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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how the heck are you a Chris Brown

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you? One Bill's Live is the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. Good to have you with us.

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Speaker 2: On a spectacular day here in western New York. We

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Speaker 2: have finally reached the sweet spot as summer is beginning today,

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Speaker 2: the longest day of the year. Steve's a good old

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Speaker 2: summer solstice. It's not gonna get dark till like nine

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Speaker 2: fifteen tonight.

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Speaker 1: I love it. We're in a hard grow here too,

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Speaker 1: because Brown and I are sitting here. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: watching the intro of the show. We're listening to it,

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Speaker 1: and producer chairs busting the door. Does you guys know

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Speaker 1: we're on right now? Right?

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Speaker 2: We're like, yeah, we hear the intro. We're ready to go.

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Speaker 1: They're sitting in our places, Yeah, just twiddling our thumbs here.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to know every once in a while you

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Speaker 1: see somebody and they absolutely panic, and it's nice to

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Speaker 1: see what they do when they panic, just so you

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Speaker 1: have it in your back pocket so you can you know,

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Speaker 1: that's a real like, you guys know.

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Speaker 2: We're on right, We're ready to go. No, have no fear.

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Speaker 1: We're all good.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, longest day of the terms and daylight hours.

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Speaker 2: The only downer is now they start getting shorter. Yeah

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Speaker 2: after today.

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Speaker 1: After December twenty one, it starts getting brighter, and now

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Speaker 2: That's you don't really notice it though, until we spring

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Speaker 2: forward for daylight savings time. That's when you really start

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Speaker 2: to notice, like, hey, it's not dark it's six o'clock anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get beat over the head with it then.

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Speaker 1: But it is this time of year when it's getting longer,

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Speaker 1: days are getting It's so awesome. And I tell you

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Speaker 1: this too, And a lot of people who know this,

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Speaker 1: who live out away from the city, it's firefly season.

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Speaker 1: You know this.

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Speaker 2: I saw some walking down your driveway the other night.

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Speaker 1: Well, my driveway I got. I'm in kind of my

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Speaker 1: house in the woods kind of thing, right, And it

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Speaker 1: at this time of year, from now until whenever, maybe

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Speaker 1: in July late July, it crescendos and it's like I

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Speaker 1: literally pay for a light show with the fireflies that

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Speaker 1: come out. It's unbelievableel you.

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Speaker 2: Have a lot, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any.

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Speaker 1: It's like it really is, like I paid for it,

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Speaker 1: Like there's some sort of little laser machine that shoots

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Speaker 1: them out there. It's amazing, great time of year. Love

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Speaker 1: the I love the long days.

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Speaker 2: It's love the long en. You can't beat it. You

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Speaker 2: do lose track of time though, Like last night, we

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Speaker 2: you know, I got a little bit of a lates

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Speaker 2: out on the patio last night, and we didn't get

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Speaker 2: out there until about seven thirty. And then we're just

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Speaker 2: hanging out there after dinner, just kind of chilling, maybe

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Speaker 2: having an extra glass of wine or something. I go inside,

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Speaker 2: I was like, it's eight forty five. What the heck happened?

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Speaker 2: It's just you know what I mean. I'd be halfway

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Speaker 2: through like two sitcoms on television if it was December,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Because we're all huddled up indoors,

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Speaker 2: like Hermit's been.

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Speaker 1: Dark for four hours by eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's just such a different way of living.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I can't have enough of this good weather.

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Speaker 2: We certainly earned it with a very wet spring. So

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Speaker 2: glad it is here finally, Yeah, Steve, it is time

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Speaker 2: for us, as we usually do in the first half

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Speaker 2: hour the show, to go around owned the NFL, and

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Speaker 2: we will begin Steve with the latest on DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 2: Watch now. Hopkins, in an effort to stay relevant after

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Speaker 2: his recent visits with the Titans and the Patriots, is

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Speaker 2: now tweeting. Tweeted this out yesterday after we were off

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Speaker 2: the air. He basically said, whoever is in my future

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Speaker 2: wide receiver group, I promise I will make your job easy.

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Speaker 2: So DeAndre apparently very confident that he is going to

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Speaker 1: To me, a tweet like that kind of says he's

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Speaker 1: He see it seems like he's open for business, waiting

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Speaker 2: Part of me wondered, is he trying to assure anybody

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Speaker 2: don't look at me as stealing targets from you. If

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Speaker 2: I come to your team, I'm gonna be making life

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Speaker 2: easy for you. You're gonna get more one on ones

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Speaker 2: if I'm on your roster, that kind of thing. It

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Speaker 2: tweet because these guys don't tweet for no reason.

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Speaker 1: He's never lacked confidence, None of these guys do. But

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Speaker 1: I'm it sounds to me like he was talking to

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Speaker 1: thirty thirty one other teams other than the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: He's talking to everybody saying, hey, listen, I'm a great guy,

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Speaker 1: right Sure. It kind of I hate to say it

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Speaker 1: It just seems like he's a little bit desperate to

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Speaker 2: That could Yeah, sure, yes, and yes, And I think

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Speaker 2: this is going to go right up to training camp

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Speaker 2: unless somebody bowls him over with an offer between now

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Speaker 2: maybe even a week into training camp, who knows, months,

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Speaker 2: maybe Steve, we always keep our ear to the ground

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Speaker 2: on the AFC East and this one takes the cake

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Speaker 2: less than a few months off his darkness retreat. Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers will be one of the featured speakers at a

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Speaker 2: psychedelics conference in Colorado, months after Colorado's voters decided to

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Speaker 2: join Oregon in decriminalizing psychedelic mushrooms. Denver is hosting a

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Speaker 2: conference this week put on by a psychedelic advocacy group,

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Speaker 2: acording to the Associated Press, and they're bringing together the

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Speaker 2: following cohort of speakers. Aaron Rodgers is one of the

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Speaker 2: featured speakers. The other is rapper Jaden Smith, who's the

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Speaker 2: son of Will Smith, and the final speaker is former

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Speaker 2: Texas Republican Governor Rick Perry, who's apparently an advocate for

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Speaker 2: researching psychedelics potential benefits for veterans experiencing PTSD. So we

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Speaker 2: know what a fan. Aaron Rodgers is of the ayahuasca cleanse,

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Speaker 2: which is basically ravaging your innards and your digestive tract

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Speaker 2: to let's just say, get all of your pipes squeaky clean.

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Speaker 2: Now he is touting the benefits of psychedelics, in this

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Speaker 1: One Yeah, I mean, hey, each to his own. I

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Speaker 1: guess we've seen quarter some of the quarterbacks you know

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Speaker 1: get well. I don't know. I've never seen a quarterback

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Speaker 1: distracted by the stuff he's distracted by. You can see

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Speaker 1: some of them, you know, were you know, got other

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Speaker 1: stuff going on, but he seems preoccupied with I.

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Speaker 2: Am gonna say this, Steve, what have we noticed about

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers play the last couple of years in particular,

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Speaker 2: because I'm gonna you may not. You're probably not in

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Speaker 2: the same wavelength as me, because that's a totally random question.

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Speaker 2: Week one performances have not been good by Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: They've laid eggs. They laid eggs the last two years

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Speaker 2: with the Packers in Week one. I'm gonna quickly look

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Speaker 2: up his game log. So last year, Week one, they

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Speaker 2: play Minnesota and they lose twenty three to seven. Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers twenty two for thirty four for one, ninety five

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Speaker 2: and a pick. Okay, let's go to let's go to

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Steve, see what that has to reveal

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Speaker 2: to us. I'm trying to pull it up quickly.

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Speaker 1: He's not an Aaron Rodgers esque kind of.

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Speaker 2: It is not. Twenty twenty one, they lose at New

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Speaker 2: Orleans thirty eight to three. Aaron Rodgers fifteen of twenty

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Speaker 2: eight for one thirty three and two picks. They lost

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Speaker 2: by thirty five. Goodness, Okay, let's see if this continues.

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Speaker 2: But recent history has not been good for Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: in Week one. Now, let's see. I think in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty they did win. Yeah, he would, he would. That

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Speaker 2: was the MVP year, his last MVP year, I gotcha.

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Speaker 2: He goes thirty two to forty four for three hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty four year in four touchdowns against Minnesota in

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Speaker 2: a forty three to thirty four victory. But the last

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Speaker 2: two years. Week one after the Ayahuasca retreat. Now we're

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Speaker 2: we went in a dark room and decided the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Were the ticket back night. Yeah, he's one a buck

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Speaker 1: ninety in a pit.

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Speaker 2: Now we're touting the benefits of psychedelic mushrooms. Who knows

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Speaker 2: what Week one could be in the story. And let's

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Speaker 2: in case anybody forgot, the Bills are playing the.

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Speaker 1: Chance in week one on nine to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Correct, So I don't know, I just is he he's

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Speaker 2: kind of around the bend, like I don't know, to

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Speaker 2: each his own as you said, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It strikes me as strange.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope that that trend continues.

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Speaker 2: For a third year. Yeah, that would be nice.

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Speaker 1: That would be nice, And that would be so delicious

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Speaker 1: to see the Jets struggling. He's so delicious to see

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Speaker 1: the Jets go up in flames or down in flames,

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Speaker 1: like a jet does I either way.

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Speaker 2: The NFL, meanwhile, STEVE is redoubling its efforts to reinforce

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Speaker 2: their gambling policy to players in the wake of the

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Speaker 2: recent violations that happened this past spring in which five

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's yeah.

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Speaker 2: All rookies now have to attend mandatory education sessions. A

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Speaker 2: group of league officials are also making in person visits

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Speaker 2: to team facilities to emphasize and clarify what activities are prohibited.

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Speaker 2: So they've listed six key rules Steve to this gambling

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Speaker 2: policy that they're emphasizing to the players to make it

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Speaker 2: plain and simple as they can. One, don't bet on

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Speaker 2: the NFL two, gamble at your team facility while traveling

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Speaker 2: don't have someone bet for you. Four, don't share team

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Speaker 2: inside information. Five, don't enter a sports book during the

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Speaker 2: NFL playing season. Six don't play daily fantasy football. Pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem. I get all of that. The problem

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Speaker 1: is that some of these guys probably come into the

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Speaker 1: particularly rookies, probably come into the league doing it in io.

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Speaker 1: Money's giving them free money to do that with. And

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Speaker 1: let's not forget it's not like when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: You had to have a friend, a shady friend who

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Speaker 1: would book you know what I mean. You had a buddy,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the guy in class who

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Speaker 1: always carries around the notebook right and running numbers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's running numbers. It's you know, you had to kind

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Speaker 1: of seek it out. Now, man, this presto changeo. A

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Speaker 1: couple of clicks and you're doing it. Two taps on

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Speaker 1: your phone and it's and you're it's so easy for

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Speaker 1: these guys, and now to tell them they can't go

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Some of them. It's and I think the

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Speaker 1: and now they got you know, team employees getting busted.

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Speaker 1: Which is why people talk about it right out at

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Speaker 2: for certain clubs, and of the ten teams they listed, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Well, it makes sense a lot of sense, and it

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Speaker 1: And like you said, there's two parties involved. You got

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm just gonna say, on this list, do you

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Speaker 1: Right. Think about you if you're sitting there, if you're

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Speaker 1: They can't make the bills. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: They're just gonna cut this guy anyway. Why am I

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Speaker 1: so when when the Bills throw their lining in the

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Speaker 1: water and free agency, they're gonna get They're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a conversation with the Leonard Floyd's of the world. You know,

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Speaker 1: guy's picking up the phone. Oh yeah, the Arizona Cardinals

437
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Speaker 1: call you. Your quarterbacks got issues and he's injured. He's not

438
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Speaker 1: gonna be there. You've got your roster has been decimated.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I like the desert in all but man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, I don't know if I'm gonna want to

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Speaker 1: show up for work every day, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's we take it for granted here in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: with the culture and the vibe coming out of here

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Speaker 1: and the way they treat their players and the way

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Speaker 1: it's by word of mouth and reputation players are picking

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Speaker 1: up the phone. But you're right in Arizona. I don't

447
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Speaker 1: know that that's existent.

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Speaker 2: You don't have a lot of leverage once you get.

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Speaker 1: Once you start grinding down into their roster and who's

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Speaker 1: there and what's going on. And you know, Cliff Kingsbury

451
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Speaker 1: kicked to the curb. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be. I am fascinated to see how he

453
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Speaker 2: navigates this because he's got guys that aren't going to

454
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Speaker 2: make this roster, that are good enough to play in

455
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: the league on a fifty three man roster, and you've

456
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Speaker 2: got to find the right commodity that you can move

457
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Speaker 2: for a future asset, you know, in the draft or

458
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Speaker 2: somewhere else, because we know the cap figures for the

459
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Speaker 2: elite players on this roster are only going up, and

460
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to keep mining for cheap labor in

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Speaker 2: the form of rookies on first contracts to fortify the

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Speaker 2: roster from the back end. And you got to keep

463
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Speaker 2: doing that and just letting somebody walk out the door

464
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Speaker 2: when you might be able to flip him even for

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Speaker 2: a Day three pick. You got to explore that. And

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, knowing how Brandon bean works. I'm confident

467
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Speaker 2: that he will doesn't always work out, but I think

468
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Speaker 2: there there's a good potential for some opportunities here because

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Speaker 2: there are some lousy rosters in this league right now.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, Well that's the thing. Most of the

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Speaker 1: d linemen, d the edge rushers and the interior defensive

472
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Speaker 1: linemen that don't make the Buffalo Bills are gonna be

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Speaker 1: playing in the league somewhere.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying, if there's a way to move

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Speaker 2: them for a draft asset, even if it's a Day

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Speaker 2: three pick, go go, go and do it.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't do it. Well, they did it this

478
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Speaker 1: year too. The Bills take big dudes in the first

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Speaker 1: two rounds in the NFL Draft and all the way

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Speaker 1: through the first four pit four rounds. You go back

481
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Speaker 1: and look at their history. They always take big guys

482
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: because those are the guys you can't coach tall. You

483
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Speaker 1: can get everything else. You can get them heavier, stronger, faster,

484
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Speaker 1: all that stuff, but you can't coach tall, and they

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Speaker 1: get big, heavy dudes Osiris, Torrence Spencer, Brown, aj Epiness Boogie,

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Speaker 1: you go down the list, Cody Ford. You know they

487
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Speaker 1: don't all hit, but Cody Ford. I mean they draft

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Speaker 1: big dudes in the first few rounds at all, Oliver,

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Speaker 1: I mean, guy as you will akers, that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a philosophy. They're hard to find. Big guys who can

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Speaker 1: really play are really hard to find. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty guys in the every draft, two

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Speaker 1: hundred guys in every draft that are six foot or

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Speaker 1: above and athletes they're I mean they grow on trees

495
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Speaker 1: in the In college football, everybody's got a you know,

496
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Speaker 1: twenty five athletes who can really run, jump, lift, turn,

497
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Speaker 1: and move loose hips. They got twenty five of them

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Speaker 1: on every Division I school. There's they're everywhere in every sport,

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Speaker 1: but there aren't guys who are six six three twenty

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Speaker 1: plus who can move. Those guys are rare. That's why

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Speaker 1: you got teams that are like, we got none, we

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Speaker 1: got none. Yeah, they look at but they're they're bad,

503
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Speaker 1: you know, not good enough. You can't find him. Man.

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Speaker 2: We want to present the topic of discussion today here

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Speaker 2: before we have to take our first break. And we

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Speaker 2: know that Brandon Bean is in the business if signing

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Speaker 2: players to contract extensions in the month of August, right

508
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Speaker 2: before the regular season starts, He's done it before, Dawson Knox,

509
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, uh Tredavious White, Dion Dawkins. There are several

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Speaker 2: examples of cornerstone players and even players coming up on

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00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: expiring contracts with just a year left signing an extension.

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Speaker 2: So with that in mind, who do you think the

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Speaker 2: Bills should sign to a contract extension next? Eight oh

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Speaker 2: three five point fifty one eight eight eight five point

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty Then I'm going to get on board.

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Speaker 2: Got an open line for you there or if you

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Speaker 2: can't call, you can always hit us up on the

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Speaker 2: tweet sheet at One Bill's Live. Who should the Bill

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Speaker 2: sign to accoun tract extension? Next? You tell us when

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Speaker 2: we return here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio, all right, sitting tight here on

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you. One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live is the program of choice and discussing with you

524
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Speaker 2: who the Bills should sign to a contract extension next.

525
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: The last one came right before a mandatory mini camp.

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Speaker 2: It was Ed Oliver, who was entering the last year

527
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Speaker 2: on a fifth year option from his rookie contract signs

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Speaker 2: the big long term extension. Who should be the next

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Speaker 2: one signing a contract extension for the Bills. You let

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Speaker 2: us know at eight oh three five fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty then number to

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Speaker 2: get on board. We do have open lines for you

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Speaker 2: at this juncture. And you can also hit us up

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Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet at one Bill's live with your

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00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: choice there and if you can explain why that would

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Speaker 2: be helpful and appreciated. And we go to the phones,

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Speaker 2: and leading us off today is Judy in Buffalo. What

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Speaker 2: do you go for his? Judy?

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to go on record early to say

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Speaker 3: that the two surprise teams of the league will be

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Speaker 3: the green Bay Packers and the Cleveland Browns. To me,

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Speaker 3: the green Bay Packers are loaded offensively. I really think

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Speaker 3: they have some receivers that are going to set the

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Speaker 3: world on fire. And I think they're Cleveland Browns. They

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Speaker 3: have a lot of talent, they just need to put

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Speaker 3: it together. And so I just want to say I'm

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Speaker 3: looking forward to the fact that they may really surprise

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, you know, if the Browns give the rest

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Speaker 2: of the AFC Nor's a hard time I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to plane. I think there's a lot that has to

552
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: go right in green Bay. There's talent on offense. I

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00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: agree with Judy, it's very young green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I will I will go it down.

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Speaker 2: I will say this.

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Speaker 1: I like green Bay in that division. Well, yeah, that

557
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: division can be had.

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Speaker 2: I like the Lions a little bit better than them

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Speaker 2: this year, just a little, not by much. Now, No, No, the.

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Speaker 1: Lions are going to be the Lions are going to

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Speaker 1: be the Lions. Jordan Love doesn't have to be much.

562
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Speaker 1: Jared goff Is. Their offense was humming along last year.

563
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Speaker 2: A great coordinator in Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Very nice. But I don't think the Lions are gonna

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Speaker 1: do I don't think they'll be as good as they

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Speaker 1: were a year ago. I think they're going to start

567
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Speaker 1: to be either Lions that we've seen for the last

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Speaker 1: five decades, and I think last year was an aberration.

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Speaker 1: I think hard Knocks gave him some mileage. I think

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is going to run his core and you'll

571
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Speaker 1: get a little stale there and it's going to show

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Speaker 1: green Bay can hat can win that division.

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Speaker 2: Steve, what if I told you that every member of

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Speaker 2: their receiving corps the top six, and both of their

575
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Speaker 2: top two tight ends were drafted either last year or

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Speaker 2: this year. Every single one of them that doesn't scary.

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Speaker 2: There is not a veteran as far as the eye

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Speaker 2: can see in Fens Bay.

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Speaker 1: I can see.

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Speaker 2: Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, Samori Toure, a seventh round pick

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Speaker 2: all in twenty twenty two. This year, Jaden Reid and

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Speaker 2: Dontavian Wicks and Grant Dubo's and then there's a bunch

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Speaker 2: of college free agents after that. At tight end, it's

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Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave and Tucker Craft, two talented tight ends, but

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Speaker 2: both rookies. You have no one with more than a

586
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Speaker 2: single year of NFL experience running routes for a quarterback

587
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Speaker 2: who's the first year starter. I can't get there. I

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Speaker 2: can't get there. I got the Lions ahead of them

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Speaker 2: this year. And I respect Judy's opinion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we're just we're spitballing here about

591
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Speaker 1: the NFC North. Detroit's defense is not gonna Detroit's defense

592
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Speaker 1: can't hang with Green Bay's receivers, whether they're those guys

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Speaker 1: that you just mentioned or a bunch of boy scouts

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Speaker 1: from Boise Detroit's defense was horrible last year, the Minnesota

595
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: Vikings were a fraud last year, and the Bears. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Bears are worse than either of those two teams.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is a well run organization and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: stay where they're at. They're gonna They're not gonnare. Their

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Speaker 1: worst years are the years they tread water, which is

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Speaker 1: what they did last year with Aaron Rodgers. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna better this year than they were a year ago,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it's gonna take that much to

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Speaker 1: win that division.

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Speaker 2: I think they get off to a slow start because

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Speaker 2: of their youth, and by the time they figure it out,

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00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: they're gonna be playing catchup. That's what That's how I

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00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: see their season playing out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe.

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Speaker 2: As for the Browns, there is no question there is

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Speaker 2: oodles of talent on that roster, and as Judy said,

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Speaker 2: they just got to put it together. The problem is

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Speaker 2: it's like a one thousand piece jigsaw puzzle. Yeah, and

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00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: they can never seem to finish it. By the end

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Speaker 2: of the season, right, they're still like you can't even

615
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: make out what the picture is and you're in week

616
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Speaker 2: fourteen pieces, where the hell is the edge piece I

617
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Speaker 2: need the edge, or there's you know, seventeen pieces missing

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Speaker 2: that you know, fell under the table and it got

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Speaker 2: eaten by.

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Speaker 1: The dog they went down the air vent, right, So

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Speaker 1: it's just.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, a lot of high

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Speaker 2: draft choices on that roster, but for some reason, pulling

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00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: it all together and making it sing just never seems

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00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: to happen. Like inevitably, Cleveland will have an offense that

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00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: can score points every week and their defense will let

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Speaker 2: them down, which was the problem last year, or they'll

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00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: fortify their defense and then all of a sudden, they'll

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Speaker 2: have a couple of major injuries on offense and they

630
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: can't be scoring with the consistency that they want to.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, oh my gosh, Like Cleveland fans have

632
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: had a lot of the same struggles that Bill's fans

633
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: have had over the years, a lot of disappointments, but

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00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: for very different reasons now, and I gotta say, I

635
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: think it's hard for fans outside of Cleveland to even

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00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: want to root for that team in light of the

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Speaker 2: decision that they made a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So right, I'm kind of with you. Cleveland is a

639
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: little bit of an enigma. They've they've gotten better. The

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00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: problem is just the opposite from what I was just

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00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: saying about green Bay. Green Bay is in a credy

642
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: division that it doesn't take too much to win consistently.

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Speaker 1: They're in a division with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the

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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. The Steelers never have a losing season under

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00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, and the Ravens have got a former MVP

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00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: playing quarterback who they just paid and started to build

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Speaker 1: around for the first time. They're refurbished, right. And then

648
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: you got Cincinnati who has got maybe not maybe got

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Speaker 1: one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL and the

650
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: best receiving trio in the NFL. So Cleveland has a

651
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Speaker 1: mountain to climb. I mean that they come out and

652
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: play their best and they're gonna, you know, they're on

653
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: a great year. They could go three and three in

654
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: that division even when they're you know, playing good. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland is a different animal than Green Bay and Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too in light of Judy the Caller.

657
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: She thought Cleveland and green Bay were gonna be, you know,

658
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: the the dark horses to do something. Green Bay, yeah,

659
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: they could have a great season and they could be

660
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: a worse team than the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns

661
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: are playing in the AFC work most of the great

662
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Speaker 1: well the great quarterbacks in the whole NFL are they're

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Speaker 1: playing in that conference, and they're playing in one of

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Speaker 1: the toughest divisions in that conference. So the Cleveland Browns

665
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Speaker 1: could be a significantly better team than the Green Bay Packers.

666
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Speaker 1: And the Packers may go to the playoffs in the

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Speaker 1: NFC the and the Cleveland Browns might not. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, at this point in history, the league really

671
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: looks unbalanced at the quarterback position and the teams that

672
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Speaker 1: are really really good.

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Speaker 2: But let's get back to the subject at hand today,

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Speaker 2: which is what player do you believe the Bills should

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Speaker 2: sign to a contract extension? Next? Plenty of choices, plenty

676
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: of players to choose from. You let us know what

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Speaker 2: you think. At eight h three zero, five point fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two, five point fifty we

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Speaker 2: go to gym in Hilton. Next, what do you offers? Jim? Hello,

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Speaker 2: you're on Jim? What do you got?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm gonna pick Gabriel Davis. Okay, first of all,

682
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: I still remember his wonderful, his blockbuster first season, and

683
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: I still can see some of those sideline catches that

684
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Speaker 4: he made that were just unbelievable. And then the second

685
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 4: year comes along and Emmanuel Sanders came in and basically

686
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 4: Gabriel sat on the bench a lot of the time.

687
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 4: Even though he's still he still had six touchdowns on

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Speaker 4: thirty five receptions and Sanders only had four touchdowns on

689
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 4: forty two receptions during that year. So I really think

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00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: that even though it's his fourth year, it's really his

691
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: third year, and as you've said many times on your show,

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Speaker 4: that it's that it's that year when they really bloss

693
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Speaker 4: them right choice.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I'm not surprised he's one of the

695
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: first choices out of the box here. Thanks for the call, Jim.

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Speaker 2: I think there are while there are people in the

697
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Speaker 2: Bills fan base that weren't thrilled with the season that

698
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: he put together last year, due mainly to the fact

699
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: that he had a fifty two percent catch rate, I

700
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: think the people in this building had won Bill's drive,

701
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 2: believe in him resolutely, and I think they see last

702
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: season as an aberration more than a trend, so it

703
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me if he's a guy that's extended sooner

704
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Speaker 2: rather than later. So that's a good pick by Jim.

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Speaker 2: Out of the gate, Steve, I'm going to quickly read

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Speaker 2: you the list of players whose contracts are expiring after

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Speaker 2: this season. You let me know if any names strike

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Speaker 2: you for a contract extension candidate. Okay, here we go,

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Speaker 2: Micah Hyde, Day, Kwon Jones, Leonard Floyd, Timon, Jordan Phillips, Tyler,

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00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: Mattekaevitch Poon of Ford, Dane Jackson, Tyrrell Dodson, David Edwards,

711
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: Taylor Rapp, Trent Sherfield, Damian Harris, David Questenberry, aj Epanessa,

712
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: Shaq Lawson, Brandon Shell, aj Klein, Latavius Murray, Kyle Allen,

713
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: Dean Marlow, cam Lewis, Ike Butcker, Shane Ray, Traven Howard,

714
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Speaker 2: cam Danzler, Gabriel Davis. Those are are unrestricteds after this year.

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00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: Any names stand out to you on that list that

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Speaker 2: you would say candidate for extension.

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00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: Yes, certainly, d Kwan, Jones, Gabe Davis for sure, guys

718
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Speaker 1: who were significant contributors. Phillips was on that list too.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. I'm kind of with I'm kind of down

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Speaker 1: with the big guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, keep all of those By adding Phillips to

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Speaker 2: your list, I.

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Speaker 1: Would say, we're Phillips and Poona Ford. Is he on

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Speaker 1: a one year deal?

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Speaker 2: Yah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So all of those guys, there's a that's a

727
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Speaker 1: big number. I mean, I don't know how many guys

728
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: you listed, but there had to be twenty five. Yeah.

729
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: So I'll say this, if you think about it, that

730
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd absolutely well, I'd like to see him play first.

731
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Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, yeah, think about this. The Bills should

732
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: have absolutely no cap problems next year.

733
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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, because of all these free agents.

734
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Speaker 1: Everybody goes off the books, I know, but you.

735
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 2: Got Josh's contract gets stupid here.

736
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Speaker 1: So CAP's gonna be two forty, we hope, right, you know,

737
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: cap will be two forty and it'll you know, I mean,

738
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Speaker 1: so I'm no, I'm with all those guys off the books.

739
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: That's got the twenty five guys. You say, that's got

740
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Speaker 1: to be fifty five million bucks freed up?

741
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna list the cap hits for you

742
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Oh no, here we go, Josh

743
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 2: Allen forty seven million, Stefan Diggs twenty seven eight, Von

744
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: Miller almost twenty four, Trey White sixteen six, Dion Dawkins

745
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: fifteen to three, Dawson Knox fourteen to four, and I'll

746
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: stop at Milano at twelve seven.

747
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right around forty seventy.

748
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: That's about ninety million for seven players.

749
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying, but you only really neat you know,

750
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: you're thinking about twenty five players that are going to

751
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: contribute significantly offensively and defensively. I don't know. I'm still

752
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to pick and choose guys.

753
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: They'll have space.

754
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna have space.

755
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: They'll have about thirty players under contract. That's all right, Okay, some.

756
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Of these guys, I abe Davis may be under contract

757
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: by then too.

758
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: You know, he's also reducing the space like that's right, right, right, Yeah,

759
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: we got to take a break here, but we want

760
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: to know from you. At eight o three oh five fifty,

761
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: who should the Bills sign next to a contract extension?

762
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: You tell us ato three oh five fifty one eight

763
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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty then number to

764
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Speaker 2: get on board. We're back in a flash here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Stay tuned. All right, Here we go

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live on a Wednesday, Chris Brown Steve tasky

767
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: with you, asking you which Bills player should the Bills

768
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: extend next? Who should get a contract extension next so

769
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: I'll ever get one just before mandatory minicamp? Who do

770
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: you think should be next in line for the future

771
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: of this franchise? We go back to the phones at

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Speaker 2: atoh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five

773
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: fifty two five point fifty where there is an open

774
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: line for you, and we go to Anthony and he's Rura,

775
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: what do you got for? Is Anthony?

776
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I think he's taking my call. So from

777
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 5: my perspective, I think like the first guy that should

778
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 5: be in line for an extension is Daikwon Jones. I

779
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 5: think last year he was like really underrated. And when

780
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 5: I think back to that playoff games the Bengals, like

781
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 5: he didn't play. I get von Miller didn't play either,

782
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 5: but he was he didn't play, and Joe Mixon ran

783
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 5: all over us like we couldn't stop their run for

784
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 5: the life of us. I think he's just like a

785
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: really important piece and the defensive tactic position ages pretty

786
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 5: well generally, and so I just think that would make

787
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 5: a lot of sense. And then another name that would

788
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 5: I think makes sense is Mike A. Hyde if we

789
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 5: just matched his with players so they kind of like

790
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 5: phased out together. I think he's a free agent after

791
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 5: this season, and so I think that would makes sense

792
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 5: we just extended him by another year just to match

793
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 5: his with player. So I'll got off the phone and

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00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 5: hear what you guys have to say.

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00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I kind of I don't know. I'm kind

796
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: of in a different spot than that. I don't want

797
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: to lose them both the all at the same time

798
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: one year. I don't want to. Yeah, I don't. I

799
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: don't want that that to be an issue, that big

800
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: an issue. Certainly, they transitioned last year when when Poyer

801
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: was out or I'm sorry, Hyde was out the entire year,

802
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: and they may do with Jordan Poyer alone with whoever.

803
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: You know, they had a kind of a revolving door

804
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: there for a while of guys that were going to

805
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: help him out, uh, and he played nicked up. I

806
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: think it's a I think you'd probably stagger those guys

807
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: rather than synk them up. I don't think there's any

808
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: reason to do that because you don't need it postures

809
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: you to do the very thing you don't want to happen.

810
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Have something happen that you can't overcome and close as

811
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: your wind that proverbial window, it makes it harder to

812
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: put together the rest of the team. Now you've got

813
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 1: two safeties that you got to do, and your whole

814
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: secondary is up and up and up for grabs rather

815
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: than just having to plug in and plug out a say,

816
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: you don't want a massive hole like that to happen

817
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: in your in your roster. You know, the Bills started

818
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: to address it in the defensive tackle room when they

819
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: signed out all of our otherwise they didn't have a

820
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: single guy on their roster after this season. So you know,

821
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see that happen again in another position.

822
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: And if you take the emotion out of it, because

823
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: I think Bill's fans have come to you know, love

824
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 2: Micah Hyde and with good reason, but the business side

825
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: of this organization can't use emotion when making these decisions.

826
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Speaker 2: As much as we would all like to see Poyer

827
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Speaker 2: and Hyde right off in the sunset together, that very

828
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Speaker 2: rarely happens. And I would be inclined to expect that

829
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Speaker 2: if they had their Druthers come free agency this coming

830
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: off season, they would choose to invest in tailor wrap

831
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Speaker 2: long term. Being a twenty six year old as opposed

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Speaker 2: to Micah Hyde, who if you sign him to play

833
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, will be entering his age thirty

834
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Speaker 2: three season. Two starting safeties as great as Hide and

835
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Speaker 2: Ployer are both at age thirty three next year, it

836
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: might be a little tough, might be a little tough,

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Speaker 2: So I would be inclined to almost expect them to

838
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: pursue tailor rap beyond this season as far as a

839
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: long term extension goes at the safety position specifically, we

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Speaker 2: have to take a break here, but coming up in

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Speaker 2: our number two to kick things off with us as

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Speaker 2: Pro Football focuses, Brad Spielberger has some interesting stuff at

843
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: PFF dot Com that we have to go over with him.

844
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Speaker 2: We will do that when we return here on a

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Speaker 2: Wednesday on One Bill's Live presented by Klaida Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on One Bill's Live hour

849
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Speaker 2: number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker Review.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be joined now by Pro Football Focus salary

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Speaker 2: camp analyst Brad Spielberger joining us on the show. Brad,

852
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Speaker 2: I hope you're enjoying yourself. I know contract analysts analysis

853
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: is never over, especially when guys are signing long term

854
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: contract extensions here like right up to mandatory mini camp

855
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: at Oliver being the latest of the Bills. I know

856
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: you had a recent take on the Oliver contract extension,

857
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Speaker 2: So why don't we begin there. We know it was

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Speaker 2: an offseason where there were some monster deals for some

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Speaker 2: you know, Elite DT's Oliver was a notch below those

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Speaker 2: to a great degree. What is your assessment of that deal,

861
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: maybe not only for Ed himself, but for the Bills

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Speaker 2: and their cap implications moving forward.

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00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the interesting thing there was you have

864
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 6: a former top ten pick in this class with the

865
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 6: Jeffrey Simmons' is the Quinn Williams obviously deal not done yet,

866
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 6: you know, in that class, and you don't imagine Oliver

867
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 6: would want to take a second rate deal in this

868
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 6: market that is exploding right with guys across the NFL

869
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 6: signed top of market deals. So when they he did,

870
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 6: int get I was a bit surprised, but then you

871
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 6: get the details that come out a little bit, and

872
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 6: you know, barely in the top fifteen, and some cash

873
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 6: flow metrics and guarantee metrics. You see a guy like

874
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 6: Draymont Jones sign a stronger deal with the Seattle Seahawks

875
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 6: in free agency, and I think Oliver is in that

876
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 6: caliber of players. So I actually think it ended up

877
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 6: being a win win for both parties. I wasn't necessarily

878
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 6: surprised a deal got done at all. I just thought

879
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 6: maybe he would bet on himself, try to have a

880
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 6: monster fourth season or fifth season, excuse me, and then

881
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 6: try to really cash in at the top of the market.

882
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 6: So I think they still want to see continued growth,

883
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 6: convert some of those pressures over thirty pressures each of

884
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 6: the last two years into more sex and things of

885
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 6: that nature. But you know, I think you could argue

886
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 6: it's buying low in a seller's market, a player's market

887
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 6: at the position.

888
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: If you're gonna rank twenty two starters on offense and

889
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: defense for each NFL team, where would you rank defensive

890
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: tackle in the hierarchy? Is it in the top ten,

891
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: top five? I mean, because a lot of teams really

892
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: put a lot of stock in the guys they pass

893
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: rush and the run stuffing you got to be good

894
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: at Where do those Where does that position rank in

895
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: money positions?

896
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 6: No, I think it's a top five position. Has been

897
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 6: a bit underrated. We did a book a couple of

898
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 6: years ago called The Drafting Stage with Jason Fitzgerald at

899
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 6: Overthecap dot com that look to do a couple of

900
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 6: things that for me highlighted why defensive tackle is so valuable.

901
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 6: The first was basically, can you find premier talent at

902
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 6: this position outside of.

903
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: The early rounds?

904
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 6: Right the first two rounds and people always talk about

905
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 6: edge rusher, it's so hard to find a good player

906
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 6: later on. Defensive tackle is the same thing like you

907
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 6: go look at the list of the twenty highest paid

908
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 6: guys and very few of them are not top fifty picks.

909
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 6: So the scarcity kind of the planet theory basically, how

910
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 6: many three hundred pound you know, guys that have this size, explosiveness,

911
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 6: speed combination are walking around planet Earth?

912
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Not very many.

913
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 6: And the second thing you mentioned too is I think

914
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 6: we're seeing more and more the fastest path from point

915
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 6: A to point B being the defensive line to a

916
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 6: quarterback is a straight line right is right through the center,

917
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 6: right through the guard. And if you can generate pressure

918
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 6: and collapse a pocket, and I think Oliver does a

919
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 6: better job collecting collapsing a pocket then maybe winning one

920
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 6: on one matchups, which would be the next step.

921
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: But it's so valuable.

922
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 6: I'm in a post and keeping opposing quarterbacks in check

923
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 6: at the top five position for me in terms of

924
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 6: positional value.

925
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: And that at Oliver extension opened up some cap space

926
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: for the Bills to go out and get more help

927
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: on the defensive front. You know, they signed Leonard Floyd,

928
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: and I think just just seeing talents like Leonard Floyd

929
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: and other pass rushers. Frank Clark was still available at

930
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: the time as well. Just drifting out there in the

931
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: abyss of free agency in June was startling enough. And

932
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: then they get him for you know, a reported seven million,

933
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: which look, I understand a lot of the money's dried

934
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: up around the league, so you're not gonna be able

935
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: to come and a monster salary, but that's a heck

936
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: of a bargain for a guy with almost thirty sacks

937
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: the last three years.

938
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 6: You know, I think what's become very fascinating with the

939
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 6: edge rushers now, is that particular players that maybe have

940
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 6: a certain skill set or are viewed as better in

941
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 6: a committee and a platoon style approach, which I think

942
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 6: is becoming more and more popular. I think after the

943
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 6: Eagles last year basically just rotated eight to ten guys.

944
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 6: We'll see even more of that going forward. Of you know,

945
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 6: I want a guy to play five hundred and six

946
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 6: hundred snaps, not nine hundred plus.

947
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: And Floyd's been an iron man.

948
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 6: He's been a guy that never comes off the field.

949
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 6: You mentioned I think nine plus sacks each of the

950
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 6: last three years. Frankly, in my opinion, his early down

951
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 6: run ability in setting an edge is actually his better

952
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 6: skill set over historically over his career. But he is

953
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 6: a freak athlete. He's a top ten pick for a reason.

954
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 6: Just long, flexible, probably not the bendiest guy around the

955
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 6: edge like a von Miller, but but just uses a

956
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 6: long arm very well and does a lot of things

957
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 6: went very well. But there have been a lot of

958
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 6: those guys around. So yeah, you say the price tag

959
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 6: is surprising, it is, but it's equally surprising how many

960
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 6: of those guys over the last couple off seasons, and

961
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 6: even right now, Yannick and Gokway still out there. Some

962
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 6: of the older guys like a Justin Houston, Melvin Ingram,

963
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 6: they just kind of sit around until July August, despite

964
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 6: playing very good football.

965
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: So and we've we've seen now that you know, teams

966
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: are kind of settling in getting ready. How first of all,

967
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: they'll have you know, every team's gonna have five or

968
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: six million bucks to work with to get through the

969
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: season with injuries and that kind of thing. Two questions, One,

970
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: where's the cap gonna go next Year's your your ballpark figure?

971
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: And two what kind of contract is Joe Burrow looking at?

972
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 6: I would imagine the cap is in the two hundred

973
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 6: and fifty million range, you know, maybe two forty five

974
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 6: to two fifty five. It falls somewhere in there. We

975
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 6: should be beyond, you know, basically getting giving owners money

976
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 6: back for what they did during COVID and keeping the

977
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 6: cap a bit more elevated than it maybe actually was

978
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 6: based on revenues. I think for the Bills, just real quick,

979
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 6: I don't think the cap is a constraint. They're now

980
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 6: one of two teams in the entire NFL spending three

981
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 6: hundred million dollars in cash on their roster this year,

982
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 6: only them in the Browns, so they're willing to.

983
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: Maneuver the cap.

984
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 6: I think it's more about maybe the budget. So Joe Burrow,

985
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 6: I would imagine, becomes the highest paid quarterback in the

986
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 6: NFL at some point this offseason, and I think it

987
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 6: gets in the neighborhood of fifty five million dollars a year.

988
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 6: I think we'll see Justin Herbert go first, let's say

989
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 6: fifty three and a half, you know, pushing off of

990
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 6: the Lamar Jackson at fifty two, and then Burrow comes

991
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 6: in at fifty four fifty five range, and then we'll

992
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 6: see if Mahomes comes in after all those guys. But

993
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 6: but yeah, I think those guys are going to continue

994
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 6: pushing that market even higher and higher.

995
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: And you know, you look at how quarterbacks impact the

996
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: rest of the roster. San Francisco gets rid of Jimmy

997
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: Garoppolo and you know they've got two guys on rookie

998
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: deals at quarterback, and so that leaves them money to

999
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: spend on Nick Bosa, who's going to be backing up

1000
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: the brinkstruck. Where do we think he's gonna get an

1001
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 2: annual average salary.

1002
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I gotta plug an article I put out

1003
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 6: last week about Nick Bosa kind of breaking down this

1004
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 6: entire situation. You know, I think it falls in the

1005
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 6: range of thirty two and a half to thirty four

1006
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 6: million dollars a year, which is obviously an eye popping number.

1007
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 6: You see Aaron Donald get a three year, ninety five

1008
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 6: million dollar contract last offseason, and you know, maybe Bosa

1009
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 6: is not quite in the Aaron Donald level of play

1010
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 6: at his peak, but I think he's probably the best

1011
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 6: defensive player in football as of today. You know, his

1012
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 6: brother was willing to hold out and get a very

1013
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 6: strong contract a couple of years ago at twenty seven

1014
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 6: million dollars per year, and we're several years removed from that.

1015
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 6: Bosa has first team OPRO, which Joey Bosa never earned.

1016
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 6: He obviously was defensive player of the Year, with Joey

1017
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 6: Bosa has never earned. He has thirty four sacks the

1018
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 6: last two years. The Atlanta Falcons as a team have

1019
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 6: thirty six. I mean, he has been a truly dominant player.

1020
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 6: I think it'll be above Aaron Donald, just a matter

1021
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,479
Speaker 6: of how far above Aaron Donald. At right around thirty

1022
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 6: two million dollars a year.

1023
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: Is Aaron Donald the highest paid no quarterback.

1024
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 6: As of right now?

1025
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: He is? Yep, and and Boza could be the next one.

1026
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: Nobody's in line to eclipse Aaron Donald at this point

1027
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: right because he just signed the deal last year.

1028
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 6: It'll only be both in my opinion, this offseason.

1029
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: What do you think is next for you know, the

1030
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: guys who we've seen who are surprising leg like DeAndre Hopkins,

1031
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, a couple of those guys who are really

1032
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: good football players, both of them with their own issues.

1033
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: But where do you see this market going right now?

1034
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: Because it's rare that we have such good players on

1035
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: the street this close to training camp.

1036
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 6: It really is interesting and you got to wonder which

1037
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 6: party Maybe are they waiting for the right fit or

1038
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 6: the right contract or both? And are the markets just

1039
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 6: not panning out as they hope? And I tend to

1040
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 6: think that might be the case here. So for Dalvin Cook,

1041
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 6: I do think the AFC East makes a whole lot

1042
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 6: of sense. I think he's from South Florida. I think

1043
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 6: the Dolphins did land Devin ah Chain, a player I'm

1044
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 6: high on in the draft, but I think he makes

1045
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 6: a ton of sense and a very similar offensive system.

1046
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 6: And they do have some guys in Raheem Mostern and

1047
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 6: Jeff Wilson behind devn h chain, but all of those

1048
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 6: guys are kind of, you know, any complimentary pieces to me,

1049
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 6: not starting caliber three down guys like a Dalvin Cook.

1050
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 6: And then for DeAndre Hopkins, you know, it's interesting. I

1051
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 6: think he does want to still get a decent payday.

1052
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 6: I think the Odell Beckham Junior contract makes this so

1053
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 6: complicated because one year, fifteen million fully guaranteed plus incentives.

1054
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 6: If I'm DeAndre Hopkins, I'm not sure why I would

1055
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 6: take less than that either. You know, yeah, he's had

1056
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 6: Like you said, his issue is missing time with a suspension,

1057
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 6: with some small injuries, although Beckham Junior missed the entire

1058
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 6: season and still sign that deal, So you know, I

1059
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 6: think it be interesting. I think the Patriots maybe do

1060
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 6: step up and get it done. They probably have the

1061
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 6: biggest need of all the teams he's talked with. I

1062
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 6: don't totally get Tennessee. But then Hopkins also might want

1063
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 6: to contend and maybe about Buffalo does circle back around

1064
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 6: at the end of the offseason. But I think it's

1065
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 6: less and less likely by the day from my perspective.

1066
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the more interesting you know rumor that kind

1067
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: of came to light is the Chiefs could get back

1068
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: in the mix for Hopkins if they get Chris Jones

1069
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: signed to a contract extension and clear up some cap

1070
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: space there. What do you think the potential of that

1071
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: might be, you know, if the Jones deal gets done

1072
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: before training camp.

1073
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's certainly fascinating. I imagine Chris Jones

1074
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 6: is hitting on Quinn Williams, who also is hopefully going

1075
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 6: to get his deal done before training camp. I do

1076
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 6: think he'll slot in as the second highest paid guy

1077
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 6: behind Aaron Donald around twenty six twenty seven million dollars

1078
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 6: a year. Well, Kansas City, you know, they're rarely in

1079
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Speaker 6: the top ten and cash spending last year there were sixteenth,

1080
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Speaker 6: won the Super Bowl this year. As of right now,

1081
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 6: they're also sitting exactly at sixteenth. Obviously with some deals

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 6: pending for internal players, but they're not usually one of

1083
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 6: the bigger spenders. If Hopkins is willing to take I'll

1084
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 6: law Juju Smith Schuster last year, whose base value was

1085
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 6: under four million, and then his incentives pushed his compensation

1086
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 6: to over ten million. If Hopkins is wanting to take

1087
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 6: a deal similar to that, I'm sure they'd get in

1088
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 6: the mix. But if not, he still wants a solid payday.

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Speaker 6: I don't think Kansasity does it. I think they've taken

1090
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 6: a second round wide receiver for the second year in

1091
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 6: a row, and I think they just believe in what

1092
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Speaker 6: they have. So I think it would only be if

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Speaker 6: he takes a very team friendly contract.

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Speaker 1: So you you spoke about the Cleveland Browns. The Buffalo

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01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: Bill's having more cash out this season than anybody in

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Speaker 1: the league. Who is in the most cap trouble? I know,

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01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: We've watched with baited breath year after year the Saints

1098
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: goes sixty five million over seventy five million over ninety five.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been crazy. Who's in the most cap

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Speaker 1: jail right now?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So they've kind of continued to kick that credit

1102
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 6: card bill down the road. They're always going to be

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01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 6: not always, but I think until you see guys like

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01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 6: Tomorrio Davis and Cam Jordan and Michael Thomas and some

1105
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 6: of these guys that they have restructured pretty much every

1106
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 6: single offseason, you know, stop playing, then I think that

1107
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 6: credit card bill will ultimately come due, so they're probably

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 6: the easy answer. I think a lot of teams that

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 6: were recently you know, it explained some of their moves.

1110
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 6: We just talked about Minnies. Why did they cut Dalvin

1111
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 6: Cook and trade Zadarias Smith and cut Adam Thielen and YadA, YadA, YadA.

1112
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 6: It's because their cap situation was pretty much untenable and

1113
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 6: they recognize the fastest path back towards contention was just

1114
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 6: cutting bait with a lot of older players, so you

1115
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 6: know them Atlanta. A lot of teams have kind of

1116
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 6: cleared their books recently. It probably still is New Orleans

1117
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 6: by default, but yeah, it's because I think a lot

1118
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 6: of teams have realized, you know, like the Rams too,

1119
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 6: instead of kicking this thing down the road a bunch,

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Speaker 6: let's just be bad for a year, reset the books

1121
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 6: and start over. And I think this offseason a lot

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01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 6: of teams did that.

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Speaker 2: Brad, thanks as always for the insight. We appreciate you

1124
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: crunching the numbers with us. Enjoy your summer. We'll catch

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Speaker 2: up with you down the line.

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Speaker 6: Sounds great, Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Brad's Brad Spielberger, salary cap analyst for Pro Football

1128
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Speaker 2: Focus joining us here, and you know, nose the numbers

1129
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: had that big right up on Nick Bosa, which is

1130
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Speaker 2: why I was asking that guy's gonna be getting paid

1131
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: a pretty penny. Yeah, thirty four sacks in two years.

1132
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: Falcons had thirty six last year.

1133
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: Right. Also, he was as you're getting ready to do

1134
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: the interview, you kind of read his stuff. He was

1135
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: a big fan and he told us here on the air,

1136
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: big fan of the Ed Oliver move. You didn't have

1137
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: to pay him like an elite defensive tackle. A lot

1138
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: of people thought he wasn't, But there's something in there

1139
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: that really helps your football team. His ability to disrupt

1140
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: thirty pressures last year turn a little few more of

1141
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: those into sacks, and life is different for ed Oliver

1142
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: and the Bills. And still he's with the guarantees included

1143
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: in the contract. He is a very rich man and

1144
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: he's you know, it's a life changing deal, no question

1145
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: about it. So both teams, both sides of that deal

1146
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: are going to be really happy, and I think the

1147
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: Bills are going to be happy with the cap numbers

1148
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: that ed Oliver's getting easier to do business.

1149
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: I yeah, and it obviously helped also in landing Leonard

1150
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: Floyd by creating some cap space, so you're four to

1151
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: five your edge rush position as well with a proven

1152
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: commodity in Floyd. So the benefits were twofold. Not to

1153
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: mention the fact that you got an affordable deal. I

1154
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: kind of compare the Ed Oliver deal to the Dion

1155
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: Dawkins extension when he signed his a few years ago.

1156
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't top of the market, blow the cap out

1157
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: of the water. It was a fair deal for Dawkins

1158
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: market value wise, and it was a very friendly deal

1159
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: for the Bills because it wasn't crushing them from an

1160
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: average annual value perspective. And he has since restructured a

1161
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: couple of times to help the team out. So and

1162
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: he's up in twenty five. I mean he's already coming

1163
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: up again in a couple of years, which is crazy

1164
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: to think, like it seems like yesterday guys like Tredevius

1165
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: White and Dion Dawkins were signing second contracts. Now they

1166
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: might be on their third here in the next year

1167
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: or so. It's bananas to me how fast time goes

1168
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: with these guys' careers. But we are asking you who

1169
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: the Bills should sign next to a contract extension. You

1170
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,959
Speaker 2: got about twenty five guys on one year deals this year,

1171
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: and you have other important players whose contracts are expiring

1172
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: after the twenty four season. So if you had to

1173
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: pick somebody to keep long term whose contract may be up,

1174
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: who is on your list? You let us know at

1175
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Speaker 2: eight h three zero five point fifty one eighty eight

1176
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two five point fifty got an

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01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 2: open line for you, and that's the number to get

1178
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Speaker 2: on board. Let's go to the tweet sheet for the

1179
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Speaker 2: first time today, Steve tweet sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. And leading us off there today is Jack,

1182
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: who says day Kwan Jones, extend him now. He's a

1183
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: warrior and massively important to the front seven. He and

1184
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: Ford will make it almost impossible for teams to run inside.

1185
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: Whoever wins the middle linebacker job will be free behind

1186
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: those big boys to erase all that interior trash teams

1187
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: will try to throw at us. Daikon Jones is a

1188
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: popular pick here. I think his value in the run

1189
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: stopping department was not lost on Bills fans. They knew

1190
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: how valuable.

1191
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: He was.

1192
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: He was their most consistent performer in that area.

1193
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they missed him in the Cincinnati game. Some of

1194
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: our callers have already pointed out his absence hurt him.

1195
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips not being one hundred percent hurt him. Injuries

1196
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: all over the defense really forced the Bills to alter

1197
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: their you know, alter their production. But dayk One Jones

1198
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Speaker 1: I think was the one guy in the Cincinnati game.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh my gosh, that was the final the

1200
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: final nail in the in you know, your your ability

1201
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: to stop that run, and Mixing took advantage of it.

1202
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: So it's I think it's imperative to keep those guys around.

1203
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,479
Speaker 1: They're not gonna They've got one guy under contract after

1204
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: this year, Tim Settled, Daykwon Jones, Jordan Phillips, and you

1205
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: go down the list poonifour they're all gone after this

1206
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: year if they don't sign extensions. So I think it's

1207
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a great, great answer.

1208
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when you think about it, Dai Kwon

1209
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: Jones played all sixteen regular season games. Jordan Phillips got hurt,

1210
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: Greg Russeau got hurt, Von Miller got hurt. I mean

1211
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys dealt with injuries. Tim Settle miss time,

1212
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: so there were a number of starting players who did

1213
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: not play in all sixteen games. So Daikwon Jones was

1214
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: a horse last year and then unfortunately this is that

1215
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: Cincinnati game with an injury and it was costly for sure.

1216
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: So I like that pick Andrew says they should sign

1217
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 2: Taylor Rapp. I know they just signed him, but he's

1218
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: the future for the Bills, especially with Poyer and Hyde

1219
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: getting older. I was talking about that last segment. I

1220
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: agree completely. Yeah, I agree completely. You gotta you need

1221
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: an influx of talented you there. I mean, look, I

1222
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: love Poorer and Hide as much as the next guy,

1223
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 2: but all good things must come to an end, and

1224
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: you don't want to push it too far where you

1225
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: have guys on the back end that just maybe lose

1226
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: a half a step. That's the difference between a tackle

1227
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: and a touchdown sometimes.

1228
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want to make sure you have quality

1229
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: guys back there to take over. Certainly, the fact that

1230
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: both Poyer and Hide are getting older, injuries become a

1231
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: higher part of the equation, a bigger part of the

1232
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: equation as we saw last year. And you've got to

1233
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: have somebody quality to put in because I think the

1234
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: Bill struggled at the off safety position with and plus

1235
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: Poyer wasn't physically right all year either, So they don't

1236
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: want to get caught like that again. So Wrap they

1237
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: bring Wrap in, who's a quality NFL starting safety for

1238
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: depth and probably to compete as well. And that's yeah,

1239
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to get left without those. Can you

1240
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: imagine not being with those three guys all of a sudden,

1241
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: a stellar secondary goes to you know, just okay, really quickly.

1242
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question about it. Garvey on the tweets

1243
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: sheet says day Kwon Jones keep him with Oliver to

1244
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: maximize the defensive line production. Jeremy says, poon A Ford

1245
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: we have hardly anyone signed at the interior and locking

1246
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: him up as a gamble that's worth taking before he

1247
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: walks next year. Here's the interesting dynamic between Daikwon Jones

1248
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: and Poona Ford. They play the same position. They'll be

1249
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 2: rotating in and out for one another. Daikwon Jones next

1250
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: year will be entering his age thirty two season. Poona

1251
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 2: Ford will be entering his age twenty eight season. How

1252
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: much does that resonate with you, Steve in choosing between

1253
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: the two.

1254
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: Yes, some, I mean, no question, they're both playing at

1255
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: a high level. Younger guys always better because you think

1256
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to keep his production at a

1257
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: high level going forward. Daikwon Jones, though, has been such

1258
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: an asset. That's a hard one. But yeah, he was impressive.

1259
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: He was he was really he had as good a

1260
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: year as anybody on the Bills defense last year. And

1261
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: that's saying something. So it's hard to callously say, you know,

1262
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: you take the younger player Pooniford, if he plays for

1263
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: the Bills like he has played in the past, Ford

1264
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks, Yeah, you're gonna be really happy with him.

1265
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: So I think that'll make it easier. But right now,

1266
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: from this end of it, we don't know who poon

1267
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: A Ford is with the Buffalo Bills yet, so it's

1268
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: kind of hard to make that call. But youth is undefeated,

1269
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you love young guys who can

1270
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: really play.

1271
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and logic tells you they have a longer runway

1272
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: still in front of them as far as their career goes.

1273
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 2: Danielle says, Ed Oliver and Gabe Davis, I honestly felt

1274
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: not one, but these two both deserve it. I fully

1275
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: understand the thoughts on Gabe, but I sincerely think it

1276
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: would be a mistake to lose him. Ed Oliver stands

1277
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: out in this group of guys. He's another we can't lose.

1278
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: Well.

1279
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: Good news Danielle. He already is signed to a contract extension.

1280
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: Randall says, First, the Schnowman himself, Dion Do Hawkins. He's

1281
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: a cornerstone of the old line between or been with

1282
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 2: them since the beginning, great locker room guy and brings

1283
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 2: the juice every day. Second Dane Jackson, head down, works hard,

1284
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 2: plays his role very well. Honorable mention Spencer Brown. Spencer

1285
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: Brown's only entering his third year. There will be another

1286
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: year on his contract, so there is time to get

1287
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: him done. Maybe he's a candidate next summer.

1288
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: Not this sound and the second with Dan Jackson, it's

1289
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Speaker 1: a good call. One of the reasons this team has

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Speaker 1: been so good is because they're play at cornerback no

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01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: matter who's in there, and think about it. He got

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Speaker 1: Tredavius White, Kyer Elam, Christian Benford, Dane Jackson, Johns, Tarren Johnson.

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Speaker 1: He got some They have played at a high level.

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Speaker 1: All those guys, they have been really good there. I'm

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01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: interested in keeping keeping that position really deep with quality players.

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Speaker 1: So I could live with Dane Jackson. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he would not break the bank to sign an extension.

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: I think he might be the kind of guy who

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Speaker 1: you could give a longer term, bigger deal too, and

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01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: it wouldn't affect the way he works, you know what

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's not gonna take it out of gear

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: once he signs a life changer, and these second contracts

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: usually are.

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01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: And I don't think the second contract has to be

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01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: huge for Dane.

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Speaker 1: Jackson, right, He's not going to break the bank.

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: He's been a spots starter. I think, you know, he

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01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: earned the job last year. It was helped by the

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 2: fact that Tredevius White wasn't healthy enough to start the season,

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: so that left him battling against a pair of rookies,

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: you know, in Kyrie Eelam and Christian Benford. And look,

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01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: I like Dan Jackson as much as the next guy

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: as far as his playing ability is concerned, but being

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01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: a former seventh round pick and a spot starter, if

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: he doesn't win the starting cornerback job this year, I

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01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 2: think he's an affordable commodity to sign up long term,

1317
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 2: and we know coach McDermott loves him, so yeah, I

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01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: think that's a good pick there.

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Speaker 1: The only thing he doesn't have going for him is mens.

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: He's a smaller corn doesn't take away from him playing

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01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: physical though, I will say, but he does for pound,

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: he brings it.

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01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: That's right. He's got grit and you know that his work,

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01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: ethic and all the things that he's he reminds you.

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01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: I think coach McDermott feels a little bit about Dan

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: Jackson like he felt about Levi Wallace. You kind of

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01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: like keeping him around because he's an outstanding example of

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01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 1: how you want your players to handle adversity and maybe

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01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: not getting a starting role, maybe you know, playing extremely

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01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: well even when you're a backup. Levi Wallace was great

1331
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: at that, and so is Dane Jackson. They you know,

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01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: they don't squawk when they're not starting, but when they start,

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01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: they play quality starter minutes. I think kind of that

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01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: resonates with Sean. You know, with Sean McDermott, he likes

1335
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: guys who handle not being the guy really well, and

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01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: Dan Jackson certainly has done that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that. You

1338
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get every time he steps onto

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01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 2: the You're not wondering, and we're gonna get his best

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01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 2: this week. You know, the guy's coming to play every

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,440
Speaker 2: single week, and I think that's part of what McDermott

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: respects about his game, maybe more than anything else. We

1343
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: have to step aside here when we return more of

1344
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: your phone calls and tweets, who should the Bills sign

1345
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: next to a contract extension? You let us know at

1346
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

1347
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: five point fifty two, five point fifty open line for

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01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: you to get on board, and then we may also

1349
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: have some time to discuss what we saw on NFL

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 2: dot com the NFL urgency Meter. Who's at the top

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: of the list. We'll tell you next. All right, here

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01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 2: we be on One Bill's Live on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. We'll get to more of your

1354
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 2: phone calls in just a second. Wanted to bring this

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: to everyone's attention, though. NFL dot COM's Danhanzeus recently put

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: together his list of teams that top the NFL urgency Meter.

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01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 2: Da Da Da DA Dan teams that he believes are

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01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: under the most urgency to win the whole thing come

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01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: mid February. Topping the list, Steve your Buffalo Bills. Here's

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01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: what he wrote as he gave them a full ten

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 2: on a one to ten urgency meter scale. The Bills

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01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: have been knocking on the door for a while now,

1363
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: four straight tips to the playoffs, each run ending short

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl. The thirteen second loss to the

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs in the twenty twenty one Divisional round was pure

1366
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: pain for a franchise that's no stranger to heartbreak, but

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01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: last postseason's home thumping at the hand of the Bengals

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: was somehow more dispiriting. Is Buffalo's once wide open Super

1369
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: Bowl windows suddenly closing question mark? Playing in a widely

1370
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 2: improved AFC East, there's a huge amount of urgency facing

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01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: the entire Buffalo operation entering twenty twenty three. Look no

1372
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: further than the recent drama around star receivers to find

1373
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 2: Diggs is an example of potential cracks in the structure.

1374
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 2: Pressure can do that to even the most solid of foundations.

1375
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: What do we think of Dan Hanzeus's assessment of the

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01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 2: Bills Topping the list of teams with the most urgency

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 2: to win the whole kit and kaboodle.

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01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know certainly, as you know, as long as

1379
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: they've got Josh Allen and this crew at the top,

1380
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Vaughn, Stephntt, Leonard Floyd, De Kwon Jones,

1381
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: they got these guys Dawson, Knox and Kinka. I mean,

1382
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: they they have continued to let's think about it, twenty twenty,

1383
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: they come out and they exploded on the scene, went

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: twelve and four, got to the AFC Championship game. This

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01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 1: team's better than that one. The roster is right. Certainly

1386
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 1: got to put it together. So I'm until they start

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01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: to level off, I still think they're on the rise.

1388
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: Of You and I have spoken at length about on

1389
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: the air end privately about what we think happened to

1390
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: last year that just you know, the bottom fell out

1391
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: of it. And it was the first year in three

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: years where they'd had any significant injuries, and they had

1393
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: injuries to you know, Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Daikwon Jones,

1394
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, Von Miller, And that's on the defense alone.

1395
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: So how you know, not stopping Cincinnati and the way

1396
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: they were playing at the time does not surprise anybody.

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01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: Uh So that and and this just in Cincinnati scored

1398
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: one half a point off there off of their average

1399
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: on the season. See that gamage that was their season average.

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: So this is a team that has it together, is

1401
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: keeping it together, and is getting better in the process.

1402
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: So you can bet they're gonna be right there at

1403
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: the end. They're gonna have They're gonna get in, whether

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01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: get in by winning the division again or getting in

1405
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: with wild card, They're gonna be in that tournament, I

1406
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: have to say. And with a team like this going

1407
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: on the road doesn't scare me either. I don't know

1408
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: what to say. Urgency to win.

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01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: Man, it's always urgent.

1410
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: That's where everybody lives in this league.

1411
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 2: I think I think this stems from the general feedback

1412
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: we got on the air here on one Bills Live

1413
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: the day after the Cincinnati loss, right, which was, when

1414
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: am I gonna win this thing? We've been in it

1415
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: every year? We got to get over the hump. You know,

1416
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: we hear that all the time. So I think from

1417
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: a fan perspective, there is this sense of urgency, like

1418
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: are we gonna win this thing? Or were we ever

1419
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 2: gonna get there like what's going on?

1420
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: And there was an arms and at the end of

1421
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: it it was like, Wow, it's an arms race. You

1422
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: know we're gonna Can we hang in there with him?

1423
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1424
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty, the landscape was a lot more

1425
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: wide open in the AFC.

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01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: That is exactly right. That is exactly right. So, you know,

1427
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: being able to stay there in a change landscape says

1428
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: a lot about how the team's built and where they're

1429
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: headed and their ability to hang in there with the changes.

1430
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, you always feel like, man, you gotta win,

1431
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: and particularly after you lose in the fashion and the

1432
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: season goes south as quickly as it did last year.

1433
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: I can I have an easier time maybe than the

1434
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: general public, or maybe when you sit here and talk

1435
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: like this, maybe it's easier to say that I don't

1436
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: have a problem how their season ended before the Super Bowl.

1437
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem how it ended. I get it.

1438
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: It ended. That doesn't mean this team is less likely.

1439
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with this team this year.

1440
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: It's it's an opportunity lost like they did the last

1441
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: two or three years, where it's just excruciating. But I'm

1442
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: telling you, last year was a lot of it for

1443
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: the first time, perhaps was out of their control and

1444
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: you kind of gotta have to take your lumps. This year,

1445
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: we'll see how side and this year whether it's whether

1446
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: it's where everybody wants to be or whether it's in

1447
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: the wrong. Another disappointing season. But what happened last year,

1448
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: for the first time to me, was out of the

1449
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: bills control.

1450
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: The interesting thing about Dan Hanzeus's list is he's got

1451
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: two other AFC East teams in the top six in

1452
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: his top ten of teams that have the most urgency

1453
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: to win the whole thing. The Jets are second right

1454
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: behind the Bills, and his assessment is interesting. He says,

1455
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: the blockbuster acquisition of Aaron Rodgers has made this one

1456
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 2: of the most important seasons in Jets franchise history. It's

1457
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: difficult to overstate how vital it is for Rogers to

1458
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: stay on the field, play at a high level, and

1459
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: end New York's league worst and North American professional sports

1460
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 2: whereas playoff drought of twelve years. If he fails, it

1461
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: could mean the end of Robert Sala's run at Heads coach,

1462
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: as well as Joe Douglas's run as gm I mean,

1463
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: they're talking about heads rolling. If this thing doesn't work,

1464
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: that's crazy, which is interesting. I don't know if I'm buying,

1465
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you right now, Steve, they got to

1466
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: at least make the playoffs. I mean, you don't make

1467
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: the playoffs after adding Rogers. Woody Johnson's gonna be like,

1468
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: what the hell's going on here?

1469
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: Well, it all depends on what causes him to miss.

1470
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna. I don't know if

1471
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: what Hey Johnson, it should.

1472
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: It should depend on how they miss, if they're being

1473
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: out coached. I get it. But let me say this.

1474
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: You and I have both had this. Joe Douglas has

1475
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: killed it as GM of the Jets killed it last

1476
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: couple of drafts he has, and this offseason without getting Rogers,

1477
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: he has killed it. So if you're gonna sit there

1478
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: and say this guy that built this roster and put

1479
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: this together, now you can also say this, he drafted

1480
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson unless Woody Johnson swooped in and was his call,

1481
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 1: which we've seen happen. Yes, but we don't have any

1482
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: reason to think any of that. They picked Zack Wilson

1483
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: because they got into a draft and all of a sudden,

1484
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: they're picking at a spot where that's the guy that

1485
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, Well, okay, you got to take him, but

1486
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 1: that's a miss. That's a whiff at a really really

1487
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: important draft spot. So there's one that's against him, but

1488
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: the rest of the drafts he has crushed it. You

1489
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 1: don't get rid of Joe Douglas if you're getting out coached. Yeah,

1490
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying Robers getting out coached either.

1491
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was a very interesting assessment. Uh, let's

1492
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 2: go to the phones. See what you think. Let's go

1493
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 2: to Scott in Florida. What do you got for a Scott?

1494
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 2: You're on one Bill's life.

1495
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 7: Oh, great to talk to Youah sure. Here's my big

1496
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 7: thing is that they all talk about the window that

1497
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 7: we have right, Well, we haven't reached the start of

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 7: the window. Josh. Quarterbacks reached their peak at twenty nine,

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01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 7: and he's already done so much before, so who knows

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01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 7: what he's going to do at the twentyn and so

1501
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 7: I'm it just asserbs me that of all the quarterbacks

1502
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 7: that talk about that, he gets put down like he

1503
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 7: already reached to speak right, I just want you to

1504
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 7: talk about it. Because I'm so happy about this year.

1505
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 7: I think is gonna be great. I'm a wonderful lover

1506
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 7: of the seam and so right, yeah.

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01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Scott, appreciate that. Yeah, I'm I'm not a

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01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: huge fan of the window discussions. To me, it's like,

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01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 2: why don't you just I don't know. I understand that

1510
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 2: after four straight years of going to the playoffs, people

1511
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: are like, well, is this team is still going to

1512
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: be good enough to keep doing that or we And

1513
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: I think one of the reasons they're wondering if the

1514
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: window is closing is the Bills haven't been able to

1515
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: get past the divisional round the last two years, and

1516
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: so they're like, oh, maybe they can't get past that anymore,

1517
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: so maybe they're a lesser team. I would argue against that,

1518
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 2: as we have on this show several times, just by

1519
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: virtue of the fact that the roster for for us

1520
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: anyway on paper, is better than it was last year.

1521
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: But you know, that's neither here nor there. The proof

1522
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 2: is going to be in the pudding when they're on

1523
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: the field and they're performing, and hopefully they perform and

1524
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: stay healthy and you know, make a nice run at

1525
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: the thing. But four swings at it and not get

1526
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: into the most important game of the season. I can

1527
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: understand why that would cause some people to doubt this

1528
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: football team. But you know, especially when you have other

1529
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: teams in the conference, like the Bengals who have won

1530
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: an AFC title, like the Chiefs who have won three

1531
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: AFC titles so and two Super Bowls. So yeah, I

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01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 2: get you know why people might be a little down

1533
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: on the Bills. That's fine by me.

1534
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. It's easier to dredge up a

1535
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: lot of really intense emotions when people are counting out

1536
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: and ei there's something to fight about, right, So, yeah,

1537
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: the Bills are going to be fine with where they're

1538
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: at being overlooked. But I'll say this, Peyton, and we

1539
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: said this the other day, Peyton Manna didn't win his

1540
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl until his eighth season, eight, and they knocked

1541
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: on the doorstep a couple of times before they ever

1542
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: got there. It's hard to know.

1543
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 2: He didn't win a Super Bowl until the end of

1544
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: his career.

1545
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, John, he went to five, went to five, went

1546
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: won these last two, lost.

1547
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: The other three.

1548
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to win, and a lot of

1549
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: things got to happen so I'm you just gotta be

1550
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: ready for it. I'm these guys are gonna this preseason

1551
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: overlooked disrespect. You know, window closing doomsday thing is all

1552
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: a result of the Cincinnati loss. Don't think of it

1553
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: as anything. They lost a bad game, and they played

1554
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: the worst game of the seed. There's entire season on

1555
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: the wrong day. And I said it exillion times. If

1556
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: you play great, if you play your best game on

1557
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: the game, you gotta win. You look like a great team,

1558
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 1: whether you stunk all season or not. So you know,

1559
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: people remember that last game and it's it's not the

1560
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: truth of who they are.

1561
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here. When we come back,

1562
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 2: we'll let you know what the urgency meters said about

1563
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: that other AFC East team who ranked sixth out of

1564
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 2: the ten teams on the urgency meter. We'll tell you

1565
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: who and what they said about them. Next here on

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01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colta Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 2: All right back here on one Bill Flive. One final

1568
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: segment to go, and we wanted to we let you

1569
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: know all four AFC East teams registered in the top

1570
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: ten on Dan Hanzeus's NFL Urgency meter Bill Bills were

1571
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: at the top, Jets were right behind at ten and

1572
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 2: nine point eight, respectively. In sixth was the Dolphins at

1573
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,839
Speaker 2: eight point seven. And it says on paper the Dolphins

1574
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 2: at one of the most talented rosters in the league.

1575
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 2: The offense has the speed to keep posing coordinators up

1576
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: at night. In the defense, now led by eternal stud

1577
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: DC Vic Fangio, approaches the Eagles in terms of depth

1578
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 2: and potential. I don't know if I'm will going to

1579
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: go that far. Of course, all of this commendable work

1580
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 2: done by the Myami brain trust will be wasted if

1581
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 2: Tua is unable to stay on the field. Team has

1582
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: a new backup quarterback and former Jets folk hero Mike White,

1583
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 2: but staying the course with the concussion prone Tua and

1584
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 2: other options were available on the trade and free agent

1585
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 2: market represents one of the great dice rolls in the

1586
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: NFL this offseason. The Dolphins make sense as a Super

1587
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 2: Bowl team, but there's also logic to picking them to

1588
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: finish last in the AFC East. Yeah, it is boom

1589
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: or bust for them, truly, I agree. And also the

1590
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: last name on that list, the number nine pick team

1591
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: is New England.

1592
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: Did we ever think that it would get to that point?

1593
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: In New England? It looked like for a long time

1594
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: it was like, Oh my gosh, they're going to be

1595
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: there for it.

1596
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 2: Do you want to know the sentence I enjoy most

1597
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: from Dan Hanzeus on the Patriots read it? Nobody said

1598
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 2: life after Tom Brady would be easy? But who said

1599
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 2: it would be this hard? Is that the most delicious

1600
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 2: sentence you've ever heard in your life? Kind of does ah?

1601
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty two season was a disaster by the

1602
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 2: high standards of the Patriot way. Woo yeah, love it,

1603
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: And they can keep on struggling for all I care.

1604
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: That's where I come in on that one. But you know,

1605
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 2: I get it. I understand. But a lot of these

1606
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 2: are tied to either past playoff failures. Bengals are on

1607
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: this list, Eagles are on this list, Bills are on

1608
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,440
Speaker 2: this list, and then others are tied to job security

1609
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: at the coaching office or the GM office. Jets chief

1610
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: among those. And then the others are teams that have

1611
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: just struggled way too long that better get their act

1612
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 2: together and at least get to the postseason. Cleveland Brown's

1613
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 2: being one of those teams.

1614
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you and I Cleveland is so far off

1615
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 1: the radar because of the quality of that division. I

1616
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: mean it's like they and we had a caller in saying, listen,

1617
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: they're sleepy good. You know they're sleeper to be good. Cincinnati,

1618
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Baltimore sitting right in front of them. They

1619
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: got to be better than sneaky good.

1620
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a rock'em soccam division.

1621
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm that division is man or man.

1622
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: You got to play differently in that division. Yeah, I mean,

1623
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: think about the way Cincinnati plays. That's good against the

1624
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 2: rest of the AFC, but they have a bear of

1625
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 2: a time with Pittsburgh and Baltimore because it's Rockham Socckham

1626
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 2: football in that division, and Pittsburgh struggle with those teams.

1627
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's got a really good pass rush. You gotta stay

1628
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,480
Speaker 1: with us, So that division is really hard in Cleveland's

1629
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: the outside looking in the way it is.

1630
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. We will have more for

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01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,640
Speaker 2: you tomorrow here on one Bill's Live. We'll see you

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01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 2: tomorrow at one pm on Thursday,