Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sloan. I just turned fifteen years old and
Speaker 1: I love the MBA. Today, on Sloan Nose, we have
Speaker 1: an MBA champion on Olympi and someone who is definitely
Speaker 1: not afraid to speak his mind. Let's give a warm
Speaker 1: Sloan nose. Welcome to Richard Jefferson. Hi, Richard, I'm outstanding.
Speaker 1: It's great to see.
Speaker 2: Great to be here. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1: So happy to be here with you. I couldn't be
Speaker 1: more thrilled.
Speaker 2: I would expect that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this may make you not as thrilled.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you feel that your whole stint
Speaker 1: as a New Jersey net I was just not alive
Speaker 1: for well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's weird. It's now that I broadcast
Speaker 2: games for them. I have grown men coming up to
Speaker 2: me with their kids your age and saying, look at
Speaker 2: a picture of me when I was twelve. The dads
Speaker 2: are like, look at me when I was twelve with
Speaker 2: you in a jersey. And I look over and they're
Speaker 2: with their kid, and that kid has a beard. I'm
Speaker 2: like used to this now. I'm starting to grown a
Speaker 2: little bit more accustomed to.
Speaker 1: It because my dad and I were talking about you
Speaker 1: last night, and it's like funny because like I know
Speaker 1: you as like, you know, like a podcaster and a
Speaker 1: teak talker and like obviously an NBA player, but like
Speaker 1: more towards the later years, like on the cows and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then he's telling me about like all these glory
Speaker 1: stories with you and Vince, and I'm like what, Like,
Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It causes it causes actually causes some Internet like beef
Speaker 2: because you get people in the comments they're like, you sucked.
Speaker 2: I saw you play. You only average four points when
Speaker 2: you played for the Cavs. And then there's other people
Speaker 2: like listen, you know you idiots he used to Yeah,
Speaker 2: So it's it's I like it that that just even
Speaker 2: my existence causes people.
Speaker 1: To argue all NBA rookie second team right here.
Speaker 2: See I got one Rookie of the year.
Speaker 1: Let's go so lucky. I mean I have zero, So
Speaker 1: that's impressive. That's wow.
Speaker 2: I was. I was very very happy about that.
Speaker 1: Congrats. That's a big accomplishment than you. Also, I I've
Speaker 1: always been curious about this. Do you have like more
Speaker 1: of like maybe a spiritual connection to let's say ToJ
Speaker 1: Gibson or Alex Caruso just because you share that NBA
Speaker 1: baldness together, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, you know what. I feel like there is
Speaker 2: a bald brotherhood, but ultimately like there's like there's like
Speaker 2: a few different bald brotherhoods right there. There's like the
Speaker 2: bald Brotherhood of like, hey, we were bald early and
Speaker 2: this is just our book. And then there's the other
Speaker 2: one that we're just like, come over, come over to
Speaker 2: Bron Bron, you know, over there, all of you guys,
Speaker 2: come join us on the bald brotherhood. And they all
Speaker 2: eventually will and have and and and that's part of
Speaker 2: the fun.
Speaker 1: Todg Gibson is definitely part of that. Like I feel
Speaker 1: like they're like bald, look with the goggles. When I
Speaker 1: see that, I was like, the.
Speaker 2: Best thing that I like about is like people just
Speaker 2: see a light skin brother and they're like that is
Speaker 2: that Todd Gibson Or so I'll be walking to the
Speaker 2: airport and they'll be like dodge TODJ. And I'm like
Speaker 2: it's so cool because I can like actually ignore you
Speaker 2: because you're just calling to the wrong nav. You're not
Speaker 2: saying my name in the airport.
Speaker 1: The other day, I saw Lou do Wor and like
Speaker 1: it was it was just like it was weird, like
Speaker 1: an la X. I didn't think I was gonna see
Speaker 1: like an OKAC player, right, but if like I saw
Speaker 1: a Laker, like it would click a little bit. And
Speaker 1: I walked up to him, and I just think that like,
Speaker 1: out of all the people in the airport, he just
Speaker 1: didn't expect me to be the one to like walk
Speaker 1: up to him. And I was like, hey, Lou, and
Speaker 1: he like looked at me and he was like and
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, yeah, and he was just like
Speaker 1: looking around. It was it was funny references Lou Gwent's
Speaker 1: store full name.
Speaker 2: Did you ask in your podcast?
Speaker 1: No, I should. I actually my friend after was like
Speaker 1: you should walk back, and I was like it was
Speaker 1: already or really weird, and it was already. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: also well no, he was really nice, but he like
Speaker 1: I said to him, you should join the Warriors for
Speaker 1: no reason because like really love him, but like he
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't join the Warriors. Yeah, And I don't know
Speaker 1: why it just came out of my mouth.
Speaker 2: Is that your favorite team?
Speaker 1: It is my favorite team?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Well, given like your existence on this
Speaker 2: planet over that sheer time, the warriors have been Like.
Speaker 1: Maybe if I was born in two thousand and one
Speaker 1: when you were drafted, I would have been like a
Speaker 1: New Jersey Nets fan.
Speaker 2: But yeah, even then you would have been so you
Speaker 2: had been like seven or eight.
Speaker 1: I also like, why would I be in thats fan? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be so honest.
Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. I have no allegiance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: We're talking a lot about h it seems to be
Speaker 1: an oncoming theme. Yes, I just turned fifteen, so this
Speaker 1: is my first podcast episode where I am fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody we get like, we get some like sounds
Speaker 2: like yeah it's needed.
Speaker 1: If you want to get me a gift like that
Speaker 1: would be good. No, I still think you should think
Speaker 1: that's fair. Yeah, okay, we'll think maybe for your birthday,
Speaker 1: I'll donate you some of this, some hair, lots of.
Speaker 2: Lots of love.
Speaker 1: Maybe you can trade. I can get like a nice
Speaker 1: podca I.
Speaker 2: Asked for, Like I looked into the locks of love
Speaker 2: and then I found out that they have much better
Speaker 2: causes than their male pattern bonded.
Speaker 1: So probably other people that need to kid use it
Speaker 1: a little bit more, so I know who you are now, okay.
Speaker 1: And I also, because I did my research, knew who
Speaker 1: you were back then. But I don't want to know that.
Speaker 1: I want to know who you were when you were fifteen.
Speaker 2: Me at fifteen, there's like some yeah, there's some therapy
Speaker 2: in there, there's some some honesty. Me at fifteen, I
Speaker 2: was just trying to figure it out. See, it's weird
Speaker 2: like everybody you know you see on TikTok where everyone's
Speaker 2: like the millennials at ninety five. Like in ninety five,
Speaker 2: I was fifteen years old. There were no cell phones,
Speaker 2: there were no communications. Your parents would kick you out
Speaker 2: of the house. I was just a loudmouthed kid. That
Speaker 2: just I'm being vulnerable here. I'm opening up to you
Speaker 2: in this time track. No, No, it's fine, we're exactly No.
Speaker 2: I was just a fun kid. I was very similar
Speaker 2: to you. So I wanted to talk to everybody. I
Speaker 2: wanted to know everything. I would immerse myself in basketball.
Speaker 2: I would watch videotapes and basketball games and go to
Speaker 2: the park for eight hours. It's really cool. And I'll
Speaker 2: compliment you for you to find something that you're actually
Speaker 2: truly interested in. And then you put the work towards it.
Speaker 2: You know, people ask me all the time, hey, do
Speaker 2: you want your kids to play basketball? Like, I don't
Speaker 2: care if my kids are good at basketball, good at soccer,
Speaker 2: if they want to play sports. The only thing that
Speaker 2: matters to me is if that's what they want to do,
Speaker 2: they approach it and push it passionately.
Speaker 1: I never knew you to be so inspiration.
Speaker 2: You know what. Every once in a while I like
Speaker 2: to keep people guessing the eight seconds later I'll say
Speaker 2: something extremely sarcastic and rude.
Speaker 1: Or maybe even really inappropriate, sitting here with a child,
Speaker 1: after you've given me.
Speaker 2: Like future on my best behavior.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay? So were you this tall at fifteen?
Speaker 1: Was the height situation?
Speaker 2: It was the exact same height I am right now
Speaker 2: at fifteen years I was probably about sixty pounds less.
Speaker 2: But when I was so I started my freshman year,
Speaker 2: I was probably like six one. Ended my freshman year
Speaker 2: at like six four.
Speaker 1: So were you fifteen as a sophomore?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I sold my birthday. My birthdays in June, so
Speaker 2: I turned was I was? I didn't turn twenty first
Speaker 2: birthday of summer. Shout out birthday kids, But my birth
Speaker 2: I didn't turn fifteen until basically my son you and
Speaker 2: Messy have.
Speaker 1: A birthday in the same week. Who knew two of
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time?
Speaker 2: Honestly, honestly, God was just like, you know what, We'll
Speaker 2: just sprinkle over there. You know, it's fine, But that
Speaker 2: was really that was really like I grew a bunch
Speaker 2: over like a one year span, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden I showed back up at like six foot
Speaker 2: five in Glendale, Arizona, and my high school coach was like, hey, Richard,
Speaker 2: you should really start taking this basketball stuff more serious. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And were you a Sun's fan or were you a
Speaker 1: Lakers fan or a Clippers fan?
Speaker 2: What was Lakers? I would say I was a Lakers fan.
Speaker 2: I grew up here. Wow as an La. Are you
Speaker 2: born and raised La?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I say I'm from San Francisco just because
Speaker 1: I'm not a Bandwagon fan. But then people think I am,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, like my dad's from San Francisco,
Speaker 1: but he's not. He's from New York. I just want
Speaker 1: to just like it's okay.
Speaker 2: I've had those lies. Yeah, Like people look, I wear
Speaker 2: my watch on my right hand forever, and people are like,
Speaker 2: why are you doing you right? I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: and I make up a lie just because that's just
Speaker 2: what I want to do. Aspected that being said as
Speaker 2: a person born here in La I moved when I
Speaker 2: was younger. The fact that you like the Golden State
Speaker 2: Warriors and you were born and raised La girl, I
Speaker 2: respect it be different.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no, and you weren't different? Was you know?
Speaker 2: It was? I liked the Lakers and then I meant
Speaker 2: to Arizona. The Phoenix Suns were really really good because
Speaker 2: that's when they had like Charles Barkley, Yeah, Kevin Johnson.
Speaker 2: They had some really good players. So I like them,
Speaker 2: but I'm a Lakers fan.
Speaker 1: Do you have one of those like Suns jerseys where
Speaker 1: it was like fires.
Speaker 2: That purple one? Yeah. I was poor kid growing up,
Speaker 2: so I didn't have any jerseys. Don't feel bad. Don't
Speaker 2: feel bad. It's my cross the bear. Don't make a comment.
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. You know what, Those are the coolest jerseys,
Speaker 2: and I think they're doing those retro jerseys. They're they're
Speaker 2: doing those. I am so impressed with your knowledge of
Speaker 2: like random NBA stuff. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It's nice that you say you're impressed. Most people would
Speaker 1: just call it sad.
Speaker 2: No. No.
Speaker 1: Like the other day, I asked my dad if I
Speaker 1: could get an addenda to Coompbo Greek Jersey and he
Speaker 1: was like sure, so cool, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I wanted Alex at there at a Combo Greece Jersey.
Speaker 1: And he was like oh and I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was just awkward because it was like it was.
Speaker 2: Just Sae's the one yet yes I want.
Speaker 1: Alex and costofs like forget yan because.
Speaker 2: You know why no one else will have it?
Speaker 1: Oh you you no, Yes, that's the reason. I also okay,
Speaker 1: I was like doing a deep dive for a Jonathan
Speaker 1: Mingo Republic of Congo Jersey and they don't make those.
Speaker 1: I was really upset.
Speaker 2: Yeah they don't. It was really really that's the fact
Speaker 2: that you were upset is pretty It was you could
Speaker 2: you know what, there's a guy jersey champs, Jersey champs.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen, you wear this like.
Speaker 2: They have the most obscure jerseys, hockey jersey, pastball jerseys,
Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff. Check it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna cop that. When you were fifteen, I
Speaker 1: know you didn't play as much au as other people.
Speaker 1: But do you play against any future NBA players.
Speaker 2: At fifty at that point time, I think the only
Speaker 2: one that I probably played with locally was probably Mike
Speaker 2: Bibbie and he was a few years older than me.
Speaker 1: But that's probably a cool thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sacramento Kings like Bibby Jersey, But no that he
Speaker 2: was the only one where I grew up. And that's
Speaker 2: why basketball for me was such a random thing. When
Speaker 2: I started playing basketball at ten, eleven, thirteen, fourteen, there
Speaker 2: was I wasn't from LA or Chicago where they were like, hey,
Speaker 2: that guy made it or that guy was basically like,
Speaker 2: you want to play basketball? We hear people can go
Speaker 2: to the NBA. Yeah, I didn't really play against any
Speaker 2: real like future NBA guy, So I probably got to
Speaker 2: like sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 1: And who is that?
Speaker 2: All of them? Really at that point in time, I
Speaker 2: all just well, it was like you all started competing.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if it was Matt Barnes or Carlos
Speaker 2: Boozer or you know, Shane Jay Williams all us please.
Speaker 1: Okay, so his sons are like the twins or like
Speaker 1: the top players in the class of twenty are they really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would like love if you could set me
Speaker 1: up with one of them.
Speaker 2: You don't care which one, you just want one of them.
Speaker 1: I can't say if I have a preference that would be.
Speaker 2: So you're so smart. Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 1: So if a good word.
Speaker 2: I've known Carlos since.
Speaker 1: H he's a fellow bald NBA brother.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was very early. Also, he was one of
Speaker 2: the infamous Beijing. I never did the Beijing.
Speaker 1: Carlos and you want to bronze medal together?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about that bronze medal all oftentimes sad,
Speaker 2: very sad. But you know what, if it wasn't for us,
Speaker 2: they would never be.
Speaker 1: But in the Jewish Junior Olympics, I wont a silver
Speaker 1: medal for girls soccer, so technically.
Speaker 2: But I had mine dipping gold. So mine's gold plated.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's cheating.
Speaker 2: So it's not technically cheating. It's just gold plated. It's
Speaker 2: still bronze at its core. Just it's gold.
Speaker 1: In my heart, I never knew you were a cheater
Speaker 1: like that. Interesting, I'm going to move on to you
Speaker 1: now so great or just in your NBA crew?
Speaker 2: Sure whatever?
Speaker 1: That fifteen year old.
Speaker 2: We don't care about him.
Speaker 1: That he was awesome though, sort of like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: was your welcome to the league moment?
Speaker 2: Oh? I had so many of them, I will say, so,
Speaker 2: do you remember Latrell's pree Well, I don't know why
Speaker 2: I'm asking fifteen year old this, but Latrell's Spreewell previously
Speaker 2: had been suspended a couple of years back for choking
Speaker 2: his coach. Oh, so he got suspended for choking his coach,
Speaker 2: And I will never forget this. My first year, I'm
Speaker 2: putting on a jersey. We're a preseason game and I'm
Speaker 2: sitting here and we're playing against the Knicks, and my
Speaker 2: coach is like, Richard, get in. You got Carrie walking
Speaker 2: into the game for the first moment. It's a preseason game.
Speaker 2: And no, no, no, we were in Connecticut because it
Speaker 2: was a preseason game Nets versus next preseason game. My
Speaker 2: first time putting on the jersey, first time going in
Speaker 2: the game, I'm coming off the bench to coach. He's like,
Speaker 2: go get Carrie kittles cool and I was like, who
Speaker 2: that got. He's like, you got Latrell'spreewell. And the first
Speaker 2: thing that popped in my head. I was like, the
Speaker 2: guy that choked his coach like that to me was
Speaker 2: wholly like, hoh, we're really I'm sorry for guessing, we're
Speaker 2: really doing that. So that was probably my first welcome
Speaker 2: to the NBA moment. And then my second one was
Speaker 2: the moment that I got to play against Michael Jordan,
Speaker 2: you know, because Michael Jordan came back those were the
Speaker 2: Wizard years and you're like, yep, I'm playing against mj
Speaker 2: This shit is real. I don't care if he's one
Speaker 2: hundred or if he's fifty or if he's twelve. I'm
Speaker 2: playing against Michael Jordan. This shit is strange.
Speaker 1: So that was it for me, so we know, welcome
Speaker 1: to the league moment. I have a question for you.
Speaker 1: So I've known come up with something called like a
Speaker 1: what the hell is my life come to? Moment? And
Speaker 1: like I was wondering, do you think when you like
Speaker 1: had that poster on Clay I think in those in
Speaker 1: the in the Christmas Jursey, Yes, yes, do you think
Speaker 1: that that was what the hell has happened to me? Moment?
Speaker 1: Because like that was later in your career and like
Speaker 1: that was his prime and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: He's like, shoot, Richard Jefferson, just like put me on
Speaker 1: a poster like this is so awkward.
Speaker 2: And the best part about is that I had Clay.
Speaker 2: I played with Clay when he was a rookie in
Speaker 2: Golden State. I'm a former Warrior. That's I know, Like, listen,
Speaker 2: she is good. People like just like this is impressive
Speaker 2: off the top. Yeah, those are the moments that like
Speaker 2: in the NBA, especially happened later in my career, Like
Speaker 2: I went to two finals early, didn't think I was
Speaker 2: ever going to go again. I just loved the game
Speaker 2: of basketball, wanted to keep playing and competing. Got very,
Speaker 2: very fortunate to be in a process, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, fifteen years later, I'm back in the NBA
Speaker 2: Finals and it's like, what does my life become? How
Speaker 2: am I still here? And so to dunk on Clay.
Speaker 2: The best part about dunking on Clay is that we
Speaker 2: ended up going to the scorer's table like a little
Speaker 2: bit later again, and he just looked at me and
Speaker 2: was just like, anybody but you, anybody but you, And.
Speaker 1: I was like the hell out that moment, you know what.
Speaker 2: That actually makes me feel better that you wished it
Speaker 2: wasn't me. That made me feel better. I get that.
Speaker 1: So in twenty twelve to twenty thirteen, when you were
Speaker 1: a Warrior, I believe that that was the first year
Speaker 1: that Steph, dray and Clay played together. Could you see
Speaker 1: the dynasty coming or it wasn't clear?
Speaker 2: No, it was not so the first I think that
Speaker 2: was the first year. So I think that was the
Speaker 2: lockout year.
Speaker 1: Maybe Tramon was drafted in twenty eleven. I think that
Speaker 1: must have been the first.
Speaker 2: Draymond. No, so Draymond was drafted in twenty eleven. So
Speaker 2: I showed up at twenty ten after the lockout. That
Speaker 2: was Clay's rookie year. Steph was hurt when I got there.
Speaker 2: The next year is when they drafted Harrison. They drafted
Speaker 2: uh and Raymond. So then that was the first year
Speaker 2: I saw a special I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 2: He broke the record that year, the first time he
Speaker 2: broke the NBA three point record, and it was like
Speaker 2: he did it with such ease, and it was like
Speaker 2: he hadn't even pushed himself to the wall. But that
Speaker 2: was the first year Steph was becoming Steph. Thirteen or
Speaker 2: twelve twelve, because that was the year they beat they
Speaker 2: beat They beat Denver in the first round, lost to
Speaker 2: the first Then they lost to the Clippers. Next year,
Speaker 2: sood first year they didn't make the Pope postseason. Next
Speaker 2: year they won the first round, lost in the second round.
Speaker 2: Next year they lost the Clippers. They fired Mark Jackson
Speaker 2: that summer they brought in Steve. Then they won championship, final, championship.
Speaker 1: We know the rest.
Speaker 2: I just like that, Yeah, she's not the only one
Speaker 2: that knows.
Speaker 1: Bunch of stuff, y'all, okay, but like that's Commons that's
Speaker 1: coming in.
Speaker 2: That's like not everyone, no, but thank you.
Speaker 1: You're so inclusive. And do you think that, like Steph
Speaker 1: is the best shot of all time because of you,
Speaker 1: your leadership, one thousand to the go ahead, Like come on,
Speaker 1: why would it be del? Like why would it be Del?
Speaker 1: It would be you?
Speaker 2: Honestly, when I look at the encouragement that I've given
Speaker 2: him over the years, and like I don't want credit.
Speaker 2: I think we have an unspoken thing when it's a
Speaker 2: very unspoken thing when we see each other that like Richard,
Speaker 2: like I would not be the person I am without
Speaker 2: your leadership in your.
Speaker 1: Tea, I just thought of something and like, you has
Speaker 1: to tell me this is real. So you know, Steph
Speaker 1: broke the record in Madison Square Garden, in the Mecca
Speaker 1: where you're most hated. Do you think that he was
Speaker 1: doing that as like a shout out to you, being like,
Speaker 1: this is for you, Richard, Like I couldn't because he
Speaker 1: could have broken it before he was in a slump.
Speaker 1: But maybe it was on purpose to wait for the
Speaker 1: game against the Knicks to be like this is for
Speaker 1: you Richard.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what what I like to say is that,
Speaker 2: like I like to say that I encouraged him in
Speaker 2: that moment and I was just like, hey, listen, I
Speaker 2: know of all this stuff going on, you go out
Speaker 2: there and you do this for yourself. I gave him
Speaker 2: one of those like Rocky speeches. Rocky was a movie
Speaker 2: that came out in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're a familiar, because Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan was in like the New Rocky and so like,
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan come on, so like that's so then
Speaker 1: I so then I had to be like, oh, why.
Speaker 2: Rocky, who is this guy?
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, yeah, he knows Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan. So that's fair. Okay, so you do no Rocky,
Speaker 2: but that's what I was saying. I gave him kind
Speaker 2: of a Rocky go get him speed, and he was like, Richard,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this for you. That's what he said.
Speaker 2: So sweet. I know he's adorable. You know, he probably
Speaker 2: said it to nine other people. He was probably visiting hospitals.
Speaker 1: And saying it to all the kids.
Speaker 2: So it was just like he was just I think.
Speaker 1: It's carrying Fosse puppies.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was amazing, Like it was just the things
Speaker 2: that he does. It's some perfect guy, perfect.
Speaker 1: Guy of him. So you were drafted thirteenth overall. Now
Speaker 1: people say thirteenth is an not unlucky number.
Speaker 2: But it's my lucky number, as it should be.
Speaker 1: Do you think that being drafted thirteenth overall made your
Speaker 1: career lucky or.
Speaker 2: Unlucky, very lucky? I could not. When you say, like,
Speaker 2: what the hell has my life become? Or that like
Speaker 2: what is my life woman? Yes, it was all up
Speaker 2: to thirteen thirteen. I got drafted in the right place
Speaker 2: to play with the perfect players, to play on the
Speaker 2: perfect team. Everything was like I could not have dreamed.
Speaker 2: There was not a team a situation I would have
Speaker 2: rather gone to than one that I went to. So
Speaker 2: I think it was the luckiest number that I've ever had.
Speaker 2: On top of the fact, when you look at like thirteen,
Speaker 2: look we get it. Number one picks number five. Thirteen
Speaker 2: is one of the most random numbers you have. Donovan Mitchell,
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, you know, the late great you know so
Speaker 2: so Tyler Hero another one. You know, Tyler Hero.
Speaker 1: It's just funny because you're like Kobe Bryant, Tyler Hero.
Speaker 1: I love Tyler.
Speaker 2: There's a fraternity. We were the middle of the path,
Speaker 2: we were in the like, you know, we're in the
Speaker 2: middle of the past, and we found our way out.
Speaker 2: So it was like there's a there's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a brother out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: You and Kobe, Kobe, you guys, Kobe, we're so similar.
Speaker 2: That's a trio.
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, I'm really you. I'm actually gonna change that.
Speaker 1: Cut that out. Richard Jefferson is known for some crazy
Speaker 1: to m M. They're hot, they're hot. But oh, Richard,
Speaker 1: here we go. Have you ever seen a take hotter
Speaker 1: than Kelly? You'r dge and you know you haven't. No,
Speaker 1: you haven't. I mean those green eyes, those tattoos, that
Speaker 1: bleef blond hair. No takes are that hot. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna go out there with some takes that are going
Speaker 1: to be so hot. It's gonna be like Kelly Ridge.
Speaker 1: I know it's tough.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It is tough, but I think we can do it.
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 1: I believe you, thank you, and I and I believe
Speaker 1: in you, and I believe in Kelly. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot about Kelly Man that that's a gorgeous guy.
Speaker 1: That is a gorgeous guy. I love him. I just
Speaker 1: love that guy. Okay, beautiful. I just when I think
Speaker 1: about him, it's just like be.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about Kelly. I get I
Speaker 2: could take it.
Speaker 1: I'm imagining him in that show.
Speaker 2: Okay, one day you'll interview him. It's going to be great.
Speaker 2: I want to watch that. I want to see that.
Speaker 1: No, but I don't think I'm gonna be able to focus.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so hard. I'm just gonna be like
Speaker 1: staring at his eye.
Speaker 2: But that's the Yeah, that's why I want to laugh
Speaker 2: about Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Okay, let's go which NBA player is the
Speaker 1: best dressed.
Speaker 2: Currently currently best dressed. That's a tough one because these
Speaker 2: bad boys are bringing out all the stops. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know who I like, and I'm supposed to
Speaker 2: do quick fire and I'm sitting out going down the
Speaker 2: down the list of guys best dressed. Let's go with
Speaker 2: Kelly Obray.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelly, Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's so many guys I like Poppy.
Speaker 1: Two words Poppy?
Speaker 2: Is that is that a thing? That's that's his nickname? Okay,
Speaker 2: Tsunami Poppy, Okay, just dripping beautiful dress. Okay, I got.
Speaker 1: Which NBA player currently has the best shoe game? So
Speaker 1: I like to say this every time. But if you
Speaker 1: don't say p J. Tucker, I just think you're just
Speaker 1: trying to be different.
Speaker 2: It's just weird. Like, yeah, I was going to throw
Speaker 2: him in the best dress because I was going to
Speaker 2: add his shoe game Justice Clean. But yeah, his shoe
Speaker 2: game is like, that's the that's the same.
Speaker 1: He's not Poppy. He's not listen, no one is no
Speaker 1: one is not even Champagne Poppy.
Speaker 2: Don't tell him that. Don't tell him that. He'll start
Speaker 2: singing Drake. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not as beautiful but close close, But no one,
Speaker 1: No one's like this to not me. Okay, who is
Speaker 1: the funniest NBA player? I knew this one was going
Speaker 1: to get you going because I know what you want to.
Speaker 2: Say, like people that I had played against, or just
Speaker 2: just go current current. Okay, listen, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: Some people I still say against I was alive.
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan is one of the funniest players and teammates
Speaker 2: I've ever had. Currently currently, I'm gonna say this, there's
Speaker 2: two Klay Thompson and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, he just
Speaker 2: some of his interviews are is so funny. But Clay Thompson.
Speaker 2: No one has a better time than Clay. No one
Speaker 2: has a better time than Clay. He's on his boat,
Speaker 2: he's got his dog. You never know what he's gonna say.
Speaker 2: He just takes his boat out. But Clay, to me
Speaker 2: is when I say funniest, He's just one of those
Speaker 2: guys that like is super funny but doesn't know why
Speaker 2: he's funny.
Speaker 1: He's just flew off on the boat like that was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like life being funny to him. I don't
Speaker 1: really think he was the one Anthony Edwards is like
Speaker 1: good at being funny, good at being funny, Like it
Speaker 1: seems like he's been like I feel.
Speaker 2: Like he named his dog like Junior, right like Anthony
Speaker 2: Edwards Junior. He already named his dog that, and you're
Speaker 2: just like good for you, yeah.
Speaker 1: So good and or like when he did his top
Speaker 1: five players of all time and he like was like myself.
Speaker 2: Like that he should he should believe that. But no
Speaker 2: one has more fun than Clay, and Clay has fun
Speaker 2: good for him?
Speaker 1: Which NBA player currently is the most overrated?
Speaker 2: Most overrated?
Speaker 1: The nice thing about you is I know you're gonna answer.
Speaker 2: Answer most over aid player. That's a good one. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say this Zion Williamson. And I'm not gonna like
Speaker 2: go at Zion from that standpoint, but I want Zion
Speaker 2: to earn the greatness that he is entitled to. So
Speaker 2: he's got all the attention, all the love, and it's like,
Speaker 2: my thing is this, when the facts change, so will
Speaker 2: my opinions. So that means he could go on and
Speaker 2: they will change one hundred percent believe in him. But
Speaker 2: right now, the attention that he gets, the love that
Speaker 2: he gets, and he's been injured unfortunately in some other stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't get a lot of love.
Speaker 2: He actually right, So this is not hate. This is
Speaker 2: more of saying like, hey, hey, all the dunks, all
Speaker 2: that stuff is great when we are in the business
Speaker 2: of getting paid to win and perform. If you're not
Speaker 2: winning and performing, then then criticism is going to come.
Speaker 2: So I believe he will improve. But right now I
Speaker 2: think he would be the most overrated.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that that's understandable. Let's look at us,
Speaker 1: let's go I mean, if he wants to go out
Speaker 1: there and be as good as he has the potential
Speaker 1: to be, he has to go out there. He needs
Speaker 1: to really perform like we know he can. He's the
Speaker 1: youngest starting All Star ever, but he needs to really
Speaker 1: be that bad dude.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, give me sixty five games. Give me sixty
Speaker 2: five games this year. Take your team to the postseason.
Speaker 2: I will shut my mouth, salute you, and say you
Speaker 2: deserve on the All NBA team currently right now I
Speaker 2: need more from you, og, Yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 2: This is my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen. Yeah, I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: like sitting comfortably in the mansion right now. But like
Speaker 1: if he'll he'll he'll be fine no matter what.
Speaker 2: Most underrated, most underrated, ooh, this is a good one.
Speaker 2: I think. I think Chris Middleton. I'll say Chris Middleton.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I say Chris Middleton is because
Speaker 2: we know he's a champion, we know he's an All Star.
Speaker 2: But I think you greatly underestimate his importance to a
Speaker 2: championship team. Last year, if they would have had him,
Speaker 2: I think they would have repeated his champions in my opinion, Yes,
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors. It would have been a good one.
Speaker 2: It would have been a good battle. Would But I
Speaker 2: think Chris Middleton is so important to the success of
Speaker 2: Yannis because Jannis might be shack. Chris Middleton kind of
Speaker 2: fills in the gaps, very similar to how Kobe would.
Speaker 2: And I think like he's just one of those guys
Speaker 2: that if he would have been healthy and their team
Speaker 2: is healthy, he is so they like they took him
Speaker 2: to seven, They took the Boston Celtics to seven without him, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's just like if he would have been there,
Speaker 2: they would have won. They Yeah, they would have won
Speaker 2: in five or six.
Speaker 1: Feel he's properly rated, though, see because he's been an
Speaker 1: alser maybe like four or few or four times many
Speaker 1: times where you're sort of like, huh, how did he
Speaker 1: get there?
Speaker 2: I think the underrated part is I don't think people
Speaker 2: understand why, why and how good he is. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's one of the top thirty players in the part.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: You don't know, but he's like he's one of the
Speaker 2: top thirty players in the league. But like his importance
Speaker 2: level is probably closer to top ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh top ten.
Speaker 2: What importance? And that means that like if Chris Middle
Speaker 2: and Giannis and those guys are healthy, then he'll then
Speaker 2: you start to see, like he closes the games, he
Speaker 2: makes the late game plays, he does all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: And Giannis is just that monster that does everything else.
Speaker 2: He is a monster. He's so good.
Speaker 1: Which NBA player is the best singer?
Speaker 2: Ooh? Any of these guys get any talent? I don't know.
Speaker 2: They're all rapping now. Everybody's got there, everybody's got their own.
Speaker 1: Like Victor Oladipo's actually no, he was on the mass
Speaker 1: singer and he like almost won, Like he's actually really
Speaker 1: good singer. I can see that he is real talent
Speaker 1: I can see.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't get that far right with some
Speaker 2: of the guys's extracurriculars. But there are no because it's
Speaker 2: like there's four hundred and fifty players, there's going to
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent of guy that can play instruments,
Speaker 2: play music, that can play other sports play. I can
Speaker 2: see Oladipo being a great singer. Yeah, I got no
Speaker 2: issue with that. It's him. He's the best singer, best singer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Victor, you you got so proud of him. Now
Speaker 1: we're going on to another segment called Muggsy or Minute.
Speaker 1: So we know Muggsy Bogues you're player ever insulting, but yes.
Speaker 2: You're young, you're still growing.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I know. I was just giving you a little I
Speaker 2: was just trying to I was just trying to like
Speaker 2: help you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and then New Bowl tallest NBA player of
Speaker 1: all time on the same team.
Speaker 2: Yes, Wizards, Bullets, bullets. You know, I don't want to bullets.
Speaker 2: You know it's not going to bring you know, I
Speaker 2: was going to say Indians, I was gonna say Guardians.
Speaker 2: You know, see.
Speaker 1: Getting controversy controversial.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like I just was saying the current
Speaker 2: team name versus that's not like.
Speaker 1: Is bullets really like that controversy?
Speaker 2: Well, when they had the highest rate and crime rate, it.
Speaker 1: Was kind of like they're like, maybe we should change.
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of awkward bullets. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: You could also get another way with like presidents being
Speaker 1: assassinated with there's.
Speaker 2: A lot we don't need bullets, you know, as Guilbert.
Speaker 1: But like this is getting awkward too. Wow, I need
Speaker 1: to get out of this. Okay, now, let's just go
Speaker 1: go go fast. We're a talk.
Speaker 2: I don't care how long this thing takes. I'll stay
Speaker 2: here all day.
Speaker 1: Let's go MJ or Kobe, last shot j Lebron James
Speaker 1: on the Calves or Lebron James on the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Oh, Calves, second stint, Calves.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're giving you credit.
Speaker 2: Second stint, Calves. Okay, I'll do this. First stint Miami.
Speaker 2: He was the most physically.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the question.
Speaker 2: Okay, never.
Speaker 1: Lakers or Clippers.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is the Lakers town.
Speaker 1: I don't know this season.
Speaker 2: That was the answer. Final answer, Lakers.
Speaker 1: Playing basketball or reffing basket.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, playing basketball will never read I'm a terrible.
Speaker 1: You really are rams? Are Cardinals?
Speaker 2: Oh what? Ramsay? Because you for you?
Speaker 1: Why because when you were born in LA, they weren't
Speaker 1: they were in Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is why. Because when I moved to Arizona,
Speaker 2: the Cardinals were trashed for like a decade, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I hate them. So then I always said,
Speaker 2: the first team that moves back to LA will be
Speaker 2: my team. That's gonna be my football team. Because I
Speaker 2: didn't like the Cardinals, and then I just didn't have
Speaker 2: a team. I'd support it.
Speaker 1: Now you could like, but now I know, screw the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: I love the Rams. That is my team. I went
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, went to the Let's Go Together.
Speaker 2: That's cute. Yeah, so awesome, Great, it's so much fun.
Speaker 1: Do you sometimes remind me of a teenage girl?
Speaker 2: Me? Yeah, I have a lot of that vibe. That's
Speaker 2: why all the teenage boys like to follow me.
Speaker 1: But also your like comedy is like a teenage boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok TikTok easy easy.
Speaker 2: That's also you.
Speaker 1: Only post tiktoks on Instagram.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I post. I used to try
Speaker 2: and post Instagram. But I'm not gonna like that's not
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: It's all about TikTok Steph or Magic Magic And that's.
Speaker 2: No disrespect Steph. That's fine. You could be mad. People
Speaker 2: were trying to say, oh.
Speaker 1: After all this, come on, people say this fourth ring
Speaker 1: though I don't even want to.
Speaker 2: I love Steph, Like I said, I don't think that
Speaker 2: there is a better because I love this game so much,
Speaker 2: like I like, I love it like to my core,
Speaker 2: and so I love people that represent the game the
Speaker 2: right way, and there is not a better representative on
Speaker 2: this planet than Steph. And I stand that with Lebron.
Speaker 2: I think Steph has done so much for this game.
Speaker 2: I think Bron all these guys, but Steph. Yes, he's
Speaker 2: that dude. Magic Johnson though, like we forget that this
Speaker 2: league almost was like about to like fold and not
Speaker 2: even exist, and Magic was one of those guys that
Speaker 2: has changed it. Yes, but so did Magic Johnson. So
Speaker 2: did Magic Johnson, So Didareem adul Jabbar so like, and
Speaker 2: so did Shaquille O'Neil. So obviously from from a standpoint,
Speaker 2: but this is a quick history lesson. Everyone says that
Speaker 2: Steph changes the game. That is true, he did change
Speaker 2: the game, but that implies that he's the only person
Speaker 2: to ever change the game over the course of basketball history. Shack.
Speaker 2: They had to literally change the equipment for Shack. He
Speaker 2: was that physical, that strong, Magic Johnson. There had never
Speaker 2: been a six to nine point guard ever done anything
Speaker 2: that really saved the game. Him and Larry Bird known
Speaker 2: as saving the game. Kareem adul Jabbar. They wouldn't allow
Speaker 2: him to dunk the basketball because it was too easy.
Speaker 2: That's why he created the skyhook. Because they outlawed dunking.
Speaker 2: They made a rule that said you couldn't dunk. That's
Speaker 2: the definition of changing the game. So when people talk
Speaker 2: about Steph changing the game, there's a history of players
Speaker 2: being so impactful and Steph belongs to I'm such a nerd,
Speaker 2: such a nerd. That's why I like that you were
Speaker 2: a nerd.
Speaker 1: I was like, she's I am sort of as.
Speaker 2: You're such a nerd. That's why I can spot, but
Speaker 2: I like cover it up.
Speaker 1: I feel like you just like are proud of all at.
Speaker 2: This point in time. It's like I'm forty two there,
Speaker 2: I have no other skills. I'm like, yeah, I'm a
Speaker 2: basketball nerd. Yeah, I love it. It's whatever. It's not
Speaker 2: just a little bit it is. It's not even a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of It's a lot of it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're like a soccer fan here, Okay,
Speaker 1: but Rinaldo or Messy.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna say Ronaldo really why, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like I look, I know Messi's a stud and
Speaker 2: a little guy. But I like the athleticism because to
Speaker 2: be big and strong and skilled impressive. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to know. But Ronald, I like, Christiano's
Speaker 2: story is really really cool and he has He's that dude?
Speaker 2: Is that dude?
Speaker 1: Okay, we ended it on this.
Speaker 2: There we go. I'm nervous. I feel like this would
Speaker 2: be a drum roll? Can you guys dr drum roll
Speaker 2: on post? All right? Doris Burke or me Doris? And
Speaker 2: that's not even a question. But Doris is amazing and
Speaker 2: you should get Doris to sit right here. Doris is
Speaker 2: the godmother of basketball. Like, think about that godmother of basketball.
Speaker 2: She'll you call her for advice, She'll give you advice
Speaker 2: and she'll shoot you straight. She'll give you some love,
Speaker 2: she'll give you some some hugs. She'll give you some
Speaker 2: shut the hell ups. She'll She is one of the
Speaker 2: most amazing people that I've ever met in this industry
Speaker 2: by far, and you should get to know her.
Speaker 1: And I'm also one of the most amazing people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I said you should get to know
Speaker 2: where to you like amazing you clearly, Doris Burke. You
Speaker 2: should get her in this seat, Doris Dori.
Speaker 1: Someone's sitting the seat the two best it's number one
Speaker 1: and number two.
Speaker 2: What's a baby goat called?
Speaker 1: I think a baby goat?
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's like, what is the what is
Speaker 2: the what is a baby horse called?
Speaker 1: Opponent?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Wait, no, no, that's a long word. No ponies, just
Speaker 1: a small horse. I don't know what it's.
Speaker 2: Called, but there is. But there is like half No,
Speaker 2: that's a cow woman.
Speaker 1: I've ever known a woman before. That's it feel so big?
Speaker 2: Were you're fifteen? You're fifteen? Yeah? Wow? Cool?
Speaker 1: Okay, great, all right, yeah, okay, good yeah, bye bye.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
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