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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Dave Grohl.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just playing lone with you.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: There, I'm Nora with me as always is Sarah Oda. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Welcome.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. We're on FaceTime.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a first for us.

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Speaker 1: It's the first separated intro. I feel together though, yes,

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Speaker 1: I feel you. Okay.

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Speaker 4: So today we had the incredible honor of hosting a

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Speaker 4: guest artist that I know, for me and I think

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Speaker 4: for both of us, was completely a dream come true.

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Speaker 4: And by host, I mean we went to his studio

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Speaker 4: and yes, he hosted us really and ate his dunkin Donuts.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, our guest today is the incomparable singer, songwriter, storyteller,

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Speaker 4: extraordinary frontman of the Foo Fighters and drummer of Nirvana,

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Speaker 4: consummate artists in every sense of the word, and just

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Speaker 4: badass human all around, Dave Grol.

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Speaker 1: We had so much fun hanging out. I have not

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Speaker 1: really got to hang with Dave in many, many years.

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Speaker 1: We recorded together about twenty years ago for one of

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Speaker 1: his albums, and that was the first time I met

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Speaker 1: him We've hung over the years many times, and we

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Speaker 1: have a shared manager, John Silva, who we talk about

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Speaker 1: a little bit in this episode. We also talk about

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Speaker 1: songwriting and a lot of music nerds stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as like kids of the nineties growing up with

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Speaker 4: Nirvana and the Foo Fighters. It's hard to imagine not

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Speaker 4: being influenced by him and these bands and these songs

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Speaker 4: are just sort of the soundtrack to so much of

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Speaker 4: my life, like from back then through now. In fact,

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Speaker 4: they just released their latest studio album earlier this year

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Speaker 4: called but Here We Are and you've got to check

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Speaker 1: It's really beautiful. And we caught up with Dave around

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Speaker 1: first song from this album, so it's a little bit backdated.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we had a great time hanging talking playing music.

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Speaker 1: He graced me with his drumming on one song. So

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Speaker 1: I hope you really enjoyed this episode. We had so

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Speaker 1: much fun hang in. We're gonna drop you in when

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Speaker 1: Dave is talking about the Kennedy Center Honors, which is

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Speaker 1: an event every year they hold in DC to honor

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Speaker 1: the arts, and we were together one year honoring Paul McCartney.

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Speaker 1: So that's why we got on that subject. So that's

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Speaker 1: what we start out talking about. I hope you enjoy

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Speaker 1: the episode, and please enjoy Dave Girl.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget to like us and subscribe to Nora Jones

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Speaker 4: is playing along wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Yay.

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Speaker 6: The funniest part of that whole Kennedy Center experience was

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Speaker 6: hanging out with Stephen Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he was a hoot.

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Speaker 6: He was amazing. But I got stuck behind him at

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Speaker 1: Why is he made out of a metal ring?

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Speaker 6: Ring ring ring, necklace, necklas necklace, necklace.

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Speaker 6: I know, I felt like I was at Tiffany's. It

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Speaker 6: One of the coolest things about that that weekend was

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Speaker 6: You know, you'd go to those receptions and you would

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Speaker 6: So, you know, I could hang out out with my

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that old environment that fun like all the president's

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Speaker 6: And when I was a kid, I was obsessed, fucking

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Speaker 6: But then to see Blue Lou and he was kind

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Speaker 1: That's so fun. Yeah, I mean yeah, meeting people like that,

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Speaker 6: I just I still honestly feel like that first of all,

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Speaker 6: But I never listened to Neil Diamond, so when I

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Speaker 1: When I met you, I felt really like a stone,

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Speaker 1: But when I came in to sing Virginia Moon, yeah,

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Speaker 1: something I do that's weird like that, because I grew

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Speaker 1: up air drumming to you.

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Speaker 1: I have this vivid memory of listening to never Mind

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Speaker 1: I'm a drummer on the inside waiting to come out?

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Speaker 6: Well, in our world, it's just a bunch of people.

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Speaker 1: That like I feel like we all are though. I mean,

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Speaker 9: That makes me feel so much.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't feel like it's doing this. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: How do I.

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Speaker 1: Play this song?

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 6: It's the best, whereas everything else I do, like in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let me see what does this is?

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Speaker 6: On the recording, it is, Oh my god, this is

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Speaker 6: Okay, So this is a long time ago. This is

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Speaker 1: I think that's cool though, because I think when I

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Speaker 6: Well also, and I'll explain it and maybe some of

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Speaker 1: Out songs on the That's cool the way you think

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Speaker 1: What that is? No, I'm not going to it's funny.

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Speaker 6: Actually there was once when there was this. We decided

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Speaker 6: So I have a book called The Storyteller. It's available

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Speaker 2: He finally was like.

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Speaker 1: Hysterical, all right, let's see if we can do this.

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Speaker 6: One, two, three four.

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Speaker 10: You and I were too old and tortured souls repaired

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Speaker 3: In alife, just somebody's growing up.

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Speaker 6: No fear of here, benife.

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Speaker 6: Time will turn us into statue.

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Speaker 10: Essentially, we got by though we never needed much slive

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Speaker 11: We got high.

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Speaker 3: It was heaven. It was help fly over them.

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Speaker 6: Broken wings. We are just stortin every people.

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Speaker 8: You and me.

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Speaker 10: Tom will turn us in the statues eventually, just to

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Speaker 6: Human me tam will turn us send the statues then.

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Speaker 10: Eventually 'sous stordinied people.

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Speaker 13: You and me.

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Speaker 3: Tamil turnis in the statues.

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Speaker 6: Itally, Oh that's nice. Wow, I haven't done that. I

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Speaker 2: It's a heavy song.

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Speaker 1: It's really really beautiful. That was so pretty. Holy moly,

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Speaker 1: thanks for letting me playing piano. You should play it?

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Speaker 6: Do you fucking kidding me? There's no way I would

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a CE size and then there's a that's

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Speaker 1: the best one. It's like a B flat, but it's

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00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: got all these extensions, got like a major seven and

443
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: a nine. You know, I noticed learning these. It's like

444
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: a it's like numbers to say what what note? You're

445
00:27:54,040 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: playing corp It's pretty because you do a lot of what.

446
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: God, I'm gonna learn how to read music right now?

447
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: You do a lot of like major seven chords in

448
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: these songs.

449
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 6: I'll play a major seven?

450
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 8: Wait?

451
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 6: What was that?

452
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

453
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 6: Is that it?

454
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

455
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 6: I mean it's funny because I literally don't know the names.

456
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 6: I know, like the Cowboy chords, but I don't know,

457
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 6: which is kind of awesome because I don't ever know

458
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 6: like if something's right or wrong. Like I don't have

459
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 6: any version of right or wrong. It's like there's no wrong.

460
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 6: Well yeah, but sometimes, like I would never encourage someone

461
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 6: to not take lessons, because I think it's great to

462
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 6: like you know your hands and the thing where you're

463
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 6: going or whatever. But I do like the mystery of

464
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 6: really not knowing. Uh, you know, when I was writing

465
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: that I cannot play Virginia Moon, I totally forgot it.

466
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, we gotta do it. I mean,

467
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: that's it's like a jazz song.

468
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 6: Wait, ship, what are those chords?

469
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't know? Honestly, I had a hard time figuring

470
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: them out. D dunder right, But I feel like you're

471
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: going chromatic? Is that how you wrote it? You just

472
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: kind of went chromatic and then use your ears. But

473
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: that's the way you have to do it, right.

474
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 6: Okay, Well let's move on before we get to that,

475
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 6: because who knows that's anyway?

476
00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: So so music music, sad, I I want to ask you.

477
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: I was I was at the Gordon show yesterday and

478
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: I got to meet like Billie Eilish for a second. Yeah,

479
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: and I was stone cold, sober, like nothing. I'm a fan, like,

480
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: I love her. I think she's amazing. Sure, and I

481
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I just said the stupidest thing, you know, Like when

482
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: you get to meet somebody that you like and you

483
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: want to you want them to think you're cool, but

484
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: you also want them to know that you think they're cool.

485
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 6: And what do you think I've been doing this whole time?

486
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: So this is my question for you. How do you

487
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: do what you do? I feel like everybody, as I've learned,

488
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: everybody is just awkward and nervous all the time. I

489
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: used to think it was just me, but it's everybody.

490
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: But you don't seem like that. Oh do you still

491
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: have that stuff inside? Because you just seem like one

492
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: of the least I'm a mass you seem the least

493
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: like that of everyone I've ever met.

494
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 6: Well, I think maybe I definitely get nervous when I

495
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 6: meet people that i'd really admire or people that I've

496
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 6: wanted to meet. But no, you know, I think that

497
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 6: it might be that both of my parents were very social.

498
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

499
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 6: So my dad working on Capitol Hill or working in politics,

500
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 6: it's like he dealt with people right, and he could

501
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 6: work a room, like he could hang with the jazz

502
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 6: musicians and talk jazz. He was a classically trained flatus

503
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 6: and a super jazz nerd. He could hang with the

504
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 6: jazz musicians or like Alan Ginsburg and then go like

505
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 6: party with Bob Dole or whatever. Like he could really exactly,

506
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 6: so he could do that. And my mother is a

507
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 6: public school teacher. You know, both of them also were

508
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 6: like in communications. I know that sounds so nerdy, but

509
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 6: you know, my father was really good at public speaking.

510
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 6: You could write speeches, He wrote speeches, and he was

511
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 6: like a pr guy. And then my mother, she taught

512
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 6: public speaking and she dealt with fucking teenagers, you know,

513
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 6: Like it's one of the reasons why I think I

514
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 6: had such a great childhood. I really did, because, you know,

515
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 6: being raised by a public school teacher, it's like she

516
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 6: understood the mind of a child in in all of

517
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 6: its phases and could really like sympathize or empathize or whatever.

518
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 6: It is, like the shit I was going through as

519
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 6: a teenager, as like a rebellious punk rocker. It's like

520
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 6: she dealt with that bullshit all day long. But I

521
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 6: was her kids, so like, you know, there was real love.

522
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 6: But I don't know. I mean I always think, like

523
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 6: imagine you imagine a backstage like you're hosting your friends

524
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 6: at a barbecue or something, and you know, I like

525
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 6: to make sure everyone's got a d and its happy.

526
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 6: But then also when you go out in front of

527
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 6: a bunch of people to play music, I used to

528
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 6: get I used to get really fucking nervous, like nervous nervous.

529
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: I had an anxiety attack once on stage at a

530
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 6: Nirvana gig, and this set off like a good ten

531
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 6: years of anxiety before every show. Really where it was

532
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 6: before the record Nevermind came out and we were opening

533
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 6: or no, maybe it was our own show. I can't remember.

534
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 6: It might have been opening for Dinosaur Junior. But it

535
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 6: was at the Warfield and the curtain was closed and

536
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 6: we were we were gonna we were opening the set

537
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 6: with the song Polly, which is just Kurt on guitar

538
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 6: and me just sitting there and singing backups and then

539
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 6: like hitting one symbol. So no way to like exercise

540
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 6: any weird nerves or anxiety.

541
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: It's like your hands are tied down a little bit.

542
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 6: It's terrible. And so you're like strapped into this ride.

543
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 6: It's not moving. And so the stage hand guy who

544
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 6: was probably like wired on blow or whatever, he kept

545
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 6: coming over like two minutes, are you ready? Two minutes.

546
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 6: I'm like no, I'm totally fine. I've never been nervous

547
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 6: before in my life. And then he's like one minute.

548
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 6: You got one minute? Oh my god, and I'm just

549
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: like okay, Jesus fun Christ. And I wanted to make

550
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 6: sure that my kick drum was in place. I go

551
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 6: doush and hit it and the PA was on it.

552
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 6: Boom and the audience goes wow. Right as the curtains

553
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 6: open and the war field it's like it's it's like

554
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 6: a wall of people, you know, it's really tall with

555
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 6: a balcony. And I was just like and I started

556
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 6: having this, I almost fainted. Whoa god. It was terrible.

557
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 6: At every show from then on, I was fucking terrified.

558
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: Every show for ten food fighters whatever festivals. That's crazy.

559
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: It just set it off.

560
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 8: Dude.

561
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 6: I couldn't get I couldn't get rid of it. It

562
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 6: was terrible. And then I don't remember why I changed.

563
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 6: But now when I walk out on stage, it's like

564
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 6: I see people that I've seen for like thirty years almost,

565
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: and like that the kid in the front row who

566
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 6: was always in the front row is now an adult

567
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 6: with a mustache and his kid is on his shoulders.

568
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: You remember these people in the front.

569
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 6: I remember faces, like I swear, you know. But that's

570
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 6: the thing, because I also like engage with the audience,

571
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 6: and I like to say, like, Hey, what's up. We're here,

572
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 6: you know, Hiah, let's go for the next three hours

573
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 6: or whatever. But to be able to like really to

574
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 6: feel comfortable in that sort of connection or communication where

575
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 6: you're just like you can really see the people in

576
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 6: the nosebleeds. Yeah, and I got way off track with

577
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 6: that fucking question, but but no, it.

578
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: Relates to everything. I mean, it's interesting because you know,

579
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: you seem so good at being around people. Is basically

580
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: the question I do.

581
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 6: But I also like getting stuck in traffic. Sometimes you like.

582
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: It getting stuck in try myself so that you can

583
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: like look at people next to you.

584
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 6: And I'm like here in my car, now that is that? Yeah,

585
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 6: Like I just get to go like.

586
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: Because you are you exhausted yourself.

587
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 6: It's so tired of being myself.

588
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: No, but like yeah, I mean it's hard to be alone.

589
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean you also have a big family, you have, yes,

590
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: a big band, and it's really rare to be alone.

591
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: Right, well, this is one of the reasons. But like

592
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 6: I'll wake up before the sun, Like I wake up

593
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 6: at fucking four thirty or five in the morning. Oh wow,

594
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 6: just so I get a good two hours.

595
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: Of like quiet and then it's like wow, yeah.

596
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 6: But no, I mean you know, I also love I

597
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 6: like to meet people.

598
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, well cool, it is fucking you.

599
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 6: Get to meet so many people doing this thing where

600
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 6: it's like I really do like meeting people and talking

601
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: with them, and it's great. You know in Virginia, growing

602
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 6: up in people talk to each other in.

603
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: Virginia, That's true. It's a different thing.

604
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 6: You kind of like you're like you're at the subway,

605
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 6: sandwich place or whatever, and you wind up having a

606
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 6: conversation for like seven minutes. Maybe this is why I

607
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 6: talk too much? I don't know.

608
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: I talk a lot sometimes, Like if somebody asked me

609
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: directions in New York City, I'll go above and beyond

610
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: and they're like walking away, like okay, dude, I'm I'm

611
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: sorry I asked you know, like no, but you got

612
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: to go left. But then there's that store. Oh, and

613
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: there's a coffee shop. I'll talk to strangers like that,

614
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: but I won't, you know, I don't know how to

615
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: talk to people that I'm meeting always.

616
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 6: Hey, I want to play drums.

617
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: I want you to play drums so bad. It's my

618
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: favorite thing. Really in my mind I wanted. I was like,

619
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: I just want him to play drums on something and

620
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: maybe everything. Do you want to do this song? I'm

621
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: so stoked you wanted to do this song because this

622
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: is a good this is a good drummer song.

623
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: I am Lena.

624
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 14: You are the Jesus my twin in flames to win

625
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 14: me again. I am the last came before my twiny flames.

626
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 8: Let me from the ground.

627
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: You are the harder.

628
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 15: I am the second, my twin. I'm in flames, moling.

629
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: I have a names you call me by.

630
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 15: Now's when I'm on fire. Hot me.

631
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 16: Sky's my witness, the child to be stop for my

632
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 16: swim on fire, don't swim take you from semple, you

633
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 16: go over might swear I haven't clean read onto fi

634
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 16: my pockets an empty too hearty stripped back my twin

635
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 16: Kim flame when na even.

636
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 15: Patsy basketball also.

637
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: Time sweating flame.

638
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 16: I'm sorry, hold stirle Loo conten years as plain as.

639
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: Gam I love Empy.

640
00:40:39,920 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 15: I should let him. You have the learner.

641
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 14: I'm the chaser, my twin flames.

642
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: Do we meet again?

643
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 17: You just made my heart saying give me in bloom.

644
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just died. I just died inside

645
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: my sixth grade self just died. That's the best way

646
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: to end that song ever.

647
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 5: That was great.

648
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for that. Now I need a cigarette.

649
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 6: When did you start singing?

650
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: It's like church choir age five? Yeah, but I always sang.

651
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think singing is just oh like

652
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: when I was twenty, Yeah, I wrote a song in

653
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: high school. I was in this like synth. I went

654
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: to a performing arts high school. It was pretty great

655
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: and we had this like synthesis group synth ensemble. Wow,

656
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: I know nerd alert. Actually it was incredible. It was incredible.

657
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: There are these three seniors that were my idols, and

658
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: it was awesome. But the guy had, the teacher, Ken Ellingson,

659
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: had us write a song and we all like played,

660
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, somebody would take the moog base and some

661
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: all these guys played drums too. They grew up in

662
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: the church playing everything. Wow, and my song, like, I

663
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: was so scared, you know, I had never written a

664
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: song before, so I wrote this like my teacher hit

665
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: the time had just told me how to like outline

666
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: chords on the piano.

667
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 18: It was like.

668
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: It was very like smooth sort of no, no, I

669
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: mean it was not I don't know. And then the

670
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: teacher had us put all these synth strings on it.

671
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, let's build it up like the production

672
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: will be like super Yanni, and that just deflated everything

673
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: for me. I was like, I came home crying. I

674
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: didn't think Yanni was cool. Then now I kind of

675
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: kind of into it. I kind of Piani it's incredible,

676
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: but like at the time, that was not what I

677
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: was going for, and so I came home crying. Molly

678
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: he said I sounded like Yanni, and then I clammed

679
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: up after that, and I didn't write another song until

680
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: I moved to New York, and I, you know, I

681
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: was playing jazz gigs and singing all these songs that

682
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: were eighty years old. And then I went to this

683
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: songwriter club and got hooked up with all these songwriters.

684
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: I picked up a guitar and I learned four chords,

685
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: and I wrote like come Away with Me Amazing, and

686
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of a country song, you know. And it

687
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: was that simplified thing where it's just like, Okay, now

688
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm inspired.

689
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 6: You know, that's kind of this when I was a kid.

690
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 6: So I took the couple guitar lessons and then it

691
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 6: was like Mary had a little lambshit. And then my

692
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 6: mother bought me the complete Beatles anthology that just had

693
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 6: the chord charts right and the silvertone guitar with the

694
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 6: amp in the case. And I had the Beatles record.

695
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 6: So I would just sit around and look at the

696
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 6: chords and play along with the record and look at

697
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 6: the chords. And that's basically how I learned to play guitar,

698
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 6: but also the idea of composition, arrangement and harmony and

699
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 6: you know, melody and whatever. But you know, and then

700
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 6: I was listening to rush and things like that and

701
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 6: starting to get interested in the drums. But I didn't

702
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 6: have a drum set. So I had this weird like

703
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 6: captain's bed that was like this bed that had like

704
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 6: drawers under it or whatever, and I would put on

705
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 6: records my mother would bring home. We didn't have a

706
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 6: record player, so my mother would bring home those public

707
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 6: school record players, yeah, where like you take the lid

708
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 6: off and it like as a tiny speaker, and I

709
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 6: would listen to records on that and I would set up.

710
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 6: I had this chair that I would use as a

711
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 6: high hat, and then I put a pillow between my

712
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 6: legs as a snare, and then my bed be the

713
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 6: toms and the cymbals and stuff, and I would drum. Yeah,

714
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 6: that's how I learned how to play really crashaw and

715
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 6: then I would I would do that all day.

716
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: Long, and it didn't bother anybody, no, because it was.

717
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 6: Only quiet, like my mom's So lucky totally. But I

718
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 6: didn't have a normal drum set. My room was so

719
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 6: tiny too, but I didn't I didn't learn to play

720
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 6: on a drum set. So but I was, you know,

721
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 6: listening to rock songs and trying to figure out like

722
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 6: guitar leads, but I wasn't really good and like listening

723
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 6: to you know, Zeppelin, and but I wasn't any good.

724
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 6: And then I saw a punk rock band. The first

725
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 6: time I ever saw a band on stage was a

726
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 6: punk rock band in Chicago and they were called Naked

727
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: Raygun and they had It was at this tiny little bar.

728
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 6: There were maybe forty fifty people there. But they had

729
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 6: four dudes in the band. There was a bass player,

730
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 6: guitar player, singer, and drummer and they like, you know,

731
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 6: they weren't a amazing band, but it was so simple

732
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 6: and that's what inspired me the most. Where I was

733
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 6: just like, ye, shit, that song is three chords.

734
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be Oh my god, you started

735
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: playing trying to play rush.

736
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 19: I know. I was like.

737
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 8: This guy.

738
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, I could do that.

739
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 6: We can totally do that.

740
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: Totally. That makes sense. You start simple and just do it.

741
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: That's the best.

742
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 8: Yeah.

743
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 6: And I think for kids too, it's important to to

744
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 6: recognize the the simplicity and the relatability and that it's attainable,

745
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: you know, Like it's one of the things when you

746
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 6: see stuff on TV where you know you're singing these

747
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 6: seeing these singers with these like amazing voices, these really soulful,

748
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 6: established like voices, and then like this huge production and

749
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 6: you kind of forget that it's really as simple as

750
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 6: like your dad's old guitar that's in the garage he

751
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 6: hasn't touched in twenty years, like and I prefer it. Yeah,

752
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 6: pick it up and just start doing stuff and don't

753
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: be you know, don't be worried about sounding like that

754
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 6: or something else. Just like just kind of suck, you know,

755
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 6: and then keep sucking and then like get better and

756
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 6: then have your friends come over. Like I do also

757
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 6: think that it's important for when you're young to play

758
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 6: with people that you can relate to that your age,

759
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 6: your little tribe. You find your weird friends, so you

760
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 6: start doing weird shit, and before you know it, you

761
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 6: know you have a band.

762
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: So it's like the thrillingest thing, the most thrilling thing.

763
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

764
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: Also, I think when kids or or even adults even

765
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: me now, like taking a pottery glass, you know, when

766
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: you do something simple and you succeed at it, it

767
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: makes you want to keep doing it. When you do

768
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: something hard and you suck at it, you don't want

769
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: you put it down like me, It's me at the wheel. Basically,

770
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: I put that ship down and I make masks instead,

771
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, weird creepy masks.

772
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 6: You make creepy masks I do. Really?

773
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

774
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 6: Cool?

775
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: Is it? So? The new album you just announced it

776
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: this week and I'm very very excited. And I loved

777
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: the songs I've heard because you sent me a couple

778
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: and they're really really great. They're beautiful. And I love

779
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: that one that your daughter Violet sings on Geez show

780
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: me how wow. She does have a super haunting voice, which.

781
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 6: Is she has an amazing voice. And the cool thing

782
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 6: we've recorded some things together. She has amazing taste of music,

783
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 6: by the way, Like I mean, she's she's just as

784
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 6: much about Joni Mitchell as she is like the Misfits

785
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 6: or the Garden or young punk rock shit or like

786
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 6: crazy Electronica or Billie Holiday, and you know, she goes

787
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 6: deepest stuff. So when she sings, she really sings with

788
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 6: this beautiful with soul, you know. But one of her

789
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 6: favorite punk rock bands is the band X, which she

790
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 6: loves so much. And years ago we recorded an X

791
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 6: song together, the song called Nausea and uh, and we

792
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 6: did a duet and it was really cool because she

793
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: when we sing together, we totally lock in together, like

794
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 6: we're so I mean, I taught her how to talk,

795
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 6: so real thing. Yeah, it was really amazing. But yeah,

796
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 6: that that song in particular, I mean, the new records

797
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 6: really heavy. There's a lot of emotional stuff on it.

798
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 6: And so my mother passed away last year. I know, God,

799
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 6: it was hard. Sorry, But while I was with her,

800
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 6: towards the end, I was saying, I would just sit

801
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 6: and play guitar for her every day, all day long.

802
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 6: And I came up. I came up with this melody

803
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 6: and it was really pretty. And I remember at one

804
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 6: point I'd been working on it for a while and

805
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 6: I said to her. I was like, hey, I've got

806
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 6: this thing I've been working on. What do you think

807
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 6: And she kind of went yeah. But that's why I

808
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 6: turned it into the song Show Me How, which is

809
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 6: basically about my mother and her passing and Violet. I

810
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 6: thought it would be very cool because in the song,

811
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 6: you know, I'm basically saying like, don't worry, I'll take

812
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 6: care of everything, and towards the end of the song,

813
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 6: you have my daughter singing the same thing. So it's

814
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 6: kind of this cycle of life trip. It's terrible.

815
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, It's really beautiful.

816
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 6: It is the most beautiful song on the entire record.

817
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful in the way she sings the melody. Yeah,

818
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: it's really special, and I mean, yeah it's heavy, but

819
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: that's that's life. That's the ship that everybody you know

820
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: deals with. And yeah, it's so you know, it's so raw,

821
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: and and I think people people feel the same, you know.

822
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 6: I know, I wish i'd remembered it.

823
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 15: Oh.

824
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 6: I know one thing that's kind of cool that I

825
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 6: was thinking could be sort of Neto. I was talking

826
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 6: about like how I played the guitar like the drums.

827
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 6: So at some point I started getting really into this

828
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 6: sort of like fingerpicky pull off sort of thing, and

829
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 6: and just messing around with with patterns of just like

830
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 6: things that I guess sound kind of like I don't know,

831
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 6: blue grassy or country. I don't I don't even know

832
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 6: it's called. But like there was once where there was

833
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 6: once years ago where someone from a record company called

834
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 6: and they said, they said, have you heard about this

835
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 6: mine collapse in Australia a place called Beaconsfield. They're like

836
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 6: there's there's this mine collapse and there were two miners.

837
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 6: I think there were three, and maybe one didn't make it,

838
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 6: but there were two miners that were stuck in this

839
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 6: mine shaft for days, and so the rescuer was drilled

840
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 6: down I guess next to the mine shaft and contacted them.

841
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 6: Two of them were still alive, and they asked them

842
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 6: if they needed anything before they could like get them

843
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 6: out of there, and they said they wanted water and

844
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 6: an iPod with Foo Fighters music on it.

845
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

846
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 6: And so the people are record companies, like are you

847
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 6: aware of what's going on? We said no, and so

848
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 6: they told me, and so I sent them a message

849
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 6: like hey, fellas, I hope you're doing okay. We're all

850
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 6: thinking about you. And when you come out, like, beer's

851
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 6: on me, like let's go, let's do this. So so

852
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 6: the next time we went down to Australia, we were

853
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 6: actually doing a show at the Sydney Opera House. We

854
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 6: were doing this acoustic thing and I heard that Brent

855
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 6: Webb was his name, one of the miners. He was

856
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 6: going to come to the show, and so the night

857
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 6: before I thought I would write him a song and

858
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 6: perform this song just for him at the Sydney Opera

859
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 6: House thing, and I sat in bed and I kind

860
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 6: of did that thing where it was like sort of

861
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 6: like a drum riff thing. I called it the Ballad

862
00:56:33,600 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 6: of the beacon Siealed Miners.

863
00:57:42,080 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 20: It it.

864
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is awesome.

865
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 6: It was pretty cool. And then afterwards we had beers

866
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 6: that have been incredible at the hotel and he was like,

867
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 6: we were about to make the same record that Virginia

868
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 6: Moon is is it on that one? And he said,

869
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 6: he guess where you can put it on the record, right,

870
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 6: And I'm like, yeah, totally totally forgot about it.

871
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: I never thought of it.

872
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 6: Could till the last day of recording the record. I'm like, oh, fuck,

873
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 6: I promise that miner dude, So.

874
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: Is it on the record?

875
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, It's called the Ballad of the beacons Field Miners.

876
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: I love it. And you said Razor was hard. That

877
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: looks much harder.

878
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 6: Razor is a weird one.

879
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: Razor is hard, though, but that looks harder to me

880
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: as a layman.

881
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 6: It's sort of the same idea I wrote it to.

882
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 6: I wrote it for a gig. Really, there's a benefit

883
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 6: gig here in Los Angeles and it was acoustic, and

884
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 6: I had to go up. I'm like, God, am I

885
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 6: going to do the same shit over and over again?

886
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 6: I thought, you know, write something cool.

887
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: That's always fun when it happens. Yeah, it's a great

888
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: song because it's kind of it's kind of indian y.

889
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you mentioned that.

890
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: It really is, and I don't know if it was

891
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: in my head because you sent me that story about

892
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: going to the George Fest and seeing my dad and

893
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: my sister and stuff, but something about it just it's

894
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: very drony and well that's like the sharp four?

895
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 6: What which that?

896
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: A lot?

897
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 6: There's this, you know, as a kid listening to a

898
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 6: lot of Beatles and a lot of Zeppelin, you know,

899
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 6: both of them really sort of did blend Eastern influence

900
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 6: into a lot of their music, you know, yea, whether

901
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 6: it's you know, Zeppelin and Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones.

902
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 6: You know, John Paul Jones is really like such an

903
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 6: unsung hero. I got to play in that band named

904
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 6: Crooked Vultures with him, and I never for one second

905
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 6: eased into the idea that John Paul Jones is a

906
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 6: normal human being. I never, not once whenever we jammed

907
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 6: where we hung Out is just such a phenomenal musician

908
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 6: and such a huge part of led Zeppelin. I really

909
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 6: think that he's instrumental in making John Bonham sound even bigger,

910
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 6: which is kind of this. It's hard to imagine, but

911
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 6: the way that John Paul Jones glues to and enhances

912
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 6: the groove of whoever he's playing with. Oh my god. Also,

913
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 6: did you ever hear that Diamanna Gallas record? Do you

914
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 6: know about her? Oh my god? Wicked, crazy, amazing sort

915
01:01:52,840 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 6: of goth legend who made a record called The Sporting

916
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 6: Life with John Paul Jones playing bass, Pete Thomas from

917
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 6: The Attractions playing drums, and her singing I have to

918
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 6: play it for you, You'll lose your mind. It's one

919
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 6: of the coolest things in the world. But it also

920
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 6: has sort of that sort of influence. God, this is

921
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 6: gonna be hard.

922
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: We don't have to do it.

923
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 6: I tried it this morning.

924
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: It's just a good song. Okay, can I sing some

925
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: harmonies on it?

926
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 6: Could you go do whatever you want to do. It's

927
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 6: seriously been so long. This is gonna be so good.

928
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 6: I haven't done this in a really long time. Oh

929
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 6: my god, I'm sweating I'm sweating.

930
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: I've been sweating all day.

931
01:02:42,720 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 6: What are you talking about? All right? Rady, Wait, go,

932
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 6: it's time. We need to find a bed, a place to.

933
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 13: Hide me Go, you're mine.

934
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 9: I need to know. I need to know, to know, Sweet.

935
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 3: If didn way, Oh my.

936
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 11: Sweet Ray.

937
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 21: Pays, my dear, we could spend a lot of time

938
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 21: with you.

939
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 9: Maybe this time, I hope I get the chance to

940
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 9: say goodbye, sweet.

941
01:04:54,840 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 3: Devine. Red Dayer, Oh my sweet dim Raier.

942
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 19: Wait shine, day after day, cold.

943
01:05:34,880 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 12: Away, day after day. Wait, wait, wait, it's time.

944
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 13: We need to find a bed, a place to hide.

945
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 22: Bay your mind.

946
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 9: I need to know, I need to know, to.

947
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: Know, sweet Javie praise, Oh my sweet way.

948
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 2: Whoa wasn't it pretty?

949
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 3: Wow?

950
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 6: I haven't done that in twenty years.

951
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 9: Really, yeah, we did a bunch we did.

952
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 6: It was for that, for that record.

953
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: Actually we.

954
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 6: Went on tour where we like played a bunch of

955
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 6: rock shows and then we did this acoustic tour thing.

956
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because wasn't it a double Was it a double album?

957
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 6: It was a double album. I remember we made a

958
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 6: double album and someone from the record company came to

959
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 6: listen to it, and the first thing they said was,

960
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 6: I think maybe before even hearing it, they're like, so, so,

961
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 6: why did you make a double record?

962
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 2: Don't you love that?

963
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 6: Like, I don't know, No, that was really that was

964
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 6: really fun to be able to do that. I honestly

965
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 6: think that the acoustic side of that album was better

966
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 6: than the rock side.

967
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: Well, it seems like you wanted maybe you wanted to

968
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: make an acoustic album, but you didn't feel like you

969
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: couldn't rock.

970
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 6: Was that and maybe that's what it was.

971
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: That's the hindsight thing. Probably, Yeah, we.

972
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 6: Don't know what we're doing ever. Like it's like never

973
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 6: I remember on the rock record, the song best of

974
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 6: You is on that record and we recorded it and

975
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 6: we're like, you know what, that sucks? Fuck that And

976
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 6: we played it for John Silva, our manager. Yes, And

977
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 6: then a long time later he was like, we played

978
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 6: on a bunch of other stuff and he's like, what

979
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 6: about that song that says best of you one hundred times? Yeah?

980
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 8: What happened to that?

981
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 6: Guess it's kind of cool.

982
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: That's funny how your perceptions of things.

983
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 6: Don't you do the same thing.

984
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have hits in the same way.

985
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 2: That you do.

986
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, when a song is a good

987
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 6: song I think I do.

988
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: But then sometimes I'll do stuff that I don't think

989
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: is good, and then I feel like I get fed

990
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: by If other people end up it's one of their favorites.

991
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: I get fed by that and my brain thinks it's good.

992
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: Then Yeah, is that a needy part of me?

993
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 7: Maybe?

994
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I think maybe as a performer, you

995
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 6: want people to appreciate what you do. It's maybe not

996
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 6: first priority if you're a musician or but if you're performing,

997
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 6: it's nice to play songs that people enjoy hearing, have

998
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 6: fun exactly, rather than just go I get it, Like,

999
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 6: you know, there have been times where we'll record things

1000
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 6: that are you know, very like inward or sort of

1001
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 6: self indulgent, and you know, things that might please us

1002
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 6: greatly but won't necessarily translate to when we go out.

1003
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 6: Like I really loved going out and playing songs that

1004
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 6: if it's a song they don't know, it has to

1005
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 6: be fucking amazing.

1006
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've learned that you can't just be yeah, yeah,

1007
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: it's more fun.

1008
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 6: Oh you know what we were talking about the new

1009
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 6: record thing? The new record Okay, so so I mean

1010
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 6: Rescued is so screamy. Yeah, you don't want me fucking

1011
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 6: screaming rescue that you you can. You can come over

1012
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 6: next door and hear us rehearse it.

1013
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. But I love rescued,

1014
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: and I could hear I could hear you doing it,

1015
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, kind.

1016
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: Of the way you do.

1017
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: Times like these. You know, I've heard you do it

1018
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: in so many different incarnations. Yeah, and then I went

1019
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 1: back to the record version of Oh yeah, it's like crazy, crazy,

1020
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: different each time.

1021
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 6: Well, you know it's crazy. It's this guitar that I've

1022
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 6: basically written all of our music for the last thirty

1023
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 6: years on this really, yes, what is it? I don't know.

1024
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 6: It's an old Gibson. It's a Gibson country Western model.

1025
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 6: I know nothing about gear, drums or guitar. But yeah,

1026
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 6: pretty much everything from the first record to the Learned

1027
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 6: Flies and the ever Lungs and all of that stuff

1028
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 6: was this thing. And that's what happens is I'll write

1029
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 6: a song and I'll come up with a melody before

1030
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 6: the lyrics or anything, and I'll sit on the I'll

1031
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 6: sit on the couch and I'll be like, I mean,

1032
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 6: I think the dance and I'll like sing it sort

1033
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 6: of falsetto and they're getting the studio and it just

1034
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 6: doesn't sound the same at all. And then I realized, like,

1035
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 6: oh ship, I had to scream that yeah, like I

1036
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:19,959
Speaker 6: don't sit around.

1037
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: The house otherwise it sounds too like yeah.

1038
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 6: And then the first time, the first time I sing

1039
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 6: any of our songs is always in front of the

1040
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 6: mic to record.

1041
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: You don't play it for them before.

1042
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 6: I'll play them sort of demos, and even in the demos,

1043
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 6: I'm like, shy Ronnie.

1044
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: For the moment.

1045
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 6: I save it for the moment, and then in that moment,

1046
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,959
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh fuck, god, damn, I have to scream

1047
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 6: on this one.

1048
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 3: So I'm like.

1049
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 6: And then to fucking sing that scream that every night.

1050
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: That's a lot.

1051
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 6: You're up for it. I'm up for it.

1052
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 3: You're the man job.

1053
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 6: I remember. The reason why we first started doing acoustic

1054
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 6: versions of our songs was because we went on the

1055
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 6: Howard Stern Show, Oh Boy, and it was whatever, like

1056
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 6: seven in the morning, and he's like, hey, bring a guitar.

1057
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 6: They might want you to play a song. And I

1058
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 6: don't know if we'd ever done an acoustic song or

1059
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 6: an acoustic version of a song. Ah and the night

1060
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 6: before I was in the hotel room. I'm just like,

1061
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 6: oh my god, what are we going to?

1062
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 7: Like?

1063
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 6: What can we play? At the time, I think we

1064
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 6: were only on our second record, but that song had

1065
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 6: I mean that record had like my Hero and ever

1066
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 6: Long and stuff like that. Then I thought, Wow, every

1067
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 6: Long is probably the easiest to sing at seven in

1068
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 6: the morning with an acoustic guitar. And we did it,

1069
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,839
Speaker 6: and it kind of opened up this whole new dynamic

1070
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 6: in this whole new world for us to try some

1071
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 6: of our songs on acoustic guitars.

1072
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: It felt exciting.

1073
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 6: What's that?

1074
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: It felt fun and like exciting.

1075
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just nice to be we Actually we

1076
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 6: did it on the radio on his radio show, and

1077
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 6: then they kept playing it and Silva was like, oh

1078
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 6: my god, we need to record a version of it. Ah,

1079
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 6: And then that wound up on the radio and since then,

1080
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 6: at least once or twice a year, people will come

1081
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 6: up to me and be like, that was our song

1082
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 6: at our weddings version acoustic version.

1083
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1084
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 1: But that's also I feel like when you strip a

1085
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: song back from whatever it becomes production wise or full

1086
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: band wise, and it still works. I mean, it's just

1087
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: a great song. So it's it's it's. If it didn't

1088
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: sound good acoustic, you'd be exposed. But because they're great songs,

1089
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: they work, you know, I know, so lucky you.

1090
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 6: We're gonna do everylong right now.

1091
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that one as well.

1092
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 6: Nourah, We're gonna do it. Okay, what's this chord? You

1093
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 6: know what, let's music pick it out.

1094
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to music school. It's a D major seven

1095
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: with a major seven.

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01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 6: Okay.

1097
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: Then this is a B minor with the minor seven

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01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: and a nine, then.

1099
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 6: Then backs up to the.

1100
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it goes Okay, I get it. I mean

1101
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: I know the song too.

1102
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 6: Just so used to ask you what the chords are.

1103
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: I need you to know that I do know this.

1104
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 6: This succord one time was.

1105
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 1: This D major seven okay, B minor seven with a

1106
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: nine B minor seven nine, it's G two omit the three.

1107
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,879
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I am serious.

1108
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 6: Right, that's right.

1109
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 3: I've waited here for you.

1110
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 9: Ef long.

1111
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 3: Your face.

1112
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 8: Out of the red, out of my head.

1113
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: She said, do do do do do do do do

1114
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 3: do do do do do do do do do do

1115
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 3: do do do do do do do do do.

1116
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 9: Come down.

1117
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 6: And waste away with me, down with me.

1118
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 11: Slow?

1119
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 9: Well you wanted to be.

1120
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 6: It's over my hand, out of my head because a

1121
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 6: bread creak, and I wanda when I sing along with you,

1122
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 6: if everything could ever feel this real?

1123
01:17:59,680 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 8: Thought?

1124
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 6: Well, if anything could ever be this good? Uh, the

1125
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 6: only thing I'll ever ask of you.

1126
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 8: Got a promise.

1127
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 6: I'm torture you.

1128
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 3: Breathe out.

1129
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 6: So I can breathe you well.

1130
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 3: And now I know you boy as been.

1131
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 23: Out of your hat, out of my head, I said,

1132
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 23: any time, and I sing along with you.

1133
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 6: If everything good ever feel this real?

1134
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 9: Foe else.

1135
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 6: Anything good ever be this good?

1136
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 9: Up again?

1137
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 6: The only thing I ever ask of you, God, a

1138
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 6: promise not to stop when I say.

1139
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 8: She said, it's all year enough.

1140
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 24: And I wonder and I sing along with you. Everything

1141
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 24: could have a feel? This will fall in.

1142
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 6: If anything could ever be this good? The only thing

1143
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 6: I'll ever ask of you. Got a promise not to

1144
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 6: stop when I say Jess saying.

1145
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: Fuck yes, I feel like I'm not wearing any pants.

1146
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 6: That's a lot to ask you to play a song

1147
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 6: that you've never played before, and you just did it.

1148
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: I loved it me too. I was slightly unprepared, but

1149
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: I enjoyed every second. Great, that's a great one. It

1150
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: also does that drowney thing that you do.

1151
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: You like, you do that a lot.

1152
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I do the Indian and me loves it.

1153
01:21:58,400 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 6: What is that?

1154
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I like it and I write

1155
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: songs like that too. Sometimes. I just like there's something

1156
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: about like the pedal and the drone of it not

1157
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: changing keys or like almost never going to the five.

1158
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: I know it went to the five chord a couple

1159
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,879
Speaker 1: of times in that bridgy bit, but there's something circular

1160
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: about it that gets sort of like haunting and under

1161
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 1: your skin. I feel like songs like that.

1162
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 6: You know a lot of the droning, well, it comes

1163
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 6: from two different people. Zeppelin. There's this one song called

1164
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 6: in the Light off a Physical Graffiti. There's this one

1165
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 6: like whatever not it is that hangs out over the

1166
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 6: whole riff and it just lends to this beautiful, sort

1167
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 6: of spacey, trippy drone thing. But then there's this punk

1168
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 6: rock band called Husker Doo who I loved so much

1169
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 6: when I was young, and the guitar player, singer Bob Mold,

1170
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 6: the way that he played guitar, he always had these

1171
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 6: like the notes that would ring out over the riff

1172
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 6: or chord structure that just sort of sustained notes. I

1173
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 6: don't even know what I'm talking about, how would you

1174
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 6: call them? But it's always cool just to have that

1175
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 6: weird sort of anything. But then also that whatever that is,

1176
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 6: what do you call that? Nour is it?

1177
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1178
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 6: So I'm selling the.

1179
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: D Yeah, you're playing it, you do, and it's got

1180
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 1: the dissonance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that.

1181
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 6: I feel like I just went to fucking music school.

1182
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: This is the learner episode. I feel like when I

1183
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: came in to sing Virginia Moon, you guys thought I

1184
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: was a nerd that day too, I don't.

1185
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 6: I don't know if you remember coming in and me

1186
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 6: showing you the song and you were like, oh, I

1187
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 6: kind of was hoping we were going to do a

1188
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 6: rock song. Do you remember that? Well?

1189
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 1: I think I said that.

1190
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 6: I did say that, didn't you?

1191
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: You had already sent me the song though, right, didn't

1192
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: I already know?

1193
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: No?

1194
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 6: I feel like you fucking figured it out.

1195
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because when I got the call to do it,

1196
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: I was so excited and confused why you would call me?

1197
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: Also because you're fucking rock band, you know, and so

1198
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,560
Speaker 1: I get there and it's a boss and Nova and

1199
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, and I was like, I thought I was

1200
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: going to get to rock.

1201
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 6: Well, whenever you want to make a rock record, I do. Actually, wait,

1202
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 6: didn't you have another? You had a band? Didn't you were?

1203
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 6: You were in a like a rock band thing, weren't you?

1204
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1205
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 11: Oh?

1206
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: I had this band called El Madmo and we were

1207
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 1: kind of kind of it was kind of a rock band.

1208
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 6: Was it back then?

1209
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,839
Speaker 1: It was back then? And it was around then actually

1210
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: right after then. And I had started playing guitar. That's

1211
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: how I was. I was learning how to play guitar

1212
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: on that That was pretty fun. But I came in

1213
01:24:55,479 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: to do Virginia Moon. Did I deflate the moment by saying.

1214
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 6: That, No, you just scared me?

1215
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: Did I more?

1216
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 6: Because as if I weren't nervous enough, I felt like that.

1217
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh great, I'm already disappointing her.

1218
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry song.

1219
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: Yet I was so young and confused by everything at

1220
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: that time. I was like, who am I?

1221
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 8: God?

1222
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:17,879
Speaker 6: Damn, that was like twenty years.

1223
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 1: That was twenty years ago. Oh shit, and I had

1224
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: just become successful and I was just like, what the

1225
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: fuck is happening, you know, and you had me come

1226
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: in and do this song and I loved it. It

1227
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: was beautiful. I just was so confused because.

1228
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 6: Because you're you so full of fucking shit right now.

1229
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: No, it was amazing. And then and then I loved

1230
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: that song forever. And we've never sang it together.

1231
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 6: After that, No, and we never will because now I

1232
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 6: know how much you didn't want to do it.

1233
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: No, I did want to do it. I just didn't

1234
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 1: know what I was stop it. Are we in a fight?

1235
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: I just did question why did you call me because

1236
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: you thought it would be nice?

1237
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 6: Well, you know, one of the things that we were

1238
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 6: doing on that record, as we were asking people to

1239
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 6: come guest with us, John Paul Jones is on that,

1240
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 6: That's right. He was, Oh god, John Ball Jones. You

1241
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 6: Kaki King? Do you remember Kaki King?

1242
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1243
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 6: She played on this song Razor with me. I think

1244
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 6: either Razor or Beaconsfield Minors. It's actually how we got Ronny,

1245
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 6: our keyboard player, to join the band. He came and

1246
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 6: played all over it. Okay, I don't remember who else,

1247
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 6: but yeah, we were having a bunch of people come

1248
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 6: guest on the record, and I came up with that melody,

1249
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 6: and having heard your voice, I'm like, oh my god,

1250
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 6: this will beautiful, This'll be perfect.

1251
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: I totally agree. It makes sense. Yeah, like I get

1252
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: I got why you called me after I heard the song.

1253
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: But whatever it is, I thought I was going to

1254
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: get to air drum with you. No I knew it.

1255
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 6: I know you can air drum, but can you play drums?

1256
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: I can play a backbeat, yeah, but I'm not great.

1257
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 1: I mean I play in this band, put some boots,

1258
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: I play some drums on a few songs. Yeah, I

1259
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 1: feel too much. I like get too excited, Like I

1260
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 1: try to do fills because I'm so excited to be

1261
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: behind the drums, and I lose everything.

1262
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 6: The best drum lesson ever, I only took two drum lessons,

1263
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 6: one from this crazy jazz drummer in DC.

1264
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 2: My mom.

1265
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 6: His name is Lenny Robinson. He might be in New

1266
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 6: York now, but my mom used to take me to

1267
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 6: this jazz club on Sundays outside of Georgetown in DC.

1268
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 6: It's called One Step Down Fun, and they on Sundays

1269
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 6: they'd had this jazz workshop where the house band was

1270
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 6: a dude named Lawrence Wheatley, and then Lenny played drums.

1271
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 6: And dude named Maurice played sacks. I think I can't

1272
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 6: remember anyway, but seeing him play the drums and seeing

1273
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 6: a jazz drummer, it was just like I was so

1274
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 6: used to punk rock drummers. Yeah, I was like, I

1275
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 6: need to learn how to do that. And I think

1276
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 6: I was like fifteen or sixteen. I went up to him.

1277
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 6: I'm like, excuse me, mister Robinson, do you give lessons?

1278
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 6: He was like yeah, sure. It was like thirty bucks

1279
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 6: an hour for him to come in and tell me, like,

1280
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 6: you're holding your sticks backwards. I was like what, And

1281
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 6: so then I was just on a pad go like

1282
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 6: for thirty dollars, I had to mow like six lawns

1283
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 6: in order to get the money. But then the and

1284
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 6: then I just kind of learned on the pillows. But

1285
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 6: then the the best lesson I ever got was I

1286
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 6: joined this local punk rock band in DC called Scream,

1287
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 6: and they were all older than me. I was eighteen,

1288
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 6: and they like toured and stuff. They toured Europe and

1289
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 6: toward America, and that was my dream to like get

1290
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 6: in the van of a bunch of dudes and play

1291
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 6: punk rock shows and so but I was such an

1292
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 6: incredibly busy, hyperactive, over the top drummer, the same where

1293
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 6: I was just throwing stuff in everywhere. And there was

1294
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 6: once where I went over to the bass player's house

1295
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 6: or he said like once I joined the band. He's like,

1296
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 6: let's Jim, and he's like, we're going to smoke a

1297
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 6: huge joint and we're going to sit down and play,

1298
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 6: and we're going to play the same riff for half

1299
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 6: an hour and you're not going to do a drum roll.

1300
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 18: Whoa.

1301
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 6: And I was like okay, And so we smoke this

1302
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 6: huge spliff and I sat down and name was Skeeter

1303
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 6: and he was he was really like a groovy, laid

1304
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 6: back bass player. And so I don't even remember what

1305
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 6: we played, but it was like probably like something like

1306
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 6: like the song that I just played with you. Yeah,

1307
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 6: and like thirty seconds go by and I'm like why

1308
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 6: and he would look at me and he broke me

1309
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 6: like a horse.

1310
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1311
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I swear it worked. It was the

1312
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 6: best lesson I ever had in my entire life.

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Speaker 1: That is interesting, And I just wish I had a

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Speaker 1: video of it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was in a bedroom. Okay, there's a drum

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Speaker 6: set in there.

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Speaker 1: It GROLs Oh my god, that's true. It's the best lesson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll do that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Should we try virginumine? Oh too much?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's try it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean if we can't get it's fine.

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Speaker 6: My god. These lyrics, I'm trying to be all fucking

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Speaker 6: what romantic, and.

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Speaker 1: They are romantic. Honestly, this is really sweet. These lyrics

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Speaker 1: are I don't even feel like the romantic. I almost

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Speaker 1: feel like it's a like a prayer, like a morning

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Speaker 1: you know what I meant.

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Speaker 6: Damn Sam, it's hard. It's hard.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done it in twenty Did you ever play

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Speaker 1: this live? We need that tour never.

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Speaker 6: I would never do this without you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Violet would sound pretty on this.

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Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, we've got this. Please, we totally have it.

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Speaker 2: We have it.

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Speaker 1: It's in us.

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Speaker 6: It's happening right.

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Speaker 25: On to the fos constantat sh.

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Speaker 3: Surrounding you. Stay soft, Dame Blue Virginia. I'll wait for

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Speaker 3: you to know.

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Speaker 6: Sweets and.

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Speaker 3: Shot pray.

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Speaker 7: The day tune like God, dude, virgin your move. I

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Speaker 7: wait for you till night.

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Speaker 22: And now she has become shadows.

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Speaker 3: In your life. In morning, will way through and tomorrow

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Speaker 3: refuse you. I will say.

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Speaker 2: Good night.

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Speaker 11: See Fasten.

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Speaker 3: With spa guide tune.

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Speaker 13: She me come.

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Speaker 3: Marge you how wait for you tube night?

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Speaker 22: And now what she's become shadows in your life in

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Speaker 22: the morning railway through.

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Speaker 7: And tonwus you. I will say, purching.

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Speaker 3: Your move, I wait for you to night, and now

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Speaker 3: shit's become shadows in your light.

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Speaker 7: In the morning, way way through and tomorrow rescues you.

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Speaker 8: I will say.

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Speaker 15: Good night.

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Speaker 8: I will say good night.

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Speaker 3: I will say good night.

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Speaker 2: We did it.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I'm I know, I know God. I

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Speaker 6: haven't done that so long.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we did it because we had to do it.

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Speaker 3: We did it.

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Speaker 8: We did it.

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Speaker 6: Noa, we did it.

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Speaker 2: We did.

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Speaker 6: Remember that thing you were talking about, that feeling you

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Speaker 6: get when you do something you don't know if you

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Speaker 6: can do, and then you do it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's great. Thank you, thanks for doing

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Speaker 1: this with me.

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Speaker 3: We did.

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Speaker 1: We did several of the twenty songs we talked about doing.

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Speaker 1: I know, no, I just want to say something you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Norah.

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Speaker 1: I love you so much and this was so fun

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Speaker 1: for me. Thanks for doing music with me.

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Speaker 6: You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to hear what I said to Billie

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Speaker 1: Eilish what I said, I'm just I'm so happy that

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're people love you because.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 1: It was hysterical.

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Speaker 6: That's a nice thing to say.

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Speaker 1: It was super awkward, though, and I don't think it

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Speaker 1: came out what I meant to say in the right words.

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Speaker 1: But it was funny. And I feel the same about you, Dave.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: Damn, Hey, will you do a rock song with me

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Speaker 1: one day?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 1: That was so fun. Thanks for listening everyone.

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Speaker 4: That was great. I'm so impressed by his unjadedness, you know,

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Speaker 4: like in conversation, but also like musically.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like he's achieved.

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Speaker 4: So much much in his career and yet it's like

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Speaker 4: he's nervous every time and still can get as excited

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Speaker 4: as ever afterwards, like Wow, we did it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I love that he's definitely got a childlike wonder with

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Speaker 1: music in a way that I hope he never loses.

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Speaker 1: And I hope I never lose. I don't always have it,

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Speaker 1: but it's the best when you do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, please never change.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed the episode. If you want to

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Speaker 1: know what songs we played. The first song was Statues

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Speaker 1: from Echoes, Silence, Patients and Grace, the two thousand and

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01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,560
Speaker 1: seven Food Fighters album. The second song we played was

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Speaker 1: Flame Twin, which is one of mine from Pick Me

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01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: Up Off the Floor in twenty twenty. The acoustic guitar

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Speaker 1: number was Ballad of the Beaconsfield Miners and it's on

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Speaker 1: the album Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace. Also we did

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Speaker 1: Razor from In Your Honor, the two thousand and five

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Speaker 1: Food Fighters album, ever Long from The Color and the

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Speaker 1: Shape nineteen ninety seven album from the Food Fighters, and

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Speaker 1: Virginia Moon from In Your Honor in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode was recorded at Studio six oh seven in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California. Recorded by Oliver Roman, assisted by Jared Polacci,

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Speaker 1: studio manager Ali Christi, mixed by Jamie Landry, edited by

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Speaker 1: Sarah Oda, Additional engineering by Greg Tobler and Pete rem

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Speaker 1: artwork by Eliza Frye. Photography by Shervin Linez. Coordinating producer

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Speaker 1: Rachel Ward. Produced by Nora Jones and Sarah Oda

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Speaker 2: Yay