1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about retribution. The John Bolton raid. Lee 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Zelden is here doing a great job at the EPA. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about that. We have all that, 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: a pastor and more coming up, and I'm. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: Right, okay, before we get started on the meat and 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: potatoes portion of the show on, I'm right, we have to. 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Honor the passing of a legend. Donald McPherson is his name. 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: He was the last surviving ace from World War Two. 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: We developed a plane called the Hellcat World War two 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: bus will of course know what the Hellcat is. The 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: Hellcat taken off and landing on aircraft carriers. Donald McPherson 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: at one point in time, shot down five Japanese planes, 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: got the Congressional Golden Medal. Just a stud in every 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: sense of the word, a complete stud. And he just 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: passed at the age of one to three. Now, that's 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: obviously a wonderful life, a life well lived. If I'm 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: being honest. It saddens me a great deal that they're 18 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: almost all gone now, almost all those World War Two 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: veterans are gone. You know, Father Time is undefeated and 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: rest in peace, warrior, appreciate you very much, all right now, 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: let's talk about retribution, communism, the government everything. The John 22 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Bolton raid, by the way, right when the John Bolton raid, 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: the rate of John Bolton's home, Right when that happened 24 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: over the weekend, I went and did a six seven 25 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: minute video on YouTube on my YouTube channel. I do 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: that from time to time. Go subscribe to that at 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly DC on YouTube. Go watch it, subscribe to it, 28 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: enjoy yourself. It's free of charge. Of course. Now let's 29 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: discuss it. John Bolton did what well, he did what 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: apparently every single person who works in the government does. 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: He got sticky fingers with classified documents, thought they were 32 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: his personal possession, there's value there, took them home. He's 33 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: accused of sending them to people, emailing them to family, 34 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: being I mean, unbelievably careless with critically important pieces of information. 35 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: Do keep in mind that foreign adversaries like China and 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: many many others have the ability to take anything from 37 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: your email they want to take. So when you take 38 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: classified documents and you're sending them from your Gmail account, 39 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: you are exposing the United States of America to bad, bad, 40 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: bad things. So let's talk about this. What did John 41 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Bolton have to say, when Donald Trump's home was rated. 42 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: If he has anything like what the complaint, what the 43 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: indictment alleges, and of course the government will have to 44 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: prove it, then he has committed very serious crime. This 45 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: is a devastating indictment. I speak here as an alumnus 46 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: of the Justice Department myself, because not only is it powerful, 47 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 3: it's very narrowly tailored. 48 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: They didn't throw. 49 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: Everything up against the wall to see what would stick. 50 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: This really is a rifle shot, and I think it 51 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: should be the end of Donald Trump's political career. 52 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: You have practically had the vapors over there at the 53 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: thought of mar Lago being rated. And now he wakes 54 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: up and his home has federal agents inside of it, 55 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: federal agents walking out with boxes. And that brings me, 56 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: of course, to what the reaction has been to this, 57 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again. If you've 58 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: been watching the television over the weekend, you saw the 59 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: left using words like retribution. President Trump promised retribution against 60 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: his political enemies, and there is no doubt that he 61 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: is serious about keeping that promise. 62 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: I think this is clearly retribution, and I'm in the 63 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: idea that what they just picked John Bolton, a prominent 64 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: critic of the president at random. 65 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: What the president is trying to do here is. 66 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: Very systemic and systematic, and that is anyone who stands 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: up to the president, anyone who criticized the president, anyone 68 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: who says anything adverse to the President's interests, gets the 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: full weight of the federal government brought down on them. 70 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about retribution. What if it is? 71 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: And obviously there's a part of that. What if it 72 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: is retribution? Yeah, it should be. You see what they did, 73 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: what the communists have done with the government over the 74 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: decades as they have conquered it. They took over all 75 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: the agencies, they took over every part of it, and 76 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: they've taken all those government guns that were supposed to 77 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: be pointed outward protecting us from foreign adversaries. And they 78 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: slowly but surely did what they always do, and they 79 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: took those guns and pointed them inward at their political opponents. 80 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Did you see Jdvan sit down with Kristen Welker Lenis. 81 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 5: But you know a lot of people have already looked 82 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 5: at this and said, this looks a lot like retribution. 83 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 6: Is this retribution? 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 7: Well, who has said it looks a lot like retribution 85 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 7: people who tried to throw Donald Trump in prison for 86 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 7: completely fake charges that were later thrown out by multiple 87 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 7: different courts. 88 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 8: I suspect that if the media and. 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 7: The American people led this case actually unfold, if they 90 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 7: let the investigation unfold as it's currently doing, they're going 91 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 7: to find out that what we're doing is being very 92 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 7: deliberate and being very driven by the national interest and 93 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 7: by the law here. 94 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: And that's as it should be. Remember what they did 95 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump. But you know what set out aside, 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: set out aside, Set aside what they did to Donald Trump, 97 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: because that's well documented. You know about that. They tried 98 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: to bankrupt and they tried to throw them in prison 99 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: in New York, they tried to throw them in prison 100 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: in Georgia. Everyone seemed to forget about that. They had 101 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: a special prosecutor. They tried to throw the Republican nominee 102 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: in prison, in federal prison. They weren't going for fines, 103 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: they weren't going for a slap on the wrist. They 104 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: turned the FBI and CIA loose against their political opponent 105 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: and tried to throw them in prison on ridiculous charges 106 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: that to this day. Nobody can even lay out what 107 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: he was accused of doing. I don't know, so they 108 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: just made things up. But again, set aside, Donald Trump, 109 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about what the Communists did to you when 110 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: they got full power. They sent the FBI into your 111 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: church here in the United States of America, the Land 112 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: of the Free. We had FBI special agents in the 113 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: parking lot of school board meetings, jotting down license plate 114 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: numbers to open up domestic terrorist files on moms who 115 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: were mad that their kids were being taught a bunch 116 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: of gay stuff in schools. That's what the Communists did. 117 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Mark Howke had ridiculous charges brought up against him and 118 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: an FBI swat team sent to his door with guns 119 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: pointed in his face, in his family's face, because the 120 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: Communists were angry that rovers is way got overturned and 121 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: they wanted to take it out on somebody. This is 122 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: this is just a taste of what the Communists did 123 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: when they got power. Remember Remember all those times they 124 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: tried to call you a white supremacist. 125 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 9: According to the Intelligence Community, terrorism for white supremacy is 126 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 9: the most lethal threat to the homeland today. Not VIIs 127 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 9: not Al Qaeda. White supremacists. 128 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 10: In the FBI's view, the top domestic violent extremist threat 129 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 10: comes from racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, specifically those 130 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 10: who advocated for the superiority of the white race. 131 00:07:54,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 11: A huge chunk of those domestic terrorst investigations involve racely 132 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 11: motivated violent extremist motivated terrorist attacks, and the majority of 133 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 11: those of the racially motivated violent extremist attacks are fueled 134 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 11: by some kind of white supremacy. 135 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Well, that didn't make sense, did it, because you've never 136 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: met a white supremacist in your life. So let me 137 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: explain it to you. This was in an effort to 138 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: classify their political opponents as terrorists so they could justify 139 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: sending government guns against you. What happened during Joe Biden's 140 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: four years was the most evil stuff the United States 141 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: government has ever done, because the communists conquered it and 142 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: aimed all their guns at you, at me. That Donald Trump. 143 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about something even worse. They're going to 144 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: take power again. Oh, I don't think it's going to 145 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: be soon. They've lost their minds right now. But you're 146 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: not a baby. You're not a child. You know how 147 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: it works at some point in time, they will take 148 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: power again. What is stopping them from doing all that again? 149 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: What will stop them? Their morality? Don't make me laugh. 150 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: The only chance we have at getting these people to 151 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: back off and not do what they did before is 152 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: making them afraid. The next time a communist puts in 153 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: a communist FBI director and has a meeting with him 154 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: and says, hey, I want these Republicans to go to prison. 155 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: The only thing that might hold that next FBI director 156 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: back is watching what happens now to the people who 157 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: did it before and him saying to himself, I mean, 158 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to sir, I'd love to go arrest these Republicans, 159 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: but I don't want to go to prison like the 160 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: last guy did. Retribution. You bet it is, and it 161 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: should be, because when you are in a war for power, 162 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: and we very much are in a war for power, 163 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: you had better hit back and let the enemy know 164 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: that it can come right back to him, so he 165 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: better mind his p's and cues. That's how wars are fought. 166 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. 167 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Ilia Shapiro about the Supreme 168 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: Court and other things in a moment before we talk 169 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: to him, let me talk to you about your cell 170 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: phone see pure Talk. I'm proud of them. 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What's happening and 190 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: why is it happening? 191 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 12: Well, rest ipseolocuid or jesse, since you love that Latin. Look, 192 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 12: this is one of Trump's. This is one of Trump's 193 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 12: executive orders or the actions by the agencies to use 194 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 12: its lawful discretion to decide who gets grants and who doesn't, 195 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 12: in this case, cutting funding to DEI initiatives in the 196 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 12: public health space at the National Institute's for Health. And 197 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 12: here a lower court had blocked that. The Supreme Court, 198 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 12: by a five to four decision, blocked that block, if 199 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 12: you will, so the administration can continue to withhold that 200 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 12: funding pending further litigation. 201 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Okay. Katanji Brown Jackson, who obviously gets mocked apparently even 202 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: by leftists these days, called this. What'd she say? Accuse 203 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court of playing Calvin ball? What is she 204 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: talking about? 205 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 12: Well, Calvin Ball, if I remember my comic books, correctly 206 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 12: is making up the rules as you get along, and 207 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 12: she's making the point that the only rule that the 208 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 12: Supreme Court majority has is Trump wins. I think it's 209 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 12: a completely unfair account. It's also not very well reasoned, 210 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 12: and indeed, in a different context at the end of 211 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 12: the term in June, her colleague Justice amy Cony Barrett 212 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 12: effectively called out Justice Jackson for playing calvin ball in 213 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 12: her reasoning. That is saying, you know, dismissing with the 214 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 12: back of her hand, saying that what Justice Jackson was 215 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 12: saying has no basis in two hundred years of precedent 216 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 12: or constitutional text or history. I don't like it when 217 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 12: the justices go after each other or accuse each other 218 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 12: of acting in bad faith. It's okay to criticize their opinions. 219 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 12: I criticize their opinions all the time, and these are 220 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 12: better lawyers than I am, so they should do that. 221 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 12: But I don't think it's fair here that what Justice 222 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 12: Jackson is saying, she's basically saying, I don't have any 223 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 12: legal arguments to make, so I'm just gonna pound the table. 224 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: Ili Obviously, every day we wake up there's a new 225 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: judge from some lower court somewhere blocking this or blocking 226 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: that and making an idiot of himself. How much do 227 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: they how much have they conquered the courts versus us? 228 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: We have a bunch of judges like, less amounts of 229 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: theirs and not that many of ours. 230 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 12: What's the balance like, Well, at any given time, about 231 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 12: half the federal judiciary is appointed by Republican presidents, about 232 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 12: half by Democratic presidents. Of course, the Supreme Court, it's 233 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 12: about six to three at this point. I wouldn't call 234 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 12: it judicial activism, as your thing on the screen said, 235 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 12: because activism at this point just means a decision I 236 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 12: don't like. And these accusations come from the left the right, whatever. 237 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 12: We take each ruling as it comes. And the thing is, 238 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 12: we're at the culmination of a long trend where divergent 239 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 12: theories of interpretation, views on the Constitution map onto partisan 240 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 12: identification at a time when the parties themselves are more 241 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 12: ideologically sordid and polarized, and they've been since at least 242 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,119 Speaker 12: the Civil War. And of course, parties challenging a Republican 243 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 12: president will file in DC and Boston and Seattle. Parties 244 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 12: challenging a Democratic president will file in Texas, and these 245 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 12: things get accelerated up to the Supreme Court. That's why 246 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 12: we see a lot of action on what some call 247 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 12: the emergency docket or the interim relief docket, basically the 248 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 12: stuff that's not the normal months and months of briefing 249 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 12: and argument process. But we live in polarized times, and 250 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 12: the courts reflect that. 251 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court hasn't smacked around the lower courts in 252 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: the way much of the right wants them to. Meaning, 253 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, Robert's saying, stop this, stop this, You're not 254 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: allowed to do this anymore. Are they going to or 255 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: is it all operating the way it should? 256 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 12: They're starting to bit by bit, and you saw this 257 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 12: last month in July. There are a couple of rulings 258 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 12: where the Supreme Court not even a five to four, 259 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 12: six to three, but basically everyone other than Jackson and 260 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 12: Soda Mayor was saying, cut it out. We've already ruled 261 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 12: this way. I might not like it, says Kagan, but 262 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 12: you have to follow what the Supreme Court does. So 263 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 12: bit by bit they're getting they're giving more instruction. But look, 264 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 12: the Court is not a legislative body, so it's always reactive. 265 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 12: It's always a step behind what lower courts are are doing. 266 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 12: And I think this will get resolved in the end, 267 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 12: but it takes some time. 268 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: Bilia Clarence Thomas, who I adore, Alito, you know, the 269 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: ones we all adore. They're getting old, are they going 270 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: to retire? 271 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 12: So it's still much more likely than not that the 272 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 12: Republicans keep the Senate after the twenty six elections, after 273 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 12: next year's elections, and so to the extent politics is 274 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 12: part of the process, I wouldn't look until twenty twenty 275 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 12: seven to start speculating beyond that. Both of them love 276 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 12: the power they're having. Justice Thomas is the senior most 277 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 12: associate Justice. Justice Alito gets to write opinions in lots 278 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 12: of big cases. You know, they seem relatively healthy and 279 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 12: vigorous and energetic. And for Thomas specifically, if he serves 280 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 12: through May of twenty basically through the end of that term, 281 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 12: he becomes the longest ever serving Justice. So I would 282 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 12: start looking at some speculation depending on what Republican prospects 283 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 12: are for the White House in twenty eight, but Thomas 284 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 12: certainly wouldn't go until I think he sets that benchmark. 285 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: Who's Trump's best pick? Gorsuch? 286 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 11: Uh? 287 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 12: Well, I don't want to I don't want to pick favorites. 288 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 12: I guess I think Gorsich probably is my favorite of 289 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 12: Trump's three picks. Yes, Trump now is saying he wants 290 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 12: people more like Alito and Thomas than any of the 291 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 12: three that he picked. Frankly, most Federal Society members or 292 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 12: others of the kind of traditional conservative legal movement would 293 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 12: probably be in agreement with that. And there are plenty 294 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 12: of young judges, all of whom Trump appointed, younger federal 295 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 12: judges who clerked for Alito and Thomas, and so there's 296 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 12: a very good farm team ready to be called up 297 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 12: to serve if needed. 298 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: What's coming on the Supreme Court big rulings, small rulings. 299 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 12: Well, the traditional beginning of the term is the first 300 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 12: Monday in October. And we do have already a case 301 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 12: challenging Colorado's ban on talk therapy for gender dysphoria. So 302 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 12: recall last term, in the Scremeti case, the Court okayed 303 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 12: Tennessee's ban on mutilation for gender purposes of minors. This 304 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 12: is kind of the flip side talk therapy that's being 305 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 12: banned in case someone is, you know, might have some 306 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 12: mental illness or isn't sure about their gender, what have you. 307 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 12: That's a big one. A couple of big political law cases. 308 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 12: We haven't had campaign finance and political law on the 309 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 12: docket in a while. Several opportunities for the Court to 310 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 12: weigh in that will have direct impact even with the 311 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 12: twenty sixth election, let alone twenty eight. 312 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: Ilio, what about birthright citizenship? Are we ever going to 313 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: get a ruling in a correct one on this insane 314 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: anchor baby problem? 315 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 12: We have I predict that this case will come before 316 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 12: the Supreme Court at least one more time without a 317 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 12: decision on the merits of whether birthright is citizenship is 318 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 12: constitutionally required. Because even after the Supreme Court ruled to 319 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 12: get rid of universal injunctions, nationwide injunctions by district court 320 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 12: already other lower courts have certified class actions to challenge 321 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 12: Trump's Birthright Citizenship Executive Order, as well as states saying 322 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 12: that they need nationwide injunctions to be able to vindicate 323 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 12: their rights. So there's one more beat on the procedural 324 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 12: stuff before we're even going to get to that big 325 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 12: media constitutional issue. 326 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, I appreciate it all right. The EPA, 327 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: big cheese. Lee Zelden doing amazing work at the EPA. 328 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: No one talks about it because EPA isn't in the 329 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: news every day. Has been doing awesome stuff. He's going 330 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: to join us next we'll riff about some things. Before 331 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: we do that, we talk to you about something about 332 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: your energy level. How do you feel in the afternoon, 333 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when you get home, ready, 334 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: ready to go for a while, make dinner, eat dinner, 335 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: hang out, or you're done. You know you don't have 336 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: to be done. You can be full of pep and 337 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: in a good mood all the time. If you get 338 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: some natural herbal supplements in your body, you can feel 339 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: so much better than you feel now. Let chalk make 340 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: you feel better natural herbal supplements. I personally, I take 341 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: a male vitality stack every single day. I never miss it. 342 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: Do the same. They have a female vitality stack for 343 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: the ladies. Give it ninety days, you'll be ready to 344 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: go even at the end of the day. It's amazing. 345 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I even sleep better. Chalk dot Com, slash Jesse TV. 346 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: We'll be back. I'm floored that the government is actually shrinking. 347 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: The government never shrinks, and that does in my forty 348 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: four years on this planet. Just government grows and grows 349 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: and grows and grows and grows. We're looking by year 350 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: end at three hundred thousand fewer federal workers. Gosh, that's 351 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: amazing and joining me now somebody who's been a big 352 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: part of that. So happy for him, Happy we have him. 353 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: The EPA Administrator, Lee Zelden, Hey Lee, well done. What 354 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: are you guys doing over there? Fire and everybody? 355 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 13: Oh listen. 356 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 14: We came in at the beginning of January and had 357 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 14: a lot on our plate of what we needed to 358 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 14: tackle operationally with policy. On the operational side, the President 359 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 14: signing executive Order ending covid Era remote work. We had 360 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 14: to get people back into the building the numbers I 361 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 14: had asked for just to get a so how many 362 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 14: people were even coming in. Average attendance on Mondays and 363 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 14: Fridays last year was five to eight percent. The record 364 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 14: high day of attendance was thirty one percent. We went 365 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 14: through reorganizations. When we came in, our number was about 366 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 14: sixteen thousand, one hundred and fifty five. The number is 367 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 14: going to be right sized about twelve thousand, five hundred 368 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 14: and we will actually get more of our statutory obligations 369 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 14: fulfilled at twenty three percent less than what we came 370 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 14: in on. It's about priorities. We inherited a massive, massive 371 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 14: backlog to pessive side Review, New Chemical Review, Small refinery exemptions, 372 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 14: state implementation plans, and we should be prioritizing first and 373 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 14: foremost the statutory obligations in front of this agency, statutes 374 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 14: out there by Congress. On the policy side, we inherited 375 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 14: what were a lot of decisions from twenty twenty three 376 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 14: and twenty twenty four from the Biden administration, where they 377 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 14: were getting a lot of new rules and regulations over 378 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 14: the finish line, trying to strangulate out of existence entire 379 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 14: sectors of our economy, specifically our energy economy, were not 380 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 14: just them. And we're trying to reverse that damage as 381 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 14: quickly as we can, doing everything at once. And the 382 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 14: last thing they'll mention that we had to tackle again, 383 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 14: we'll just do it everything at the same time is 384 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 14: tracking down all of the money that was going through 385 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 14: the EPA, tens of billions of dollars. I've now canceled 386 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 14: over twenty nine billion dollars worth of grants since I've 387 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 14: gotten here. We found all sorts of money just riddled 388 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 14: with self dealing, conflicts of interest, unqualified recipients, reduced agency oversight, 389 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 14: money going to well connected left wing activist NGOs. And 390 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 14: we come in and we're not trying to get that 391 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 14: money redirected towards right wing activist NGOs. This isn't about 392 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 14: ideologically just trying to get it to well connected friends 393 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 14: on the right about the taxpayer and that money should 394 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 14: be fought for for all American taxpayers and not lit 395 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 14: on fire. 396 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 13: So, yeah, a lot of priorities. 397 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 14: Staff size, money spent regulations. We'll do more deregulation in 398 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 14: one year than entire federal governments have done across all agencies, 399 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 14: across entire presidencies. 400 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: Just at the EPA, tell me about these regulations. What 401 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: kind of regulations have we been living under in this country? 402 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Because people don't realize what a regulatory state we have 403 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: right now. 404 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 13: So there was a. 405 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 14: Supreme Court decision called Loperbright that came out in recent years, 406 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 14: overturning the Chevron doctrine. Essentially the Supreme Court saying that 407 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 14: agencies like the EPA should not be getting creative in 408 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 14: giving themselves their own power. That the EPA shouldn't be 409 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 14: saying that where a statute is silent, that it should 410 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 14: be interpreted to mean wealth. If the statute doesn't say can't, 411 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 14: then I guess that means we can. No, And the 412 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 14: major policy Doctrines also says that if you're going to 413 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 14: do trillions of dollars of regulation, well maybe that should 414 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 14: be something debated and voted on by Congress as opposed 415 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 14: to bureaucrats at an agency. 416 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 13: In Washington, DC. 417 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 14: So we come in, we want to follow the rule 418 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 14: of law. We want to follow the plane reading of 419 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 14: the law, and these rules, these regulations over the course 420 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 14: the last couple of years, not just the last couple 421 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 14: of years, but that's a lot of decisions that were 422 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 14: made where they're trying to get rid of the coal industry, 423 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 14: for example. So we come in and we're going to 424 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 14: respect the Supreme Court decisions in West Virginia Verse EPA, 425 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 14: Michigan Verus EPA. 426 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 8: And more. 427 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 14: And we proposed that we're going to rescind the Clean 428 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 14: Power Plan two point zero. Sounds good until you get 429 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 14: into the details the twenty twenty four mercury and air 430 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 14: toxic standards. Well, of course we need mercury and air 431 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 14: toxic standards, and we still will have mercury and air 432 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 14: toxic standards, but the twenty twenty four mercurr and air 433 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 14: toxic standards will get reconsidered again, just like the Clean 434 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 14: Power Plan and some of these other rules that came 435 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 14: out trying to get all these coal plants across America 436 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 14: to just shut down. 437 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 13: We sent to Washington. We sent to Congress here in 438 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 13: d C. 439 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 14: Three biden EPA waivers that were given the state of 440 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 14: California that they used for their electric vehicle mandate and 441 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 14: other tailpipe emissions. Congress then reviewed it, and under the 442 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 14: Congression Review Act, they passed three bills signed by the 443 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 14: President getting rid of those EPA waivers. 444 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 13: We also proposed. 445 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 14: For recision the two thousand and nine Obama EPA endangerment 446 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 14: Finding and all other regulations that followed based on the 447 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 14: endangerment finding for light, medium, and heavy duty vehicles. We're 448 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 14: talking about a trillion dollars with the most conservative s 449 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 14: the mint that would get safe. 450 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 13: So there you're talking vehicles. 451 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 14: You could talk energy policy, manufacturing, and so much more. 452 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 14: The consequences of these policies are real. We're choosing to 453 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 14: protect the environment and grow the economy. 454 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 13: It's not a binary choice. 455 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 14: We're not going to choose between the two. The American 456 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 14: public choose both. 457 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 13: We choose both. 458 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: Can you elaborate a little bit on our refining, our 459 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: ability to refine here because people don't understand how much 460 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: that has been taken away, how critically important it is, 461 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: and then how hard it is to build him again. 462 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: You don't build them in a month. 463 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 14: President Trump is talking about unleashing energy dominance. He formed 464 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 14: the National Energy Dominance Council, Doug Bergham as chair, as 465 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 14: Secretary of Interior, Chris Wright vice chair, Secretary of Energy. 466 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 14: I'm on that, Secretary Lutnik, and others. We meet with 467 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 14: the President frequently to discuss policy as relates to National 468 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 14: Energy's Council. 469 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 13: We want to President Trump wants. 470 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 14: To unleash energy dominance right here in our own country. 471 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 14: We tap into our own energy supply better than so 472 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 14: many other countries do elsewhere around the world, so it's 473 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 14: better for economy or national security, but also for our environment. 474 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 14: We also need to build more pipelines. President Trump has 475 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 14: been pushing a new LNG pipeline over the course of 476 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 14: hundreds of miles in Alaska, right next to the Trans 477 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 14: Alaska Pipeline. He's been pushing Constitution pipeline, which would deliver 478 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 14: natural gas from Pennsylvania to New England. NeSSI pipeline, which 479 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 14: would be built delivering natural gas onto Long Island. There's 480 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 14: a big natural gas pipeline that's been getting advanced in 481 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 14: southwest United States, delivering from New Mexico and into Arizona. 482 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 13: And the list goes on. 483 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 14: So it's not just about tapping into what is under us, 484 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 14: but making sure it could get to these residents and 485 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 14: businesses across the entire country, keep costs down, be able 486 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 14: to create jobs, and allow Americans to be able to 487 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 14: afford UH to heat their home and to fill their 488 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 14: car up and not have to rely on foreign sources 489 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 14: of energy in order to do it. 490 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 8: Lee. 491 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: What's cloud seating? You see a million Internet crack pop 492 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories on what it is, what it isn't, what's happening? 493 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: What is it? Didn't we make it rain? 494 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 14: Yes, that that is something that is allowed in a 495 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 14: in some states here in the United States. It's not 496 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 14: a national Act of Congress that has cloud seating all 497 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 14: across the entire country, but some states have been supportive 498 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 14: of cloud seating, specifically to be able to create elements 499 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 14: to make it rain. 500 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: UH. 501 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 14: And that's something that you know, I've been outspoken on 502 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 14: with concerns as it relates to different forms of weather modification, geoengineering, 503 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 14: I believe that a lot of this has not been 504 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 14: thoroughly researched and vetted out enough. And you know, I 505 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 14: just did an interview with another person in the media 506 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 14: on the right a few days ago where that person 507 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 14: pointed out, you know, we shouldn't be playing god with 508 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 14: these activities, and gosh, the you know, the point is 509 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 14: well taken, especially when this hasn't been thoroughly adequately substantially vetted. 510 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 13: Out and researched. 511 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 14: In the past, the federal government has even funded some 512 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 14: of these activities. 513 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 13: There's some talk where private actors are. 514 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 14: Discussing large investments to scale up their activity of geoengineering. 515 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 14: In one case, you know, we're we're aware of an 516 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 14: entity that has not scaled up, but they want to 517 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 14: put sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, which causes acid rain, 518 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 14: and they want to do it with a desire to 519 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 14: advance stratospheric aerosol injection solar radiation modification to try to 520 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 14: get the Sun to deflect off of different levels of 521 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 14: our atmosphere so that they can help combat global warming. 522 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 14: But instead of these entities going rogue and being able 523 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 14: to have a free run to be able to do 524 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 14: this This is something that I've been outspoken about in 525 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 14: educating the public. I believe that the American public should 526 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 14: know whatever I get to know whatever I know as 527 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 14: administrative VPA. And I would also say that this isn't 528 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 14: just about the United States. There are other countries that 529 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 14: have been pursuing geoengineering. And even if it was stopped 530 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 14: here in the United States, if it's happening elsewhere, what 531 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 14: happens over over the Asian continent or over the European 532 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 14: continent impacts other continents, including our own. Just because it 533 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 14: happens out of our country doesn't mean that an impact. 534 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 14: And then my last thing I'll say is this my 535 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 14: only word advice for anyone listening who cares about these issues. 536 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 13: You have to be accurate. 537 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 14: We all have to be accurate in how we discuss it. 538 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 13: I've found some people confusing different terms. 539 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 14: Where they'll describe, you know, they'll show a picture or 540 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 14: a video and they'll describe it as something other than 541 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 14: what it actually is. It's very important for credibility of 542 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 14: the argument to make sure that everyone is communicating here 543 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 14: accurately with what exactly you're showing in that picture and 544 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 14: that video that's going to be key, but I think 545 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 14: a lot of people in this country just don't. 546 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 13: They've just ignored this issue. 547 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 14: They save Anyone talking about it must be whearing a 548 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 14: tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist, and none of it's true. We 549 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 14: put up on our web page EPA dot gov slash 550 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 14: geoengineering everything that we were able to collect after I 551 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 14: was sworn in and I told the staff here at EPA, 552 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 14: I have a lot of questions. 553 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 13: Here are my questions. 554 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 14: Whatever the answers are, I'm not trying to bias the answers. 555 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 14: I just want to know what the answer, what the 556 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 14: answer is, what the fact is, what the truth is, 557 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 14: and whatever you. 558 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 13: Tell me, I'm going to share publicly. 559 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 14: Because I don't see any reason whatsoever for me to 560 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 14: be holding anything back. We should be fully transparent, whether 561 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 14: that proves a theory true or it proves a theory untrue. 562 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 14: We should just be telling the public whatever it is 563 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 14: we know. 564 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Lee, thank you so much for the work you're doing. Brother, 565 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: appreciate you. I appreciate sleep too. I'm a huge sleep fan. 566 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: And as you get older, it's not as easy to 567 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: come by, right. It's just not when you're ten years old, 568 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: you go to sleep for twelve hours, no problem. You 569 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: sleep on a rock. You get older, your shoulder hurts, strass, 570 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: wake up about things. That's why I'm a big believer 571 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: in dream powder from Beam, because you know, sometimes you 572 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: can need something to help you go to sleep. But 573 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: all that stuff makes you feel horrible in the morning. 574 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: You don't feel rested. I don't feel like you had 575 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: good natural sleep. You feel like you didn't sleep at all. 576 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: But dream powder is different because, as you can see, 577 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: it's natural or natural things, and it's all natural stuff. 578 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: It's a cup of hot chocolate, and who doesn't love 579 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: hot chocolate. My favorite is the cinnamon chocolate. I need 580 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: a good night's sleep, I go have a cup of 581 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: hot chocolate about a half hour for bed. Sometimes I'll 582 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: sit there and sip it in bed, knock out, sleep 583 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: like a baby, and wake up not groggy the next day. 584 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: Try it Shopbeam dot com, slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back. 585 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 8: Women are the kind of people that people come out 586 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 8: of so. 587 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 15: You just think they're meant to have babies. 588 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 8: They're dis avestent. No, it doesn't take any talent to 589 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 8: simply reproduce biologically. The wife and mother who is the 590 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 8: chief executive of the home is entrusted with three or 591 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 8: four or five eternal souls. 592 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 15: I'm here as a working journalist and I'm a mom 593 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 15: of three. 594 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 8: Good for you? 595 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: Is that an issue? 596 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 8: No, no, it's not automatically an. 597 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 5: Issue, Wilson says. In his vision of a Christian society, 598 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 5: women as individuals shouldn't be able to vote. 599 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 15: Looking at the leadership page for Christ Church, it's all men. 600 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 15: Do you accept women and leadership roles in the church 601 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 15: and government in the church? 602 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 8: No? Wow, because the Bible says it's not to Well. 603 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 6: That's not what happens in the Bible. Women do lead 604 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 6: all the time. 605 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 5: Progressive Faith leader Reverend Jennifer Butler is concerned about Wilson's 606 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 5: growing influence. 607 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 6: He is rapidly gaining empower. He has hundreds of churches 608 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 6: established around the country. They actually literally wanted to take 609 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 6: over towns and cities and they have access to this administration. 610 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: Reverend joining me now Minister of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, 611 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: Douglas Wilson I loved I loved the interview pastor how 612 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: mortified she was at the basic teachings that are in 613 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: the Bible. Should women be in church leadership. No, it's 614 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: laid out pretty well by Paul. 615 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 8: Right, it's kind of just says it right there. 616 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 10: Yeah. 617 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 8: No, and then the lady. The lady said, oh, they 618 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 8: lead all the time. I think, man, what Bible are 619 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 8: you reading? 620 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 9: Well? 621 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: I actually wanted to ask you about that because I 622 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: went to Boston recently, had to go back there for work. 623 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: And one is a beautiful city, I should note. But two, 624 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: I think every single church I walked past had pride 625 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: flags hanging on them. Is this a specific, dominant DONA 626 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: nation problem in the country. How in the world do 627 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: we end up with female reverence with pride flags dangling 628 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: from the churches? How did we get here? Yeah? 629 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 8: I think that that's a function of it being in 630 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 8: New England when the settlers landed, when the Puritans built 631 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 8: out the superstructure, the in a relationship of church and 632 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 8: state and all of that. In New England it was 633 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 8: robustly Christian and Bible believing and so on. But when 634 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 8: it went to seed over a century ago in New England, 635 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 8: it basically it's what you have in the Bible, where 636 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 8: they have the form of religion but they deny the 637 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 8: power of it. Basically, that's what apostasy looks like. 638 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: In the interview, she asked you about us being a 639 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: Christian nation. 640 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 15: Here was is planting a church in d C part 641 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 15: of your mission to try to turn this into a 642 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 15: Christian Yes. 643 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 8: So every society is theocratic. The only question is whose theo. 644 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 8: In a secular democracy, it would be demos. The people 645 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 8: in a Christian republic would be christ Well, what would. 646 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 15: You say to someone watching this to say, look, I'm 647 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 15: a Muslim. Who are you to say your worldview is 648 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 15: better than mine, that your God is better than mine? 649 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 8: Well, if I went to Saudi Arabia, I would fully 650 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 8: expect to live under their God's rules. 651 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 15: But you said earlier that you want this to be 652 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 15: a Christian world. Yes, so you want to supplant their religion. 653 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 8: With your Christian Yes, by peaceful means, by sharing the Gospel. 654 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 8: There's a lot of work yet to do. I believe 655 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 8: that we are working our little corner of the vineyard. 656 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: Well, she as mortified by you, as it appears in 657 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: the video, she. 658 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 8: Was as astonished. 659 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: Right. 660 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 8: She was very appable and friendly in person, and I 661 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 8: was really I really appreciated interacting with her. But we 662 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 8: we did astonish her. So a lot of those those 663 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 8: reaction shots were reactions to things that she wasn't expecting 664 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 8: anybody in the modern world to actually say. So it 665 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 8: was more surprised than anything else. Just astonishment. 666 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: What why why are there so few who speak like this? Now? 667 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: This is all biblical stuff. None of this stuff shocks me, 668 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: and none of it would shock anybody who opened up 669 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: a Bible. Why don't more pastors speak like this? Now? 670 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: How do we get so soft? 671 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 8: Yeah? We were cowed into thinking that it would be 672 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 8: possible for us to hold these convictions behind our eyes, 673 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 8: in between our ears, and then, you know, we'll just 674 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 8: believe these things in our faith community. And if we 675 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 8: play nice, then they're going to leave us alone. And 676 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 8: that was a lie. And it turns out they're not 677 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 8: going to leave us alone. And a lot of Christians 678 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 8: are starting to wake up. Oh, you know, they're not 679 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 8: keeping the deal. They're not keeping their deal. We shouldn't 680 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 8: have gone along with the deal in the first place, 681 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 8: but doubly so now that they're not keeping it. 682 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: She also asked you about Supreme Court gay. 683 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 5: Marriage here it was what he also wants gone same 684 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 5: sex marriage because he thinks homosexuality is a crime. 685 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 8: In the late seventies and early eighties, sodomy was a 686 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 8: felony in all fifty states. That America of that day 687 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 8: was not a totalitarian hellhole. 688 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 6: So you would like America. 689 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 13: To go back to that. 690 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, that must go. Yeah, that was the Democrat 691 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: Party's position back in Obama. This is, I mean, where 692 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: we're at now is new. People don't realize how new 693 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: it is. 694 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a it's an utter novelty. And when you 695 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 8: when you read the Aberga felt decision is as I 696 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 8: have done, just as Kennedy was just pulling things out 697 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 8: of the stratosphere. It was just a remarkable display of arrogance. Really, 698 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 8: the human race has understood what marriage was for thousands 699 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 8: of years, and then there's this intellect this this fad 700 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 8: comes along about the same epistemic level. 701 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: Of the hula hoop. 702 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 8: Right, this fad comes along, everybody swept up in it, 703 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 8: and we start tinkering with ancient law, ancient law, and 704 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 8: we just set it aside for the sake of this 705 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 8: gaga mami understanding of marriage. Okay, you know, come on. 706 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 8: And then they tried to enforce it afterwards with the cudgel. 707 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 8: So anybody who has eyes in their head and knows 708 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 8: that male and female together make it possible to have babies. 709 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 8: You know, an old school approach to this sort of thing. 710 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 8: If anybody is bold enough to say that those sorts 711 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 8: of things in public, they get hounded and harassed and 712 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 8: fired and made a public display of It's just astonishing. 713 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: It is pastor. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 714 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: You like this kind of stuff. Would you like to 715 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: hear somebody expand a bit on these things? You know? 716 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: Mike Slater does a great podcast on that stuff, Politics 717 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: by Faith. If it interests you, Slater's the man anyway. 718 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: I love Mike. It's really really good. It's really really good. 719 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: It's refreshing and bring you down. Highly recommend you go 720 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: check out the Politics by Faith podcast. All right, all right, 721 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: we have light in the move next. All right, it 722 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: is time to in the mood and look, there are 723 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: errors in politics. People make mistakes. All people do left right, middle, 724 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,439 Speaker 1: everybody makes mistakes. But there are errors, and then there 725 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: are unforced errors in politics. Remember Elizabeth Warren, it's a 726 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: great one. When she tried to tell everybody she was 727 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: an Indian and then privately, privately she went and took 728 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: a DNA test, and the DNA test showed that she 729 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: was pretty much the whitest person in the history of mankind. Okay, well, 730 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,959 Speaker 1: you could have ended there and you would have never known. 731 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: I would have never known. Then they publicly release the 732 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: results showing her to be the whitest person on the planet. 733 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 1: That's an unforced error. That's an own goal, if you will. 734 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: So this communist man, Donnie running for mayor of New York. 735 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: He decides he's going to get down on the bench 736 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: and try to bench press one hundred and thirty five pounds. 737 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: And here's how that went. 738 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 8: Now, you move up in the paul over the pole. 739 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 13: Yeah, don't go, let. 740 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 9: Go, let go. Let's go. 741 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: Look go, yeah, let me go, Let me go. 742 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 8: Let me get do let me get do it. 743 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 9: Let me get. 744 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: You can't bench one hundred and thirty five pounds. Okay, 745 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 1: but let's set that aside. Some people can't bench press. 746 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: How do you not know you can do it before 747 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: you lay down and try. How do you not go 748 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: to the gym somewhere, maybe maybe get some people to 749 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: cover you up, just so you can test it and 750 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: make sure. How do you put that on videotape. I 751 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: don't know how he comes back from that. Let's see 752 00:44:59,520 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: them all.