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Speaker 1: I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Roz. How are you? I am

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Speaker 1: doing great. I have been so busy, which is wonderful.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what a recommendation. If you're looking

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Speaker 1: So it's real ghost story to share. When I was

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Speaker 3: but I think if someone's a ghost because something went wrong,

434
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: they didn't get to pass on the way that they

435
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 3: wanted to, they didn't get to finish and go through

436
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: the way that they wanted to.

437
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: They're stuck.

438
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: They're stuck, and so I think that ghosts are basically

439
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: a representation of that. And so, you know, even though

440
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: this person may have lived a full and happy life

441
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: and different things, if they were in a particular mood

442
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: and you know, when they were, you know, at a

443
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: certain point, that's that's the mood that they're in for

444
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: the rest, for for the rest of eternity as ghosts,

445
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: That's what I think.

446
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: And so all of a sudden, this this.

447
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: Lovely lady who was a beautiful, loving mother, who was

448
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: really who got angry one day and fell off the thing,

449
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: you know, and then died.

450
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: Now her ghost is just angry, you know what I mean. Okay,

451
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: So I.

452
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: Think it's like you're you're whereever you were stuck at,

453
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: You're just stuck at it. That's that's what I think

454
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: a ghost is.

455
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I definitely I think that there that

456
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: that is a lot of times what's going on. But

457
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: because like sometimes I encounter quote unquote goes where it's

458
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: like they died, but they just don't want to be dead,

459
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: like they're they died, they knew they were dying, and

460
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: they're just like I really like this house. So I'm

461
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: just gonna stay here for a while or whatever. You know,

462
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: Like sometimes it's not like like it is kind of

463
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: like sad and not dealing with whatever they're they needed

464
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: to deal with. But it's like, I don't know, because

465
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many different kinds of ghosts. There's

466
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: there are some ghosts that seem to be more like

467
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: what they call intelligent, having different emotions, and they can

468
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: kind of react to you, and they can make jokes,

469
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: they can do all kinds of things. And then there's

470
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: other ones that are just kind of stuck, like they're

471
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: they're just kind of on repeat. They call them hauntings.

472
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: They're going to be roam in the halls whether you

473
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: see them or not.

474
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally so. Yeah. And and the the ghost

475
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: and spirit thing, I see that too, because it seems

476
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: that like you know, like all of us when we

477
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: pass like physically our bodies on this earth, we still

478
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: have spirit. And it seems that those spirits, you know,

479
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: they go somewhere who knows. But yeah, I think that

480
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: it's not I think that with the word ghosts there's

481
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: kind of like a like a sad connotation or something.

482
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know, it's it's in some ways,

483
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of like semantics or word.

484
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: You know.

485
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: It's like because, for example, okay, my house as a child,

486
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: my grandmother who died was chilling, and she was very

487
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: I would say intelligent and acted like a grandma as

488
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: a ghost. But I'm like, it's weird calling her a

489
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: ghost because she.

490
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: Was like that's grandma.

491
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like certainly her spirit, but like she was exactly.

492
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: I think she just stayed around because she she lived

493
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: in that house and she loved it, and she died

494
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: when I was young, and so she appeared to me

495
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: and my cousin who was also young the time. So

496
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. So you've never encountered a

497
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: ghost or.

498
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen anything in particular that

499
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: was I mean, and I'm not a skeptic. I'm I'm

500
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: quite a scaredy cat, and so I think I just

501
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: I may listen, I may have seen ghost. I just

502
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: don't stick around to even figure it out. I'm like, oh,

503
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: oh snap, some move, I gotta go.

504
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: Well your books. You're like, okay, I got a TV

505
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: show to go beyond this.

506
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how that got there, but I gotta

507
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: go that was mortally my story, but I did.

508
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: I mean the one story that the one like thing

509
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: that I have which I don't want to go too

510
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: deep into, but my my grandma. It always involves our grandparents.

511
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: My grandmother was quite the eccentric lady at the at

512
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: the parties. Let's just say that, you know, after cocktail hour, Okay,

513
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: if you catch my drift.

514
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: And uh.

515
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: She eventually passed a lung cancer and that was a

516
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: really tough time. I was there, you know, helping with

517
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: her and everything when she when she passed, But my grandfather,

518
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: she would always accuse my grandfather being you know, unfaithful

519
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 3: and on everything and anything that started with she accused

520
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: my grandfather And we didn't really have that much confirmation.

521
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: They were married for seventy five years, wow, and so.

522
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: They she had her suspicions, and you know, she knew

523
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: what she knew, I guess, and I remember I had

524
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: After she passed, I spent less time at my grandparents house.

525
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: But apparently only a few months after she had passed.

526
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: Allegedly, and I don't know exactly how it happens, but allegedly,

527
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: according to my aunts and my mother, my grandfather was in.

528
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: My grand It was in their bed.

529
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: My grandfather was in their bed with someone who wasn't

530
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: my grandmother, okay, okay. And the above the bed was

531
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: the window where a air conditioner was like right above

532
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: the bed. I don't it's the most bizarre place that

533
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: you would put it, but it was like above the bed,

534
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: like if the air conditioner fell out of the wall,

535
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: it would hit smash her head. I don't know why

536
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: anyone would put an air conditioner there, but that's where

537
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: it was.

538
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: And so the.

539
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: Above the bed air conditioner apparently caught on fire, and

540
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: there was this huge burn mark on the wall where

541
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: the air conditioner caught on fire. And you know, I

542
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: think that was the last time my grandfather had ever

543
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: tried to use that bed for anything other than sleeping.

544
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: And yeah, and so I think that and I would

545
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: I hope that that was my grandmother's ghost.

546
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. Okay, that's good. That's good. Do

547
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: you ever go to like psychics or have you done

548
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: anything like that?

549
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't gone to a psychic. I have.

550
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: I am on a deck of tarot cards, and so

551
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: I would like to get my cards read. There's a

552
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: I wish I had their name, but there an art

553
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: an artiste who makes drag tarot cards from many of

554
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: the girls from Track Race.

555
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: And I'm the two of Wand's I.

556
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: Think, And I'm also I'm also on there as one

557
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: of the village People because we did Village People song

558
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: in our season and and so I would love to

559
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: get my cards read one day.

560
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: So when you were growing up, did your family have

561
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: any thoughts on this kind of stuff, like did they

562
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: believe in it? Did you?

563
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: No?

564
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 3: I mean other than my grandmother, Like until those moments

565
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: of my grandmother, that was pretty much them that that

566
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: was pretty much the first time I'd ever heard anything

567
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: about like ghosts from my family or in and around

568
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: my family. No one ever talked about this house as haunted.

569
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: But then you know the I think people would probably

570
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 3: say that now about my grandparents' house, surely if you're

571
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: my grandfather.

572
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: But we just happened to live.

573
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound so bougie, but I guess there

574
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: was a moment in time when black families who were

575
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: educators were a part of that wave which you can

576
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: probably watch about look at in some other TV shows.

577
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: Part of that wave in the early in the late forties,

578
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: early fifties who were actually buying land and building their

579
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: own houses. And so the houses that I spent a

580
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: lot of the time and were actually built from from

581
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: the ground up for the people who lived in them.

582
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: My you know, my family members, my grandparents, they built

583
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: the house. And so the way I didn't have an

584
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: opportunity to live in a place where like, oh, the

585
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: old lady who used to live here died because nobody

586
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: lived there before. And I know that's not the answer

587
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: you want to hear, but that's fine.

588
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: Was this in Wilmington, Delaware? According to Wikipedia?

589
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: Yes, my grandparents' house is in Pennsylvania, which is where

590
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: I was born, and then I grew up in Wilmington, Delaware.

591
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: And my mom and I did not build our own houses.

592
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I was a kid.

593
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: My mom did. She was a single mother, did not

594
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: build the house.

595
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: We were always the young, poor folks, the youngest and

596
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: the poorest who just lived in apartments our whole life.

597
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: Did you ever go to or hear about a place

598
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: called the Dead President's Tavern in Wilmington?

599
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: Oh, Dead presidents? Yeah, everybody's heart of dead President's.

600
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: I've I've been to dead dead Presidents now I moved

601
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: out of Wilmington when I was eighteen, so I wasn't

602
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: really I wasn't old enough to go there as a patron.

603
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: But I believe that the dead dead presidents did events sometimes,

604
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: and I think I might have gone like just as

605
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: an event once or twice in the back. But everybody

606
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 3: dead presidents is legendary. Is dead president's haunted?

607
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: Well, of course? Well else what I bring it up? Okay,

608
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: I was doing some research on Wilmington and this was

609
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: the most interesting story that I've found. I think, Okay,

610
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: there's this presence that haunts it that allegedly this man

611
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: apparently this is true. It's not just like an urban

612
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: legend that this man in nineteen sixty they called him

613
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: Lemonade Muellery. I guess was his name his nickname. I

614
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: guess his name was Lemonade. But I think that the

615
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: way he died has something to do with that. I'm

616
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: not sure, but okay, so he uh, he was. He

617
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: drank a lot, and he liked to play practical jokes.

618
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: He would throw things at staff and you know this

619
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: is you know, fifties, sixties, and uh, for some reason,

620
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: people were okay with it that he was this like

621
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: jokes to me? Honestly, it's like, Okay, a drunk person

622
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: throwing things, you'd have to be really sweet to get

623
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: away with that. But he one night is super drunk

624
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: and he goes to the bathroom and he slipped on

625
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: a puddle of urine, broke his neck and died. He

626
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: his neck and died. So apparently he haunts this place now,

627
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: and waiters and waitresses have had dishes thrown at them,

628
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: and they've heard maniacal giggling behind them. Glasses in the

629
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: bar have rattled by themselves, and other Poulter Guy's incidents occur,

630
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: and pranks are played on the patrons. Dominoes in the

631
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: game room have been known to float across the recreation room,

632
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: and giggling is heard on the stairs and the area

633
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: around the bathrooms.

634
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: So next time, Willington, next time I'm in Wollington, I

635
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: will make sure I do not go to dead Past.

636
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: This is the thing.

637
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

638
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: I am a horror fanatic.

639
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of horry do you like?

640
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: Zombie is my main and I felt like I'm listening

641
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: to a ghost story. So I had to get myself

642
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: some sour Patch kids to eat while I've listened to

643
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: you talk about lemonade, oh Lolari or whatever his name is, zombie,

644
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: lemon name, mullerie, that name, that name.

645
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: Don't say it again, I'll appear. I love zombie.

646
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: Movies, and you know, zombie, the zombie genre is my favorite.

647
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: But I love all scary movies.

648
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: So what is it about horror that draws you to

649
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: a because I mean, you're to the point where even

650
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 1: your Insta says a horror fan. I know.

651
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: And it's really ridiculous because most people are like, what

652
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: are you talking about? But I've actually met some people

653
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: who are like, I don't actually like scary movies, and

654
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: I look at them, I think.

655
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: Are you what's wrong with you? How could you not

656
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: like scary movies? I like scary movies. I like thrills.

657
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: I like roller coasters. I like things like that.

658
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: You like you some zombies.

659
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: I love zombies, and I think my biggest attraction is

660
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: zombie movies. Is the theater theatrical experience when you can

661
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: scream at something coming on the screen and then grab

662
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: your friends and like scream and while you're grabbing, ripping

663
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: their arm off. For some reason, I'm attracted to zombies.

664
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

665
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: I feel like I know a lot about zombies. If

666
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: zombies come, I you're prepared. I feel like I'm prepared,

667
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't want to die by zombie,

668
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: but I guess I would rather die by zombies in

669
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 3: some other way of dying, I guess.

670
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: But Okay, this is messed up. But there was a

671
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: time at the very beginning of the pandemic when I

672
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: ran my ass to Target to get some toilet paper

673
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: and I could like there was nothing like there was.

674
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: It was scary to see people like running, and I

675
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: was like, this reminds me of all those zombie movies

676
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: that I've seen where it's like people start fighting, you know,

677
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: like The Walking Dead becomes like people fighting over like

678
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: resources and different penicillin. Yeah, that kind of stuff. I

679
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: was like, is this and then it becomes.

680
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: The organ trail because it's like penicillin.

681
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. But my thing with zombies is I'm always like, Okay,

682
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: if I think I would, I would get to a

683
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: point where I'm like, Okay, seems way more fun to

684
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: be a zombie, Like just take me, give me a bite.

685
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: And you know they seem like dumb, you know, all, yeah,

686
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: you can eat buffet sounds good to me. Well, I

687
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: want to see how much of a scaredy cat you

688
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: are because I have something scary to show you. Okay.

689
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: Our friend's so Nique, who was on this podcast. She

690
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: has a genuine ghost video that shook me core. No,

691
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: you don't want to see it.

692
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: Wait, I'll watch it.

693
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: But we haven't gotten to the scared.

694
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to tell you first. Let me tell you.

695
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: Let me tell you because you're already scaring me.

696
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: Okay, why I don't want scare you too much?

697
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: Wow?

698
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: I thought you like I do.

699
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: I like scary movies, but I don't like. I like

700
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: scary movies, I like. I like zombie movies, and I

701
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: like action films. I like things because I know that

702
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: they're fake. When I know that they're real, it really

703
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: scares me. I don't like seeing violence or people actually

704
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: being hurt in real life. I don't like. I don't

705
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: like when zombies really come around. I don't like, uh,

706
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: you know, you know, the scary. The movies that scare

707
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: me the most are like scare me the most are

708
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: ghost movies, and the like movies about like possession, like

709
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: demons and stuff like that. I don't do it now.

710
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: I watch those, I'll watch them once. I will not

711
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: I not, will not watch them twice. And honey, I

712
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: watch a zombie movie before I go to bed, Like

713
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: I'll sit and watch zombie movie and then fall asleep.

714
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: I I not watch a demon movie before I sleep too.

715
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: But then I'm like looking around and thinking, and I'm like,

716
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to look in the mirror. I don't

717
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: want to look in I don't want to look at

718
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: any kind of reflection. I don't want to look I

719
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: don't want to wake up at three fourteen, between three

720
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: and fours when they say the.

721
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: DNS at the witching hour.

722
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to do any like. I'm wary of

723
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: all of that. And right now I'm staying on a

724
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: I won't even tell you what has happened. I'm staying

725
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: in an airbnb by myself in Florida, and it scares

726
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: the heck out of me.

727
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: And so I'm just we can pass on it. We

728
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: can pass on it.

729
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: You can show it.

730
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: Now, Wait, can you can you give me a little

731
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: bit of a precursor or like that?

732
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: So what do yeah tell me?

733
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: So so Nique? So Nique was just chilling in her

734
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: home and she was just you know, I think she

735
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: was on live. This is a number of years ago,

736
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden she was like looking into

737
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: the camera on her computer and she saw somebody behind her.

738
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: And there was nobody behind her. But you can see

739
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: somebody behind her in this video. Now listen, I am

740
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: seriously Are you sure, I'm seriously sensitive to this kind

741
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: of to your situation because I'm the exact same way,

742
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: especially what I'm staying someplace that I don't live, and

743
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: I am not sure if so.

744
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so you see so in this video, it's not

745
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: her telling the story. It's actually the video of.

746
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: No, she was recording video. Yeah, it's the fast.

747
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: How do you know that there's nobody behind her? Well

748
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: you have to see Oh my god. Okay, you go

749
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: ahead and play it.

750
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: And if I need to look, I'll just look away.

751
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: I might just see it peripherally. I'm just looking away.

752
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Okay. But we're gonna we're gonna be looking to like

753
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: the right side of her where like that cup is. Okay,

754
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh jesus, it's a short clips.

755
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Do you I don't know if

756
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: you have of course, you have curs and you have

757
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: Nicole on there.

758
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Here we go.

759
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not looking. Okay, go.

760
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: Keep looking. Did you see it? No?

761
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: Good, We'll glad I didn't see it. Thank god. I

762
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: feel like I dodged a bullet. Can frame on it.

763
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, go through it slow, Okay, here we go.

764
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: Frame on it.

765
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a right where that cup is? Okay,

766
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: here we go. Do you see that it's like a

767
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: guy reaching for like a fry or something. Okay, now

768
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: that you've seen it. Can we watch it in real time?

769
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: Now that you've seen it? Okay, here we go.

770
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: Girl, Uh, what's this reaction? No?

771
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no, honey. If that

772
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: was a if you I saw something behind me, you

773
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: would have seen me. I would have been out of.

774
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: There so quick. I would have screamed. I would have

775
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: knocked over the camera. I would have jumped, I would

776
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: have ran. I ain't looking all slow, girl? What's wrong

777
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: with you? How people get killed? But you know, nonchalant

778
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: ass reaction.

779
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: When if you know that you're nobody's in the house,

780
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: you're supposed to run.

781
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: You know, soniqu too? Like, well, first of all, I've

782
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: seen a video of Sonique whipping somebody's ass that tried

783
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: to take her tips. Sonique is tough, but she's also

784
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: the sweetest. Like I truly believe. I don't think that

785
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: she like that this is fake or anything like. This

786
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: is to me, a genuine one of the best ghost

787
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: videos I've ever seen.

788
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: Girl, I don't get I mean, I yeah, I'm it's

789
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: for I can't engage with it too much because it

790
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: does scare me. But I just don't understand why she

791
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: didn't go, because that's what I would have done.

792
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: But because she looks back and there's nothing there, so

793
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, maybe there isn't anything. And it wasn't

794
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: a haunted house where she lived. It was just like

795
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: a thing that happened. Which could see that happen. We

796
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: don't know. But Okay, I'm glad.

797
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: You Okay I watched it. Don't keep showing.

798
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: It, Okay, okay, Okay, I feel like I have scared

799
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: you enough. Now. There is something that we usually do

800
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: on the show, but I am totally fine, seriously with

801
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: not doing it if you don't want, But I'll tell

802
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: you what it is. We listen to ghost voices which

803
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: people believe that they've captured ghosts speaking on camera, like

804
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: from Ghost Hunting, and I play them and I have

805
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: you guess what the ghost is saying? Would you want

806
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: to give that a try?

807
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: No?

808
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: No, hell, no, hell, you bitch. I ain't listening to

809
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: no ghost talking to me. I don't want to know

810
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: what they have to say. I don't want to know

811
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: what a ghost voice sounds like. I don't want to

812
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: recognize no ghosts. If I thought it was the lawnmower,

813
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: I want to still think it's the lawnmower. If I

814
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: thought it was a duck, I still want to think

815
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: it's a duck. If I thought it was whatever, I

816
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: don't want to know. I don't want to know.

817
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all, Roy, yes, don't do it.

818
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Okay, we will do it, though we'll skip it this time. Okay,

819
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: then let me tell you about one more thing. Have

820
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: you ever have you ever heard of La Pascualita?

821
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: No, tell me about.

822
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: Okay, in Chihuahua, Mexico, which is actually where my family

823
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: is from. Originally, there's a local legend and so basically

824
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: this woman owned this dress store. Her name was Pascuala Esparza.

825
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: She owns this dress store and her daughter died of

826
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: a black widow spider bike. Oh no, okay, this is

827
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty. And then very very shortly after, this

828
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: brand new mannequin showed up in the window at the

829
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: dress store that looked a lot like the daughter, and

830
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: people are like, wait a minute, that looks just like her,

831
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: and they say that it looks so eerily real, like

832
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: way more than like a nineteen thirties mannequin. Like she's

833
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: got veins on her thighs or like on her legs,

834
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: like she's got fingernails, Like she looks like an embalmed

835
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: human being, which there are like popes and other like

836
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: world leaders and stuff around the world that have done that,

837
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: Like they're like kind of on display and they like

838
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: are embalmed or whatever. But so people, uh claim that

839
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: this mannequin, they see her eyes following them, they turn

840
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: around and she's in a different position, and people from

841
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: around the world come to see this mannequin.

842
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: And when today did to this day, to this.

843
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: Day, she's like an urban legend. I mean, now we

844
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it's true or not, but I mean

845
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: it it's kind of convincing. But can I show you

846
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: a picture of what she looks like.

847
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh, well, what are you doing?

848
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: You try I saw on Instagram that you like horror movies.

849
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: Don't blame me.

850
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 3: Movies, movies, movies, movies, actors.

851
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: Okay, show me the goddamn now you got me cursing.

852
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 2: Show me this, bitch. Oh lord, what are you going

853
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: to show me a picture of?

854
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: Tell me?

855
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this is the mannequin?

856
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: What is this is just.

857
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: No, it's just I'm not looking Okay, Okay, let's take

858
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: it down.

859
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: Describe it. Describe it.

860
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: It's just a beautiful female mannequin and a close up

861
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: of her hand that kind of shows that it looks

862
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: more like a real so something that looks.

863
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

864
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 3: In order for me to look at this, I'm sorry,

865
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: I have to take the gas out of it a

866
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: little bit. It's a it's a mannequin that's in a

867
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Speaker 3: story that looks very real.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm People think it looks really real now

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Speaker 1: based off I've never seen it in person. I think

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Speaker 1: it kind of just looks like a mannequin. But there

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Speaker 1: is a close up of the hand and and it

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Speaker 1: kind of the hand to me, does look way is.

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Speaker 2: Going to jump out or do something great?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: I swear to God, I'm not shady like that at all. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's look at it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what I would Oh, that hand doesn't does

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Speaker 3: look like she's a most sad. Yeah, it doesn't look

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Speaker 3: like even the neck area, this doesn't look like a

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Speaker 3: mannequin that came out of the.

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Speaker 1: Box, you know, like, Oh, she's been there for all

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Speaker 1: these years. Now, how much would you keep I.

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Speaker 2: Guess if it's a tourist attraction, you're you're going to

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Speaker 2: keep it now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at this point, yeah, it's become like a destination.

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00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: But how much money would you have to be paid

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Speaker 1: to put on that dress and be in that store

888
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: for an entire night by yourself with that Mexican.

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Speaker 3: More than a million dollars? Probably ten. Actually, there's no

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Speaker 3: amount of money. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: I don't care how much money it is. It's not

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Speaker 3: worth it.

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Speaker 2: It's more.

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00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: It would have to be more money than I could

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Speaker 3: ever spend in a lifetime, which means you might as

896
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Speaker 3: well get killed because you're never going to spend it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to do it. Okay.

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Speaker 3: If the ghost is like, okay, I'll give you ten

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Speaker 3: million dollars because I know you can't spend this money.

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Speaker 2: But since you can't spend it, I'll kill you.

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00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: Then no, like, okay, Well, Peppermint, you've been a great sport.

902
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: I really hope I did not traumatize you. Are you

903
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna be okay?

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Speaker 3: I'm scared, but I'm all right. Oh no, I might

905
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Speaker 3: watch cartoons tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm so appreciate you doing this. Can you tell people?

907
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: I mean, now this could take an hour, but can

908
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: you tell people what you got going on? Where people

909
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: can find you? I mean, there's so much stuff going on,

910
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: but you know, let us know.

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00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, people should follow me on social media. They should

912
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: check out my new music. I got something brand new

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Speaker 3: coming out. It is called Moment of Weakness. Letters to

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Speaker 3: My Lovers, which is a follow up to a Girl

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Speaker 3: Like Me Letters to My Lovers. It's a very personal

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Speaker 3: R and B the nineties R and B breakup album

917
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Speaker 3: about a relationship that I was in and people should

918
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Speaker 3: watch out for me on Call Me Mother on out TV,

919
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Speaker 3: a brand new drag reality show where I'm a judge

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Speaker 3: where three houses battle it out and the losing house

921
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Speaker 3: has to send Each week, the losing house has to

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Speaker 3: send the losing The mother from the losing house has

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Speaker 3: to send home their one of their children, and so that.

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Speaker 2: Starts in the fall.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, people should check out I Am Jess, support the

926
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Speaker 3: show and retweet about it, talk about it because you know,

927
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Speaker 3: they tackle some really important topics on the show and

928
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Speaker 3: I'm just really grateful to be a part of too.

929
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 3: It's about their family, it's about you know, it's about

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Speaker 3: the Jennings family for those of you that don't know,

931
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Speaker 3: and their support of their youngest child, who is a

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Speaker 3: transgender woman. Now she was a young girl and they've

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Speaker 3: been this. This is season seven and so I'm happy

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Speaker 3: to be featured on the show and that comes out

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Speaker 3: this fall as well.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a Discovery Plus probably right.

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00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 3: Well, it was on TLC, but you know a lot

938
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Speaker 3: of these these networks are having these big old mergers.

939
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Speaker 2: Honey.

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00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: It's like a network orgy, and so you can't tell

941
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: who works what and what channel does? Does my password

942
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: still work? I don't know, right, I'm not sure, but

943
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Speaker 3: it's it is.

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Speaker 1: I know it is on Discovery Plus. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's only on Discovery Plus, but it is Undiscovery Plus,

946
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Speaker 1: which I have because that's what all the ghost shows

947
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Speaker 1: are on too. Well, Peppermint, it's been lovely. Thank you God.

948
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Speaker 1: I genuinely feel bad that I didn't want to scare

949
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Speaker 1: you like this.

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Speaker 3: I've been scared. I've been scared much worse. I'll tell

951
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: you I'm never watching Hereditary again.

952
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god. When she's on the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to know. I don't want to talk.

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Speaker 1: About okay, and then I bring it up. Of course

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Speaker 1: I bring it up. I just I live in this spookiness,

956
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: so I talk about it so nonchalantly, and then I

957
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: forget that there's people that like, don't just talk about

958
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: this stuff every day. So I appreciate you so much

959
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: doing this, and hopefully I'll get to work with you

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00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: again sometime.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would love that, Gorge.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Peppermint. Special thank you to

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Speaker 1: Ken Phillips. And if you want to hear more from

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Speaker 1: this episode, go to patreon dot com slash Rosdresfles. On

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00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: my second tier, you can hear Peppermint's thoughts on UFOs

966
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Speaker 1: and bigfoots and haunted dolls and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you can also hear my new little Patreon podcast

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Speaker 1: that I'm doing with my best friend Sam Pancake for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks or maybe longer. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but it's all there on Patreon link in the description

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Speaker 1: of this episode and guys next week one of our

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Speaker 1: favorite guests of the show. It is a three peat guest.

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Speaker 1: This is Katrina Widman. We'll be back here and we'll

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Speaker 1: be talking about the TV show Portals to Hew. So

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Speaker 1: go watch Portals to Hew also on Discovery Plus. You know,

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Speaker 1: go watch Portals to Hell. It's one of my absolute

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Speaker 1: favorite paranormal TV shows and we'll be talking all about

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Speaker 1: it next week, so check that out. Make sure you're subscribed. Hey,

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Speaker 1: please tell your friends about Ghosted and rate the show

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Speaker 1: five stars on Apple Podcasts. If you have a ghost story,

981
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Speaker 1: you could leave it in there. Maybe I'll read it

982
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Speaker 1: on the show and join our Facebook group. Ghosted by

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Speaker 1: Roz dres Fales. I am on Cameo at Roz dres Fales.

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Speaker 1: I am on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and I love

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Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't

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Speaker 1: ask you to hont me, don't haunt me.

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