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Speaker 3: We are here at the SWVC podcast studios at the

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Speaker 3: Star Frisco quarters of the Dallas Cowboys Cowboys. Maharrison here

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Speaker 3: in the house, and I am New.

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Speaker 2: He scrugs. All right, we have the news.

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Speaker 3: What's popping. Doc Prescott is going to have hamstring surgery.

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Speaker 3: His season is going to be open.

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Speaker 2: I hate to see it. I hate to see it.

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Speaker 2: So no, DAK number four is done. He's afore the season.

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Speaker 2: This is why you signed those long term deals, my friends.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, one hundred percent. Get your money while

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Speaker 2: you can. Man, never pass up a dime either. I

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Speaker 2: don't go. Nobody tells you, yeah, you're making all this

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Speaker 2: money off the field. Take a little. No discounts, man,

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Speaker 2: none at all.

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Speaker 4: You gotta get all your money's while you can. The

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Speaker 4: NFL stands for not for long. So get your bread man,

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Speaker 4: and he got two thirty one guaranteed. I think that's

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Speaker 4: something ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Arty, get it all more than Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah like that, Like I agent.

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Speaker 3: I don't need a million more, sir, Yeah, hey got

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Speaker 3: them tell me these agents. These agents are always trying

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Speaker 3: to make sure they look good because if you don't,

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Speaker 3: okay that it gets.

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Speaker 2: Used against you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I need one million more than him, and with all

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Speaker 3: due respect, he's definitely worth a million more than de Sean.

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Speaker 2: Watching man, You seen that guy playing man?

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Speaker 4: Oh all right, j Bo Whiston coming out there looking

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Speaker 4: better man, it's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, all right thoughts now, I mean it just

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Speaker 6: sucks to see a season in like that.

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Speaker 2: It really does.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to see obviously, with the struggles that

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Speaker 6: he was having, the team was having, offense was having

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Speaker 6: before the connection between him and Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 2: It just didn't want to see him go out like that. Obviously.

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Speaker 6: When you talk about from a player, you're talking about

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Speaker 6: from security standpoint. There are guys out here that are

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Speaker 6: on one year deals that if they get injured, that

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Speaker 6: there's a gray area on what they're gonna do next,

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Speaker 6: you know. And I still am one of those people

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Speaker 6: when I think about Dak in the season and how

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Speaker 6: it obviously transpired with him signing the deal, I felt

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Speaker 6: like Dak would have been good no matter what, just

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Speaker 6: because of how the quarterback market is right now. Everybody

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Speaker 6: would have been able to look at this team and

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Speaker 6: go that just the offensive line, that just wouldn't have

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Speaker 6: been it. But you still know what's in the tank

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Speaker 6: for Dak. Me for me, man, I want to see

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Speaker 6: the next version of Dak. I want to see Dak

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Speaker 6: come back, and this is gonna be crazy. Coming back

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Speaker 6: from a hamstring injury, a lot more mobile, a guy

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Speaker 6: that can extend plays with his legs. He's gonna need that.

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Speaker 6: He's going to need to have that. The NFL is

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Speaker 6: going in that direction. You're gonna have to be able

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Speaker 6: to move the pocket. Those are some of the things

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Speaker 6: I think as the season went on, you was just like,

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Speaker 6: come on, Dak, you can run for three You could

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Speaker 6: do this or move the pocket if the offensive line

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Speaker 6: is struggling. He was already We came into the season

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Speaker 6: knowing that he needed to make those short area throws,

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Speaker 6: a close proximity throws, man, throwing guys open, you know,

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Speaker 6: being able to have touched on the ball. I know,

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Speaker 6: guys going to the offseason, they go and they work

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Speaker 6: Get in that camp, man, start working like that because

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Speaker 6: as guys age, as you've seen guy's age, they bring

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Speaker 6: things like that. Dak just needs to get better at that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's been in the league for a very

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Speaker 6: right and there's still things that this offense is gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that one.

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Speaker 4: Using the legs, you know, being able to throw into

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Speaker 2: So for me, you know, I just want that to

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Speaker 4: Know, back to making better decisions with the football. You know,

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Speaker 4: So I want him to get back to that taking

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Speaker 4: once again, that comes along with having better offensive line,

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Speaker 2: But for me, you know, this season, man.

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Speaker 4: It's ear really, ear really similar to that twenty fifteen

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Speaker 4: It was tough man, going from Castle to Kellen Moore

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Speaker 2: Wheaton was in there. We started before Castle. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: We thought we had a shot and you know, literally

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Speaker 2: But you know, it made it extremely tough because.

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Speaker 4: Because we knew we had the squad, you know, we

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Speaker 4: We just didn't have that guy at the helm to

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Speaker 4: this is where your leaders. You gotta step up.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: You gotta make sure that you know, you keep everybody

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Speaker 4: I just don't want to see this team fall, you know, shambles.

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Speaker 4: You know, get the leaders in there, make sure everybody's

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Speaker 4: and it reminds me of twenty fifteen. Man, that was

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Speaker 3: So gentlemen, I'll pushback on what you said just this way.

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Speaker 3: You've talked about the offense, but who knows what offense

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Speaker 3: they'll be running next year and who'll be the offensive

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Speaker 3: we don't know.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, so hey, but I tell you what,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they have.

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Speaker 6: The front office has some idea and they obviously whoever

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Speaker 6: Dak is.

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Speaker 2: That's this is the future. This is the guy that

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Speaker 2: they was it two hundred and thirty one man one guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's already on the books. He's it.

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Speaker 6: He's it, no matter what you say, no matter what

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Speaker 2: Not gonna work either. You like to think that, Oh

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Speaker 2: absolutely I would.

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Speaker 3: But at one point in time, Jerry hired Chan Gaily,

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Speaker 2: Probably should have just had should have done with Troy

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Speaker 3: So so you say that, but you know what the

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Speaker 3: coaches made. These coaches get.

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Speaker 6: They getting their own way a lot, no matter what

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Speaker 6: they do, no matter how they handle it. This next

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Speaker 6: You're gonna have to be able to hand that ball

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Speaker 6: have zero confidence in their running back room.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear Jerry today? Oh no, what my man's

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Speaker 2: talking about? Jerry confidence and Zeke Elliott. You gotta be kidding.

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Speaker 4: Waight away, Well, like like going forward for the rest

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Speaker 3: Like he's going to be the league guy making me

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Speaker 2: Been about, you know, averaging a half a yard, that's what.

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Speaker 6: That's what. Don't rock the boat. Don't rock the boat, baby,

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Speaker 6: don't rock the boat.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Jones, one of five three. The fan said he

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Speaker 3: You're Elliott quote. We're not living in the past with

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, I get it. We're not living in the

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Speaker 6: He ain't what he used to be. We don't live

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Speaker 6: there no more. We're going forward with the baddest man

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Speaker 2: He was twenty sixteen. Well, it's back in the game.

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Speaker 2: But what is he giving you your team this year?

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Speaker 4: Like what is he giving to you know, have faith

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Speaker 4: that he can be you know, some sort of you know,

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Speaker 4: Goal line back, he ain't it receiving all the backfield

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Speaker 4: that's not doing it.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't play specialty. You don't want to give guys

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Speaker 4: Man, maybe you know, if he comes out here and

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Speaker 6: My question is a lot of times, man, these things

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Speaker 6: because at this point there's no harm in getting a

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Speaker 6: look at those young guys I have. I have no

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Speaker 6: problem with saying, let's see what he has. Let's give him,

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Speaker 6: you know, five to six plays that we know that

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Speaker 6: looking just going back to just going back to Sunday,

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Speaker 6: that fumble down on the goal line was critical. Itok,

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Speaker 6: at a critical point of the game. We talk about

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Speaker 6: the competitive phase of the game. Those that's when we

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Speaker 3: Man Jerry Jones said, don't be surprised if Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 6: Riding him for the rest of the season. Seven eight

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Speaker 6: You don't have a running game. You're gonna ask him

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Speaker 2: Like, if we win, we already knew you.

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Speaker 6: Gotta go quick game because you know the pressure they go,

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Speaker 6: So so like you see that connection between Dak and

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Speaker 2: Know, who are his guys? I mean, is that is

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying if we were talking about CD, CD

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Speaker 3: So what I was told yesterday, I was there for

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Speaker 3: terms of you need to put off what can he do?

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Speaker 2: Can he get any better?

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Speaker 3: Put it all out there, and then you've got your

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Speaker 3: Can't can he get anybody? Is there any hope? And

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Speaker 4: And don't get that from from a front office standpoint,

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Speaker 4: like you said on those one years, those guys that

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Speaker 2: What they're doing now, I mean, that was what it was.

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Speaker 3: Every game they every home game they played to be

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Speaker 4: But if you if you, if you Ferguson and you're like, man,

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Speaker 4: look I gotta start balling you.

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Speaker 2: I gotta have it. I gotta have some guys like

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Speaker 2: That's true, go get something. He he looking at that trade,

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Speaker 4: Dude ain't gonna give me no He's gonna go through

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Speaker 2: You were in this position for a reason. You was

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Speaker 3: Monday night, Chris Beam, producer, Chris, is it the Governor's cup?

440
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Speaker 2: Is that on the line for this one? Here? Do

441
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: we know governors? Yeah, there's some kind of trophy man,

442
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, man, you think we hand out

443
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 2: that trophy anymore? Yeah? I said, I played again. We

444
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: ain't get no trop trophy. That that's probably when the oilers. No, no,

445
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 2: it was the Texans because it was McNair and all that.

446
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 7: Man.

447
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 8: Okay, we must have got lost lost.

448
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, all right. So Michael Parsons.

449
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: Still reeling from Sunday's comments that he basically said he

450
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: what wasn't really worried about he coach Mike McCarthy felt

451
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: bad more so for veterans like Zach Martin is like,

452
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: you know, Zack Martin's done more than Jerry Jones. And

453
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: so got played up a lot. Man, He got beat

454
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 3: up pretty good nationally. And he went on his podcast

455
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 3: and he went and said, you know, I did not

456
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 3: mean that at all. It was taken out of context

457
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: what he tried to say. Mike McCarthy's opening question. He

458
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 3: was asked by David Moore, than Dallas want to use yesterday?

459
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Speaker 2: Have you seen the comments for Parsons? What happened?

460
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 3: And Mike went out of his way let us know.

461
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: I went spoke to him, we spoke his men, okay,

462
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: and we're fine. So that's what That's what Mike McCarthy

463
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 3: had to say. Jerry Jones on his radio show today,

464
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: Jerry said, quote, do you think I have ever had

465
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Speaker 3: anything that I probably said said it in that way

466
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 3: that ninety nine percent of the time people would interpret it.

467
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: But it was a whoops, and I didn't mean it

468
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: to sound that way. I've had that happen a lot,

469
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 3: as you well know. So he's saying, man, not worried

470
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 3: about he spoke to everybody and buys all good that

471
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: there's no problem. Shannon Sharp tore up Michael Parsons this

472
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 3: morning on ESPN, where he said, Hey, you said it,

473
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Speaker 3: take accountability for it.

474
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Speaker 2: You said what you said.

475
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: You were good until you went into the part about

476
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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy in question his work ethic, which is when

477
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 3: we talked about yesterday. I'm like, that's when you brought

478
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: the log to the fire. You did, never bring the

479
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 3: law to them, like you said everything you did without

480
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: questioning Mike McCarthy and Michael Prson says, there's no way

481
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 3: I would question Mike McCarthy, you know, I feel about it.

482
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: Jerry says, Micah and Mike McCarthy are good, So there

483
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Speaker 3: we go.

484
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Speaker 4: Man, he was good, like like you said, he was

485
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 4: good all the way up into that last part when

486
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 4: he when he when he brought Mike back into the

487
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: conversation saying Zac did more than he's ever had.

488
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: Like, I get it.

489
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Speaker 4: You know, that's what players want to go out and

490
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 4: play for is each other, the guys that cross those

491
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 4: white lines and go to battle and all that good stuff.

492
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 4: You want to play for the guys. Like when I

493
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: was playing, I wanted to play for Dwear. I wanted

494
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: to play for guys that you know, hadn't yet got

495
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 4: a champion ship and been doing this work for a

496
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 4: long time.

497
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Speaker 2: So I get it from that point. But you know,

498
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: once again, it was just I thought it was.

499
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 4: Unnecessary, you know, to bring my man big Mike back

500
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: into the conversation with what he said talking about he

501
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: has putting in more work and all this other stuff,

502
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: and it just made it an unnecessary distraction in my point,

503
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: in my opinion, because now you know, Big Mike had

504
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: to answer all these questions. You know, Parsons answers all

505
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 4: these questions. You think the players in the locker room

506
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: are gonna have to answer these questions. Of course they are.

507
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: When they do locker room, they're gonna first question back

508
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: what you think about Michael Parsons statements. So it's just

509
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 4: bringing added distractions to a season that's already not going

510
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 4: the way you wanted to go. Instead of focusing on

511
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 4: playing and focusing on gett ready for the Houston Texans

512
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 4: and what challenge they got to bring to the table,

513
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 4: we're over here talking about, you know, the statements that

514
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons have made. So to me, I just feel

515
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 4: like it was an unnecessary distraction. I get it from

516
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: both sides, but I feel like, like you said, no,

517
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 4: he just brought a log to the fire through more

518
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 4: gas on the fire by bringing that last statement in.

519
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: But all the stuff before that I was cool with.

520
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 2: But that last statement I think was unnecessary. Hey, let

521
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: me just read you.

522
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: This is Jerry's quote exactly says it wasn't meant as

523
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: a critique of the coach. It was meant as a

524
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: concern for veteran players like Zack Martin who might not

525
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: have that much more left in their career. That's how

526
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: it was meant. There was no doubt in my mind

527
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: that it was meant that way. Micah does not feel

528
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: a lack of appreciation for Mike McCarthy. I visited extensively

529
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: with everyone involved here.

530
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.

531
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Speaker 6: Going back to what you said, because you're talking about

532
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 6: it from a locker room perspective. You're talking about from

533
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 6: being in that situation and what it looks like to

534
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 6: everybody else on the outside, because you understand guys are

535
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 6: having to answer questions that doing the work week that

536
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 6: you should be talking about the Texans and we're still

537
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 6: talking about what our captain, a leader said, you know

538
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 6: about our head coach. Yeah, about our head coach. And

539
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 6: I think lost in trends in all of this is

540
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 6: the fact that Zach Martin is not having his best season.

541
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 6: What what Mike is trying to say is that we

542
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 6: have a destroyer, that is that we wanted to win for.

543
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 6: And sometimes when you're making an emotional statement and you

544
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 6: don't know how to I get situational awareness, keep your

545
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 6: head on the fact that if you do say something

546
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 6: negative to this degree, it's going to be blown up

547
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 6: time ten. But what he's trying to say is that

548
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 6: I want to run. Like you just said, guys like

549
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 6: d Ware, I always hear you talk about Sean Lee,

550
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 6: guys that you had respect for that when you came

551
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 6: into the locker room. Those were the guys that you

552
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 6: want to play with. Those your brothers, and you wanted

553
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 6: to hoist that trophy with them. That's why you do it.

554
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 6: We're in the winning business. People don't do this just

555
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 6: for exercise. Taking you outs with the guys, You know

556
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 6: what I mean, It's all about going to go win

557
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 6: these games. And right now, even when you go back

558
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 6: to twenty fifteen, Barry, I keep hearing you say it,

559
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 6: talk about twenty fifteen, But there was a point in

560
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 6: twenty fifteen where you realize we're just bad. We're just

561
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 6: bad it Carolina, and it don't matter if Barry Church

562
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 6: had two interceptions but Romo got knocked out again. Yeah, again,

563
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 6: that's what I was like. But you saw the writing

564
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 6: is on the wall and there's nothing we can do

565
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 6: that That Philadelphia tape was bad tape. Guys put out

566
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 6: bad tape for the next coach. It's a lot of

567
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 6: bad tape out there, right. And michah a guy who

568
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: is very emotional after losses and performances where he doesn't

569
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 6: play well, he doesn't talk, he walks.

570
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: Out of it, whatever it is.

571
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 6: He finally comes back and talks after being out for

572
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 6: being hurt, and he opens his mouth and everybody. Now

573
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 6: we're into the interpretation stage of what was Michael actually

574
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 6: trying to say. And all he's trying to say is, man,

575
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 6: we got a guy here that this may be it

576
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 6: and we may not be able to win it for him.

577
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 6: I feel bad about that. I'm with you everything after

578
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 6: that you add it to to this situation, and I

579
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 6: don't know if it's just can he come out and say, look,

580
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 6: I made a mistake, slip of the tongue that wasn't

581
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 6: when I was trying to say, let everybody move on.

582
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: But as we know, as this cowboy media.

583
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 6: Cycle is gonna go, they're gonna continue to keep driving

584
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 6: this this point home to make it seem like these

585
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 6: players in the locker room don't respect Mike.

586
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: And Michaeh's exact words. Quote.

587
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: I never once through or even intended to throw Mike

588
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: McCarthy under the bus.

589
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: Period. So that's what he said.

590
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: Words matter, and he's got to be ready and understanding

591
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: that when you have a national podcast like he does

592
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 3: and you are a you're an upper echelon player in

593
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: this league and people are coming to you, got to

594
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: be ready for as much as we tease Russell Wilson,

595
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: Russ on point about these things about what he says,

596
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: Troyan was on point about, Dak is on point about it,

597
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: and Micah needs to get there. Clarence Hill had a

598
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: quote where he says, look, you know, sometimes Michael tries

599
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: to act like he's the smartest guy in the room,

600
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: and sometimes you can misconstrue that thing. That's something he's

601
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: got to work on. And you want to be a podcast,

602
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: you want to do this, You're going to have to

603
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: work on your messaging and what you're trying to say. Now,

604
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 3: here's something that we ain't talked about enough. Zach Martin

605
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: be here next year. Yeah, and I mean no, he's

606
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: saying it. If you played in the room, when a

607
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: guy says this, they already know. Jason Kelsey last year.

608
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: You know, towards the end, people Hey, this might be it,

609
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: this might be it's I don't know it was it.

610
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: They knew so what I'm what we saw with Kelsey

611
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: last year and everything that was there. We've been hearing

612
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: that about Zach since training camp. This is gonna be

613
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 3: it for Zach Martin. And I can't believe he wants to.

614
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: I don't know where where his mind is. I haven't

615
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: talked to him, but I can't believe you want to

616
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: allow your play to go down another level and then

617
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: what it takes for your body to come back. That's

618
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: the thing I've talked to about guys who are lineman

619
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: who played as long as that. Afterwards, Man, your body's

620
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: just warned. Now you only got so many.

621
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: Hits in you and the boys hit every single snap.

622
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: Every snap, man, and then it becomes harder on Monday's

623
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: get out and Russell Maryland had a hard time getting

624
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: out of bed on Mondays man.

625
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: After games because it's just that.

626
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: So at this point in time, and I'm listening to

627
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: this from Mike and I'm listening Jerry, Zach Martin is done.

628
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: So next year Tank Lawrence isn't going to be here.

629
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: His contracts up. Zach Martin's going to be gone.

630
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Terrer still terre Stiel's gonna be an interesting question.

631
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: They have to look after the see, there's.

632
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Going to be some players that they're going to have

633
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: to to replace.

634
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 6: And y'all gotta forgive me on this, man. I just

635
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 6: have a just watching number seventy this season. Is It's

636
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 6: one of those feelings when you see it is Michael

637
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 6: Jordan at the Wizards. Is you know when you started

638
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 6: to see somebody that played so great, you know that

639
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 6: that had that has the career last year, last year,

640
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 6: Zach Martin, but just last year, you know in years

641
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 6: before that, the standard that he set for the offensive line. Man,

642
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 6: I just what makes me sick. And it's just I

643
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 6: just feel this way about certain players. If you didn't

644
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 6: play the game, if you didn't play the game, play

645
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 6: the game at a high level, shut your mouth about

646
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 6: Zach mart because Zach Martin been that. You shouldn't be

647
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 6: able to be some local joke or some guy on

648
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 6: the radio station.

649
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are.

650
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 6: You shouldn't be able to open your mouth shut up

651
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 6: when you're talking about Zack Martin because.

652
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: He been that.

653
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 6: And I'll keep bad play you can put it out.

654
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 6: Whatever your opinion is, Zack Martin, you take him. He's different.

655
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 6: It's exception to the rule. That's number seventy because he's

656
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Speaker 6: been consistent, time proof and consistency. Zach Martin is giving

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Speaker 6: you all of that with no exception on and off

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Speaker 6: the field. So Barry Church, you got something to say

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Speaker 6: about him, other cats around it. That's proving it done it

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Speaker 6: far away, right. But if you can't, If.

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Speaker 2: You no, I'll push back on your phone. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: At what point in time are you just not telling

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Speaker 3: the truth? And when should the truth be told that

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Speaker 3: the player who is the Pro Bowl player year in

665
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Speaker 3: year out in the All Pro is not that guy anymore.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying you're not allowed to say that if

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Speaker 3: unless you played or you're at this level.

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Speaker 2: I mean somebody, I understand. I was just saying, so you.

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Speaker 3: Can't say it even though we're witnessing on take funk.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And all I'm saying is the greatest players I'm

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Speaker 6: not talking about. I'm talking about the great ones, the

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Speaker 6: ones that you know are going to go to Ohio,

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Speaker 6: the guys that you that have proven have shown like

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Speaker 6: you can look you can look at Zach Martin and

675
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Speaker 6: tell right now he is not one hundred percent and

676
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Speaker 6: he is gutting it out right.

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Speaker 2: And it takes a hell of a man.

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Speaker 6: You just talk about Russell Maryland and the price that

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Speaker 6: he paid each and every morning just to get up

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Speaker 6: and walk down the steps, like that's a tremendous price

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Speaker 6: to pay for somebody that don't know that, somebody that

682
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Speaker 6: don't understand that sacrifice that this man has made.

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Speaker 2: A man shut up sign somebody else to talk about.

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Speaker 3: I think that you're you can have both of that.

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Speaker 3: I look at Aaron Rodgers right now. Aaron Rodgers looks

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Speaker 3: let's look good at all. Here's a guy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they probably already got the bus made down in camp

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Speaker 3: somewhere in the basement.

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Speaker 2: He's that good. He's gonna go. He's not what he

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Speaker 2: used to be.

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Speaker 3: And I remember the great Howard Coach hell one time

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Speaker 3: he's like, you know, I'm just telling him like it is.

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Speaker 3: And if you're talking about Zach Martin and Brian brought

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Speaker 3: one five three, the Fan of Cowboy broadcast. He's talked

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Speaker 3: about it. You know, not having a good year, He's

698
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Speaker 3: not having the year that we expect from him.

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Speaker 2: I would be.

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Speaker 3: Surprised if he makes the Pro Bowl, which would be

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Speaker 3: a shock to all of us, because if you think

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, you.

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Speaker 2: Just misc true what I'm saying. I'm do your job.

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Speaker 2: Do your job.

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Speaker 6: But I'm saying scathing criticism of Zach Martin.

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Speaker 2: But who's giving him? That's out there.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying it's out there, and that's and that's

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Speaker 6: that's what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about a

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Speaker 6: guy doing his job. If you've seen, if you've watched

710
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Speaker 6: enough football, and if you watch Zach Martin and you

711
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Speaker 6: know the kind of player that he is, and you

712
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Speaker 6: look at him right now, don't try and turn this

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Speaker 6: around in some media spin to say, oh, he got

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Speaker 6: over on the Cowboys. He's doing like, stop it. This

715
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Speaker 6: guy has sacrificed in giving it all, knew it. That's

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Speaker 6: all I'm talking about. I'm talking about that. And you

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Speaker 6: know what, in this in this world where everybody has

718
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Speaker 6: an opinion about everything, I think greatness, when it's reserved

719
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Speaker 6: for the great players, should stay there. When you talk

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Speaker 6: about a guy like Aaron Rodgers, look when I compare

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers' career to a Tom Brady's career, that's a

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Speaker 6: big difference between those two careers.

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Speaker 3: Now you're you're correct, But I also say from this standpoint,

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Speaker 3: I think we all are at a point in time

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Speaker 3: where we know there are legitimate people that you listen

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Speaker 3: to what they have to say about players, and then

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Speaker 3: you just know, hey, there's some folks.

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Speaker 2: Out here who got their hot takes and they just

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Speaker 2: trying to say what.

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Speaker 3: And I long since drawn that line of I listened

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Speaker 3: to this person.

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking that absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And so if somebody is talking about Zach Martin what

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Speaker 3: you're saying, obviously you know there's a couple you have

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Speaker 3: some people in mind that you don't want to say

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Speaker 3: their names. There' stuff I just don't listen to. That's

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Speaker 3: why I just I kind of laugh at people who

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Speaker 3: who what the debate shows saying. So, I mean the

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Speaker 3: person in Connecticut who's not here. So I just think

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Speaker 3: with that. But for those of us who are here

741
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Speaker 3: and we see Zach mark that man, to me, it's

742
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Speaker 3: real simple. He's he's talked about retiring. They're talking about it.

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Speaker 3: This will probably be it hat tip to him five years,

744
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Speaker 3: there'll be a ceremony and Ken and his name is

745
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Speaker 3: going to be there. When you look at the statistics

746
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Speaker 3: of people at that position, he's right there with the

747
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Speaker 3: greatest who've ever done it.

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Speaker 2: But he's not having a good year to his standard.

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Speaker 3: That happens a whole lot of folks. This is what

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Speaker 3: it is, and it's not Nobod's at least I know

751
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Speaker 3: I'm not besmirching him, but he's not.

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Speaker 2: He's not their best lineman anymore.

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Speaker 3: And that's the first time we've been able to say

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Speaker 3: that since the dude walked in the building. Pretty much

755
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Speaker 3: between he and Tyrone were right there right now. Your

756
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Speaker 3: best lineman is Tyler Smith. And this is a tough

757
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Speaker 3: game man you're giving He's he's done all he can do,

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Speaker 3: and this is the last games we see.

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Speaker 2: If Zach Martin you had tipped off to him, brother.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being here, thank you for being the

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Speaker 2: But by the time is undefeated, and you know, all

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Speaker 2: these guys, man, all these guys, maybe you need a

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Speaker 2: fifteen minimum. I hope, I hope Tyron Smith and Zach

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Speaker 2: Martin go.

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Speaker 3: Out together, because that would be pretty cool if they

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Speaker 3: could also potentially go to Canton together. They both they

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Speaker 3: have the resumes to do it, but it is just

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Speaker 2: In the bad years.

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Speaker 2: They gave me the super Bowl up top, bro, I

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Speaker 2: They had you up top with the l a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: super Bowl when I watched the halftime show. Is that

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Speaker 3: It was high brod you up top, dude, we were

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Speaker 2: The sprite zoner is lower than what the oh damn dude, dude,

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Speaker 2: it was hey, hey man, I mean it is what

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Speaker 2: it is. Uh, it's free ticket, you know, hey, brother,

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Speaker 2: we ain't give you.

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Speaker 6: You know, it was I knew he was used to

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Speaker 6: He was above the Titan Jahn the banners was I

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Speaker 2: See see tell brother, that was zoomed in. This is

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Speaker 2: like that bruh exactly. You need these George zoom in

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Speaker 2: to see the Titans. The jumpbo trunk was lower than

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Speaker 2: to see. I was higher. Okay, damn yes, brother, we was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, brother was high. It's high, man. Okay, look

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Speaker 2: at the National Championship game. Look at like I said,

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Speaker 2: I hope Fan of the Year get better than me.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to Super Bowl, going super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: This was like, let me go to them, go to

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Speaker 2: the I pad and look, miss they won't do you

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Speaker 3: supposed to have Wayne up in there.

872
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: But you know had Wayne Man the hot boy's that

873
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: hot you gotta have. He's gonna feature on somewhere something.

874
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: You gotta have one. If you in New Orleans, you

875
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: ain't gonna have Little Wayne do something.

876
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 6: Man, it's this Kendrick Lamar put out of every ten

877
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 6: years about it.

878
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: That right there was how I saw. That's the real

879
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 3: picture right there. That right there, there's a real picture

880
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 3: of how I saw where we wrot What you just

881
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: said back, you say body of work.

882
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just I'm just talking about albums that Kendrick

883
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 6: Lamar has that the way I'm.

884
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: Just Look, let's just talk about mainstream appeal. I'm not talking.

885
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the albums. I'm not talking. I'm

886
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: talking about the ones that every come on. Now you

887
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: know how what plays into this.

888
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna go, let's not do this because I'm

889
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 6: not talking about the underground artist.

890
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: I think. Correct, Oh.

891
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 7: What do you.

892
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 11: I'm not.

893
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: Look, he's hot right now because of the whole Drake hot.

894
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 6: Can we admit I am first of all, you know,

895
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 6: I'm a little Wayne fan. I'm talking about to the mainstream,

896
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 6: to everybody.

897
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 7: I give.

898
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 6: Wayne did not become mainstream until Drake and Nick Minaje.

899
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 6: That's when all of that happened. Kendrick came out. I mean,

900
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 6: come on, bro get it.

901
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 2: I give it you. Come on all even in even

902
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: in New York.

903
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 6: Ain't nobody making no noise with Katy Perry, with Katy Perry,

904
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 6: come up with come on man with lady I was,

905
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 6: come on man, let's just be real about it. Black

906
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 6: eyed peace, black eye peas and come on man.

907
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: That's when.

908
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 4: That's when we didn't have a represented, you know, picking

909
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: the half helping out.

910
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Now we got you.

911
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 6: I think I think they did a magnificent job. He

912
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 6: is a great performer and the guy that I think

913
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 6: is gonna captivate that. It's gonna be an amazing show.

914
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 6: If we didn't have to bring Wayne on stage to

915
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 6: do that.

916
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: Wayne A Special Guests at least see that that's a

917
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: feature there. Kendrick Lamar is the headliner, Wayne A Special Guests.

918
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: As long as they had my man in the first

919
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: from me, they want to run him out there, like

920
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: with Donna ran Sea Little Green out there.

921
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: That wow, that's how y'all wow, jumping hey man, jumping

922
00:43:59,320 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: and singing the track.

923
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 6: They can't get us set no No, he'll have him

924
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 6: over in the quarter, the spotlight on it his little

925
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 6: b Wayne.

926
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: Like I said, like God when he was got to

927
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: put on the road.

928
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 6: So you're crazy, man, wow, you know easy, he's gonna

929
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 6: see in the corner.

930
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: You can't do that.

931
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: That's what Guess is not even have his do his

932
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: own day. He's gonna sing the chorse little spotlight singing

933
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: the chorus.

934
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: Weazy like that what I'm saying about, gonna be like

935
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: executive producer on the background, dance what.

936
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: They're gonna have my basket and skateboarding out there.

937
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: The special Guess Wow and Wayne in his own Wayne Wow,

938
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: saying that's how they do the legends man, like they

939
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: had the That's how they do elect.

940
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: The capitals come out for us. She's gonna be in

941
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: the background, that's what. That's what Louise. That's wheezy is

942
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: now all right? So we had to bring the show home,

943
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: bab were to bring the weizy is now? Man, Yeah,

944
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: it's not this man, that's crazy. Kendrick. That was a

945
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: great select.

946
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 4: Sound like how they be doing my man, Zach Martin.

947
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: That's that's how y'all sounded right here. It's respecting that

948
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: all time man.

949
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: That's what man.

950
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,839
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00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,120
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