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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sloan. I just turned fifteen years old and

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Speaker 1: I love the MBA. Today, on Sloan Nose, we have

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Speaker 1: an MBA champion on Olympi and someone who is definitely

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Speaker 1: not afraid to speak his mind. Let's give a warm

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Speaker 1: Sloan nose. Welcome to Richard Jefferson. Hi, Richard, I'm outstanding.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see.

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Speaker 2: Great to be here. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: So happy to be here with you. I couldn't be

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Speaker 1: more thrilled.

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Speaker 2: I would expect that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this may make you not as thrilled.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you feel that your whole stint

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Speaker 1: as a New Jersey net I was just not alive

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Speaker 1: for well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's weird. It's now that I broadcast

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Speaker 2: games for them. I have grown men coming up to

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Speaker 2: me with their kids your age and saying, look at

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Speaker 2: a picture of me when I was twelve. The dads

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Speaker 2: are like, look at me when I was twelve with

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Speaker 2: you in a jersey. And I look over and they're

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Speaker 2: with their kid, and that kid has a beard. I'm

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Speaker 2: like used to this now. I'm starting to grown a

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Speaker 2: little bit more accustomed to.

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Speaker 1: It because my dad and I were talking about you

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Speaker 1: last night, and it's like funny because like I know

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Speaker 1: you as like, you know, like a podcaster and a

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Speaker 1: teak talker and like obviously an NBA player, but like

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Speaker 1: more towards the later years, like on the cows and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then he's telling me about like all these glory

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Speaker 1: stories with you and Vince, and I'm like what, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It causes it causes actually causes some Internet like beef

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Speaker 2: because you get people in the comments they're like, you sucked.

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Speaker 2: I saw you play. You only average four points when

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Speaker 2: you played for the Cavs. And then there's other people

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Speaker 2: like listen, you know you idiots he used to Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So it's it's I like it that that just even

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Speaker 2: my existence causes people.

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Speaker 1: To argue all NBA rookie second team right here.

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Speaker 2: See I got one Rookie of the year.

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Speaker 1: Let's go so lucky. I mean I have zero, So

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Speaker 1: that's impressive. That's wow.

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Speaker 2: I was. I was very very happy about that.

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Speaker 1: Congrats. That's a big accomplishment than you. Also, I I've

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Speaker 1: always been curious about this. Do you have like more

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Speaker 1: of like maybe a spiritual connection to let's say ToJ

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Speaker 1: Gibson or Alex Caruso just because you share that NBA

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Speaker 1: baldness together, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, you know what. I feel like there is

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Speaker 2: a bald brotherhood, but ultimately like there's like there's like

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Speaker 2: a few different bald brotherhoods right there. There's like the

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Speaker 2: bald Brotherhood of like, hey, we were bald early and

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Speaker 2: this is just our book. And then there's the other

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Speaker 2: one that we're just like, come over, come over to

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Speaker 2: Bron Bron, you know, over there, all of you guys,

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Speaker 2: come join us on the bald brotherhood. And they all

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Speaker 2: eventually will and have and and and that's part of

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Speaker 2: the fun.

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Speaker 1: Todg Gibson is definitely part of that. Like I feel

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Speaker 1: like they're like bald, look with the goggles. When I

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Speaker 1: see that, I was like, the.

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Speaker 2: Best thing that I like about is like people just

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Speaker 2: see a light skin brother and they're like that is

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Speaker 2: that Todd Gibson Or so I'll be walking to the

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Speaker 2: airport and they'll be like dodge TODJ. And I'm like

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Speaker 2: it's so cool because I can like actually ignore you

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Speaker 2: because you're just calling to the wrong nav. You're not

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Speaker 2: saying my name in the airport.

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Speaker 1: The other day, I saw Lou do Wor and like

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Speaker 1: it was it was just like it was weird, like

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Speaker 1: like an OKAC player, right, but if like I saw

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Speaker 1: a Laker, like it would click a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: I walked up to him, and I just think that like,

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Speaker 1: out of all the people in the airport, he just

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Speaker 1: I was like yeah, yeah, and he was just like

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Speaker 1: looking around. It was it was funny references Lou Gwent's

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Speaker 2: Did you ask in your podcast?

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Speaker 1: No, I should. I actually my friend after was like

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Speaker 1: also well no, he was really nice, but he like

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Speaker 1: I said to him, you should join the Warriors for

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Speaker 1: no reason because like really love him, but like he

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Speaker 1: probably shouldn't join the Warriors. Yeah, And I don't know

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Speaker 1: why it just came out of my mouth.

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Speaker 2: Is that your favorite team?

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Speaker 1: It is my favorite team?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Well, given like your existence on this

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Speaker 2: planet over that sheer time, the warriors have been Like.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if I was born in two thousand and one

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Speaker 1: when you were drafted, I would have been like a

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Speaker 1: New Jersey Nets fan.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, even then you would have been so you

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Speaker 1: I also like, why would I be in thats fan? Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be so honest.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. I have no allegiance. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: We're talking a lot about h it seems to be

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Speaker 1: an oncoming theme. Yes, I just turned fifteen, so this

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Speaker 1: is my first podcast episode where I am fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody we get like, we get some like sounds

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Speaker 2: like yeah it's needed.

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Speaker 1: If you want to get me a gift like that

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Speaker 1: would be good. No, I still think you should think

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Speaker 1: that's fair. Yeah, okay, we'll think maybe for your birthday,

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Speaker 1: I'll donate you some of this, some hair, lots of.

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Speaker 2: Lots of love.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can trade. I can get like a nice

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Speaker 1: podca I.

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Speaker 2: Asked for, Like I looked into the locks of love

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Speaker 2: and then I found out that they have much better

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Speaker 2: causes than their male pattern bonded.

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Speaker 1: So probably other people that need to kid use it

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Speaker 1: a little bit more, so I know who you are now, okay.

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Speaker 1: And I also, because I did my research, knew who

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Speaker 1: you were back then. But I don't want to know that.

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Speaker 1: I want to know who you were when you were fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Me at fifteen, there's like some yeah, there's some therapy

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Speaker 2: in there, there's some some honesty. Me at fifteen, I

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Speaker 2: was just trying to figure it out. See, it's weird

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Speaker 2: like everybody you know you see on TikTok where everyone's

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Speaker 2: like the millennials at ninety five. Like in ninety five,

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Speaker 2: I was fifteen years old. There were no cell phones,

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Speaker 2: there were no communications. Your parents would kick you out

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Speaker 2: of the house. I was just a loudmouthed kid. That

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Speaker 2: just I'm being vulnerable here. I'm opening up to you

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Speaker 2: in this time track. No, No, it's fine, we're exactly No.

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Speaker 2: I was just a fun kid. I was very similar

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Speaker 2: wanted to know everything. I would immerse myself in basketball.

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Speaker 2: I would watch videotapes and basketball games and go to

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Speaker 2: the park for eight hours. It's really cool. And I'll

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Speaker 2: compliment you for you to find something that you're actually

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Speaker 2: truly interested in. And then you put the work towards it.

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Speaker 2: You know, people ask me all the time, hey, do

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Speaker 2: you want your kids to play basketball? Like, I don't

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Speaker 2: if they want to play sports. The only thing that

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Speaker 2: matters to me is if that's what they want to do,

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Speaker 2: they approach it and push it passionately.

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Speaker 1: I never knew you to be so inspiration.

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Speaker 2: You know what. Every once in a while I like

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Speaker 2: to keep people guessing the eight seconds later I'll say

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Speaker 2: something extremely sarcastic and rude.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe even really inappropriate, sitting here with a child,

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Speaker 1: after you've given me.

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Speaker 2: Like future on my best behavior.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay? So were you this tall at fifteen?

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Speaker 1: Was the height situation?

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Speaker 2: It was the exact same height I am right now

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Speaker 2: at fifteen years I was probably about sixty pounds less.

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Speaker 2: But when I was so I started my freshman year,

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Speaker 2: I was probably like six one. Ended my freshman year

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Speaker 1: So were you fifteen as a sophomore?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I sold my birthday. My birthdays in June, so

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Speaker 2: I turned was I was? I didn't turn twenty first

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Speaker 2: birthday of summer. Shout out birthday kids, But my birth

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Speaker 2: I didn't turn fifteen until basically my son you and

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Speaker 2: Messy have.

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Speaker 1: A birthday in the same week. Who knew two of

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Speaker 1: the greatest of all time?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, honestly, God was just like, you know what, We'll

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Speaker 2: just sprinkle over there. You know, it's fine, But that

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Speaker 2: five in Glendale, Arizona, and my high school coach was like, hey, Richard,

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Speaker 2: you should really start taking this basketball stuff more serious. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And were you a Sun's fan or were you a

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Speaker 2: What was Lakers? I would say I was a Lakers fan.

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Speaker 2: I grew up here. Wow as an La. Are you

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But I say I'm from San Francisco just because

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Speaker 1: I'm not a Bandwagon fan. But then people think I am,

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Speaker 2: I've had those lies. Yeah, Like people look, I wear

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Speaker 2: my watch on my right hand forever, and people are like,

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Speaker 2: why are you doing you right? I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: and I make up a lie just because that's just

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Speaker 2: what I want to do. Aspected that being said as

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Speaker 2: a person born here in La I moved when I

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Speaker 2: respect it be different.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no, and you weren't different? Was you know?

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Speaker 2: It was? I liked the Lakers and then I meant

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Speaker 2: to Arizona. The Phoenix Suns were really really good because

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Speaker 2: They had some really good players. So I like them,

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Speaker 2: but I'm a Lakers fan.

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Speaker 1: Do you have one of those like Suns jerseys where

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Speaker 1: it was like fires.

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Speaker 2: That purple one? Yeah. I was poor kid growing up,

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Speaker 2: so I didn't have any jerseys. Don't feel bad. Don't

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Speaker 2: feel bad. It's my cross the bear. Don't make a comment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. You know what, Those are the coolest jerseys,

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Speaker 2: and I think they're doing those retro jerseys. They're they're

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Speaker 2: doing those. I am so impressed with your knowledge of

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Speaker 2: like random NBA stuff. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: It's nice that you say you're impressed. Most people would

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Speaker 1: just call it sad.

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Speaker 2: No. No.

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Speaker 1: Like the other day, I asked my dad if I

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Speaker 1: was like sure, so cool, and I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I wanted Alex at there at a Combo Greece Jersey.

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Speaker 1: And he was like oh and I was like yeah,

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Speaker 2: And the best part about is that I had Clay.

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Speaker 1: I was like the hell out that moment, you know what.

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Speaker 1: So in twenty twelve to twenty thirteen, when you were

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Speaker 2: Next year they lost the Clippers. They fired Mark Jackson

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Speaker 1: We know the rest.

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Speaker 2: I just like that, Yeah, she's not the only one

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Speaker 1: Bunch of stuff, y'all, okay, but like that's Commons that's

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Speaker 2: That's like not everyone, no, but thank you.

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Speaker 1: Tea, I just thought of something and like, you has

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what what I like to say is that,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this for you. That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was amazing, Like it was just the things

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Speaker 1: Guy of him. So you were drafted thirteenth overall. Now

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Speaker 2: Unlucky, very lucky? I could not. When you say, like,

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Speaker 2: There was not a team a situation I would have

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Speaker 2: I think it was the luckiest number that I've ever had.

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Speaker 2: On top of the fact, when you look at like thirteen,

438
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Speaker 2: look we get it. Number one picks number five. Thirteen

439
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Speaker 2: is one of the most random numbers you have. Donovan Mitchell,

440
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Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, you know, the late great you know so

441
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Speaker 2: so Tyler Hero another one. You know, Tyler Hero.

442
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Speaker 1: It's just funny because you're like Kobe Bryant, Tyler Hero.

443
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Speaker 1: I love Tyler.

444
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Speaker 2: There's a fraternity. We were the middle of the path,

445
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Speaker 2: we were in the like, you know, we're in the

446
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Speaker 2: middle of the past, and we found our way out.

447
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Speaker 2: So it was like there's a there's a little bit

448
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Speaker 2: of a brother out there.

449
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

450
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Speaker 2: You and Kobe, Kobe, you guys, Kobe, we're so similar.

451
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Speaker 2: That's a trio.

452
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Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, I'm really you. I'm actually gonna change that.

453
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Speaker 1: Cut that out. Richard Jefferson is known for some crazy

454
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Speaker 1: to m M. They're hot, they're hot. But oh, Richard,

455
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Speaker 1: here we go. Have you ever seen a take hotter

456
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Speaker 1: than Kelly? You'r dge and you know you haven't. No,

457
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Speaker 1: you haven't. I mean those green eyes, those tattoos, that

458
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Speaker 1: bleef blond hair. No takes are that hot. But we're

459
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Speaker 1: gonna go out there with some takes that are going

460
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Speaker 1: to be so hot. It's gonna be like Kelly Ridge.

461
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Speaker 1: I know it's tough.

462
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Speaker 2: It is.

463
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Speaker 1: It is tough, but I think we can do it.

464
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Speaker 2: I believe.

465
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Speaker 1: I believe you, thank you, and I and I believe

466
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Speaker 1: in you, and I believe in Kelly. And I know

467
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Speaker 1: a lot about Kelly Man that that's a gorgeous guy.

468
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Speaker 1: That is a gorgeous guy. I love him. I just

469
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Speaker 1: love that guy. Okay, beautiful. I just when I think

470
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Speaker 1: about him, it's just like be.

471
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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about Kelly. I get I

472
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Speaker 2: could take it.

473
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Speaker 1: I'm imagining him in that show.

474
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Speaker 2: Okay, one day you'll interview him. It's going to be great.

475
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Speaker 2: I want to watch that. I want to see that.

476
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Speaker 1: No, but I don't think I'm gonna be able to focus.

477
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be so hard. I'm just gonna be like

478
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Speaker 1: staring at his eye.

479
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Speaker 2: But that's the Yeah, that's why I want to laugh

480
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Speaker 2: about Yeah.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Okay, let's go which NBA player is the

482
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Speaker 1: best dressed.

483
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Speaker 2: Currently currently best dressed. That's a tough one because these

484
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Speaker 2: bad boys are bringing out all the stops. I don't

485
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Speaker 2: I don't know who I like, and I'm supposed to

486
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Speaker 2: do quick fire and I'm sitting out going down the

487
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Speaker 2: down the list of guys best dressed. Let's go with

488
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Speaker 2: Kelly Obray.

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelly, Yeah, I like that.

490
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Speaker 2: You know, there's there's so many guys I like Poppy.

491
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Speaker 1: Two words Poppy?

492
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Speaker 2: Is that is that a thing? That's that's his nickname? Okay,

493
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Speaker 2: Tsunami Poppy, Okay, just dripping beautiful dress. Okay, I got.

494
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Speaker 1: Which NBA player currently has the best shoe game? So

495
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Speaker 1: I like to say this every time. But if you

496
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Speaker 1: don't say p J. Tucker, I just think you're just

497
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Speaker 1: trying to be different.

498
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Speaker 2: It's just weird. Like, yeah, I was going to throw

499
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Speaker 2: him in the best dress because I was going to

500
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Speaker 2: add his shoe game Justice Clean. But yeah, his shoe

501
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Speaker 2: game is like, that's the that's the same.

502
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Speaker 1: He's not Poppy. He's not listen, no one is no

503
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Speaker 1: one is not even Champagne Poppy.

504
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 2: Don't tell him that. Don't tell him that. He'll start

505
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Speaker 2: singing Drake. Sorry.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not as beautiful but close close, But no one,

507
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Speaker 1: No one's like this to not me. Okay, who is

508
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Speaker 1: the funniest NBA player? I knew this one was going

509
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: to get you going because I know what you want to.

510
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 2: Say, like people that I had played against, or just

511
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Speaker 2: just go current current. Okay, listen, I'm saying that.

512
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Speaker 1: Some people I still say against I was alive.

513
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Speaker 2: Tim Duncan is one of the funniest players and teammates

514
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: I've ever had. Currently currently, I'm gonna say this, there's

515
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: two Klay Thompson and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, he just

516
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Speaker 2: some of his interviews are is so funny. But Clay Thompson.

517
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Speaker 2: No one has a better time than Clay. No one

518
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Speaker 2: has a better time than Clay. He's on his boat,

519
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: he's got his dog. You never know what he's gonna say.

520
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: He just takes his boat out. But Clay, to me

521
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Speaker 2: is when I say funniest, He's just one of those

522
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Speaker 2: guys that like is super funny but doesn't know why

523
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Speaker 2: he's funny.

524
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Speaker 1: He's just flew off on the boat like that was like, yeah,

525
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: that was like life being funny to him. I don't

526
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Speaker 1: really think he was the one Anthony Edwards is like

527
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Speaker 1: good at being funny, good at being funny, Like it

528
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Speaker 1: seems like he's been like I feel.

529
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Speaker 2: Like he named his dog like Junior, right like Anthony

530
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Speaker 2: Edwards Junior. He already named his dog that, and you're

531
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Speaker 2: just like good for you, yeah.

532
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Speaker 1: So good and or like when he did his top

533
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Speaker 1: five players of all time and he like was like myself.

534
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Speaker 2: Like that he should he should believe that. But no

535
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: one has more fun than Clay, and Clay has fun

536
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: good for him?

537
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Speaker 1: Which NBA player currently is the most overrated?

538
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Speaker 2: Most overrated?

539
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: The nice thing about you is I know you're gonna answer.

540
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Speaker 2: Answer most over aid player. That's a good one. I'm

541
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Speaker 2: gonna say this Zion Williamson. And I'm not gonna like

542
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: go at Zion from that standpoint, but I want Zion

543
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Speaker 2: to earn the greatness that he is entitled to. So

544
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: he's got all the attention, all the love, and it's like,

545
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: my thing is this, when the facts change, so will

546
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: my opinions. So that means he could go on and

547
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: they will change one hundred percent believe in him. But

548
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Speaker 2: right now, the attention that he gets, the love that

549
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: he gets, and he's been injured unfortunately in some other stuff.

550
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Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't get a lot of love.

551
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Speaker 2: He actually right, So this is not hate. This is

552
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: more of saying like, hey, hey, all the dunks, all

553
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: that stuff is great when we are in the business

554
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: of getting paid to win and perform. If you're not

555
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 2: winning and performing, then then criticism is going to come.

556
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Speaker 2: So I believe he will improve. But right now I

557
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: think he would be the most overrated.

558
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Speaker 1: I agree. I think that that's understandable. Let's look at us,

559
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: let's go I mean, if he wants to go out

560
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: there and be as good as he has the potential

561
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: to be, he has to go out there. He needs

562
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Speaker 1: to really perform like we know he can. He's the

563
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: youngest starting All Star ever, but he needs to really

564
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: be that bad dude.

565
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Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, give me sixty five games. Give me sixty

566
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Speaker 2: five games this year. Take your team to the postseason.

567
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: I will shut my mouth, salute you, and say you

568
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: deserve on the All NBA team currently right now I

569
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: need more from you, og, Yeah, thank you for that.

570
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: This is my pleasure.

571
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: Listen, listen. Yeah, I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure he's

572
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: like sitting comfortably in the mansion right now. But like

573
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: if he'll he'll he'll be fine no matter what.

574
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Speaker 2: Most underrated, most underrated, ooh, this is a good one.

575
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Speaker 2: I think. I think Chris Middleton. I'll say Chris Middleton.

576
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: And the reason why I say Chris Middleton is because

577
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: we know he's a champion, we know he's an All Star.

578
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: But I think you greatly underestimate his importance to a

579
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: championship team. Last year, if they would have had him,

580
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: I think they would have repeated his champions in my opinion, Yes,

581
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors. It would have been a good one.

582
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: It would have been a good battle. Would But I

583
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: think Chris Middleton is so important to the success of

584
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: Yannis because Jannis might be shack. Chris Middleton kind of

585
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: fills in the gaps, very similar to how Kobe would.

586
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: And I think like he's just one of those guys

587
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: that if he would have been healthy and their team

588
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: is healthy, he is so they like they took him

589
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: to seven, They took the Boston Celtics to seven without him, Yeah,

590
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: and it's just like if he would have been there,

591
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: they would have won. They Yeah, they would have won

592
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: in five or six.

593
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: Feel he's properly rated, though, see because he's been an

594
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: alser maybe like four or few or four times many

595
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: times where you're sort of like, huh, how did he

596
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: get there?

597
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: I think the underrated part is I don't think people

598
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: understand why, why and how good he is. It's like, oh,

599
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: he's one of the top thirty players in the part.

600
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why.

601
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: You don't know, but he's like he's one of the

602
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: top thirty players in the league. But like his importance

603
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: level is probably closer to top ten.

604
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh top ten.

605
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: What importance? And that means that like if Chris Middle

606
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: and Giannis and those guys are healthy, then he'll then

607
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: you start to see, like he closes the games, he

608
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: makes the late game plays, he does all of that stuff.

609
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: And Giannis is just that monster that does everything else.

610
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: He is a monster. He's so good.

611
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: Which NBA player is the best singer?

612
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: Ooh? Any of these guys get any talent? I don't know.

613
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: They're all rapping now. Everybody's got there, everybody's got their own.

614
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: Like Victor Oladipo's actually no, he was on the mass

615
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: singer and he like almost won, Like he's actually really

616
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: good singer. I can see that he is real talent

617
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: I can see.

618
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't I don't get that far right with some

619
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: of the guys's extracurriculars. But there are no because it's

620
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: like there's four hundred and fifty players, there's going to

621
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent of guy that can play instruments,

622
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: play music, that can play other sports play. I can

623
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Speaker 2: see Oladipo being a great singer. Yeah, I got no

624
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: issue with that. It's him. He's the best singer, best singer.

625
00:26:53,080 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Victor, you you got so proud of him. Now

626
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: we're going on to another segment called Muggsy or Minute.

627
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: So we know Muggsy Bogues you're player ever insulting, but yes.

628
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: You're young, you're still growing.

629
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.

630
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: I know. I was just giving you a little I

631
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: was just trying to I was just trying to like

632
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Speaker 2: help you.

633
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and then New Bowl tallest NBA player of

634
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: all time on the same team.

635
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: Yes, Wizards, Bullets, bullets. You know, I don't want to bullets.

636
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: You know it's not going to bring you know, I

637
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: was going to say Indians, I was gonna say Guardians.

638
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: You know, see.

639
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: Getting controversy controversial.

640
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like I just was saying the current

641
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: team name versus that's not like.

642
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Is bullets really like that controversy?

643
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: Well, when they had the highest rate and crime rate, it.

644
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: Was kind of like they're like, maybe we should change.

645
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of awkward bullets. Yeah, I get it.

646
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: You could also get another way with like presidents being

647
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: assassinated with there's.

648
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: A lot we don't need bullets, you know, as Guilbert.

649
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: But like this is getting awkward too. Wow, I need

650
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: to get out of this. Okay, now, let's just go

651
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: go go fast. We're a talk.

652
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: I don't care how long this thing takes. I'll stay

653
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: here all day.

654
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: Let's go MJ or Kobe, last shot j Lebron James

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Speaker 1: on the Calves or Lebron James on the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Calves, second stint, Calves.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're giving you credit.

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Speaker 2: Second stint, Calves. Okay, I'll do this. First stint Miami.

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Speaker 2: He was the most physically.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the question.

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Speaker 2: Okay, never.

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Speaker 1: Lakers or Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is the Lakers town.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this season.

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Speaker 2: That was the answer. Final answer, Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Playing basketball or reffing basket.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, playing basketball will never read I'm a terrible.

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Speaker 1: You really are rams? Are Cardinals?

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Speaker 2: Oh what? Ramsay? Because you for you?

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Speaker 1: Why because when you were born in LA, they weren't

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Speaker 1: they were in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is why. Because when I moved to Arizona,

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals were trashed for like a decade, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, I hate them. So then I always said,

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Speaker 2: the first team that moves back to LA will be

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Speaker 2: my team. That's gonna be my football team. Because I

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Speaker 2: didn't like the Cardinals, and then I just didn't have

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Speaker 2: a team. I'd support it.

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Speaker 1: Now you could like, but now I know, screw the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: I love the Rams. That is my team. I went

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, went to the Let's Go Together.

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Speaker 2: That's cute. Yeah, so awesome, Great, it's so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Do you sometimes remind me of a teenage girl?

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Speaker 2: Me? Yeah, I have a lot of that vibe. That's

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Speaker 2: why all the teenage boys like to follow me.

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Speaker 1: But also your like comedy is like a teenage boy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok TikTok easy easy.

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Speaker 2: That's also you.

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Speaker 1: Only post tiktoks on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing I post. I used to try

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Speaker 2: and post Instagram. But I'm not gonna like that's not

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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 1: It's all about TikTok Steph or Magic Magic And that's.

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Speaker 2: No disrespect Steph. That's fine. You could be mad. People

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Speaker 2: were trying to say, oh.

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Speaker 1: After all this, come on, people say this fourth ring

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Speaker 1: though I don't even want to.

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Speaker 2: I love Steph, Like I said, I don't think that

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Speaker 2: there is a better because I love this game so much,

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Speaker 2: like I like, I love it like to my core,

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Speaker 2: and so I love people that represent the game the

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Speaker 2: right way, and there is not a better representative on

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Speaker 2: this planet than Steph. And I stand that with Lebron.

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Speaker 2: I think Steph has done so much for this game.

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Speaker 2: I think Bron all these guys, but Steph. Yes, he's

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Speaker 2: that dude. Magic Johnson though, like we forget that this

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Speaker 2: league almost was like about to like fold and not

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Speaker 2: even exist, and Magic was one of those guys that

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Speaker 2: has changed it. Yes, but so did Magic Johnson. So

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Speaker 2: did Magic Johnson, So Didareem adul Jabbar so like, and

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Speaker 2: so did Shaquille O'Neil. So obviously from from a standpoint,

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Speaker 2: but this is a quick history lesson. Everyone says that

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Speaker 2: Steph changes the game. That is true, he did change

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Speaker 2: the game, but that implies that he's the only person

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Speaker 2: to ever change the game over the course of basketball history. Shack.

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Speaker 2: They had to literally change the equipment for Shack. He

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Speaker 2: was that physical, that strong, Magic Johnson. There had never

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Speaker 2: been a six to nine point guard ever done anything

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Speaker 2: that really saved the game. Him and Larry Bird known

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Speaker 2: as saving the game. Kareem adul Jabbar. They wouldn't allow

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Speaker 2: him to dunk the basketball because it was too easy.

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Speaker 2: That's why he created the skyhook. Because they outlawed dunking.

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Speaker 2: They made a rule that said you couldn't dunk. That's

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Speaker 2: the definition of changing the game. So when people talk

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Speaker 2: about Steph changing the game, there's a history of players

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Speaker 2: being so impactful and Steph belongs to I'm such a nerd,

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Speaker 2: such a nerd. That's why I like that you were

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Speaker 2: a nerd.

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Speaker 1: I was like, she's I am sort of as.

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Speaker 2: You're such a nerd. That's why I can spot, but

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Speaker 2: I like cover it up.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you just like are proud of all at.

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Speaker 2: This point in time. It's like I'm forty two there,

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Speaker 2: I have no other skills. I'm like, yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 2: basketball nerd. Yeah, I love it. It's whatever. It's not

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Speaker 2: just a little bit it is. It's not even a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of It's a lot of it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you're like a soccer fan here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but Rinaldo or Messy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna say Ronaldo really why, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I like I look, I know Messi's a stud and

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Speaker 2: a little guy. But I like the athleticism because to

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Speaker 2: be big and strong and skilled impressive. But yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to know. But Ronald, I like, Christiano's

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Speaker 2: story is really really cool and he has He's that dude?

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Speaker 2: Is that dude?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we ended it on this.

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Speaker 2: There we go. I'm nervous. I feel like this would

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Speaker 2: be a drum roll? Can you guys dr drum roll

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Speaker 2: on post? All right? Doris Burke or me Doris? And

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Speaker 2: that's not even a question. But Doris is amazing and

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Speaker 2: you should get Doris to sit right here. Doris is

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Speaker 2: the godmother of basketball. Like, think about that godmother of basketball.

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Speaker 2: She'll you call her for advice, She'll give you advice

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Speaker 2: and she'll shoot you straight. She'll give you some love,

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Speaker 2: she'll give you some some hugs. She'll give you some

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Speaker 2: shut the hell ups. She'll She is one of the

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Speaker 2: most amazing people that I've ever met in this industry

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Speaker 2: by far, and you should get to know her.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also one of the most amazing people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I said you should get to know

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Speaker 2: where to you like amazing you clearly, Doris Burke. You

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Speaker 2: should get her in this seat, Doris Dori.

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Speaker 1: Someone's sitting the seat the two best it's number one

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Speaker 1: and number two.

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Speaker 2: What's a baby goat called?

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Speaker 1: I think a baby goat?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. There's like, what is the what is

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Speaker 2: the what is a baby horse called?

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Speaker 1: Opponent?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Wait, no, no, that's a long word. No ponies, just

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Speaker 1: a small horse. I don't know what it's.

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Speaker 2: Called, but there is. But there is like half No,

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Speaker 2: that's a cow woman.

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Speaker 1: I've ever known a woman before. That's it feel so big?

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Speaker 2: Were you're fifteen? You're fifteen? Yeah? Wow? Cool?

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, all right, yeah, okay, good yeah, bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of

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Speaker 1: Sloan Notes with me and Richard Jefferson, the NBA player

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Speaker 1: with the worst tattoo ever. If you want to see

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Speaker 1: more videos of Richard and I make sure to follow

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Speaker 1: Sloan notes on TikTok and Instagram. Blown has me, by

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Speaker 1: the way, M