Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody to betting pros. It's time to place
Speaker 1: your bets. So this me Joey p Joe Pi Zapia,
Speaker 1: and this is BP NFL. It's time to look ahead
Speaker 1: at the early value of lines for week four in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And who better to help me out than
Speaker 1: the Undertaker himself Andrew Rickson Ericson. It was a wacky,
Speaker 1: wild week three. It was one where as Sunday dragged on,
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, you know, I'm gonna be very
Speaker 1: careful about week three. This feels like a lot of chalk,
Speaker 1: a lot of weird stuff. I'm gonna back off a
Speaker 1: little bit. And I'm glad I did, because it was
Speaker 1: panic at the disco everywhere. And the one thing that
Speaker 1: I stayed true to was my Minnesota Vikings upset Special
Speaker 1: of the Week. We talked about it on the Thursday show.
Speaker 1: It came through Let's go Vikings. I'm repping the Viking
Speaker 1: stuff today. The Purple people eaters ate the heart of
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. But a week three Ericson, that's still
Speaker 1: going on. We got two Monday Night games tonight. Some
Speaker 1: crazy stuff there, I mean, big takeaways from you. Some
Speaker 1: of these upsets, like, was Bryce Young really just the
Speaker 1: problem all along for the Carolina Panthers, because.
Speaker 2: It's like it, yes he was. He was the problem.
Speaker 2: And now they're talking about how we're getting trade requests.
Speaker 2: We're not going to trade him. I think his stock
Speaker 2: just went down, right. How how great Andy Dalton was
Speaker 2: able to play. He was the first quarterback this season
Speaker 2: to throw for three hundred yards and three touchdowns. Because
Speaker 2: scoring is not a thing anymore, just if you're just
Speaker 2: tuning in right now, nobody scores points anymore. Underdogs are
Speaker 2: covering at an unreal rate. Underdogs are winning out right
Speaker 2: under an unreal rate. It's more fun to better than
Speaker 2: underdog because nobody's scoring, so the games are always close
Speaker 2: and you always got a shot. So that's how I've
Speaker 2: kind of been absorbment. It was more on the underdogs
Speaker 2: this week, and it was more fun because teams aren't
Speaker 2: blowing out other teams, it's not as easy to do it.
Speaker 2: So it was a fun. Week three, really wacky, and
Speaker 2: looking forward to breaking down Week four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's get after it, everybody, and
Speaker 1: let's talk about Week four in the NFL. Let's start
Speaker 1: with maybe maybe a short week is a good thing
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. You don't have too much time
Speaker 1: to dwell in the past because they are going to
Speaker 1: head to New York to play the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 1: Fresh off they are big upset win themselves against the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. The New York Giants are four and a
Speaker 1: half point underdogs right now, I'm betting pros forty three
Speaker 1: and a half is the number, and you got plus
Speaker 1: one eighty five on the Giants to beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: This feels like they get right game here for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to me. But Andrew, from what you've seen out
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, is the four and a half too much?
Speaker 1: Not enough? What do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, we know one thing about the Cowboys, and this
Speaker 2: is going against everything I've already said. But they only
Speaker 2: playing blowouts. I mean, if you watch this game last week,
Speaker 2: it was a blot. I know that they were able
Speaker 2: to rally and get some points on the board. That
Speaker 2: game was not competitive. The Ravens were destroying the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: They got a nonzyde kick, which never happens, especially with
Speaker 2: the new rules, so they got really lucky to kind
Speaker 2: of make that game look a lot closer than it was.
Speaker 2: But every game Dallas plays is a blowout in either direction.
Speaker 2: Either they're getting blown out or they're killing the team
Speaker 2: they're playing. We've seen this. We've seen this story before
Speaker 2: Dallas against the New York Giants, Daniel Jones, the coming
Speaker 2: off of win, they're feeling good short week. I think
Speaker 2: this is where just Dallas just crushes because that's what
Speaker 2: they do. So it's not enough for me. I looked
Speaker 2: at this. I think it's be closer to Dallas by
Speaker 2: a touchdown because I've seen what this team can do
Speaker 2: when they are humming, and it's usually after they play
Speaker 2: really bad they start to hum. So I like the
Speaker 2: under because I think that both offensive lines have a
Speaker 2: lot of issues. You saw the Giants swarming after Deshaun
Speaker 2: Watson in Week three, Dak Prescott was hunder arrest by
Speaker 2: the Ravens. That's the one part of the Giants that
Speaker 2: I do like is their defensive line in their pass rush.
Speaker 2: So again, primetime unders, those have been hitting at a
Speaker 2: high rate. I like the hundred forty three and a
Speaker 2: half and I like the Dallas Cowboys to cover the
Speaker 2: four and a half point spread.
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Speaker 1: Sunday's action here at the one o'clock games. Let's kick
Speaker 1: things off with New Orleans and Atlanta. Atlanta tough loss
Speaker 1: for them, got hosed on that call. No way to
Speaker 1: put it. New Orleans finally turned into a pumpkin Way
Speaker 1: to go, Derek Carr. The Atlanta Falcons are now minus
Speaker 1: one and a half favorites at home. Feels about right
Speaker 1: to me. Forty five and a half is the total
Speaker 1: for this game, minus one twenty five on the Falcons.
Speaker 1: On the money line. I go to the money line
Speaker 1: on this one. I go to the Falcons. I think
Speaker 1: the Falcons are a work in progress, and I think
Speaker 1: the Falcons are going to continue to push things in
Speaker 1: the right direction. That's my feeling, that's my takeaway. New
Speaker 1: Orleans very disappointing against the Eagles, a situation where the
Speaker 1: Eagles ericson were not at full strike out AJ Brown
Speaker 1: and then DeVante Smith comes out of that game and
Speaker 1: frankly kind of disappointing. So I'm on team Atlanta here.
Speaker 1: Where are you when it comes to Falcons and Saints?
Speaker 2: I actually like the Saints here to bounce back. We
Speaker 2: look at what happened in this past game. Rashichiheed had
Speaker 2: a couple of big plays that just didn't end up
Speaker 2: panning out. You know, the first two weeks of the season,
Speaker 2: he was on fire. He was making all those big
Speaker 2: plays downfield. In this game he has over five on
Speaker 2: his five targets, so he didn't see those big passing
Speaker 2: plays downfield. And the Saints lost their starting center right
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the game, so that throws everything
Speaker 2: out of whack. An offensive line that we had concerns
Speaker 2: about entering the year didn't show up in the first
Speaker 2: two weeks. But when you lose your starting center in
Speaker 2: the beginning of the game, that kind of throws everything
Speaker 2: into whack. So I think that kind of caught the
Speaker 2: Saints off guard, trying to adjust on a fly with
Speaker 2: a week of preparation, knowing they don't have Eric McCoy
Speaker 2: or I'm not sure what his his injury is long term,
Speaker 2: but that's kind of I think they'll be more prepared.
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at what's the Falcon's biggest weakness
Speaker 2: Still to this day, they still don't have a pass rush.
Speaker 2: It's non existent. They can't rush the passer. The only
Speaker 2: team that has a worse pressure rate than the Falcons
Speaker 2: this year through three games is the Carolina Panthers. So again,
Speaker 2: Derek car why was he so good the first two weeks?
Speaker 1: No pressure?
Speaker 2: They were not getting pressure on him. So I think
Speaker 2: if they're able to prepare without McCoy, I think that
Speaker 2: we can get back to what we're seeing from that
Speaker 2: offense the first two weeks of the season and not
Speaker 2: what we saw last week. So I like the Saints here.
Speaker 1: You're hanging out with Welsh too much. You know, things
Speaker 1: get thrown out of Weck, not into Weck's way. Too
Speaker 1: much time with the Welsh you're spending.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm only half the shelves within this year.
Speaker 1: I know, That's what I'm saying, and it's shows. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to sit down and have a meeting
Speaker 1: about that later this week. Let's get to the Steelers
Speaker 1: and Colts. This one's in Indianapolis. The Steelers are one
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites on the road. Thirty eight
Speaker 1: and a half is the number whenever you see the Steelers.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have a three to begin the over under
Speaker 1: most days minus one twenty two on the money line
Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Steelers plus one h two for the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. I gotta tell you here, like the discipline
Speaker 1: of the Steelers. This is what they do. They drag
Speaker 1: you down to their level. They boring it up. Fields
Speaker 1: is three to zero. I'm taking Pittsburgh year with the
Speaker 1: one and a half. I think they're gonna go on
Speaker 1: the road, They're gonna play defense, they're gonna be boring,
Speaker 1: they're gonna control the football, and unfortunately, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a rough start to the year for the Colts, a
Speaker 1: team that I had high aspirations for, but they just
Speaker 1: don't look like they're in sync quite yet and I
Speaker 1: just don't know about that defense. That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough day for me. And I feel like every w
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers get a little stronger. Eric soon, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the Steelers in the spot. I don't
Speaker 2: really care that it's on the road. What's the big difference?
Speaker 2: And now I know the Steelers are dealing with a
Speaker 2: couple of injuries on their opensive line, so that is
Speaker 2: a little bit concerning, But it.
Speaker 1: Would be more concerning if India had a defense that I.
Speaker 2: Can Yeah, if the Colts had a defensive line that
Speaker 2: could stop the run. Yeah, they stopped the run against
Speaker 2: the Bears, who they just can't run the football, so
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter. So I think that this is
Speaker 2: the perfect spot for Arthur Smith in this offense to
Speaker 2: hum and you look at what's the pressure point. The
Speaker 2: thing with the Colts that's their biggest problems, specially offensively,
Speaker 2: is they can't They're not running enough plays right. That's
Speaker 2: why they're all suffering in fans. That's why you're not
Speaker 2: seeing any type of fireworks because Anthey Richardson can't get
Speaker 2: any type of rhythm. So that's why he's so inaccurate
Speaker 2: because he's not developing any type of rapport with his
Speaker 2: receivers because they never have the ball because the defense
Speaker 2: is getting killed by the run and they don't have
Speaker 2: the they don't have any time of possession. So it's
Speaker 2: really probably one of the worst draws when you're looking
Speaker 2: at the Colts and their offense and they're just team
Speaker 2: in general, to draw the Steelers on a three game
Speaker 2: winning streak even I mean, it doesn't matter what this
Speaker 2: game is being played. I think I agree it's minus
Speaker 2: one and a half is not enough.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, dude, I feel like this one
Speaker 1: is going to be two and a half by the
Speaker 1: time we get to Sunday. Like I think this one's
Speaker 1: gonna move, I would be getting it. This is my
Speaker 1: favorite early line. I want to jump on Pittsburgh right
Speaker 1: now because I think there's more people have time to
Speaker 1: marinate on it. They're gonna feel more confident with the Steelers,
Speaker 1: and I think this is going to change a little bit.
Speaker 1: Value is going to be gone. Minnesota undefeated three and
Speaker 1: oh going against the Green Bay Packers. This one's in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Malik willis Eater of worlds. Milik willis two
Speaker 1: and oh, what a time to be alive. Malik willis
Speaker 1: Sam Darnald, you know, just your normal NFO quarterbacks getting
Speaker 1: the job done here, Andy Dalton. I mean, what a
Speaker 1: crazy week it was. But maybe we get Jordan Love
Speaker 1: back for this one. That's going to impact this line.
Speaker 1: Minus two and a half. Green Bay is the favorite
Speaker 1: right now makes sense understandably so, especially with that potential looming.
Speaker 1: Forty four and a half is the total. Plus one
Speaker 1: sixteen on Minnesota now anything Andrew For me, the over
Speaker 1: is where I'm leaning a little bit here on this
Speaker 1: one because I do think if Love was practicing last week,
Speaker 1: it might stand a reason that he's gonna give it
Speaker 1: a go this week, and if so, that elevates this
Speaker 1: offense tremendously, even if he's limited. So I do think
Speaker 1: this is going to change the dynamic quite a bit
Speaker 1: of the green Bay Packers. Hopefully the MRI for Donald
Speaker 1: comes back clean. It seems like it's just precautionary. More
Speaker 1: on that to come. But what's your take on missus
Speaker 1: so to green Bay? Any early value for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it really depends on what side you're
Speaker 2: trying to lean on. You know, if you like green Bay,
Speaker 2: you want to back them at home, you should take
Speaker 2: it now. Before they announced, oh well, Jordan Love is
Speaker 2: going to start this game, and we're probably not going
Speaker 2: to know about that because we've seen, you know, Lafloor
Speaker 2: play pretty coy with announcing who he's going to play.
Speaker 2: He's had Jordan Love be questionable leading up to game time.
Speaker 2: So he's probably gonna say, oh, I don't know he's
Speaker 2: gonna play. Maybe he'll play, But if he's practicing in full,
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be pretty obvious that he's probably
Speaker 2: going to start this game. Now, I do agree Also,
Speaker 2: the value is kind of on the over there because
Speaker 2: it's suppressed because we're not sure if Love is still
Speaker 2: going to play. But at the same time, do I
Speaker 2: really want to take the over against the Vikings defense
Speaker 2: man That Vikings defense is for real, So that's my
Speaker 2: only hesitancy. But I admit that it is pretty low
Speaker 2: depending on, you know, how good we've seen these offices.
Speaker 2: But maybe because Jordan Love is coming back from an injury,
Speaker 2: maybe it's not a smash type of start. So I
Speaker 2: think for me, it's a matter of, hey, wait for
Speaker 2: Jordan Love to be announced, see money coming on the Packers,
Speaker 2: and then take the Vikings, you know, on the road
Speaker 2: as underdogs. So again, it really depends on who you
Speaker 2: like in this game to bet your timing.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars will play tonight and we'll see what they do.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, Houston Texans are two and one.
Speaker 1: They're at home. We don't know the health of Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon or Damian Pierce or what that backfield looks like.
Speaker 1: Going back home is the best medicine here Indivision matchup here.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Jacksonville starting a year zero to three
Speaker 1: and if so, Man, oh Man, maybe things just start
Speaker 1: kind of falling apart. Texan's coming off a bad loss.
Speaker 1: They're four and a half point favorites at home. Forty
Speaker 1: five and a half is the number you get plus
Speaker 1: one seventy on the Jacksonville Jaguars upset. Now, this is
Speaker 1: one of these dangerous, trappy kind of games for me, Andrew,
Speaker 1: what's your first instinct? Tell you any early value in
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 2: I don't like the value on Houston right now because
Speaker 2: I do think that we see a little bit more
Speaker 2: from Jacksonville when you look at what they've done the
Speaker 2: first two weeks of the season. I think they've kind
Speaker 2: of they've just run really really bad. I mean, they
Speaker 2: should have beat Miami straight up in week one, and
Speaker 2: in week two it was a rainy game. Turnovers kind
Speaker 2: of killed them. They weren't able to degenerate a lot
Speaker 2: of big plays. So I think the Jacksonville Jaguars are
Speaker 2: gonna show out a little bit. It's Buffalo. Maybe they
Speaker 2: don't win, but I think that's going to put more
Speaker 2: money on Jacksonville against Houston coming off a devastating loss.
Speaker 2: And we've talked about Houston how they're just not a
Speaker 2: good team against the spread, they just don't cover spread.
Speaker 2: So again with the number four and a half, kind
Speaker 2: of that in between a field goal on a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I like the value in Jackson because I think this
Speaker 2: line's going to move far into their favor after we
Speaker 2: watch them plan Monday.
Speaker 1: The Rams spilled a rabbit out of their hat. They're
Speaker 1: taking on the Chicago Bears this week. The Bears are
Speaker 1: one and a half point favorites. The total for this
Speaker 1: game is forty and a half. You got even money
Speaker 1: on the Rams to win this game, minus one twenty
Speaker 1: on the Bears. I mean, look, it's practically a pick them.
Speaker 1: I understand why. I think it's just chaotic, right, There's
Speaker 1: so many deficits here with the Rams, but yet they
Speaker 1: just came off this huge upset victory. The Bears have
Speaker 1: been kind of maligned a little bit, and they certainly
Speaker 1: showed a little bit more yesterday. So where are you
Speaker 1: at when it comes to the Rams and Bears? This one?
Speaker 1: My first instinct is just give me the Rams even money,
Speaker 1: give me the better coach, better quarterback, and more often
Speaker 1: than not, that's a.
Speaker 2: Better investment on the Rams. This was one of my
Speaker 2: favorite when I was looking at the early lines. I'm
Speaker 2: like Kimmi Rams, I was able to see Rams plus
Speaker 2: two and a half Rams plus one and a half.
Speaker 2: I don't care if they're playing in Soldier field. This
Speaker 2: is Sean McVay knows Shane Waldron okay, like he's underneath
Speaker 2: that tree. And unfortunately this this root is not sprouting.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately in Chicago, we do not like what we're seeing
Speaker 2: from Shane Waldron. This offense is a mess for they.
Speaker 1: Just realize he still has cole kmet Yes.
Speaker 2: It's it's not good. So again, we've seen this before
Speaker 2: where head coaches don't get fired, office of coordinators get
Speaker 2: fired if things don't start to change. So I don't
Speaker 2: I think Waldron's days may be numbered with Caleb Williams
Speaker 2: in this current. Again, he has upside, we can all
Speaker 2: see it. We can see the big plays, but we're
Speaker 2: also seeing just this chaos around him, and I don't
Speaker 2: think that gets solved. I guess I know the Rams
Speaker 2: defense is horrible, but I mean, Matthew keep betting him
Speaker 2: outstthew Stafford mat give me Matthe Staffers is a underdog.
Speaker 2: He's so gutsy, gonna make every throw go take every hit.
Speaker 2: Give me that guy as an underdog every single time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just can't let down too. You can't have
Speaker 1: a win like that against the forty nine ers and
Speaker 1: then go to Chicago and Lance heard like, you just
Speaker 1: can't do that. I don't think. I think show mcma
Speaker 1: to Discovery understand that.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. That's why again, when you're
Speaker 1: looking at these games where you're like, Okay, it's basically
Speaker 1: a picker and I go coach quarterback. Oh, they're both
Speaker 1: on one side. Okay, give me that side. So I'm
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the next one. Here on
Speaker 1: our list of games for week four, we just took
Speaker 1: care of Chicago, La. Let's talk about Tampa Bay and Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: So Philly's running out of wide receivers. Tampa Bay, what
Speaker 1: a disaster. You're at home and the Denver Broncos beat
Speaker 1: up on you. This one really just straight up pissed
Speaker 1: me off. You pissed me off, hated it, very upset
Speaker 1: about it. The Philadelphia Eagles minus two and a half favorites.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This feels fishy to me. Ericson on
Speaker 1: the road without aj Brown, with aut Davonta Smith, They're
Speaker 1: not gonna have either room for this game. Forty six
Speaker 1: and a half is the number. Plus one sixteen for Tampa.
Speaker 1: I might just go right to plus one sixteen for Tampa.
Speaker 1: That's where my eye goes. Where does yours go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly why we have so much
Speaker 2: faith that the Eagles should be favored in that game.
Speaker 2: That's kind of my first inclination looking at this again.
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. Yes, they laid an egg against Bonix and
Speaker 2: the de But some guys you just play bad gamest.
Speaker 2: Some of that happens. Suffists can be fluky, you know,
Speaker 2: they were. The Buccaneers were feeling themselves after they had
Speaker 2: that big win against the Detroit Lions and then again
Speaker 2: come out against an inferior opponent and then they just
Speaker 2: kind of like lay an egg. So for me, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Eagles are kind of the walking wounded a little
Speaker 2: bit here, and Baker Mayfield again very upset after that game.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get the edge back here. You
Speaker 2: don't have two concerns about Oh, Sirtain's gonna takeway. Mike
Speaker 2: Evant like mc evan's could have a Matt Monster game here.
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin still gonna be involved. So and again I
Speaker 2: think with Buccaneers two, they didn't have Vitavea in this
Speaker 2: last game, like he's one of their defensive leaders. In
Speaker 2: that interior you saw it come up big where the
Speaker 2: Broncos were able to protect Bonix, there weren't there was
Speaker 2: in any interior pressure. So I like the Buccaneers here
Speaker 2: at home plus two and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: to the next one, the Bengals. We'll see what the
Speaker 1: Bengals do tonight. But Carolina is hosting Cincinnati. They are
Speaker 1: five and a half point underdogs at home. Now, Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton all of a sudden made this team relevant for
Speaker 1: a moment, forty four and a half is the number
Speaker 1: plus two fifteen. Look, I know it was fun. The
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals should go handle their business. However, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of with Carolina and the points here. I also feel
Speaker 1: like depending on what Cincinnati shows up tonight, if Cincinnati
Speaker 1: blows out the Commanders, this line's gonna move to six
Speaker 1: and a half. So I would actually wait on this one.
Speaker 1: If you're watching the show on Monday, let's wait and see.
Speaker 1: If that doesn't happen at we'll stay five. I'm so
Speaker 1: comfortable with the five and a half, but I think
Speaker 1: this one will move a full point if Cincinnati just
Speaker 1: whoops on the Commanders tonight. What are your thoughts? What's
Speaker 1: the outlook for you?
Speaker 2: No, I think there you're spot on with that because
Speaker 2: I expect the Bengals to destroy the Washington Commanders in
Speaker 2: that defense. But then I don't expect them to then
Speaker 2: cover another large spread as a touchdown favorite on the road,
Speaker 2: you know, and back to back weeks. Again, they're playing
Speaker 2: at home tonight, but I don't expect them to have
Speaker 2: a monster game back to back weeks, so especially on
Speaker 2: a short week. So yeah, I think that you gotta
Speaker 2: wait and take the Carolina Pants and the line moves
Speaker 2: to plus six and a half.
Speaker 1: Okay, moving on to the next one. Here, the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos get a win. The New York Jets get a win.
Speaker 1: The Jets are eight point favorites at home against the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. Thirty eight and a half is the number
Speaker 1: plus three ten for the Denver Broncos, So Bonnicks random mock. Look,
Speaker 1: we saw the Jets defense handle the Patriots offense pretty well.
Speaker 1: I have to imagine at home with extra rest, we
Speaker 1: saw that two headed monster in the backfield of Braylan
Speaker 1: Allen and Breese Hall like. Things look pretty good. Here
Speaker 1: for the Jets, they looked excellent. I know Denver kind
Speaker 1: of pulled out there. Could they do it two weeks
Speaker 1: in a row? I say no, But man eight is
Speaker 1: a lot for me to get to.
Speaker 2: It is, but we also have a little bit of
Speaker 2: revenge with Nathaniel Hacket.
Speaker 1: Being a awful person at his job. He was the
Speaker 1: worst coach I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm not touching this game. I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Minus eight is a lot and bone and in the
Speaker 2: Broncs I've shown that they're not going to go down quietly,
Speaker 2: like they're gonna chuck the ball and try to get
Speaker 2: back in the game no matter what, which I don't like.
Speaker 2: And at least they again, unlike the Patriots, they do
Speaker 2: have at least some personnel to do that, like they can.
Speaker 2: They've been playing from behind all season, right so except
Speaker 2: for the last week, so I think that they can
Speaker 2: still kind of keep things tight. And yet eight it's
Speaker 2: too much for me. So I'm just gonna probably just
Speaker 2: shy away. Keep me the under.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Yeah, under is probably the best bet.
Speaker 1: I think, maybe just individual self, I say away from
Speaker 1: this game. This game bothers me. Washington Arizona again. I
Speaker 1: want to see what Washington does tonight. I don't have
Speaker 1: a full take on this game quite yet. Five is
Speaker 1: the number here where Arizona's favorite at home. Forty nine
Speaker 1: and a half is the total plus one ninety five
Speaker 1: for the Washington commanders of the money line ericson look.
Speaker 1: I think Arizona is another one of these work in
Speaker 1: progress teams. This is an opportunity where they're getting a
Speaker 1: lesser opponent at home. You know, they've had to play
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, They've had to play the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: like they've had that schedule stack. This feels like an
Speaker 1: Arizona win. But at the same time, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm there with the five yet. Where are you
Speaker 1: at with this one?
Speaker 2: So actually, like the under in this game. I know
Speaker 2: that the Commander deference is horrible, but it's a forty
Speaker 2: nine and a half, right, It's a number, massive number.
Speaker 2: For Again, we're talking about how offenses are down and
Speaker 2: scoring and this is I think the largest over under,
Speaker 2: or maybe one of the largest over over unders on
Speaker 2: this week four slates. So for me, again, like I
Speaker 2: don't know how great this Commander's offense really is, Like
Speaker 2: they have very questionable offensive line. Yes, Jane Daniel is fun,
Speaker 2: he runs around, but it's not like he's orchestrating drives
Speaker 2: that are generating a ton of touchdowns. I mean, they
Speaker 2: beat the Giants by kicking field goals, right, so they're
Speaker 2: not converting to a lot of touchdowns. So again, I
Speaker 2: think that this game is gonna be not as high scoring. Again,
Speaker 2: just going back to the fact that scoring is down
Speaker 2: overall at forty nine and a half, I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of gotta bet against that. And like I think Cardinals
Speaker 2: take care of business, but I'll take the under.
Speaker 1: Speaking of unders, Vingo, Patriots, they played to the under
Speaker 1: on Thursday, told you so if you hope you're watching
Speaker 1: that Thursday Night Football stuff, man, I got a lot
Speaker 1: to live up to too. Thursday Night Football nailed the
Speaker 1: two leg parlay of that one on the show with
Speaker 1: the anytime touchdowns score for Breze Hall and the under
Speaker 1: in the game three for three on last week's Monday
Speaker 1: Night Bets. I don't know, maybe I should just retire ericson.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like maybe maybe this is it. This
Speaker 1: is missus as good as it's gonna get. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my best to repeat this tire on top. Thank you, folks.
Speaker 1: Good night, Patriots. Forty nine ers. The forty nine ers
Speaker 1: are ten and a half point favorites in this game.
Speaker 1: Forty and a half is the number the Patriots for
Speaker 1: upset is plus four forty. I mean, look, the Patriots
Speaker 1: are no good and I think you and I both
Speaker 1: recognize that offensive line is dreadful. But we also thought
Speaker 1: the Rams offensive line was dreadful. The thing they don't
Speaker 1: have is they don't have Stafford. They don't have McVeigh.
Speaker 1: What they are getting is a San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 1: er team at home is going to be pissed off.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be an ugly situation. Ten is
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm staying away from this one. I got
Speaker 1: no love for this game. Ken New England do its
Speaker 1: part in this game? Probably not? So maybe the under
Speaker 1: is my best notion for this. This feels like a
Speaker 1: I don't know, twenty seven to ten kind of a deal,
Speaker 1: like maybe more what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'd kind of like the over in this game.
Speaker 1: Well, but what's that score? And I guess here's the question.
Speaker 1: Maybe I look for the team total of the Patriots
Speaker 1: and bet the under on whatever that is. Like maybe
Speaker 1: that's where I live, and I just don't even muck
Speaker 1: around with them the combined total because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of variants here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't like ten and a half
Speaker 2: points at home against any team. Again, this is the NFL, right,
Speaker 2: that's hard to cover that spread. But we've seen the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers team at home be a death star
Speaker 2: and just totally blow teams. And you said they just
Speaker 2: blew that lead against the Rams. That's a horrible loss.
Speaker 2: So how do you lick your wounds as you come
Speaker 2: back and try the Patriots?
Speaker 1: So what's the team total? In your mind? If you
Speaker 1: were setting it for the forty nine ers, what would
Speaker 1: that number be? Thirty five and a half?
Speaker 2: Thirty five and a half?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, is that too much my
Speaker 1: being being glib?
Speaker 2: You don't. I mean that's why I just like the
Speaker 2: game over right, I mean the Patriots again, turnovers is
Speaker 2: a thing. They can generate turnovers on defense, but it
Speaker 2: also does depends like how many of the fort nine
Speaker 2: ers weapons come back? Do you get George Kittle back
Speaker 2: in this game? So I don't know. Maybe the again,
Speaker 2: I have to probably lick a little deeper again because
Speaker 2: I have to watch this game as a Patriots fan.
Speaker 2: I know they're not going to win. So you know
Speaker 2: how I do? I bleed the Blue White?
Speaker 1: I do too, but I don't have to watch them
Speaker 1: bleed they I'm just gonna be bleeding. You know, there's
Speaker 1: other games to be watching. It's one thing of a standalone.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's a standalone, But it's four o'clock. I
Speaker 1: could be watching things like the Cleveland Browns and the Raiders.
Speaker 2: I watch the Dallas Cowboys, though.
Speaker 1: I'm watching them on Thursday night. So Cleveland Vegas, here
Speaker 1: you go, U one and a half point underdogs. The
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders are god. The Raiders are infuriating. You
Speaker 1: beat the Ravens at home, and then you get in
Speaker 1: their building and then you get destroyed by the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panth's in your own building. I got nothing, I got nothing.
Speaker 1: Erickson thirty seven and a half minus one fifteen on
Speaker 1: the money line for the given Browns, minus one of
Speaker 1: five for the Vegas Raiders. I'm running away from this game.
Speaker 1: This game is a hot mess to me. I want
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. This week, I'm very picky
Speaker 1: Week four, very picky.
Speaker 2: I like the under and I like the Browns. I
Speaker 2: like the Browns on the road as favorites because Max
Speaker 2: Crosby's dealing with an injury and he is the heart
Speaker 2: and soul of that defense. And if he's one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: then the Raiders don't have a chance, right because he's
Speaker 2: their best He is their best player, no doubt about it,
Speaker 2: in my opinion. Especially he's the one that is the
Speaker 2: engine to that defense. So if they don't have him,
Speaker 2: especially with the biggest weakness of the Browns is pass protection.
Speaker 2: They should get those tackles back. I believe that Jack
Speaker 2: Conklin and Jedrick Willis are still trying to get back
Speaker 2: after missing so much time. Those guys are healthy. But
Speaker 2: Cleveland is this up and down team. Right, one week
Speaker 2: they play horrible and next week they play good, next
Speaker 2: week the horrible. So I will back Cleveland here as
Speaker 2: road favorites.
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Speaker 1: bet on this next game, Andrew. It's the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs come off all lucky. Victory at the end there, boy,
Speaker 1: they get hose on that call. The Atlanta Falcons ooh,
Speaker 1: terrible call. At the end of that game, Chiefs get
Speaker 1: a victory. They're nine and a half point favorites on
Speaker 1: the road against the Chargers. Herbert's health in question. Thirty
Speaker 1: nine is the number for this game? Again, very heavy
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs plus three twenty on the money line
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. Like that, that's the value here is
Speaker 1: the Chargers just to pull off a freaky shop seat.
Speaker 1: That's the value of this game. The question is do
Speaker 1: I want to bet on it? I think the answer
Speaker 1: is no.
Speaker 2: So it's interesting because you look at the Chiefs right
Speaker 2: and what they've done. You know, how close are they
Speaker 2: to being an zero to three team? Very actually looks washed,
Speaker 2: Kelsey looks washed. The backfield is a mess. I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they look disfunction on offense, right, and you think about
Speaker 2: what's andy REI They're going to figure it out, but
Speaker 2: holy we run around and yes, again, this isn't their
Speaker 2: time to shine right there. We don't care about the
Speaker 2: regular season. We just want to get to the playoffs
Speaker 2: and win the Super Bowl, right, and we know they're
Speaker 2: going to get to the playoffs potentially be the number
Speaker 2: one seeds, which as they beat other AFC powerhouses. So yes,
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think the the value is
Speaker 2: on the Chargers. Now. Is just Herbert going to playing
Speaker 2: this game? We we don't know. But my point is
Speaker 2: if the Chargers beat the Chiefs, it's not because of
Speaker 2: their quarterback play. It's because they run the football on
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Like that's how they win this game. So
Speaker 2: I would wait, honestly and be like, oh, Herbert's out, Okay,
Speaker 2: the line moves more on the Chiefs because it's Taylor
Speaker 2: Heinike whatever, it doesn't matter, because don't think justin Herbert's
Speaker 2: gonna be the reason why they win or lose this game.
Speaker 2: It's going to be Dobbins, Yeah, east to Stick Taylor.
Speaker 2: I think Taylor Heinekee might actually, I mean Stick was
Speaker 2: horrible in the preseason. I think that's why they went
Speaker 2: and so il the week.
Speaker 1: You take the Chargers and the Patriots on the money lining,
Speaker 1: which is chaos.
Speaker 2: Oh my dude, that's the best way to enjoy the
Speaker 2: afternoon slate, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you're probably lighting your money on fire,
Speaker 1: but like I mean, you can get on a favorite
Speaker 1: and light your money on fire that way, don't you do?
Speaker 1: You know you get those bonus bets right the DraftKings
Speaker 1: gives you.
Speaker 2: The bonus a touchdown bets.
Speaker 1: You take the bonus bet, you throw it on the
Speaker 1: Chargers this week, and you watch it and you see, hey,
Speaker 1: that's some fun. It was found money anyway. Buffalo Baltimore
Speaker 1: are next one on our list here. The Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: are two and a half point favorites at home. Forty
Speaker 1: four and a half is the number plus one fifteen
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills to win this one. Get so,
Speaker 1: Ravens looks great. Ravens are a good team. Ravens, I
Speaker 1: think just you know, got off to a weird, wacky start.
Speaker 1: This is exactly what they needed, a huge win in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be right here. I'm taking
Speaker 1: Baltimore with the points here at minus two and a half.
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore is a better football team than the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. I don't care what the Bills do or
Speaker 1: don't do on Monday Night. I think there's early value
Speaker 1: in this one. If you think Buffalo is going to
Speaker 1: trounce Jacksonville and you think this one shrinks to one
Speaker 1: and a half, then you would wait on it and
Speaker 1: they don't bet it now. But Andrew, what's your approach
Speaker 1: to Bill's Ravens?
Speaker 2: So, like I said, I think Jacksonville is going to
Speaker 2: be plucky in this matchup against the Bills, So I
Speaker 2: think that you're gonna get some value waiting for So
Speaker 2: I like the Buffalo side here because I get Josh
Speaker 2: Allen's an underdog, right that when I get bet on
Speaker 2: elite quarterbacks as underdogs again with the Eagles and Saints, right,
Speaker 2: it was Jalen Hurts as an underdog. Right last week,
Speaker 2: you know, the Ravens open up as underdogs and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm gonna bet Lamar jackson as an underdog. Great,
Speaker 2: I feel great about it. When Josh Allen played the Dolphins,
Speaker 2: he was an underdog and they won out right. So
Speaker 2: when I get these elite quarterbacks as underdogs, that's the
Speaker 2: approach I want to go with. So I like Josh
Speaker 2: Allen and the Bills here, But like I said, I
Speaker 2: think that the value is going to move in the
Speaker 2: favor of the Bills after they play Jacksonville. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna wait on this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, there you go. Let's go to Tennessee Miami.
Speaker 1: Miami's defense is dreadful. I think you do get Tyler
Speaker 1: Huntley in this game, I really do. I think you
Speaker 1: saw enough. Thomson just kids. He's also he also got hurt,
Speaker 1: so I mean injury was not whatever. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: even if he wasn't hurt. I don't care. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see it again. Tennessee Titans are zero and three.
Speaker 1: Will Evis is terrible. They just lost them. Elie Willis.
Speaker 1: There's lots of Lague Willis that are building. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know, good on lafloor. Lafleur must be loving life.
Speaker 1: He's the head.
Speaker 2: He has to be winning coach of the year, right.
Speaker 1: He's not. Harbor is the number one guy, Harbaugh Mcdonaldgers.
Speaker 1: Going into yesterday, it was I don't know today. Going
Speaker 1: into yesterday, it was Harball, it was McDonald, and it
Speaker 1: was Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 2: That's a good Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 2: before should be up there though, I mean over McDonald.
Speaker 2: McDonald has played crappy teams all year, okay three and
Speaker 2: gets bo Nicks, Pip Patriots and Skyler Thomps the year.
Speaker 2: Here you go, Okay, coach the year as a job. Well,
Speaker 2: they're playing the lines this week. I guarantee those odds
Speaker 2: are gonna go way down.
Speaker 1: Dolphins at home plus one and a half underdogs. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't get there. Give me the points with Miami.
Speaker 1: Thirty seven and a half is the number. Uh minus
Speaker 1: won twelve for the Tennessee Titans on the money line,
Speaker 1: minus one o five on the Miami Dolphins. Uh So
Speaker 1: you know what, actually, you know it's this is easy.
Speaker 1: I'm on the Miami side of this one. I think
Speaker 1: things come around. By the way, as we're doing the show,
Speaker 1: update on Justin, Herber reaggravated his high ankle sprain. Extras
Speaker 1: came back negative. Herbert mentioned will be monitored throughout the week,
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that goes. Again, hold your breath
Speaker 1: and hope, but I don't think even more reason watch
Speaker 1: that number go to plus four hundred.
Speaker 2: Early take here, he's not gonna play because again Harbaugh
Speaker 2: doesn't need Justin.
Speaker 1: Well, then I can't use my bonus bet. I can't
Speaker 1: do it. I can't use my bonus bets if he
Speaker 1: doesn't play. I can't do that. So waste.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna take the Chargers to win with Taylor
Speaker 2: Ronik against the Chiefs. Didn't the Chiefs lose to eight
Speaker 2: and O'Connell last year at home.
Speaker 1: If they go to if it goes to plus five hundred,
Speaker 1: then I might have no choice. I might have to
Speaker 1: take my dude.
Speaker 2: I mean, we see so much crazy stuff happen.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying it. That's why I'm saying it.
Speaker 1: I think it's early, It's only Monday, Andrew Thursday shows
Speaker 1: a few days away. It might be the upset special
Speaker 1: the week. I'm just saying it's a tease. We'll see
Speaker 1: how it could. Back to Miami and Tennessee. I'm on
Speaker 1: Miami in this game. I just am like, I know,
Speaker 1: was terrible. They were on the road. I get it.
Speaker 1: It's like I think is a good quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: if we've shown him with the Baltimore Ravens, you've give
Speaker 1: him weapons, he'll be Okay. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that I was watching that game closely
Speaker 2: obviously because I like the Dolphins and they were actually
Speaker 2: they were like the Seahawks did not put them away
Speaker 2: till very.
Speaker 1: But the defense just sucks the problems. I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Levis can't take advantage of the defense, and
Speaker 2: you look at what Miami can do offensively. I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody played bad in that game. Like Tyror Hill was
Speaker 2: dropping passes. They were involving like these backup tight ends
Speaker 2: alec Ingold out of the backfield seeing a bunch of targets.
Speaker 2: I had no idea like that. I didn't think it
Speaker 2: was a good game plan back at home against the
Speaker 2: tight ends who just got ripped up by Malik Willis.
Speaker 2: Of all quarterbacks, I think McDaniel is able to kind
Speaker 2: of get the ship right on offense, especially you know,
Speaker 2: if they move with Tyler Huntley, he can do a
Speaker 2: little bit more. Again, a Pro Bowl quarterback. So I
Speaker 2: like Dolphins here as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just give me Dolphins straight up money line minus
Speaker 1: one ten. It's the best value I can find. Just
Speaker 1: just just let me have it, all right, Let's get
Speaker 1: to the last one here. Again, these are Monday night
Speaker 1: games too, So Tennessee Miami Monday Night. Congratulations America. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you're going to be getting another Monday night
Speaker 1: football game at eight to fifteen star. The other one
Speaker 1: starts at seven thirty Seattle in Detroit. Now this one's
Speaker 1: more interesting. We're are we gonna finally get to find
Speaker 1: out who Seattle is? Maybe they're four and a half
Speaker 1: point underdogs on the road in Detroit. Forty eight and
Speaker 1: a half is the number plus one seventy for the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. I like Seattle with the points here, Andrew,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: I think that we're gonna see Seattle get exposed.
Speaker 1: Here gay on opposite ends, this is gonna be fun
Speaker 1: Monday night. I mean, the text chain is back, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna be back in texted on Monday night. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be I.
Speaker 2: Mean I mentioned before they haven't played a legitimate offense
Speaker 2: and when they were going to their quarterback got hurt.
Speaker 2: They played Scott de Troit really.
Speaker 1: Blown the doors. Detroit's my Super Bowl pick from the NFC.
Speaker 1: They've been fine, but they haven't, like to me, asserted
Speaker 1: their dominance yet. Where I'm looking, I'm like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. I want to see, Like I think.
Speaker 2: That this is this is a statement game. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think this is going to be an eye opener for
Speaker 2: both sides and talk about how hey, oh, these are
Speaker 2: two NFC powerhouses. Seattle's undefeated. Yeah, well they're not gonna
Speaker 2: undefeated after this game.
Speaker 1: You know what I might have to do if I'm
Speaker 1: buying into this narrative, I might have to buy into
Speaker 1: it all the way. If I think Seattle has a
Speaker 1: shot this game, and I do, this might be the
Speaker 1: time to jump on the line for them for the
Speaker 1: NFC West, because then there'll be four oh and then
Speaker 1: when our patriots take it to the forty nine, we'll
Speaker 1: see what I happened. All jokes aside, though, all jokes aside.
Speaker 1: Seattle again, they can only play who's in front of them.
Speaker 1: Their schedule is not as bad as some other teams.
Speaker 2: Well, they haven't played any of their NFC rest team
Speaker 2: they haven't.
Speaker 1: But the thing is all their NFC rivals right now,
Speaker 1: are we? You know, the Rams are weak and the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers a week they're both at their weakest
Speaker 1: point in terms of health. Like those games are coming up.
Speaker 1: Be really interesting to see what happens here. So maybe
Speaker 1: Seattle finally gets that corrective moment. Maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think either way, the best bet here is to
Speaker 1: bet on Seattle at least covering the point. Maybe not
Speaker 1: winning outright, but covering the points. But we love to
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