody wants that. 249 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: So you know, what do we do? Harkness is basically like, listen, 250 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: it's going to be the end of civilization. Unless the 251 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: Commonwealth gets the relic, that's who should have the give 252 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: it to us, Yes, And while they're flying, Harkness picks 253 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: up a signal that is a signal that there are robots, 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: sentient robots down there, and that is one of the 255 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: brotherhood of Steels main enemies Ghuls and robots, robots and ghouls, 256 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: and so Harkness is like, what do you think max 257 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: you want to take them down? And Maximus is like 258 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: hell yeah. So they land somewhere to go take out 259 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: these robots. 260 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: The Ghoul finds the New California Republic and is like, hey, 261 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: how's it going, And the funniest thing is they just 262 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: fucking hit him over the head and they're like, we're taking. 263 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: Him to the camp. 264 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 3: They're like, there's no politeness here, take him to the camp. 265 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: And the girls like, you guys look like shit, which 266 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: is you know coming from him? 267 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: I love? 268 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: And Captain Malriguez is like, look, there's no fucking back 269 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: up here. There's no other people coming. We've been here 270 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: for ten years, and we want to get our Eastern 271 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: Battalion to come out and help us. Like can you 272 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: help us? And the girls like, first of all, if 273 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: this is the Civil War, you're fucking losing. And if 274 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: you think you're winning, you're losing. Second of all, I 275 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: got my own issues, including finding my family, saving this 276 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: random girl, doing a lot of stuff. And Rodriguez is like, look, 277 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: you can turn the tide. You can do it, and 278 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: girls like well, if you're the last New California Republic, 279 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: then maybe you fucking deserve to lose, because there's just 280 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: two of you in a camp. 281 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: Harkness in Maximus in their power armor or Maximus in 282 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: borrowed power armor, go into this building. They're looking for 283 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: the robots. Harkness takes out a super sledge first time 284 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: we've seen a super sledge, I believe, and fallout, which 285 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: is the rocket powered sledgehammer, which I always love to 286 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: use in the game. And they find a robot. They 287 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: fucking kill it. They rip out its power supply. Harkness 288 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: is like, hey, Max, you want to try the super sledge. 289 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: They try to boy at the legionary camp. Lucy is 290 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: like basically barely hanging on. She's likes. 291 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: They just tied her up. 292 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: The shoulders are coming out of Joina lips of crusty. 293 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: She's a llucinating or is she now? 294 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: Or she? 295 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: But she's not. The Ghoul is in the camp. He 296 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: goes to see the Kaisar and proposes a trade. He's like, listen, hey, 297 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: if you give me what I want, I'll give you 298 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: what you want. We don't know what he is offering 299 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: a trade, but it's clear that eventually what he's offering 300 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the Legion is the location of that final NCR bas 301 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: up in the Hills in exchange or Lucy. 302 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: In the past, Cooper watches Charlie and Charlie talks about 303 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: the first time he met Cooper during a war with China, 304 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: and he's like Cooper was. 305 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: Unselfish in a team player. 306 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: He tells this story about when he was dragging him 307 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: saving his life and he was covered in burns. Charlie 308 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: looked down at him and the first thing he said 309 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: to Charlie was, how are the other men like? 310 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: This is a man who. 311 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: Loves his soldiers, He loves his friends, and we see 312 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: that here now where Lucy is cut down. 313 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: The gul leads her out of the camp. 314 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: As we listen to Charlie's speech about the bitterness of 315 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: war and really he's looking straight at Coop, so this 316 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: is really a conversation to him saying, hey man, take 317 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: on the Robert House mission. Also, Charlie gets the award, 318 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: the Bravery Award for the veterans, and it's a memorial 319 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: lighter and he gives it to Cooper and he says, 320 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: hey man, He's like, they gave it to me for 321 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: the one life I saved, but not the three I took, 322 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: kind of saying to him, like you can kill Rob House, 323 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: and you can kill somebody who fucking does herves it 324 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: by the way, and. 325 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 5: Then saved millions of lives, and then you know the 326 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 5: ghoul is Basically we cut back to him heading over 327 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: after this emotional moment in the future, and he says 328 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 5: to Lucy, he's like, look, man, maybe I fucking made 329 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: a mistake saving you. 330 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: She's like, thank you. I'm so nice, though, don't you 331 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: love me? And he's and he's like, but. 332 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: And I think this is again this kind of implication 333 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: that he's not really going to sell out or try 334 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: to sell out the people that he cares about or 335 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: has relationships with, because he has spotted dynamite on the 336 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: way out of the camp and somehow stole the detonator 337 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 3: or had a detonator on hand because he's an old 338 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: timey Western guy, and rather than letting the Legion get 339 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: to the California New Republic, he starts blowing up the 340 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: dynamite in the middle, setting off this kind of legion 341 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: mini civil war, and they start killing each other, and 342 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: him and Lucy walk off into the dusty sunset. 343 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: Harkness and Max they we realize that they're in the 344 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: bottling facility from the cold open and you know, Harkness 345 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: has found like a ghoul child that is hits like 346 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: everybody come out. So he calls for everybody to come 347 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: out and saw all these kids such a nice. 348 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: This is fun, Yes, this is. 349 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun. 350 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: Harkness then begins splitting up the kids into gool group 351 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: and human group, with clearly the intention of killing all 352 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: the ghoul kids. Fattius comes out and is like, hey, 353 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: like I realize I don't have a lot of leverage here. 354 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of like the stand up, 355 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: but like if you could like not kill the kids 356 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: that are guls, that would really be great. Harkness is like, no, 357 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: you guys are all abominations, and like crazy, you're all 358 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: very sweet, this is all very nice in the nice conversation, 359 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: but you guys are abominations and so you're all gonna 360 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: have to die. But before he could do that, Max 361 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: hits him in the head with the super sledge absolutely 362 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: when hundred percent killing him. He's dead. Oh man, Max 363 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: pops his face plate. 364 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 2: All that Jason, you knew Hawkness was not gonna survive. 365 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: No, no, no, Max pops his face plate Thaddeus immediately 366 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: recognizes him and they briefly catch up before Max says, 367 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: oh shit, I accidentally started a war. Let's take a 368 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: quick break and come back and talk about this episode. Okay, 369 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: we're back. Another very dense episode that throws a lot 370 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: of stuff at us. We got the Legionaire's Caesar's legion. 371 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: We saw some new California Republic folks that are like 372 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: ten years out from the destruction of Shady Acres, and 373 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: the NCR still hanging on somehow in the hills. And 374 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: we see the Brotherhood of Steel schism happening, and of 375 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: course the untimely death of Harkness. But let me ask 376 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: you this one. We talked about it last episode. Whether 377 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Harkness is a synth, a courser, or a synthetic human? 378 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: Is that the end? Are we going to find out 379 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: when Max pulls the sledge out of the helmet of 380 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: Harkness's power armor that actually Harkness is a robot? And 381 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: does that mean we're going to see Harkness again? 382 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: That would be hilarious. I could definitely see that. I 383 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: think there's two roots. I basically think that if he 384 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: pulls it out and we just kind of move on. 385 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: Then I think that we'll get the surprise reveal later 386 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 3: when at some point Harkness is just there and everyone's 387 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: going to and max is going to be late. 388 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 389 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: Because also that would mean the Brotherhood stills using modern 390 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: technology and using synth and robots and everything, so that'd 391 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: be very controversial. 392 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: So or the other option is he pulls it out of. 393 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: His head and he sees it as a robot and 394 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: then we kind of unfurl it from there, which I 395 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: think would also probably help him feel less like he 396 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: just started a global world war. 397 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: But I thought that was such a fun, interesting reveal. 398 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: I felt like Kamal's like too big to kill him 399 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: like that, but you called it. I was just like 400 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: absolutely cheering on Maximus. Obviously, ghoul kids are not abominations 401 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 3: like it shows how kind of need for even though 402 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: we see that the Commonwealth is very well equipped and 403 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 3: modern and when it comes to like, you know, how 404 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: well their worlies are kept and stuff, they clearly have 405 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: just as archaic kind of like dogmatic rules as any 406 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: other but version because he's like legit making jokes and 407 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: winking at the kids that he calls smooth skins aka 408 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: the human kids and like while he's lining up the 409 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: other kids to be killed. So this is a no 410 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: joke situation for the Brotherhood of Still but Maximus once 411 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: again coming through on the right side history. Jason, as 412 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: a game player, how did this feel? You feel like 413 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: that they take with three episodes in? 414 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: Are we too? Are they taking too long to get 415 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: to New Vegas. 416 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: And really be in that law or are we waiting 417 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: for that kind of mid season? 418 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: What do you think? 419 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: It's interesting? No, I think we've I think it's enough. 420 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: I I do think that we are basically in New Vegas. Listen, 421 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: you know we talked about it last episode that while 422 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: when you see the outskirts of it, it looks a 423 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: lot more built up than it is in the game. 424 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: The game honestly more resembles that bedraggled NCR Bass in 425 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: the Hills than the exactly it resembles anything else. So 426 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: I think this is fine. I think my question is 427 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: was it too much of the side quests and not 428 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: enough of the main quest. The Robert House stuff is fascinating. 429 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna say I need more Robert House. 430 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 3: That's the mystery I'm most interested in this season. 431 00:22:54,560 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: The way he approaches Coop in the bathroom, seemingly waiting 432 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: for him. Does he have an idea that. 433 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: Coop knows made? I could that he felt. 434 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: Very weighted to me that particular conversation, Like what is 435 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: he essentially trying to convince Cooper? Well, I'm because he's, Yeah. 436 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm very interested by this time period because we're also 437 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: obviously even though this is you know, like twenty seventy 438 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: seven or whatever around that period, it's very like influenced 439 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: by the fifties, right, And it's this kind of McCarthy ism. 440 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: Like I love the notion that, yeah, it did feel 441 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 3: like House was pointedly asking him. But also if you 442 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 3: were somebody who had uh, you know, sensibilities or sensitivities 443 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: towards the notions of communism or ideas of like socialism, 444 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: that is probably how every conversation felt when someone brought 445 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: that up to you. 446 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: So I also kind of love that duality. 447 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: But knowing Robert House, I mean, my assumption is he knows, 448 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: and he probably has some other way that he's going 449 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: to try and manipulate Coop against thinking it's against his wife, 450 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: but really it's part of the larger plan. 451 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm sure I mean, I wouldn't even be surprised. 452 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: If we found out the Coop and there was some 453 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: kind of experiments he agreed to. There's all kinds of 454 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: stuff that we could see happen, because when it comes 455 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: to his family, he's gonna make those risks and take 456 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: those risks. 457 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: Why is Coop looking for house in New Vegas? Do 458 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: we think? And what you know? When he goes to 459 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: talk to the robot Victor and is like, where's Robert house? 460 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: What is he expecting? And does that mean he never 461 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: got to Vegas the first time? 462 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 3: That's what I was wondering, because that makes me think 463 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: he hasn't, or at least not for a very long time. 464 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: I think he's looking for his family. 465 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 3: And he's hoping the house will know whether they are cryogenically, whether. 466 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: They are you know, living in a vault, whatever it is. 467 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: Maybe we're gonna find out that his wife and house 468 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: are together or something, and maybe it's like a spawn 469 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 3: type situation where now they're raising the kid like that 470 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: would be really crazy, But I definitely think that's why 471 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: he's looking for house. I also just think that this 472 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: justin through house thing is so intriguing, and why is 473 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: he just like in a men's toilet, in a bathroom 474 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: in a veteran's association that is also clearly like underloved 475 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: and not like well looked after. So also this is 476 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: a crazy one through out there, but we'd already talked 477 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: about it because of the double casting. Is Robert House 478 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: using like synth style animatronics like out and about in 479 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: the world prior to this where he's like using them 480 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: to basically spy, Like is he Walt Disney with his animatronics? 481 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: But he has them out in the world already, Because 482 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: I was like, why is he down there? And it 483 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 3: came so close after the Harkness thing that I started 484 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: like putting things together. 485 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder that as well. It certainly seemed to 486 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: me as if he was trying to get Coop to 487 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: agree that any means necessary to take over the world 488 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: in order to stop communism is the right move. When 489 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: he that whole conversation around pushing billions of people into 490 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: a corner, I think he's saying, listen, communism is on 491 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: the rise. It's very strong. Look around here in this 492 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: veterans hall. Here we've got Charlie, your friend who's a pinko. 493 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: You might be a Pinko, Like the Pinkos are getting 494 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: stronger and we've got to do something, do we not? 495 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: So I think he's I don't know if he's pitching 496 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: Coop because he knows that Coop knows about the conspiracy, 497 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: or if he's just pitching Coop because Barb is important 498 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: and he wants to make sure the entire family is 499 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: on board. Or does he want to use Coop as 500 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: like does he want to mind control Coop? 501 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: Well, I think I think that's where it's going. 502 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: I think these I do wonder, you know, we saw 503 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: the skeletons of veterans, and I do wonder if Coop's 504 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: plan wasn't to take these vets, brain control them into 505 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: thinking that they are into acting like they're Chinese invaders, 506 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: and use them as the false flag, including Coop as 507 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: the false flag to start, okay, the war, to create 508 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: a precursor, a pretext for launching the war. 509 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: I think you are right. 510 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely a great way of tying in 511 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: the early Mesmetron stuff. Plus, you know, Dallas gold Tooth, 512 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: that's not really a guest spot one episode guy anymore. 513 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be surprised if we get a flashback 514 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: later this season that shows that they say that some 515 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: communists you know, spy and we learned that it was 516 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 3: Charlie and that maybe they were able to do that 517 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: to him, you know, and that would have been obviously 518 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: horrific to Koop, and he knows how Charlie really feels 519 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: about the government, so he'd also know it wasn't something 520 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: he would choose to do. 521 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: I think that could be so. 522 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: Interesting also, Jason, seeing as we're on the Fallout topic, 523 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: one of the things that we were going to bring 524 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: up in news, but I think is a good thing 525 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: to bring up here while we're discussing the episode. 526 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: They actually mentioned recently that. 527 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: Four out five will contain canon from the show. Yeah, 528 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: so I think that the notion of what we were 529 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: talking about about Vault twenty four and stuff where that 530 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: had been hinted at in the other stuff but wasn't 531 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: necessarily canon, really to the game. The idea that behind 532 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: the Starlight drive in was the Vault twenty four stuff 533 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: like that, I think we're gonna then get to see explored. 534 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: Is there anything from this season. 535 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: Thus far that you would really love to get a 536 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: chance to play in the next Fallout oh wow. 537 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think like the I do think the 538 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: Legionary schism. I mean it's in the game right, the 539 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: Legionaries are war with the New California Republic and the 540 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: Brothers and Steeler involved in that. But like this Brotherhood 541 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: of steel civil War brewing rebellion is a really interesting development. 542 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: I will also add, you know, with them putting more clearly, 543 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: this means there's going to be more New Vegas lore 544 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: in right. That's why I fall Out proper, which you know, 545 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting because New Vegas was created by Obsidian, not 546 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: by Bethesda. They contracted out with a with a different 547 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: company to make that that sequel while they were working 548 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: on Fallout four, because it was in between Fallout three 549 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: and Fallout four. And my sense has always been that 550 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: the feelings at Bethesda were like complicated about New Vegas 551 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: because New Vegas is absolutely beloved, especially about like hardcore. 552 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: Oh it's the best, yeah, many will tell people. 553 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: Will tell you. People will tell you that it's their favorite. 554 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: And I think my sense has always been that that's 555 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: complicated for Bethesda, like they wanted it to be good, 556 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: but they didn't want it to be like so bad. 557 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: I think it's weird for Bethesda that they didn't make 558 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: this and people fucking love it. So I think it's 559 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see more New Vegas kind 560 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: of threads and lore adapted from the show that is 561 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: adapted from the game involved in Fallout five. But I 562 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: think it's great to tie all of this stuff together 563 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: because I think the overarching conspiracy talking about this with 564 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: friends last night, Fallout three is my favorite story. New 565 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Vegas is great. I love it, but it's not my favorite. 566 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: And Fallout four, I think I love the Institute conspiracy. Yes, 567 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: I love the settlement building, but I think the story 568 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: falls a little flat. If there is a way in 569 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: Fallout five to tie all of these conspiracies together and 570 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: storylines together a cohesive way, I think that would be 571 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: really cool. And of course, like listen, this is probably 572 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: my favorite game series of all time, so I can't 573 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: wait for a Fallout five. What do you think about 574 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: having some of the game some of the TV stuff 575 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: in Fallout five? 576 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: To me, somebody who really doesn't have as much of 577 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: an extensive knowledge of the games as you more would 578 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: like somebody who's just played with friends and watch friends play, 579 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: and especially New Vegas. 580 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: I love anything like this, because I. 581 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: Think all of I think a true dream of any adaptation, 582 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: whether it's adapting a video game for Amazon Prime or 583 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: whether it's you know, webtoon doing DC comics like Batman 584 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: Family Adventures, it should be a two way street. You're 585 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: not just trying to bring new people to your platform, 586 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: which is obviously what Amazon is doing. They want to 587 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: have people watching it, but you also want people who've 588 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: never played a Fallout game to go and play the games. 589 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: And that is what I think keeps these kind of 590 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, cultural legacy franchises fresh is introducing new audiences, 591 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: new people to interact with them. So anything like this 592 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: where somebody can go from watching this to then getting 593 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: into Triple A gaming via it, I think is really exciting. 594 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, I love that, and I. 595 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: Would love to see, you know, a little bit of 596 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: kind of weirder, deeper, low gameplay, like if you I 597 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: love this idea of fall Out five being like very 598 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: narratively meaningful and kind of having all the trappings of 599 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: a Fallout game, but maybe managing to tie all of 600 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: this law together. 601 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that could. 602 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: Become one of the greatest games of all time if 603 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: they did it in a way that felt realistic and true. 604 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to continue our coverage of Fallout season 605 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: two on the next episode of extra Vision. 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