1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky, Rhett back with you. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 3: It's great to be back with everybody. Good to see 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: everybody again. We've got a ton of ground to cover today. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: Excited to get this thing started. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: I feel like we devote so much attention to the 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball and focusing on those guys 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: and quarterbacks, receivers and running backs. I think it's good 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: when we start an episode we focus on the other 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: side of the ball. We're looking right here at the 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: highest QB pressure percentages in the league. You see Micah 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: Parson's up there at the very top with Miles Garrett 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 3: not a surprise, but third and fourth on the list. 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: A couple of rookies Jalen Carter from the Eagles as 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: an interior rusher and Byron Young, the rookie at a 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: Tennessee to edge rusher for the Rams. Both those guys 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: over twenty percent on the pressure percentage, which is impressive. 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: And then you see DeMarcus Lawrence, a familiar name, and 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: then Chase Young. Good to see him back in the 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: mix after the injuries. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: He's endured to be out there and be productive at 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: almost nineteen percent on his pressure percentage. Why don't we 24 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: start there, buck with Chase Young. We'll get to the 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: two rookies in a second. But when you look at 26 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: at Chase Young, it kind of a reminder a little 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: bit of what he can be when he's healthy, and 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: it's great to see and it is. 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: Great to see, and it's great to see for him 30 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: in a year where he's kind of fighting for a 31 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: contract and so for him to bounce back and to 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: kind of display some of the things that really make 33 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 4: us made us fall in love with him when he 34 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 4: came out. 35 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: This guy is a freakish athlete. 36 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: He has outstanding hasplowson his strength and power, and now 37 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: he's beginning to put it together. It was always a 38 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: question out of the talent, but of the motivation and 39 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: could he do it consistently. 40 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 5: We're seeing that this year. 41 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: That's why Commander's fans and Commander's front office would be 42 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 4: excited about what he's putting on the sweat. 43 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 6: He was like the guy right when we were talking 44 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 6: about you know, the commanders and all the firepower that 45 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 6: they had up front, Like he was you know that 46 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 6: rookie year was special, and then obviously the last couple 47 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 6: of has been deal with injury, and then you know, 48 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 6: now you get him back up there with Montese Sweat 49 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 6: and with Jonathan Allen and Dron Payne, and it's like, 50 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 6: all right, this is how we actually drew it up 51 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 6: right when we're talking about roster construction and putting big 52 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 6: time pieces and valuable resources up on the front, and 53 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 6: I feel like he is kind of. 54 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 7: The lynchpin of that thing. 55 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 6: And while he hasn't had as much production as the 56 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 6: other guys the last couple of weeks, man, when he's rolling, 57 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 6: that's a different level of production that that group can 58 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 6: give you a ditch. 59 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I went back and just watching what he's done 60 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: this year, and you see, you know, the effort first 61 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: ball has been great. That classic shake bowl move that 62 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: he has where he gives you a little bit of 63 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: a stutter and puts his hands inside your chest and just. 64 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: Walk you right back. 65 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: Then he beat Melatta on a high side rush last 66 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: week as well. So I mean, look, he's always been skilled. 67 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: You know, you go back to his rookie year seven 68 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: and a half sacks and was like, okay, the trend 69 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: line for this guy. He's just gonna take off as 70 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: someone who was the top player in his draft class just. 71 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: Hasn't been out there. You get a chance to see 72 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: him out there and see what he can do. Good 73 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: for him. 74 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: He's gonna end up getting paid somewhere. If it's not Washington, 75 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: it'll be somewhere else, all Right, Carter talk about rookies 76 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: being up there amongst the leaders. I think probably most 77 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: impressive with him as an interior rusher. He's not playing, 78 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: you know, a ton of snaps. He doesn't have to 79 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: buck just because the depth that they have there. But 80 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: when you go back and watch him the first week 81 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: against the New England Patriots where he was getting singled 82 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: up and wreckon shop, and now you watch just about 83 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: every rep he's had since then, they're sliding to him. 84 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: They're leaving Fletcher Cox one on one and they're sliding 85 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: to Jalen Carter, the rookie. That's what type the type 86 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: of reputation he's already earned himself. 87 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: But are we really surprised based on the talent that 88 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: he's played at Georgia. You know, a lot of the 89 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: evaluation was clouded by some of the off the field, 90 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: things that made us talk about his character, his football character. 91 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: In those things, it was never about the talent. 92 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: When you look at the talent that he's putting on 93 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: displayed right now for the Philadelphia Eagles, you can see 94 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: why people were talking about him as the best prospect 95 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: in the class. He's dominant, he has great instincts and awareness, 96 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: and when he revs it up men, he completely takes 97 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: over the game for a rookie four games in to 98 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: get the kind of command, the atension that he's getting 99 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: at the point of attack speaks whyumes for how offensive 100 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: coordinators around the league are already viewing him as a 101 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: potential superstar at the position. 102 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, what's crazy is it kind of almost makes you 103 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 6: forget about the fact that they drafted a defensive tackle 104 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 6: in the top fifteen last year, and you know, Jordan 105 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 6: Davis and his buddy his team at Georgia, right, I mean, 106 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 6: like we're all we're talking about jay Len Carter. I 107 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 6: mean we're barely spoken a word about Jordan Davis. And 108 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 6: part of that is because look that the deepest defensive 109 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 6: line in the league, right, I think what the Jets 110 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 6: probably the only team that comes close in terms of 111 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 6: pieces that they can rotate through, both in the interior and. 112 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 7: On the edge. 113 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 6: And you know, I think sometimes for rookies it might 114 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 6: be a little bit difficult when you're only playing, you know, 115 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 6: eighteen to twenty snaps or twenty two snaps a game 116 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: to kind of find your footing and make that impact. 117 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 6: But he was doing in the preseason with two snaps. 118 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 6: Remember that, he was like he played like two I 119 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 6: think literally two snaps in his first game, and you're like, whoa, 120 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 6: this dude is going nuts, Like he just he fits 121 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 6: that mold of how they want to rotate through. He 122 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 6: could stay fresh, he could stay focused and poised in 123 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 6: there and absolutely one hundred percent full tilt. 124 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of a lot of attention has gone 125 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: to Jalen Carter for what he's done this year, and 126 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: obviously the production when he's been out there speaks for itself. 127 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: And I also think other guys rookies that have got attention. 128 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: Pooka Nikou will probably be up there with what he's 129 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: done leading the perceptions, but his teammate maybe a little 130 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: under the radar. We saw him on that list there 131 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: in Byron Young and rat this as somebody in six 132 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: zho two three so six two and a half two 133 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: hundred fifty pounds, ran four to four three coming out, 134 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: had ten sacks his last year at Tennessee big time. 135 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: Get off a little bit tight, struggled a little bit 136 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: against the run. But man, he went to the Rams. 137 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: They have cut him loose. And you see by the 138 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: pressure percentage there at twenty point six, fourth best in 139 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: the NFL. 140 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: He is off to a heck of a start. 141 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 5: Man. 142 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 6: Oh man, it's fun to watch too. And started read 143 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 6: at the beginning of the season for the Rams. And 144 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 6: you know you talk about the two undor and fifty pounds, 145 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 6: you know, a little bit lighter right coming off the edge, 146 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 6: but man, he can generate some power with that speed 147 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 6: that you talked about with the forty yard dash. He 148 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 6: rushes the passer like as the crow flies right, like 149 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 6: straightest line to the quarterback. 150 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 7: Even coming from the edge. 151 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 6: He is not going to, you know, have a super 152 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 6: deep bend on his rush that's going to take him 153 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 6: out of a play. Like he man, gets skinny and narrow, 154 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 6: it is straight to the quarterback. He absolutely, you know, 155 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 6: showed like he was a vet. He felt like he 156 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 6: was a vet edge rusher. Against Orlando Brown and the 157 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 6: Cincinnati Bengals in that Monday night game a couple of 158 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 6: weeks ago that Rams ended up losing, but takes a 159 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 6: real efficient path to the quarterback. I mean, like his 160 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 6: first pressure against the Seahawks in that first game for 161 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 6: the Rams. I mean, he goes through, absolutely eliminates a 162 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: chip and then puts the left tackle cross on his 163 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 6: back and like immediately you're like, okay, yeah, Byron Young, 164 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 6: we might have to we might have to know the 165 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 6: name and understand that there is another rookie with his 166 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 6: same exact name. But this is the Tennessee violin here 167 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 6: edge rusher, not the Alabama Crimson tie d lineman. But 168 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 6: Byron Young is going to be a good player here 169 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 6: for the La Rams. 170 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: Yes, it was a good player. And you go back 171 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: and look at his evaluation. You talked about the first step, 172 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 4: quickness and bursts. He displayed it time and time again 173 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: for the volunteers. It's another lesson when we look at 174 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: these guys as we're getting ready for path to the 175 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: draft and those things. Guys who have a certain skill 176 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: set continue to display those skills when they get to 177 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: the National Football League. Even though he wasn't necessarily the 178 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 4: ideal height to be a guy that's a front end rusher. 179 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: He did it a ton in the SEC and we 180 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 4: have to give those guys credit. We talked about Derek 181 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: Hall before, we talked about some of the other rickey 182 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: rushers that have come in and had immediate success. Man, 183 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: it's the same guys that do it on tape. Sometimes 184 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: we have to dismiss some of the numbers and just 185 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: believe what our eyes tell us when we watch these 186 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: guys sack the quarterback at the collegiate level. 187 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers translate, Buck. We've been saying it. 188 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: We've been saying it for years and years and years 189 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: and years, and this is another example of that being 190 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 3: the case. 191 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 5: No. 192 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: Look, when it comes to PF, it can be a 193 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: little bit controversial in scouting circles in terms of you know, 194 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: do you buy it, you're not buy it. I always 195 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: look at it as a guide, you know, I don't 196 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: take this as the gospel. But when you look at 197 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: the top rookie grades according to PFF, you see a 198 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: Chan up there, Carter up there, Poopa Nakua. Marvin Mims 199 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: Juniors had a great year so far for the Broncos. 200 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: Looks like he could be a real steal for them. 201 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: Skearansky the guard for the Tennessee Titans. The first round 202 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: pick Christian Zales unfortunately just got hurt for the Patriots. 203 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: I like using the grades though, as a guide to say, Okay, 204 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: here's a clump of guys that they have high grades on. 205 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: I want to watch and study those particular players, and 206 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: I can restack them however I want. But Buck, I 207 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: still think there's value in getting some names up in 208 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: the mix. And it shouldn't be a surprise who was 209 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: on that leader board. 210 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 4: No, I mean it shouldn't be a surprise because we 211 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: talk about these guys all the time, about the big 212 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: established past versus the guys that do it week after 213 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: week after week, and it's just one of those things 214 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: that you want to look at. 215 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 5: I love proven production. 216 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 4: I like guys that have given those opportunities to do 217 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: it over over again. In these vest that we're talking 218 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: about over and over, they do it again and again 219 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: and again. 220 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see there on the screen there. I've 221 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: got a new episode coming up, a DJ Rookie Report 222 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: that's gonna be on NFL Plus. We're go through this 223 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: whole rookie classes. We're kind of through the quarter pole 224 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: here and break them down by position, and I'll go 225 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: a little bit of a deep dive there. One of 226 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: the discussions I'm going to have on there is about 227 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: the value of certain positions at certain points in the draft. 228 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: How about the second round with interior offensive lineman when 229 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: you look at it this year, Steve Avila, who's been 230 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: great for the Rams, talking about Byron Young, another rookie 231 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: for them, Steve Avila playing left guard. He was a 232 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: thirty sixth pick. We saw Joe Tipman the other night 233 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: with the Jets. He stepped into the starting lineup. He 234 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: was the forty third pick. Osiris Torrance was the fifty 235 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: ninth pick just before him, John Michael Schmidtz has been 236 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 3: starting as well. He was the fifty seventh pick there 237 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: for the Giants, and Torrance doing his work with the 238 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. But there's four guys there between pick thirty 239 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: six and fifty nine that are plugging play in tier guys. 240 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: I think that's a great spot to find those types 241 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: of players. 242 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 7: I think we talk about that a lot, you know, 243 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 7: with those guys, because. 244 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 6: All right is the value you know, does it really 245 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 6: match up in the first round for a player who 246 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 6: you know, I think we talked about John Michael Schmidt's 247 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 6: you know a lot of times it's like this, this 248 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 6: guy might be the best center in the class. 249 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 7: He's probably a ten year starter somewhere. 250 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 6: Well, he ends up falling the second round because maybe 251 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 6: the interior offensive lineman value doesn't feel like it matches 252 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 6: up there when you got you know, when you got 253 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 6: teams trying to get those edge rushers, right, got teams 254 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 6: trying to get the corners, Trent teams trying to get 255 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 6: the tackles, and so it feels like that second round 256 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 6: is a great spot for some of those guys. But yeah, 257 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 6: you nailed a couple of them there. A Villa has 258 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 6: been terrific. I was talking to Baldy about him this morning. 259 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 6: Matthew Bergeron is playing a bunch of the Atlanta Falcons 260 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 6: right now. About what Towey Polotu is doing for the 261 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 6: Chargers out of the second round. So a lot of 262 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 6: those guys on both sides of the ball and the 263 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 6: line of scrimmage have really turned up and have kind 264 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 6: of made you take notice a little bit there. 265 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 7: Isaiah Fosky playing for the Saints too. 266 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 6: I mean like there's there's Jewe Scruggs was going to 267 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 6: be a starting center for the Texans for he got hurt. 268 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 6: So there's another one there that just hadn't quite got 269 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 6: off the ground yet. It's been a pretty good second round. 270 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, good second round. 271 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: And one of the things everyone focused so much on 272 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: the first round when we get to draft weekend, everybody 273 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: is talking about the first thirty two picks that come 274 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: off the board. We're really team builders, a great team 275 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: builders make sure that they make their mark on days 276 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: one and two because those first three rounds are where 277 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: you should find starters and future starters. In the round 278 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: two it is the sweet spot because that's where you 279 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: find guys at for whatever reason, there was something just 280 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: a little off that didn't make them a first round 281 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 4: or maybe there was a cater thing or medical thing 282 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: that they fall out. But those guys have tremendous value 283 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: and we're seeing the second round is a sweet spot 284 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: for a lot of guys that come into the league, 285 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: start right away and kind of make an immediate impression 286 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 4: for their new team. 287 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to stir up a hornet's nest 288 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: on this one guys. But oh boy, look, b Jon 289 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: Robinson's been great. He's been great, and we all loved him, 290 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: and I was excited for him to be up there. 291 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: He's clearly I think he's proven he's worthy of where 292 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: he was selected. But we're in a draft now where 293 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: you look at Charbonnay, who we've seen pop. I saw 294 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: him pop the other night. Look nice on the Monday 295 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: night game. You've got Ty J Spears, who's when he's 296 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: out in the field. He's been getting more and more opportunities. 297 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: Has look good for the Tennessee Titans. Eight Chan's been 298 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: putting up monster numbers. I mean, Tank Bixby's kind of 299 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: getting in the mix a little bit. We've seen a 300 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: little of Roshan Johnson. I mean Deuce Vaughan has found 301 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: a role. I mean Buck. I don't want to I 302 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 3: don't want to get us in trouble here. This to 303 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 3: do discussion, But this is doing to be we gon 304 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: other year. 305 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 7: It's another zero running backs, you know, line them throughout 306 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 7: the draft. 307 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: You know DJ. 308 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 7: This is the type of hold on Bucky. 309 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 6: This is the type of elitism from a scout that's 310 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 6: gonna cause you to overlook a guy like Dennis Gardak 311 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 6: back in twenty eighteen on a Division two sous falls 312 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 6: right now starred for the Arizona Cardinals, and you don't 313 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 6: even let me talk about him at the top of 314 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 6: the show. And if you're watching the video show, uh 315 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 6: so you know, like I just we need to get 316 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: rid of this elitism and scouting. 317 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 7: Okay, I'm tired of them. 318 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's something to it, and we are 319 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: seeing it. I mean, even though I've heard you guys 320 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 4: come on me because I felt like christ McCaffrey was 321 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: having too big of a workload. Even though you take 322 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: him high. I used to take them high and use 323 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: them like you don't want to keep them in bubble wrap. 324 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: But every day we want to take these guys outside 325 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: of the first round and use them and let them 326 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: get carries. 327 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 5: I don't know, I will see this. 328 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: We are finding running backs at all different levels of 329 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: the draft, and depended upon how your team deploys. Really 330 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: depending on the level of the quarterback that you have, 331 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: depends on where you can take a running back, because 332 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: if you have a great quarterback, it may I met 333 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: it where you take the running back because the quarterback 334 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 4: is going to drive the end. 335 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, that's true. 336 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: Well again, I think we got out of that without 337 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: getting in too much trouble. By the way, their shadow 338 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: for HTT looks like Bart Simpson behind him. By the way, 339 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: can we get them some type of a backdrop there? 340 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean, goodness, gracious, what are we deal what are 341 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: we dealing. 342 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: With over. 343 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 5: Next week? 344 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: Broke life? I need to see a newspaper. 345 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: I need to see a newspaper to let us know 346 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 3: that you're still with us. This isn't a prerecorded video. 347 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna take a quick break. Plenty more 348 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: to come on. 349 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: Move the sticks right after this. 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Sign up today. 361 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: All right, coming up on Thursday night, We've got a 362 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: matchup that I'm not gonna lie to you. 363 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: On paper, probably. 364 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: Doesn't look very enticing, but there's always some storylines and 365 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: some nuggets we can get excited about, and that is 366 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: the Bears and the Commander's Commanders playing good football. By 367 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: the way, tough overtime lost against Eagles last week, but 368 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: they've been more than competitive. The Bear thought they might 369 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: get their first win last week, comfortably out ahead of 370 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson and the Denver Broncos. They collapse, It falls apart. 371 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: They're owed four buck right now, they'd have the first 372 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: and second picks in the draft. I guess that's a positive, right, 373 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: But is there anything positive you can take from what 374 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: you've seen on the field that could get them maybe 375 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: a win here on Thursday night? 376 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm gonna go positive. 377 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: Positive was Justin Fields had maybe his best passing performance 378 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: that we've seen in his career. 379 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 5: Last week until he had a couple turnovers. That sport 380 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: did the. 381 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: Performance, but Justin Fields pushed the ball down the field more, 382 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: had more success finding Dj Moore and doing some of 383 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: those things. To me, the mystery that is Justin Fields 384 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: is are we so off on him? 385 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 7: Where we were. 386 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: Wild by the athleticism to tell it in those things 387 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: that look, the passing skills cannot be wrecked by it 388 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: can't be fixed, and he just would never be a 389 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: front line starter. 390 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 5: Or is this another case of a player being put in. 391 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: A bad situation, bad as system without a coaching staff 392 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: they had a clear plan for out of you them 393 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: use them. I don't know, but I know the clock 394 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: is doing it because he has over thirty stars in 395 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: his career and the results of certainly not being good 396 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: from an individual standpoint or from a team standpoint for 397 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: Fields and the Bears. 398 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, it's tough, right because you know, as you mentioned, 399 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 6: man played a felt like a terrific three quarters of 400 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 6: football against the Broncos and then the. 401 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 7: Bears just fell apart in the fourth quarter. There. 402 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 6: Look, I think you know some positives because look, I'm 403 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 6: gonna be on the I'm gonna be on game to 404 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 6: kickoff for this thing on NFL Network on Thursday nights. 405 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 6: So I'm selling, I'm fishing, I'm getting some of these. 406 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 6: Look for the for the Bears, they got DJ Moore involved, 407 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 6: they got Cole Comet involved fairly consistently in that game, 408 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 6: couple of touchdown catches, Khalil Herbert has played pretty well 409 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 6: from the running back spot. It's like there's three targets 410 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 6: there for Justin fields. They can figure out a way 411 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 6: to kind of create that game plan centered around those guys. 412 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 6: You know, maybe they can find a way, but they 413 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 6: got to be able to protect Justin field to this game. 414 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 6: That offensive line against Denver didn't have a great day 415 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 6: for Chicago. I don't know if there are a bunch 416 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 6: of great days in their future until they can continue 417 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 6: to fortify that thing. But they got to find a 418 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 6: way to give Justin Feels a little bit of time 419 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 6: to use some of those playmakers that he does have 420 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 6: on the commander side of things. 421 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 7: Man, I just want to watch Sam Howe. 422 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 6: He bounced back from a clunkber against the Bills in 423 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 6: Week three with those foreign. 424 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 7: Interceptions, and this dude is an absolute gamer. 425 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 6: Love the way he moves around in the pocket, find 426 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 6: some space to make it open, throw and he can 427 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 6: absolutely sling it. I mean the velocity that comes out 428 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 6: of his hand with some of those balls and the 429 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 6: accuracy that he showed, and then the athleticism to get 430 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 6: out of trouble and he gets some extra yards and 431 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 6: make plays. I'm excited to watch Sam Howe get after 432 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 6: this Bears defense on Thursday night. 433 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna give you some positive news for the 434 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: Bears here real quick, Sam Howell, the quarterback we're raving 435 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: about right now, has taken twenty four sacks, which is 436 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: the most machine. So you've got to be excited about 437 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: that if you're the Chicago Bears, until you realize that 438 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: the Bears defense has two sacks this year two one 439 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: two two sacks. They are dead last in the NFL 440 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: in terms of their ability to get home to the quarterback. 441 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: That is embarrassingly bad. And then you look on the 442 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 3: other side of fields, it has been sacked seventeen times, 443 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: so that's the third most for behind Howel. So they 444 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: don't Neither one of these teams can protect the quarterback. 445 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 3: The only difference is Washington has thirteen sacks. Defensively, they 446 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: can actually get after a bad offensive lend where I 447 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: don't think the Bears are going to be able to 448 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: do that. So it looks like this is a matchup 449 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: that favors Washington in a game that every pass rusher 450 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: should be excited about playing in. All Right, Sunday Morning 451 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: Football is back on NFL Network and it's Bigger than ever. 452 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: Live from Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium in London, Trevor Lawrence and 453 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: Bucky's Jags take on Josh Allen and the Bills. Rise, 454 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: Shine and watch a full day of football Sunday, October 455 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: eighth at nine thirty am Eastern only on NFL Network 456 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: and also streaming on NFL Plus Buck. 457 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: You're gonna be out there for that one, going back 458 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: to London. 459 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: You've been doing the zigzag thing here, back and forth 460 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: in the States, one in back to back weeks. Here 461 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: you are the road Warrior and somebody who I guarantee 462 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: has a lot of Marriott points. 463 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: But this is an. 464 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: Opportunity for the Jags see if they can get another 465 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: one here. But they're going up against maybe the hottest 466 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: team in the league right now in Buffalo. 467 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, hotest seem in the league and the team that 468 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: many dismissed after they lost that first game to the 469 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: New York Jets. But what you've seen from the Buffalo 470 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: Bills on both sides of the ball, they've kind of 471 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: figured out. Josh Allen has found a way to kind 472 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: of do more with less, meaning he's having the production 473 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: or whatever, but we're not seeing him kind of make 474 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 4: these crazy plays that he had to make in previous years. 475 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: He gives you enough to tease you that, look, I'm 476 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: still the elite athlete. I can run and make plays. 477 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 4: But it's been a lot of step On Diggs and 478 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: really a lot of James Cook emerging as a stabilizing 479 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 4: force to their run game. 480 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills office. 481 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: Has been great and Sean McDermott has this defense playing 482 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 4: lights out. After that first week, this defense has been 483 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: keeping them ball in front, stuffing the run, playing great. 484 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 5: This team is hot. It's a tough one for the Jacks. 485 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, to me, the key and this one 486 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: is going to be Trevor. You cannot lock on. If 487 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: you lock on with this defense, they have so many 488 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: eyes on the quarterback with the way they play their 489 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: zone stuff, They're gonna take you. If you take them 490 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: right to the football, they're going to go take it away. 491 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: So RTT when I look at this ballgame, Trevor's got 492 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: to be disciplined. 493 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: To me, it's being patient. 494 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: They like to get their linebackers out of there, take 495 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: the check down, don't try and you know, be too 496 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: big in this moment against this Buffalo Bills defense. 497 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: They're going to require patients and that's going to be 498 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: key if the Jags. 499 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: Are going to get a win against a really, really 500 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: hot Buffalo team right now. 501 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think it's kind of cool. 502 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 6: I think it's kind of useful and perhaps valuable for 503 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 6: the Jags to be in this spot right now where 504 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 6: they're the first team to play back to back games 505 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 6: in London since we started going and playing the International Series, Bucky. 506 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 7: So I'd love to get your perspective. 507 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 6: Having spent time around this club and like and how 508 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 6: they're viewing this opportunity to kind of get away from 509 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 6: the struggles that they have had with the high expectation 510 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 6: coming into this season as a team who you know, 511 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 6: want a playoff game last year and was rocket and rolling, 512 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 6: you know, in first year under Doug Peterson, and you know, 513 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 6: it's been a little stagnant at times outside of Week one, right, 514 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 6: So do they view this as a real opportunity to 515 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 6: kind of bring this team together and if they look 516 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 6: back on on this moment they're able to get past 517 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 6: the Bills and go to and oh in London, you 518 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 6: look back as this is a real pivotal piece of 519 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 6: the season for this Jaguars team. 520 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how if you're wing it iView in, it 521 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: almost like a mini training camp. I want to talk 522 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: to some players after the game against the Falcons, they 523 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: talked about this is very similar to when they went 524 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: to Detroit for joint practices. Go up there, take care 525 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 4: of business. It's a business trip. There's not a lot 526 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: of fund we're not vacationing. Let's go to work. And 527 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: it coincides also with the fact that the coaching staff 528 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: is trying to figure out the identity of the team. 529 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: They're trying to figure out where the ball should go to. 530 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 4: If you looked at the game against Atlanta, they made 531 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 4: a concerted effort to make sure Evan Ingram and Christian 532 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: Kirk got off early, and then Calvin Ridley was the 533 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: complimentary piece. It wasn't necessarily like that the first three weeks. 534 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 4: It was more Calvin as a feature guy and those 535 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 4: guys as a compliment. They flipped it a little bit. 536 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: The offense seemingly had more balanced. It worked, and Travis 537 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 4: Ittien is like he can't take big more so Travis, 538 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: he is beginning to get the carries where they're treating 539 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: like a bailcout back and as they're able to run 540 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 4: the football, it opens up thing for Trevor Lawrence on 541 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 4: boo leaves and play action. This is a big week. 542 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 4: They feel like they got better last week. But man, 543 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: if they're able to go to London they come away 544 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: two and zero, it really is a big feather in 545 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: Nick cap Buck. 546 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: I'm always in intrigued some times by the play caller 547 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: and with Doug Peterson there, with Jacksonville going up against Buffalo. 548 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: Buffalo they lead the league in sacks, they lead the 549 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: league in interceptions, so they take the football away. But 550 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: as we've seen in some of the discussion that's taking 551 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: place over the last couple of weeks about Zach Wilson 552 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: is man, you can't take a quarterback stinger away either. 553 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: You know, you've got to. 554 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: Still be in attack mode. Is what in your experience 555 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 3: being around Doug, what is his message to Trevor. I 556 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 3: think back to the playoff game last year against the Chargers, 557 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: all those picks early in the game, but they kept firing. 558 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 3: They come back and they win that ballgame against a 559 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: team like Buffalo where you know they can take it away, 560 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: they know they can get after you. How do you 561 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: see him approaching this with Trevor. 562 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 4: You know, Doug is really good with the quarterbacks, and 563 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: it will kind of tell him I want you to 564 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: be aggressive, but I want you to make good decisions 565 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 4: so you can kind of pushed it the envelope a 566 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: little bit like try and take some of those stories, 567 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: but you don't want to do it all the time. 568 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: You've got to understand time, score situation. When is the 569 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 4: time for me to maybe kind of try to fit 570 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: the ball into a a small space and win. Is 571 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: a the defense one. Let's make sure we walk away 572 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: with points. Trevor has to get better in the red 573 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: zone because the great players in the red zone find 574 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: a way to put up sevens, not threes. That's the 575 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: one area of emphasis. Can Trevor Lawrence find a way 576 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 4: to put the ball into paint when they get inside 577 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: the twin. 578 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 3: Well, it's gonna be a great game looking forward to that. 579 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: See if the Jags can keep it rolling, it's going 580 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: to be a tall order though the way Josh Allen 581 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills are playing as a complete ball club. 582 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 7: All right. 583 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: That is gonna wrap it up for today. I appreciate 584 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: you guys hanging with us. We've covered a lot of ground, 585 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: and keep in mind we've got plenty more coming your 586 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: way the rest of the week. Five episodes a week 587 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: now right here on Move the Six. So we appreciate 588 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: you and we'll see you here tomorrow. Come on, come 589 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: on back and join us right here on Move the Six.