1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and all come to 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: stuff I never told your production of iHeart Radio and 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: today spoilers. Spoilers abound because we are talking about Supergirl 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: and related comics and other material. I've never seen Supergirl, 5 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: so apologies. If I get anything wrong, please let me know. Samantha, 6 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: you've never seen it either. 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: So I have never seen any of the WB Supergirl. 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: I have seen her when she does the crossover because 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: I did watch Flash and I watched parts of the Arrow, 10 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of crossover between the Flash and Supergirl. 11 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: And then like when DC does their whole their thing, 12 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: which is very confusing and I had to be like, 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: what the hell is happening? I don't know what's going 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: on type of level. So I know of the person 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: who plays that character, who is actually on Glee, and 16 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: she has gone through some things y'all and has made 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: it on top. Yeah, it was a whole thing. But 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: that's about all. So I know Melissa been nooist, but 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: I knew her from Glee when I was still kind 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: of watching. But she's been through some things. Yeah, So 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: that's about all. That's all I know. I know they 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: can cross over and she flies. 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Well, you know you might know some of this then, 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: because this character we're talking about, Nia Now did appear 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: in the Flash and the air Verse that I think 26 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: only briefly. 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: Who is she? Well, tell me, I'm excited. 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Let me explain, and again, listeners, please feel free to 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: write in and correct me. So nia Now are the 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: Dreamer is half human and half Notorian, and Notorians are 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: an alien race in the DC universe, and she grew 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: up in this Hiddenn alien refugee sanctuary close to Metropolis. 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: She is depicted by Nicole Mains, a transactivist herself, and 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about that later. The character first appeared 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: in DC Pride issue number one in twenty twenty two 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: and was the first trans character in the Era Verse 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: in the first trans superhero on network television, and she 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: had to face transphobia from all around, including her family. 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: In her character arc, her powers allow her to get 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: visions of the future in her dreams, and she can 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: convert mental energy to physical energy and can astral project. 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: The Nontallorians pass on their powers from mothers to daughters, 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: and that was done very purposefully, that it was passed 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: on from mother to daughter and a clarification. This is 45 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: kind of confusing to me, because again, I haven't consumed 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of this media. She first appeared in a 47 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen episode of the TV show Supergirl called American Alien, 48 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: but I guess her character's introduction is often attributed to 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: the comics in terms of continuity, because would do such 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: a mess in these comics. Some people usually say she 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: first appeared in that twenty twenty two issue, but I'm 52 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: pretty sure her first, like actual instance of appearing was 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: this twenty eighteen episode. She also appeared in a twenty 54 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: twenty two Fortnite event where she was the third playable 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: trans character that they've ever had. A Maine surprised the 56 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: role in a twenty twenty three episode of The Flash. 57 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: So this character, the Dreamer, worked alongside Kara Supergirl al 58 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: as a reporter. She has a degree in international affairs 59 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: from Georgetown and she was a political speechwriter and worked 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: for the White House Press Secretary. She was concerned about 61 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: anti alien and anti trans hate on the Rise. To 62 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: that end, yes, she goes on to pursue reporting. She's 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: trying to kind of build her story and show why 64 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: this is really bad and why it's rising When she 65 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: gets her powers, her sister, who had trained in the 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Realm of dream Interpretation, is really angry about it because 67 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: she wanted the powers and disowns her. Kara opens up 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: about her own superhero identity to befriend Nia. When Kara 69 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: is framed for a crime, Nia doesn't buy it, doesn't 70 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: believe it happened. She takes up the mantle of City 71 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: Superhero while they work to clear Kara's name and combat 72 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: the anti alien Hatred. Through this, Nia helps defeat a 73 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: super villain and starts dating Brainy, a fellow alien. Soon 74 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: after she takes on the rule of the Dreamer, she 75 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: has this vision of the death of the Justice League, 76 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: and she's able to warn the then superman John Kent 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: about it. She joins forces with him to liberate Gomorra, which, 78 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: by the way, this very much confused me, but we're 79 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: talking about the island, not the Marvel character. That makes sense, 80 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: and after what happens, she believed John Kent had changed 81 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: the future. She later met Supergirl, Batman, and Robin, who 82 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: gave her a mission to use her powers to retrieve 83 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: the helmet of Fate, and during this mission her powers 84 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: expanded so that she could have visions while she was awake. 85 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, Nia attended Metropolis Pride. She later 86 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: helped evacuate Metropolis. Unbeknownst to her, she was being observed 87 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: by Amanda Waller, an intense agent who led the Suicide Squad, 88 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: amongst other things. Waller later contacted her and tried to 89 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: blackmail her and to capturing a runaway member of the 90 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: Suicide Squad Afterthought. Worried about the people of the refugee 91 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: town that she grew up in, Nia defeated Afterthought, though 92 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: it turned out it was more of a test from 93 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: Waller to prove if Nia could be controlled by threatening 94 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: the ones that she loved, and Waller thought, yes, I 95 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: can control her like this. Later, Waller threatened her people 96 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: again and captured her to work with the Suicide Squad, 97 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: using her powers to travel through the dream world ensure 98 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: that Gomorra that Island, would not become something Waller and 99 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: the US could not control. Through a vision, Nia learned 100 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: that Waller was planning on taking control of Gamora herself, 101 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: and Nia abandoned the mission, recruiting Harley Quinn in the process, 102 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: and they, along with the Gomorah Army, stopped the suicide 103 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: squad from succeeding, Na lost consciousness and the effort and 104 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: tried to enter the dreams of Waller to sway her 105 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: from the path, but was not successful. However, I'm pretty 106 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: sure that's kind of like where the story is right now. 107 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: It's ongoing, so more to come and if there's been 108 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: any updates right in as mentioned Mains. The actress portraying 109 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: Nia is a transactivist and was involved in a twenty 110 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: fourteen lawsuit that resulted in the first state court ruling 111 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: that stated it was illegal to ban trans kids from 112 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: bathrooms based on gender identity. She reportedly started asking questions 113 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: like when do I get to be a girl and 114 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: when will my penis fall off? From as young as 115 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: two years old. Her twin brother said while they were 116 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: in elementary school, face it, dad, you have a son 117 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: and a daughter. She changed her name, got gender affirming surgery, 118 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: and decided to pursue acting as she got older. The 119 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen book Becoming Nicole, The Transformation of an American 120 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Family by Washington Post writer Amy Ellis Nutt about her 121 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: family and her gender identity, told their whole story. There 122 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: are several articles that have delved into the differing gender 123 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: identities of her and her twin brother. She was also 124 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: featured in the documentary The Translist, and was in the 125 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: horror movie Bit about queer vampires, So I'm Intrigued, and 126 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: has a role in the second season of Yellow Jackets. 127 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: She's also been involved in writing the comics for this character. 128 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Just all yeah, I love it. Yeah, so that's really cool. 129 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: And again, listeners, if you have any comics you want, 130 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: wanna recommend any corrections for me. If I got something wrong, 131 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: please let us know. I'm also sorry, I tried to 132 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: get it right. I always want to say Naya, it's 133 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: nias Nia. 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