Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect
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Speaker 1: He's a legendary Queen's rappers. He's Sere's your boy in
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Speaker 1: J e f N. That's a type of crazy war radio.
Speaker 1: Even though it's the wrong show. This is drink Chaps up.
Speaker 1: Have you? Let's we have both of these brothers on
Speaker 1: the show separately, the alumni, they're both alumnis. Think this
Speaker 1: is I think it's job second time getting flowers. I
Speaker 1: think he's the first. He was the first one. I
Speaker 1: think he was the first one that got flowers sec seconds. Okay,
Speaker 1: but let's just let's just get this intro. We got
Speaker 1: a call from a powerful conglomerate, Black conglomerate. And they said,
Speaker 1: we got something called the Murder Inc. Documentary to Murder
Speaker 1: Incis and we said for real, and I'm glessa say, so,
Speaker 1: how was it? Because we've seen BT do the rough
Speaker 1: Rider documentary, We've seen BT do the uh Dope both
Speaker 1: of them dope docs. This is talking about queens. This
Speaker 1: is bringing back to the queens. Get the money. So
Speaker 1: in case you guys don't know who the funk I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, we're talking about one of the greatest producers
Speaker 1: of all times, and we're talking about one of the
Speaker 1: illest creative people of all times. And everyone is still
Speaker 1: fighting his style right now to this day. Yes, if
Speaker 1: you singing, motherfucker, yes, yeah, you don't know what the
Speaker 1: funk I'm talking about talking about the one only God.
Speaker 1: Let's get drunk up. Let me my thing, hello, let
Speaker 1: me ask, let me say something. The minute I put
Speaker 1: it out on on Twitter, I said, um, I got
Speaker 1: earth Gotti and Ja Rule the very first questions that
Speaker 1: they bombarded this would they ever do a Murder Inc. Versus?
Speaker 1: Which was crazy cause I'm on the way listening to
Speaker 1: the Murder In catalog and I'm like, damn. I think
Speaker 1: rule kind of segmented when he did the verses with
Speaker 1: you with that, Joe, I think he kind of semented
Speaker 1: like we ain't nothing funk with like we ain't nothing
Speaker 1: like the Murdering Catalog. I mean, what did they say?
Speaker 1: You get twenty hits? Yeah? Come on, but against a crew?
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think you gotta go more
Speaker 1: than twenty if you do a cruise, right, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta think you gotta expanded a little bit, right, Okay?
Speaker 1: So who would you want to go again? Would you
Speaker 1: gotta do like fifty fifty records? Right? Okay? Something? Who
Speaker 1: would you think you got against murder inc Against who?
Speaker 1: It would have to be bad Boy, which is the
Speaker 1: only the only thing comparable compared that's a rocket. Make
Speaker 1: sure we leave. I'm saying I can't. I can't go.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say Dre because the music is different,
Speaker 1: right right, you know what I'm saying. It's hard going
Speaker 1: against them gangsters records. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: Gott you. Listening to the murder In Catalog just now,
Speaker 1: I was like, Sam, I totally forgot how much it's countless.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot and That's why I said, you know,
Speaker 1: the only the only thing would be bad boy. That's it,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you so. I was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite records and you're rocking with me. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember. I went on tour with Cadillac Top.
Speaker 1: This is when y'all was on fire and Calillac Cadillac
Speaker 1: Top was like the first nigger to come out, and
Speaker 1: I was the headliner, and I made Cadillac Talk come
Speaker 1: back out because I had love for murders before I would.
Speaker 1: It's a hard case. What's he doing? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But over to the side, okay, okay, and
Speaker 1: you gotta immediately noticed your watch. That does a always
Speaker 1: the perpetual master. That's yes, that is a master. It's
Speaker 1: a masterpiece. I don't even really like the jewelry I
Speaker 1: wore my rocket fell and chainman. Okay, skip over that watch, sir, Okay,
Speaker 1: that is not let's see. I got the ring. It's
Speaker 1: like we creticed to watching. It's tri color. It's platform. Listen, listen.
Speaker 1: Not too many people, Hey, hey, ruin one No, no, no,
Speaker 1: who outside today? Yo? Yo? Holdly nor your man gotta
Speaker 1: protect I've seen it yes, that's what he's outside today,
Speaker 1: but not seeing he's said, he's streaming that right. Hold on,
Speaker 1: this is you can change the face on it. Your
Speaker 1: face on that first person. You know you do not
Speaker 1: earlier the n f T s earlier explain it. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: you know what's so good about this one? Nobody has that.
Speaker 1: That is very limited. No, you know what's so dope
Speaker 1: about this watch? That's coincides with the murdering story, a documentary,
Speaker 1: a shanty. But this I hold hold some talk about
Speaker 1: I want to know something as we dig into these stories.
Speaker 1: I'm twenty years deep and more with the family and
Speaker 1: that you got you sh Grave, don't talk to Let's
Speaker 1: tell him. No, I don't know everything, you honest. I'm
Speaker 1: just being my eyes side of my Let me see.
Speaker 1: Let me read you read Grave. It's very neat. I
Speaker 1: can't see it. You see we tried that before we
Speaker 1: bring Let me give a good talking back. Let me see.
Speaker 1: Let me see you can't get that watch no more that.
Speaker 1: Let me get my good glasses out of the bag. Man,
Speaker 1: everybody Drew say something love love, Let me see hold
Speaker 1: im gonna read it, hold on, get my get my
Speaker 1: get up on the old man to expect. Okay, love
Speaker 1: the firs. Scription didn't you never seen that? Always? Okay
Speaker 1: you see if you see that, Damn, I still can't
Speaker 1: see it says is your memory. I think you change
Speaker 1: change lives. You change lives. Yeah, that's what it says.
Speaker 1: Changed forever forever love and shot um wait yeah, fuck
Speaker 1: you that's whatever he changed lives forever love, Ashanti. You
Speaker 1: know that was immediately something that I noticed when I
Speaker 1: watched the Shanty's um Walk of Fame. I immediately said,
Speaker 1: mister Lemnzo, it's not dere what what? And I felt
Speaker 1: like you was a hate that kind of kind of
Speaker 1: say hate it. I just you're not invited. I'm not
Speaker 1: inviting to those things with me and hand like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got relations like I felt
Speaker 1: like me to me looking for the outside of looking in.
Speaker 1: That's an inside that's the outside of but outside looking
Speaker 1: at it nonetheless, right right, you understand that I don't know.
Speaker 1: You probably didn't, but you did. We're talking about but
Speaker 1: but I just want because I wanted like I felt,
Speaker 1: I never hated no, no anyone out phrase that remove
Speaker 1: I am never hate me. You phrase Auntie, uh created
Speaker 1: it made history right, right, But we just I don't
Speaker 1: see how the eye with her anymore. Let me let
Speaker 1: me explain what I meant, right, because the week after that,
Speaker 1: I went to DJ College. I always pronounced his name wrong,
Speaker 1: and I got to see Jay. I got to see Diddy,
Speaker 1: and I got to see Fat Joe, and I got
Speaker 1: to see you know, Corey and all these other people
Speaker 1: that was behind the scenes of college that probably didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily get those big pictures, like you know, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, you know the stuff very then you get
Speaker 1: the stars them three pictures. Hold on, we got kaleg
Speaker 1: probably called them and asked them to do that. But
Speaker 1: when I went to college and called me and I
Speaker 1: showed up. But um, when I went back, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wanted to see Goddy. I wanted to see you there,
Speaker 1: whether you invited or not, to just throw the murder
Speaker 1: in behind her. When you know when they put up
Speaker 1: like you know, when they put their hands on it,
Speaker 1: they I don't even know if that's the thing. I
Speaker 1: mean when they do Hollywood ship. I wanted God to
Speaker 1: be like this with you, with your with your murder
Speaker 1: ain't signed behind. I'm just for peace, and I want
Speaker 1: everybody to be in harmony and peace, not not not
Speaker 1: to say that we gotta hang out and and you know,
Speaker 1: and and create and do things together, but be at pencil.
Speaker 1: When it's time for us to come together for things
Speaker 1: like this, it can be a movement for the whole.
Speaker 1: You know, Faiz, you don't I'm a cancer, but listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cancer, okay, but cheerlead. I love hard and
Speaker 1: I don't love hard. Got you know what I'm saying. Listen,
Speaker 1: we were cheerleader though, right I was cheerleader watching the ceremony.
Speaker 1: Here's didn't watching. Here's the thing, here's the thing. We
Speaker 1: created something special with you. I didn't watch you. We
Speaker 1: created something special even marked act and watched and it's
Speaker 1: like they're coming up for all of us and twenty
Speaker 1: for a Sean tele twenties past. And because you was
Speaker 1: at the ceremony. Listen. When we did the doc, we
Speaker 1: tried to get a shant three different times. She turned
Speaker 1: it down each each and every time. So what I said,
Speaker 1: what I like to say is just the other side
Speaker 1: I've We've tried. When we flirted with the idea of
Speaker 1: doing the Murder Inc Reunion tour, I love that idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she turned it down. I'm never working with y'all basically,
Speaker 1: So you know when when isn't about the masters. I
Speaker 1: watched the Breakface Club. Listen, listen, listen, listen. Let's speak
Speaker 1: on the masters. I know that's gonna come up. First
Speaker 1: of all, I'm not I'm not like Lucy and Grange
Speaker 1: from from from Empire. No, Lucy and Grange owns or
Speaker 1: is he runs the universe of some music groups. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's when I'm not Lucy. I ain't that you're seeing.
Speaker 1: Grange ain't giving nobody back their masters, and he owned
Speaker 1: thousands of him. I own the hot Maybe Lucy and
Speaker 1: Grange wasn't in the studio what you're making? Those records
Speaker 1: I made. I made those Ashanti records. Can you rock
Speaker 1: with me? Oh? I made those records, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like she wrote them, but she wrote them
Speaker 1: with the help of me telling her what to write
Speaker 1: and all of y'all whoever knows me. I don't lie,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I'm not a liar, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I helped make those records, so
Speaker 1: I I owned them. Like hey, me and rud were
Speaker 1: talking today, and I'm not gonna say no numbers. But
Speaker 1: it's like artists. I never signed my artists to three
Speaker 1: sixty deals. I to say, give me some of your
Speaker 1: show money or your mentor you could have. You could
Speaker 1: because Leo's a three sixty, three sixty. You look up
Speaker 1: three sixties. But I never did that. I was I
Speaker 1: feel I was always very good to my audists before
Speaker 1: all time, just to be fair before all right, but
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, no, but listen, let me make this statement.
Speaker 1: Artists have a way of getting money. Rule makes a
Speaker 1: lot of money he does doing shows. A Shan Tim
Speaker 1: makes a lot of money doing shows. So what's left
Speaker 1: for the guy who was the record label, who helped
Speaker 1: make the records? What how I make money out of this?
Speaker 1: Is the masterest? So how am I supposed to feel
Speaker 1: when you want to remove that aspect, you really basically
Speaker 1: saying you don't want Sunny j J and Angie my
Speaker 1: beautiful kids, you don't want them to eat? Is there compromised?
Speaker 1: Because we heard when she's that she said that she
Speaker 1: asked for the instrumentals back that let's let's definitely address that.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be good at this camera. I'm not
Speaker 1: falling for the banana and the tailpipe. I know what
Speaker 1: this is, exactly where we're going. She's been performing for
Speaker 1: twenty years. She's never asked for her stems. She's asking
Speaker 1: for her stems because here's what I suggests happened. She
Speaker 1: went in the studio and tried to redo Babe, Baby
Speaker 1: Mary Jan you can't do that. You couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: That's where we took it from, right. So she probably
Speaker 1: went in the studio tried to recreate this and fell
Speaker 1: drastically short with people saying that don't sound like what
Speaker 1: they did. I need my stems. You know what stems are.
Speaker 1: So you want me to give you the stems of
Speaker 1: your whole album now after twenties, so you're saying you
Speaker 1: need different shows. You want to take my stems, and
Speaker 1: now you're gonna be able to remake your album and
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to get a dollar of that.
Speaker 1: I don't, I didn't never. I still eat off of
Speaker 1: it because I owned the publish here. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: And let me you know. When she'd be on the
Speaker 1: shows and she's like, I'm gonna spits it up and
Speaker 1: jazz it up. Is this the camera a shanty? You
Speaker 1: cannot sprits it up, You cannot jazz it up. The
Speaker 1: minute you put some spritsy and jazz it up, it's
Speaker 1: not a cover. So when it's not a cover, now
Speaker 1: it has to come back to me to cleare it.
Speaker 1: Let me give you an example of shanty. We had
Speaker 1: this record with Vita called Justify My Love the Madonna.
Speaker 1: We redid that record and we sprints it up. We
Speaker 1: Vita spitter verse. Madonna said rejected, No, that's my classic.
Speaker 1: We took the verse off and we made that record
Speaker 1: identically the same to Lenny Kravitz his ad libs. Ashanti
Speaker 1: did the ad libs, but we had to make it identical.
Speaker 1: If you change anything, it reverts back to the writers
Speaker 1: to clear it. Aw Let me just give you the
Speaker 1: answer now, no no, So it's up to you and
Speaker 1: whatever bullshit players and musicians. You have to recreate the
Speaker 1: magic that we made me chink and all you got
Speaker 1: to answer. Lets you want to say, I'm glad because
Speaker 1: i just want things, and you know it's it's crazy
Speaker 1: because I'm caught in the middle of this ship. Right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You are not really not really. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm not what I am about the fault because that's
Speaker 1: nothing to fucking do with me, You understanding. But I
Speaker 1: think you're like an owner murdering something, right, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't do that. But but you know
Speaker 1: that that's that's that's that's not that's not even because
Speaker 1: put your artist. The point is this, I'm a different
Speaker 1: type of an artist. I see both sides of the argument. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, all artists want their masters back. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just it's just the new masters. That's just what
Speaker 1: artists want. The people you're really entertainment makes you buy
Speaker 1: you back all However, the fucking gotta go about your business.
Speaker 1: But there is there is a way to get your masters,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's just like this argument
Speaker 1: doesn't have to take place. He's gonna have to buy
Speaker 1: it back from this guy named Olivier Chasting. He sounds dangerous.
Speaker 1: He's a veryon their Frenchman and he's he's my guy,
Speaker 1: and I'm entering to deal with him for a lot
Speaker 1: of money. I'm supposed to make some moist to that.
Speaker 1: I believe we gotta make some moms. I gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and say it. And I even I ain't even drunk,
Speaker 1: but I signed a letter of intent. It's like two
Speaker 1: dollars not just the not just the catalog, but to
Speaker 1: give me funding for visionary ideas. So what we're looking
Speaker 1: at now is I will own my TV, my movies
Speaker 1: did I make. I am fully funded with a partner.
Speaker 1: I have like a two hundred million line of credit
Speaker 1: where I could go out and be who I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be in this motherfucker. So not just it was
Speaker 1: a conversation actually I had with Mark Lazie. Mark laze
Speaker 1: is a billion and friend. He owns the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 1: And I was over his house one day. Is a
Speaker 1: beautiful home. Yeah, and I'm sitting here. I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: and I was just shooting the ship, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, and I was just telling them all that.
Speaker 1: He's like, what's going on, and like, naw, I'm like
Speaker 1: dream works, yo, I'm like, you know, you know, being braggadocious.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I I direct, I produced, I
Speaker 1: make this ship, I write this ship, I do everything.
Speaker 1: And when I finished, he looked at me and said, yo,
Speaker 1: you said everything but the right thing, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? He said, you don't own it,
Speaker 1: and then he proceeded to drill in my head you
Speaker 1: cannot sell what you don't own. So we was talking
Speaker 1: in every two minutes, he would stopped and saying, Yo,
Speaker 1: you can't sell what you don't own. He drilled it
Speaker 1: in my head. But I was like, yo, TV series, like,
Speaker 1: I'm making this TV series with my BT family called
Speaker 1: Tracking Queens. It's like thirty million. You know, TV series
Speaker 1: is three million in that ten naps. So I said, Joe,
Speaker 1: I ain't got the money to do that, and then
Speaker 1: he said that it was shipped to me. He said,
Speaker 1: getting the money is nothing. He said, there's so many
Speaker 1: people out here, hedge funds, rich guys that got billions
Speaker 1: of dollars to invest in the entertainment business. He said,
Speaker 1: what they don't have, Gotti. You You have all ideas,
Speaker 1: the creativity and then know how to make it experience.
Speaker 1: He said, all you need is the bread. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get you the bread. Another big guys, Zach Harror
Speaker 1: was Zach Carlis used to be the the CEO of
Speaker 1: the Universal Music Group. And I like to say this,
Speaker 1: this is maybe a tab racist or whatever. Right, but
Speaker 1: now I'm not listen. It's good racist though there's nothing
Speaker 1: listen Listen said there is nothing better in the world
Speaker 1: than having a rich, successful white man blow you up
Speaker 1: to another rich, successful white man. It resonates kind of
Speaker 1: harder when Zach calls Olivier and like, y'oall god, he
Speaker 1: made the universal music group billions. You need to get
Speaker 1: behind this small fucker. He's gonna he's gonna be successful,
Speaker 1: he's gonna win, and you know, and then incredible things happened,
Speaker 1: like two d fifty million dollar deals. Jesus, you also
Speaker 1: got the icon. Yeah, so what what is what? Tell
Speaker 1: tell us because people are explaying with icon. You just
Speaker 1: had to stray kwon console. He just showed me crazy.
Speaker 1: I was in l A four he jibs onto something
Speaker 1: humongous with these vibe getting these these legendary artists to
Speaker 1: perform their legendary albums. Everyone needs to see it everythough,
Speaker 1: So tell us about a job. What was the first one?
Speaker 1: The first one was you right? Yeah? I think the
Speaker 1: first one. Okay, let me let you know we're not
Speaker 1: okay yea yea yeah. You know. What's what else? They
Speaker 1: got some pre roles. Yeah, these are pre roles. We
Speaker 1: gotta ma in stores in California just in case y'all
Speaker 1: this you're just crazy wants not Okay, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: forgot you. You give me that got that live residence
Speaker 1: to be this is let me get this strong turn us. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Icon is my live streaming platform. Okay, dope platform.
Speaker 1: Vibes concert Series is uh series I created to be
Speaker 1: on the play. It's just sexy. Let's just subscribed to
Speaker 1: the people. It's sexy's growning sexy hip hop fly ship.
Speaker 1: Not so many people got face tattoos and now it's
Speaker 1: just growing sexy hip hop fly ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, you know, I wanted to bring back
Speaker 1: a nice vibe of us getting dressed up, going out
Speaker 1: to spots, then a drinks, artists performing with live band,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole, the whole vibe of that. So
Speaker 1: that's what Vib's Concerts is. And I did the first one,
Speaker 1: you know, sooning and Booty. I did my album paying
Speaker 1: his Love, And that's that's what all this is. That's
Speaker 1: what it's about. This about artists doing their classic albums,
Speaker 1: you know, rendition of their classic albums. And I did
Speaker 1: the whole. You do other songs if you can make
Speaker 1: it your own. That's what you know. It's called the vibe,
Speaker 1: so you can kind of do other things. Raidham did wave.
Speaker 1: I just want to face the crush it. They went
Speaker 1: way beyond what I thought they was gonna do. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They was out there having a
Speaker 1: good time. You know, once you get in and get
Speaker 1: your suit on and know you f you know you
Speaker 1: called me. You know, SA think you called me. You
Speaker 1: said what should I do that? And I think we agreed.
Speaker 1: It was like you and and and they can't do
Speaker 1: and destroyed it. What else is in it? You good
Speaker 1: found Jeffrey, you will be cared for to tell you
Speaker 1: what you taste a little exactly. It's not rest called
Speaker 1: so it is something else. It's what they do dads
Speaker 1: in you know what they do dads And it's Jeffrey, Yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: it's real, real ship that one. And then in this
Speaker 1: smo chance no chance one got it different. Get up here.
Speaker 1: You think he's put in there? They we rules, so
Speaker 1: it's not it. Don't it don't taste like they're telling me.
Speaker 1: It's live haro beauty. The beautiful thing about your relationship.
Speaker 1: Right is like most people were like, oh uh, Like
Speaker 1: for the verses for instance, right job was there. It's
Speaker 1: almost like you was dead by yourself. But even though
Speaker 1: God he wasn't dead, your presence was felt like you
Speaker 1: made sure that your presence was like, no disrespect to
Speaker 1: fat Joe, Right, but I knew what was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's but so many records, right, it's but so many records.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do. This thing is gonna go the whole time.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. The conversations was ready.
Speaker 1: I was ready for whatever. Thank God Joe didn't go there.
Speaker 1: But because but let's go, let's be clear. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you thank God because it almost felt like people don't
Speaker 1: know bo Rue, we made all of these whatever. This
Speaker 1: sni is a battle rapper. This is the ship that
Speaker 1: I just I don't even talk about it. No more
Speaker 1: like this nigger gets busy and I know he's my brother.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know. This nigga is a savage and he's
Speaker 1: competitive with a fucking I'm gonna kill you. But that's
Speaker 1: how we came up. The way we came up was Joe,
Speaker 1: We're gonna kill these motherfuckers It wasn't no playing around
Speaker 1: with him. We gotta kill these motherfucker's now. The way
Speaker 1: we killed him was with those big gass records. But
Speaker 1: like I say to people, we could win another route
Speaker 1: with But what happened Nigger I did X, I did Jane.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, yo, our accomplishments should be definitely
Speaker 1: revealed because the niggas who I helped become the biggest
Speaker 1: niggas in the world was in our way. That's why
Speaker 1: I say Rule three three six is the greatest work
Speaker 1: I've ever done. These niggas is in our way, and
Speaker 1: these things as nice and not regular. Hope is the
Speaker 1: coolest nigga on the planet, excess the grammiest nigga on
Speaker 1: the planet. Feel me And look, we sold to three
Speaker 1: million with any VICI, but nigga, we wasn't happy. Jay
Speaker 1: just did fucking like eight nine million with Hall Knocked Life,
Speaker 1: X did two seven in like five Nigga, fuck this
Speaker 1: to three million? You understand them. That's why Rule three
Speaker 1: three six I love that album so much because of
Speaker 1: the simple fact that's the second album. Correct, that's when, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's when the murder ring sound was created. We fucking
Speaker 1: created that sound out of necessity because we wasn't satisfied
Speaker 1: with double triple platinum, three three six, this six. I
Speaker 1: can't lie to you. I remember hanging with Job at
Speaker 1: that time. That's when we first kind of like Jersey man.
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember Job being so angry but so
Speaker 1: but so in the moment, knowing who you are, like like,
Speaker 1: I've never seen the artists to this day knew who
Speaker 1: they were, like I didn't. I didn't know who I
Speaker 1: was to two years ago. And Ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you said to me, he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, they keep comparing me to X and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do so to make these motherfucker's know that and
Speaker 1: my different type of animal. And that's when you can
Speaker 1: start coming home with these records. You know, it's on time.
Speaker 1: And I was like, look, don't taking ecstasy too, And
Speaker 1: I'm not making this because I'm like, I'm that working
Speaker 1: for me. We're taking a little feast here and there
Speaker 1: now really working like Ship we did. He dropping his emotions,
Speaker 1: his emotions and Ship, and I'm trying to do the same.
Speaker 1: It's not working out for me here. I had to
Speaker 1: stop the media working your whole way hey man, And
Speaker 1: I've never said I've never said I'm not gonna stop.
Speaker 1: I'm showing that out there, but I never said that.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is, I remember, man,
Speaker 1: it was like Holland. Holland had you in one space
Speaker 1: and then that next album was like you was and
Speaker 1: it was crazy because I believe you had the braise
Speaker 1: halfway done. X can't get braids? Yeah when he who was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love love you X. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: when you look at that album was so brilliant, right
Speaker 1: because every aspect to say when when not that? And
Speaker 1: with this, remember he had grew his hair and I
Speaker 1: thought I was Jimmy motherfucking hendrich Man. You see some
Speaker 1: of the pictures and ships that I was taking the
Speaker 1: ship out in the Bandanna rap to the back of
Speaker 1: my little afro growing out and ship. I was on
Speaker 1: some other ship. I was on some I'm if these
Speaker 1: things just doing this. I'm gonna be a rock star.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go laughs. Is going into the second album.
Speaker 1: Let's do this, let's give let's okay, let me give
Speaker 1: y'all one ship. So X is going crazy. I hate it.
Speaker 1: Got my motherfucker, says some driving roll fucking think says
Speaker 1: Holle Hollo reck in his mind. I'm gonna buy them.
Speaker 1: I don't know this is the Scotty. I know, I
Speaker 1: know you love Rule, I know you love me. You
Speaker 1: staying out of it, I said X. I'm never staying
Speaker 1: out of it. Right, Flesh of my flesh, Blood of
Speaker 1: my blood. I produced two songs. This is a left
Speaker 1: Teddy song. Used to be my dog. You was in
Speaker 1: my left Teddy? What kind of hold on? Hold on?
Speaker 1: Hold on, This is sorry, this is sorry, Let's keep
Speaker 1: it real. Let's just snot Rule. You won't remember now.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna gonna fresh. You'll be playing rude once
Speaker 1: that thing because I knew who X was talking about,
Speaker 1: m M definitely Heroin. So I played a record for
Speaker 1: Rule in my truck. Rule. Do you remember your reaction?
Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, he was insens I'll never forget the reaction.
Speaker 1: He was like, and I asked him, Yo, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: pulling the record in my man screen. No leave it
Speaker 1: and then true Rule fashion if he wants it. Heck,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you that record hindsight, I think it
Speaker 1: pushed Rules create creativity and everything. I'm gonna beat these nigs.
Speaker 1: Beat these niggers got to leave it. So I was
Speaker 1: gonna pull the record. I was like, Yo, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna pull the record. He said no, he said leave it.
Speaker 1: And if y'all know when rules and senses, it scary
Speaker 1: when he's a sense. Holy, do you think I'm lying?
Speaker 1: I'm not. I played him the record as soon as
Speaker 1: the thing and he was in sense because he could
Speaker 1: see it and I could just I'm just watching him,
Speaker 1: like and I could see the angle building up, and
Speaker 1: he's like they wanted they could get it like he was.
Speaker 1: He was different. I used to say, like rule, but
Speaker 1: that or what I'm saying. I give you that story
Speaker 1: because it explains the makeup of Jah Rule, especially during
Speaker 1: that time. And it was so crazy for me because
Speaker 1: him Jay. I've known Jay first. I met j'all last
Speaker 1: of the three, but but he I met y'all last
Speaker 1: of the three ja since eight seven. Listen, Jody Matt
Speaker 1: who is Joe responsible? So Jody mac cash money click,
Speaker 1: this is before OK. He's on two five hustling with
Speaker 1: a pack of cracks and the gun. Continue this nigg
Speaker 1: is telling me, so I knew I had no faith
Speaker 1: in my drama. Who's who's gonna save that for later?
Speaker 1: I mean we had listen to listen hand the facts
Speaker 1: of the matter. You called me one of the greatest
Speaker 1: hip hop produces, the nigga who I made ships Real for.
Speaker 1: Look at his album, his first album, two songs, Ship's
Speaker 1: Real and It's Time to Build with Jackson John. I
Speaker 1: produced no other buyer. I produced no other records. That
Speaker 1: guy didn't want to funk with me for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, he didn't believe in me. He did
Speaker 1: not believe in me. Yes, So I'm scrambling. I got
Speaker 1: a deal with t v T. I need some of
Speaker 1: another act. I can't put no trust and faith in
Speaker 1: this bitchass nigga. So now I go to Jody. I'm
Speaker 1: going too fair. He's hustling broad daylight. I'm staring at
Speaker 1: that brow up right. So I'm telling you my fucking struggles.
Speaker 1: Jody says, Yo, I could wrap. I immediately said, get
Speaker 1: the funk out of him. What ain't here? You spent
Speaker 1: a verse? Since I know this, ain't got to know
Speaker 1: him in four minutes. Now, you're a rapper, nigga, You're
Speaker 1: a hustler, you're a drunk. So then he has a hustler. Dude,
Speaker 1: Now I'm in the group. Means the group, I said,
Speaker 1: I with the with's the group? He says, Yoe, oh
Speaker 1: one of job. I don't know these niggas. He brings
Speaker 1: me to him and truth be told. The minute Rule spit,
Speaker 1: I was in both feet. I think shortly after that,
Speaker 1: Jody goes in jail. He just locked and I just
Speaker 1: move on with go. Had a deal with Steve. Gotta leave.
Speaker 1: And what people don't know is how I got to
Speaker 1: Leo was because of Rule. I got to Leo because
Speaker 1: she was jacking. We was jacking the box. Every time
Speaker 1: we've seen Matthew Mary, I would order seven to eight,
Speaker 1: which was get the fortune. So Leo seen the ship
Speaker 1: and wanted to sign Rule. Wow. We on the box box.
Speaker 1: You knew they were going to see it, and they
Speaker 1: got my savage. Let me tell you how I did that.
Speaker 1: Savage attained the one nine? How you numbers? Because how
Speaker 1: the box made money? This was a great guy. This
Speaker 1: was money. Is the videos only playing like a twenty
Speaker 1: block radius and then there was a different one night
Speaker 1: on your number. This was I literally had in the
Speaker 1: whole country all of one nine hundred numbers. Don't ask
Speaker 1: me how I got it, nigga. But and we go
Speaker 1: to the studio, so listen. At first we was giving
Speaker 1: out the numbers to our family members, friends. Every time
Speaker 1: you see that fromership just usual because it cost so
Speaker 1: so I'm telling you so it got expensive. So it
Speaker 1: was like, we can't keep asking me to do this.
Speaker 1: Go to the studio and things said. We go to
Speaker 1: the studio, to the studio, you know, you know I killed,
Speaker 1: I know I killed. I stayed in that bitch dolo
Speaker 1: for three days right track Tony Dorsey Studios. Masterdisk is
Speaker 1: the facility that used to be for mastering records. And
Speaker 1: if you've ever been to a mastering facility, they treat
Speaker 1: you great. What do you want to go in there?
Speaker 1: One number work seven to eight? I'm lit. I stayed
Speaker 1: in there for three days. We broke the top ten
Speaker 1: and that was the TV or t V t ain't
Speaker 1: got no wow. I shot two videos for twenty grand.
Speaker 1: Here's another fun fact. Brother was bringing us still for
Speaker 1: this film stock from the case seven cold Maybe come baby.
Speaker 1: Then it comes to he started from man. He literally
Speaker 1: in his grand Cherokee. Oh, pop the trump the hatch
Speaker 1: and be giving us films to shoot our shore. I
Speaker 1: shot two videos from kids at Grandpas. You know, the
Speaker 1: bags were paying that money to shoot the So what
Speaker 1: he did thought five millimeter footage, man, so we can
Speaker 1: shoot our ship. Didn't put it on the box. Leoll
Speaker 1: story and they want a job. Le was like, who's
Speaker 1: the little guy? It was a huge voice Master Jason.
Speaker 1: They was having a meeting. No, the whole staff, this
Speaker 1: is this is urban fucking you know, urban tales and ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know how true this is, but they said
Speaker 1: it was having to me, you know, all of them
Speaker 1: in the in the room and they were fun. And
Speaker 1: then the video came on and j Master j stood
Speaker 1: up and said that little nigga right there, I know
Speaker 1: he's going to be a star. And then that Lee, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the know. The first time I
Speaker 1: met you was with Leo. That's that's that's crazy. Leo loveson.
Speaker 1: Yes he got you that, he got you that watch
Speaker 1: when Dimes was sucking dances right now, rapper get started
Speaker 1: and started started, Yeah, Leo really love yeah the artists.
Speaker 1: You know how he got X he got him a
Speaker 1: dog chain It was like he won him a dog
Speaker 1: chain and X was like the happiest to get in
Speaker 1: the world. I started hearing a little bit. But how
Speaker 1: come out of most of us, right, all of us
Speaker 1: made money with the all, but out of most of us,
Speaker 1: it's only one person who actually has a real discrepancy
Speaker 1: with Leon. Damn Yeah, why why why do you think that?
Speaker 1: And I'm Leo probably stone or help forge the bullshit
Speaker 1: between Damon Jake. But I suppose I was Leo. I
Speaker 1: can't do that with you, and yeah, no, he Leo
Speaker 1: is a wizard. He's all he had to do was go, Jay,
Speaker 1: you're cool with splitting this three ways? That it was
Speaker 1: over from that day because James Jake right, and he's
Speaker 1: sitting there looking and he's like, I don't really need
Speaker 1: I just need me. So all Leo had to do
Speaker 1: with drinking Jake. He pulled him glad, you're cool with
Speaker 1: this three ways split Baly and that's all he had
Speaker 1: to do. I'm not saying that that happened. I'm exaggerating that,
Speaker 1: but I think that's what happened, and that's why Dame
Speaker 1: will forever hate Leo enough. I was gonna go to
Speaker 1: deeper than that I was gonna don't want to think
Speaker 1: that's that's the if you're talking Leo, because his truth
Speaker 1: be told. When when we first got to def Jam,
Speaker 1: everyone loved Leo, Dame two, Dame two, Biggs, Biggs. It
Speaker 1: always was the cool nigga Jay. But we all you know,
Speaker 1: we'd be on the private jet going to Green Bay
Speaker 1: pack of games together. You know. No, and I might
Speaker 1: say that lambeau Field is absolutely the frozen tundra that
Speaker 1: they say. We left by halftime. There's two calls. I
Speaker 1: didn't get a cheesehead. We're trying to get blankets. Nigger,
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't understand. Let me hold one. This
Speaker 1: is like a high school stadium. Know what the see
Speaker 1: saw a metal bench, no, no back. It's like a
Speaker 1: high school stagient. This frozen. It was good, but we left.
Speaker 1: We got the funk out of the frozen tundra. Leo
Speaker 1: is a huge Green Bay pack of pack. But that's
Speaker 1: what it is. It was all based on They started
Speaker 1: separating JA and talking to j and drove Dame insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair enough. I went to Dame say
Speaker 1: that because Dame always he doesn't act like that's that
Speaker 1: he acts like it's like coach of Volte. I believe
Speaker 1: he uses the word yeah because he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: throw a different scenario in it. But Leo, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't feel Leo as a culture volta. Leo is
Speaker 1: just a tough fucking businessman, and if you let him
Speaker 1: jerk you, he's gonna jerk you. Like he used to say,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would have kept cutting his day making
Speaker 1: sixty thousand a yearn give me a bonus. I helped
Speaker 1: generate listen DMX May twelve. I believe Rush Hour soundtrack
Speaker 1: came out in August. Jay came out in September, and
Speaker 1: then the nigga was so greedy we needed another next album?
Speaker 1: Did you do it? And we throw it together in
Speaker 1: like two weeks. But in that year he probably just
Speaker 1: with those albums four on a MILLIONI grows. I think
Speaker 1: it makes a noise to that. Goddamn it. As you're
Speaker 1: making noise I was making sixty thousand. Didn't give me
Speaker 1: a bonus nothing, so didn't John really, And then what
Speaker 1: happens is Dave McPherson and Sony he offers me a label.
Speaker 1: D he said, He said let's go to dinner. He
Speaker 1: went to the shop bar, into the shop bar, and
Speaker 1: he says, I don't want you to produce no records.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give you a label. And I was like,
Speaker 1: but you know, every EXTRAJ and John they all signed that.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't care. We'll start something new and
Speaker 1: something fresh, and they offered me to label Dell. Then
Speaker 1: I met with Tommy and Tommy was ill, you need
Speaker 1: to be with me, Leo, he said, and then this
Speaker 1: nigga Leo was trying to do the deal and give
Speaker 1: me half. Because was it you who said that time
Speaker 1: with Toldo called um called Corey Runey, And that's the
Speaker 1: j Lo fiasco that I fucked him relationships seeing Corey
Speaker 1: Rooney at Solo House and he wanted to address it.
Speaker 1: But we've never got a chance to address. What's he
Speaker 1: gonna say that? He didn't say it. He didn't say
Speaker 1: it to him. He said it to me, right should
Speaker 1: I told said, I told that fat nigger. I said, nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna suck you up when I see you, This
Speaker 1: Nigga's gonna suck you up. And you ended that. Listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: That's why the whole j Lo interview happened. He did that,
Speaker 1: I hanged the phone up. ELM magazine calls me. I'm
Speaker 1: on ten, I'm on three, and didn't. I'm a fuck
Speaker 1: up with the story to We don't want to see
Speaker 1: you around you. But you know what, with j Lo,
Speaker 1: it's all my fault. I like that j Lo. It
Speaker 1: was nothing but a great friend, a great thing. She
Speaker 1: calls a magazine to get close from me. Bennie Medina
Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna be like the Quincy Jones of
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. Understand the two records I did for j
Speaker 1: Lo was monster number one all over the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all change your numbers immediately. I only did. I only
Speaker 1: did you. I sucked it up, though, but I'm just
Speaker 1: giving it. Ain't it ain't Uh, I'm just an idiot.
Speaker 1: I was on I was mad high and he just
Speaker 1: said I told that fat nig. I said, what are
Speaker 1: you talking? I'm gonna fuck you up. I'm on ten
Speaker 1: and it's I'm talking as I humped the phone, like
Speaker 1: a minute, this is such a such from EL magazine.
Speaker 1: I said, what the funk you want? Straight like that?
Speaker 1: He said, oh, I'll just I'll just get right to it.
Speaker 1: Then he said, I'm just kidding. I'll just get right
Speaker 1: to its journalist. Yes, sir, and he said he said,
Speaker 1: Jo said the records. I'm really ain't funny. It isn't
Speaker 1: about about puppy. I said. Worse, I said, the bitch
Speaker 1: is lying. Why would you repaint it on James Champs
Speaker 1: because because this is that's who he is at the
Speaker 1: same time you get dressed it on drink tamp Mario.
Speaker 1: Let's just say this. I'll say this. I was a
Speaker 1: fucking moron and the idiot and it's it's easily the
Speaker 1: top two regrets of my life. Listen, we gotta get
Speaker 1: up this. When when places did she say just don't
Speaker 1: bring it's amazing man? And I'm saying I was. I
Speaker 1: was sucking, which I was mad about it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because it's like because one thing you
Speaker 1: don't got nothing, one thing don't got to do with
Speaker 1: you other you gotta do. It's like it's like you
Speaker 1: want to drive bout nigga, you got to do woke
Speaker 1: up on the nigger. You want to hit man. You
Speaker 1: can't hit everybody on the block. Let me do get
Speaker 1: who I'm after. He didn't drive block drop block. Yeah
Speaker 1: you want to blasting him, go get him. You're mad
Speaker 1: at him, go get him. But all right, so we
Speaker 1: live and we learned. We gotta get past that ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm glad he's owning it.
Speaker 1: He says sorry about it a bunch of times. I
Speaker 1: don't even had conversations with Jennifer about it and what
Speaker 1: she has said. You know, of course she's not happy
Speaker 1: about it. She hates that ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She hates a lot of things that went on and
Speaker 1: things that transpired. But again, I can't always play the
Speaker 1: fucking middleman and this ship. I'm you know, listen, man,
Speaker 1: you know I need a new jet. I'm not advancedment
Speaker 1: to Jeff. Once he gets here, the starts burning. I
Speaker 1: don't want said. Yeah, you know, like I get in
Speaker 1: the middle of these situations where it's like I don't
Speaker 1: want to r t the situation. It's like, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just saying right here, I'm only in the middle because
Speaker 1: of the relationships I share with both parties, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I'm not actually in the middle
Speaker 1: because they have their leg they know, because they have
Speaker 1: their own relationship, and so I somehow try to mediate
Speaker 1: ship and make everything peaceful. That it doesn't always work
Speaker 1: out that way. But what you gotta understand sometimes you
Speaker 1: gotta separate church and state. It's fine, It's fine. You're
Speaker 1: saying Russian and fucking I'm not you say, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, two things can exist and be
Speaker 1: cordial and be respectful to each other's space and and
Speaker 1: and and and and and interviews and things we say
Speaker 1: you know about each other without it being uh think
Speaker 1: you know what. That's that's all my thing. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I ain't a little bit. No she fucked
Speaker 1: up because it's old and you both got over this,
Speaker 1: and I want to say, did you do said? I'm over?
Speaker 1: And I want what I'm saying. I want to say
Speaker 1: everything that you're hearing now it will be on the
Speaker 1: murder room. Motherfucker's I'll this is it gets expanded. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask why you lose right and you want
Speaker 1: to beat you? Remember why? Why? So let me ask
Speaker 1: what high off heroin? Um? Because there's been rumors. It's
Speaker 1: not only a shanty, but it has been rumors for
Speaker 1: you with Charlie bolld tomorrow, Like, is that sexually Yes,
Speaker 1: there's been rumors. No, never, okay, so never heard. I'm
Speaker 1: the when when you just said you didn't mess up
Speaker 1: with But was that kind of like did that ever
Speaker 1: get involved with the business part of it? Like you
Speaker 1: know that that you guys were most mantically involved. Did
Speaker 1: that ever, like you know, trickle down to the business
Speaker 1: like it helped her? Okay, I'm not trying. I'm not following.
Speaker 1: It helped he that y'all was together that I mean happy,
Speaker 1: big record, right, I'm so happy. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: how happy from me? Yea, hey, yeah, yeah, so happy.
Speaker 1: Let me let me explain how the relationship and how
Speaker 1: it worked and how it worked dating at this point. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so we're together back and watches. I imagine you both.
Speaker 1: I watched two. I bought a mad ship Okay, Okay, Birke,
Speaker 1: it's all that she she she gained, Okay, I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you Switzer stay out of it. Just finished sleeping
Speaker 1: together or whatever. Okay, I'm taking the shower. I'm in
Speaker 1: the shower. You know, nigga be creative after right, because
Speaker 1: it's story. I'll give you I'll give you the quick story.
Speaker 1: You can see the full story. I think it a
Speaker 1: whole track. In the shower, I'm do do do do
Speaker 1: do do do do do do do do? I get
Speaker 1: out the shower. I called my nigga Chink. I'm on
Speaker 1: the phone. Check y'all. Do dude, dude, we get to
Speaker 1: the studio. Chang, dude, cheft it up to beat everything. Okay,
Speaker 1: now it's time for you to write. Yo. I want
Speaker 1: this ship to be a feel good joint like summertime things.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy, baby, I mean with that dutiful record.
Speaker 1: That record came about because of our energy. You missed
Speaker 1: that energy a little bit. Not anymore when when like
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, when we stopped to take fresh out
Speaker 1: of it. I actually again, yeah, yeah, you don't go
Speaker 1: on her Graham sometime if you absolutely not, come on.
Speaker 1: I'm being I'm I'm being listen. I'm being that serious.
Speaker 1: And if I'm being that serious, if you take a
Speaker 1: look at some of my girlfriends or whatever, Yo, they're banging.
Speaker 1: They get they all banging, they banging. But you see
Speaker 1: you see Nellie flew out for verses again. And that's
Speaker 1: my good friend. I'm good friends with Nellie and all good.
Speaker 1: That ain't men because that old back nigger I got stupid.
Speaker 1: I'm just keeping it on it. I got I got
Speaker 1: some serious stage. You ain't never seen her thirst track. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'll see it when like shade room mobile at so
Speaker 1: you'll be seeing it, right. And I honestly don't give
Speaker 1: one single fuck yo, And I'm telling you the truth.
Speaker 1: I'm not like, oh my god, fucking jund look out
Speaker 1: good years dr n that been, They're done that And
Speaker 1: the chicken sitting next to me, it's I don't want
Speaker 1: to say crushing her, but nigger, she's in the twenties
Speaker 1: and ridiculously hot, disgusting. I think if I bring any
Speaker 1: of my girls through this motherfucker sunny you, like everyone
Speaker 1: in the would be like un so not to say,
Speaker 1: it's just said, I'm I'm way past that. And it's
Speaker 1: like you have a I think, like I know that person.
Speaker 1: So the rest of the world doesn't know that person,
Speaker 1: but you know, people change, give a fun. I know
Speaker 1: that person, and I am cool with where we are
Speaker 1: with not speaking, not anything we tried to do. The
Speaker 1: murdering ship that was like an olive branch. I ain't
Speaker 1: never fucking with that. I ain't doing no murdering ship.
Speaker 1: They wanted to shan TBT fucking the producers. They wanted
Speaker 1: the Shanti to tell her side of the story. They
Speaker 1: tried three separate times. They even as mama, j'all she is.
Speaker 1: He's like, I mean, y'all, just we don't want to
Speaker 1: not have give her the ability to say her side
Speaker 1: of the story. But she's never gonna do that because
Speaker 1: she's never gonna say she was in love with me.
Speaker 1: She's never gonna say we was taking of her bringing
Speaker 1: a dream. Yeah, we would love that and let her
Speaker 1: lie to you dodge the question, no, because I don't
Speaker 1: dodge r evade. You asked me a question. I answered,
Speaker 1: I see this. There was no shame in us being together.
Speaker 1: She wasn't responsible for my divorce. I could give you
Speaker 1: three of her chicks that was I was being separated
Speaker 1: and out the fucking house. She was so the things
Speaker 1: that she's concerned with, I'm like, yo, I've told her
Speaker 1: back then, you're not the person she wasn't. She wasn't
Speaker 1: sucking me to get a record deal. She got a
Speaker 1: record deal through a man, Mary o'baysa who was a
Speaker 1: mutual friend. He had a sign and she worked for
Speaker 1: her deal. When I first met her, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm doing Jackson Joe. I ain't got no time to
Speaker 1: do no R and B. But here's what you could do.
Speaker 1: Just hang around being the studio. Be a studio rat.
Speaker 1: She was in the studio every fucking day. That's how
Speaker 1: she got the big pun record because people was calling
Speaker 1: me to do records. That's how she got what's love.
Speaker 1: This is all positive, positive. This is a put that
Speaker 1: girl on. I'm not saying that as braggadocious. It's real.
Speaker 1: I put her the funk on and the end rule
Speaker 1: by saying, yeah, she's gon ahead, let bon bond get
Speaker 1: on always on time. We put her on. So for
Speaker 1: her to say, I don't want to do this no more,
Speaker 1: I don't respect it. And that ship, that ship like,
Speaker 1: I'm a family nigger, right, I'm the youngest of eight kids.
Speaker 1: So everything you ever see earth gotty about. I mentioned
Speaker 1: my brother his family references, so my thing with murder rank.
Speaker 1: When she said I don't want to do this no more,
Speaker 1: that ship cut deep nigger, because I put you the
Speaker 1: funk on. I named you the princess because I see
Speaker 1: you put your your sign up. She didn't do that right,
Speaker 1: she did that. I don't want to do it no more?
Speaker 1: Really where was this? That? And my maid back and
Speaker 1: your mate back? She threw up the gang side and
Speaker 1: you may back. She's like stuff. I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing this so that that doesn't means she's leaving the company.
Speaker 1: That means she don't. She don't want to be a
Speaker 1: part of this ship no more. That's different, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I can't this after the fas came though, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, like rule says that only and
Speaker 1: I'm totally outside and getting that. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: can see how that sounds the average individual. I can see.
Speaker 1: I can see that guy he like, how you know what?
Speaker 1: I mean that that can scare to have an individual whatever, No, no,
Speaker 1: And just to be clear, there's no me. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I realized that. I realized. I realized that your songs, gotti,
Speaker 1: see you're not living without reading without you just words niggas.
Speaker 1: That's the fucking song. But you will get I gotta
Speaker 1: loved to go my souland nigga soul mean nigga. But
Speaker 1: so you you what would you do if you was me?
Speaker 1: And you in these words, y'all in love and ship y'all.
Speaker 1: Every day we're together, that's the problem. Every day for
Speaker 1: like two years, except the day she's with Nelly M.
Speaker 1: She got real. I don't even shot fans. Okay, different
Speaker 1: kind of drink. VT gave me no more. Tune in
Speaker 1: to see the rest, tune in the Oh my love.
Speaker 1: I I just wanted to know I was never definitely
Speaker 1: with him. What I say is one of the saying
Speaker 1: is is about to have this story and this is
Speaker 1: Earth's story? Which is which is the true story and
Speaker 1: the story. I don't have the side of the story.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. You know what I'm saying, Your side
Speaker 1: of the stories? No, no, No, His side of the
Speaker 1: story is he did. It was a part of helping
Speaker 1: put her on like me and me and grew put
Speaker 1: her on. I made the record with that. But rule
Speaker 1: being listen, who's the biggest nigger in the world. We
Speaker 1: could have got j Lo to be on always on time.
Speaker 1: We could have got any fucking huge name to be
Speaker 1: on always on time. Goddy fucking let Shohnny doul. But
Speaker 1: that was the right they was the right choice. I'm
Speaker 1: always for my own I'm always for family. And guess
Speaker 1: what it happed me on top and I like to
Speaker 1: say that this is what we was trying to talk to. Yes,
Speaker 1: we always listen SA record, great record. This is why
Speaker 1: the ship cuts like a scar because we did so much.
Speaker 1: We took you. She had two other deals before our deal.
Speaker 1: I think she was with like R C A. And
Speaker 1: I think Sony that was trying to make her Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: I used none of those records, right, she came with
Speaker 1: us and not only named the Princess and everything. We
Speaker 1: put that sound on her, that murdering sound that that
Speaker 1: bomb did do. We put that sound on one of
Speaker 1: the biggest rappers in the game at the time, allowed
Speaker 1: her to get on his number one record. So a
Speaker 1: piece of me be like, I funk our relationship, Right,
Speaker 1: I could get past that. I get mad girls. I've
Speaker 1: never had a problem getting bad chicks. Never, man, keep going,
Speaker 1: keep You've never had a problem. Right, I could get
Speaker 1: past you want to be with Nelly. It sounds like
Speaker 1: you didn't get past that. Listen, listen at the time
Speaker 1: it happens, any man, it's you. It's the chick you
Speaker 1: fucking are in love with is with this nagain. Grandma,
Speaker 1: you want to you want to hear how I found
Speaker 1: out only on drink chat. We saw on the documentary too.
Speaker 1: How did you find out, sir? I was at home?
Speaker 1: Uh huh. There wasn't no Twitter or Instagram back there
Speaker 1: at home. Listen to this ship. This is God wanted
Speaker 1: me to find. That was that home NBA package. I
Speaker 1: like watching spoils. Wait wait, I mak de Roses playing Rose.
Speaker 1: Tune into the Chicago game at home in t rebeca fidolo.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what's this commotion going on in the stadium.
Speaker 1: We just found out what the commotion is. Nellie has
Speaker 1: walked in with the shot teth But you didn't know.
Speaker 1: You didn't know that. I knew nothing. I was creative.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's better the stage. That's that's how it.
Speaker 1: Niggas found out. Honest you said you wasn't a little
Speaker 1: hurt earlier. I said in the beginning of this hurt. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm talking you get to the hurt part because I
Speaker 1: wanted you see it on NBA All Star Game, Nellie
Speaker 1: All Star just lead pass. I'm checking out my nigga
Speaker 1: de Rose and Nellie is going and he's saying, this
Speaker 1: is the announcement. What is the commotion going on in
Speaker 1: the stadium. Something is going on. Come back off the commercial.
Speaker 1: We found out what's going on. It seems as though
Speaker 1: Nellie has walked in with the Shanti. That's how I
Speaker 1: found out. No two way nigg That's how I found out.
Speaker 1: But here's what I'm saying, m and please, this is
Speaker 1: the truth. I'm I don't speak all of this truths
Speaker 1: when I don't suppose to speak it. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a liar. So just know every word that I
Speaker 1: say is a hundred percent. I could have got past that,
Speaker 1: but I could never get past yoll. I don't want
Speaker 1: to do this no more that Curt that cut me
Speaker 1: a thousand times harder than her. Fucking Nelly Nigga niggas. Fuck,
Speaker 1: I'm a funk. I don't fuck Mad Nigga's girls. I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think that. Motherfucking calm that
Speaker 1: come back, right, ladies, if you've been sucking the best,
Speaker 1: that's your whole life. Camma says, you're gonna get a
Speaker 1: little common not a chick that you you really love.
Speaker 1: And you know, I try to tell everybody with a shanty.
Speaker 1: It was a difference because I never had no chick
Speaker 1: that I could talk to after we fust never maybe
Speaker 1: one or two Jesus, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: with a shanty was like everything after Yo, we should
Speaker 1: do this, we should do Yo. I'm taking scar Faced
Speaker 1: Mary Jane, nigga, take the flow. Take the flow. That's
Speaker 1: all part of what I'm saying. I'm getting millions of
Speaker 1: dollars with my bitch. I didn't want it to stop.
Speaker 1: I was like, you did not want it to stop.
Speaker 1: I wanted to stop. Think I'm so secure in my
Speaker 1: gangster they get in securing who the funk I am
Speaker 1: in this universe. I could tell you when I'm hurt.
Speaker 1: I could tell you when I'm vulnerable or whatever. Nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm an open bull. That's why they silence young Malcolm,
Speaker 1: because I just keep it real. What's the answer. This
Speaker 1: is the answer to that. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: But I say this to say this, nigga. This is
Speaker 1: your family, we made you, this is my nigga, put
Speaker 1: you on the ship. This. You can't abandon this. You
Speaker 1: can't And you're gonna say you don't want to do this.
Speaker 1: I'll never get over that. But so it started after
Speaker 1: the game and then but the FETs, the FETs still
Speaker 1: have to come into account. This is okay. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are saying, you know, the nine conviction rate,
Speaker 1: So she would she would be saying to me and
Speaker 1: like emotional crime, like you they told me you're gonna
Speaker 1: go to jail. Just to be clicking. Now, let's just
Speaker 1: be clear. This is a this is a good point
Speaker 1: as an outside of that's looking in. That's that's the
Speaker 1: way that I'm pointing y'all out. Listen. They were like
Speaker 1: these things going to jail, and I'm quite and I
Speaker 1: quite sure that hurt people was telling that this is
Speaker 1: a good thing for you. You're the hottest R and
Speaker 1: b motherfucker God, he's gonna go to jail and your
Speaker 1: free yourself loose flash. Not guilty, bitch, not guilty, bitch,
Speaker 1: you and your team not guilty, bitch. I told all
Speaker 1: you motherfucker's I ain't do it. No one believe me.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that could have came at
Speaker 1: me for well, not a lot, but some things. But
Speaker 1: with that, I remember I asked my lawyer, I said,
Speaker 1: what exactly is money laundering? Tell me. They said, well,
Speaker 1: money launders are drug dealers dealing drugs and then they
Speaker 1: give you drug proceeds for you to write a check.
Speaker 1: So I was. I was a founder of Crime Partners.
Speaker 1: Donal Donald going remade Crime part I gave him, I said,
Speaker 1: I gave him fifty tho. He didn't give me no money.
Speaker 1: I did that to invest in the movie. I said,
Speaker 1: I didn't just do it. There's other names that did it.
Speaker 1: I said, it's that money launder. They said no, I said,
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell him they sucked my dick the fast to
Speaker 1: my mom, Yes, okay, I said, tell him they get
Speaker 1: suck my deck. And I did it for my man
Speaker 1: because they offered me a sweet deal. Six months, right,
Speaker 1: so six months I'd be back home in a in
Speaker 1: a heartbeat. But if I plead guilty, now, I'm saying
Speaker 1: prem sold drugs and getting the drug proceeds. So pleading
Speaker 1: guilty are you're going to plead when all of this
Speaker 1: is involved. It's kind of like dry snitching, insane opposite
Speaker 1: of Bobby's murder did for his man. It would be
Speaker 1: the opposite because people would say you were all roted
Speaker 1: your own boy. I'm never gonna do that I was
Speaker 1: never gonna do it to Preme knowing what he's facing.
Speaker 1: So once they explained that casas so, if I plead guilty,
Speaker 1: I'm basically saying Prem sold drugs and gave me drug money.
Speaker 1: He said, yes, said tell him suck my dick. I'm not,
Speaker 1: I said, if they get my man, it ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be me helping him. Right now. Speaking of Prame, uh
Speaker 1: we hear this talks of you making a Preme movie
Speaker 1: or Preme Team movie that's already in effects. No, Todd Phillips.
Speaker 1: Todd Phillips made the Joker. That's not to hangover nigger.
Speaker 1: He's also to hang over guys. So Todd Phillips and
Speaker 1: Christian and my brother Nick Cassavetti's and uh, I gotta
Speaker 1: I got a great crew to do it. And this
Speaker 1: with Warner Brothers. Okay, so let's ask. I gotta ask.
Speaker 1: There's another guy from Queen's who says he has a
Speaker 1: Preme movie, who Benny Bammy the job? Here about nobody
Speaker 1: a pre Team Movie's abil what he wants. He was
Speaker 1: a part of the Supreme team and everything like that.
Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be a story that Prime is
Speaker 1: involved with so he'll be on his own telling the
Speaker 1: story of Premium Prince. But they're not with him, and
Speaker 1: they with me, and and my movie is coming out
Speaker 1: is gonna be a big movie. Todd Phillips did the joke,
Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen. He he to Hangover trilogy. He's gross
Speaker 1: for Warner Brothers billions of dollars. No, this is a movie.
Speaker 1: And then after the movie, the Murdering TV series. Well,
Speaker 1: all of the stuff that you see on the documentary
Speaker 1: only on VT will bring to life in the rich
Speaker 1: rich I would pay for and own. So all of
Speaker 1: you out there that talk about me and and and saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you're doing this for this, you're doing this for that
Speaker 1: or whatever like that, nigga ain't knowing me. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't know no one that creates their own content directs.
Speaker 1: Listen right, I got Tales Presents, we made it in America,
Speaker 1: the movie we get told about. I'm doing the competition
Speaker 1: to find the Storm, blessed and great relationship with BT. Yeah,
Speaker 1: BT is my family. But tell Us first started with
Speaker 1: Tales and title Tails was always BET the second window.
Speaker 1: But my deal was with BT on title it was
Speaker 1: the second window. You don't come on, come on, you
Speaker 1: showing up, baby, showing up on the bottle. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna own it. I'm gonna amazing with my guy,
Speaker 1: Olivier Chaston. Okay, so um yo, just I think it's
Speaker 1: time for the flowers, man, because I'll show you skinned
Speaker 1: together we have we have flowers for b J two.
Speaker 1: Well we thought BJ was being here, but let me
Speaker 1: just tell y'all Gotti yeah for them the show separate. Yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know we love J. But we're gonna give y'all
Speaker 1: J Floers'll give it. You want to get your second one.
Speaker 1: You're the only one who has to know. And Sloop said,
Speaker 1: it's like Snoop said, it's better than the ground because
Speaker 1: he's getting it from his peers. But we want to
Speaker 1: We want to tell you because because to family, just
Speaker 1: because we friends doesn't take away from your greatness. Man,
Speaker 1: the things that y'all have done, the things that y'all
Speaker 1: continue to do. We want to sit there salute you
Speaker 1: to your face. We don't want something to happen to
Speaker 1: you and be like, oh, they were great, then No,
Speaker 1: we want to tell you how great you are now
Speaker 1: to your face. You know what I mean? Continue success.
Speaker 1: We want y'all to motherfucker continue monkey footing and doing
Speaker 1: this goddamn thing because, uh, we're proud of y'all man
Speaker 1: and coming. Wait, let's make a Lloyd for them. I'm
Speaker 1: proud of yours. I'll say this. It's a great thing
Speaker 1: because most rappers, you ain't gonna be like job Rule,
Speaker 1: who's still toning in crazy money. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Most rappers are not gonna be. So for you to
Speaker 1: pivot to this and create a whole new brands genus, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. Got that makes so let's move. Let's move
Speaker 1: because we also about murder, inc right, so we gotta
Speaker 1: talk about murder against this totality. We've basically covered every
Speaker 1: ground when it comes to a Tauanti All right, that's cool, right,
Speaker 1: And we understand that you might say where we're wrong,
Speaker 1: she might say on the relationship had to take a
Speaker 1: part of it, regardless, We've got moving on Lloyd is
Speaker 1: something that I'm very confused about because Okay, I have
Speaker 1: no idea where this left or if it's left, or
Speaker 1: you should because everything was great with Lloyd. Okay, everything
Speaker 1: was great with Lloyd until he was in the geniunit.
Speaker 1: Video Doog told me because it wasn't a big record
Speaker 1: for me. I didn't have no problem with Lloyd. I
Speaker 1: had absolutely none. He was the little baby bro. And
Speaker 1: then I see this thing in fucking with fifty and Gil.
Speaker 1: You don't remember that the record did nothing. But I've
Speaker 1: seen it. You've seen it. It's just certain things. And
Speaker 1: that's where that's when the bullshit started with me and him,
Speaker 1: Like what you do that? You you screaming? Fuck me? No?
Speaker 1: How would you take it? Yes? But but what would
Speaker 1: have led to him? Even ye, there's nothing nigger if
Speaker 1: I told you look at told you to jail where
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot and I did that. There's no idiot
Speaker 1: stories with Lord I get. I think of my sixty
Speaker 1: two Continental. He was like Caddie on Man's busy. Correct, No,
Speaker 1: it's a sixty old schools school gamously the car that
Speaker 1: JFK got killed. Okay, okay, I'm sixty two convertible Continental.
Speaker 1: I had. I had that, my man, She'll put like
Speaker 1: a It was system for Night Night. He did the interior.
Speaker 1: He he said, oh, I gotta note this out doing
Speaker 1: decorate interior for you guys? Are we talking about? Night?
Speaker 1: Was our friends no bullshit, no nothing. He's seeing the
Speaker 1: old school and did it. I gave that call the Lord.
Speaker 1: There is no story of of of me or anybody
Speaker 1: doing anything Lloyd to make him go do that. This
Speaker 1: is some good week one another one yea holy ship.
Speaker 1: So that was okay, okay. So because y'all recently did
Speaker 1: do like a murder, ain't getting altogether right. Listen, let
Speaker 1: me backtrack. Let's backtrack, let me backtrack, brack right, because listen, man,
Speaker 1: I could have been a motherfucking I could have been
Speaker 1: a bad, bad man. Meaning I'm on the label, y'all.
Speaker 1: You got a contract with me. Boy, you want to
Speaker 1: break out and go to Inniscope, I mean I'll be
Speaker 1: after y'all going through y'all. Tobacco Jimmy has always been great. Okay,
Speaker 1: great fucking You want to go to Inniscope, you gotta
Speaker 1: dam on the table. I could have easily say, yo,
Speaker 1: give me a million dollars contract. I ain't do that, ship, nigga.
Speaker 1: I ain't say yo, you could go, but I need
Speaker 1: to check five hundred thousands something. You just let him go.
Speaker 1: Just let niggas go on. Let him sucking a shot.
Speaker 1: T go. Niggas don't know that could I could have
Speaker 1: been a fucking monster to hub I only recalled it.
Speaker 1: What were four albums or whatever like that I had?
Speaker 1: I think seven, I had like three more to go.
Speaker 1: I signed and let her go free, and she with
Speaker 1: the conch After that, whenever she went to she was
Speaker 1: free to do written entertainment. But Nigga, I could have
Speaker 1: been a bad, salty, bitter guy and said, no, bitch,
Speaker 1: you got to give me some bread. You gotta stop
Speaker 1: calling him. You're right, beautiful black the mane you like,
Speaker 1: I understand what? Okay? This is why when she wants
Speaker 1: to recreate and do covers and I'm like, damn man.
Speaker 1: I I never was bad to her. Never I treated
Speaker 1: as an artist. She got treated fucking great. Everything she wanted.
Speaker 1: She didn't want my and Mario to not being deal,
Speaker 1: no more than they who brought her to me. I
Speaker 1: got him out to deal. I thought we changed subjects.
Speaker 1: What happened, Let's change a little bit more. We mentioned
Speaker 1: unless time you was here. We spoke a little bit
Speaker 1: about this. I think we spoke a lot about it
Speaker 1: in the series. Do you guys cover any of the
Speaker 1: conversations that you guys had with Ja Prince about building
Speaker 1: that distribution that will be in the TV series in
Speaker 1: the Dock in the doc. Yeah, I don't know why
Speaker 1: I should have Like that was crazy. This was Michael
Speaker 1: Peyton and directed the Dock. When he sees this, you're
Speaker 1: gonna him up with that, He's like, I missed that
Speaker 1: talking about that because that's the conspiracy that everybody. Honestly,
Speaker 1: Price would have did my doc if we called him
Speaker 1: me and J Prince have a listen. He just he
Speaker 1: should have with that because without that, then why do
Speaker 1: you need J Prince to just talk about And they
Speaker 1: actually let it Shill do interviews right now. Yeah he
Speaker 1: I think he did. Yeah he did million dollars from
Speaker 1: Proper Game. Yeah, come talk. Yeah, but you trying to
Speaker 1: get hugged though you got you got bet, you got bet,
Speaker 1: got credentioes bro I walk in through this, listen, I
Speaker 1: got I got many moons ago, but one time MTV
Speaker 1: we that's how we used it. We used yeah he
Speaker 1: got an over the doors, yeah, or it up. So
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's give it a try. And we
Speaker 1: heard that you just got nas on the documentary, just
Speaker 1: got just got nis queens get the money queen's get
Speaker 1: the money making money. Yeah, just got I did. He
Speaker 1: got a dock on Supreme Team. He got a dock
Speaker 1: on Supreme Tea. Yeah. That so it was like we
Speaker 1: did each other. It was good ship. It was good ship,
Speaker 1: all right. That's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. No one loves
Speaker 1: queens more than eyes too. I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: think we all love it. We all love queens, but
Speaker 1: he loves loves queens. You know, I got to Rock
Speaker 1: the Bells concert. Yeah, trying to bring you out on
Speaker 1: the low. I don't think I'm in town. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring you out. Yeah, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: you know I always come. You know, this is like
Speaker 1: my first time like performing I believe in New York
Speaker 1: City in six years or something like that. And it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's monumental stage as thank God and drink
Speaker 1: chance might be there. We are, we are there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if our wife do squad was going
Speaker 1: to do it though, um, but hopefully, you know, I
Speaker 1: would say it's it's monumental because remember Rock the Bells
Speaker 1: was a big festival that didn't include what he had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, and he had to fight
Speaker 1: to get the name back. Oh yeah, so this is
Speaker 1: the first time he's yeah serious or some right there
Speaker 1: yet Remember there was that Rock the Bells festival before
Speaker 1: that was big right right do that and he for
Speaker 1: the name. Yeah, so that sounds yeah man, good round man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So rules, Um, what's going on with the movies? You're
Speaker 1: still talking about the movies? Man? Yeah, I was still
Speaker 1: doing just ship. I got some ship coming up. You know,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to shoot this film call re View,
Speaker 1: and I was supposed I played detective in the film.
Speaker 1: But I got I got some other films coming up.
Speaker 1: But that film got derailed a little bit because of
Speaker 1: COVID and then the director got some some some issues.
Speaker 1: But but but this that's that's still you know, I'm
Speaker 1: still shooting at But then, um, you know, I got
Speaker 1: some other action films that I'm that I'm about to shoot.
Speaker 1: They you know, they found out that I you know,
Speaker 1: I do well overseas. Yeah, and they say yeah, they say,
Speaker 1: they say people like me and movies overseas. They like
Speaker 1: enjoy with what you MANE Stevens to go that would
Speaker 1: have to they liked me these joints. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that ain't that they might like that, they might have sneakers.
Speaker 1: What's joint as no questions. I was asking that as
Speaker 1: I was a wild boy and ok yeah, but but
Speaker 1: but yeah, I got a bunch of films stuff that
Speaker 1: I'm doing, you know, working on it. But you know this,
Speaker 1: this is a very fun industry right now, very fun
Speaker 1: on top. You should get back out on the road
Speaker 1: and look at you try and throw your ship in there. Good.
Speaker 1: I got you enough. First album, want icon um you
Speaker 1: know we we I'm just saying, he with some you
Speaker 1: didn't have this. It's a classic. Please spoke. We spoke
Speaker 1: about her doing the vibes. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I've spoken to a lot of artists and it's
Speaker 1: gonna expand in a lot of ways. Okay, come coming
Speaker 1: coming down the far a lot of fun. Okay, So
Speaker 1: let's talk about tails for a second. God, Yes, I
Speaker 1: had an epiphany. Okay, the rule brought up something. And
Speaker 1: I'm always conscious of my brother when he said to me,
Speaker 1: because I know he loves me, and I just want
Speaker 1: to put a disclaimer all the women out there out there.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to say bitch, but it's like me
Speaker 1: saying nigga for men. I shouldn't say nigga either, but
Speaker 1: I'm nig nigga all day. So I don't want you
Speaker 1: to think when you hear me say bitch so freely,
Speaker 1: I'm just a nigga off the block that that's just how.
Speaker 1: This just how I told. That's my brother. I'm here right.
Speaker 1: So I want to make a disclaimer and I want
Speaker 1: to say first and foremost, I love women. For those
Speaker 1: that don't know me, I I love women. I was
Speaker 1: raised my mother. I put high it in God. My mother,
Speaker 1: my Nini is everything to me, black woman I was
Speaker 1: raised by. I'm the youngest of eight kids. I've got
Speaker 1: five sisters, Mona, Angie, Nicki, Tina, Dana, and they all
Speaker 1: helped raise me. There's no way I could ever just respect.
Speaker 1: It's no way. I have nothing but women who I
Speaker 1: worship around me. I want them to want them. I
Speaker 1: want them to hear that. I want them to understand.
Speaker 1: And no, I love women, all all my girlfriends. But
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like I'm gonna hatter women. No girlfriends,
Speaker 1: all my girlfriends that I that my ex girls, my
Speaker 1: ex girlfriends, if you talk to them, I'm still cool
Speaker 1: with all of them. I don't. I don't have like.
Speaker 1: I'm not that guy. I do not hate on my
Speaker 1: ex I do not hate on just follow their girls,
Speaker 1: just make sure they're doing bad. I don't want any
Speaker 1: of my exes. If I can help them do better,
Speaker 1: I would help them like I got love for all
Speaker 1: of them. That's what I'm saying. I the person who
Speaker 1: I am is so far from calling women bitches or whatever. Listen,
Speaker 1: look at all of the music me and roommate. It's
Speaker 1: all for women. It's all for women. And what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is the reason why that music came out so great.
Speaker 1: It's two guys high offction listen, but it's two guys
Speaker 1: who have a deep love. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's two guys who have a deep love pass for women.
Speaker 1: That's why those guys. Yeah, you see, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so please. When Ruth said that I was
Speaker 1: in there, I was like, damn, what coming across like
Speaker 1: a female hater? Ain't even shine? I posed a question,
Speaker 1: sunny guy, who about asking you? Just ask you a question.
Speaker 1: If someone who you made says they don't want to
Speaker 1: do this no more, how would you feel give me
Speaker 1: a real answer. Just give it to me. You feel her,
Speaker 1: it would be her betrayal, disloyal all that ship. When
Speaker 1: you get to m damn short with me because if
Speaker 1: I don't know you, I don't fuck. There's my questions,
Speaker 1: my question, Switzer. Let's go. I want to how long?
Speaker 1: Because the hurt last cancer ship now definitely can't got
Speaker 1: to get over You don't guy, might be hurt yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh you got sunny making a sense? She is. Here's
Speaker 1: what I said. This thing you don't gonna make sense?
Speaker 1: It works both ways, d it works both ways, yo,
Speaker 1: rule we should do the murder rate the w you
Speaker 1: you told we're talking to Live Nation. Live Nation is
Speaker 1: when it I never do why it's olive branch. It
Speaker 1: works both ways. Olive branch. When it's like, Yo, we
Speaker 1: got some money frands, mother fu village. Yeah, I'm so
Speaker 1: happy wanted that. Yeah. Can you give a great Stevie franchise?
Speaker 1: He always got a mini story, mini storties. He can't
Speaker 1: get it. Guys, listen to Murder Eggs performing in Houston
Speaker 1: like a day after the Rockets is playing. So we
Speaker 1: decided to go who you know this fucking story? Mother
Speaker 1: harder mother. We had like twenty floor seats from Sinacore
Speaker 1: all the way day. So Steve my man Steven franchise
Speaker 1: busting this day, playing the Golden State Warriors before step Carrie.
Speaker 1: We put a hunted in seventy thousand that wasn't the
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, absolutely because the nigga who finished us
Speaker 1: was given it was originally the Warriors. Listen, you don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, didn't know that. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: fucking tired, nigga, bring seven you back and give us
Speaker 1: my nigga, fuck you big, and you know, me and
Speaker 1: my brother gamble. So we set it on fifty thousands
Speaker 1: for fifty racks sucking the rockets. It was minus eve
Speaker 1: fifty west. We were gonna be in the building. See
Speaker 1: fan just Cat Patino, They're gonna bust these things. So
Speaker 1: we did, yeah, five thousand, don't give me ten, give
Speaker 1: me twenty five. So we had like a hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand and on this remember this game, so
Speaker 1: we have so much fun holding I'm calling fucking giving
Speaker 1: aw it's calling a zero because you you don't us up.
Speaker 1: You take totally thin wheel on three pills and listen listen,
Speaker 1: hold on, not early, not this is just friendship. But listen,
Speaker 1: I would never do this if you were still on
Speaker 1: the rockets. Three pills and I'm talking three pills when
Speaker 1: they fully set in, not hurly three. You know what
Speaker 1: it wasn't It was like sweet v joint like this,
Speaker 1: and that's why the snig is happily fucking guilty. He's
Speaker 1: a rookie. Fucking rookie. I think it was guilt. Was
Speaker 1: still in an apro right, so bo. He's having so
Speaker 1: much fun. You know how the ball from the game
Speaker 1: will dribble to you. He came to b J Juel
Speaker 1: doing the car and did a spin. Moving later in.
Speaker 1: It was like, so he let me set it Tom.
Speaker 1: They're doing their job. It got these niggers. The game
Speaker 1: is about over, has like eight five. It was under
Speaker 1: ten seconds, and this is where he fucked us. He
Speaker 1: fucks so now, no, you wucked us, nigga, No, don't
Speaker 1: remember it. I'm like that nigga fu alone. So now
Speaker 1: my nigga continue no monthly and lay a cat cat
Speaker 1: damn seven. I'm like, cat, we need go, nigga, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm letting me go. You gotta get that we gotta
Speaker 1: get there. Listen, listen, listen, pull up there, if you
Speaker 1: can pull up tape, if you game tape or whatever,
Speaker 1: you could show this because he's at the line and
Speaker 1: you're doing shoe because while I'm screaming we need to
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, we gotta hunt it and seven like this.
Speaker 1: He's a little at the line. He's just shaking his head.
Speaker 1: He's shaking his head. But what did my nigga do?
Speaker 1: He's sunk? Do both games over? Get fucking over? What
Speaker 1: the funk Gilbert to get the ball and she's there
Speaker 1: there like step Curry forty fund sunking, just the fucking
Speaker 1: beat the spread. It was yo, yo, who killed I
Speaker 1: can't believe you get this? And after we wanted to
Speaker 1: kill he really stuff torching him. I'm like, that's the nigga, nigga,
Speaker 1: But now it was your phone and you had no
Speaker 1: reason but listen the whole games, the wholl arena hundred
Speaker 1: seventy five one. This is the whole arena. Now the
Speaker 1: rest knew, everyone knew, and Gil's over there rules hacking
Speaker 1: um nigga fu nigga thing, doing this fucking birdie and
Speaker 1: fucking the way nigga. Nigga talking this nigga like Yo,
Speaker 1: this nigga ran down there and crushed our soul. I
Speaker 1: was calling him to don what's gonna do? You don't
Speaker 1: that down finish fish? Do you understand his five seconds left?
Speaker 1: There by nine? The game's over you. I would say
Speaker 1: that the funniest, the funniest, the funniest NBA tackle story
Speaker 1: of me. But I was sucking hackling. Uh. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really heckling. It was Vince car to play against the Knicks.
Speaker 1: This is my brother. We Vince party have a great time.
Speaker 1: So they played the Knicks. So I'm rooting from this right.
Speaker 1: Charles Oakley got mad as a motherfucker. N Yeah, he
Speaker 1: looked at me on the still and said, man, fuck you,
Speaker 1: I said this give to It wasn't like who was
Speaker 1: it Larry Grandmama Johnson. It wasn't. It was wasn't Okle showing.
Speaker 1: I'm positive I was sitting right next to you. I
Speaker 1: turned around. It was like shaft, look, yeah, brought me
Speaker 1: big lotely probably have swung at it was so mad.
Speaker 1: Was like people loaded. He probably was swung a big
Speaker 1: steaming frish man, big shot, make some step shot that's
Speaker 1: the legend, legend. I got NBA stories. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: not not drink kids out of Kobe Bryant. Bryant similar thing.
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant's playing the Indiana Paces. This is lakes, Reggie Miller.
Speaker 1: Reggie was there for the step over. We was there
Speaker 1: for the ship. I said, I got NBA like and
Speaker 1: then that was that. That was the time for wh
Speaker 1: listen before Kobe is and he was moving. Was in
Speaker 1: stables with that at the legged game room for a
Speaker 1: pus these snakes as this. I would never do that.
Speaker 1: After Kobe played for me at the Rocket though that
Speaker 1: was pre Rocket. Me and rules the only niggas in
Speaker 1: they're telling the I get these thicket show that thinking.
Speaker 1: When the game was over, he came to me and
Speaker 1: rule like nigger because it was Chuck was my brother.
Speaker 1: We used to be mean rubber Chuck used to video
Speaker 1: Man one time were in New York. He said he
Speaker 1: played the night before and the one of his hotel
Speaker 1: lobbies and ship getting drink it. Now we used to
Speaker 1: do too. We're need getting drinks and ship. So I
Speaker 1: was getting late. I'm like, all right, nig, I'm making
Speaker 1: a move. Nig, I'm making like I got to nixt
Speaker 1: to mom, like you're being disrespectful. Good he said. He
Speaker 1: I said he kept drinking because he said he got
Speaker 1: the damn that check was the savage I got. I
Speaker 1: got you man, I got it checking with the savage,
Speaker 1: checking a savage man. He used to let the NBA niggas, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit on names and protect them my NBA nigga.
Speaker 1: But he used to let niggas know in private quarters, nigga,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll give it to you, like nigga, don't
Speaker 1: you what you like? So that provider that he had
Speaker 1: man on the court that plays out, he was around.
Speaker 1: You were around round niggas and you lett and they're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you know I know niggas because he's the
Speaker 1: big big only Yeah. So the niggas younger in the league.
Speaker 1: And even like, you know I can give it to you.
Speaker 1: Niggas is like, Hi, no, nigga, but you don't. The
Speaker 1: biggest compliment that I could pay AI ain't even on
Speaker 1: the court. I used to be with this nigger in Philly.
Speaker 1: This nigger would be out of his mind drunk, her
Speaker 1: out of his mind drunk, and the nigga would have
Speaker 1: at least a half a million on correct not Philly.
Speaker 1: If y'all don't know, Philly is one of the grimiest,
Speaker 1: I will kill you cities in America. He'd be by
Speaker 1: hisself dripped when every piece and you read fucking watches
Speaker 1: everything and like this not even that's the biggest problem
Speaker 1: with nigga love this nigger. They would. I would be like,
Speaker 1: how are you not getting wrong number three, Philly? How
Speaker 1: are you They gonna kidnap you, nig that's the wrong.
Speaker 1: The thing is gonna kidnap you and call someone you
Speaker 1: love like we need more money. It's Philly. Niggas is
Speaker 1: and no one and I asked him. I was like,
Speaker 1: he's like, one time is not loving these niggas, and
Speaker 1: these niggas love me. It's the number three. The number
Speaker 1: three is Philly. Dog that niggas like these things can
Speaker 1: it's the number three, Lord of Niggabible. You can't touch
Speaker 1: Michael Vicker. You can't touch the Ellen, obviously you cannot.
Speaker 1: It's insane. It's time about my brother man. That's my
Speaker 1: brother man. You know who got getting that universal love
Speaker 1: right now? Ranging universal act want any hard in America
Speaker 1: right now and nigga's gonna love in any hood in
Speaker 1: America right now. I's got that love now too wrong? Crazy,
Speaker 1: come on, and you know it's not get Yeah, that's mad.
Speaker 1: That's not nigga talking about office every summer after this thing.
Speaker 1: You play me a mixtape every summer, But that nigga,
Speaker 1: it's really about that life too. Yeah yeah yeah. Do
Speaker 1: you ever see these NBA nigga's, Like you've seen one
Speaker 1: TV thing like Ronald test is fucking it's huge. If
Speaker 1: I'm twelve Streets tett Yeah, holy mooly guacamole. So yeah,
Speaker 1: quick time with Slim? Are you ready ship to get
Speaker 1: more than ready? Am I gonna? I don't got to
Speaker 1: go and I'm just yeah yeah, there'll be crazy. What
Speaker 1: does cook Time with Slime? Where done? Good? Yeah? Yeah
Speaker 1: so you've done it? Yeah yeah, So just on this one.
Speaker 1: So where is just to give you most more choice questions.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in troubles rules, I'm definitely gonna get
Speaker 1: in troubles. So h no, you're gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 1: It's a So it's basically, we gonna give you more
Speaker 1: choice if you pick both of po politically correct, you
Speaker 1: take a shot. If you say neither, you should play
Speaker 1: a new game. I got a new game for you.
Speaker 1: This is you kids to go over like that. Tell
Speaker 1: you you know what because you're doing a lot of
Speaker 1: old things on the show. Yes, West, we make of
Speaker 1: old drink. Yes, yes, so everybody should put money in
Speaker 1: the pot. Whoever got to get up and go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom first? Oh that's hard. I'm playing that game
Speaker 1: rights because that's show because I don't know, might been
Speaker 1: losing to after Ibody using heavy loves that make you go, baby,
Speaker 1: make you go, but you never know who's gonna lose.
Speaker 1: The old man tests. Yeah, but we're gonna go. What
Speaker 1: shot do you want? You want? Because you know you
Speaker 1: said we got ye the shot? What kind of what
Speaker 1: you want y'all? Do? Dude? Dude, you say you didn't? Okay,
Speaker 1: glass they got they get them when they start hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you know your fucked When they start speaking in love Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely definitely yeah, you only want to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah at that time, I don't I don't know what
Speaker 1: you better whatever. Smooth the way, by the way, I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's definitely saying. They start speaking Spanish, they
Speaker 1: stop saying spirits like, yo, what's it starts speaking spirits?
Speaker 1: Think she's kind? He want to tell don't read see
Speaker 1: late mean no no, he probably said listen, want to
Speaker 1: the right right? No, no, no, that's by the way
Speaker 1: you got Can you pull your man the shot? Because
Speaker 1: being that you did this before, can you pull him
Speaker 1: the shot? I don't shot. I'm telling the truth, tell
Speaker 1: the truth. I gotta take a shot. If you say both, okay,
Speaker 1: you ready? If you say no, If you say if,
Speaker 1: you'll say neither or both? Right, okay, are you ready?
Speaker 1: M Max or jay Z. You don't have to pull
Speaker 1: that heavy brother, you don't gotta pull that. That's a
Speaker 1: good partner, right, there's yeah, So dmx JZ gonna take
Speaker 1: a shot of that, because that's both. I would say both.
Speaker 1: I would say both to take a shot. That's the
Speaker 1: name of the game. I answered all my questions by
Speaker 1: the way. I love him though. If I had to
Speaker 1: huge one, take your shot, nigger, just take a shot
Speaker 1: X shot. And he went in that whole. It put
Speaker 1: me in the middle of these three competitive things, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, but jan would ask me the most, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think they make a better than me? Not? No, no,
Speaker 1: not not a hold on, hold, hold got it? Do
Speaker 1: you think that nig is better? And I used to
Speaker 1: be like, yo, oh yeah, it's nice old nice in
Speaker 1: different manners. That's what damn That album would have been
Speaker 1: bloom up arguments over this ship too. This is deep
Speaker 1: ship between the three Tupac or Biggie h d J
Speaker 1: Collet or DJ Drama, Kali Rockefeller or rough Rider. Take
Speaker 1: a shot, Yeah, you love Karen and Dane. Let's take
Speaker 1: a shot. To take a shot. I'm gonna take the shot.
Speaker 1: Take I don't think that shot I want. I can
Speaker 1: take the shot to that. Okay, it might be easy.
Speaker 1: I think it's going easy. My mom's going after this.
Speaker 1: I think Jada kiss or fabulous happy happy man. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm longer and now the shots is
Speaker 1: gonna it's taking. I'm gonna take a shot. You don't
Speaker 1: do shot shot immediately hit you mean you just I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what it Okay, the heroin heroin Jenny
Speaker 1: kiss a family. Yo, there's a picture out there and
Speaker 1: me and the dog before we get into the next qason,
Speaker 1: there's a picture out there and me and the dog
Speaker 1: on fucking one. If we were in hollow and when
Speaker 1: my eye and it's a fucking dope best I called
Speaker 1: him out there one time. You know, it's a picture
Speaker 1: of me and the dog that somebody has. If you
Speaker 1: see this, just fucking yo, put the picture on Instagram,
Speaker 1: send me the picture, dear me something. I need that picture.
Speaker 1: Want that picture. And then somebody has this l picture
Speaker 1: of me and this nig. Oh my god, and I
Speaker 1: recently but what I'm saying, but fairly at it's fairly yeah,
Speaker 1: we understand. Not that we're going you say for that. Okay,
Speaker 1: scar face or ice cub Face, Damn, I said that
Speaker 1: too fast, Cuban motherfuckable faces like face I love first
Speaker 1: Light of the Days, like one of the best verses ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we face he just put into picture him being
Speaker 1: on Yo. Yeah, fucking face Premo or Pete Rock Primo
Speaker 1: or pre Rock push your to your styles, Pete push
Speaker 1: you Caress or Rock Cam Rock Caim definitely which Rution
Speaker 1: is gonna get for the next vipes him him with you.
Speaker 1: They said it's nothing they can't do at that point. Okay, man, okay,
Speaker 1: this one this one's catches me all the time. Got
Speaker 1: you ready, This one catches me all the time. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna catch you n w wait
Speaker 1: or boultank clan. Oh god, this catches me all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh goddamn, that's the shot. Take a shot being a game,
Speaker 1: just motherfucker. Okay. We did so much for the East
Speaker 1: Coast too, and Risons. We were just talking about him
Speaker 1: with after, like because rizz A came to the Bobs concert.
Speaker 1: He was taking Torizon was carrying out concept you every
Speaker 1: time she came out for free Land, and now I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I don't know how he was coming. I
Speaker 1: heard that Aic was outside and I said, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: going to get I went outside personally and get damage
Speaker 1: man homies streaming. He was like, yo, okay, I was
Speaker 1: coming stars something or something. Okay, it's something. I don't
Speaker 1: know which one you want to pick on this one.
Speaker 1: Because of your loyalty Belly or Boys in the Hood,
Speaker 1: Yeah I knew that. Okay, here Marv Deep or MLP
Speaker 1: and MOBB. You had a strange kind of relationship with
Speaker 1: P right because P's book. He kind of pointed out
Speaker 1: that Cadillac toss. I don't know if y'all ever directed
Speaker 1: directly answer that was a thing about that me and
Speaker 1: P had a conversation about that. Was you who told me?
Speaker 1: You and me and had a conversation. I had a
Speaker 1: conversation with him. He said that kind of time. But
Speaker 1: you know, um just switching gears. You know, I have it.
Speaker 1: You know, talked about doing vibes. I like how you
Speaker 1: switched it possible? Now, like, let me let me tell
Speaker 1: you something that at my jomp talking to figure out
Speaker 1: how do we do that without P. You got Nooyd,
Speaker 1: you got yeah, probact his son that could come out.
Speaker 1: Who's actually spitting rhymes too? That's you know, Yeah, hologram
Speaker 1: is ill to the cause money, but that would be
Speaker 1: when it cost that much money, I couldn't get it
Speaker 1: done and get it done because my thing is that
Speaker 1: should will be ill P spitting first with fucking on
Speaker 1: staying even though it's a hologram. That's but let me
Speaker 1: just figure out that is a big idea and down
Speaker 1: down a lot. Oh my god, that that album, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's quite also money about that, that's quite
Speaker 1: through that album. That album is one of the best
Speaker 1: hip hop albums ever over you're talking to the texts
Speaker 1: wizard there. I know some dudes that can actually make
Speaker 1: that ship happen and not be so expensive. It's the
Speaker 1: way to do it. But now now we're talking up,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that. Let's do it. That's the way
Speaker 1: to do it. Okay, gets a bugg the funk out.
Speaker 1: If they see a hologram, that nigga que get the money,
Speaker 1: look nig when the holograms, it's I can only imagine
Speaker 1: what Coachella did with Pop came out. That motherfucker technology
Speaker 1: is a lot fucking more advanced. Now, come on, move
Speaker 1: real quick pop that Jermain dupri Diddy. I think it's
Speaker 1: just that quick man. Did he? Yeah he just went
Speaker 1: quick on that Missy or Bust Brown. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: explain one? Yeah? Because yeah, because did he? He was
Speaker 1: responsible for a whole coast and waving the whole like
Speaker 1: little nigga. Jad is my nigga, but he's really more.
Speaker 1: He has a lot of usher. It's his big ship.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go to skating together. Still, that's just seen
Speaker 1: them and roll the ship. Jade has a lot of
Speaker 1: other ship. But jump, he got cross Chris Cross j
Speaker 1: d I think put it to me though, who they
Speaker 1: didn't do a versus him? And did he and Germane
Speaker 1: de Bree, And that's that's a tough one. I don't
Speaker 1: know who does Gotty want a producer? Wise, I don't
Speaker 1: want no one. I don't want to do versus you
Speaker 1: want to Scott Storch and I'm different. I always use somebody.
Speaker 1: I'm not a producer on my own. It's always only
Speaker 1: in the beginning was just dj V. But it's always
Speaker 1: IRV Gotti in someone. So that's why. That's why I think, Uh,
Speaker 1: people don't give me my producer flowers. They'll give me
Speaker 1: up but he is the same thing. But you got
Speaker 1: your flowers, saw It's like you though. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people, they don't really
Speaker 1: even mentioned me as a producer, even though I'm out
Speaker 1: produced a lot of these most every one of these names.
Speaker 1: A lot of niggas produced. How you produce, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they don't say that. Niggas know that, though Drey does that.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's known and it's even accepted more
Speaker 1: that nigg is produced with niggas nowadays, like Kanye producers
Speaker 1: with a lot of people. I'm saying, a lot of
Speaker 1: games is produced with other producers coming through good old Ship,
Speaker 1: Good friendship. That's that's friendship. Beautiful statement. Next questions, Missy
Speaker 1: or bust Missy missy okay ye that yeah, Miss Cross
Speaker 1: examines miss buster. They got hits, but Missy to me
Speaker 1: has like bigger hits, timeless, bigger, bigger hits your head,
Speaker 1: get your freak on before you're gonna head put you
Speaker 1: put your hands in yours. See. I love the babe
Speaker 1: with you. That's not only was her lyrics infectious. That
Speaker 1: fucking beat was infectious. Yeah, it ain't no stud on
Speaker 1: that I'm not drinking taking a shot. Was trying to alright,
Speaker 1: this one. I don't know where you're gonna go with
Speaker 1: this one. Old b bus Markey take a shot. Oh
Speaker 1: you mother figure heavy man, because they go on, he
Speaker 1: can't do that, and you know, and they've opinion great
Speaker 1: at what they didn't do that. He was the artist
Speaker 1: who did not take rap seriously and funny, oh b whatever.
Speaker 1: So that's why I said, you motherfucker because I'm black.
Speaker 1: Was so close to what they do. They were taking
Speaker 1: serious seriously. I think I actually no ODB took it serious.
Speaker 1: Started cash that mom, that's just shot. Pick up to Jesus.
Speaker 1: Never definitely say that shot Okay, oh this is a
Speaker 1: good one. This is can't be feeding me this beauty
Speaker 1: mixed with heroin and episode y'all food that does because yeah,
Speaker 1: you real talk? This that great? It's great, It's great.
Speaker 1: I was, I was hid, but it took me to dude,
Speaker 1: let's doing its job. You after listen, listen, listen, feed
Speaker 1: him to heroine. You know, but this one, I don't
Speaker 1: know who you're gonna go with this because you're really
Speaker 1: you're really um connoisseur eighties or nineties hip hop nineties? Damn,
Speaker 1: that was too easy. Yea, that was I mean, here's
Speaker 1: my hip hop story. Okay, so hip hop started in
Speaker 1: the semi three. Oh, by the way, do you know?
Speaker 1: Next year is the fifty anniversary of hip hop, anniversary
Speaker 1: of the greatest form of music in American history, the
Speaker 1: home that has held more Niggers than I don't I
Speaker 1: can't even I love hip hop Anniversary like with so
Speaker 1: much passion, and hopefully me and BT will provide a
Speaker 1: lot of hip hop worthy content. Can I just say
Speaker 1: on that segue? Can I speak about the first movie
Speaker 1: I'm making? Okay, the first movie I'm making is Tales Presents.
Speaker 1: I want to say the Tales was like movie like,
Speaker 1: so it was easy transition. So let me tell you
Speaker 1: how God works, because this is all God, right, So
Speaker 1: let me tell you. So, I said, I want to
Speaker 1: do this movie, but I don't own a hundred percent
Speaker 1: of Tales via Calm BT and buy a Calm CVS.
Speaker 1: So I go to Bob Backash, big shout out, Bob,
Speaker 1: if you're watching this, I love you. Bob Backages the
Speaker 1: shaman and CEO of Viacom CBS. So I go to him.
Speaker 1: He's a really good friend. I love you, right, And
Speaker 1: I asked him. I said, yo, I want to branch
Speaker 1: out Tales two films. I want to make a movie
Speaker 1: now under the Viacom CBS umbrella is not just BT,
Speaker 1: mt V, b h M T. They have the Paramount network,
Speaker 1: they have Paramount Plus, they have Showtime, they have CBS right,
Speaker 1: they also have Paramount Studios. So when I asked him
Speaker 1: I wanted the use of the name Tales and things.
Speaker 1: He says, God, he do you got money to do
Speaker 1: it yourself? I was front at the time. I didn't,
Speaker 1: but I said, yeah, just go ahead and make it
Speaker 1: and I'll distribute it. Ill distribute. He gives me a
Speaker 1: distribution deal on some just love ship and you know.
Speaker 1: Later I asked him, why did you do that? He says,
Speaker 1: I didn't want you fucking with like anybody, just go
Speaker 1: ahead and make the movie. If I if I would
Speaker 1: have did the deal at paramount, he says, Now you
Speaker 1: gotta work for paramount. And there he says, I just
Speaker 1: rather you make it, get your vision, your idea off
Speaker 1: with no restraints, bring it to me. He said, Not
Speaker 1: just make it good. He said, just make it good
Speaker 1: and I'll give you. I ain't gonna say, but he's
Speaker 1: gonna give me more, way more than I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: for it. Wow, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: how taals Presents we made in America. Big shout out
Speaker 1: to Hove because I'm using women in America as the thing.
Speaker 1: And it's the story clear it. This is why I
Speaker 1: pick up some Kanye J. But this is why I
Speaker 1: love Hoove and love you too, Kanye and thing. But
Speaker 1: he was like, God, do you want to use that?
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, now, mind you, I'm gonna use it
Speaker 1: in the movie, in the television commercials, online campaign. I'm
Speaker 1: using this everywhere you take it. He gave it to
Speaker 1: me that's good. It gave it to you, gave it
Speaker 1: to you. I love you, Jay, I love you Jane.
Speaker 1: I love you to it man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that's now we all know that record in America
Speaker 1: sweet spe Jesus, I'm recking a superint that justin tip
Speaker 1: On there too, no Jesus, but y'all, So now, Jake Clear,
Speaker 1: is the record I wrote. I go to l A,
Speaker 1: I write the script and it's a monster music hip
Speaker 1: hop music movie. So I made all of the music
Speaker 1: for it before and fucking it's gonna be a group
Speaker 1: like one of the best theatrical hip hop music experiences.
Speaker 1: It's dope. How about a soundtrack soundtrack on soundtrack on
Speaker 1: soundtrack will coincide right along with it. But the crazy
Speaker 1: thing is, I'm sleeping, and you know I'm I'm very
Speaker 1: thankful to God right right now, I'm bigging up. Let's
Speaker 1: give it up. Let's give it up for God because
Speaker 1: the crazy ship nor I thought of this next idea
Speaker 1: in my sleep. That's definitely coming from God. This is
Speaker 1: what I said. I said, who else the fund can
Speaker 1: I give it to? If all my fucking really really
Speaker 1: great ideas, I swear to God, I'll be knocked out
Speaker 1: and I'll wake up and I see it all in
Speaker 1: a visual dream. So what I see most recently was
Speaker 1: I'm having I was having problems casting the lead role
Speaker 1: for Tales Presents We Made America, which has got to
Speaker 1: be a rapper slash drug dealer because the story, let's
Speaker 1: go back to the story. The story and the movie
Speaker 1: is about drug dealers who start hip hop labels and
Speaker 1: become successful. Very touchy subject. It's listen, just a celebration
Speaker 1: of what hip hop has done for us. That's what
Speaker 1: I wrote the movie, and it is dope. Most people
Speaker 1: are gonna say, that's the laundry of money that people
Speaker 1: were talking about maybe with some other guys. But n
Speaker 1: he didn't catch him. It's too late. How it's too late?
Speaker 1: My man was slinging. He says it in his rhymes.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, when my brothers told about
Speaker 1: to start a hundred G packs that you know the
Speaker 1: great story we cannot live is can I live? I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for him in dn D because he's coming home
Speaker 1: over five, coming from he's coming from getting to the
Speaker 1: bag and we're sitting there waiting for him, and he
Speaker 1: comes in and does his jay Z jay Z thing
Speaker 1: and Rice can I Live? But that's why Reasonable Doubt
Speaker 1: is so fucking raw. It's so raw because this nigger
Speaker 1: was still a drug dealer while making the album. So
Speaker 1: all that ship you hand, the crack of Roman in
Speaker 1: the room, nigga, he just finished selling fucking ninety bricks
Speaker 1: and fucking Keylo's and cocaine and now he's on his
Speaker 1: way to the studio with a bag of money. If
Speaker 1: that ain't if that ain't really in real, then what
Speaker 1: the funk is talk? And we made here's another tad.
Speaker 1: Bing was waiting for Nas old. He was waiting for
Speaker 1: Nas to get on Can I Live? They no one, no, no,
Speaker 1: no one now, But listen, we was waiting for Nas
Speaker 1: to do the second verse to show up. That's what
Speaker 1: started it because you was in the beef a lot, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it be all of that would be in the documentary.
Speaker 1: So the crazy ship, it's fucking yeah, I was in
Speaker 1: the VG. Maybe go back to naas or whatever like that.
Speaker 1: But they we're waiting for him. We can't I Live?
Speaker 1: And Nas was supposed to be on this bitch You
Speaker 1: sure it wasn't that President? No, I'm sure I was there.
Speaker 1: I was in the studio and they because that's president
Speaker 1: sample nos voice right, yes, okay, I don't even place
Speaker 1: you in that situation. Did you know he was there?
Speaker 1: Recent doubt he's been like I think do hip hop
Speaker 1: and on the album, but it's safe to say I
Speaker 1: was Jay's like Cassiglia, I was helping maneuver ship. I
Speaker 1: just totally stopped what I was doing because with blunt
Speaker 1: t V T I didn't. I was like, we can't
Speaker 1: win with these names. Steve, because I still listen to
Speaker 1: get the force, you get the fortunates, but make me
Speaker 1: go back to but Steve Godley had the ponytail. Yeah okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: hold he had and at every meeting, at every meeting,
Speaker 1: he will kick his feet shot, put his feet on. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're corroborating story. He had the police head, three headcuts, naked, naked,
Speaker 1: making feet on the temple. Told me don't do a
Speaker 1: deal with him, and I still wouldn't have the meeting
Speaker 1: wasn't people, you know, it was towards the end. What
Speaker 1: he knew, what was gonna TV. Yeah, we gotta go
Speaker 1: back to the handybody would have worked that different. Nod
Speaker 1: at all no, no, staying moving chronic. He was he
Speaker 1: could have had it roll. Yeah, that's because he had
Speaker 1: rule and Dr Dre came through and could have and
Speaker 1: the ningch nails was on their head nine chis. But
Speaker 1: before all that he had he bought all the TV
Speaker 1: TV teams. That's insane, like that was crazy and that's
Speaker 1: what he was making money. And he decided to branch out. Wow,
Speaker 1: please go back, go back? Can I live? Versus can
Speaker 1: I live? Come on? Man? Okay, but he didn't show.
Speaker 1: That's the end of the story. He didn't show. And
Speaker 1: it was funny my mantone hook original flavor favor Okay.
Speaker 1: So Jay rites the first verse. Now when you listen
Speaker 1: to the Jay for it's one of his best verses.
Speaker 1: Show Jay, can I live? First verse? I'll go cool,
Speaker 1: but we got technical Come on, you gotta set it
Speaker 1: off and help it out. It's sort of no, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's Uh. You've been switzerling for way too long.
Speaker 1: I'm too blunk. You can't give me all this fucking
Speaker 1: Hallway hats and fucking wisdom. You're gonna start believing we
Speaker 1: get you, Harold man. We're gonna stop talking. He and
Speaker 1: I liked it. I like the heroines. Oh man, I
Speaker 1: can't remember they can't and then we're gonna finish Creek time.
Speaker 1: It's not no, it's just just definitely not anything. That's
Speaker 1: the first I've been watching. Yeah, I've been watching nigga,
Speaker 1: watching closely, watching every nigga would be closely but toasted
Speaker 1: me pull that up because get you clapped close you know.
Speaker 1: He was just he was just real talk. Jay was
Speaker 1: just completely awesome and different. You gotta understand time to
Speaker 1: build rule me and rules in the studio and he's
Speaker 1: like he's looking at the So this is the first
Speaker 1: time I've seen him doron record, right, mike one of
Speaker 1: two on my Dronto album. So he's sitting there. I'm
Speaker 1: keeping trying to handle a pad, like, yo, you want
Speaker 1: to pack. But he's like if you ever seen Jay
Speaker 1: do this, He's like looks crazy. He's like this is
Speaker 1: exactly how he is. And his face is faced in
Speaker 1: the wall and he's right, and I keep going you
Speaker 1: want to write and he's like no, And then nigga,
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, already like five minutes. He did
Speaker 1: that ship fast. But he had a subject topic because
Speaker 1: that's when he what the nig next niket done. Mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like, why had this nick shing on the next
Speaker 1: because he was upset, because he was upset that I
Speaker 1: had ex closed in the record. You remember back in
Speaker 1: those days, whoever closed the record? Right? He was like,
Speaker 1: guy just so, he's like, you let him close the record?
Speaker 1: I said, uh yeah, I like his energy on it.
Speaker 1: He brings it up, hitting hell with you my for inches,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna grab me niggat someone like my bitches crunty
Speaker 1: but clothes dirty, dick, shitty and my knife bloody. I
Speaker 1: did too much dirt to turn back. Now, I'm the
Speaker 1: reason my little sister smoking crack. Now I feel guilty
Speaker 1: if I had a heart, but I don't. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: thinker was a from hell, that thigging with me because
Speaker 1: he was truly a funked up he was. He was
Speaker 1: truly a fucked up nigger who looking back there quick
Speaker 1: time a slim ain't even one fund up a little
Speaker 1: bit answering everything truthful. Okay, let's law la Miami. Well
Speaker 1: that's easy, l A. I like living in l A Miami,
Speaker 1: but let me put it just slamer. Miami is great.
Speaker 1: But I don't I wouldn't want to live here because
Speaker 1: you get popping a lot of ship in Miami and
Speaker 1: just keep it and and keep it real, to keep
Speaker 1: it real. If I lived in Miami, I'll be thinking
Speaker 1: about we made our album. We made uh last Centation,
Speaker 1: do it? We made Last Station in Miami. Listen made
Speaker 1: las Centation in Miami. We made we made Rule three
Speaker 1: three six in l A. Murder Manship Miami. You don't
Speaker 1: want to work, la. I would go to the student Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see what I'm saying. You understand what I'm saying. La.
Speaker 1: I would go to the studio. I would come home
Speaker 1: and it was like I could work in l A
Speaker 1: in Miami is too tropical. I feel like this is
Speaker 1: so beautiful that I need to suck my life off. Miami.
Speaker 1: So beautiful, you say to yourself, but you get career.
Speaker 1: Most it was small. It worked in there like okay,
Speaker 1: it was the best place. Or gang Star you motherfucker
Speaker 1: if you know no, if I have to, I told you, okay,
Speaker 1: yeah the BRONC. You're gonna pick Heroin stay back, sucking
Speaker 1: your your your fucking even Gus Jesus EPMDR Gang Star EPMG. Okay,
Speaker 1: now this one I want you to stay here just
Speaker 1: for this part your TV raps or um y'r m
Speaker 1: TV or rap City. I just want to see b
Speaker 1: t rap City. It's joining my documentary whip. Somehow I
Speaker 1: didn't my own something. That's I calculate that somehow that
Speaker 1: that's just correct. Okay, Big Pun or Big Ol, come on, man,
Speaker 1: really really they both passed away and take a shot.
Speaker 1: I'll take a show with you. You're a fucking ship.
Speaker 1: I love Big Pun and I love Big Al. Let's
Speaker 1: look where I got the right. So you do post
Speaker 1: questions that you know you got to take a shot. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's very true. Piece. This is because they let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go. It's good. But this is a producing question.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not MPC two thousand Exile or the
Speaker 1: MPC three three most school. Okay, that's old school as
Speaker 1: but my nigga chick could make that excel. He could
Speaker 1: make that bit sing like. There's certain people that I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure a large professor on the S twelve, he's
Speaker 1: the crowd for the three thousand. My nigga a little rob.
Speaker 1: When I say a wizard, this guy was a wizard
Speaker 1: with that ship and Chinck with the two thousand excel
Speaker 1: with three thousand but three. I see Primo as an
Speaker 1: SP twelve guy because he started there. And trust me,
Speaker 1: all of those rugged ass beats you could do. Me
Speaker 1: as a producer, I could tell when I could tell
Speaker 1: when a beat is made on the SP twelve hundred.
Speaker 1: It just has a certain It has that dirt, has
Speaker 1: that grid that pop loves. That's what I'm said. This,
Speaker 1: this is a real reducing That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Hip hop. Oh God, it's the SP twelve hundred. I
Speaker 1: like to say by two thousand, Nigga, I helped usher
Speaker 1: to three thousand, and that's what That's what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't like people listen, you know
Speaker 1: it's the travesy that I don't get thing because in
Speaker 1: all honesty, Nori like, as a producer, Nigga, I got busy,
Speaker 1: real listen, real busy, like I got hip hop slash
Speaker 1: music busy because you know, hip hop before then was
Speaker 1: a lot of samples, a lot of things and how
Speaker 1: to manipulated. But fucking my ship was like live instrumentation
Speaker 1: and ship like that. Because I was I was, I
Speaker 1: was blessed with having a little wrong in Chicken seven
Speaker 1: and these niggas all played christ temas slim. So we
Speaker 1: get back to he's giving great explanations and I got
Speaker 1: I got accept supposed bean supposed to Tim Timer for
Speaker 1: real O car Oh yeah, damn take a shot think
Speaker 1: lie for okay, we accept that Rolex or Paddy Roles
Speaker 1: is forever so paddocks, they kind of got it. They
Speaker 1: kind of you know what picks the paddock that rule
Speaker 1: got they stole right there. Listen, they stole from a
Speaker 1: p shout us running of France. Wha, he's the president
Speaker 1: of ap 's be all the apes when no one
Speaker 1: else can. She said. But the protect bit, the AP
Speaker 1: that watch that you got because he has an exact
Speaker 1: watch like that. Now, rules is ruses rules Watch screams
Speaker 1: fuck you, I'm living, I'm good. I see rules watch.
Speaker 1: I said, damn, you're screaming, you're streaming, you're good to you,
Speaker 1: you're good, No nor nor did you see to watch?
Speaker 1: I see said good, Damn, you're screaming. You good. If
Speaker 1: you didn't know, you know now it's not that word.
Speaker 1: Come out. Protect bit. They bait the the AP stainless
Speaker 1: still gold platinum one, the one with that type of band.
Speaker 1: They beat that. Yeah, they beat that. But ya you're
Speaker 1: going Rolex where you going tackle? Rolex Y? I'm a Rolex. Okay,
Speaker 1: roll that's okay, cool. But you know what paddick is
Speaker 1: rolling your rose gold your paddock rule is immaculated. Listen, no, listen.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of watches. This is a different
Speaker 1: level watch because it screams like what y'all don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all don't know what rules like right in to
Speaker 1: the camera, like rules are, rules are very much the
Speaker 1: right shirt, the right he puts it together, Nick, I
Speaker 1: just got this for full lock Drew. Here we go,
Speaker 1: juice in the room. Hey, you're right there to good
Speaker 1: dick sporties is I don't give a fuck, just say
Speaker 1: to your gonna be on a drink chet and from
Speaker 1: head to two. Ready, I don't even know how, but
Speaker 1: let me just explain show I'm saying with some sneakers.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the fucking sneakers are. I
Speaker 1: can't I don't know, I don't know what, but guarantee
Speaker 1: expensive I'm not me and ruse poll offics is when
Speaker 1: it comes in out, yo, disporting goods. It's nigging yo.
Speaker 1: I'm mad he got to watch that. We're saying, watch
Speaker 1: he got It is like the Illis watch. I swear
Speaker 1: to you, it's like that. I looked at it and
Speaker 1: I know I don't watching stinking got the watch in America.
Speaker 1: Yea hey, niggers, don't think you you come trying get
Speaker 1: him for that watch. I know you fucking robbing niggas,
Speaker 1: because glory robbing unless you're ready to die. I's ready
Speaker 1: to go ahead. Ny had no point. Lie, I'm dying
Speaker 1: about Ruth nigga. Good ahead, I'm dying my nigga. Hold
Speaker 1: on my nigga. Prince said the ellness slide. He said, y'all,
Speaker 1: he princes, we can say y'all. He said the elless
Speaker 1: line that I've adopted. He said, if my uncle and
Speaker 1: print was died, he said, half of me would be dead.
Speaker 1: The other half is solely devoted to vege nigga. If
Speaker 1: that ain't the most gang, I was like nigga, but Joe,
Speaker 1: I want of them. Niggas don't fun with Rule leaving.
Speaker 1: Let's leaving a lost say two lives minding yours alright,
Speaker 1: moving on, Nori, I love Rule? Is that you know?
Speaker 1: I love Rule? Podcast on radio radio. I'm a dinnasa
Speaker 1: fucking Dinna find you fucking Dinny say yeah, I just
Speaker 1: love maybe it's I came up through. I was like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: that's a fun next on drink tain got that's all
Speaker 1: I don't but you know what, I'm glad to do
Speaker 1: that one of my niggas. Let's go. Let's go, okay,
Speaker 1: B Street, B Street or Crushbroo Jesus really, yes, that's
Speaker 1: a little fun up. I can't drink. I'm already drinking
Speaker 1: still the champagne. Just niggas, Crush Russell and Nigga. You
Speaker 1: damn right, Crush Movies had the radio absolutely Yo, Letten,
Speaker 1: Let's say this a little is responsible for building the
Speaker 1: greatest rap fucking label ever, creating the Tongue no one.
Speaker 1: I don't know Tungi. He's a good guy. Tonge is
Speaker 1: probably a good guy. But I don't know Tungi. And
Speaker 1: for def Jam to have someone that er Gotti doesn't
Speaker 1: know running Depth Jam, no disrespect Tongji, but fuck you're
Speaker 1: the conviction Manten Depth Jam. Who's really the boss? Depth Jam? Is?
Speaker 1: I believe fun I'm so drunk. How do I know
Speaker 1: this guy? How do I like, come on, you know
Speaker 1: his name. I'm really drunk because this guy's name was Jesus.
Speaker 1: It's the fucking weed. You know, I don't smoke weed.
Speaker 1: It's these things have been feeding me, fucking Heroin and
Speaker 1: fucking Jeffy's. I had four, had four every time, every
Speaker 1: time come baby camp, every time I come to drink chains.
Speaker 1: They give me fucked up the most side they've ever been.
Speaker 1: These niggas is ever niggas, they ever niggas, because I'm
Speaker 1: fucked up the most I've ever been. But let me
Speaker 1: just ask before we move on, because at one point,
Speaker 1: at one point, keen tweaking the phase the greatest sampage.
Speaker 1: It's the greatest sampaign. God on your ear, fucking can't
Speaker 1: do this. God has at one points at one point
Speaker 1: that that was the industry that was beef, and the
Speaker 1: industry was saying that def Jam didn't have you. Oh,
Speaker 1: they didn't have Dame, they didn't have Darren joined the president.
Speaker 1: You know what I credit. No, he's brand new. I
Speaker 1: hope they fucking make me smelling get unfucked up. Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah it's a silver candle. Yeah, he know you and ething.
Speaker 1: This is gonna finish me. Yes, noise's I wanted to
Speaker 1: get Hey, no, look I got im. He he's smoking
Speaker 1: like it's me. He's fucking was saying, look my god, here,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't, I can't, I can't. Let you
Speaker 1: look at me. I'm gonna got turn in the round.
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't look. I'm gonna go. You gotta
Speaker 1: turn up. And at one point he was saying, I
Speaker 1: was going to run that depth game system. And now
Speaker 1: even though you say you don't know, to me, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm overwearting that. But there was a time. But man,
Speaker 1: depth shame. Y'all fucked up because y'all should have gained
Speaker 1: someone who watched Russell Simmons, who lived tim blocks for me,
Speaker 1: watched Russell Simmons have a record label called death Jam,
Speaker 1: and what inspired me to have murder rank like y'all
Speaker 1: would have got somebody who not and listen, I don't
Speaker 1: want the job now, so I know you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: this and someone them saying we should have hired got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you fucked up. You know what I'm saying. Because I
Speaker 1: love death Jam. It wouldn't have been a job to me.
Speaker 1: It would have been thinking, and I truly believe Death
Speaker 1: Jam is the best hip hop label that America has
Speaker 1: ever fucking seen. Like that was I would always say,
Speaker 1: I would always say that d MX if y'all didn't
Speaker 1: know were signed to Sony Columbia Sony first. I believe
Speaker 1: rough House. They didn't know what the funk to do
Speaker 1: with my nigga Death Jam. He knew what to do
Speaker 1: with my next my favorite regime of death. If I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: this is my favorite regime. Leo Colmbs, Kevin Les, Russell Simmons,
Speaker 1: Judie Green was Mike Kaiser, uh Sam Cresco. Hold naming
Speaker 1: he just named. If y'all don't know that you know
Speaker 1: he didn't he named whatever you know about hip hop?
Speaker 1: Understand this the names that he just named a lifers.
Speaker 1: It's a difference when like, if the pandemic would have
Speaker 1: hit during my tenure at Death Jam, he would have
Speaker 1: still been in the office. Like we used to play
Speaker 1: fucking Monopoly to two o'clock in the morning. He used
Speaker 1: to roll dice there. I just get my hair a block.
Speaker 1: I listen, not too critique or whatever, But people who
Speaker 1: work with Depth Jam say it's like they'd be calling
Speaker 1: it like Pregotti and post Gotti. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because they were like, yo, you had that much of
Speaker 1: an effect on death Cham. But I love death Cham
Speaker 1: with every fucking inch. Me. Like when I interview with
Speaker 1: Leo and got that job and then got X signed
Speaker 1: and got John sign and Jay was already signed, I
Speaker 1: was like, in career Heaven, I'm working with my brothers
Speaker 1: and working with my niggas. I signed depth. Damno, you
Speaker 1: told me what you told me, don't celebrate nigga like something. No,
Speaker 1: that sounds like exactly something I'm saying. It was that
Speaker 1: sounds like something exactly I would say. And this is
Speaker 1: one six school along and this is one sixty varion,
Speaker 1: this wants sixty back, Yes, it's want this is one
Speaker 1: s No, this isn't making a transition, is what you
Speaker 1: said to me? You said you don't have to work
Speaker 1: harder on this label. You did. People said it in
Speaker 1: an interview, and I fucking thought listen who said in
Speaker 1: the interview, And I was like, damn, he's like, don't
Speaker 1: celebrate rule said, I'm on deaf jam, right, but the
Speaker 1: cop forget the competition within the label, right, it's so intense.
Speaker 1: It's falcing you to make your best records. It's falcing
Speaker 1: Luda Chris. Think about this. Ludle Chris was selling three million,
Speaker 1: four million albums. It was kind of afterthought during this
Speaker 1: tenure with j X and John Kaso wasn't with him.
Speaker 1: Kaso was talking with us with Jay with Rough Friday.
Speaker 1: That's it causes to this day he'd be boogie. He's
Speaker 1: like these nigga's eyes. You know what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: competition like his artists, at all his artists. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say that I'm drunk. He already has Atlantic
Speaker 1: already has problems where people wouldn't leave and talking crazy.
Speaker 1: So we're not gonna add fuel to that fire. But yeah,
Speaker 1: deaf Jam, the rules tell you that. But I first
Speaker 1: heard because no rule said in an interview he was
Speaker 1: like how he was explaining how a deaf Jam he
Speaker 1: got to bring his best because it's so starved to
Speaker 1: get attention from from death Jam. You gotta understand the
Speaker 1: top three niggas is selling five, six, seven, eight nine
Speaker 1: million a clip, and you understand who you're gonna get
Speaker 1: it on a calendar you didn't get. There's only a
Speaker 1: certain amount of projects just dropping it in the in
Speaker 1: a twelve monthentt a fourth quarter nigger, So I never
Speaker 1: had problems. We was always get the fourth quarters. Tember,
Speaker 1: the big two summertime nigger. You never had a bottle
Speaker 1: of y'all. I always knew September out of the labels
Speaker 1: making all the money back catch fire. You catch that one,
Speaker 1: you get a big first week. I'm telling you why
Speaker 1: September October when you get a big first week, but
Speaker 1: then what else? You get thanks Giving bump? And then
Speaker 1: you get Christmas, Christmas, And that's why we're selling where
Speaker 1: the mother was selling. Fucking like. I like to include
Speaker 1: records sold outside the US because to me, I don't
Speaker 1: understand what's the difference to lay was making it different.
Speaker 1: You have domestic royalties and you have a cheaper lower
Speaker 1: overseas royalties, which is jerking out of everybody because that's
Speaker 1: what they're spending on overseas. There's nothing. They're taking everything, videos,
Speaker 1: the album, all the ship that they have line items
Speaker 1: for overseas. They just set it. Overseas sales is the
Speaker 1: biggest scab and fucking record label history. Holy ship. Overseas
Speaker 1: sales message labels, I mean not fuck the labels. I've
Speaker 1: never had a problem, not one of those ad guys. No,
Speaker 1: I want to be on a major because I want
Speaker 1: to sell ten million. I don't know if you could sell.
Speaker 1: You want to be on a major too, Keep that
Speaker 1: making wait but wait, but it's a difference not You
Speaker 1: guys are talking physical sales era versus no digital sales.
Speaker 1: And I was the streams and this is a different
Speaker 1: new way I'm taking. That was shot shot, That shot
Speaker 1: sat the take. Here's a shot to only one to yeah,
Speaker 1: give me one too. Here's a shot to being independent meanship.
Speaker 1: That's that's the way, the way major. Why a lot
Speaker 1: of PA, That's what I filed it all. I'm not
Speaker 1: drink him now. Like everything everything you do, it like
Speaker 1: everything I do, can't coming and it will get up. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got three more. I'm taking a pit to hold
Speaker 1: on one in there. One you don't even know we
Speaker 1: made a Balkan use his line, you're Joey. I've drunk
Speaker 1: his bot. I know when I stopped talking like this,
Speaker 1: I'm different. We already got we got three more different
Speaker 1: about great town, not more the fresh shot. This should
Speaker 1: be easy for you. I don't ways finish. I took
Speaker 1: a fresh shot. I'll magic doggy style. Jesus, that's a
Speaker 1: tough one. He got a shot that he's coasting. Care
Speaker 1: I can't take another shots. Let's take a shot of
Speaker 1: amatic queens. Get the fucking money, fucking money, get just
Speaker 1: two more. Latifa to Latifa, he like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: that's kind of sun up. You know, I don't make
Speaker 1: this man. Take us out of that. Like Latifa's family
Speaker 1: NA like myself, but she made them think like you.
Speaker 1: But I say the fun the records like family, take
Speaker 1: the shot. I love yo. I'll fucking up for my teeth.
Speaker 1: If I see my teeth. For all you with someone,
Speaker 1: I'm snuffing them. I think tep you go hold of
Speaker 1: down fail if you guys, hey winter. So if she's
Speaker 1: sucking someone up, throwing some kids in that, listen, it's
Speaker 1: only two and lifts and never quit your light light
Speaker 1: details nick family, families for what And she's like, it's
Speaker 1: a rocket man, I gotta take a shot. Take a shot.
Speaker 1: And that's a woman power this woman proble. You see
Speaker 1: all of them clips, they're the same ones that told
Speaker 1: me the silent smile because if they wanted to sell,
Speaker 1: don't take a sounding fish out the fucking this is
Speaker 1: a big shot this and this is going to commit
Speaker 1: to me, man, this is the document the murders team
Speaker 1: on the Baby teams Carrol, who's telling you come on
Speaker 1: two more? That s oh two cast? How Castle? You
Speaker 1: didn't want ever, Earl, don't drink? Can now catch us?
Speaker 1: Get out? I don't know we had someone, Yeah, right back,
Speaker 1: and I happened to ear in finding out this bit.
Speaker 1: We're going back the baby. We're going. I want the
Speaker 1: people tell you out here this sorry thing that's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, no, don't shouting, gonna say me out cast
Speaker 1: Ugi k Jesus, you keep picking. He keeps picking like
Speaker 1: out cast is fucking cool and everything right this nigga
Speaker 1: old me listen to UK Nigga, Underground Kika and fucking
Speaker 1: the Ghetto Boys Resurrection Nigga. That's all we listened to.
Speaker 1: And then reasonable doubt when Jane made it okay um
Speaker 1: so that is Ugi ko get Castle. That's both. Now
Speaker 1: I gotta tell the fucking shot, don't you do it?
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot, come into the sounna. He had
Speaker 1: me right man, got it outside. I'm doing this side
Speaker 1: and hey, I've never come outside a documentary. But Nori,
Speaker 1: we've been moved this documentary. Did no the documentary. So,
Speaker 1: but Nori, it's just so hard, this sucking say and
Speaker 1: it's rule my right, yes, yes, brother, So with Nori
Speaker 1: calls every fucking as of blood. If my body wants
Speaker 1: to say no, nor how many times you could have
Speaker 1: me and shot treat champs together, give me a little
Speaker 1: get these SnO shot hip hopping back to know you're
Speaker 1: a but you little baby, weeah And it's this one
Speaker 1: it's easy. This one's easy. The last one loyalty. You
Speaker 1: can answer that one to loyalty. That's loyalty. That's hard.
Speaker 1: It's how about you? Oh what's fact? I like, did
Speaker 1: y'all win against each other? Listen, we're not, We're not
Speaker 1: David Letterman in you propressively further back because wild um,
Speaker 1: I like loyalty. I want to say I would say
Speaker 1: respect because respect and you see this goes to you know,
Speaker 1: back to with this with the slap the whole ship,
Speaker 1: because here's what I'm saying about respect. There's no safe
Speaker 1: space for disrespect. And that's when people get it fucked up.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you can say what you want to do,
Speaker 1: what you want, but I can also react how I want,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So there's no safe space
Speaker 1: for disrespect. How many times when it was in the
Speaker 1: manhatan proper and motherfucker's telling juice and and that way
Speaker 1: the right, you know what I'm saying. So so there's
Speaker 1: aligned you crossing everything. And so I think respect is
Speaker 1: the one I'm gonna go with because you gotta guard
Speaker 1: that with everything in respect of it. And I'll you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'll fight and die another from
Speaker 1: respect my honor. You know what I'm saying. That's loyalty
Speaker 1: is coming. Go to be loyal and say, Okay, loyalty
Speaker 1: is biggest for me. It's big for me too. But
Speaker 1: people I've learned to learn to learn that people are
Speaker 1: not loyal. You know what I'm saying, People would not go.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'll be telling, motherfucker's all the time.
Speaker 1: I love my family, like my immediate family, my brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters, my mom, my dad is gone. I love
Speaker 1: them so much. I don't really need nobody, So no
Speaker 1: one could really get me off of my grind right
Speaker 1: now because I'm so in tune with life and who
Speaker 1: I am what I'm supposed to do. I'm just so
Speaker 1: in tune with that. And I could go home and
Speaker 1: chill with my mom Nini. I don't really need I
Speaker 1: don't need nothing. I'm I have a great time with
Speaker 1: need have a great fact. We need give his nile
Speaker 1: bottom of water. This Nick is talking about just loving
Speaker 1: his family and his mother. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But let me let me, let me let me because
Speaker 1: we talked about ship. But check it right, because we talked.
Speaker 1: We talked about DMX, right. And one thing that happened
Speaker 1: when DMX passed away was a lot of people went
Speaker 1: to Twitter and they went to uh I believe Instagram
Speaker 1: and started to say the accounts of what they thought
Speaker 1: that happened. And one of the people that they say
Speaker 1: they thought that happened that Russian judgment, was you right,
Speaker 1: I believe we had Swiss beats sitting in the same
Speaker 1: exact chair that just saying that. And I asked him
Speaker 1: about that as well, and I said, yo, um, what
Speaker 1: was the thing? And it was like, um, what what?
Speaker 1: What was exactly what happened there? What? What you got it?
Speaker 1: What happened is someone told me what happened, and I
Speaker 1: stupidly said it right. But you know, I don't really
Speaker 1: regret that as much as the other things that I've
Speaker 1: done stupidly because X was never a faker in front
Speaker 1: of her. So however he passed away, I think he
Speaker 1: was cool. He would have been cool with his people
Speaker 1: and fans and knowing I could be wrong, Oh good.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's real, because yeah, that's real because I love
Speaker 1: X to my core nigger ever, that's what I know.
Speaker 1: I love X to my core nigga. Let me tell,
Speaker 1: let me, let me stop, my bro. My brother is
Speaker 1: a little busy, even drinking a little bit too. I
Speaker 1: want to stop, and I want to I just want
Speaker 1: to say no because this situation, to me, it was personal.
Speaker 1: And I felt that I called got it right after
Speaker 1: the whole ship and I said, yo, Gotti said that.
Speaker 1: But what I realized in that moment is that and
Speaker 1: that what I know, you know, he was a second
Speaker 1: guess in his not at all said and I know
Speaker 1: that you like like like like trust me. I know
Speaker 1: it's so deep with us with me, and said I
Speaker 1: knew he loved X, warn he loved me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm I'm just saying, I'm just some seriously any more,
Speaker 1: for me equal. But I'm just saying. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I knew in that moment that he didn't mean what
Speaker 1: man came up with it, but I had to explain
Speaker 1: to him, like, my nigga, it came out very wrong,
Speaker 1: my nigga, Like that wasn't the way you want that
Speaker 1: to come out and right, And I'm mad, and I'm
Speaker 1: mad at the public, folks, because the public don't understand
Speaker 1: his his love defection for fact and so it hurts
Speaker 1: for me to see all of that, you know, publicly
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm like, yo, and I was, they
Speaker 1: don't understand his love for the dog, and for it
Speaker 1: to come out like that was fucked up. And I'm
Speaker 1: just glad he hasn't chance to tweeting or something like
Speaker 1: that because he manages that because he was managing X
Speaker 1: at the time. But did he tweeting and he was
Speaker 1: tweeting like like updates? Yeah yeah yeah, but I got
Speaker 1: you know again, I love X, I know the inner
Speaker 1: circle of X. I know everything with X. And I
Speaker 1: was that's what I was told. So and did you
Speaker 1: wind up going to the funeral or yeah, okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it was just sorry, it was it was just sad.
Speaker 1: It was just extremely sad day. But it was also
Speaker 1: a day that I wasn't totally mad because I know X,
Speaker 1: and X is with God and he's in heaven and
Speaker 1: no more demons is no more thing, you know. X
Speaker 1: told me. He told me like when he was a
Speaker 1: young boy, his mother put him in a reform school,
Speaker 1: which is like a jail, and left him there. Right
Speaker 1: in that place, one of his friends, who he thought
Speaker 1: was like a big great friend of his, he gave
Speaker 1: him a blunt mixed with cocaine, sort of like the
Speaker 1: Jeffrey that man he's voting up right now. But he
Speaker 1: told me he was like, yo, gotty. That's when I
Speaker 1: saw the demon And he said the demon is still here,
Speaker 1: and he was that was you understand, Like once he
Speaker 1: says that it's like a real ship and it's I know,
Speaker 1: people may laugh or maybe they think little, but he
Speaker 1: was like, hell, when I took a puff, I've seen
Speaker 1: the demon and he said, the demon has never left me.
Speaker 1: That's why I wasn't upset when I heard he passed away.
Speaker 1: I was mad because y'all gotta understand. When I've seen
Speaker 1: d m X, it was like he I loved him
Speaker 1: and he loved me. Man. You know when it really
Speaker 1: really hit honestly is when I quit Death Jam. When
Speaker 1: I quit Death Jam, X found out. So when I
Speaker 1: came into DreamWorks or somewhere no, I quit and Leo
Speaker 1: called me back and I said, he said, what's He said,
Speaker 1: what's the matter? I said, Nick, we ain't signed a
Speaker 1: d m X. That's what the fun is the matter.
Speaker 1: And that's the legendary where he drove up to to
Speaker 1: to Yanks with with with with Lee Leock Jael. That's
Speaker 1: when he got signed Leo, and Leo came out, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's that's when. So that's when he did that, and
Speaker 1: that's when next I signed. But real talk x X
Speaker 1: is like X was like a person who yours to me.
Speaker 1: He looked at actions, He looked at actions and wanted
Speaker 1: to see and feel something real. When I quit Depth
Speaker 1: Jam for me, he came back and he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you you quit your job for me? He asked me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, like the thing signing, you
Speaker 1: didn't fuck it. I don't want to be I want
Speaker 1: I don't want to be anyway. And I can tell
Speaker 1: y'all real ship from that day X was with me
Speaker 1: a hundred percent like Darren and why I used to say,
Speaker 1: with certain things you gotta gotta you collect. You don't
Speaker 1: even will tell you know. When we did get at
Speaker 1: Me Dog, Remember it was a freestyle first. You drink
Speaker 1: Champs neant to know that, right, So it was a
Speaker 1: freestyle first. So we and Chung King, which was right
Speaker 1: next door to to Death Jams one sixty was seventy barrack.
Speaker 1: So I'm in there and we're making me and Darren
Speaker 1: made the hook to get at Me Dog, and Darren
Speaker 1: was like, gott you know, you know Earl, he called
Speaker 1: him Earl, Earl Simmons. He was like, you know, Early
Speaker 1: ain't gonna want to do this, Gotti. He hates doing.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be like he did the free style first.
Speaker 1: I said, Joe, we need the first single though, we
Speaker 1: need this record in this perfect got You know, he
Speaker 1: won't say no to you, but he wouldn't say no
Speaker 1: to me because of when I quit my job. He said, Joe,
Speaker 1: he looked at me. He was in my office and
Speaker 1: he said, Yoe, you put your job for me, Like
Speaker 1: that was the first he walked in the office and
Speaker 1: someone wants have told him like yo, gott he'd like
Speaker 1: quit for you. And he came and he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you put you first question. You put your job for me.
Speaker 1: And I was in my office. I said yeah. I said,
Speaker 1: if they don't sign you, I don't want to be here.
Speaker 1: And I promise you when he's seen that, he's seen
Speaker 1: the love, he's seen the sincerity, he's seen the thing,
Speaker 1: he didn't tell me no for his career. Damn. I
Speaker 1: was like, I said, Yo, we knew exes browns. We
Speaker 1: said the first verse would be this, second verse, third verse.
Speaker 1: We had the verses everything. Because I've been with him
Speaker 1: so long. I was just like, he just do these verses.
Speaker 1: And I got the hook off of the freestyle. If
Speaker 1: you remember the freestyle, He's just get at Meg. What
Speaker 1: the damn? I said, Yo, that could you don't have
Speaker 1: me Dug? You have me Dug and Darren killed in
Speaker 1: the niggas want to be killing your niggas went to
Speaker 1: rear and he did the hook and that I was
Speaker 1: like yo. I was like yo, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, call uh whatever. Locks because they
Speaker 1: was hot, if you remember the locks was hotter than next.
Speaker 1: I was like cold. One of the locks. He said
Speaker 1: she get is the only one to do it that
Speaker 1: I could do it. Doesn't call him, she came call
Speaker 1: what they called the warlocks. Yeah, you know Walts before
Speaker 1: there was they were already the locks. At this point,
Speaker 1: did he have it was popping? Okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was like, get one of the
Speaker 1: locks and then walked background to the story is god
Speaker 1: he would have needed to do And they want to
Speaker 1: give me the love the shot to do it, but
Speaker 1: it's my brother's love. Yeah, it's it's a rough froud
Speaker 1: to record. It's cool though, it's a it's a run
Speaker 1: froud to record. Hold on. When I look back at
Speaker 1: like that, I'm happy they put up. They wanted to
Speaker 1: put on their own person. Happy who wanted to do
Speaker 1: the right she did, he said, He said, she's the
Speaker 1: only one that that's gonna come right now and do it.
Speaker 1: He was like grass feet and kids. He said that
Speaker 1: got they kind of problems right now because they was hot.
Speaker 1: He said, he said, just said it's fact. Was she
Speaker 1: I don't, but I'm just going about one of their
Speaker 1: own Now, were donna go back into some mixtape ship? Okay,
Speaker 1: I got We've talked about it both times when you
Speaker 1: guys were on I have the A debts. Don't look
Speaker 1: over it. Look over here, man, I'm drunk. It wasn't
Speaker 1: really gonna have murder incorporated. I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: seriously about that. Why because it's gonna throw J under
Speaker 1: the bus. What happened? What? What's this? What's this? He said?
Speaker 1: The murder rings? Super Why did you? I'm gonna mix
Speaker 1: tape getting these days? I got these tapes. J J
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. Jay, both times. I tried
Speaker 1: two times. The first time I didn't just say anyone
Speaker 1: talking about it. A lot of talking about Okay, cams
Speaker 1: on you talking about this someone, man, but you could
Speaker 1: say it without saying it. I don't want Jay to
Speaker 1: get mad at me. But it was the same. But
Speaker 1: it was a thing though. What burd incorporated as a
Speaker 1: god was a thing that he wanted to happen. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't the thing with J John like lace do this.
Speaker 1: It was all me And that's the actual truth. It
Speaker 1: was God's vision and dream. He wanted it to happen
Speaker 1: for the three of us, and think about it. Crazy
Speaker 1: gonna do but were told you can't. But there was
Speaker 1: mixtape joints. I got at least two joints. We got,
Speaker 1: we did joints. It was never in the studio, never
Speaker 1: the same time in the studio together, because there's something
Speaker 1: that I should have brought these This is something that
Speaker 1: I knew. They all was fucking ill. And jay I
Speaker 1: was like, these niggas is incredible, all three of them.
Speaker 1: But you know, when I look back at it playing
Speaker 1: one day morning quarterback, of course I'm happy and it
Speaker 1: went the way then because I would have always been
Speaker 1: a third win on that. You even know how fucking
Speaker 1: came in and got busy, don't I would like no, no,
Speaker 1: I would like to al I'm saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would have got busy on that album,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I wasn't established as an artist.
Speaker 1: I would like to respie hold the funk on. I
Speaker 1: would all fine, and so it would have always been
Speaker 1: looked at as you know, started your growth. You done that.
Speaker 1: I would have felt out of very I I would
Speaker 1: have exploded, but it would always been looked at as
Speaker 1: job roun de tales of ex and jobs. This this
Speaker 1: nigga can find because I get busy. There was a great.
Speaker 1: Nobody every stopped, hold on stop. It was that I
Speaker 1: had a chance to be me while they were also them.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, and that was a beautiful thing
Speaker 1: for me. So not that you fucking response, it's your time.
Speaker 1: Excuse Hayes, excuse every wonder for this, for his logics,
Speaker 1: everyone isn't justified. For the first time I tried it,
Speaker 1: John wasn't as biggest EXJ. You're right. The second time
Speaker 1: he's trying time like trying. He was outstting them, he
Speaker 1: was out setting them. People say, Yo, it was fucking
Speaker 1: you know your excuse at that point. Haze is always
Speaker 1: all in. Even in the begin the year, though, I
Speaker 1: would have know. I knew that that ship would have
Speaker 1: been my fucking ben smart brother st I was feeling
Speaker 1: fuck that I'm gissing you guys, I'm gonna this morning one.
Speaker 1: He's talking about growing fun, so I didn't even fun.
Speaker 1: My object was to brow the funk up and be
Speaker 1: the biggest artists instable all this time, reasoning all this
Speaker 1: epic glory, all of this epic what we're talking about
Speaker 1: has fuel. White Job is a fucking legend. Makes a
Speaker 1: little bit there wander ship like saying all of this
Speaker 1: fucking neglact, all of this bullshit, all of this. You
Speaker 1: know what, you know what used to he used to
Speaker 1: say to me is screw ain't at me. You don't
Speaker 1: know what he's screamed at me. They're not your fucking brothers, Gotti.
Speaker 1: That's that's real streaming fucking brothers gotty. I am paying
Speaker 1: his love intro Why you want to stop Chief from
Speaker 1: menturprising crowd? After your line, you ain't got to talk
Speaker 1: about all that? Know you know what'll listen really strong
Speaker 1: and it tells my brother. The realist ship, the realist
Speaker 1: ship is that night that we had that comment, that
Speaker 1: that argument I made winning doubt you could counting your nigger.
Speaker 1: That's the record. I'm moving for you because I want
Speaker 1: to let you know. You know what I'm saying, they
Speaker 1: can winning down you come on. That makes it look
Speaker 1: that So this is why this is the love. Y'all
Speaker 1: like getting the glimpse of why this ship is like this.
Speaker 1: That's why I say. I just say when we U
Speaker 1: was driving beat everyone had two guns. It was crazy, right,
Speaker 1: Who's I just tell and interviews? Leave you alone? Leave
Speaker 1: him alone, please, because if you fucking touching my sweater. God,
Speaker 1: I'm killing you Nicka. Sorry bet youn't know you sun me,
Speaker 1: but that's just real. But Yo, you want to Yo?
Speaker 1: When I be looking at when Big Guy, I'd be
Speaker 1: so like confused and upset. Even when Pop died. Why
Speaker 1: sig why would you let this nigga stop to stick
Speaker 1: out yo? Knowing that the stick is really niggah, Like
Speaker 1: why can't we have my two legends here? I would
Speaker 1: love to see what the world would look like a
Speaker 1: biggian Pop was still alive, Like I really think about this,
Speaker 1: don't and it gets me physically like upset, and I'd
Speaker 1: be like damn man, Like damn, why would you let
Speaker 1: this nigga stick is Tupac and this stick is That's
Speaker 1: why when I'll be said, like, Yo, Tupac, this thing
Speaker 1: was the realist fucking nigga alive. He wasn't just rap
Speaker 1: he was would know he was the realist nigga alive.
Speaker 1: This nigga blast of that undercup of copsition because that
Speaker 1: was for somebody up another black man. Don't ever compare.
Speaker 1: You ain't too nigga stop, You ain't fucking none of
Speaker 1: you niggas just doing that ship y'all pulled out, pulled
Speaker 1: the thing and blasted at them niggas because they was
Speaker 1: fucking with the nigga Jesus Christ sticking. It's like and
Speaker 1: then Pain is one of the ship. What's that Nigga
Speaker 1: Lamart Hill, he's for works for bt Lamont Hill. Nigga
Speaker 1: I recited the whole third verse to Pain and from
Speaker 1: the Lamar Hill because he said and kind of like
Speaker 1: downplay the disrespected to nigga Pope. I've seen that nigger.
Speaker 1: I was like, like Nigga nykt like better to get
Speaker 1: my slug on that my clippings, motherfucking gloves on. I
Speaker 1: ain't skint the blast on these niggas. If they test me,
Speaker 1: trust I got my glock cock prayer player. If they
Speaker 1: pressed me, busts on mother bumpa fucker's with a bash.
Speaker 1: Better ducks. I ain't looking when the blast. I'm a nothing,
Speaker 1: drinking him to see and getting high on the lookout
Speaker 1: for my enemies. Don't want to die? Tell me why
Speaker 1: because it's stress getting made a book before the face
Speaker 1: with the razor. What can I do or be? What
Speaker 1: can I do but be a dog and till him
Speaker 1: dead and gone? Can I do for be a dog
Speaker 1: and kill I'm dead and gone. I screamed that ship
Speaker 1: in Lamar Hill's face. He was like, yo. They kept
Speaker 1: trying to stop him in verse something like this out
Speaker 1: there and kept fitting it in his face. And he
Speaker 1: was like, I understand, they don't. Don't just respect Pop
Speaker 1: me not Pop. Think about his life. He lived what
Speaker 1: he was saying. He lived exactly what the funk he was?
Speaker 1: What can I do? Be a dog and tell him
Speaker 1: dead and gone? He died in some gag banging ship,
Speaker 1: nigga crazy? What can I do but be a dog
Speaker 1: and till I'm getting debt and gold, keep my brain
Speaker 1: on the game and say headstrong, He's sorry. Bastards want
Speaker 1: to kill me in my sleep? How only can it be? Said?
Speaker 1: He dugging, said he dugging on the street, said he
Speaker 1: busted on the street, And I'll be bawling low. Don't
Speaker 1: let the bitches worry drinking tea, keep thinking bury. I
Speaker 1: was born to raise hell the nigga from the Gutta
Speaker 1: where the mother. I'm touched. I'm kicking dust up, ready
Speaker 1: to bust someone to see, said he mugging me until
Speaker 1: they kill me. I'll be living this fucking life. Do
Speaker 1: you fail me? Nig You got to feel that new
Speaker 1: man totally off subject, totally off, it's different. We gotta
Speaker 1: totally subject. We can't do it being dug and till
Speaker 1: I'm dead and gone'll be best. Just want to kill
Speaker 1: me in my sleep. So let me ask you, because
Speaker 1: at point you and Mike Geronimo did kind of seem
Speaker 1: like y'all was gonna be the new Diddy. We're back
Speaker 1: on Mike geronatle because we hear watch this. Here's an
Speaker 1: answer for you that nigga. Come on, I'm drunk, but
Speaker 1: it's really weird and you feel nigga. Fuck you, nigga.
Speaker 1: You thought I wasn't the one who guess what, I'm
Speaker 1: the one, nigga. I'm on the fucking one. You're doing
Speaker 1: all the Pete Vocking in Large Professor and Shot Lodge
Speaker 1: Professor because I learned how to make beasts from Large
Speaker 1: Professor and in Premiere and and it was. But you
Speaker 1: thought that was the one. Nigga. I'm the one, Nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the mother fucking hits Nigga that you're
Speaker 1: gonna remember forever. You don't remember forever, yo, yo yo.
Speaker 1: You know hold on, what happened? I ain't gonna nain't
Speaker 1: no names right minds. Turn the norriy candle around. Look
Speaker 1: at you. I can't. He looks like he's savings, like
Speaker 1: he's gonna saved. But listen, listen, motherfucking what the fun
Speaker 1: did you? Mike Geranomo, Mike Geronimo and he ran all
Speaker 1: of these and I'm like, this ship is so crazy
Speaker 1: and I understood, Like, no, I don't understand because I
Speaker 1: made she real that was I made okay job And
Speaker 1: don't understand. Let's playing you, Godi. You wouldn't. I'm not
Speaker 1: taking up from Mike. I'm not taking up from So
Speaker 1: why didn't you move like that? Don't make no that
Speaker 1: you That's what it is trying to explain. That's what
Speaker 1: it is, says you don't understanding. What's trying to hold on?
Speaker 1: Let me plan it to you, let me splin it
Speaker 1: to you. The reason why is because Gotty, you were
Speaker 1: a new producer at the time, and you and you
Speaker 1: brought him to where he was at that moment. But
Speaker 1: he was from that area and those dudes were bigger
Speaker 1: name producers at the time that he wanted to work with.
Speaker 1: That's it I don't by so when I say this
Speaker 1: ship and I gotta memory, memory like an elephant, nigga,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't forget shit. Shit. You can pull
Speaker 1: up the fucking Houston Rockets and Golden State Warrior's game
Speaker 1: that we was there, and you'll see Contino Cotino on
Speaker 1: the line and going like this. You may not see
Speaker 1: me because the camera ain't going. It wasn't to the benches, No,
Speaker 1: we understand. You understand like it was across the bitch.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna see the back of my hand, and
Speaker 1: it ain't Nicolson's. Nicolson's you see what I'm saying, Chasey's
Speaker 1: you see us, you know what I'm saying this, You'll
Speaker 1: see the back of my head. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But if you pull up the tape, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: Patino going like this at the line. He was shaking
Speaker 1: his head because I'm screaming to nigga, the lie is eight.
Speaker 1: We need both, Nigga, I got one seventy five on
Speaker 1: this bitch, and this niggle was like the stick. The
Speaker 1: rest was laughing at me. Everyone knew it, but you
Speaker 1: know who else knew? Fucking gilber and read it and
Speaker 1: they said I'm anna fuck niggai and John was giving
Speaker 1: it to the stick of the whole game. John, he
Speaker 1: gotta one secon five was like twenty five thousand. I
Speaker 1: had like fifty thousand. My brother had like twenty five thousand,
Speaker 1: but it was one seventy five. Told you're gonna to
Speaker 1: tell you another thing too. One time job was from
Speaker 1: my video. I did a record, but you you guys
Speaker 1: charged me at the asshole. I did a record with y'all.
Speaker 1: It definitely charged me, definitely, just took half of the
Speaker 1: button story. You didn't even put out the video. You definitely, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't charge him that. I was like, seventy five, Yes,
Speaker 1: I didn't charge you. Man. I was like what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what I'm saying. At the time, you're
Speaker 1: charging motherfucker's street hunted two fifties, Like, y'all, you me
Speaker 1: a favor, this caount go two fifties long at this
Speaker 1: seventy five? Right, but check it so we filled in
Speaker 1: the video. If you're in the video, Lennox Lewis comes
Speaker 1: to the set, Joh does the same as Hanmer goes
Speaker 1: up the lex Lewis and goes Tyson, go fuck you up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, we were this, we was
Speaker 1: we was Tyson, We love I wanted lys at my
Speaker 1: video We love Mike Tyson. We don't told you got this.
Speaker 1: You don't just fun it from the UK. You don't
Speaker 1: in the video they said, you chuckle Gilbert to read
Speaker 1: this into into it on the video with me and you,
Speaker 1: Melis came about and you told him you said you
Speaker 1: want okay, Yeah, together we were to get on TV kid.
Speaker 1: Everyone that doesn't know when I looked this way, it's
Speaker 1: four women that's with BT that knows him about it,
Speaker 1: that doesn't about to get funked up because sucking nor right.
Speaker 1: And I told him when they had the sidebar with
Speaker 1: me about silencing young uncle, I told them I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be fun, to which they said you need to get
Speaker 1: a shot at him, to which they said, okay. They
Speaker 1: fucking said they knew I was gonna get fucked up.
Speaker 1: They said, listen, when you look at us, can we
Speaker 1: go as it work? Doesn't work? Yes? Yes, And there's
Speaker 1: certain things. There's certain things that I was gonna talk
Speaker 1: about them. I see Tshi give me the sipping and
Speaker 1: I fucking sipped it. So getting getting back to the documentary.
Speaker 1: We we, like we said earlier, we established that we've
Speaker 1: seen the rough Rider one and we've seen the No
Speaker 1: Limit one. How does and you've got Tales going already,
Speaker 1: So how does it tells? Season three for my Tales
Speaker 1: people is coming on right after the documentary? The documentary.
Speaker 1: The document is what we call in the business, the
Speaker 1: lead end. Okay, so how do how do they approach
Speaker 1: the feature? How the feature? Because I want to say,
Speaker 1: want to end it? What you you don't know that yet? Okay,
Speaker 1: we're seeing real time, real time. Tasha is like, we
Speaker 1: don't know, and I'm like, fucking I gave you that info.
Speaker 1: But this is a little thing going on. This was revealed.
Speaker 1: Oh he just swissed glasses and he's a fashion guy.
Speaker 1: He's a fashion guy. You don't understand. You don't understand.
Speaker 1: I told you, naughty. How does your apparently sparting good
Speaker 1: pick that fucking get that this will be my great
Speaker 1: champ T shirt? And but how do how does because
Speaker 1: you already have a great relationship with BT with Tales
Speaker 1: I love, how did they how do they approach you
Speaker 1: about the documentary and the documentary? In all damn I
Speaker 1: don't want to say this, but I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 1: real because I just keep real. Right. So they called me.
Speaker 1: They called me, That's how they called me. After Rough
Speaker 1: Frider Is in No Limit did astronomical ratings for BT.
Speaker 1: Great documentaries by the way, great. I love those right,
Speaker 1: So they called me, got even gotta have the Murdering Dot.
Speaker 1: It's a huge dock, so they first thing I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I went live nation in my nigga Michael Rupino, could
Speaker 1: you get it from them? And and and great to
Speaker 1: bet Now, BAT gave me my first look with tales. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: I mean blouse, that's not how they sounded. Listen. Let
Speaker 1: me let me blow BET for one second, Stephen Helen.
Speaker 1: BT gave me my first opportunity. They gave me a
Speaker 1: chance to do tales. BT will always always be with me.
Speaker 1: I forever loved them. They really can't do nothing to
Speaker 1: make me stop loving them because they gave me this opportunity. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's one on account all BT. I'm cool with that
Speaker 1: because I love those motherfucker's. They gave me the ability
Speaker 1: to do what I'm doing, and you know, full full
Speaker 1: like five degrees of separation. Nothing happens for me. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you the time of my life I was
Speaker 1: in at that point, no one was sucking for anything.
Speaker 1: I would have great. I would be like, you would
Speaker 1: leave me, you know when you killed me. You're like, man,
Speaker 1: I killed that. This is gonna be good. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. And nobody fused with me. Why because I
Speaker 1: had that dark cloud over my head for the Feds
Speaker 1: in that whole indictment and doing super ugly and doing
Speaker 1: super ugly. So now Stephen Hill, I pitched him tales, Yo,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take great hip hop Breacords and through the
Speaker 1: inspiration that will make one to two hour films. I
Speaker 1: fucking love it. He gives me to deal yo and
Speaker 1: jay Z's executive producer as well. Right, let me let
Speaker 1: me explain. Let me this also might have got fired
Speaker 1: in a minute. I didn't know it took a twist
Speaker 1: like that. It's a twist. It's when. So now he
Speaker 1: does Tales, but he only signs me to a backdoor pilot.
Speaker 1: Backdoor pilot for everybody means he's not committing to ten
Speaker 1: episodes or eight episodes, committing to one episode if the
Speaker 1: ratings as well, will do more episodes, which is like
Speaker 1: a white label. It's exactly for music is translation. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now I say, damn, I only got one episode.
Speaker 1: I need I need Hove. Hove is starting title. I
Speaker 1: know Hove once content for title that's exclusive you on title.
Speaker 1: I call Hove, Yo, I'll give you the second window
Speaker 1: of tails. So like after a week or whatever, BT
Speaker 1: chooses thing and just give me a little a fraction
Speaker 1: of the money. And BT is playing a clean version
Speaker 1: for lack of edator corrections. I made a clean and
Speaker 1: dirty like a record. So once he does that. Now
Speaker 1: when in the office me, Jay Z, Stephen Hill, Darryl Walker,
Speaker 1: Chris McCormick, Chris brad Go of Indomar Shine, we're in
Speaker 1: the office together, and let me tell you just Jay
Speaker 1: walking in the office had everyone like giddy and ship.
Speaker 1: If you ever want to close this deal, try if
Speaker 1: Jay just get j Yo. When Jay walks in Yo
Speaker 1: that but he is my disclame of how good Jay is?
Speaker 1: You want to close the deal? If Jay's in the
Speaker 1: room to answers, yes, so I get JA. I say, yo,
Speaker 1: you want this title, just start and you get the content.
Speaker 1: You get it a week to two or three weeks
Speaker 1: after it comes out and be good a title. Yo,
Speaker 1: that's dope. So in that meeting Stephen Hill, Jay, what
Speaker 1: do you want to do? Like it was all about Jay?
Speaker 1: He said, Jay, what do you want to do? What
Speaker 1: do you want to do with this? You know what's
Speaker 1: what's going on? They happy to be in a room
Speaker 1: with Jay. Jay says, when Gotti is in his creative
Speaker 1: ship like this, what we all need to do is
Speaker 1: give him whatever he needs and get the funk out
Speaker 1: of his way. It's the best alley in the history
Speaker 1: of So, Jay says this. Stephen, Stephen Hill, and Daryl
Speaker 1: Walker turned to me, So, God, what do you want
Speaker 1: to do? I said, Yo, we just got one episode.
Speaker 1: Daryl Walker. Daryl Walker? He rr I pen d Miller. No,
Speaker 1: Daryl Miller is my attorney. In my attorney. He's every
Speaker 1: black person's attorney. I didn't know that. Yeah, every if
Speaker 1: you're a nigger in the entertainment business, Daryl Waver, everyone else. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So you know when I do this and I'm talking
Speaker 1: to what the fuck what I'm talking about about? That Walker? Y'all? Okay,
Speaker 1: Steve Right, I said, Yo, we only got one episode.
Speaker 1: They was like okay, and they basically changed the backdoor
Speaker 1: pilot to a full fledged episode deal. But I won
Speaker 1: the first season of Tales. That's that explained. I just
Speaker 1: gave you the reason why you got the big Omi
Speaker 1: in there. In all honesty, they made a mistake, beautiful.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people ain't making it. I think, God, like,
Speaker 1: here's another thing that I want to get to the audience.
Speaker 1: I gave my female a thing about bitches and everything
Speaker 1: like that. Hopingly you keep it and they see it right.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing with me is I'm like
Speaker 1: ridiculously spiritual. And you know it's crazy because the trial,
Speaker 1: my federal indictment brought me closer to God. But that's
Speaker 1: a documentary in itself too. Yes, it is because when
Speaker 1: I was going to trial, I would I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: I didn't wanna asked God to save me because I
Speaker 1: thought that would be a bitch ass nigger nigga. I
Speaker 1: ain't been talking, you know, I'm like, saved me, Please,
Speaker 1: God saved me. So I didn't do that. Instead, every
Speaker 1: day I listened to Mary J. Blige in my life,
Speaker 1: and it brought me to tears every time when she
Speaker 1: goes to part of and I know that things will
Speaker 1: turn out right. Yes they would, Yes they would. I'll
Speaker 1: cry if you play that record right now. It's a
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry on that part. And like like when
Speaker 1: I went when I see Mary for the first time,
Speaker 1: I dropped to my knees and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're my queen forever forever. And I asked that, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: who fucking wrote my life? She said I did, And
Speaker 1: I was like, damn you just they don't know. There'll
Speaker 1: never be anybody over married Jus because when you listen
Speaker 1: to my life, it's a spiritual record. She's talking about God.
Speaker 1: She's talking about believing in God, and if you believing
Speaker 1: God would like so Mary the ultimate for me. She'd
Speaker 1: been the ultimate, she was ultimate for me before that.
Speaker 1: But when I found out she wrote that record, Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ like, I was like, I just looked at it
Speaker 1: and dropped to my new knees and bowed my head
Speaker 1: like she's my queen for real. I love fucking Mary
Speaker 1: j Black. I fucking nig up over Mary j bicking
Speaker 1: a lot of thigs up today. I ain't ain't no,
Speaker 1: I ain't top physical fit, but ya listen, I'm letting
Speaker 1: you know. I'm going maybe the one another, but I'm
Speaker 1: cooling with But you committed. You committed. You're not talking
Speaker 1: with wood fucking Pream like like yo previously you got
Speaker 1: him for protection. I said, nig say some crazy shit
Speaker 1: about Pream in front of me. I'm sucking them up.
Speaker 1: I said, Its the same mother fucking way, Chris Black.
Speaker 1: You want to say nothing before you get up out
Speaker 1: of here. Let's get it. Hey, you do this ticket like, no,
Speaker 1: didn't do you see this ticket classes? This class is
Speaker 1: probably like five calling you. That's step up, like stop face.
Speaker 1: I never lied, even when I lie, Well, I don't lie.
Speaker 1: Think I don't anybody. I can't never. I'm not definitely
Speaker 1: using to put the promo the other shing I said it.
Speaker 1: I never lied this claimer his thoughts is this to
Speaker 1: use in the views expressed by you got it? It's
Speaker 1: basically sold serious show and John about by the way.
Speaker 1: I love Switch. I swear to God, this is something
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I always in the most I've ever like.
Speaker 1: I don't even really feel like this. No me, I
Speaker 1: don't go out. It's beennybody by like nine in the
Speaker 1: clocks to betnybody shut out. Bye bye. I think I
Speaker 1: say I'm up earely working. I think I'm striking that
Speaker 1: you take another shot. I'm gonna keep it real. Let's
Speaker 1: actually look. You gotta look at it and let me
Speaker 1: look at him. You gotta drinking shot, okay, saying I'll
Speaker 1: do another ship not all h Honestly, man, when you
Speaker 1: and y'all did what y'all did with murder in't you
Speaker 1: know it's gotta be. I want to really give y'all
Speaker 1: your flowers, really salute y'all to your face. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm used to come up with a murder inc um
Speaker 1: and you have to drink Riby Martin. And I just
Speaker 1: was like, man, you guys gotta start calming down. And
Speaker 1: I started bringing Peenot Guigio to y'all. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, introduced us. I'm not giving you the first
Speaker 1: the first time I've seen Peenot guise when I was
Speaker 1: keeping it with more you're talking. You know she was
Speaker 1: a peno gran carry two us on film. It's supposed
Speaker 1: throw that out there, But let me just see something
Speaker 1: y'all keeping y'all up because what y'all did, Like I said,
Speaker 1: just be going through your discography me really understanding, like
Speaker 1: you know that the hints that y'all it's the classic albums,
Speaker 1: the hardest that y'all you do and all that, and
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting back and I want to really give
Speaker 1: your guys that flowers literally and uhgulally and fucking you know,
Speaker 1: see your face, because y'all really remarkable people. You did crazy, crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy things and you have to be siblutely for you
Speaker 1: got my flower. Yes, sir, yes, thanks for joining us
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