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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. It is Mike De head writer of The

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bones Show and producer of The Bobby Cast, and

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Speaker 1: Bobby and I wanted to share a recent episode of

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Speaker 1: The Bobby Cast that we did with new artists Morgan Wade.

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Speaker 1: We love sharing new artists with you on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: And she has a song on the charts right now

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Speaker 1: currently at number twenty seven that you would know. It's

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Speaker 1: called Wilder Days Smith and we got to meet her

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Speaker 1: on this episode to hang out with her. She has

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Speaker 1: a really cool story. It was a very raw and

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Speaker 1: honest conversation of how she grew up, how she wrote

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Speaker 1: her songs in secret, found her first band on Craigslist,

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Speaker 1: and then the really cool way that she got a

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Speaker 1: record deal, all by really staying true to herself. So

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Speaker 1: if you haven't checked out Morgan Wade music, you really

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Speaker 1: need to listen to her latest album called Reckless. But

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Speaker 1: we'll get into all that here on episode three thirty

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Speaker 1: two of The Bobby Cast, the music podcast we record

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Speaker 1: every single week at Bobby's house, So if you're not

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Speaker 1: So you get brand new episodes every single Friday. But

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Speaker 1: right now, here's Morgan Wade. Morgan, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing pretty good. It's nice to

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Speaker 1: finally meet you. You as well, what I think. We've

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Speaker 1: missed each other a couple of times. You were coming

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Speaker 1: last time and then I didn't have a voice yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I appreciate you. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: stay the nextterday or not, but I appreciate that. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you that I did even though I

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Speaker 1: was already here. Are you going to be here? You

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Speaker 1: don't live here though I don't. Do you have a

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Speaker 1: plan to move here? I do? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I need to move out here, just kind of like

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Speaker 1: figuring out where I want to live because I thought

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Speaker 1: it was so punk rock that you didn't live out

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Speaker 1: here and you're just like screw it. Yeah, And I've

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Speaker 1: been like that for like the last two years. But

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Speaker 1: now I'm like, uh, everything's like based out of here,

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Speaker 1: my bands here, so I'm like the outlier. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's tough. Like I have a couple of friends justin

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Speaker 1: Moore because I'm from Arkansas. We grew up near the

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Speaker 1: same town. Yeah, he lives in Arkansas still, and as

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Speaker 1: much as that's home, it's still a pain in the

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Speaker 1: butt to have to come out and work. But he

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Speaker 1: also moved here, established himself, you know, and then moved out. Okay, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I get that. There's no direct flights from where I am,

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Speaker 1: then from Atlanta to here. So where do you live,

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Speaker 1: like near Bristol, Virginia. Oh so like Tri City's area? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Did you grow up watching? Because I don't know anything

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Speaker 1: about racing, I will just say I hated it. Every

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Speaker 1: I just never understood why it was such a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I went out there once. I was like nineteen. They said, hey,

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Speaker 1: When when did you start tinkering around with music? Like

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Speaker 1: So how did you even know that you could write

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Speaker 1: You know, what kind of music did you like? I

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Speaker 1: to or when did you first find your type of music?

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Speaker 1: So I was in like first grade and I discovered

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Speaker 1: Like you know that that whole thing, you went through

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Speaker 1: because of the total the dancing, the singing, Like what

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Speaker 1: Yeah I did. My grandma was like my best friend

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Speaker 1: They made us play that whole time. And of course

427
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: the guys they were all like older guys, so they

428
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: were like used to playing to like nobody, So to them,

429
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 1: they're like, well, three and a half hour practice here,

430
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna drink our beer and just

431
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: you know, play along. And those were the nights that

432
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: you leave there thinking why the hell am I doing this?

433
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: You know, like this, this is stupid. And I think

434
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why I was like, all right,

435
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay in college because I don't know that

436
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: this is gonna work out. It almost feels like a

437
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: movie when no one's in the theater. But they runed

438
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: it anyway in case someone happens to come in, right

439
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: like they wanted you to keep playing in case someone

440
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 1: does happen to stumble in. I'm like, man, there was

441
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: no one in there, nobody. I will never forget that

442
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: night because I remember at one point we just I

443
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: just stopped singing and I was just that they're playing

444
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: my guitar and we just kind of stood there. It's

445
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 1: like the same song. We just kept running it and

446
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,479
Speaker 1: running and nobody knows the difference that there's nobody there.

447
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 1: There was no one there except the bartender. And she

448
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, what was she She wasn't doing anything? Yeah, yeah, exactly, absolutely. Okay,

449
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 1: So at this point, you're still living in Virginia. Yeah,

450
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: you're still Have you ever moved out of Virginia or

451
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: have you lived there the whole time. No, I've lived

452
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: there the whole time. Like I moved you know, I

453
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 1: grew up in Floyd and then I moved to Roanoke,

454
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: which is where I went to college, and then you know,

455
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: I moved out towards the Tri Cities area. Um, I've

456
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 1: lived there for a couple of years. In your hometown,

457
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: are people now that already know you, are they starting

458
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: to look at you a little different because you know,

459
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: you are popping up on the radio, you are popping up.

460
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: Are they like maybe people being nicer to you, or

461
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: people you don't know it coming up and be like,

462
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: hey can get a picture? Is that happening? Yeah. I

463
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 1: went home and I told my grandma. I was like,

464
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: when I come to see you, we just like I

465
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: just want to come to your house and like hang

466
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: out because it's a small town. And last time I

467
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: was there, I went out to eat and yeah, they

468
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: if I'm stuff in my face with food, like last

469
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: thing I want to do is you know so? And

470
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate it because it is really great, but it

471
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: was a little it was a little bizarre. It's a

472
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: little weird, you know, to go back there and and

473
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: and have that. But you know, I think My dad

474
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: gets it a lot too, you know, meet meeting people

475
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: you know that that know who I am, and to him,

476
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: it's funny. You're also kind of hard to miss, just

477
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 1: because just because the tattoos, Like even if you're fully covered,

478
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: your hands are still I would have to wear like

479
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: medical gloves, like you have to show up in Minton's

480
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: and like a big furry hat, right, and then I'm

481
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 1: gonna stick out it. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's just

482
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 1: not it is cool. I mean it's interesting. I mean

483
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: I've been in the airport all over and and I've

484
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: started to have a lot of people recognize me there.

485
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about your voice as a songwriter,

486
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: because I think you said it. You started writing songs,

487
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: and you started writing them from a different perspective, your perspective.

488
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: Started writing them so young too. I mean when did

489
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: you first start to feel that voice, not singing voice,

490
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: but that voice have an opinion or a perspective. Man.

491
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: I mean I remember I was like, you know, I

492
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: had to be like nine or ten, and my dad

493
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: was going through a separation and I was writing about

494
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: that just from his perspective of in which I look

495
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: and I look violent. Man, you were a sad, sad kid.

496
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: I look back and it was very like, you know,

497
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: I've always written just from whatever's going around, you know,

498
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: whatever whatever I'm around, you know, whatever I'm experiencing, Like

499
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: that's just that. It was just my outlet. Did you

500
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: keep any of that stuff? Do you have from as

501
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: you know, from a kid? So that was another. I

502
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: didn't write stuff down because I didn't want anybody to

503
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: read it. So if I would write stuff down sometimes,

504
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: but I would hide it. And my grandmother claims she

505
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: finds stuff in like cookbooks and stuff stash around her house.

506
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I think she's making it up

507
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: so she can sell something one day on eBay. I

508
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: think she's planning that story now so she'll have something.

509
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: But I just didn't write stuff down because I didn't

510
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: want anybody to find it. So I will memorize stuff.

511
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: And until I came out here to Nashville and we

512
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: were in the studio, you know, Sadnurbaid and my producer,

513
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: he was just like, you need to write this stuff that,

514
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: like type it out because we have to be able

515
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: to like see it. But I would just memorize it.

516
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: If it was something that was gonna stick. You would

517
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: just stick in my head. So you go to these guys,

518
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: that's all these songs you'd written. Now we're gonna go

519
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: back to the basement or wherever you went to this

520
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: room with these forty year old guys. What were those

521
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: songs about as a as a nineteen year old, Like

522
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: when you look back at you know, if you were

523
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: to paint brush that with a broad stroke, what was

524
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: that collection of music about? Yeah, I didn't, man, most

525
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: of it was just, especially the early days, was definitely heartbreak,

526
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: which I don't think I've steered too far from that,

527
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: but you know, heartbreak and starting to drink and like

528
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: experience experience different stuff, but mainly heartbreak. I think that's

529
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: that's all I've seemed to really know how to write about.

530
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: Did you ever because sometimes I'll do this with comedy

531
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: where I feel like I'm I'm extremely vulnerable and I'm

532
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: exposing myself and I'm right up on the edge. You're going, Man,

533
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: this is too much like I'm on the edge. I

534
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: never actually feel like I get towards too much, oddly,

535
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm on the edge a lot.

536
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you're that way? With lyrics

537
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: or when you're writing a song. Yeah, for sure, because

538
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: people ask all the time, they're like, you know, do

539
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: you ever start to say something you're like I shouldn't

540
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I think I think so. But

541
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: then it's like, after it's out there, you look back

542
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, it wasn't really anything to me.

543
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: I think that, And I think that's good too, because

544
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: you never, like you said, you never reached that spot.

545
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: But I think it's good to push the envelope. When

546
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: did someone come to you, someone that had any sort

547
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: of prominence, and I won't say Nashville, but any music

548
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: who came to you and said, wow, you're different, not

549
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: that you sound different and you look different, but you're

550
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: different that you're actually pretty good and you have a

551
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: perspective a voice, and kind of gave you confidence that

552
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: you can make this. Yeah, you know, I would. I

553
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: would have to say. Like. So, I played a festival

554
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: and when I got done with my set, Jason Isabel

555
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: in the four hundred unit. We're playing later that night,

556
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: and Jason's sound engineer came up and he was like, hey,

557
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Who was He introduced himself and

558
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I think the guys would really like to

559
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: hear your music. And he's like he's really good, you know,

560
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: like I really enjoyed your set, and I didn't expect

561
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: to hear anything, you know. I was like, okay, yeah,

562
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And then like a day later, Sadler

563
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: hit me up on Instagram. He's like, hey, love your voice,

564
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: Like I've looked up your music. You know, what do

565
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: you have going on? Like we should chat, like would

566
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: love to write with you and just talk and said,

567
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: like two days later, we hopped on a on a

568
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: FaceTime and he was like, you know, play me some

569
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: of your stuff, you know. He he was like, you know,

570
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: I want to get into producing. Do you you have

571
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: a producer? He's like, I would love to like collaborate

572
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: with you. And so I pitched him the idea of

573
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: Wilder Days. I sat down. That's the first song I

574
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: ever played him, and it just went from there. It

575
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: was so like organic, um, you know, he didn't want

576
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: any anything from me, and so I came out to

577
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Nashville and we just clicked and his thing was just

578
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't want any money. I know you don't have

579
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: any money, Like let's just work together. We'll work here

580
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: at my house. Let's write some songs. And we started

581
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: recording demos. And you know, before I met him, I

582
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: didn't have a booking agent or manager or anything, and

583
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: so that all just started to fall into place because

584
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: the demos kind of started circulating around. When you say

585
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: you came to Nashville, what does that mean? Obviously you

586
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: get in a car or you go. I got in

587
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: a car and I drove here here? Do you like,

588
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: get a hotel? Room? Do you find it? Like? How

589
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: long do you stay? Yeah? I came out there. I

590
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: think the first time I met was sad that I

591
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: came out here and I was out here for a

592
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: couple of days something like that. You just got a

593
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: hotel and just cram rights in, like you you're here,

594
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: morning starts, you're writing until you go to bed. Yeah, yeah,

595
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: I like And I've enjoyed that because it's like, I mean,

596
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: I've been doing stuff all day. It's like, Okay, she's

597
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: out here right now. We have to get all this

598
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: stuff done so versus you know, me living out here.

599
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: And they've been like, hey, we need you to come

600
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: here at Tuesday at tune Thursday at four, you know,

601
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that they have to get it done in

602
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: an x amount of time and then leave me alone.

603
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many stories about new artists either

604
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: coming to town or being in town and having someone

605
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: take advantage of them money. Hey I promising you this,

606
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: and they don't get it. But you come and you

607
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: spend the first couple of days here. Did you feel

608
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: like it was legit? Like wow, like this may not

609
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: turn into anything massive, but what was coming from him

610
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: was sincere. Oh yeah, I mean, Sadler's like the nicest

611
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: person ever and and and he just um I could

612
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: tell he just he just believed in it. He was

613
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: just like really excited. And I didn't feel any pressure

614
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: to do anything other than just you know, throw ideas

615
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: around with him and make some music that he believed in.

616
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: You go back home, and how long until you start

617
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: to get these things back emailed you or texted to

618
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: you like, hey, check it out, listen to this Sadler.

619
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: That's the thing about him. He will work on something

620
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: all night until it's it's done, and typically I'll have

621
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: a rough of something within a few hours. Did you

622
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: hear a slightly different version of you, because now you

623
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: had somebody pretty good working on your stuff, Like, did

624
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: you hear you in a way you hadn't heard yet? Yeah,

625
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: oh for sure, because it was you know, even though

626
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: it was just you know, a rough demo at his house,

627
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: it was still more professional than anything I'd ever had done,

628
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't know how to do that

629
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: and grow up around those resources or anything. So hearing

630
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: something you've worked on, like actually recorded, actually sent to

631
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: you like that, and it yeah, it was. It was incredible.

632
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: When did those dreams start to happen? Well, I could

633
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: actually be a music star. So at the time, I

634
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: was actually working a job in tax reassessment. But what

635
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of taxes? So basically I worked for this company

636
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: and they would bid on towns that like, and you

637
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: would go around and assess the properties. If they you know,

638
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: built anything, you had to make note of that basically

639
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: to be taxed on it, you know, for real estate purposes.

640
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: No one likes that, and no one likes the little

641
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: tattooed girl showing up on their porch either. I had

642
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: the cops called multiple times, it was. But I only

643
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: had to work Monday through like Thursday, and it was

644
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: full time, and so I had like Thursday night, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

645
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: I could go play shows and I could take a hit,

646
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, not making any money and try to like

647
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: get my foot in the door in all these different places,

648
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: but yet not be broke. Um. But Saddler finally sat

649
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: me down and he's like, listen, you know you gotta

650
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: go all in. You gotta choose one or the other

651
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: because you're kind of starting to get at this this

652
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: point where you got to dedicate more to the music

653
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: if that's what you really want to do. And he

654
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: was right, and so I think. Um, driving back home,

655
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: I called my boss and was like, hey, I'm gonna

656
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: give you my my I'll finish out this job and

657
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: then then that's it. I'm done. They weren't upset because

658
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: I was horrible at that job. It was. It was.

659
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: It was pretty bad also of all the jobs that

660
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: maybe you look like you would do tax accessor I

661
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: think would be I don't know, five six hundred on

662
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: the list. Yeah, yeah, it was. I liked it because

663
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: like it's just the tattoos is all it is. Yeah now,

664
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: And it was. It was. But it was funny because

665
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: you see a lot of stuff, you know, a lot

666
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: of interesting people just and people would assume too. I

667
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know how many times that had people be like

668
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: thinking I was like selling like cookies or something. I

669
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: was like, I am not a girl scout. Not a

670
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: girl scout. When did and what was the label process

671
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: for you? Like did multiple label say hey or did

672
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: one just dial in and go we want you to

673
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: be on our label. Let's go. Yeah, So, like Southern,

674
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I'd set out to just make an EP, and so

675
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: we recorded like five songs and then that's when a

676
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: couple of different labels started kind of you know, sniffing around,

677
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: and we took some meetings. The first meeting I took

678
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: was with thirty Tigers, and David Massis was great, and

679
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: he was like, I love it, you know, but you

680
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: should go around take the other meetings see if you

681
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: like them better. You know. He was like, but regardless,

682
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: you'll have a home here if you want it, Like,

683
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: we believe in what you're doing. But he was like,

684
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: you need to make an LP, not an EP, like

685
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: you've got the songs. Like. So I met with a

686
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: couple other places and they just wanted to change everything.

687
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: They didn't want They were like, oh, we love what

688
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: you're doing, but we want to change all of it,

689
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well this works sonically. They just wanted

690
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: to like rerecord everything. I don't know how many places.

691
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: They were like, we should just do an acoustic album.

692
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's really boring. That's gonna get

693
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: really boring really quickly. And so I went with thirty

694
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: Tigers and then you know, Reckless came out last March.

695
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a month later. Every label in Nashville

696
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: was emailing my manager like, hey, we want to talk.

697
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: A lot of which wanted to talk beforehand, and it

698
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: was like, really, okay, you wanted to change everything, and

699
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: now you're like, I love it. But Sony Sony Music

700
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: stuck out the most. Um, you know, I took a

701
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: meeting with them, and I really made them work for it.

702
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: Poor Randy good Man over there at Sunny I really

703
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: made that poor guy like he was like, I didn't

704
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: know for like the first four meetings if you liked me.

705
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: He was like, we met and you kept your sunglasses

706
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: on the whole time. I was like, it was bright outside, dude,

707
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: that's that's what he claims. I did it to like

708
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: freak him out. But um, the thing that stuck out

709
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: with them? Is I Finally, I was just like, what

710
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: do you want to change? What do you what do

711
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: you want to do? I was like, if I stay

712
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: at thirty Tigers, I was like, what can you give me?

713
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: They can't. I was like, because I own all my stuff,

714
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm making really good, I'm I'm doing good. I'm doing

715
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: the best I've ever done. I was like, what can

716
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: you guys do? Like why would I come to you?

717
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: And you know, essentially, Randy's like, we don't. We don't

718
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: want to change anything. We love this record, like we

719
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: just want to rerelease it. We won't change a single thing.

720
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: And he was like, we'll just give you that platform

721
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: and that push that a major label can give you

722
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: and more opportunities and and um. It just it ended

723
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: up being the right move and I've been really happy.

724
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: But they didn't. They didn't want to change the darn thing. Yeah.

725
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: I love the music. I mean, and I'm so jaded.

726
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm just around everything all the time. But you know,

727
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: the record is so good and I like to think

728
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: that I like albums, but I'm becoming more add the

729
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: longer I have the option to become add Honestly, it's

730
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm a big album guy. But then

731
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: it's like, if I don't love love the artist, I'll

732
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: just check out a few songs, skip over a couple

733
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: and yeah. So I find myself being a huge hypocrite

734
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: and going, uh yeah. That being said, like your entire

735
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: project is a plus, and I haven't said that about

736
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: anything and probably maybe old dominion, but other than that,

737
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: and like a couple of Casey records ago, like it's

738
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: as good as anything I've heard in years. Thank you,

739
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: like just just love it, and um, I mean from

740
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: from the Beginning and Wilder Days is the first song

741
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: on the record, right, it's the first it's track one,

742
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: and it's the first one you wrote. Why why I

743
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: put that one up front? Was it because you wrote

744
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: it first? I think we just really I think it's important,

745
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: especially too, like anybody goes a record comes out and

746
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: you click on that first song right there, you want

747
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: to hook on man, Like, don't just put some kind

748
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: of weird something on there, Like I wanted to put

749
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: the best foot forward, and Sadder did too, and I

750
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: think it made sense. It was it was the song

751
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: that we based the whole album around. It was the

752
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: first one and to me, I think that's really important.

753
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: You get that real core piece of that record and

754
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: then you you're like, Okay, this is the direction I

755
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: want to take it. And so it made it made

756
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: sense to put it first. Let me play a clip

757
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: of Wilder Days. Here you go, Smith, So let's talk

758
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: about this song specifically. Where did you write it, who'd

759
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: you write it with? So I actually wrote kind of

760
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: a version of Wilder Days myself and I and that's

761
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: what i'd pitched the Saddler and he was like, all right,

762
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: this is this is great. Obviously needed to change some

763
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: things up and um, so we we kind of sat

764
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: down and and and like I said, I had to

765
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: draft it out, but we made a lot of changes

766
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad we did. I found the old

767
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: version of it that I had written one day and

768
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 1: I listened to it and I was like, dear God,

769
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: I would never want anybody to hear this version of it.

770
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: But we we sat down and really he helped me

771
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: too as a writer. You know, I'd never co written

772
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: with anybody, and so he really helped kind of push

773
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: me to to dig a little deeper and and and

774
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: be more honest and authentic with it and them, so

775
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: we God, we worked on that song. I'll never forget.

776
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: There's just like parts of it like the Wilder Days,

777
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: just singing Wilder Days. I stood in front of that

778
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: microphone for a solid forty five minutes, singing that one

779
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: line over and over and over, and I was like,

780
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: I never want to hear the song again. Which which

781
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: part Wilder Days? Like that? That part of it he

782
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: made me And he was in his kitchen fretting chicken

783
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: for tacos and he would be like, yeah, you can

784
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: keep going, I think you and I could see that

785
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: part of my sleep now. I hated it, but he

786
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I remember we finally finished that song up. It was

787
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: like eleven PM, and I was like, all right, I'm

788
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna go Beck He's like, no, no no, no, we're gonna

789
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: go to Jenny's ice Cream and we're gonna listen to this.

790
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: So we go and we're getting his Honda element and

791
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: he is blasting Wilder Days as long as he are,

792
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: as loud as he possibly can on our way to

793
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: get Jenny's ice Cream at like eleven PM. But he

794
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: was so excited. And that's how I knows, like man,

795
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: this man believes in me more than you know, anybody else.

796
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Your version wasn't melodically the same? Or did you change lyrics? Yeah,

797
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: we change lyrics and it made more sense and flows better.

798
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: You know, I there for a long time, didn't like

799
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have the bridge or any of that in there.

800
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: But then, of course Saddler is a guitar god, so

801
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, he really came in with the riffs and

802
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of helping me mix things up to where it

803
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: wasn't just so repetitive. The whole song is all of

804
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: the information in the song true Chicago is at a

805
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: real reference? Yeah? Or did you just rhyme words? No?

806
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: They were, They were all real references. Yeah. And does

807
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: the person that the song is about This is the

808
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: question You'll get asked ten thousand times. Do they know

809
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: it's about them? Yeah? For sure? Yeah. And have they

810
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: reached out? No? No, no, And if if if that

811
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: person hears this, um, you know, it's all good. It's

812
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: all good now, you know, young and dumb and times

813
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: were different than then. But was this the person at

814
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: nineteen the same person? No? Different person? Ye? Matches of

815
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: metaphors Track number two And I'm not going in order

816
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: for any reason other than like when I listened to

817
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: these songs when I was listening, because I've listened to

818
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: the record one hundred times at this point. Um, I

819
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: think it's the only album I have saved right now

820
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: my entire Spotify, to be honest with you, And so

821
00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: this is maybe my second favorite song, Baby Can't Use

822
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: You right now? That was the song that you a

823
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: new new song you wrote for this or did you

824
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: have a version of it already as well? Now this one,

825
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: this one UM just wrote straight through. Um, I had, uh,

826
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: basically the verses in the chorus down and then uh

827
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: Sathern kind of helped me add the bridge in there.

828
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: That was one thing before I met Southern, I wasn't

829
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: putting any bridges or anything in my songs, so they

830
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: were pretty pretty straightforward and repetitive. And uh, he kinda

831
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: he kind of helped me there get into adding some

832
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: more dynamic to these songs. But we we wrote that.

833
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: I had that one. Actually stayed up all night one night.

834
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I drink way too much coffee that day and I'm

835
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: when when I set up and it was pouring rain

836
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: at my house, and uh, I didn't have an internet

837
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: or anything where I was staying at the time, it

838
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: wasn't working, and I just set up and I wrote

839
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: that song. Do you write lyric first? Do you write

840
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: a melody first? Or do you do you have an idea?

841
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: Like what is it for you? Weirdly enough, I hear

842
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: the words in my head. I hear them in a melody,

843
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: So like when I when I write a phrase out,

844
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: that's how I hear it in my head. And so

845
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: I try to just figure out that on guitar. Okay,

846
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: you did your hands like you're playing keys. I don't

847
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: know why. Yeah, I don't refuse that process. That's a

848
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: weird guitar. That's a very weird guitar. Yeah, I don't

849
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: know why I did that, but yeah, I meant like that.

850
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: I promised to know how to play a guitar. Confusing

851
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: a bit, at least at first when I heard had

852
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: heard of you, um the Morgan wan wall and Morgan Wade. Yeah,

853
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: I think I was typing in your name and Morgan.

854
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was just do people often not

855
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: confuse you too? But do they ever call you Morgan

856
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: Wallen on accident because it's just in their head? Like

857
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: I've been tagged in stuff. Yeah, and and and then

858
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: they're like, oops, yeah, you know, yeah that kind of thing.

859
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: It's both yeah, oh yeah, yeah a second letter. Yeah.

860
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: Was he already on the scene when you were here

861
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: and starting? Yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. No

862
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: no talk of changing Morgan Wade like Morgan Bade or something. No, no,

863
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: no one, no one came up with that. No. No.

864
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: There's also a bite a probi mxer. Yes, And it

865
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: is funny because his friends and fans and stuff will

866
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: tag him and stuff and they'll be like, dude, what

867
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: the hell we you know, we we thought you were right,

868
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, making jokes. And I've actually messaged him about

869
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: it before. So I was watching on maybe it was

870
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: last night or the night before you were doing a

871
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: live TikTok last night where that was last night night, Yeah,

872
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: and you're playing are you reading the comments as you're

873
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: on there or are you just I can't because I

874
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: read a couple of comments and they made me want

875
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: to laugh, and so it kind of like messes me up,

876
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: and I'm like, but it's I've never I've never done

877
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: the TikTok, I've never really been on TikTok, And so

878
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: my team was like, we need you need to like

879
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: do a TikTok live, you know, and so they kind

880
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: of helped me set that up. And you know, try

881
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: not to read the comments too. I don't read the

882
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: comments to anything. I think people like you, though. That's

883
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: a difference in you and me. People have a lot

884
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: of opinions about me, and they go all different directions,

885
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: not all good. I think people like you. I think

886
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: yours would be pretty positive. I do want to play reckless.

887
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: Here is Some'm a reckless beach love. So you wrote

888
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: every song on this, which I would have expected, especially

889
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: since you said you just write songs all the time.

890
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: What's the oldest song on this new rojas Um? The

891
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: oldest song would be ment and Um. That's the first

892
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: song that Saddler had like looked up of mine and

893
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: heard and he was like, you really need to put

894
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: men on there. It was it was one of his

895
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: favorite songs, and it almost didn't make it because I

896
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: was just so tired of it. Um. I was like,

897
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, you always want to

898
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: put your news songs out right exactly, and and he

899
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: just really loved that song so much, and I'm glad

900
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: we put it on there. Um, But that that's the

901
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: oldest song. Have you done any sort of radio tour

902
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: yet where you go to radio stations? Have you done

903
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: that at all? Yeah? Um, yeah, yeah yeah. I Mean

904
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: it's been kind of kind of weird with COVID, you know,

905
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of different protocols and a lot

906
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: of people are you know, still work it from home

907
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But does everyone go straight to

908
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: the tattoos first? Um? Most of the time, yeah, they're like, oh,

909
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: all right, love love with the Tide? Who heard kissing

910
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: Kate Kates? Yep? And so what is your stock answer

911
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: when someone goes, loo, what's up with the tattoos? Yeah?

912
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: A lot of times I'm just like, oh, I forgot

913
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: I had tattoos, you know. I just say something like

914
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: and then they're just like, okay, this girl, when did

915
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: because you mentioned earlier and I've held on to it

916
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: because I'm the same way. I get addicted to things

917
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: quickly and hard. When did the tattoo things start? And

918
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: was it all at once or did you just kind

919
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: of just mess around with a little bit? No? No,

920
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm also my freshman year of college. I remember I

921
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: was sitting in my apartment and one of my friends

922
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: was there and she was just like, I think you

923
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: would like tattoos. I don't know why she said that,

924
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, I should do that. I think

925
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: I had ninety dollars in my bank account and I

926
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: went and I got a tattoo, and then I was

927
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I really liked this. And I think

928
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 1: a few weeks later I went and got like three

929
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: more at one time. A few weeks later, yeah, I

930
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: got paid between with the goal of covering. Is the

931
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: goal now to cover your whole body? No, I don't

932
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: really know what my goal is anymore. I'm gonna be

933
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: honest with you. The you know, getting tattoos at nineteen

934
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: and then getting tattoos now at twenty seven, the pain

935
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: is a lot different. I swear it hurts more now.

936
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just because I've ran out of all

937
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: the easy spots. Um And I used to say, Oh,

938
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get like one. I have one on

939
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: the inside of my arm. I was like, that's it.

940
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: And you know, it was like, I won't go past here,

941
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: and I promise my mom wouldn't go past here. And

942
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: then here we are and I have my throat tattooed,

943
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: and literally the throats hardcore. I'll tell you, I'm gonna

944
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: be honest with you. It really was not It wasn't

945
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't bad. My chest is not filled in because

946
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: that hurts so bad. I felt that in my throat.

947
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: I didn't feel my throat at all. So your chest

948
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: you felt, yeah, in my throat, but the throat in

949
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: your throat, No, I didn't feel it. The throat really

950
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. And I would like to relate. I've

951
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: got like four or five, but the only thing that

952
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: hurt me was up near this crease of the arm. Yeah,

953
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: but that's like I'm like a second grader being like

954
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: luka my boo boo, and you're like a college graduate

955
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: like that's nothing, kid, No, no it. I complain like

956
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: the whole time. But yeah, my mom used to be

957
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: kind of like, please don't. But I mean the other

958
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: day she's like, when did you get that clover on

959
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: your hand? I was like, oh cold, She's like that's

960
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: really cute. I'm just like, what is happening? It does

961
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: in a way, not that you need it, but especially

962
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: whenever you're being introduced, it does legitimize you as like

963
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: I'm an artist, Like regardless of how you feel about

964
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: me or if you like my music, Like I'm an artist.

965
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm not a prepared little pr singer. Yeah, Like you

966
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: are a legitimate artist before you even hear you sing,

967
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: because visually you go, well, this girl is enough round. Yeah,

968
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: and you know that right, like you know it. You

969
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: know that, like people believe you because it's almost like

970
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: you have the story written on you. Yeah, Like people

971
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: know I'm a nerd because of my glasses. I wear

972
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: glasses because I need them, but they're part of the story, right,

973
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: I have big, dark, grim glasses, and they're like that

974
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: guy's a nerd and he's probably pretty smart and he

975
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: probably got pounded as a kid. And that's why it's

976
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: kind of funny, like you can tell just boop glasses here.

977
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: I am same thing with you, Like I look at you.

978
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: I haven't met you before now. I've been a big fan,

979
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: but I haven't met you until now. And I go one.

980
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: She's a hardcore about it whatever she's involved in, because

981
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: she's committed to these tattoos. So she feels and then

982
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: two like I wouldn't I wouldn't mess with you, like

983
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: I feel like you would shank me. That's what I

984
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: feel like it would happened too, Like that's I wouldn't

985
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: cross you because you can take the punishment of a

986
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: needle in a tattoo over and over. I mean, am

987
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I wrong? I pass out when I get my blood

988
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: drawnk Okay, I don't need to you don't need to

989
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: kill would I have to feel? Well? I'm just I'm

990
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: just being honest here. We've we've talked about honesty. I'm honest. Um. Yeah, yeah,

991
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad you see it that way. A

992
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of people are just like she's just got so

993
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: many different ones she can't make her mind up. Okay,

994
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: you know I never thought about it like that. You

995
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: thought about it in a positive way. I thought about

996
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: it in a way of you have committed to who

997
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah. I like that way better. Yeah. But

998
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: is it now she's running a second one? Is it

999
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: because you're good? She's like, it's actually because I really,

1000
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I really did. And I had this conversation with somebody, um,

1001
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: just about how you know, I am tired of just

1002
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: like listening to what everybody else wants me to do.

1003
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, it doesn't it doesn't matter

1004
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day. Those people they

1005
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: just have They have to live with their choices. I

1006
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: have to live with mine. And I'm not gonna go

1007
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: not do something because I'm afraid of what. You know.

1008
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: I remember when I got my hands tattooed. I had

1009
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: somebody look at me and they're like, well, I hope

1010
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: the music thing pans out because you're not gonna be

1011
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: able to do anything else. And I'm like, okay, I don't.

1012
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna worry about that, but well, I'm not

1013
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna get my hands tattooed because I might not be

1014
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: able to to do this music thing. And the hands

1015
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: are hardcore. They're hardcore. I'm glad I got the I'm

1016
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: glad I got those done a long time ago because

1017
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: they hurt. What do we see? Hold them up? Rock?

1018
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: Rock roll? Rock and roll? What's on the underside of

1019
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: this stay true? They're like old sailor tattoos. I ever had,

1020
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: you know, we ever wanted to sail I ever thought

1021
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: about getting on the old ship. You could do that

1022
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: if music didn't work out without your That's true. I

1023
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: could be a sailor sailor. What else? What else are

1024
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: you passionate about? Shoes, sneakers, I do like sneakers. I

1025
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: saw you got some new ones. Yeah, I mean again,

1026
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: I give you a quick hit I have. I come

1027
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: from addicts. I'm an addict. Just I've never had a

1028
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: drink because I know I'll drink everything got you. And

1029
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: I never do drugs because I know i'll do. I'll

1030
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: win at drugs. There's not even a game, but I'll win.

1031
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: But what happens is I put that in other places

1032
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: because I know me. Yeah yeah, And so anything that

1033
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: I do, I run through like the kool Aid Man

1034
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: through a wall. I don't know if you know what

1035
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: kool aid man is. Do I do? I'm like, hello,

1036
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm now doing this right and shoes For probably three years,

1037
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: if I had a couple of minutes, I would just

1038
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: get on the phone and go. And I was starting

1039
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: to make money for the first time. Oh no, I

1040
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: get this again. And I was like, well, I want

1041
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: and I never got. I was always jealous of kids

1042
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: who had nice shoes. Yeah, And in the first like

1043
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: check I ever got where, I was like, wow, I'm

1044
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: not living paycheck to paycheck. I bought a pair Jordan's

1045
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Like they mean so much to me because I never

1046
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: had nice shoes I would go to martzales and get Yeah,

1047
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: that's that's how I feel about my so up until

1048
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: I guess I've had my car for about a year

1049
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: or now. Um, I never had a car ac ever,

1050
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: never had a carton, none of that, and legit for

1051
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: the up until I was doing pretty good. You know,

1052
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm making finally making money and stuff, and my friends, really,

1053
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: why are you still driving a two thousand and seven

1054
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: Honda Odyssey. Why are you driving this minivan? I was like, well,

1055
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: a mom was gonna get rid of it and get

1056
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: a new vein in and so I gave them fifteen

1057
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: hundred dollars and I took that minivan and I was like,

1058
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: the lumbar support is great. And so finally I was like,

1059
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: all right, I mean I could not make my mind

1060
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: up on one I wanted. And I finally went and

1061
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: got me a little Mercedes C three hundreds and she

1062
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: never turns the air condition off, even in the winter

1063
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: and maybe thirty degrees. I knew I would beat my

1064
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: mom's Like, you're gonna be the first person to go

1065
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: buy them a brand new Mercedes, drive it off the

1066
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: lot and there'll be no AC in that, Like you

1067
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: will be asked to have it removed that I get

1068
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: my first bus. Yea, the heat in the ac went

1069
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 1: out in the front of it. I was like, this

1070
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: is this is kind of funny to me. I was like,

1071
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta find a little humor, but I

1072
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: can I get it with like the shoes, which I've

1073
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: been checking out your Balencia augu shoes. I love Balencia Auga.

1074
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: There's stuff so weird and I love it. These are

1075
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: the greatest because they're nice. They're also tennis shoe. I

1076
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: love a flip flopp or a slide. Yeah, and these

1077
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: are my winter slides. There you go. And I like that.

1078
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: I love shoes and I spend too much money on

1079
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: shoes because I didn't have any money to buy shoes,

1080
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: right and right. And I've heard you have nineteen Mercedeses

1081
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: now yeah, I just got you. Well that's different. I

1082
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: had nineteen and then and then um now I have

1083
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: twenty two. So you're a shoes person that too. Yeah. Yeah,

1084
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: what what what do you like the most? Probably I'm

1085
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: all about the jordans Man yeah, consistently yea, yeah, clean too. Yeah,

1086
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm very weird about and that's probably a problem. Um

1087
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: sue right now, I just live and you know, I'm

1088
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: not home much, so I have like a one bedroom

1089
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: cabin out by the river. It's like real peaceful shoes

1090
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: just piled up Jordan's because I was getting in these

1091
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: lotteries and you know, you put it in and then

1092
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: if you get them, you get them. If you don't,

1093
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: you don't want for there. For like a long time,

1094
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: I was not getting any I was getting really stressed

1095
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: with Then I would just start putting in for like

1096
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: four or five different pair and then it was like, congratulations,

1097
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: you got all these, and it's like, oh gosh. But

1098
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: I went out to LA and went in some of

1099
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: those stores where they're just like up the wall, awesome. Right,

1100
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: do you have stock X Do you ever use that?

1101
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: I do use stock X them. Yeah. It takes a

1102
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: little long to get in and I'm a little I

1103
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: don't really have to pay, but I will buy occasionally, yeah,

1104
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: some stuff stock X, especially if it's stuff I can't.

1105
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: I bought some pink New Balance. The thing about New

1106
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: Balance now is now they know they're cool. They now know,

1107
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: and so now they're just jacking the prices though. Yea,

1108
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: like when it was just a good dad shoe. Yeah,

1109
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: those were the days. That's so yeah, all that's coming

1110
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: back but now new balanced again. Hey, Mike, you got

1111
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: a question about one of her tattoos. Yeah, I've been

1112
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: thinking about getting a symptoms tattoo and I know you

1113
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: have Maggie Simpson. Like what inspire that? Uh? I don't know.

1114
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: I just thought it was really funny on all the

1115
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: Christmas and like Cold episodes where they would dress her

1116
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: up and she looked like a little star. Literally, there's

1117
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: no story behind that. I will say, Um, I don't

1118
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: know why I'm saying this, but I so I have

1119
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: a new, newly diagnosed bladder condition. Very fun but it's

1120
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: weird because I was going to my doctor and he

1121
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like a very stoic command

1122
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: didn't have anything. And then all of a sudden he

1123
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: was there washing his hands in his Hey is that

1124
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: a Maggie tattoo on your leg? And I was like yeah,

1125
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: and he was like, Simpsons is still going, They're still

1126
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: making episodes, and that was it and they walked out

1127
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: the room and I was like, well, he knew he

1128
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: knew Maggie Simpson was so I was like, I guess

1129
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: I got it for some reason that tattoo brought you

1130
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: guys together. It brought us together badder. But that's a

1131
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: little awkward. Yeah, yeah, but the tattoo is what brought

1132
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: us together. I'll share a little with you two. I

1133
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: have an odd IBS issue, which I never knew even

1134
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: was a thing. Yeah, and I had to go in

1135
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: and get a but the old tube what's it called

1136
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: that colon hospy and an endoscopy and they put you under, Yeah,

1137
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: and you come up and nothing was wrong with me.

1138
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: And I went through all that work and nothing was

1139
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: wrong with me. They can't find it. So maybe I

1140
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: just have what you have. Yeah, Yeah, it's uh. I've

1141
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: been dealing with that. I was like seven and towards

1142
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: the end of well, I didn't know, and then towards

1143
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: the end of the last tour, and then I was

1144
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: doing radio stuff that really tired and really grumpy and

1145
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: was like losing my mind, like hallucinating. Couldn't figure out

1146
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: what was going on. I went to the doctor and

1147
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: that's what it is, and so they put me on

1148
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: like a so to get like a catheter once a week.

1149
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: Took twenty years to figure because I was just going

1150
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: to doctors and they were just like giving me an

1151
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: antibiotic and like writing it off and I was never

1152
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: getting better and they didn't like actually check. So now

1153
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm like immune to a lot of antibiotics because of

1154
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: all that sucks. Yeah, so it's been fun now and

1155
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: nobody can't fix you because they overprescribed your about Yeah,

1156
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: but that doctor liked my Sympsons tattooed and this has

1157
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: been a medical minute with Morgan. I do want to

1158
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: mention that the deluxe edition of your record is out

1159
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: and it the next six songs. The last six songs

1160
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: came out on the twenty eighth. What's day the first Yep,

1161
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: that's been like four days, so I haven't had time

1162
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: to listen to these over and over and over again

1163
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: yet only one time all the way through. Um, so

1164
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: the six songs came out. Is that what the label

1165
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: said they were going to do, is that what they

1166
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: said that they could do for you is put out

1167
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: a longer version. That was actually my idea, Like from

1168
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: the beginning, I knew that. I always like when artists

1169
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: do that, you know, they go out and they put

1170
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: the dulux out, and um, I mean like to me,

1171
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: especially if it's a record that I really like and

1172
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: then they go add a few more songs out with that.

1173
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: I always find that to be really cool and and

1174
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: they were really cool with that. So yeah, here is

1175
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: through your eyes Charlotte face. Kind of think if we're

1176
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: getting close to wrapping this thing up because we've been

1177
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: here for an hour. Um, I've got to wonder and

1178
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: I've got to imagine now that when you're playing shows

1179
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: and are you still doing shows with Ryan Herder? I am, yeah, yeah,

1180
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: like one of my buds, Like it's the greatest guy.

1181
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: He's super cool, super nice. I have to wonder though,

1182
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: if people are starting to know your songs a lot

1183
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: more and you're noticing it in the crowd. Now, Yeah,

1184
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Wilder Days. We always play that one last, and if

1185
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: they don't know any other word, they you know, it's

1186
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: any other song they know Wilder Days and it's insane.

1187
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: It's it's like, that's one of the best compliments you

1188
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: can get as an artist, to have them singing, screaming

1189
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: every word. Are you starting to feel that, hey, I

1190
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: think I might actually make it, This might actually be

1191
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: something better than just getting a record deal, Like, are

1192
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: you starting to feel that a little bit? Yeah? Yeah,

1193
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm looking forward to you know,

1194
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: we're working on getting me my own like headline run,

1195
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, with COVID and everything, it's been all these

1196
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: shows are getting moved and venues have been full, and

1197
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: so we've been on a lot of opening shows. But

1198
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm like really excited to get out there and do

1199
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: like my own own run. And I'm not nervous about

1200
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: it anymore because i know, like what little shows I

1201
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: have done, you know, in the past year, like just

1202
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: me like I can sell those out and and that's

1203
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: like a good feeling to be able to go and

1204
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: do that and have to add other dates because you're

1205
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: selling stuff out when you move into town soon, I

1206
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: need to the next three months yea months. Yeah, I

1207
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: thought that you seem like you have enough room here.

1208
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: I'll just just just you know, stack up and you

1209
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 1: probably could move in a part of the house I'd

1210
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: never even know, you know, just let yourself about the back,

1211
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, you know, I think Morganstone me under

1212
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: the bus more than than any other artists so far.

1213
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: I enjoy that. Okay, I'll ever be back. You're like,

1214
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: you're come back more. I do have to say. One

1215
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: of my best friend, she listens to you religiously every day, Yes,

1216
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: every single Yeah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, she got married, Hannah

1217
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: love it. I still call her by her maiden name,

1218
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, she listens to you all the time. And

1219
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: so I guess you you had given me like a

1220
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: shout out. You talked about me. She freaked out called

1221
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: me screaming, like she she doesn't get excit. I did

1222
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: about like a lot of stuff, but like she, she

1223
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: loves you. And so anyway, I feel like she's been

1224
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: talking about you and apparently tagging my name on your

1225
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: stuff fortheless someone has been doing that because randomly you

1226
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: would just be tagged in pictures Hannah. Thanks. Yeah, I

1227
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: don't know. It's been like she's been doing that for years.

1228
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: So I feel like I really owe her, like a hey,

1229
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm here right now. So well, it's been really good

1230
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: to meet you twice We've had to delay this. Yeah,

1231
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm just a massive fan, you know,

1232
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: without ever meeting you. And sometimes I'm a massive fan

1233
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: of then I meet somebody and I'm like, man, I

1234
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: wish I wasn't, but that's not the case. Here. Cool,

1235
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: You're cool, awesome. Yeah, you had to sit right now,

1236
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: Susie's not. Here's the thing. I don't have to say that,

1237
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't say that, so, but I don't even

1238
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: need to wish your success like you're you're really really good.

1239
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: You're authentic. Um, you know, you have a you have

1240
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: something to say, you have a perspective. You know, that's

1241
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: so hard to have an original perspective. And I think

1242
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: the key to having an original perspective is just share

1243
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: your own. Sometimes people are afraid to do that, and

1244
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: I think you've done that, and so I'm just I'm

1245
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: glad you're here. I can't wait for you to move

1246
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: to town. And I'm a big fan, so pencil me in,

1247
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: all right, Fan number ninety four thousand and six. Okay, okay, okay,

1248
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: as long as I have my spot, I feel pretty good.

1249
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to read read it our video guy read

1250
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: you get one question. We always make read ask a

1251
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: question at the very end. All right, you say you're

1252
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: a big Elvis fan. Have you ever been to Graceland

1253
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: in Memphis? Twice? Twice? Twice? Really? I have? Yeah, it's

1254
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: it's funny. Um. I went once when I was like,

1255
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, by like ten, it felt like the

1256
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: longest drive from Virginia ever. Um, but then I went

1257
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: again a couple of years ago. Really, yeah, I've never been,

1258
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: but I knew you would have a good inside. Yeah

1259
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: it's it's um, you should. And now the fella here

1260
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: with you see your bodyguard. We actually just met who

1261
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: who who? He's my driver. He's not your driver. We

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Speaker 1: actually he did drive me here. Okay, I don't have

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Speaker 1: my car out here off because I didn't see when

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Speaker 1: you said Mercedes, I didn't see a Mercedes coming. Oh no, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's at home. Still, it's at home still. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: literally I just got in from Key West yesterday and

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Speaker 1: i'll leave tomorrow, would go to Boston. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. Everybody. Check out Reckless, the Deluxe

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Speaker 1: and just audition just came out. If you were like

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Speaker 1: me and you gobbled up the entire record, six new songs, Um,

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Speaker 1: you're killing it. This this song is gonna be a massive,

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Speaker 1: massive hit. And that's all. I have nothing else to say,

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Speaker 1: because I've said everything good and I mean all of it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not really gonna say much opposite of this

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Speaker 1: when you leave. Cool job. All right, there she is

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Speaker 1: you guys. Follow Morgan at Morgan Wade Music, Morgan Wade Music.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Morgan, Yeah, thank you.