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Speaker 1: fought with the mail that abducted her child, and a

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Speaker 1: So between six thirty eight and about eight forty four,

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Speaker 1: details on the vehicle. They started receiving details on the mail,

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Speaker 1: who was described as a black male with a bald head,

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Speaker 1: wearing a nigh blue sweatsof wearing a gold chain that

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Speaker 1: we later learned with Mike Webb as police Chief, Joel

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald and you hear everybody cheering and clapping and the

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Speaker 1: return of selling svodka. But Kathleen Murphy, we know this.

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Speaker 1: We know she was in a motel room with this

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Speaker 1: guy for eight or nine hours before she was saved. Nancy,

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Speaker 1: I am heartbroken about this situation, and I'm going through

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Speaker 1: my mind. How did this guy get into a hotel

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Speaker 1: room with a child that young? Obviously it was a

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Speaker 1: hotel room he had before he kidnapped this child. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure of what transpired to allow him to be

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Speaker 1: in a hotel room with a child. This show clearly

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Speaker 1: this child was distressed. I don't know what happened to

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Speaker 1: facilitate that, but thank god this child has been found.

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Speaker 1: John Cardillo, on a former NYPD We've been wrestling with

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Speaker 1: this question and don't know the answer. I'm working on

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Speaker 1: a book is supposed to come out in March called

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Speaker 1: Don't Be a Victim, Fighting Back against America's Crime Way,

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Speaker 1: and John Cardilo, one of the biggest chapters that involved

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Speaker 1: the most research is keeping your child safe out and

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Speaker 1: about how to not get dragged into a car. And

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Speaker 1: I've pounded it into my children's head so many times.

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Speaker 1: Don't get close to a car, don't even get close

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Speaker 1: to it. Now. You know they've run all these tests

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Speaker 1: on children that no matter how much you tell them,

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Speaker 1: they steal. Somebody goes, hey, can you help me find

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Speaker 1: my puppy, They walk right up to the window. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how he got her in the car,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think this guy, Michael Webb ever got

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Speaker 1: out of the car. Somehow he came up beside them

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Speaker 1: managed to kick the mom back out. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: how he did it. The point is, John Cardilo, you

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Speaker 1: can't even get close to the car because once an

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Speaker 1: adult can get their hand on the child, just their

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Speaker 1: hand on the child, their shirt there, anything, it's over. Yeah. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: there are many neighborhoods out there, even the most affluent

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Speaker 1: ones that don't have sidewalks, and people these are low

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Speaker 1: traffic streets. People will walk in the street and if

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Speaker 1: they're walking against traffic so they could see it coming.

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Speaker 1: And he's the little girl is close to the driver's side.

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Speaker 1: It's not tough to reach out of your window and

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Speaker 1: the vehicle as it starts moving. It mean, it happens

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Speaker 1: but that's how it would happen. People walking in the

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Speaker 1: street against traffic. Driver's side window opens and it's a

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Speaker 1: very quick snatching clime. Stories with Nancy grace sense of

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Speaker 1: prior criminal history, all I can say is I'm very

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Speaker 1: happy we haven't been custody. Although Sunday's arrest was the

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Speaker 1: first in Tarrant County, court records show Web has a

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Speaker 1: criminal history dating back more than fifteen years. Prior charges

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Speaker 1: include burglary, drug possession, and theft out of Bowie County.

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Speaker 1: We also know that he had a previous incident regarding

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Speaker 1: assaulting someone at a hotel. Those charges had been dismissed

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact. Taken a listen to our

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Speaker 1: friend Aaron Jone CBSL. Last year in Smith County, a

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Speaker 1: woman claimed Webb assaulted her at a Tyler motel. The

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Speaker 1: two apparently knew each other. Webb feast felony charges, but

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Speaker 1: the case was later dismissed. The decision that we made

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Speaker 1: we had an uncooperative victim out of state. Richard Vance,

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Speaker 1: the Assistant District Attorney for Smith County, handled that case.

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Speaker 1: With a case like that, it certainly helps to have

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Speaker 1: the victim mayor present to testify. That wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: happen as the trial date was approaching. So we made

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Speaker 1: the decision to dismiss. And so the hope now is

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Speaker 1: to find that victim in within the statute of the

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Speaker 1: limitations and again and back here and for worth Steve,

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Speaker 1: police say more charges are most likely coming for what

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Speaker 1: you know what that one decision. To doctor Brian Russell, psychologists, lawyer,

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Speaker 1: host of the hit series Fatal Vows on Investigation Discovery,

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Speaker 1: and author of Stop Moaning, Start Owning on Amazon, Doctor

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Speaker 1: Brian Russell, that weighed on me like a set of

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Speaker 1: rocks every time I even took a guilty plea months

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Speaker 1: less went to trial, because I believed with every case,

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Speaker 1: if I didn't take action, if I didn't get a

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Speaker 1: conviction or do the right thing, the purpe could very

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Speaker 1: well get out and offend. Again. That weighed on my

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Speaker 1: mind like you would not believe. And in this case,

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Speaker 1: the very same scenario, this guy Michael Webb allegedly gets

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Speaker 1: a female into a motel, assaults her and charges are

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Speaker 1: dropped and because of that he was out walking free. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think our view or our listeners have heard

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Speaker 1: enough to know that this is the norm. It is all.

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Speaker 1: We almost never talk about a case that turns out

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Speaker 1: to be the very first crime of the perpetrators. And

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Speaker 1: you know, every time I just about want to vomit

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Speaker 1: every time I hear he has a fifteen year criminal history,

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Speaker 1: and I think, how in the hell do you have

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Speaker 1: a fifteen year criminal history and be on the damned street?

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Speaker 1: How do you? How do you? How do we allow

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Speaker 1: people to keep committing crimes for fifteen years and we

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Speaker 1: still don't take him off the street and throw away

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Speaker 1: the key. It's sickening to me. We are learning that

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Speaker 1: salm Sabacca was hold up with this perv in a hotel,

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Speaker 1: a motel for hours on in before she was rescued.

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Speaker 1: Thank god she was rescued. To Kathleen Murphy, I've had

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Speaker 1: many a case where a victim was afraid or did

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Speaker 1: not want to testify. In this previous case, one of

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Speaker 1: the meeting with Michael Webb, the purr of accused in

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Speaker 1: this case, the woman didn't want to go forward. Why

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Speaker 1: because why should she have faith in the system. She

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Speaker 1: probably thought this guy would get right back out on

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Speaker 1: bond and take vengeance on her. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: she thought, but she would not proceed forward. That is

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Speaker 1: when it's on the prosecutor to go forward, right, And Nancy,

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Speaker 1: what would Nancy do? Would Nancy have allowed this victim

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Speaker 1: to not be engaged in this process? And the other

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Speaker 1: part of it is a weapon was involved, a weapon

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Speaker 1: a sexual assault and drugs and for a weapon to

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Speaker 1: be involved in that situation, why wasn't he prosecuted for

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Speaker 1: something even without the victim? And guess what Nancy today? Today,

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Speaker 1: he's got bond. He's got bond. We're not even thrown

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Speaker 1: away the key now. I mean he probably can't pay it.

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Speaker 1: It's a hundred great, But what the hell I mean,

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Speaker 1: has there ever been a better poster person for no bond?

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Speaker 1: I mean, looking at this guy, this guy, you're right,

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Speaker 1: doctor Brian Russell. Michael Webb, fifty one years old is

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Speaker 1: in the Tarrant County jail charged with aggravated kidnap think

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Speaker 1: of an eight year old little girl. They're likely will

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Speaker 1: be additional charges. Now, if the first case had been

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Speaker 1: handled correctly, the one we're telling you about, he would

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Speaker 1: have already been in jail, but it was dropped for

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Speaker 1: police believe the kidnapping was random. The victim, this little girl,

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Speaker 1: and the suspect had no prior relationship. In other words,

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Speaker 1: he never worked in the home, he didn't work with

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Speaker 1: the parents. He had no reason to see Salem. Now,

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Speaker 1: why why is he getting bond there in Tarrant County

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Speaker 1: to Ellen Colorin. What do you know, Nancy? We know

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Speaker 1: that right now he is church only with aggravated kidnapping.

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Speaker 1: More churches are expected. But like we said, he wasn't

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Speaker 1: given bond one hundred thousand dollars. He is still in custody.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if he has some money to pay it.

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Speaker 1: But if he does come up with that one hundred k,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be out. And as we've heard, he

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Speaker 1: has a fifteen year criminal history, terroristic threats, burglary. He's

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Speaker 1: described as a transient, a neighbor of a home or

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Speaker 1: he sometimes stayed, thought that he lived there, but he

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Speaker 1: didn't actually live there. A woman who answered the door

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Speaker 1: said that he was a relative who stayed there sometimes.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if he was maybe living in this

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Speaker 1: hotel where he took the girl, but we know that

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Speaker 1: this is someone who had violent crimes. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing on one hundred thousand dollars bond, Kathleen Murphy,

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Speaker 1: you know very well, having worked in the system, you

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Speaker 1: don't need one hundred thousand dollars to get out. You

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Speaker 1: need ten percent. You give a mail bosman ten percent

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Speaker 1: of that ten grand, you're out. You're out, walking free.

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Speaker 1: I know he owns a car, I know that much.

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Speaker 1: What else does he own? So he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: come up with a hundred thousand dollars, Kathleen, Now he

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Speaker 1: has come up with ten thousand dollars at the most

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Speaker 1: family friend. If he was a convicted criminal, why weren't

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Speaker 1: he prosecuted for possessing firearms in the incident from April

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Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, You know what, You're right, and then

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Speaker 1: included a sex assault as well a sex assault and

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Speaker 1: agassault with a weapon, all the charges dropped for him

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Speaker 1: to be driving through this neighborhood and put his eyes

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Speaker 1: on Salem's SA vodka. To doctor Brian Russell, psychologist and lawyer,

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Speaker 1: host of Fatal Vows on Investigation Discovery, Doctor Brian, you

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Speaker 1: know it's just as simple as that he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to know this little girl he's driving along. He sees

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Speaker 1: her and he acts on impulse. What is that, doctor Brian. Well,

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Speaker 1: one thing it is is it's indicative of somebody who

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Speaker 1: has committed crimes before and gotten away with. As soon

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Speaker 1: as I heard of this, I said, if this is real,

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Speaker 1: then this is not this guy's first rodeo. The second

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Speaker 1: thing is, if you know, something is truly a spur

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Speaker 1: of the moment decision, then by definition and can't be

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Speaker 1: well planned. And that works in the cops favor that

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Speaker 1: when the criminal, you know, has really thought things through

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Speaker 1: and planned him out, well, it's harder to catch them.

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Speaker 1: So I was more hopeful in this case than I

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Speaker 1: would be in a case where it seemed like it

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Speaker 1: had been really well thought out and planned, you know.

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Speaker 1: And another interesting thing about this is, you know, this

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Speaker 1: is the outcome that we always hope for. If there's

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Speaker 1: going to be a kidnapping, we hope that the kid

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Speaker 1: is found, say, and you know, God forbid, we don't

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Speaker 1: know what happened to her during the time she was

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Speaker 1: with him, but at least she has been found alive,

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Speaker 1: which is the outcome that we all hope for. But

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Speaker 1: you know, anytime something actually goes this well, the kids kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: Some good samaritan recognizes the car, the cops go to location,

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Speaker 1: find the kid alive. Because of things like this the

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Speaker 1: Jesse Smolette case, the first thing that runs through your

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Speaker 1: mind is, wait a minute, this sounds too easy, too simple,

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Speaker 1: you know, too fantastical. You're right, too fantastical. It's a

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Speaker 1: crime that is a fantastical, so unbelievable for many that

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Speaker 1: it has left the entire fort Worth area shaken rot

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Speaker 1: to the core. Police say, child snatch off the street,

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Speaker 1: walking along in broad daylight with her mom, then discovered

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Speaker 1: in a motel with a strange man. Take a listen

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Speaker 1: to Police Chief Joel Fitzgerald's social media here and fort

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Speaker 1: Worth the full Worth Police Department Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. We

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Speaker 1: use these with humor. We post great pictures all the time,

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Speaker 1: and we've actually got a great following here in full Worth.

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Speaker 1: I believe we have close to a quarter million people

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Speaker 1: that watch us. And we don't just use that social

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Speaker 1: media to be funny all the time. We use them

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Speaker 1: when incidents like this come up. In this particular incident,

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Speaker 1: we have so many followers. We do not only for

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Speaker 1: the media here locally, but we also do a Facebook

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Speaker 1: live so that everybody knows exactly what's going on verbatim

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Speaker 1: from the police department, and we shared the video. We

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Speaker 1: did a live update on exactly when this thing took place,

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Speaker 1: and from there we just asked this you know, to

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Speaker 1: be on the lookout for this vehicle. The thing that

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Speaker 1: caught us off guard is as I'm there at the

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Speaker 1: perimeter live while this thing is going on, we just

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Speaker 1: had citizens after citizens showing up saying I'm here to

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Speaker 1: Voma Peter, what can I do to help? And we

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Speaker 1: basically told them take the pictures that we've put on

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Speaker 1: social media and go help us find this car. And

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Speaker 1: that is exactly what two good Samaritans, including a reverend did.

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Speaker 1: We know. This guy is a welder by profession, that's

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Speaker 1: what he does for a living. And in earlier accounts,

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Speaker 1: the previous prosecutor said they couldn't locate the previous victim.

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Speaker 1: How hard did they try? We wait as just as unfolds,

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Speaker 1: I pray to God this guy stays behind bars. A

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Speaker 1: Salem Sabatka is reunited with her mom, Nancy Grace Crimes Story,

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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye