1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: right now Friday, December twenty second. Oh, my last show 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: for me of the twenty twenty three year, and so 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a little roadmap of where 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: we're going. As many of you are putting the final 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: touches on the Christmas tree, or you know, getting ready 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: for your your holiday. Maybe you're going to be on 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: the road, maybe you're going to be up in the sky, 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: flying somewhere. It's the most wonderful time of the year, 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: as the song goes, And I have been listening to 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: more Christmas music than I usually do because my wife 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: likes Christmas music, so I try to play it sometimes 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: in the house. We've got a lovely tree here. But 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: to give you a sense of where we're going, we're 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: going to be doing news and politics in this first hour, 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: taking your calls, and it's free for all on the calls, 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: and you know, maybe try to keep it somewhat topical. 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: But if you've got some insight or you really just 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: want to call in and tell me how much you 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: have enjoyed the show the past year. I don't know, 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: I mean anything like that, because it would be the 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: last time we're chatting live until the new year. And 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: as you know, our buddy Michael Barry's in next week, 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: so you're gonna have live shows here going on for 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: much of the week, and that is going to be great. 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: So Michael Barry will be at the Helm. He'll do 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: a phenomenal job as always, and Clay comes back about 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: I think Friday after the New Year, so I'll be 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: solo with you for almost another week when we get back, 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: and then we're gonna talk to Clay about you know, 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: the alligator tooth necklace. I guess crocodile not alligator. Whoops, sorry, 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: you know, because he's crocodile. Dundee. You guys get what 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: I'm going for here with the Australia thing. But yeah, 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: alligator if he wants, I got an alligator guy here 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: if he wants, you know, alligator paraphernalia. Because Florida. We 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: got a lot to get into though in the in 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: the news and politics Realm eight hundred two A two 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: two eight a two. We're kicking the lines wide open. 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: I want to chat with you, uh, And I want 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: to tell you this first off. I think they're recognizing 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: that they've made a blunder, right, worse than a mistake. 44 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: It's a blunder. That's the quote. People say it's taler Rand. 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it was, uh not taler Rand. 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: This is one of these one of these things. It's 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: attributed on the Internet by a lot of people. But 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: it's a good phrase anyway. Worse than a mistake, it's 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: a blunder. I think that the Democrats are having a 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: little moment here where they're saying the plan is not 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: going according to plan. I see on CNN dot com. 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: This is about Trump and the legal assaults and the 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: Fourteenth Amendment, GAMP at all this stuff that they're trying, 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: it's not working. It's not working. And for anyone who 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: tells me I see, I see the messages people saying 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: they're playing right. You're playing right into the Democrats' hands. 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: I talk to you about the Trump trap. I know 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: that's the theory, that's a possibility, but as I look 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: at these numbers, to me, it just seems like the 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: other side has miscalculated. Right now, you know, you're telling 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: me they're running Biden's numbers to all time lows. I 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: think he just went up most recently in overall approval 63 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: a point or two this week from where he had been, 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: but still very very low approval ratings. And their plan, 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: I think, is what we're seeing, and the plan is 66 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: not yet working. There's the very real possibility that Trump 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: is going to evade indict I'm sorry, I invade conviction 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: in all four of those trials, and we shall see, 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: maybe not. I don't know. There's so many variables here, 70 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: but let me tell you this. CNN dot Com has 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: a piece up by one of their writers, and the 72 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: guy hates Trump, Okay, which is not a surprise. If 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: you're going to write on cn dot com these days, 74 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: you got to be a Trump hater. But here is 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: just one and let me I'll give him credit. You know, 76 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: he's a very left wing guy. I'm gonna re Damon Linker. 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: He is a fellow at the Open Society Project. I mean, 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: he is a left wing guy, Okay, But my point 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: here is this is his So what about the Trump 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment thing? The best outcome, he writes of this episode, 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: would be for the US Supreme Court to strike down 82 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: the Colorado rulings swiftly and unambiguously making clear that for now, 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: no state will be permitted to disqualify Trump from seeking 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: or holding the office of the presidency. Trump and his 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: populous style of politics can't be defeated by lawyers and judges. 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: They can only be beaten at the ballot box. End quote. 87 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: You know, I think that some of the Libs are 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: saying this now because not that they want to play fair. 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: I think they realize, as I said, it's worse than 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: a mistake. It's a blunder what they've done here, indictments 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: and now the Fourteenth Amendment thing in Colorado. I get 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: that it's early. Some of you, I'm sure, are World 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: War One history buffs, right, I mean, I find World 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: War One fascinating, horrifying, terrifying, but fascinating period of history. 95 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: I feel like World War Two gets you know, in 96 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: part because there's more there's like more video footage. Also, 97 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 2: well there's a lot of reasons why, you know, sixty 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: million dead and the death camps of the Nazism and 99 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: all that. But world War Two, on like the History 100 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: channel gets a lot more focused than World War One. 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: That's all I'm trying to say, there's World War Two 102 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: is something that we've there's more movies about it. There's 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: just more. It's more in our our minds, you know, 104 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: shape the modern world even more. But World War One 105 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: and World War Two are really two things that go 106 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: very much together. In some ways, you could argue, I 107 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: think it's all really one very inter twined period of history. 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: And in World War One, the Germans had the UH 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: And if you've ever listened to the hardcore history podcast 110 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: on this by Dan Carlin, it's excellent. I mean, I 111 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: think his World War one podcast is his best of 112 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: the history podcasts. Of the Mongol one's pretty good too. 113 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: But the World War One you talk about the von 114 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: Schleefen Plan, right, the von Sleefen Plan was a German 115 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: military strategist, Alfred von Schleefen. You have to say his 116 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: name like that, and you have to imagine a guy 117 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: with like the helmet that has the little spike on 118 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: top of, you know, with a big mustache. All those 119 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: guys had big, bushy mustaches. You even noticed that male 120 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: facial hair fashion changes and is its own concagion. Like 121 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: everyone I've said, in this country, everyone became bearded I've 122 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: actually gone unbearded, as you know recently. But everyone in America, 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: all the guys, not everybody, but you know, beards have 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: become the thing. I think we're gonna enter the mustache 125 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: era next. I'm just saying, Magnum p I, Tom Selleck, 126 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: it's all gonna make a comeback. But von Schleefen had 127 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: this very intricate plan to go around and effectively defeat 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: the Allies. And as you know, it was incredibly precise, right, 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: the movement of men, material, munitions, everything, incredibly precise plan 130 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: to end the war very rapidly, and it was adjusted 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: a little bit by Moltka, another German military strategist. And 132 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: so now now historians can debate. You know, well Moltka 133 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: didn't use enough men, and so that was the problem. 134 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: The shleef In plan in World War One perhaps would 135 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: have worked. And understand that Schleifen as also a military 136 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: historian of sorts. He wanted to do the double envelopment 137 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: which I've talked to you about before. The Roman Second 138 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: Punic War, Hannibal defeats the Romans at Canny or Canne 139 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: sixty thousand roughly dead, annihilates the army by a double envelopment, 140 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: meaning completely surrounded on all sides, and then just the 141 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: slaughter machinery finishes off its work. That was effectively with 142 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: now guns and cannons, artillery pieces what Schleiefen was trying 143 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: to do to the French right, just end the whole 144 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: thing before anyone else can get in the ward. I 145 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: bring up the schleief In plan one because saying some 146 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: of these German words is it's always a challenge, right 147 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: like and shinedung schlucked in, shindung schluck that's a decisive battle. 148 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure I'm saying that one correctly. I 149 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: took two years of German in school. Fun fact, two 150 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: years of German ik weis buck took German, it took French, 151 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: it took Arabic speak. Basically, I can order off a 152 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: French menu. That's about as much as I can do. 153 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm good with the stake freet But the Schleiefen plan 154 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: didn't work, and then what happened Trench warfare. I think 155 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: that the legal assault on Trump and the fourteenth Amendment thing. 156 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: I think this was the democrats Schleifen plan. I think 157 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: they really believed that they could still have Joe Biden 158 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: win because they were going to get they were going 159 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: to get convictions of Trump. He would be a convicted felon. 160 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: And then the backup plan, or a part of the 161 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: plan as well, is this now taking him off the ballot, 162 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: but that effectively the legal abuse would deliver them the 163 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: win that they want so badly in twenty twenty four. 164 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: And I think their sleeping plan is going to turn 165 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: into political trench warfare, just like in World War One, right, 166 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: we dug in, they dug in, well, actually the British, 167 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: the French they dug in, the Germans dug in. I 168 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: think we're heading into political trench warfare. That's the sense 169 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: that I have right now that their plan. I don't 170 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: think that there's some other brilliant maneuver that they have, 171 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: you know, I think they tried. The Democrats tried their 172 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: sleeping plan, and they have failed against Trump. That's the 173 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: sense that I have right now. I think they're waking 174 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: up to that too. Maybe maybe there's some part of 175 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: this that I don't see. Maybe there's a breakthrough. They 176 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: get it, they get it conviction in New York, they 177 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: get a conviction in DC, and that changes the whole game. 178 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: I think they're still holding off, holding out hope for that, 179 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, there is a growing recognition that 180 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 2: they got they got a real at least a real probability, 181 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: a really high possibility, that they've got a problem with 182 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: the strategy for twenty twenty four. I don't think they're 183 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: that clever that this is what they had in mind. 184 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they can't still pull it out. And 185 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: remember trench warfare. I'm not saying who has the advantage 186 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: in that in some ways because of their ballot chase 187 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: operations and their ballot harvesting and their early voting and 188 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: the mail in balloting, and you know, trench warfare is 189 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: going to be tough for our side too. But that's 190 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: where I think we're heading. I'm moving away from the 191 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: grand sweeping maneuver that will just you know, and this 192 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: also in my mind, this means, you know, we're not 193 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: going to get a Michelle Obama DNC unity candidate thing. 194 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: We're not going to get Gavin Newsom, you know, getting uh, 195 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: you know, parachuted in at the last minute to take over. 196 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: And and I and I don't think and I could 197 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: be wrong on this too, And I always. I always 198 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: am honest with you about that, because I think it's 199 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: so easy people say, oh, this is going to happen, 200 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: or that is going to happen, beoble wrong all the time. 201 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: Something could happen in the Republican primary, but I think 202 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: that at this point, come on, it would have to 203 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: be a total shock, right, And so that's why those 204 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: huge surprise maneuvers that at least were planned. We could 205 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: still have some massive surprise next year. But I'm talking 206 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: about again the Democrat schliefan plan. I'm talking about their 207 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: their strategy to be able to keep a Biden Harris 208 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: ticket in office. And remember Biden or Harris. I've always 209 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: said it could be I mean, so yeah, Biden or Harris, 210 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: it could be either one of them. To me, that's 211 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: the same, that's the status quo. Do you see this 212 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: my way? Do you think I'm right? Is this a 213 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Democrats relief in plant? And therefore now we're going to 214 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 2: the trench warfare that their initial the initial onslaught of 215 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: court cases and everything else. Now some of you may say, well, Buck, 216 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: we don't know. Maybe he's still we can't know because 217 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: he's not going to be found or he has not 218 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: yet been found guilty in any of these trials. We're 219 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: not sure if any of these trials can happen. That's 220 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: all true, but I think there's the very real possibility 221 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: that it's not going to happen, meaning he won't be convicted, 222 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: and or maybe the trials don't even occur in time, 223 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: and I'm not even sure if they do. Even if 224 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: he is convicted, that that would change the race the 225 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: way that Democrats thought that it would. So having a 226 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: little World War One history analogy time here, you can agree, disagree, 227 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: let me know, or you can tell me what your 228 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: favorite Christmas ornament is this year. Whatever you want. We're 229 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: wide open here, friends, we are wide open today. We're 230 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: gonna have lots of fun on the show. I know 231 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm keeping a lot of your company for your last 232 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: day in the office perhaps, or your last day or 233 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: your day on the road as you're traveling to go 234 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: see family and friends. So today's going to be a 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: fun show. 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Look, I think two years of 263 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: German in high school, I don't remember anything. Really, I 264 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: think I remember how to say, like the bus is 265 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: caput or something? I mean it was not. Doesn't stay 266 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: with you languages so much of a use it or 267 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: lose it situation. You know, you got to keep it 268 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: all going. Okay. I was talking to the Sleep and 269 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: Plan for Democrats. Think about that. We talked a little 270 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: World War One history. Gave you a podcast wrect for 271 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: World War One. If you're looking for a great World 272 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: War One book, Kagan's History of the First World War, 273 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: you will rip through it over the holiday. It is 274 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: just phenomenal. And if you're I'm sorry Kegan, did I 275 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: say Kagan? Keegan? Whoops? And I know because I'm looking 276 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: at it right now on my shelf. And so Keegan's 277 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: History of the First World War is phenomenal. And although 278 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: there are the Kagans are also military authors, it's a 279 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: whole other thing, and then you can do, gosh, the 280 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Guns of August by Tuckman, which I very much, very 281 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: much enjoy. So those are good World War One books. 282 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: But let's get into my theory here. First of all, 283 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: I think they've realized that the whole Colorado thing is 284 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: a big mistake, because I mean, here's kaarreean Jean Pierre, 285 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: who's saying, now the White House is worried about all 286 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: the rhetoric. This is cut for the rhetoric that following 287 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: the decision in Colorado to take Trump off the ballot 288 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: by those judges play for. 289 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: Us have a response to this significant violent rhetoric that 290 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: targeted the Colorado Supreme Court justices and Democrats following that 291 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: ruling that would have kept that would keep Donald Trump 292 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: off the ballot. There some of that violent rhetoric has 293 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: come directly in response to his own posts on social media, 294 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: but there were concerns raised about that and that spreading 295 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: on social posts on violent language of rhetoric in response 296 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: to that targeting specifically the Supreme Court justices in Colorado. 297 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: Well, we've been always very clear any any intimidation, any 298 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: violent rhetoric are violence. We're certainly going to denounce that 299 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: and says inappropriate. 300 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: Look at this, this is like an alley up in basketball. Right. 301 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: The journalist is like, let's not talk about how wildly 302 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: insane and unconstitutional the Colorado State Supreme Court action is, 303 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: let's talk about how people are saying mean things online. 304 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: What do you think about the things they're saying online? 305 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: The White House goes, oh, we don't like when they 306 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: say mean things online? All a distraction. I mean, you know, 307 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: I from my stance on Israel versus Hamas, you should 308 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: I mean the things that people write into me and 309 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: get people writing the death threats and stuff. I don't 310 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: come on here whining about, oh I support Israel and 311 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: the Hamas supporters are lunatics and they say I should 312 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: go kill myself. You know, I mean, give me a break, right, 313 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: That's that's I mean, this is a distraction from the discussion, 314 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: which is what matters, and what they're doing there is 315 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: exactly that they've got to find a way to make 316 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: the Democrats and the Biden regime the victims, so to speak. 317 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: After a bunch of Democrat partisan judges have tried to 318 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: remove Trump from the from the ballot in Colorado, and 319 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: hoping that other states do this as well to effectively 320 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: make it impossible for him to win the election. Right, 321 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: but they're the victims. Isn't it amazing how they do this? 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Okay, MyPillow dot com get some my towels. 342 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Click on the radio listener special Square and use promo 343 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: code clayand Buck. That's my pillow dot Com. Use promo 344 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: code Clayan Buck, Get some my towels. Welcome back in. 345 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: Everybody is the last live show for me of the year, 346 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: and I am so excited to get to talk to 347 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: all of you. As I mentioned, Yeah, plays on Vacation 348 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Australia Michael Barry in next week. And my birthday is 349 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 2: next week. So we got the birthday Baby Jesus on 350 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Monday and the birth of the Buckster on I think Thursday. 351 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: Is that my birthday? I think so. So a big 352 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: week next week is all I'm saying. A big week 353 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: next week. We have a lot of calls in. I 354 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: want to take more of your calls too, because getting 355 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: a little sad it's the last time I'll be chatting 356 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: with some of you until the new year. Charles in 357 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: Atlanta has retired Special Forces. What's going on? Charles? Thank 358 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: you for your service. 359 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: Hey, thank you, Buck. We're all in the same fight, 360 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: right fighting for America. Merry Christmas, happy with Christy, and really, 361 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 5: God bless you and yours and God bless America. The 362 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 5: reason I'm calling is to thank you because you know 363 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: a lot of people out there in media don't have 364 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 5: the stones to call it what it is. You call 365 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 5: them commies. Our opposition are Marxists. And you know, I've 366 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 5: studied insurgencies. That's what special forces kind of focuses on. 367 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: And I'll tell you the first thing an insurgency does 368 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 5: is infiltrate organizations and kind of co opt them. They 369 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: set up the shadow government and they pull strings behind 370 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 5: the scenes. And that's what you're seeing with a lot 371 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 5: of our Democrat opposition. They're not just normal Kennedy Democrats. 372 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 5: They are Marxists. And if you scratch the surface of 373 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: most Democrats today, you'll find a Marxist. And I'll tell 374 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: you you're the only one that really caused Rush was 375 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 5: hesitant to call them communists or Marxist. He would call 376 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 5: them leftists. But I commend you for calling them what 377 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 5: they are. You know, words matter, and oftentimes you know, 378 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: the left co ops the language. So thanks all the 379 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: best to you and yours and God bless America. 380 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Charles. I appreciate that. And yeah, we're going 381 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 2: to keep the fight up against all these comedies and 382 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: we're not going to step back away from it at all. 383 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: So thank you so much. Casey in Denver. 384 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 6: What's going on, Casey, Hey Buck, I was curious what 385 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 6: you thought about this decision in Colorado regarding let's say 386 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 6: it happens and Trump's not allowed on the ballot. I 387 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 6: firmly believe anyone that would have voted for Trump in Colorado, 388 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 6: plus anyone that's Democratic and is on the fence about Biden, 389 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 6: would just immediately vote for Kennedy. 390 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm sorry. You're saying, in Colorado people that would 391 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: have voted for Trump will vote for will vote for RFK. 392 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: And you think this is the Democrat plan. 393 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 6: I don't necessarily think it's the Democrat plan. I almost 394 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 6: think it's a huge trolled, troll job long term planned 395 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 6: by Kennedy's team. 396 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: Hum. No, I mean, look, I'll tell you I don't 397 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: think this is it's not going to stand. I mean, 398 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: because you know, and we can know this because a 399 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: lot of it's times. Thank you for calling in casey. 400 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: A lot of times when you're talking about a appeals 401 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 2: court the like the Fifth Circuit or the Ninth Circuit 402 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: or whatever, there's a little bit of a lottery of well, 403 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: who's the judge is it going to be on bank 404 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: on bank? If we're going to be more French on bank. 405 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: But you don't know which judges you're gonna get unless 406 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: the you go with the on bank situation where you 407 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: get all of them, right, And so there's a little 408 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: bit of variable in that we know who the Supreme 409 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: Court justices are and we I think have a pretty 410 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: good sense on an issue like this. You know, a 411 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: think about this. If this were to stand, well, then yeah, 412 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: Texas should kick Biden off the ballot, right, I mean, 413 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: this is absurd Why Biden Biden has has aided an 414 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: abedded invasion of the United States and therefore is giving 415 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: aid and comfort to you know, the cartels or an 416 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: enemy of the United States, and YadA, YadA. Yeah. I mean, 417 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 2: you know I could do this all day, come up 418 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: with some pretexts at someone, no trial, no presentation of evidence, 419 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: no nothing, just yeah, I say, so, therefore you're penalized 420 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: under law, and this is just true autocracy stuff. It's 421 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: it's nonsense. It's utter nonsense. I read the Colorado and 422 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: they're just a bunch of judges. Remember three judges Democrat appointees, 423 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: were like, nah, guys, we can't do this. Four judges 424 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: were like, eh, because they have trumped arrangement syndrome. That's all. 425 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: So when you when you see it and you read there, 426 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 2: it makes no sense. It just makes no sense. It 427 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: is because they say so. I mean, think about that. 428 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: Think about what is the outer limit of that. You 429 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: you fomented an insurrection, says who says the judge. Oh okay, 430 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: if they can do that, they can just lock you up, 431 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. If they can do this 432 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: to Trump, they can say you, I don't like you. You're 433 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: going to prison. Wait hold on, do I get a trial? 434 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 7: No? 435 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: No trial. You are declared. You are declared a a 436 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: criminal and a criminal against the state in this case. 437 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, treason is this is pretty serious stuff, right, 438 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: and if insurrections pretty serious stuff, and they're just declaring 439 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: this is the way that it is. What is it? 440 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: A bill of a tainder? Right? Bill of a tainder 441 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: was something that the founders were very concerned about, and 442 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, Bill of attainders when they would 443 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: pass a fact when Parliament could be used to pass 444 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: a law effectively that attacked one person and took all 445 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: their stuff or through them in prison. No bills of 446 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: a tainder. The abuse of law in that way or 447 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: the arbitrary, capricious and politicized weaponization of law destroys the society, 448 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: destroys the society. And that's what Democrats are doing right now. 449 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, everybody, Uh, Jack in Georgia. What's going on? 450 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 5: Jack? 451 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 8: Hey, great show? 452 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: Love it every day. Yes, thank you. 453 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 8: It's weaponization of the law system. And this called yeah 454 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 8: and it's actually in the law dictionary, you know. And 455 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 8: if you use, you know, using the law against your opponent. 456 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 8: And I think that's what the Democrats are gonna do. 457 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 8: They're gonna sit there and put up ad after ad 458 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 8: after ad of. 459 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 9: Hitler and Trump on TV with cities burning in the background. 460 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 9: They're gonna scour the neighborhoods. They're going to go to 461 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 9: rest homes, apartment buildings, and they're gonna make it look 462 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 9: just like COVID. They're gonna get so many people scared 463 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 9: against Trump. That is gonna be like COVID, and they 464 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 9: are they don't care if they don't care, you know, 465 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 9: if if they lose a case or not, because the 466 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 9: people are hearing that, you know, one side of it. 467 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: Well, this is important, Jack you saying thank you for 468 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: calling it from Georgia. This is important as far as 469 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: the Democrat machine is concerned, win or lose, bringing the indictment, 470 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: bringing these trials is that you know. I always say 471 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 2: the process is the punishment. It's something I learned from 472 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: being in the CIA and work in the federal bureaucracy. 473 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: But it is so true they win either way. And 474 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: I was saying this about the Russia collusion thing because 475 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: I think on the right there was a little bit 476 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: of a oh see, it was all a lie. It 477 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: was all it was all, you know, hocus pocus nonsense. 478 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: And you know, we wanted to pat ourselves on the 479 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: back when the Mulla report finally came out. It was 480 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 2: such a joke. But I had to tell everybody, look, yeah, 481 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: obviously it was all a lie and it was dirty trick, 482 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: and the whole thing was was a total scam. But 483 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: they look at all the attention they got look at 484 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: all the mobilization they had against Trump. Tangling. I used 485 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: to say it was like the Lilliputians tying down Gulliver 486 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: with all the ropes and Gulliver's travels right so that 487 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: they were able to use it even though they didn't 488 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: get the outcome they wanted. By throwing that against Trump 489 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: for those years, they slowed down his presidency, They slowed 490 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: down his advisors. It was, you know, it was sand 491 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: grinding in the years of the Swiss watch. You know, 492 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: but you don't want that. You gotta take good care 493 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: of Swiss watches. As I sit here with like a 494 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: g shock on my wrist, where are we now? One 495 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: more here, Carly and Colorado? What's going on? 496 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: Carly? 497 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: A lot of Colorado. 498 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 10: Calls, Yeah, well, we're pretty upset out here. 499 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: I can imagine this is like a therapy session for 500 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: Colorado on the show. Go ahead. 501 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 10: Well, I would talk about that, but I want to 502 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 10: talk about Michelle Obama. Sure, I have never thought she's 503 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 10: going to run. From my understanding the reading I've done 504 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 10: listening to her, she hated living in the White House. 505 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 10: I don't think that a lot of people like her 506 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 10: outside of her little cult and I just don't think 507 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 10: it a work. I just think she's loving her life 508 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 10: right now. 509 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, Carly, I'm with you on that 510 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. And I know and I 511 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: know that sounds a little definitive, and people are saying no, 512 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: and there's this theory out there. It's an interesting theory 513 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: that will get clicks online and that will get people 514 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: sort of fired up. But I am I am very 515 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: confident that that it is not going to happen for 516 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: some of the reasons you laid out. Thank you for 517 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: calling in, Carly. Also because this stuff is, you know, 518 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: a presidential campaign. You need to think of it like 519 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: a military a military campaign, and it's on level, right, 520 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: and you can't just move the whole army at the 521 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: very last minute without any preparation, and you know, there's 522 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: to pull that kind of a switch. Would presume that 523 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: everything would just fall into place, and the you know, 524 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: the organization, it just it just doesn't work like that. 525 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: It's just more complicated than that. And then on top 526 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: of that, I just don't think Michelle Obama wants the job. 527 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: People might think themselves, oh, but she'll you know, she 528 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: would put country first. And she would. Really she gets 529 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: to go from mansion to mansion and hang out with 530 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: the richest and most powerful celebrities in the world. She 531 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: she wants you know, she's gonna show up in debate. 532 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: She's gonna live in the White House. I don't know, 533 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: you wants to live in the White House? Has she 534 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: already lived in the White House for eight years? Right? 535 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: It's not exciting anymore. I don't. I don't think. I 536 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: think anybody after eight years in the White House probably 537 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: had enough. So I don't. I don't see it at all. 538 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: I'll just be honest and people I know just I've 539 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: got family members who disagree with me on this. I 540 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: don't see it at all. I think that, Uh. The 541 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: one thing that now is sticking in the back of 542 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: my mind ever since I've said the democrats schleief and 543 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: plan against Trump has failed. The one thing that I 544 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: consider in the background here is they haven't turned on 545 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: the full propaganda machinery of the left against Trump yet. 546 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: We haven't seen it. It's and I think they're I 547 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: do think they're uh, they're holding back. I think they're 548 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: waiting until Trump is the nominee and then they're just 549 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: gonna open. You know, remember Maximus and Gladiator. I've my 550 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: signal unleashed. Hell, it's kind of like that, except the 551 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: Democrats are the bad guy, so I guess they'd be 552 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: like the Germanic barbarians in this case on the other side. 553 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: But you get what I'm saying. I think that great movie, 554 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: by the way, Gladiator, great movie, highly, highly recommended. If anyone, 555 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: I think, I would bet ninety something percent of this 556 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: audience I see in that movie. That movie's phenomenal. We'll 557 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: take more calls. I'll also tell you about where the 558 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: economy stands, and we'll maybe have some Christmas thoughts. Oh, 559 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: another Douglas Murray throw down with a member of the 560 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: Young Turks on Hamas you are going. Doug Murray has 561 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: just been He has been dunking on Commis on the 562 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: issue of Hamas like it like nobody's business. I don't know, 563 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 2: it's it's been amazing to watch Doug and he's really really, 564 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: in my eyes, more and more turning into a sort 565 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: of right wing Christopher Hitchins. He's really which for me 566 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: is high praise because even though I disagree with Higgins 567 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: on some things, he was very talented, but Doug is 568 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: doing some great work, so we'll play that for you 569 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: as well. You're gonna want to hear that one. But 570 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: here's book I was telling you of books before to 571 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: put on your short list of must reads. It's called 572 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: Money Shackles. The author is Dutch Mendenhall. Dutch is a 573 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 2: friend of mine and he knows business. He's distilled his 574 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: success in buying real estate in a smart way and 575 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: does some really clever alternative thinking about it. He's got 576 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: his own success path that you can emulate. He's built 577 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: himself a two hundred million dollar portfolio of property, so 578 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: he knows what he's talking about. What makes Dutch different 579 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: as well as his approach, is how he harnessed the 580 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: use of debt in achieving his own version of the 581 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: American dream. He knows debt gets a bad name, thus 582 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: the term money shackles, but if it's used productively, that 583 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: can be a different ballgame. Tap into Dutchess thinking and 584 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: his vision for a new American dream. Make it work 585 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: for you. He can get the book at a website 586 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: Moneyshackles dot com. That's money Shackles dot com. That easy. 587 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm an investor with Dutch, I should 588 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: tell you that. So, I mean, I put my own 589 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: money into what Dutch is doing because I believe in 590 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: his real estate acumen. The original American dream maybe a 591 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: thing of the past, but you can get ready for 592 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: the refined American dream with Dutch menden Hall's help. Get 593 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: his new book, Money Shackles. Go to Moneyshackles dot com. 594 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: Have fun with the guys on Sundays the Sunday Hang podcast. 595 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: It's silly, it's goofy, it's good times. 596 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: Fight it in the Clay and Buck podcast. 597 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: Feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 598 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: One thing, you know, we're all getting a little lump 599 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: of coal in our stockings courtesy of the Biden economy, 600 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: which is disappointing. To be sure, they're trying to tell 601 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: us otherwise, but here I just thought this was interesting. 602 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: A eerie Pennsylvania voters are telling NBC reporter Dasha Burns 603 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: how they feel about the economy, and listen to this one. 604 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: I mean it starts with they're asking who feels good 605 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: about the economy. No one raises their hand, but they 606 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: all raise their and when well, listen to this play, 607 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: there feels good about the economy right now. 608 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 4: Who feels bad about the economy right now? 609 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: What are the challenges you're facing economically. 610 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: I would think it would be groceries, gas, everything you have. 611 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 9: To buy every day is way more expensive than previous years. 612 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 7: I'm not better off now than I was four years ago. 613 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 7: I retired three years ago. I never planned on using 614 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 7: some of the money that I saved to retire that 615 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 7: I had to use because of the economy. 616 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 617 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 7: If the stock markets up, I must be in the 618 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 7: wrong place because I'm not making the same money that 619 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 7: I was. 620 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: Making before, and you're paying a lot more. I mean, 621 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: you listen, these are just these are everyday folks, right 622 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: This is just people out there doing what they do, 623 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: doing the right things, and they feel like it's not 624 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 2: working out for them right now. And it's understandable why 625 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: they feel that way, because the Biden economy stinks. And 626 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: I sorry, and Merry Christmas and through all the good night, 627 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: you know, but the Biden economy is not good, and 628 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 2: we all understand why it's not good because Democrats are 629 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 2: They're wrong about the economy the same way they're wrong 630 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: about masks. I mean, they're just objectively incorrect on how 631 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: they think things ultimately function. Like they're wrong on this stuff. 632 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: It's not like, oh, I disagree. Increasing government spending, increasing taxation, 633 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: increasing redistribution of wealth, increasing regulation. These things make us 634 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: all as a people less wealthy and less prosperous and 635 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: create less growth. And this is just the truth. This 636 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: is the truth. And we see it play out in 637 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: this society. We play out, We see it play out 638 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: in any country that has anything approximating a free market. So, yeah, 639 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: it's not a surprise. But Karine Jean Pierre wants you 640 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: to know that Americans are feeling great or at least 641 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: more confident a little bit maybe than on the economy. 642 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: Here's fourteen play it. 643 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: Inflation fell to the lowest level in three years. That's important. 644 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: Consumer confidence is at the highest level since July, and 645 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: the second highest level in two years. And so we're 646 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: glad to see that Americans are feeling more confident about 647 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 4: the economy. 648 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: Not gonna do it. It's not gonna work, not enough. 649 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 2: So what can they do with the levers? They have 650 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: to try to make things seem better than they are 651 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: for the economy. It's not that much they're going to 652 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: bring down rates rapidly. I've already said that, I think 653 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: more rapidly than the economic forecasters some of them are 654 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: currently saying. So want to say, oh my gosh, what 655 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 2: a surprise. Biden is such a a cap or the Fed? 656 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: You know whatever, It's all the same, Biden, the Fed, 657 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: the machinery of our economy. It's all of a sudden 658 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: going to start trying to make things look better. Gonna 659 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: update you on the situation in Israel with Amas coming 660 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: up the next hour. We're also gonna take a bunch 661 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: of your calls kind of like anna ask me anything 662 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: hour honestly, So if you got anything you want to ask, 663 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: now is the time or in a few minutes will 664 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 2: be the time. Eight hundred two eighty two to eight 665 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: a two. We've got some more news. We'll get to 666 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: many things coming your way on the Clay end Buck Show. 667 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: And I can't believe it, but it's almost Christmas time, everybody, 668 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: so uh, strap on him. We've got a couple more 669 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: hours to go back. In a few