1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: On this Tuesday. Hockey Tomorrow, Basketball on Thursday. We'll check 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: in with the New York Knicks coming up at about 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: twenty minutes from now. Also the Ravens running back Derek Henry, 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: friend of the show, will stop buying the final hour 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: of the program. Just got that contract extension, two year 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: contract extension. NFL otaser underway. Stefan Diggs is with the 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: Patriots but hasn't spoken to the media, at least not yet. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: Big news out of Detroit the Lions All Pro center 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: Frank Ragnell announced his retirement at the age of twenty nine. 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: You lose both coordinators, they became head coaches. Now you 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: lose your starting center. That's a big deal, big deal, 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: and you start to look at this and maybe it's 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: just a coincidence because Frank retires at the age of 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: twenty nine, Calvin Johnson retired at the age of thirty 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: and Barry Sanders retired at the age of thirty one, 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: all with the Lions. Now, Calvin and Barrier hall of famers, 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: and Frank might have been on his way to being 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. It's hard to find a center. 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: But didn't they draft a center pretty high up in 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: this past draft. Can we find that out? Maybe second 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: round and Frank had been injured before the year before. 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: I think that finding a great center, you know, we 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: usually talk about that left tackle, that center is equally 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: as important. But him retiring at the age of twenty nine, 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: and to announce it at the beginning of June, I 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: think that's what surprised people. If they had the idea 29 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: that he was going to retire, or maybe they're, you know, 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: something contractually retiring at the beginning of June. 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: But he was second team All Pro center, played almost 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: one hundred regular season games. His last game he played 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: was age twenty eight. So retires at the age of 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: twenty nine, Yes, Paulin. 36 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: The Lions did draft two offensive linemen, not specifically a center, 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: but guys who played multiple positions. 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so they had an idea that this was 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: coming their way, all right, So we'll check in with 40 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: the Knicks. Derrick Henry will stop by as well. Stanley 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: Cup Final Wednesday. The NBA Finals will be coming up 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: on Thursday. Charles Barkley was with US yesterday in the 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: second hour of the program, and he brought up something 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: interesting because I was under the impression that ESPN is 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: basically outsourcing inside the NBA, just getting those guys. You 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: continue to do the show in Atlanta, and then we're 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: going to bring you in under the ESPN umbrella. You know, 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: Pat McAfee does his show in Indianapolis and not really 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: affiliated with ESPN. I mean, he part of College Game Day, 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: but he's really under his own umbrella and bringing in 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: inside the NBA. And I thought that was going to 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: be their NBA show, and then Charles goes, no, maybe 53 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: maybe half the time will be on ESPN, but he 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: said that we shot a pilot, so they had Jack 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: and Ernie and Kenny and Charles try to do a 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: show no highlights because they're not a rights holder anymore. 57 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, what is TNT now. 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: I know that they're trying to get something out of 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: these guys under contract, but what are you going to show? 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: How are you going to show it? And why am 61 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: I tuning in for that? As much as I like 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: those guys, but what are you doing If you can't 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: show highlight? You can't be inside the NBA if you 64 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: can't really get inside the NBA, and I like those 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: guys talking. But then there's a lot more to that show. 66 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: And I'm guessing ESPN is okay with this, you're going 67 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: to purchase this show that you're only getting the show 68 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: fifty percent of the time at the most, maybe one 69 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: night a week you're getting this. 70 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: It just feels like that there's I got a lot 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: of questions. Charles didn't have any answers, and he's part 73 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: of the show. That was the amazing part. He goes, 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: we did this stupid pilot. It was terrible, terrible, and 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: I go, oh my goodness. But no, they got a 76 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: long time here, got a big window here to workshop 77 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: this so they can try to figure out what they're 78 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: going to do. 79 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: On TNT. 80 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: Stat of the Day brought to you my Panini America, 81 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: the Official Trading Cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Poll 82 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: question for hour two is going to be what Seaton. 83 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 5: Well, let me update you real quick on our one 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: and then we do have a new one for hour two. 85 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 6: MM. 86 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 5: That'll be fun. Let's see, we've got a NFL team 87 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 5: that will drop off this season and miss the playoffs 88 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: right now, Vikings running away with that one that was 89 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 5: Marvin's suggestion, followed by Paul and Dan's Commanders, Rams and 90 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 5: Chiefs not getting too much vote there, and then off 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 5: to a more if he start, Bill Belichick still has 92 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 5: seventy percent of that vote over Stefan Diggs and the Patriots. 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: Belichick's stays the entire season. I don't think the Stefan 94 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: Diggs thing is gonna I mean, it's it's now, it's 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: it's present, But I think once the season starts then 96 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: it'll be over Belichick. I mean he's on the clock. Yeah, 97 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: this doesn't go away. 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 7: Now. 99 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: If he wins, then people don't care about his relationship, 100 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, with his girlfriend. 101 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 7: Yes. 102 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: The thing that's unfortunate for Stefan Diggs is because he's 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 5: a by all accounts, a great guy. He's always been 105 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: awesome every time he comes on the show or whatever. 106 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: But it makes jumping from a couple of teams go 107 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 5: from well, maybe he just couldn't find the right fit 108 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 5: to oh wait, maybe there's an issue there. 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: Well we saw this with Tara Lewens, Hall of Fame talent, 110 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: but kind of where out as welcome right, not the 111 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: right place at the right time, didn't get along with 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: the quarterback, whatever it might be, there was always a 113 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: miry out of reasons, excuses. But with Stefan Diggs, you've 114 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: been on a couple of teams. You know, we were 115 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: surprised what happened in Buffalo, and then you go to 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: the Texans and you get hurt and now you're in 117 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: New England and signed a pretty good contract there, which 118 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: was surprising. 119 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, pulling, But there's a guy who was midway through 120 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: his career, he was very well liked in Minnesota, works 121 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 4: his way to Buffalo, which worked out great. His four 122 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: years in Buffalo, he averaged one hundred and fifteen catches 123 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: and thirteen hundred yards a year. That's the kind of 124 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: stuff that gets you on the door of the Hall 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: of Fame. And now his career is yeah, he flucks, Yeah, 126 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: he's not a Hall of Famer, but yeah, you find 127 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: these receivers have about a five year stretch where they 128 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: were great. It's just hard to sustain that at that 129 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: position where you go, oh my gosh, that guy lights 130 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: out for five years and then after that end up 131 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: in another team, start to trail off a little bit here, 132 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: and that's what happened to stuff on Diggs and he 133 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: got injured as well. All right, we'll get to some 134 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: phone calls here coming up eight seven to seven to 135 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: three DP show Matt in South Bend. Hi, Matt, what's 136 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: on your mind today? 137 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 9: Good morning, Dan, Thanks for lendn's. Thanks for taking my call. 138 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 9: I have two things for you. As I've said before 139 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 9: to you, I'm the guy that got you in the 140 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 9: unfortunate Notre Dame fireball situation. With the talk last week 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 9: it coming potentially coming back to town. I wanted to offer 142 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 9: first see and I owe you a pie of the 143 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 9: base if you want to give that to me in person. 144 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 9: I lived here right across the street from Notre Dame, 145 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 9: and I would give you that honor. 146 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, we'll take you up. We're going to 147 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: try to go to the USC game. And the last 148 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: time we were there it was a USC game. We're 149 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: looking for a beer where everybody's tailgating, and I'm and 150 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: you know, my guys go, we'll just be Dan Patrick, 151 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: get us some beers. 152 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: So I walk around. 153 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: All of a sudden I got Matt and his crew 154 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: who say, hey, you want to do a fireball, And 155 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: then I said I'll do one. And then they like 156 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: fifteen cameras came out. I go no, I'm not no, no, no, no, 157 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: We're not doing this. So next time, though, just give 158 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: me a beer, Matt, not a fireball. 159 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: Okay. 160 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 9: So that was the second part that I wanted to 161 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 9: offer you, is being here now ten years. I have 162 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 9: already arranged if you guys want a private tailgate where 163 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 9: all the beer will be staged, the local Miller Lite 164 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 9: distributors already a degree. Yeah, I'll have a local grill master. 165 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: Okay, that's how you call in and become a friend 166 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: at the show, absolutely, Matt will. 167 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: We'll keep you posted. 168 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: But we're going to try to come in for the 169 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: USC game and man, maybe do the show on campus 170 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: for a couple of days. That's that's my goal, and 171 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: for the people in Iowa, I still want to bring 172 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: the show there. We just have to find the right 173 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: time and see if there's anything else going on. 174 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: We do want to bring the show to Iowa. 175 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: I promised before I call this a career, we will 176 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: be in Iowa. But we're trying to go to South 177 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: Bend because who knows how many more games USC and 178 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Notre Dame will have. But Matt, thank you for the 179 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: invitation and we look forward to taking you up on that, 180 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: Nathan and san Antonio. 181 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: Hi, Nate, what's on your mind today? 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 7: Man? That's a tough fact to follows on deck? But anyways, 183 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 7: I missed the show yesterday because I had jury duty. 184 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 7: Good news is I was in and out in three 185 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 7: and a half hours, So salute to that. My question 186 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 7: for you is you had Charles on yesterday. Is Charles 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 7: Barkley the most unfireable person in sports media history? That's question? 188 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: Oh history? 189 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: If he hasn't been fired yet, that he's not going 190 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: to be fired. Yeah, stephen A, I'm guessing with that contract, 191 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: probably not fireable. McAfee might be. I guess, but you know, 192 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: after a while, I mean, you get you get to 193 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: that lofty perch, and your contributions to ESPN makes it really, 194 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: really difficult, you know, because Paddle pushed the envelope. Stephen 195 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: A pushes the envelope. Barkley pushes the envelope. That's that's 196 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: why you hire them. You can't you can't be upset 197 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: at them. If they push the envelope, you can't go. 198 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: I'll be damned. 199 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: Did you hear what Barkley said? Or McAfee said, or 200 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: stephen A said, this is why you hire them. Yes, 201 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: Martin Nathan said all time. What about Howard Cosell. I 202 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: think at the end of his career, he probably I 203 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: mean Brent Musburger got fired by CBS. 204 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: Did he really? 205 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 7: Yes? 206 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that. 207 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: Was at the final four in Denver, and I remember 208 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm out there and at the final four, I'm going, 209 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: did you hear the news? And I go, no, Brent Musburger, 210 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: let go by CBS. I go no, No, he wasn't. 211 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: And then I realized that he was. We're all expendable. 212 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: But the word fire, you know, that takes on a 213 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: lot of different meanings because you can be not renewed, 214 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: let go budgetary. You know, you're never quite sure. But yeah, 215 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: if Charles hasn't been fired, that he's not going to 216 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: be fired. Elliott in Iowa, Hi, Elliott, Hey, Dan H 217 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: five nine. 218 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 10: I was wondering, Well, first of all, I'm in sports 219 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 10: media myself twenty nine and still still kind of young 220 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 10: in the gig. So first of all, I wanted to 221 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 10: say that you're my goat. I told my girlfriend multiple 222 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 10: times actually this week, that you're the greatest of all 223 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 10: time in sports radio. So you're my favorite. Secondly, I 224 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 10: wanted to say, or I wanted to ask if you 225 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 10: could go back at the start of your career and 226 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 10: ask yourself or sorry, give yourself a piece of advice. 227 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: What would that be. 228 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: Don't put a time frame on success, because I wanted 229 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: everything to be kind of incrementally, Like at thirty you're 230 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: going to be here. 231 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: At thirty five, you're going to be here. At forty, 232 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: you'll be here. 233 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: Don't have any time frame on it because you it's 234 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: already tough enough to do it, and you've added pressure 235 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: because you need to be I wanted to be at 236 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: ESPN by the time I was thirty. Well, I just 237 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: lost out on a weekend job in Daton, Iowa at 238 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: twenty seven, so my path to ESPN was going to 239 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: take a little bit longer. But I never stopped thinking 240 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: about that, And even when I took the job at CNN, 241 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: and I kept thinking, eventually I'll end up at ESPN. 242 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: I it was the only place that I mean, I 243 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: didn't have a plan. B. This is the only thing 244 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: I knew I could do, and somehow, some way I 245 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: was going to make it there. But I will say 246 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: that you know, it was five years after, I sent 247 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: a letter in a resume take to Bob Lee, who 248 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: was the eleven o'clock Sports Center anchor, and I said, 249 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: would you look at this and critique it for me? 250 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: And I'm forever indebted to Bob Lee. First of all, 251 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: he was somebody I truly looked up to with his 252 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: work ethic, and he wanted to be a journalist. He 253 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: wanted to do it correctly. He wasn't a hot take guy. 254 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: He wanted to be He wanted to have us be 255 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: up with news organizations that we were every bit the 256 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: news organization as the networks. But Bob watched my video. 257 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: I did five minutes where I had lived five minutes 258 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: of sports, no teleprompter, just five minutes, and I filmed 259 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: it myself, rented out equipment, sent it to ESPN with 260 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: a letter saying, you know, would you look at this? 261 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: Bob sent me a full page letter back critiquing my 262 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: five minutes, and he said, you're not ready for this, 263 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: but one day you will be. A little over five 264 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: years later, I'm sitting next to Bob Lee on the 265 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: Sports Center set. You know, I believe in fate. There's 266 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: a lot of luck involved in it. But I knew 267 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: if your name gets called, be ready, and I was ready, 268 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: so but Bob, Bob took the time. 269 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm just a. 270 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: Nobody who just missed out on a job at the 271 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: you know, in Dayton, Ohio and was going to give 272 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: up on TV at age twenty seven, and I thought, God, 273 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: I can do this. And I remember renting out all 274 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: this equipment and doing five minutes and then like I 275 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: had to get up and stop the camera. 276 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: But I sent it, and. 277 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: I was shocked when he sent me a letter back 278 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: and then gave me the encouragement that you can do this. 279 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: And then I got the job at CNN. And then 280 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: five years later, I call up ESPN and I have 281 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: no idea who I'm talking to, and I know John 282 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: Walsh just took over Sports Center and I called him 283 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: cold calling. I said, hey, do you know who I'm? 284 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick? Do you know who I am? And he 285 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: said yes. I said, you shouldn't hire me. He goes, yes. 286 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: That was a Friday, and I said, he goes, when 287 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: can you come up? I go now and he goes, no, 288 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: like next week. I got to get everybody together. I 289 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: said tuesday, and he goes, all right. I went up 290 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: Tuesday I didn't even negotiate a contract. I just said, 291 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: you pay me whatever you think I'm worth, because I'm home, 292 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: this is where I want to be. And I should 293 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: have had an agent negotiating because they didn't exactly go. 294 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: You know what, we're gonna overpay this. 295 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: Well, three months later, I'm sitting next to Bob Lee 296 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: on the Sports Center set and actually my first show 297 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: was with Chris Berman. You know, it's a wild ride 298 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: and you know, truly indebted with you know, Chris, tom Mees, 299 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: the late tom Mes, John Walsh, and Bob Lee. They 300 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: took a chance and forever grateful for that. All right, 301 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: let me take a break. Let's check in with the 302 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: New York Knicks. 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There's a few questions that 338 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: need to be answered if you're going to get Stefan 339 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: Diggs to answer those questions. Stephan Bundy Stepan Bondi, the 340 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: Knicks beat reporter for the New York Post, back on 341 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 2: the program. Great to see you again. Give me the 342 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: one word you would use to describe the next season. 343 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 12: Uh, success? I mean listen. I know that there are 344 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 12: some fans who were very upset with how they had 345 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 12: ended in the conference finals, but this was the first 346 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 12: conference finals for this franchise in twenty five years. It 347 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 12: was a new core. They won fifty one games, which 348 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 12: was the most that they've ever done since two twenty thirteen. 349 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 12: They beat the defending champs in the second round. Nobody 350 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 12: gave them a shot against the Celtics. They beat them 351 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 12: in six games, and they ran up against a Pacers 352 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 12: team that I thought a lot of people underestimated, including myself. 353 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 12: This was one of the best teams in the NBA 354 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 12: after January first, and they were hot and they took 355 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 12: it to him. So listen, overall, you know, you like 356 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 12: what you saw from Jalen Brunson. Certainly there were some 357 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 12: chemistry issues that need to get ironed out. I thought 358 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 12: mckel bridges struggled throughout the season, But overall, I mean, listen, 359 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 12: given the history of this franchise, I think it was 360 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 12: a success. 361 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: Okay, but you're being very rational here, fair Nick. Fans 362 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: aren't rational here, and they want changes made. And if 363 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: it's Tom Thibodeau or it's Karl Anthony Towns, give us 364 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: a crystal ball what you think will happen and should 365 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: happen this offseason. 366 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 12: So I think they are going to try to be 367 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 12: aggressive and trying to upgrade this roster. I don't see 368 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 12: the player out there that's gonna make a lot of sense. 369 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 12: I don't think they have the assets to go get 370 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 12: Gianni Santa Tokounmpo. I don't think Kevin Durant when you 371 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 12: look at the salary that he's making and what you 372 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 12: have to do to match those salaries, makes a lot 373 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 12: of sense when you're trading for a thirty six year old, 374 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 12: injury prone guy. I get it. He's great in though, 375 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 12: he's a great offensive player. He'd be great in the playoffs. 376 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 12: But first you need to get to the playoffs, and 377 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 12: in order to do that, you're gonna have to trade 378 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 12: two players who eat up a lot of minutes for 379 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 12: the Knicks for the Knicks, And I just don't see 380 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 12: how you can do that in a tib system when 381 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 12: you don't have much depth. And now, all of a sudden, 382 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 12: you've traded two players on your roster for an injury 383 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 12: prone guy that's not, you know, not gonna make it 384 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 12: through eighty two games. That trade doesn't make a lot 385 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 12: of sense to me right now. Listen, things develop in 386 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 12: the NBA landscape that shock you. I don't know who's 387 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 12: gonna become available. I don't know who's gonna shake loose. 388 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 12: But the way I see it right now, I think 389 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 12: the best move for the Knicks is to just add depth. 390 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 12: I think that was a big issue in this series, 391 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 12: especially in the in the Pacers series, they just were 392 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 12: overwhelmed by the amount of Pacers depth and players on 393 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 12: the bench. They couldn't match that and I think they 394 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 12: have enough assets right now to go out and free agency, 395 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 12: look at the trade market and find people to boost 396 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 12: up that bench. I think that would be the move 397 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 12: right now. 398 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: How surprised were you that people were surprised that Karl 399 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: Anthony Towns can't play defense. 400 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 12: It's shocking to me. I don't understand why the fans 401 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 12: were so shocked by this, because this is who he is. 402 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 12: He's ten years now in the league, he was drafted 403 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 12: in twenty fifteen. This is who they They got mckel Bridges, 404 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 12: they got O. J. A. Nanoby, the massive defensive deficiencies 405 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 12: of Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns, and we saw 406 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 12: a play out exactly how I predicted it would unfold. 407 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 12: He's a great offensive player. He does things that seven 408 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 12: footers shouldn't be able to do to put the ball 409 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 12: in the basket. But he's slow, he struggles with pick 410 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 12: and roll coverage, and he's not a good defender. He 411 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 12: fouls too much and he probably complains too much about 412 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 12: about fouls. So that's Karl ane any Towns in a nutshell. 413 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 12: That's who he's been. I don't understand why Knicks fans 414 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 12: expected it to be something else. But it seemed like 415 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 12: after that Pacers series and after the playoff run, everybody 416 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 12: was taken aback by how poorly he played defensively. That's 417 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 12: who he is. The Minnesota Timberwolves, to compensate for Karl 418 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 12: Anthony Towns defensive deficiencies, went out and got Rudy Gobert. 419 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 12: You know, that's something that the Knicks might need to explore, 420 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 12: is moving Cat to the four. You saw it in 421 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 12: the playoffs. Mitchell Robinson started at center. That's something that 422 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 12: I think the Knicks have to decide whether they view 423 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 12: Kat as a four or a five. 424 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: Handicapped the East moving forward? You know, we don't know 425 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: Tatum's timeframe of coming back. Do the Cavaliers keep their 426 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: core foward together? Philadelphia is a mess Atlanta. I mean, 427 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: if you're gonna Milwaukee, I mean, they're not that many 428 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: teams that are really good in the East. But if 429 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: you're going to handicap that, what do you think happens 430 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: in the offseason with any Do you think Gianis has 431 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: moved Let's start there. 432 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 12: I do think Giannis ends up being moved, but I 433 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 12: you know, I think it's like a sixty forty proposition 434 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 12: because if the Milwaukee Bucks don't see a deal that 435 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 12: makes a lot of sense for them, I would not 436 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 12: pull the trigger if I'm them. You know, we saw 437 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 12: the backlash that that Nico Harrison got by trading Luka Doncic, 438 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 12: the player that the fan base absolutely adored. To me, 439 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 12: Jani sent to Coupo is the greatest player of Milwaukee 440 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 12: Bucks history. He's their number one asset, really their only 441 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 12: asset if you look down their roster. If you give 442 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 12: him up for something for pennies on the dollar, that 443 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 12: that franchise is going to be in a really rough spot. 444 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 12: So I get it. You feel like you o Janni 445 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 12: sent to Tokupo something because he dragged your franchise to 446 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 12: the championship. 447 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: I get it. 448 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 12: But listen if he if he comes out with a 449 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 12: list and says I want to go here, here, and here, 450 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 12: but the Bucks say, well, those teams aren't going to 451 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 12: give us what we want. Then if I'm Milwaukee, I 452 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 12: wait until the trade deadline at least. So maybe that 453 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 12: doesn't happen in the summer, but I do think that 454 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 12: it happens at some point. Because you have a team 455 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 12: in Milwaukee, They're not going to have Dame Lillard. They're 456 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 12: going to struggle next season. So let's assume Johannis. Let's 457 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 12: say he goes out west. Let's say he goes to Houston. 458 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 12: Now you're looking at an Eastern Conferences. I mean, it 459 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 12: would be anyway, but you look at the Eastern Conference, 460 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 12: it's wide open. You mentioned Jason Tatum, He's probably not 461 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 12: going to be available for most, if not all, of 462 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 12: next season. The Pacers are probably the cream of the 463 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 12: crop still, and I think I would put the Knicks 464 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 12: at number two. I mean, the Sixers you mentioned, they 465 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 12: could have to make a big leap, but you never 466 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 12: know what Joel embiid. So yeah, I go one Indiana 467 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 12: to the Knicks, and then it's really just wide open. 468 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: The Thunder are the biggest favorite I think we've seen 469 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals aside from Golden State maybe in 470 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen. But it doesn't it feels 471 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: like nobody knows who they are. That this will be 472 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: almost a hey, let's introduce you to the Oka she 473 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: Thunder here coming up in the NBA Finals, and short 474 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: of that way with the Pacers as well. But I 475 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: don't know, is this the blueprint can can you see 476 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: other teams trying to emulate what we've seen with the 477 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Pacers and or OKC. 478 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think it's a little bit. Both 479 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 12: teams are different. I mean what ok sid C did 480 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 12: was they just completely, you know, gutted the roster and 481 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 12: rebuilt and did it through draft picks. You know, I 482 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 12: don't you know, it is a blueprint. I think though 483 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 12: that you can look at the other side. But remember 484 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 12: the seventy six ers did the same exact thing when 485 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 12: they went through the process and it did not work out. 486 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 12: So listen, it's a treacherous path. Obviously, ok SE has 487 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 12: the number one guy in the business of GM in 488 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 12: Sam Presty. I mean, the guy's a genius. So it 489 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 12: really worked out for him and getting the right pieces. 490 00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 12: SGA is obviously a very phenomenal player. As far as 491 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 12: as far as the Pacers, I think that Tyre's Halliburton 492 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 12: and it has become I think New York made him 493 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 12: almost I mean what he did with it at the Garden, 494 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 12: I think, you know, put him on the national landscape 495 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 12: in a lot of ways. He obviously was there before 496 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 12: he played in the Olympic team. But listen, this guy 497 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 12: has become something something different because of what he did 498 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 12: at Madison Square Garden. And I think that fans, you know, 499 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 12: got to got to know him a little bit better 500 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 12: and got to know his game a little bit better. 501 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 12: So even though people are looking at this series saying, 502 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 12: you know, it's two small market teams, not a lot 503 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 12: of interest, I'm sure the ratings aren't going to be 504 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 12: as good. It is going to be an exciting, thrilling series. 505 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 12: I think the playing styles are fantastic. I do think. Okay, 506 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 12: see though as the better team. 507 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. I know, covering the Knicks, 508 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: there's always a pulse there. It was kind of a 509 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: scary pulse. 510 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 7: Though. 511 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: What was it like leaving after that lost well, they 512 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: launched in Indiana, Yeah, what was it like in New York? 513 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: Though? 514 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 12: It was it was insanity. They lived and died with 515 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 12: every win, with every loss, they rioted either I mean 516 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 12: rioted is a strong word. They partied outside and no 517 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 12: matter what, no matter the result. But I did talk 518 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 12: to Clyde Frasier during the during the Pacer series. This 519 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 12: is a guy who's seen it all, and he said, 520 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 12: this is the wildest I've ever seen New York For 521 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 12: this team. So that's saying something right. I mean, they've 522 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 12: been starving in New York for a successful next team, 523 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 12: because if you look at the landscape you got in 524 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 12: New York, you got people who are Yankees fans, you 525 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 12: got people who are Mets fans. They're divided. You got 526 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 12: Jets and Giants fans. But in New York it's the Knicks. 527 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 12: I mean, you don't tell me about the Nets. It's 528 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 12: the Knicks. So they unite in that way. And we 529 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 12: saw that throughout this playoff run, if. 530 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: The Nets would win a championship, would there be a 531 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: victory parade in New York? 532 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 12: You know that's funny. You mentioned that I covered the 533 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 12: Nets for a little while and this had this idea 534 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 12: was brought up, whether they do it at the Canyon 535 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 12: and the Heroes or whether they do it in Brooklyn. 536 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 12: And I believe the mayor, Mayor Adams was campaigning on 537 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 12: the idea that he would have the parade in Brooklyn, 538 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 12: so they wouldn't even do it. 539 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: We don't have to worry about them winning a title. 540 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 12: No, no, we don't. They are long ways away from that. 541 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 12: They blew their shot with KD and Kyrie Stephan, thank you. 542 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 12: We appreciate your time. 543 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: All right, thanks, all right, Stephan Bondi he covers the 544 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: Knicks for the New York Post. 545 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: Nobody cares about the Nets. Nobody. 546 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: I mean they did briefly because it was like, I'll 547 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: be damned, Kyrie KD going there and Harden and Okay. 548 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: That still surprises me. 549 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: I thought that Kyrie KD would end up with the 550 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: Knicks and that they would bring, you know, this, this 551 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: fandom that we saw, that you would have that attached 552 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: to those guys because they would give you true hope 553 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: of winning a championship. And this is a good team 554 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: that the Knicks. The Knicks do need depth, but then 555 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: I got to have a coach who's going to trust 556 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: the depth that I'm not playing these guys too many minutes. 557 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: And the fact that fans were surprised that Jalen Brunson 558 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: doesn't play defense or Karl Anthony Towns, that was what 559 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: was surprising that they were. They were surprised, like he 560 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: had one block shot, Karl Anthony Towns had one block 561 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: shot in that entire series against Indiana. But Indiana's going 562 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: to be there again next year. 563 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: Boston with Tatum. If I'm Boston. I make a run 564 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: at Jannis. 565 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: I'd make Jalen Brown available, but I don't think Porzingis 566 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: is back or Drew Holliday Al Horford, so there might 567 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: be some changes there, Yes, Marv. 568 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 13: So if you're trading Jalen Brown for Jannis, do you 569 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 13: add somebody else to Jalen Brown? And you have to Oh, 570 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 13: you have to write Derek White or somebody like that, 571 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 13: because if you're the bus, you're not saying we're not 572 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 13: trading Gianni's just for Jalen Brown. No, you got to 573 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 13: give me, give me Drew Holiday back, give. 574 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: Me No, I don't want I don't want Drew Holiday. 575 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: Gimme fan favorite Peyton Pritcher. You can't get rid of 576 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: a white guy in Boston. What are you doing territorial? Yeah, 577 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: it's gotta stay there. Yeah. 578 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 5: Oh maybe I'm on an island here, But I feel 579 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 5: like it's crazy for the Celtics to let Jalen Brown go. 580 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: If you can get Yannis. Oh there there there aren't 581 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: many guys like Joannis. 582 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: That's not the dude that I would let go. 583 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I would. I mean I like Jalen Brown. 584 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown may flourish by being out out of Boston. 585 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 8: Uh. 586 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: But you know my big concern is Jason Tatum. Yeah, 587 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: how is he ready to play at all next season 588 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: coming back from this? That'd be somebody's gonna make a 589 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: move here, somebody's gonna make a move. Somebody's gonna go 590 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: all right, let's add that extra piece and then we're 591 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: gonna get Yannis? 592 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: Is it? Houston San Antonio? 593 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that'd be fascinating if you had Giannis and 594 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: Victor Daron Fox, although you might have to give up him. Well, 595 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: you'll give up stuff on Castle, the rookie of the year, yes, Marvin. 596 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 13: Yeah, So with the Celtics, you'd be giving up real debt, 597 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 13: and that's what makes the Celtics great, to give up 598 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 13: somebody give up for somebody like Giannis. And I think 599 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 13: when you're trying to win a playoff serison, trying to 600 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 13: win a championship, what do we say so and so 601 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 13: doesn't have enough debt? 602 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 603 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, But and maybe you just say, what 604 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: do we You know, it's crazy for us to even 605 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: think about doing anything because we've already won a title. 606 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: But you're not gonna keep everybody Al Horford's thirty nine 607 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe plays one more season. Porzingis you can't 608 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: count on Drew Holliday star to show some age here. 609 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: White is good, but Tatum and Brown, you know, obviously 610 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: very good. But yeah, you might look at it and go, 611 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: the East is winnable here, Indiana's really good, Cleveland's really good, 612 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: but the West is even tougher. 613 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, poem, I was just looking at the Brooklyn Nets 614 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 4: with their futility. They do have four first round draft 615 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 4: picks this year. I think they have like eight twenty 616 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: twenty four, twenty seven or first round draft. 617 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: It sounds impressive until you look at where they're drafting, 618 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: and I'll go, I always say this, who's doing the drafting? 619 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: If you have Sam Presty at Okay, see drafting, Okay, 620 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: it's like awesome. 621 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: But Brooklyn, yeah, smart. 622 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 13: And to me, they're the one team in the NBA 623 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 13: without a true fan base. 624 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: That's true. It seems fair. 625 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: They're like an activity in Brooklyn, a thing you can 626 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: go do and go see in Brooklyn if you're visiting 627 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 4: or you live near there. But it's not a team 628 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 4: you are live and die with. 629 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I mean there's not passion there obviously. 630 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: I mean I go back to the New Jersey Nets 631 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: when Caliperi was the head coach Draws and Petrovitch was there, 632 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: Carrie Kittles was there, Kim and I hated that arena 633 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: going over there. Keith van Horn, it was just so sterilend. 634 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was bad. 635 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 13: Young Brian Scalabrini was on those Nets team. 636 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: I don't remember Scalabrini, ah, but it was. It was. 637 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: It was a long drive, you know, from Manhattan to 638 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: get over to Jersey. It's not very far, but it 639 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: took a long time. And then coming back and go 640 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: through the Lincoln Tunnel and you're like, and then you 641 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: got to put together a story. You did a feature 642 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: on Carrie Kittles, you know, and you're like, yeah, smart. 643 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 13: We watched some of the best point guard play in 644 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 13: the history of basketball at the IZOD Center in East Rutherford, 645 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 13: Jason Kidd, I mean, those prime next years were so good. 646 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 13: And it's like where they play, Yeah, I don't know, 647 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 13: somewhere in New Jersey. 648 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let me take a break. More phone 649 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: calls coming up. Check in with the Baltimore Ravens with 650 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: Derreck Henry. He'll stop by as well. We're back after. 651 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: This, be sure to catch the live edition of The 652 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am 653 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 654 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: Wapp Ellen in Wisconsin, Hi Ellen, what's on your mind today? 655 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 12: Great? 656 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call. I just want to say 657 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 14: you talking to the young man about waiting to get 658 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 14: the job at ESPN was the best graduation speech I've 659 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 14: ever heard. You know, like a lot of people this 660 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 14: time of year, I've been tortured recently having to go 661 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 14: to graduations. And you made five great points. 662 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 15: You know, you see dream or learn, you know, learn 663 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 15: to evolve. You know you're not entitled in and you know, 664 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 15: give yourself some grace. And I just thought that was 665 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 15: a great, great graduation speech. In the last it's like 666 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 15: two minutes, so Dad and Derrick Henry is a boss. 667 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 15: So thanks for taking my. 668 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: Call, all right, Ellen? Thank you? 669 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 670 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: They You know, I have a lot of students who 671 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: asked me how to get it into the business, and 672 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: there's no direct realm. It's it's whatever path you're on. 673 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: Like I can't tell you get off your path and 674 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: go to another path. You have to figure it out, 675 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: because you know I didn't have anybody there who had 676 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 2: was my compass and said, hey, go this way, go 677 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: that way. I was desperate. I couldn't get a job 678 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: in the business. Took a job. I was doing Headline Sports. 679 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: You're not even on camera at Headline Sports, but I 680 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: was at CNN and it just so happened. Keith Oberman 681 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: was the New York reporter and Keith was leaving to 682 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: take a job in Boston, and my boss said, what 683 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: do you know about New York? I said everything? And 684 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: he goes, have you been there before? And I said absolutely. 685 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: He goes, would you be interested in being the New 686 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: York reporter? I'd never been to New York? Nice and 687 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: but I you know, I survived. But I bet on 688 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: myself and that's what you have to do. But you 689 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: have to find your your path, your time frame. But 690 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: do not put I got to be this age and 691 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 2: if I'm not there, I'm not successful. Or if I 692 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: don't get to ESPN, and that's not the be all 693 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: end all and being on the air. You know, these 694 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 2: guys have great careers. A lot of people I work 695 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: with at ESPN, I've been producers, coordinating producers. They're in 696 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: the business and sometimes their jobs are far more stable 697 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: than those on the air. But you get if you 698 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: want to do it, don't do it because of where 699 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: you're going to do it or how much you're going 700 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: to make, because you're going to be disappointed. Do it 701 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: because you truly want to do this for a living. 702 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: That's the most important part. Mike in California. Hi, Mike, 703 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? 704 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 8: Hey? Dan? Hey? 705 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 9: Dan? 706 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 6: That's hey. 707 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 8: Backroom guys just had an idea for an end of 708 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 8: the show. You know, rather than just do your Friday show, 709 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 8: if you are in Atlanta and it is a super Bowl, 710 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 8: why not do a Sunday Super Bowl watch just a 711 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 8: live webcam Dan the Dan. That's the backroom guys significant 712 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 8: others watch the game. Not a show, not a commentary. 713 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 8: Just we all get to sit in one last time 714 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 8: with these guys that we've been with every morning. And 715 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 8: at the end of the game, Hey, just walk over. 716 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 8: The one thing you have to say is thanks for 717 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 8: coming along for the ride. 718 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: Enjoy the switch in. 719 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 8: That's history. 720 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 3: Are you on Mount Everest? I mean, where are you, Mike? 721 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 8: Then I'll send you I'm I'm finished up by morning. 722 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: Rock, Okay, I'll let you finish up your run. Thank 723 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: you for the phone call. I'll take that under advisement 724 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: of I eventually have to have a final show. It 725 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: feels like I keep pushing the gold post here and 726 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: then there'll be a final show there. But then we're 727 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 2: gonna go to Atlanta to be a final show there, 728 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: and then they'll be the final show on that Friday. 729 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 2: But the final show will be on that Sunday, super 730 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: Bowl Sunday, as Todd. 731 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 13: We can analyze our recap of the Super Bowl and 732 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 13: then do another show beyond Sunday. 733 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 4: Yes, maybe you do it like the end of a 734 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 4: soccer match where you're not exactly sure how much time 735 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: is left on the clock. So it could be like Tuesday, 736 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 4: March eighth, that's it, we're wrapping. 737 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 3: See ya. 738 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: So there's gonna be extra time, stoppage stoppage time. 739 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 4: And just go bye bye. 740 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: Calvin in San Antonio, Hi Calvin, Hell y'all doing good morning? 741 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 742 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 6: I want then I wanted to ask your opinion. I 743 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 6: heard a lot of them talk about where Giannis could go, 744 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 6: but what do you think about the Spurs? And hear 745 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 6: me out the Spurs have the number two overall pick. 746 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 6: They have the number fourteen overall pick. Do you think 747 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 6: the Bucks would be interested in not the number fourteen 748 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 6: overall pick a package of players in addition to next 749 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 6: year's first round pick. And I say that because a 750 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 6: lot of talkers about Cooper Flagg and Dylan Harper. But 751 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 6: I can see if the Spurs were able to pull 752 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 6: that off and have Giannis with Wimby and Stefan Castle. 753 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 6: I can see a scenario where they picked as Bailey 754 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 6: number two overall and have all that linked and shot 755 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 6: making ability with those four Stephan Castle, as Bailey, Wimby 756 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 6: and Yannis, I think they'd be dangerous. 757 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 2: Well, I think you're gonna have to give up that 758 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: second pick. I think, if I'm trading you, Yannis, I 759 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: want your two first round picks. I'll take Steph on 760 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 2: Counsel and then might have to sprinkle in another couple 761 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: of draft picks or draft next year or other players. 762 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 2: You've got to make it work financially too. But I 763 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 2: don't think you're keeping the second pick overall if that's 764 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: you know, Dylan Harper or Ace Bailey. And I'm not 765 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: even sold on either one of them. And I watched 766 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: them play. I watched Rutgers play you know actual games. 767 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 2: I think I saw three games, and while they have 768 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: unbelievable talent, they just weren't great players. They would have 769 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: these highlight moments and you go, Wow. You know Ron 770 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: Harper's son, he can penetrate, pass, Wow, East Bailey, he 771 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: can jump. I think his name is Arius, like a 772 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 2: I r IOUs Arius, and but they call him Ace Bailey. 773 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: I also have a suggestion for Saquon Barkley coming up, 774 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: and this has to do with the cover of Madden, 775 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: and you know, maybe next time we have him on, 776 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: maybe we could workshop this a little bit. But I 777 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: do have a suggestion or him moving forward, and we'll 778 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 2: check in with the Patriots. We'll also talk to Derrick 779 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: Henry as well. So we got a lot coming up 780 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 2: in the final hour of the program on this Tuesday, 781 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: Todd's here, the King of Comedy is here, Seaton's here, 782 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 2: Marvin Paulie. It's my twenty third anniversary since meeting Todd 783 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 2: and working together. 784 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 3: Happy anniversary, Thank you, Todd.