WEBVTT - Tech News: Facebook's Very Bad Week

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer here at iHeart Radio and a

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<v Speaker 1>love all things tech. It is time for the tech

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<v Speaker 1>news for Tuesday, October twelfth. One. Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week was a tough one for Facebook, to put

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<v Speaker 1>it lightly, with a whistleblower appearing before Congress and testifying

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<v Speaker 1>that her former employer knowingly engaged in practices that were

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<v Speaker 1>harmful to its users and two entire countries. As it

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<v Speaker 1>would turn out, while Facebook went into damage control last week,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the measures that were taken by PR spokespeople

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<v Speaker 1>in an attempt to kind of deflect or to defend

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<v Speaker 1>themselves ended up rubbing other current and former employees a

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook the wrong way. One person who had already been

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<v Speaker 1>critical of the company is Sophie Young. She used to

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<v Speaker 1>work as a data scientist for Facebook. Well. She first

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<v Speaker 1>came forward with concerns about Facebook last year, and she

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<v Speaker 1>even published a full blog post that contained her concerns,

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<v Speaker 1>like she wrote this very long farewell message to Facebook employees,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she also posted it to her own website.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook then subsequently sent a takedown notice to the the

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<v Speaker 1>administrator for the website itself, so it got taken down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty bad anyway. Jiang has now said she's willing

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<v Speaker 1>to testify in front of Congress as well. She has

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<v Speaker 1>said that she sent potentially incriminating documents regarding Facebook practices

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<v Speaker 1>to a US law enforcement agency. Other people have also

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<v Speaker 1>shown support for investigations into face Book, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>condemning the company's tactics of trying to dismiss criticisms by

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<v Speaker 1>questioning the credentials of the whistleblowers. My guess is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's likely going to be another tough week for Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>Sticking with Facebook, I want to talk about Louis Barclay.

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<v Speaker 1>Barclay is an app developer from the UK app and

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<v Speaker 1>software developer, and he created a browser extension specifically to

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<v Speaker 1>use on Facebook called Unfollow Everything, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>does exactly what it says on the tin, as they

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<v Speaker 1>say across the pond. A user activating unfollow Everything would

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<v Speaker 1>see that they had unfollowed every single friend and every

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<v Speaker 1>single page that they had previously followed on Facebook. So

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<v Speaker 1>they would unfollow everything and you could still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>connect to people on Facebook, but you unfollowed them, you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to use other methods, And um, it is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because it would essentially mean that your news feed

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<v Speaker 1>would be blank except for stuff that maybe you had posted.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming I don't know. I haven't actually seen pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of what this looked like when it was an action,

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<v Speaker 1>but it it's it confuses me a little, only in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense of I don't know what it would look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it just be your posts? Would it become the

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<v Speaker 1>true narcissists Facebook? I don't know. His extension, however, got

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<v Speaker 1>the attention of researchers in Switzerland who wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>what impact there might be on this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Would would there be an impact on happiness for users

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<v Speaker 1>who were still on Facebook but no longer had a

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<v Speaker 1>real news feed. They also wanted to see what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of impact it might have on the amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>that users typically would spend on the platform. And I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly wonder really what that experience is like. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>would be like Facebook would become essentially your photo album

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe a journaling exercise. If you were posting and

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<v Speaker 1>you were the only one posting there. Any ways, you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine Facebook was not happy about any of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So the company booted Barclay off Facebook as well as

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and banned him from ever having an account with

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<v Speaker 1>either of those now. The article I read on Business

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<v Speaker 1>Insider didn't indicate whether Facebook has also banned him from WhatsApp,

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<v Speaker 1>the messaging app, but Barkley did say that he had

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<v Speaker 1>been on the platform for about fifteen years and you

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<v Speaker 1>used it a lot to stay in touch with friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family, so this has had an impact on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook says that Barclay's browser extension violates Facebook's terms of Service,

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<v Speaker 1>which in parts says that users and developers are not

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<v Speaker 1>not to do anything that would interfere with the intended

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<v Speaker 1>operation of Facebook. And you know, Barklay said the tool

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<v Speaker 1>had only been downloaded a few thousand times. The whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>to me is really interesting. I wonder how many people

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<v Speaker 1>would actually use a tool like this, and whether they

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<v Speaker 1>would continue to use it or if they would just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, turn it off after a it. I get

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<v Speaker 1>why Facebook is kind of going nuclear because the entire

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<v Speaker 1>revenue model for Facebook depends upon ads being served up

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<v Speaker 1>in the news feed and keeping folks on the platform

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as possible to sell as many things

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, right to serve up as many ads as

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<v Speaker 1>possible and rack up the big bucks. But if there's

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<v Speaker 1>no news feed, then people would likely spend way less

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<v Speaker 1>time on the platform and Facebook would make way less money.

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<v Speaker 1>Barclay is kind of without options here. He lives in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, and that means that if he took Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>to court over the matter, and if he lost, he

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<v Speaker 1>would be liable to pay Facebook's court costs. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook's a company with billions of dollars. Facebook could even

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<v Speaker 1>if they fought this in a way where they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to win, they could really drain Barclay's resources. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they did win and they really drew this out

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a very long court battle, it could

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<v Speaker 1>bankrupt him. So he's kind of resigned himself to being

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook free. He sounds like he's both a little sad

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but also kind of relieved because he had

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<v Speaker 1>said that he was trying to cut back for a

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<v Speaker 1>while now and now he has no choice but to

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<v Speaker 1>go cold turkey. We usually hear about successful hacker attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>It is fairly rare when we hear about a hacker

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<v Speaker 1>attack that was unsuccessful, that had been defeated, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have a report like that. Now, Microsoft says that it's

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<v Speaker 1>Azure Cloud service was able to mitigate a massive distributed

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<v Speaker 1>denial of service ord DOS attack in late August of

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Now, let's explain what that means. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start first with a denial of service or DOS attack,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's that's our basic unit here. That's an attack

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<v Speaker 1>where someone tries to overwhelm a specific targeted server or

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<v Speaker 1>system on the Internet, typically by sending tons of messages

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<v Speaker 1>to that system. And I often use a specific analogy here.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine that you live in a house. The house

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<v Speaker 1>has a front door with a doorbell, and part of

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<v Speaker 1>the condition of you living in this house is that

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<v Speaker 1>if someone rings that doorbell, you have to answer the door.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter what else is going on. If the

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<v Speaker 1>doorbell rings, you've got to go answer it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>someone is starting to ring your doorbell and then run away.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though you know that there is a very

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<v Speaker 1>good chance that you're going to go to the door

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<v Speaker 1>and open it and no one's gonna be there, you

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<v Speaker 1>still have to answer it. You're not allowed to ignore it.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be really hard to get anything else done.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone was continuously ringing your doorbell and running away. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>denial of service attack is kind of similar. The attacker

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<v Speaker 1>is directing messages to a targeted server, and the server

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to answer these messages. But those messages are

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<v Speaker 1>coming in thick and fast, as you might say, and

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<v Speaker 1>soon the server can't do anything at all. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed by these incoming messages. It might even crash the server.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that's often the goal. If it's not to

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<v Speaker 1>just gum it up, it's to bring it down entirely. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a distributed denial of service attack is the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but on a much bigger scale. Typically, hackers will first

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<v Speaker 1>use malware to infect as many computers as they possibly

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<v Speaker 1>can to get sort of backdoor access to these computers

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<v Speaker 1>and have them join what's called a bot net or

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes called a zombie network. So the infected computers are

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<v Speaker 1>the zombie army, and the hacker can use this army

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<v Speaker 1>to direct messages to this targeted server. Now, instead of

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<v Speaker 1>one machine just trying to overwhelm a target, you could

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<v Speaker 1>be talking tens of thousands, like seventy thousand computers. Is

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<v Speaker 1>not unheard of for this sort of thing. For this reason,

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<v Speaker 1>we often describe the magnitude of DIDOS attacks and how

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<v Speaker 1>much data is being sent toward a target. In this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a whopping two point for terra bytes per second.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the largest DIDAS attack on record by volume. A

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<v Speaker 1>terabyte is a trillion bytes, so a gigabyte is a

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<v Speaker 1>billion bytes. Terabyte is a trillion bites. This was two

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<v Speaker 1>point four terabytes per second. Microsoft says Azure detected the

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<v Speaker 1>flood of traffic and was able to mitigate it to

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<v Speaker 1>hold it back so that the targeted server didn't get overwhelmed,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty impressive. Microsoft did not identify the target,

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<v Speaker 1>but only said it was located in Europe. Amazon has

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<v Speaker 1>become the latest company to back off of an official

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<v Speaker 1>return to the office plan for their corporate employees. Like

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<v Speaker 1>several other big tech companies, Amazon originally hoped to be

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<v Speaker 1>back in the office this year, but had pushed back

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<v Speaker 1>to a plan that would see corporate employees returned to

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<v Speaker 1>at least three days a week in the office by

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<v Speaker 1>January two. Now, the company has sent out another message

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<v Speaker 1>saying employees will not have to return to the office

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<v Speaker 1>in the new year. Rather, team leaders will make decisions

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<v Speaker 1>on a team by team basis as to whether people

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<v Speaker 1>need to return or not. Uh, some people will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to work remotely indefinitely. In addition, employees will still

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<v Speaker 1>be able to work for up to four weeks in

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<v Speaker 1>any location within their home country, but they should spend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year somewhere that would allow them

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<v Speaker 1>to attend, say, an in person meeting, given a day's notice.

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<v Speaker 1>In the ongoing battle between Apple and Epic Games, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>is now seeking an appeal to the court ruling that

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<v Speaker 1>requires Apple to allow app developers and alternative payment option

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<v Speaker 1>and not just go through Apple's own in app system.

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<v Speaker 1>While seeking the appeal, Apple has asked for a stay

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<v Speaker 1>on the injunction that would otherwise require them to follow

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<v Speaker 1>the court order. So essentially, they're saying, until we've actually

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<v Speaker 1>settled this matter for good, we don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>to change stuff. And from that perspective, it makes kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sense, right if Apple were to change things and

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<v Speaker 1>then subsequently when their court appeal reversing that change after implementing,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a messy thing at best. Apple claims

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<v Speaker 1>that allowing developers to use their own payment systems could

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<v Speaker 1>lead to incorporation of other stuff like external links and

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<v Speaker 1>potentially bring risks to Apple users. We think of the children.

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<v Speaker 1>So the argument here is that this could potentially lead

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<v Speaker 1>to security risks, and it's hard to argue against that.

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly, I don't think that's what Apple's main concern is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think their main concern is that they take a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen to thirty cut out of in app purchases, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you allow for alternative payment systems, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>say goodbye to that kind of revenue. But then Apple

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<v Speaker 1>has lots of security concerns to think about. Two like

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<v Speaker 1>how a company is like n s, a group have

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<v Speaker 1>targeted eye message to create zero click attacks that turned

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<v Speaker 1>phones into spy devices. Apple did subsequently patch out certain vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>My point being that you know, there are security concerns

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<v Speaker 1>that have nothing to do with the apps being developed

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<v Speaker 1>by third parties. When you really dig into this case,

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<v Speaker 1>no one looks super awesome in the full light. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm more on the developer side on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that Apple and Google to have a real

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<v Speaker 1>stranglehold that can hurt developers. At the same time, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some legit arguments to make for a streamlined, trustworthy payment system.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a few more stories to go through before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to that. Let's take a quick break. So

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<v Speaker 1>before the break, we were talking about Apple and Epic,

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<v Speaker 1>and a large part of that court argument is about

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<v Speaker 1>anti competitiveness and whether companies like Apple and Google are

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<v Speaker 1>being anti competitive with demanding developers use their in app purchasing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of anti competitive issues, we've got a different story

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<v Speaker 1>that falls into that category. And Video has run into

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<v Speaker 1>a speed bump in its quest to acquire the chip

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<v Speaker 1>design company ARM. Now, if you listen to my episodes

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<v Speaker 1>about ARM, that's a r M, you know that's a

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<v Speaker 1>company that's based in the UK. And Video has a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four billion dollar acquisition deal to bring ARM into

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<v Speaker 1>the company fold. But this move has raised some concerns,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of those originate in the UK itself. ARM

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<v Speaker 1>is an important company in the UK, and there have

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<v Speaker 1>even been some questions raised as to whether an acquisition

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<v Speaker 1>by a foreign company, because in Video is based out

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, could constitute a matter of national security.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there are the questions about competitiveness. ARM creates chip

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<v Speaker 1>designs and then issues licenses to manufacturing companies. So a

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<v Speaker 1>chip manufacturing company makes a deal with ARM and gets

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<v Speaker 1>the design for a specific type of processor and then

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<v Speaker 1>they go and make it. Now, the fear is that

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<v Speaker 1>if in Vidia, which also makes chips, acquires ARM, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in Video would say no more of doing that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe in Video would prevent ARM from licensing designs to

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<v Speaker 1>in videos competitors. The EU plans and antitrust investigation to

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<v Speaker 1>look into the matter further. And this does not mean

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<v Speaker 1>that the acquisition is off the table, but it could

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<v Speaker 1>take a bit longer than in Video was hoping for.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, many school systems in the United States shifted

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<v Speaker 1>to a distance learning model due to the pandemic. However,

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<v Speaker 1>that meant that, you know, kids needed access to computers

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<v Speaker 1>in order to participate in class, and not everyone comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a family where that's a possibility. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>real digital divide in the United States, so numerous programs

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<v Speaker 1>popped up to provide hardware to students. Now, a research

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<v Speaker 1>paper from the Center for Democracy and Technology shows that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these computers contained monitoring software on them

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<v Speaker 1>that logged student activities on these computers. Essentially, many computers

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<v Speaker 1>come loaded with spyware, and it gives schools the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to see what students are doing on those computers. This

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<v Speaker 1>opens up a pretty difficult series of topics. So the

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<v Speaker 1>argument to support this initiative says that students are vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>and monitoring could allow school systems to detect a problem

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<v Speaker 1>early on and potentially address it before it gets worse.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, a student writing about you know, self harm

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<v Speaker 1>might need counseling to help them, or someone who's engaging

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<v Speaker 1>in some form of online bullying might similarly need someone

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<v Speaker 1>to step in and intervene and help that person before

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<v Speaker 1>that gets worse. On the other hand, the argument against

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<v Speaker 1>this points out that this becomes a surveillance state and

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<v Speaker 1>it places an unhealthy burden of responsibility on teachers who

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<v Speaker 1>end up having to serve multiple roles in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>making lesson plans and educating children. Plus, it disproportionately harms

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<v Speaker 1>the less fortunate, like the less economically fortunate, because those

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<v Speaker 1>are people who likely don't have any other computer to use,

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<v Speaker 1>or smartphone or anything like that, so they rely even

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<v Speaker 1>more on the school supplied devices than another students do,

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<v Speaker 1>and thus they are disproportionately affected by this monitoring. The

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian has a great rite up on this. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>us Schools Gave Kids laptops during the pandemic, then they

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<v Speaker 1>spied on them. It was written by Jessa Crispin. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a good read if you want to learn

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<v Speaker 1>more about what happened, why it happened, and whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it's a good idea and spoiler alert. Jess thinks

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bad idea and I am inclined to agree.

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<v Speaker 1>One news item from last week that I did not

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<v Speaker 1>get to is that NASA has pushed back the launch

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<v Speaker 1>of a test flight for the Boeing star Liner spacecraft.

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<v Speaker 1>This would have been the second test flight for the

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing star Liner, and the plan was to conduct it

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<v Speaker 1>within this year, but now it's gonna happen next year

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<v Speaker 1>at the earliest. The reason for the delay is that

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<v Speaker 1>a component on the spacecraft and oxidizer isolation valve isn't

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<v Speaker 1>functioning correctly, and this component is not exactly in an

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<v Speaker 1>easy to access spot in the spacecraft, so it requires

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of planning just to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>address this and fixed the issue without causing more damage

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. Boeing Starliner did have an earlier unscrewed

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<v Speaker 1>test flight this year, but that one encountered problems with

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<v Speaker 1>its onboard software, which prevented it from docking with the

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<v Speaker 1>International Space Station. So for right now, the only U

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<v Speaker 1>S space craft that can make the journey to the

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<v Speaker 1>I S S is space X's Crew Dragon. Finally, Magic Leap,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a company I thought might be headed towards insolvency,

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<v Speaker 1>has turned things around, at least for the time being. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not familiar with this company, it started creating

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<v Speaker 1>Buzz several years ago as a pretty secretive business aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at creating an incredible augmented reality headset, presumably meant for

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<v Speaker 1>the consumer market. They released some promotional material that truly

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<v Speaker 1>made it look magical, so the name seemed fitting. The

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<v Speaker 1>company raised billions of dollars and investments like three billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>But over the years things changed, and I'm guessing that

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<v Speaker 1>some of the engineering challenges is were far more significant

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<v Speaker 1>than they had first anticipated, and this in turn drove

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<v Speaker 1>costs up. Ultimately, Magic Leap released a professional level headset

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<v Speaker 1>called Magic Leap One Creator. A name like that suggests

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<v Speaker 1>that this headset was intended for developers so that they

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<v Speaker 1>could build useful or compelling augmented reality experiences that would

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<v Speaker 1>rely on this headset. But it definitely wasn't priced at

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<v Speaker 1>or targeted for a consumer user base. It was professional only.

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<v Speaker 1>Magic Leap also laid off about half its workforce last year.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the co founders, Ronnie abbo It's, left the

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<v Speaker 1>company in July last year. But now the company has

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<v Speaker 1>raised an additional half billion dollars, which pretty phenomenal that

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to do that after all these issues.

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<v Speaker 1>And they plan to release a new a R headset

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<v Speaker 1>called the Magic Leap To next year. Some early headsets

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<v Speaker 1>are reportedly already in circulation, and this new headset is

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<v Speaker 1>light and it has a larger field of view than

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<v Speaker 1>the previous model. But it is however, still being targeted

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<v Speaker 1>at enterprise level customers. So this is not something you

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<v Speaker 1>or I would purchase in order to you like, turn

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<v Speaker 1>our homes into like a Willy Wonka Wonderland or something. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>these are meant for companies that might use it for

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<v Speaker 1>design departments, or maybe they might use it for really

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<v Speaker 1>technically complicated installations like the a R headset could show

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly where you might need to solder something, or

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<v Speaker 1>where you need to connect cables or lay certain electronics

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<v Speaker 1>in a very compact space. I'm glad to see that

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<v Speaker 1>magic leap, hasn't you know, leapt off a cliff? But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm left wondering how long it will take before we

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<v Speaker 1>eventually do see a good consumer targeted air headset. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's it for the news for Tuesday, October twelve, twenty one.

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