WEBVTT - Richard Jefferson's Hottest Takes

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Sloan. I just turned fifteen years old and

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<v Speaker 1>I love the MBA. Today, on Sloan Nose, we have

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<v Speaker 1>an MBA champion on Olympi and someone who is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not afraid to speak his mind. Let's give a warm

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<v Speaker 1>Sloan nose. Welcome to Richard Jefferson. Hi, Richard, I'm outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be here. It's great to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So happy to be here with you. I couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>more thrilled.

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<v Speaker 2>I would expect that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this may make you not as thrilled.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So how do you feel that your whole stint

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<v Speaker 1>as a New Jersey net I was just not alive

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<v Speaker 1>for well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what's weird. It's now that I broadcast

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<v Speaker 2>games for them. I have grown men coming up to

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<v Speaker 2>me with their kids your age and saying, look at

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of me when I was twelve. The dads

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<v Speaker 2>are like, look at me when I was twelve with

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<v Speaker 2>you in a jersey. And I look over and they're

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<v Speaker 2>with their kid, and that kid has a beard. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like used to this now. I'm starting to grown a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more accustomed to.

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<v Speaker 1>It because my dad and I were talking about you

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<v Speaker 1>last night, and it's like funny because like I know

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<v Speaker 1>you as like, you know, like a podcaster and a

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<v Speaker 1>teak talker and like obviously an NBA player, but like

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<v Speaker 1>more towards the later years, like on the cows and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's telling me about like all these glory

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<v Speaker 1>stories with you and Vince, and I'm like what, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It causes it causes actually causes some Internet like beef

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<v Speaker 2>because you get people in the comments they're like, you sucked.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you play. You only average four points when

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<v Speaker 2>you played for the Cavs. And then there's other people

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<v Speaker 2>like listen, you know you idiots he used to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's I like it that that just even

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<v Speaker 2>my existence causes people.

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<v Speaker 1>To argue all NBA rookie second team right here.

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<v Speaker 2>See I got one Rookie of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go so lucky. I mean I have zero, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's impressive. That's wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was very very happy about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats. That's a big accomplishment than you. Also, I I've

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<v Speaker 1>always been curious about this. Do you have like more

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<v Speaker 1>of like maybe a spiritual connection to let's say ToJ

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<v Speaker 1>Gibson or Alex Caruso just because you share that NBA

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<v Speaker 1>baldness together, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, you know what. I feel like there is

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<v Speaker 2>a bald brotherhood, but ultimately like there's like there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a few different bald brotherhoods right there. There's like the

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<v Speaker 2>bald Brotherhood of like, hey, we were bald early and

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<v Speaker 2>this is just our book. And then there's the other

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<v Speaker 2>one that we're just like, come over, come over to

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<v Speaker 2>Bron Bron, you know, over there, all of you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>come join us on the bald brotherhood. And they all

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<v Speaker 2>eventually will and have and and and that's part of

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<v Speaker 2>the fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Todg Gibson is definitely part of that. Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like bald, look with the goggles. When I

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<v Speaker 1>see that, I was like, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Best thing that I like about is like people just

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<v Speaker 2>see a light skin brother and they're like that is

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<v Speaker 2>that Todd Gibson Or so I'll be walking to the

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<v Speaker 2>airport and they'll be like dodge TODJ. And I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>it's so cool because I can like actually ignore you

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<v Speaker 2>because you're just calling to the wrong nav. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>saying my name in the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day, I saw Lou do Wor and like

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was just like it was weird, like

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<v Speaker 1>an la X. I didn't think I was gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>like an OKAC player, right, but if like I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a Laker, like it would click a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 1>I walked up to him, and I just think that like,

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<v Speaker 1>out of all the people in the airport, he just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't expect me to be the one to like walk

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<v Speaker 1>up to him. And I was like, hey, Lou, and

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<v Speaker 1>he like looked at me and he was like and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like yeah, yeah, and he was just like

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<v Speaker 1>looking around. It was it was funny references Lou Gwent's

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<v Speaker 1>store full name.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ask in your podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I should. I actually my friend after was like

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<v Speaker 1>you should walk back, and I was like it was

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<v Speaker 1>already or really weird, and it was already. Yeah. He

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<v Speaker 1>also well no, he was really nice, but he like

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<v Speaker 1>I said to him, you should join the Warriors for

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<v Speaker 1>no reason because like really love him, but like he

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<v Speaker 1>probably shouldn't join the Warriors. Yeah, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it just came out of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that your favorite team?

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<v Speaker 1>It is my favorite team?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. Well, given like your existence on this

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<v Speaker 2>planet over that sheer time, the warriors have been Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe if I was born in two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 1>when you were drafted, I would have been like a

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey Nets fan.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, even then you would have been so you

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<v Speaker 2>had been like seven or eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I also like, why would I be in thats fan? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna be so honest.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. I have no allegiance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking a lot about h it seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>an oncoming theme. Yes, I just turned fifteen, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is my first podcast episode where I am fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everybody we get like, we get some like sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah it's needed.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to get me a gift like that

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<v Speaker 1>would be good. No, I still think you should think

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair. Yeah, okay, we'll think maybe for your birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll donate you some of this, some hair, lots of.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of love.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can trade. I can get like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>podca I.

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<v Speaker 2>Asked for, Like I looked into the locks of love

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<v Speaker 2>and then I found out that they have much better

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<v Speaker 2>causes than their male pattern bonded.

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<v Speaker 1>So probably other people that need to kid use it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, so I know who you are now, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also, because I did my research, knew who

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<v Speaker 1>you were back then. But I don't want to know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know who you were when you were fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Me at fifteen, there's like some yeah, there's some therapy

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<v Speaker 2>in there, there's some some honesty. Me at fifteen, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just trying to figure it out. See, it's weird

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody you know you see on TikTok where everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>like the millennials at ninety five. Like in ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>I was fifteen years old. There were no cell phones,

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<v Speaker 2>there were no communications. Your parents would kick you out

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<v Speaker 2>of the house. I was just a loudmouthed kid. That

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm being vulnerable here. I'm opening up to you

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<v Speaker 2>in this time track. No, No, it's fine, we're exactly No.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just a fun kid. I was very similar

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<v Speaker 2>to you. So I wanted to talk to everybody. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to know everything. I would immerse myself in basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>I would watch videotapes and basketball games and go to

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<v Speaker 2>the park for eight hours. It's really cool. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>compliment you for you to find something that you're actually

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<v Speaker 2>truly interested in. And then you put the work towards it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people ask me all the time, hey, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want your kids to play basketball? Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care if my kids are good at basketball, good at soccer,

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<v Speaker 2>if they want to play sports. The only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>matters to me is if that's what they want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>they approach it and push it passionately.

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew you to be so inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. Every once in a while I like

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<v Speaker 2>to keep people guessing the eight seconds later I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>something extremely sarcastic and rude.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe even really inappropriate, sitting here with a child,

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<v Speaker 1>after you've given me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like future on my best behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, okay? So were you this tall at fifteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Was the height situation?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the exact same height I am right now

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<v Speaker 2>at fifteen years I was probably about sixty pounds less.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I was so I started my freshman year,

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably like six one. Ended my freshman year

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<v Speaker 2>at like six four.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you fifteen as a sophomore?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I sold my birthday. My birthdays in June, so

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<v Speaker 2>I turned was I was? I didn't turn twenty first

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<v Speaker 2>birthday of summer. Shout out birthday kids, But my birth

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't turn fifteen until basically my son you and

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<v Speaker 2>Messy have.

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<v Speaker 1>A birthday in the same week. Who knew two of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest of all time?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, honestly, God was just like, you know what, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>just sprinkle over there. You know, it's fine, But that

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<v Speaker 2>was really that was really like I grew a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>over like a one year span, and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden I showed back up at like six foot

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<v Speaker 2>five in Glendale, Arizona, and my high school coach was like, hey, Richard,

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<v Speaker 2>you should really start taking this basketball stuff more serious. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And were you a Sun's fan or were you a

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers fan or a Clippers fan?

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<v Speaker 2>What was Lakers? I would say I was a Lakers fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up here. Wow as an La. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>born and raised La?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But I say I'm from San Francisco just because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a Bandwagon fan. But then people think I am,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, oh, like my dad's from San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not. He's from New York. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to just like it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had those lies. Yeah, Like people look, I wear

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<v Speaker 2>my watch on my right hand forever, and people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you doing you right? I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I make up a lie just because that's just

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<v Speaker 2>what I want to do. Aspected that being said as

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<v Speaker 2>a person born here in La I moved when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger. The fact that you like the Golden State

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors and you were born and raised La girl, I

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<v Speaker 2>respect it be different.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, no, and you weren't different? Was you know?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? I liked the Lakers and then I meant

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<v Speaker 2>to Arizona. The Phoenix Suns were really really good because

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<v Speaker 2>that's when they had like Charles Barkley, Yeah, Kevin Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>They had some really good players. So I like them,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm a Lakers fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have one of those like Suns jerseys where

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<v Speaker 1>it was like fires.

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<v Speaker 2>That purple one? Yeah. I was poor kid growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't have any jerseys. Don't feel bad. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel bad. It's my cross the bear. Don't make a comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I didn't. You know what, Those are the coolest jerseys,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they're doing those retro jerseys. They're they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing those. I am so impressed with your knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>like random NBA stuff. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice that you say you're impressed. Most people would

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<v Speaker 1>just call it sad.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the other day, I asked my dad if I

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<v Speaker 1>could get an addenda to Coompbo Greek Jersey and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like sure, so cool, and I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted Alex at there at a Combo Greece Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like oh and I was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just awkward because it was like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just Sae's the one yet yes I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex and costofs like forget yan because.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why no one else will have it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you you no, Yes, that's the reason. I also okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like doing a deep dive for a Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Mingo Republic of Congo Jersey and they don't make those.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they don't. It was really really that's the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you were upset is pretty It was you could

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, there's a guy jersey champs, Jersey champs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna listen, you wear this like.

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<v Speaker 2>They have the most obscure jerseys, hockey jersey, pastball jerseys,

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of stuff. Check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna cop that. When you were fifteen, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you didn't play as much au as other people.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you play against any future NBA players.

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<v Speaker 2>At fifty at that point time, I think the only

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<v Speaker 2>one that I probably played with locally was probably Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Bibbie and he was a few years older than me.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's probably a cool thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sacramento Kings like Bibby Jersey, But no that he

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<v Speaker 2>was the only one where I grew up. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why basketball for me was such a random thing. When

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<v Speaker 2>I started playing basketball at ten, eleven, thirteen, fourteen, there

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<v Speaker 2>was I wasn't from LA or Chicago where they were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that guy made it or that guy was basically like,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to play basketball? We hear people can go

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<v Speaker 2>to the NBA. Yeah, I didn't really play against any

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<v Speaker 2>real like future NBA guy, So I probably got to

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<v Speaker 2>like sixteen or seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>And who is that?

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<v Speaker 2>All of them? Really at that point in time, I

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<v Speaker 2>all just well, it was like you all started competing.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter if it was Matt Barnes or Carlos

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<v Speaker 2>Boozer or you know, Shane Jay Williams all us please.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so his sons are like the twins or like

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<v Speaker 1>the top players in the class of twenty are they really? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would like love if you could set me

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<v Speaker 1>up with one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't care which one, you just want one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say if I have a preference that would be.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're so smart. Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>like it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if a good word.

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<v Speaker 2>I've known Carlos since.

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<v Speaker 1>H he's a fellow bald NBA brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he was very early. Also, he was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the infamous Beijing. I never did the Beijing.

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos and you want to bronze medal together?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talk about that bronze medal all oftentimes sad,

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<v Speaker 2>very sad. But you know what, if it wasn't for us,

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<v Speaker 2>they would never be.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the Jewish Junior Olympics, I wont a silver

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<v Speaker 1>medal for girls soccer, so technically.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had mine dipping gold. So mine's gold plated.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, that's cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not technically cheating. It's just gold plated. It's

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<v Speaker 2>still bronze at its core. Just it's gold.

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<v Speaker 1>In my heart, I never knew you were a cheater

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Interesting, I'm going to move on to you

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<v Speaker 1>now so great or just in your NBA crew?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>That fifteen year old.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't care about him.

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<v Speaker 1>That he was awesome though, sort of like, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>was your welcome to the league moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I had so many of them, I will say, so,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember Latrell's pree Well, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking fifteen year old this, but Latrell's Spreewell previously

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<v Speaker 2>had been suspended a couple of years back for choking

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<v Speaker 2>his coach. Oh, so he got suspended for choking his coach,

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<v Speaker 2>And I will never forget this. My first year, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>putting on a jersey. We're a preseason game and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here and we're playing against the Knicks, and my

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<v Speaker 2>coach is like, Richard, get in. You got Carrie walking

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<v Speaker 2>into the game for the first moment. It's a preseason game.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, no, no, we were in Connecticut because it

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<v Speaker 2>was a preseason game Nets versus next preseason game. My

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<v Speaker 2>first time putting on the jersey, first time going in

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<v Speaker 2>the game, I'm coming off the bench to coach. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>go get Carrie kittles cool and I was like, who

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<v Speaker 2>that got. He's like, you got Latrell'spreewell. And the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing that popped in my head. I was like, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that choked his coach like that to me was

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<v Speaker 2>wholly like, hoh, we're really I'm sorry for guessing, we're

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<v Speaker 2>really doing that. So that was probably my first welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the NBA moment. And then my second one was

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<v Speaker 2>the moment that I got to play against Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because Michael Jordan came back those were the

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<v Speaker 2>Wizard years and you're like, yep, I'm playing against mj

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<v Speaker 2>This shit is real. I don't care if he's one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred or if he's fifty or if he's twelve. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>playing against Michael Jordan. This shit is strange.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was it for me, so we know, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the league moment. I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've known come up with something called like a

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell is my life come to? Moment? And

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<v Speaker 1>like I was wondering, do you think when you like

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<v Speaker 1>had that poster on Clay I think in those in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the Christmas Jursey, Yes, yes, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that that was what the hell has happened to me? Moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Because like that was later in your career and like

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<v Speaker 1>that was his prime and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, shoot, Richard Jefferson, just like put me on

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<v Speaker 1>a poster like this is so awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>And the best part about is that I had Clay.

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<v Speaker 2>I played with Clay when he was a rookie in

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<v Speaker 2>Golden State. I'm a former Warrior. That's I know, Like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>she is good. People like just like this is impressive

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<v Speaker 2>off the top. Yeah, those are the moments that like

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA, especially happened later in my career, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I went to two finals early, didn't think I was

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<v Speaker 2>ever going to go again. I just loved the game

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<v Speaker 2>of basketball, wanted to keep playing and competing. Got very,

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<v Speaker 2>very fortunate to be in a process, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, fifteen years later, I'm back in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>Finals and it's like, what does my life become? How

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<v Speaker 2>am I still here? And so to dunk on Clay.

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<v Speaker 2>The best part about dunking on Clay is that we

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<v Speaker 2>ended up going to the scorer's table like a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit later again, and he just looked at me and

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, anybody but you, anybody but you, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like the hell out that moment, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>That actually makes me feel better that you wished it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't me. That made me feel better. I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>So in twenty twelve to twenty thirteen, when you were

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<v Speaker 1>a Warrior, I believe that that was the first year

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<v Speaker 1>that Steph, dray and Clay played together. Could you see

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<v Speaker 1>the dynasty coming or it wasn't clear?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was not so the first I think that

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<v Speaker 2>was the first year. So I think that was the

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<v Speaker 2>lockout year.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Tramon was drafted in twenty eleven. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>must have been the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond. No, so Draymond was drafted in twenty eleven. So

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<v Speaker 2>I showed up at twenty ten after the lockout. That

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<v Speaker 2>was Clay's rookie year. Steph was hurt when I got there.

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<v Speaker 2>The next year is when they drafted Harrison. They drafted

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<v Speaker 2>uh and Raymond. So then that was the first year

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a special I didn't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>He broke the record that year, the first time he

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<v Speaker 2>broke the NBA three point record, and it was like

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<v Speaker 2>he did it with such ease, and it was like

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<v Speaker 2>he hadn't even pushed himself to the wall. But that

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<v Speaker 2>was the first year Steph was becoming Steph. Thirteen or

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<v Speaker 2>twelve twelve, because that was the year they beat they

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<v Speaker 2>beat They beat Denver in the first round, lost to

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<v Speaker 2>the first Then they lost to the Clippers. Next year,

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<v Speaker 2>sood first year they didn't make the Pope postseason. Next

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<v Speaker 2>year they won the first round, lost in the second round.

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<v Speaker 2>Next year they lost the Clippers. They fired Mark Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>that summer they brought in Steve. Then they won championship, final, championship.

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<v Speaker 1>We know the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like that, Yeah, she's not the only one

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<v Speaker 2>that knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch of stuff, y'all, okay, but like that's Commons that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like not everyone, no, but thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so inclusive. And do you think that, like Steph

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<v Speaker 1>is the best shot of all time because of you,

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<v Speaker 1>your leadership, one thousand to the go ahead, Like come on,

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<v Speaker 1>why would it be del? Like why would it be Del?

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<v Speaker 1>It would be you?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, when I look at the encouragement that I've given

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<v Speaker 2>him over the years, and like I don't want credit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we have an unspoken thing when it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very unspoken thing when we see each other that like Richard,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would not be the person I am without

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<v Speaker 2>your leadership in your.

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<v Speaker 1>Tea, I just thought of something and like, you has

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me this is real. So you know, Steph

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<v Speaker 1>broke the record in Madison Square Garden, in the Mecca

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<v Speaker 1>where you're most hated. Do you think that he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing that as like a shout out to you, being like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is for you, Richard, Like I couldn't because he

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<v Speaker 1>could have broken it before he was in a slump.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it was on purpose to wait for the

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Knicks to be like this is for

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<v Speaker 1>you Richard.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what what I like to say is that,

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<v Speaker 2>like I like to say that I encouraged him in

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<v Speaker 2>that moment and I was just like, hey, listen, I

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<v Speaker 2>know of all this stuff going on, you go out

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<v Speaker 2>there and you do this for yourself. I gave him

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<v Speaker 2>one of those like Rocky speeches. Rocky was a movie

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<v Speaker 2>that came out in the eighties and nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if you're a familiar, because Michael B.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan was in like the New Rocky and so like,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael B. Jordan come on, so like that's so then

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<v Speaker 1>I so then I had to be like, oh, why.

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<v Speaker 2>Rocky, who is this guy?

0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, oh, yeah, he knows Michael B.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan. So that's fair. Okay, so you do no Rocky,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's what I was saying. I gave him kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a Rocky go get him speed, and he was like, Richard,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do this for you. That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>So sweet. I know he's adorable. You know, he probably

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<v Speaker 2>said it to nine other people. He was probably visiting hospitals.

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<v Speaker 1>And saying it to all the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was just like he was just I think.

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<v Speaker 1>It's carrying Fosse puppies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was amazing, Like it was just the things

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<v Speaker 2>that he does. It's some perfect guy, perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy of him. So you were drafted thirteenth overall. Now

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<v Speaker 1>people say thirteenth is an not unlucky number.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's my lucky number, as it should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that being drafted thirteenth overall made your

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<v Speaker 1>career lucky or.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlucky, very lucky? I could not. When you say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell has my life become? Or that like

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<v Speaker 2>what is my life woman? Yes, it was all up

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<v Speaker 2>to thirteen thirteen. I got drafted in the right place

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<v Speaker 2>to play with the perfect players, to play on the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect team. Everything was like I could not have dreamed.

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<v Speaker 2>There was not a team a situation I would have

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<v Speaker 2>rather gone to than one that I went to. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the luckiest number that I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>On top of the fact, when you look at like thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>look we get it. Number one picks number five. Thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the most random numbers you have. Donovan Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe Bryant, you know, the late great you know so

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<v Speaker 2>so Tyler Hero another one. You know, Tyler Hero.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just funny because you're like Kobe Bryant, Tyler Hero.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Tyler.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a fraternity. We were the middle of the path,

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<v Speaker 2>we were in the like, you know, we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the past, and we found our way out.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like there's a there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a brother out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, for sure.

0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.720
<v Speaker 2>You and Kobe, Kobe, you guys, Kobe, we're so similar.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a trio.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen A. Smith, I'm really you. I'm actually gonna change that.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut that out. Richard Jefferson is known for some crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to m M. They're hot, they're hot. But oh, Richard,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Have you ever seen a take hotter

0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.600
<v Speaker 1>than Kelly? You'r dge and you know you haven't. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't. I mean those green eyes, those tattoos, that

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.440
<v Speaker 1>bleef blond hair. No takes are that hot. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out there with some takes that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be so hot. It's gonna be like Kelly Ridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is tough, but I think we can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you, thank you, and I and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in you, and I believe in Kelly. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about Kelly Man that that's a gorgeous guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a gorgeous guy. I love him. I just

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<v Speaker 1>love that guy. Okay, beautiful. I just when I think

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<v Speaker 1>about him, it's just like be.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk about Kelly. I get I

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<v Speaker 2>could take it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm imagining him in that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, one day you'll interview him. It's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to watch that. I want to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I don't think I'm gonna be able to focus.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be so hard. I'm just gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>staring at his eye.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the Yeah, that's why I want to laugh

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<v Speaker 2>about Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, Okay, let's go which NBA player is the

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<v Speaker 1>best dressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Currently currently best dressed. That's a tough one because these

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<v Speaker 2>bad boys are bringing out all the stops. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who I like, and I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>do quick fire and I'm sitting out going down the

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<v Speaker 2>down the list of guys best dressed. Let's go with

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly Obray.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kelly, Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's there's so many guys I like Poppy.

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<v Speaker 1>Two words Poppy?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is that a thing? That's that's his nickname? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Tsunami Poppy, Okay, just dripping beautiful dress. Okay, I got.

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<v Speaker 1>Which NBA player currently has the best shoe game? So

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<v Speaker 1>I like to say this every time. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't say p J. Tucker, I just think you're just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just weird. Like, yeah, I was going to throw

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<v Speaker 2>him in the best dress because I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>add his shoe game Justice Clean. But yeah, his shoe

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<v Speaker 2>game is like, that's the that's the same.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not Poppy. He's not listen, no one is no

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<v Speaker 1>one is not even Champagne Poppy.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell him that. Don't tell him that. He'll start

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<v Speaker 2>singing Drake. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not as beautiful but close close, But no one,

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<v Speaker 1>No one's like this to not me. Okay, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest NBA player? I knew this one was going

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<v Speaker 1>to get you going because I know what you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, like people that I had played against, or just

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<v Speaker 2>just go current current. Okay, listen, I'm saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people I still say against I was alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Duncan is one of the funniest players and teammates

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever had. Currently currently, I'm gonna say this, there's

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<v Speaker 2>two Klay Thompson and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, he just

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<v Speaker 2>some of his interviews are is so funny. But Clay Thompson.

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<v Speaker 2>No one has a better time than Clay. No one

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<v Speaker 2>has a better time than Clay. He's on his boat,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got his dog. You never know what he's gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>He just takes his boat out. But Clay, to me

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<v Speaker 2>is when I say funniest, He's just one of those

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<v Speaker 2>guys that like is super funny but doesn't know why

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<v Speaker 2>he's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just flew off on the boat like that was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was like life being funny to him. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really think he was the one Anthony Edwards is like

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<v Speaker 1>good at being funny, good at being funny, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he's been like I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he named his dog like Junior, right like Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Edwards Junior. He already named his dog that, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just like good for you, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So good and or like when he did his top

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<v Speaker 1>five players of all time and he like was like myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that he should he should believe that. But no

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<v Speaker 2>one has more fun than Clay, and Clay has fun

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<v Speaker 2>good for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Which NBA player currently is the most overrated?

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<v Speaker 2>Most overrated?

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<v Speaker 1>The nice thing about you is I know you're gonna answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer most over aid player. That's a good one. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say this Zion Williamson. And I'm not gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>go at Zion from that standpoint, but I want Zion

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<v Speaker 2>to earn the greatness that he is entitled to. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's got all the attention, all the love, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>my thing is this, when the facts change, so will

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<v Speaker 2>my opinions. So that means he could go on and

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<v Speaker 2>they will change one hundred percent believe in him. But

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<v Speaker 2>right now, the attention that he gets, the love that

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<v Speaker 2>he gets, and he's been injured unfortunately in some other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he doesn't get a lot of love.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually right, So this is not hate. This is

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<v Speaker 2>more of saying like, hey, hey, all the dunks, all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff is great when we are in the business

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<v Speaker 2>of getting paid to win and perform. If you're not

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<v Speaker 2>winning and performing, then then criticism is going to come.

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<v Speaker 2>So I believe he will improve. But right now I

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<v Speaker 2>think he would be the most overrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think that that's understandable. Let's look at us,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go I mean, if he wants to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and be as good as he has the potential

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<v Speaker 1>to be, he has to go out there. He needs

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<v Speaker 1>to really perform like we know he can. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest starting All Star ever, but he needs to really

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<v Speaker 1>be that bad dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, yeah, give me sixty five games. Give me sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five games this year. Take your team to the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>I will shut my mouth, salute you, and say you

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<v Speaker 2>deserve on the All NBA team currently right now I

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<v Speaker 2>need more from you, og, Yeah, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, listen. Yeah, I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure he's

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<v Speaker 1>like sitting comfortably in the mansion right now. But like

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<v Speaker 1>if he'll he'll he'll be fine no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>Most underrated, most underrated, ooh, this is a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I think Chris Middleton. I'll say Chris Middleton.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why I say Chris Middleton is because

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<v Speaker 2>we know he's a champion, we know he's an All Star.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you greatly underestimate his importance to a

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<v Speaker 2>championship team. Last year, if they would have had him,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they would have repeated his champions in my opinion, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the Golden State Warriors. It would have been a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>It would have been a good battle. Would But I

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<v Speaker 2>think Chris Middleton is so important to the success of

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<v Speaker 2>Yannis because Jannis might be shack. Chris Middleton kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fills in the gaps, very similar to how Kobe would.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think like he's just one of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>that if he would have been healthy and their team

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<v Speaker 2>is healthy, he is so they like they took him

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<v Speaker 2>to seven, They took the Boston Celtics to seven without him, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like if he would have been there,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have won. They Yeah, they would have won

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<v Speaker 2>in five or six.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel he's properly rated, though, see because he's been an

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<v Speaker 1>alser maybe like four or few or four times many

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<v Speaker 1>times where you're sort of like, huh, how did he

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<v Speaker 1>get there?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the underrated part is I don't think people

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<v Speaker 2>understand why, why and how good he is. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's one of the top thirty players in the part.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know, but he's like he's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>top thirty players in the league. But like his importance

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<v Speaker 2>level is probably closer to top ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>What importance? And that means that like if Chris Middle

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<v Speaker 2>and Giannis and those guys are healthy, then he'll then

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<v Speaker 2>you start to see, like he closes the games, he

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<v Speaker 2>makes the late game plays, he does all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And Giannis is just that monster that does everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a monster. He's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Which NBA player is the best singer?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh? Any of these guys get any talent? I don't know.

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 2>They're all rapping now. Everybody's got there, everybody's got their own.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Victor Oladipo's actually no, he was on the mass

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<v Speaker 1>singer and he like almost won, Like he's actually really

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<v Speaker 1>good singer. I can see that he is real talent

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I can see.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't get that far right with some

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of the guys's extracurriculars. But there are no because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like there's four hundred and fifty players, there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be one hundred percent of guy that can play instruments,

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<v Speaker 2>play music, that can play other sports play. I can

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<v Speaker 2>see Oladipo being a great singer. Yeah, I got no

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 2>issue with that. It's him. He's the best singer, best singer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Victor, you you got so proud of him. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going on to another segment called Muggsy or Minute.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know Muggsy Bogues you're player ever insulting, but yes.

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<v Speaker 2>You're young, you're still growing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I was just giving you a little I

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<v Speaker 2>was just trying to I was just trying to like

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<v Speaker 2>help you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, and then New Bowl tallest NBA player of

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<v Speaker 1>all time on the same team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Wizards, Bullets, bullets. You know, I don't want to bullets.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's not going to bring you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to say Indians, I was gonna say Guardians.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, see.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting controversy controversial.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like I just was saying the current

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 2>team name versus that's not like.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Is bullets really like that controversy?

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, when they had the highest rate and crime rate, it.

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Was kind of like they're like, maybe we should change.

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Like it's kind of awkward bullets. Yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also get another way with like presidents being

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<v Speaker 1>assassinated with there's.

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>A lot we don't need bullets, you know, as Guilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>But like this is getting awkward too. Wow, I need

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to get out of this. Okay, now, let's just go

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>go go fast. We're a talk.

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't care how long this thing takes. I'll stay

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>here all day.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go MJ or Kobe, last shot j Lebron James

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<v Speaker 1>on the Calves or Lebron James on the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Calves, second stint, Calves.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're giving you credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Second stint, Calves. Okay, I'll do this. First stint Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the most physically.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, never.

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers or Clippers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is the Lakers town.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know this season.

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>That was the answer. Final answer, Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing basketball or reffing basket.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, playing basketball will never read I'm a terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>You really are rams? Are Cardinals?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what? Ramsay? Because you for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why because when you were born in LA, they weren't

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>they were in Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is why. Because when I moved to Arizona,

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals were trashed for like a decade, and I

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, I hate them. So then I always said,

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the first team that moves back to LA will be

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 2>my team. That's gonna be my football team. Because I

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't like the Cardinals, and then I just didn't have

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>a team. I'd support it.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Now you could like, but now I know, screw the Cardinals.

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I love the Rams. That is my team. I went

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>to the Super Bowl, went to the Let's Go Together.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cute. Yeah, so awesome, Great, it's so much fun.

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you sometimes remind me of a teenage girl?

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Me? Yeah, I have a lot of that vibe. That's

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>why all the teenage boys like to follow me.

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>But also your like comedy is like a teenage boy.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram or TikTok TikTok easy easy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's also you.

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<v Speaker 1>Only post tiktoks on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing I post. I used to try

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<v Speaker 2>and post Instagram. But I'm not gonna like that's not

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about TikTok Steph or Magic Magic And that's.

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<v Speaker 2>No disrespect Steph. That's fine. You could be mad. People

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to say, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>After all this, come on, people say this fourth ring

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<v Speaker 1>though I don't even want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Steph, Like I said, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>there is a better because I love this game so much,

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<v Speaker 2>like I like, I love it like to my core,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I love people that represent the game the

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<v Speaker 2>right way, and there is not a better representative on

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<v Speaker 2>this planet than Steph. And I stand that with Lebron.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Steph has done so much for this game.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Bron all these guys, but Steph. Yes, he's

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<v Speaker 2>that dude. Magic Johnson though, like we forget that this

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<v Speaker 2>league almost was like about to like fold and not

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<v Speaker 2>even exist, and Magic was one of those guys that

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<v Speaker 2>has changed it. Yes, but so did Magic Johnson. So

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<v Speaker 2>did Magic Johnson, So Didareem adul Jabbar so like, and

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<v Speaker 2>so did Shaquille O'Neil. So obviously from from a standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is a quick history lesson. Everyone says that

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<v Speaker 2>Steph changes the game. That is true, he did change

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<v Speaker 2>the game, but that implies that he's the only person

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<v Speaker 2>to ever change the game over the course of basketball history. Shack.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to literally change the equipment for Shack. He

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<v Speaker 2>was that physical, that strong, Magic Johnson. There had never

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<v Speaker 2>been a six to nine point guard ever done anything

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<v Speaker 2>that really saved the game. Him and Larry Bird known

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<v Speaker 2>as saving the game. Kareem adul Jabbar. They wouldn't allow

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<v Speaker 2>him to dunk the basketball because it was too easy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why he created the skyhook. Because they outlawed dunking.

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<v Speaker 2>They made a rule that said you couldn't dunk. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the definition of changing the game. So when people talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Steph changing the game, there's a history of players

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<v Speaker 2>being so impactful and Steph belongs to I'm such a nerd,

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<v Speaker 2>such a nerd. That's why I like that you were

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<v Speaker 2>a nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, she's I am sort of as.

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<v Speaker 2>You're such a nerd. That's why I can spot, but

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<v Speaker 2>I like cover it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you just like are proud of all at.

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<v Speaker 2>This point in time. It's like I'm forty two there,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no other skills. I'm like, yeah, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>basketball nerd. Yeah, I love it. It's whatever. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit it is. It's not even a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of It's a lot of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're like a soccer fan here, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but Rinaldo or Messy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm gonna say Ronaldo really why, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like I look, I know Messi's a stud and

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<v Speaker 2>a little guy. But I like the athleticism because to

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<v Speaker 2>be big and strong and skilled impressive. But yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know. But Ronald, I like, Christiano's

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<v Speaker 2>story is really really cool and he has He's that dude?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that dude?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we ended it on this.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. I'm nervous. I feel like this would

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<v Speaker 2>be a drum roll? Can you guys dr drum roll

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<v Speaker 2>on post? All right? Doris Burke or me Doris? And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not even a question. But Doris is amazing and

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<v Speaker 2>you should get Doris to sit right here. Doris is

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<v Speaker 2>the godmother of basketball. Like, think about that godmother of basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll you call her for advice, She'll give you advice

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<v Speaker 2>and she'll shoot you straight. She'll give you some love,

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<v Speaker 2>she'll give you some some hugs. She'll give you some

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<v Speaker 2>shut the hell ups. She'll She is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most amazing people that I've ever met in this industry

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<v Speaker 2>by far, and you should get to know her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm also one of the most amazing people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I said you should get to know

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<v Speaker 2>where to you like amazing you clearly, Doris Burke. You

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<v Speaker 2>should get her in this seat, Doris Dori.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's sitting the seat the two best it's number one

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<v Speaker 1>and number two.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a baby goat called?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a baby goat?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. There's like, what is the what is

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<v Speaker 2>the what is a baby horse called?

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<v Speaker 1>Opponent?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, no, no, that's a long word. No ponies, just

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<v Speaker 1>a small horse. I don't know what it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Called, but there is. But there is like half No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a cow woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever known a woman before. That's it feel so big?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you're fifteen? You're fifteen? Yeah? Wow? Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, all right, yeah, okay, good yeah, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening to this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Sloan Notes with me and Richard Jefferson, the NBA player

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<v Speaker 1>with the worst tattoo ever. If you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>more videos of Richard and I make sure to follow

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