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Speaker 1: Draft Show as we are just forty four days away

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft, getting into crunch time. Close it

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. However, Brian I mentioned it's crunch time,

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Speaker 1: it's also free agency time. Is this the most hectic

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Speaker 1: because not only are you looking for draft prospects, but

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Speaker 1: it's madness, March madness probably per se. Yeah, no, it is,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's it give you a very difficult time

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Speaker 1: And especially with the Dallas Cowboys situation. I remember many

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it was it was a lot of work,

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Speaker 1: So everybody you'll see teams sticking to your plans. Teams

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Speaker 1: his free agency ends up looking like, and that would

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Speaker 1: be former LSU standout Patrick Peterson. Because there's conversation about

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Speaker 1: Pat moving inside to play safety. It's not the easiest move.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he necessarily has to juice anymore to

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Speaker 1: play corner, but I would be intrigued by him playing

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Speaker 1: free safety at this stage of his career. I think

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Speaker 1: he still has a lot to offer if he'll tackle

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Speaker 1: because he's never really been a tacklic If he'll tackle,

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Speaker 1: I think he has a lot to offer. Yeah, that's Spucky,

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Speaker 1: it's real quick game. I know you're gonna make a

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Speaker 1: point about this. But in radio, I have a group

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Speaker 1: called the Gang of Seven. They're my seven general managers

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Speaker 1: that are kind of working the shadows for me, and

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Speaker 1: I was talking to them about Patrick Peterson. They think

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Speaker 1: that there's enough market pat for Patrick Peterson still play

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Speaker 1: corner that he might not be on the Charles Woodson

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Speaker 1: transition train or Rod Woodson transition train or any of

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Speaker 1: those guys that moved from corner to safety later in

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Speaker 1: their career. They feel like that there's still enough of

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Speaker 1: a market for him as a corner that he might

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Speaker 1: not make that trans issue. But you're absolutely right, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: that's one that I would clearly, clearly work on right

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Speaker 1: now at the corner position. I mean, what was that, Dave,

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Kyle, I was just gonna go ahead. I

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Speaker 1: was just gonna say the corner position might turn out

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Speaker 1: to be a little bit more of a neat than

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Speaker 1: safety because we do have some cowboys breaking news here

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Speaker 1: out that when a report from the NFL network, So

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Speaker 1: we might unpack that a little bit and we might

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Speaker 1: we wasn't figures yet, Okay, because they overpaid for Trey Henderson,

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson. Well, the silly stuff happens during free agency. Man,

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Speaker 1: they let will Johnson walk. Is that what his name was?

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Speaker 1: I mean they're making some move as well. But we're

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Speaker 1: which is just unbelievable to be seventy questions? Are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? This is awesome? I mean, we could do

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Speaker 1: an entire show on this, and maybe we'll have to

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Speaker 1: at some point, But got plenty to talk about here

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Speaker 1: on Twitter on the twenty and I'm gonna start things

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Speaker 1: off with we talk about improving the defense, and basically

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Speaker 1: it kind of goes back into what we were talking

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Speaker 1: about in that first segment. But this comes from speaking

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Speaker 1: dim boys on Twitter says, when we commit to improving

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Speaker 1: the defense, obviously isn't in free agency. So can we

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Speaker 1: commit the tenth pick, forty fourth pick, third and fourth

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Speaker 1: round picks to premium defenders and get developmental offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: in the later rounds? This goes against kind of what

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Speaker 1: we talked about last week as well, a potential of

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Speaker 1: maybe spending high premium picks. Bucky, I know you were

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Speaker 1: on that bandwagon as well on offensive tackle early. Is

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Speaker 1: there a chance that you find an offensive tackle that

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Speaker 1: late in the draft this year? I mean intensively, you're

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Speaker 1: looking at the same kind of situation that you had

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Speaker 1: last year. I mean, when you draft an offensive tackle late,

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Speaker 1: like you're not getting one of the premier guys that

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Speaker 1: is a plug and play guy. And so when you

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Speaker 1: take a developmental guy, you're talking about two or three

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Speaker 1: years before they're really ready to play and play at

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Speaker 1: a high level. I think it's uncommon. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: the last late round offensive tackle to emerge as a

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Speaker 1: guy like I know Jason Peters went from being an

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent tied end to emerge and as a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl tackle. But that's an uncommon situation. You just

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Speaker 1: don't haven't see that happen often. Yeah, I thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, brand Yeah, No, I mean I do think

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Speaker 1: there's some guys late and maybe maybe there's a guy

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Speaker 1: that you can develop. I'm just gonna throw a name

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Speaker 1: out there. I watched this guy, Walker Little from Stanford.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that it's been kind of banged up.

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Speaker 1: He heard his knee against Wisconsin against Northwestern a while back,

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Speaker 1: and then and then now he's sitting out because of

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Speaker 1: the COVID. He went out because of the COVID. But

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Speaker 1: that's the type of guy you're kind of thinking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe a guy that kind of was banged up,

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Speaker 1: gonna have to go back in their notes. The guy

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Speaker 1: six seven twenty pounds, maybe you don't have, Yeah, don't

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Speaker 1: have a great feel for him, and he might fall

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Speaker 1: through the cracks, but that's one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: you think, Okay, there's some talent there. I just kind

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Speaker 1: of like keep an eye on guys like that, try

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Speaker 1: and look for those guys in that fourth round. That

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying look at the sixth and seventh round.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm sure in the NFL history there's

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Speaker 1: a sixth round tackle or something. I trust me, I

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Speaker 1: know there's one out there. But maybe keep a guy.

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Speaker 1: You kind of look at your board when you're building

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Speaker 1: it and see where the walker little guys fall on

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Speaker 1: those kinds of things. I think that's where you can

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Speaker 1: you can find that guy that that could definitely help

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Speaker 1: you on a Day two type of the situation. I

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Speaker 1: like that, right, I tend to. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: dislike that at all for the record, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they wait until like the fourth round to draft

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Speaker 1: an offensive tackle, I won't be I won't be super

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Speaker 1: upset about it. I do tend to agree with Bucky.

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Speaker 1: There's a handful of positions where if you're drafting him

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Speaker 1: outside the top one hundred, then the odds are against

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Speaker 1: you that he's ever gonna be amazing. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think I've brought it up before. You gotta take it

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. Just go ahead and make it then and

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Speaker 1: you'll be that's hey, that's totally fine. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: we all know. You know, Richard Sherman's going to the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. That doesn't mean you should count on

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Speaker 1: finding all pro cornerbacks in the fifth round of the draft,

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Speaker 1: Like it's not a good strategy. But again, I am

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Speaker 1: bullish on Tyron Smith and Lyle Collins. I feel very

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Speaker 1: good that they'll be able to play the vast majority

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Speaker 1: of the season. For you the problem, Oh no, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: just fast, the vast majority. Tell us Smith has been hurt.

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Speaker 1: Every use is twenty sixteen, Like, hey, there is big

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Speaker 1: different we got it free seven. There is a seven, big,

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Speaker 1: big difference between missing three games and missing fourteen games.

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Speaker 1: That like you can't even deny. So you know what

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Speaker 1: I got, I got to you're the guy that likes

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Speaker 1: to work Monday through Thursday. You don't like to work Friday.

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Speaker 1: Friday's not in your work. Yeah, I would just say

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Speaker 1: we'd just take it. We'd just take a mandatory a

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Speaker 1: mandatory game off because we're load managing Tavern Smith, so

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Speaker 1: we're randomly picked these three games that he's going to miss.

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Speaker 1: You and Brian are the guys that are, like, you're

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Speaker 1: not really working unless you're in the office holiday Saturday

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Speaker 1: and during holidays too, y'all are gonna burn yourselves out.

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Speaker 1: That's why Brian is trying to go to the lake

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Speaker 1: at fifty seven years old, get out of here. The

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Speaker 1: point being, the point being I'm now I'm mad again.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. They're going They're gonna be whatever. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be fine, I think. And either way, the overall point

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make is that if you're just drafting defenders,

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Speaker 1: to say you're drafting defenders, you're going against the spirit

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Speaker 1: of this whole thing. Like, look at look at the

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Speaker 1: value that's available to you at each in each individual pick.

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Speaker 1: If Rashaan Slater is far and away your best option

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Speaker 1: at ten, you should draft him. If if attack you know,

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Speaker 1: if if Jenkins the Oklahoma state guy is there for

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Speaker 1: you at forty four and you think he's loads better

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Speaker 1: than everybody else, you should draft him. Like you can't

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Speaker 1: just be like, we need defenders, so our first four

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Speaker 1: picks need to be defenders. That's not how this works. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would even look at Elijah Vera Tucker at ten

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Speaker 1: because I just think that Elijah very Tucker can play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he can play outside, he can play inside. You talk

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Speaker 1: about we talk about the guard position being a question mark,

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Speaker 1: why not get like, why not if you're gonna pay

640
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Speaker 1: the million dollar baby like you paid Dak Prescott, I

641
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Speaker 1: want to put him in bubble wraps so he doesn't

642
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Speaker 1: get touched. Yea. And so if you're gonna make that commendment,

643
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Speaker 1: you're paying forty two million dollars for your quarterback, then

644
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Speaker 1: you need to make sure that he's upright. I don't

645
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Speaker 1: want to necessarily go and buy it Bentley and put

646
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Speaker 1: it on spare tires, like put some rims on it,

647
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Speaker 1: make it look nice or whatever, like make sure that

648
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Speaker 1: he is protected so you can score. Because their best

649
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: defense is gonna be their offense. I don't think they

650
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: can find enough firepower this year to make that defense

651
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Speaker 1: a top ten defense. But I do know if they

652
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: put thirty to thirty five points up, it makes it

653
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Speaker 1: a lot easier just to rush the pass. And when

654
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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about the running game, scud

655
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Speaker 1: and draft Kyle Pitch and everything will be Everything's t

656
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you feel like that, control the middle,

657
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: like why not, like, why not just just just go

658
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: all the way in all offense, all gas, no brakes, Yoh,

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Speaker 1: I hate you, Bucket continues the sark get them sark.

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Speaker 1: Bucket continues spitting out these metaphors, and then they also

661
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: had a bit of a spit take earlier whenever Dave

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Speaker 1: provided his answer, I guess I still can't get over

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Speaker 1: I don't know how fucking and I became more thal

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Speaker 1: in him idea. We're not ever serious're just taking a

665
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: very conservative approach. Last year, I watched you guys, You're like, hey,

666
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Speaker 1: let's defense, and put like, what are we Yeah, I'll

667
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: tell you what we're doing that. I watch DK Metcalf.

668
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: I watched DK Metcalf and Christian Kirk get five yards

669
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Speaker 1: behind this defense. That's what happened. You're not wrong, You're

670
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: not wrong at all. All right, This next question comes

671
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Speaker 1: from mister Maya. I hope I said that name wrong

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Speaker 1: or right? I hope I said it right, Am I age,

673
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it wrong. Does the signing

674
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: of Noah brown As. Noah brown As agreed the terms

675
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: for a one year deal with the Cowboys reduce a

676
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: chance that we look for a late round receiver in

677
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: this draft, and he put Jalen Darden, of course, my

678
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: favorite North Texas Darden, the Dallas everybody or Dad's Knewsome,

679
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: et cetera. These different late round receivers. Brian, do you

680
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: think bringing back a Noah Brown maybe stifles that a

681
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: little bit, as he could be your fourth receiver. Yeah,

682
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: I think that they have to think. And then Cedric

683
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: Wilson was also given his tender there as well, so yeah,

684
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think that there's always going

685
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: to be about depth. You know, will they use draft picks?

686
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: I don't think so, you know, unless somebody me personally though,

687
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: if you did something where you moved on from a receiver,

688
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: say you moved on from Michael Gallup, say someone trying

689
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: to blow you away with a deal right now to

690
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: get him. But like book he's talking about, this receiver

691
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: class is pretty deep. I don't know if it abody

692
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: will blow you away with an offer for somebody you

693
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: currently have. I think if the Cowboys we're going to

694
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: do something, me personally, I would go get somebody from

695
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: the law firm of more and more, our old miss

696
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: guy and then are also our product guy because to me,

697
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: the shorter type play two two at wells another one.

698
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 1: This league is going to where the smaller type of guy,

699
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: the inside players, maybe you can kick, you can kick

700
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: CD outside, but if you had a guy that was

701
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Speaker 1: a little bit shifty and can do a lot of

702
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: different things. But yeah, I think that these signings, I

703
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: think that kind of takes them out of the market

704
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: right now for a draft and a wide receiver, I

705
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: would just throw out out that at the end, I mean,

706
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they do have ten

707
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: picks and the majority of those are Day three. You know,

708
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: if they like a guy, if they like a guy

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00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: and they don't want to let him get to free agency,

710
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: maybe they draft him. You know, I'm I know he

711
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: wasn't a pick. He wasn't a draft pick, but I'm

712
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: thinking about Jalen Guyden a year or two ago. Another

713
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: if they if they love yeah, if they love a

714
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: guy like that, and they would you know, kind of

715
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: like bend Nucci last year, like you'd rather draft him

716
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: than trying them in on him, maybe you do that.

717
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think you know, Noah and Cedric both

718
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: being here for this season, unless something crazy happens. I

719
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: think you could probably rule out a big pick being

720
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: spent on receiver Bucky. I mean, I'm with it. No,

721
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Speaker 1: I would think that it would be a Day three guy, Hightway,

722
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: speed guy, guy that can play special teams because eventually

723
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and Sid Wilson like that's that's where their

724
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: contributions are going to come in. And so you have

725
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: to kind of get some guys that are up and

726
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: ready to replace those guys when they move on, and

727
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: maybe they're able to offer something that if you look,

728
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I can see him maybe being a

729
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: natural fielding for Michael Gallup as a one dimensional type

730
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: player on the edge, you also have special teams value.

731
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Speaker 1: It just kind of depends on how they view Michael Galliman,

732
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: how they view not twenty twenty one, but how do

733
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: they view what their roster could look like in twenty

734
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: twenty two. Yeah, they get ready. They're gonna draft Waddle

735
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: at ten, So oh, let's go Burger's baby somewhere. Jimmy

736
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: Cavanaugh is smiling, But I mean, why not? Noting? Why not?

737
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: But why not? Even though even though I wouldn't, even

738
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: though I wouldn't draft the wide receiver in the first round. Yeah,

739
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Speaker 1: were there, I would I would say I would maybe

740
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: colpis at ten. I would be intrigued. You can get me,

741
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: you get your wide receiver in a second and third round.

742
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: Come on, right, like they're eight million of them. I'm

743
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: with you, man, And come on, I came in the

744
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: same program you did. Yeah, there you go. Next question

745
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: comes from aspiring journalist on Twitter. Give him some puffs.

746
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: He not have names on Twitter accounts? No, that's what

747
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: I actually says. Seriously, the name and the handle have

748
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Speaker 1: aspiring aspiring journalists on there. Come on, man, I don't know.

749
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Speaker 1: He's got the really cool aspiring journalists. Put your name

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Speaker 1: out there. He's got on your Twitter handle. Manuh so

751
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: that's the question, Kyle, Yeah, Joe Thomas leaving. Does that

752
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: decrease or it does He's saying it does decrease the

753
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: depth a linebacker. But does it increase the chance of

754
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: drafting a linebacker in the first two rounds in your opinion? Bright? Yeah,

755
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: you know, I would get ready. I mean, I know

756
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people and stuff like that that

757
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about Parsons and people. You know that.

758
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: Bolden from Missouri Choral Moore Notre Dame. I think people

759
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: think maybe him as a safety and stuff like that.

760
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: I I would not discount out a linebacker here. And

761
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm always doing this because we need to figure out.

762
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: If you're a Cowboy fan, you need to figure out

763
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: what the contract situation is for late Vanders. Dave told

764
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: you last week that's a nine million dollar buy right

765
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: there in the fifth year option in May. You know

766
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: you've got health issues with Jalen Smith. You know he

767
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: plays well sometimes other times he does it. They don't

768
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: have a whole heck of a lot of depth there.

769
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Speaker 1: I think that when at the end of the day,

770
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they took corner, linebacker, linebacker, corner.

771
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: It's some combination, is I think it would be the

772
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: first first two picks. To be honest with you, yeah,

773
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Speaker 1: I would like to see him double up at some

774
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: point a linebacker. I would like to see him give

775
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: one maybe in a second and get another guy that

776
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: can play maybe in the fourth with the laden Vanda

777
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: still look. I think with Jaylen Smith Van Vanders, I

778
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: think they both of question marks nine million dollars on

779
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: the option for Vanda as considering his injury history to

780
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: me would be a little rich and then would in

781
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: the smith. You just never know which one is going

782
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: to show up, and so I think you have to

783
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: prepare to get some running chase guys. I do too. Yeah,

784
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a. I was a fan of Joe Thomas.

785
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: I thought for how they got him and what they

786
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: asked him to do you know that you need guys

787
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: like that on your team, Like they can step in

788
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: and start and they can play a lot of special teams.

789
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah awesome. Losing Joe Thomas is not what

790
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: makes linebacker need not knowing what you have in your two.

791
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: But that's not That's not the issue for me. So

792
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask one more question, and I kind of

793
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: want this to kind of trickle into the final segment

794
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: here as well, but it comes from call me Krupa

795
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and he if this question says, are we

796
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: waste too much time talking about top safety and top

797
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackle prospects in this class? Knowing how this team

798
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: in the past has historically approached these positions, Should we

799
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: instead be focusing on Day three names at each of

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00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: those two positions? So that's the question that I'm going

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00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: to pose. We're gonna take a break. When we come back,

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00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: I'll ask it again and we'll kind of talk about

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Speaker 1: some of those names that if the Cowboys elective to

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Speaker 1: has always and I put that question out there prior

849
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: to going to break. Are we talking too much about

850
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: premium defensive tackle and premium safety prospects early in this draft?

851
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: And we talked a lot about both of those positions.

852
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: But it's very likely that, given the historical past of

853
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: this Cowboys organization, that they neglect that position early in

854
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: this draft class or they just simply don't want to

855
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: invest draft capital in there at all. So, Dave, whenever

856
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: it comes to later round prospects, one should we be

857
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: talking about those names? And two are there any names

858
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: that stick out to you? Well? This guy sounds a

859
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: lot like me, because I'm usually the one that's saying like,

860
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: don't like, just tell me what the Cowboys are gonna do,

861
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: Like that's what I care about. But at the same time,

862
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: the purpose of the show is to investigate and educate, Like,

863
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: just because the Cowboys don't care about those positions doesn't

864
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: mean that we shouldn't talk about it, because Lord knows,

865
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: we like to bang those drums and make ourselves feel

866
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: smart later on when Antoine Winfield Junior balls out for

867
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion team. Yeah, so the answer to

868
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: the My answer to that question is no, Like, just

869
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys aren't going to do it, doesn't mean

870
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: we shouldn't at least say, hey, here are the guys

871
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: that they're ignoring for some reason. Yeah, I think guys

872
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: that To me, it's the element of let's not take

873
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle and let's not take as safety as

874
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: now out of the building. I think the previous coaching

875
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 1: staff was they will do a thirty for thirty on

876
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: all the problems that they had trying to find defensive

877
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: players when it was set up for them to draft

878
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: defensive players. So I think with a different element in

879
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: the building, Dan Quinn Joe Wit. You know, I think

880
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: that there will be a different direction there. They will

881
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: have a clear understanding of what they want. They're not

882
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: gonna want to coach orphans, you know that nobody wants.

883
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. They're gonna coach rule

884
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: football players. And I think that that that the attitudes

885
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys and defensive tackle and as safety will change.

886
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: You know, that's a very positive outlook though Brian compared

887
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: to I think a lot of Cowboys Nation, I think

888
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: it's still a lot of people are looking at this

889
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: front office and saying that the Jones family's the one

890
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: that that really makes the decision. They're the one that

891
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: makes a phone call. But there is a lot more

892
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: that goes into it than just them making a decision, right, Yeah,

893
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: the former defensive coordinator did wanted nothing to do with

894
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, he was a defensive coordinator. Wanted nothing to

895
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: do with Jalen Ramsey. He would rather have Ezekiel Elliott

896
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: and he said so. He said so. He didn't think

897
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: though that you know, there there there's discussions they had

898
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: about a T. J. Watt. You know, there are different things,

899
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: different discussions that they've had about players that have gone

900
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: the wrong way for them. I'm not blaming every single

901
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: thing on them, but there's a lot of things that

902
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: you can point to that direction that their attitudes about

903
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: it came from their defensive coaches. Yeah, I know we

904
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: liked to bang on them for bypassing Jalen Ramsey, but

905
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Ellie they want a lot of games with Ezekiel

906
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: Elliott told them to load the first couple of years.

907
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like that was the formula. Now, I would

908
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: say it fell apart when the offensive line began to

909
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: kind of fall apart and you start losing some of

910
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: those guys to attrition. That was more. I would say

911
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: the issue not necessarily Jalen not being there or whatever,

912
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: but did they didn't fight for the guy, Bucky. Your

913
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: defensive coaches, and I understand you have to get there's

914
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: give and take in the room. I appreciate that. I

915
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: never got the impression that they really fought hard to

916
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: get Jalen Ramsey here. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, they

917
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: may want to play confident mary ball. Sometimes you want

918
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: to play nice in the sandbox, Brian. You don't have

919
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: to always like throw Santa in one another in those

920
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: debates like sometimes you know what, you gotta fight for

921
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: your positions. You gotta fight for your side. You know

922
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's true. Yeah, you want to you

923
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: want to have somebody to answer, to answer the latter

924
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: part of that question. Particularly, y'all know how I love

925
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: my safeties. Do y'all have any like more Day three

926
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: type of guys that stand out to you? I mean

927
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: Day three like this, I'll say what you know, I

928
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: don't know if it's I don't know. To me, I would,

929
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: I would since you got since you got a couple

930
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: of like those compensatories at three and then at four.

931
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: I you know, I know I mentioned Gillespie from Missouri

932
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: is a guy Bucky's talked about the Florida state kid Nazardine.

933
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: You know, where where does Holland fit into Oregon safety?

934
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: I mean, see, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to

935
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: get a gauge. I know I've got Morig Grant, Holland.

936
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: I know I've got those guys in an upper level,

937
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: But in that third round, I'm kind of looking at Gillespie. Sherwood,

938
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: him Auburn is a guy that I'm looking at right there.

939
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: So you know there's I think there's names there. I

940
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: think they need more of a true free Let's see

941
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: what happens with Kaze. That might be something that they say, Okay,

942
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: well here's gonna be our free, but that maybe won't

943
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: keep them from draft. And one of those guys that,

944
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: like I was talking about again, Gillespie from Missouri, Nazardeene

945
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: from from Florida State. I don't know where Washington fits

946
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: in here. The TCU kid well, people ding him well,

947
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: people ding him because of his height. Is he more

948
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: of a is he more of a third fourth round guy?

949
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh will tell you he's one of his top guys.

950
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: And you know, you see these guys all differently, but

951
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: I do believe there's some names there you should not

952
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: pass on. These kids were talking about right now. Question Brian,

953
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: what do you think about the Texas kids? Stern? Like,

954
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: what is your opinion on Kayden Stern? Yeah? You know what,

955
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: I haven't watched him Bucky yet. I mean, I'm working

956
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: down through that list and I'm trying to like pick

957
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: guys off. I'm into these four. You know, I got

958
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: a list I got I'm not gonna lie to you.

959
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm using Dane Brugler's list. Dane and I've talked to

960
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: him about his list of guys and where Dane kind

961
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: of had some of his guys ranked. I've just kind

962
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: of followed along on his list and he doesn't have.

963
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, one hundred and fifty some

964
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: odd players in and he's not even on that list yet.

965
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: And so I know he ran the other day in

966
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: the four fours. Ye, there's some people that really like him.

967
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: I haven't personally seen in myself. He's a guy got

968
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Now. It's funny because, like

969
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: I think, safety position, like the beauty is all in

970
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder. When I look at him one,

971
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: he was a heavily recruited kid, so you pay attention

972
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: to him because his freshman year was probably his best

973
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: year at UT. You see him move around, he played

974
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: center field position, he comes down. I would say the

975
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: biggest thing that you worry about him is will it

976
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: be a consistent tackler in terms of a thumper. Will

977
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: he thump? Will he do some of those things? But movements,

978
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: skills and athleticism, he has all the trades that you

979
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: look for typically for your cinefield player. I just wonder

980
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: how he's valued, Like he's hide and cold whenever I

981
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: ask people about him. Some people love him, some people

982
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: hate him. And then sometimes there's a bit of the

983
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: quote unquote Texas stigma that exists in terms of differently

984
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: is being perceived to be soft or coddled or however

985
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: you want to. Yeah, I'm with you, Bucky. I talked

986
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: to a scout the other day about him because I

987
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: saw what he ran, and then the scout told me,

988
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna like him. I mean, and I'm not riding

989
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: the fits on the city. There's some things about him

990
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: you're really gonna like, and there's other things that you're

991
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna not even want to deal with him at all.

992
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see where he fits. Then is

993
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: he in that Gillespie, Washington, Nazardie, Holland Moorg Where does

994
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: he fit among all those guys. There's a bunch of

995
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: names down, I think later in that list, and you

996
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: mentioned Gillespie from Missouri. But I mean, I think I

997
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: don't think you're looking that divine Diablo as a top

998
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: three round guy. He might be a fourth round guy.

999
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: That's who I was about to bring up Kyle Hell, yeah,

1000
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't know that's that's a good name. Virginia Tech.

1001
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: And he's a quality strong myself. Yeah, No, he is.

1002
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: He is. And I know Bucky, but I know Bucky

1003
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: likes I think Bucky. I saw him a crawl from

1004
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: the NFL network the other day. I was looking up

1005
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: at the board. Cisco. You have Cisco up in that area, right,

1006
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: the Sandy Cisco from Syracuse. I actually like I just

1007
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: wrote his name. Now. He is someone that I that

1008
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: I think. You know, it's so subjective when it comes

1009
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: to the safety position because depending on what you're looking for,

1010
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: how you going to play him, and your preferred style

1011
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: at the position. There's some coaches that like to have

1012
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: cast off corner who has some skills that can play

1013
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: in the slot maybe while also being a free safety type.

1014
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: Others want the big thumper to be able to come

1015
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: down in the box and play like a pseudo linebacker.

1016
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: A lot of it depends on how you want to play. Yeah.

1017
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: So when I think about Dallas and this him in

1018
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: your head, you have this visual cam chances the box

1019
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: safety Earl Thomas is the free safety you go in.

1020
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: Look at what he did in Atlanta. Kean O'Neill is

1021
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: the box safety. Demante Kazi and all these other guys,

1022
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: Brian all they played free safety over top. So it's

1023
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: a very distinct look to how he wants to play.

1024
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: And I think I would feel better if I knew

1025
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: how does he view Donovan Wills? Yeah, because if I

1026
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: had a better idea on does he view Donovan Wilson

1027
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: as a guy that is, hey, let's position him in

1028
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: the box because he will thump, or does he see

1029
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: him as Oh, now we can get away with him

1030
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: as a range numbers the numbers player and we need

1031
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 1: to find it on the thumper on the inside. Yeah,

1032
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw in that. I thought, uh oh,

1033
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: sorry Coyle, go for it, Dave, But I did just

1034
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Brian, I agree with you. Divine Diablo

1035
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: is a I mean, he's huge. He definitely he strikes

1036
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: you as like a box guy. But he went to

1037
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: mobile and obviously like nobody's in a worse situation at

1038
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl than DBS, and I thought he I

1039
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: thought he held his own pretty well in the absolutely

1040
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: did Yeah, sure did. So That's definitely that's a name

1041
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: that I if you're six three two twenty five, Like

1042
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: I just I can't help it, because yeah, because Camp

1043
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: Chancellors like one of my favorite players of the last decade.

1044
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: I love that big like six two six three safety

1045
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: who just murders people. So I'm all, well, and again

1046
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: he's an ACC guy. He's an ACC guy. So it

1047
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: might be a thing where the Camp Chance of Virginia.

1048
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: It might be Virginia Tech. Here's our path, here we go.

1049
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: All right, I've got a couple. I've got a couple

1050
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: other ACC guys I want to talk about, though, Bryant,

1051
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw him your direction. And I hope

1052
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: you've maybe watched these guys. So Trill Williams from Syracuse,

1053
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: have you watched him yet? No? I have not. Okay,

1054
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: what about Paris Ford from Pittsburgh, we watched him? I

1055
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: had no, I have not. Okay, I'm drafting Trill. I'm

1056
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: drafting Trill just on his name alone. And Bucky. Have

1057
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: you seen either one of those guys as well? I've

1058
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: heard stuff on prayers for it, but I haven't seen

1059
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: them enough, Like, like, how down in the ben are you, Kyle,

1060
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'm not Ill. I've got Paris for it?

1061
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: Is my twelfth guy as my twelfth safety, so I'm

1062
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: a little bit further down on him. I liked Trill

1063
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: Williams a lot, and for a lot of the same

1064
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: reasons that Dave likes. Excuse me to find Diablo because

1065
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: he's six two, two hundred pounds and I think he's range,

1066
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: he's the He was the opposite corner that excuse me,

1067
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: the opposite safety as Andre Cisco at Syracuse, so they

1068
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: were teammates. They played in the back end together, and

1069
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: andre Cisco didn't impress me a whole lot. I have

1070
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: him just as my tenth safety, So why I have

1071
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: him a little bit further down because he gives up

1072
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: big plays, like like a runny nose. I mean, it's

1073
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: unbelievable how many big plays he gave up. And I

1074
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: think Trill Williams cleaned up a lot of what andre

1075
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: Cisco did, So I kind of put Trill Williams a

1076
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: little bit higher up. He's actually in my top ten

1077
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: and I might be alone in that regard, but I

1078
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: I like guy. I'll take a guy I didn't like.

1079
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you guy I didn't like. And this is

1080
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: from my school, Jacobe Stevens. I was not pressed at

1081
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: all with Jakobee. Wow, I was not pressed at all

1082
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: with him. Don't play him at safety, Please, don't play

1083
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: him at safe. Where would you play him that's get

1084
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: down by the line, like try to move him to

1085
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: linebacker or having to be like a utility guy like

1086
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: maybe a dime package sort of situate like I. I mean,

1087
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: he hits well, and honestly, he's got a he's got

1088
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: a note for the ball, like he he's around the

1089
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: ball when it gets turned over. But I don't trust

1090
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: him in coverage, even in the slightest little bit. Sorry,

1091
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Hey, Tiger, Tiger cry, I have a bad year.

1092
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: After we win the time were ready to get rid

1093
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: of all the play Brian Brian will attest like me

1094
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: and Brian are honest about LSU players, like we don't.

1095
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: We don't pump it up if it doesn't deserve it.

1096
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: We told you should trap that Patrick Queen. We told

1097
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: you that Patrick Queen can playing. Nobody listened to this. Yeah, well,

1098
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: just about everybody that got drafted off the last year's

1099
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: team turned out to be a badass. I don't think

1100
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: that's a coincidence. To be fair, they were like seventeen

1101
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: first round picks out of last year's LSUE roster. So yeah,

1102
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lot of I mean they're gonna

1103
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: get They did win the national title. I don't know

1104
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: the Chase on Dave Chase on did win all that? Great? Yeah? Right, yeah,

1105
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: you're right. Hey, jury is still out. Jury is still out.

1106
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: It's a long career. It's a long career. Any other names,

1107
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: kill them chasing any other names we want to throw

1108
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: out there in terms of the safety position before we

1109
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: wrap things up, gentlemen, draft Richie Grant. That's not a

1110
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: late round, have you No, he's not late round. I'm

1111
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: just we don't have to worry about late round if

1112
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: we use pick forty four on a starter like we

1113
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: can just we can just cut this convert, like this

1114
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: conversation can be made irrelevant if they just invest in

1115
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: the position or honestly, going back to the first segment,

1116
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't want to I hate to

1117
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: try to like get people's hopes up, but that is

1118
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: a position where I could see them investing in a

1119
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: better free agent, not not Earl Thomas, not like prime

1120
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. But yeah, if if they get Kazee if

1121
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: they get Alan or Kean O'Neill um. There's a couple

1122
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: other guys on the market whose names are not coming

1123
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: to my mind, but like they could invest there and

1124
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: set themselves up to where it's not as big of anitas.

1125
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: It looks like right now that wouldn't surprise me at all.

1126
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: I could see that, Brian, you were going to throw

1127
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: a name out there. Yeah, I don't know, Bookie. Have

1128
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: you seen the kid is Hafanca from USC to Yeah,

1129
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: I've seen him. He's a he's a playmaker, but yeah,

1130
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how discipline and detailed he is when

1131
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: it comes to covers. Like he comes and runs around

1132
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: and makes a lot of plays on the ball and

1133
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: hits and splash plays. But I don't know how you

1134
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: bet utilize him as a pro. Yeah. See, I think

1135
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: this is a guy when you start, you're going to

1136
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: hear his name and he's going to be one of

1137
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: those guys that's end up being a core special teams

1138
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: player for somebody. I mean, he's extremely tough, He's always

1139
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: around the football. You see him play near the line.

1140
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: His reactions I think are pretty good for a safety

1141
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: because there's times you'll see him jump routes and play

1142
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: underneath and stuff. But I think he's one of those guys.

1143
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: If people are talking about him, it's going to be

1144
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: initially as a special teams guy and then try and

1145
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: work his way into the safety. That's one of those

1146
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: Day three guys. As I was going back through my

1147
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: notes that you might keep an eye on he might

1148
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: get drafted in day two. I'm more of a Day

1149
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: three guy with him, but keep an eye on him. Again.

1150
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: He had soldier surgery January of twenty twenty, so it

1151
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: Matt might affect him his way on a medical. But

1152
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: he's a name that people have been mentioning. I like it.

1153
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: Lots of Day three potentials and late round options of

1154
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys when it comes to safety, I don't think

1155
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: double dipping at safeties out of the question. As well.

1156
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: They could go draft to Richie Grant or maybe even

1157
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden who could be transformed into a safety from

1158
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: corner out of Washington at forty four, and then go

1159
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: later on and draft the safety again because like Dave

1160
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: said earlier about wide receiver, if there's a safety Latman

1161
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: draft that you like, Hey, why not take a pickle.

1162
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: Let's try and find some depth at that position, because

1163
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: that's something the Cowboys have not had ain't quite some time.

1164
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for us here on the

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01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,720
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01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,560
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01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,160
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1168
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: we're closing in on a mutton until the NFL Draft.

1169
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,600
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1170
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,320
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1171
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,960
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