WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Neal Brennan Talks New Comedy Special, Plant Based Therapy, Black Comedy Beefs + More

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<v Speaker 1>Wake that answer up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Jessa, Larry Isshelaman

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<v Speaker 2>the guy we ought to Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Brennan. Welcome back. Yeah, gonna be here.

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<v Speaker 3>It was back with another special called crazy Good.

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<v Speaker 1>Neil is one of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Last of the comedians who actually make special special.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for Searla Man, thank you for noticing, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for dissing most of my peers, both at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. Yeah, why not get your man, You

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<v Speaker 1>can do both hit it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel less pressure of putting this one out

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<v Speaker 3>versus the others?

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Blocks three mics, this one is not If

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<v Speaker 1>you thought the other ones were on some emo bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you. This one has no emo ness to

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<v Speaker 1>it at all. It's just like fifty three minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>like this is me, like sprinting. I like them. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I do too, But there are people that are like, nah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my man was a little too little, too incher. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody else, you know, somebody said that to me about

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Burr recently. They was like, Bill might be doing

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<v Speaker 3>a little too much.

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<v Speaker 1>There, you know. Well, I watched him on here and

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny to see him be like that because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so not what he's been like. But I but

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<v Speaker 1>I Bill was sort of weirdly the inspiration for three

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<v Speaker 1>mics in a weird way because he had done a

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<v Speaker 1>thing called The Moth and he talked about emotional stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I just but I just did two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is like I feel better, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel depressed anymore. So I didn't. I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to force it. A dude, I did the show, I

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<v Speaker 1>did crazy good in DC, and a dude DM me

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<v Speaker 1>afterward and was like, I kept waiting for you to

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<v Speaker 1>show up because he was basically saying like, why weren't

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<v Speaker 1>you sad? So I have an announcement at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the show like, Hey, I'm not sad, so just

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy yourself. Let me let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 3>What got you out of that sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you've been up here several times? Yeah, you had

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<v Speaker 2>a total different light, different space. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>Neil Brendan's not sad today, He's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not down, He's not Neil Brennan, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I said Neil nick no, I said, so what got

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<v Speaker 2>you into this? What got you into this new space?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Well I call it plant medicine. The cops call

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<v Speaker 1>them drugs, Okay. Uh. Honestly, the thing I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>before ayahuasca. Uh, this thing called d M T, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recommend, but it was it kind of broke

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<v Speaker 1>my brain and then it re congealed into something better.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this past year M d M A has

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<v Speaker 1>been really good for if you do M d M

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<v Speaker 1>A in a non party space, it can be Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it can, it can. In my ex as, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a god connection that ecstasy.

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<v Speaker 3>So what made you think you needed that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? What got you to the point where let me

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<v Speaker 1>try ihascle because I because I tried zoloft, I tried,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried everything, and uh and it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>working and this was it was just it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a hail Mary, like let's see and uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>the funny thing is people can tell like when you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>Neil's not that yeah, Like I'm just kind of different.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing orange. I mean, come on, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>like energetically I'm different and it's due to that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I've just gotten a lot of like it's the

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<v Speaker 1>corniest shit in the world, but like gratitude, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing You've been on gratitude a long time. Absolutely. I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to buddy of mine about how how I

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<v Speaker 1>I was, like, I was doing like a gratitude checklist.

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<v Speaker 1>I would do it once a day and I would

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<v Speaker 1>just go over the facts of my life because our

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<v Speaker 1>brains kind of write sci fi about like so and

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<v Speaker 1>sows out to get you and she hates you, and

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<v Speaker 1>this and that and but none almost none of it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I would do a gratitude checklist of like

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<v Speaker 1>the facts of my life, like you are a successful comedian,

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<v Speaker 1>you have three Netflix specials, you're you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a commitment to growth, you're curious, you're intelligent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all like at positive attributes. And then a buddy mine

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<v Speaker 1>was and we were talking about Islam, and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>Islam's got it right where they're like they pray five

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<v Speaker 1>times a day, like you kind of need to. And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, why don't you gratitude five times a day?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Okay, So I've been doing that

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't always get to five, but but I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing that for the last four or five months,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been it's been great. So you find something

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<v Speaker 1>to be thankful full five times a day. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just do kind of the same list five times a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea of like the facts of my life, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a health I mean, anyone that can hear this, things

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<v Speaker 1>are going pretty well. Even though if you're having a

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<v Speaker 1>bad day or you're in debt or like, there are

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<v Speaker 1>things that are negative. But like if you live in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a world where you can watch this or

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, things are better for you than they are

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Do things check off on the you own waking up

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<v Speaker 3>mm hmm and making it home safely at night, that

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<v Speaker 3>is a very under appreciation. It's a very unappreciated blessing

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<v Speaker 3>to make it home at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everybody and make it home like either they not

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<v Speaker 1>like they a lot of people die in work. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying, like you be aware, but like people die,

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<v Speaker 1>just stuff that's real basics, right, you forget and if

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<v Speaker 1>you can, I've And it's it's like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so corny, but like it's effective just doing just remembering

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<v Speaker 1>how fortunate you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna ask, you know, will you ever fearful

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<v Speaker 2>of losing their quote unquote touch right when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a speak sometimes rapers, it'd be like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to give up the lean because that's I think that

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<v Speaker 2>helps me write better.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever feel like if I go through what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going through, the aahuasc whatever you trying to get,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, over that that bump, that hump, that you

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<v Speaker 2>would lose your touch.

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<v Speaker 3>As a comedian the genius?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really there. I'm two minds about it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one of them is I don't It's a reflex

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, like I've been known this like thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>so if a news story happens, I can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, and uh, and if I lose it,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a good run, like I've started. Half Bay

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<v Speaker 1>came out twenty seven years ago, so no, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I've been I wrote for all that on Nickelodeon,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've been out here, wrote I was, yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>was fighting the molesters, and uh, like I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this a long ass time. So if it, if it,

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<v Speaker 1>if I, if I lose the touch, I lose the touch.

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<v Speaker 1>But what what I found is the touch is a

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<v Speaker 1>reflex at this point, like I can just I just

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<v Speaker 1>my brain does it out of the touch? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>see any of that, Nickelodeon, thank you for bringing that up.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any of it, trum Mane, But but

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<v Speaker 1>I am against it, so I hope. So now we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the record, and hopefully this will hold up in court.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christy, No, I didn't see that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, all your specials have a great name, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just names. If you've seen through mics, you know

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<v Speaker 3>why it's called through micros. Have you've seen blocks, you

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<v Speaker 3>know why it's called blocks. I'm assuming crazy good is

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<v Speaker 3>just crazy good.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, crazy good is actually okay. So one of the

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the special is making fun of the commodification

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<v Speaker 1>of mental health, like making fun of TikTok psychology and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, and so I'm not against it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like the amount of people making videos about

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<v Speaker 1>trauma and and uh and all the diagnoses of like

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<v Speaker 1>you're being gasolt, just all that stuff is so aggravating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so aggravating, and it's also dishonest because none of

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<v Speaker 1>these people have any idea what they're talking about. They

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<v Speaker 1>just hurt it on another TikTok. So I'm basically toward

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<v Speaker 1>the end. I'm saying, you know you're you do go

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<v Speaker 1>to therapy, take medication, do I do all the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do, But just know that most of the

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<v Speaker 1>great things in life are from psychopaths and drug addicts.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn Jesus. I mean, if I'm wrong, let me know.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it? All right? All the all? The inventor Sigmund

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<v Speaker 1>Freud open coke head. Most of Freud's books should be

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<v Speaker 1>called this maybe the Cocaine talking like there he was

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<v Speaker 1>a coke head. Uh yeah, women are jealous of our dicks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's real. KOCHI shit, Edison did coke. The Wright Brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they were on coke, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean or on math, but they had the metheist idea,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like, hey, do you fucking feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>can fly? The all like the modern inventors elon musk

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<v Speaker 1>o something, yeah, ketamine or he's just out of his mind,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I get into like what about musicians? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>The Rolling Stones had, in order to tour America, had

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<v Speaker 1>to get a doctor to test them for drugs every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and the doctor lasted six weeks before he got hooked

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<v Speaker 1>on cocaine. Yeah, like yeah, hip hop, lean weed weed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you know, there's just like there's and then

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<v Speaker 1>I do comedians, Well, why are you guys all psychopathic

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<v Speaker 1>and drug addicts? I'm like, so far Richard Pryor drug addict,

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<v Speaker 1>George Carlin drug addict, Bill Cosby, choose your own adventure.

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<v Speaker 1>The modern ones like you know, Lenny Bruce a drug addict.

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<v Speaker 1>John Belushi's a drug addict. John mulaney told me to

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<v Speaker 1>remind people he's a drug addict in the bed like

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<v Speaker 1>people were all something. So I'm not saying don't treat it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying, you know, ride it, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying the audience needs to accept that where we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that's been happening is like comedians are

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<v Speaker 1>like moral leaders, you know, like Dave or being a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like why it's they're these serious issues and like

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<v Speaker 1>transgender rights and stuff, and then how bankrupt are others

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<v Speaker 1>segments of society that they finally were like, well what

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<v Speaker 1>do the clowns think? Why are you asking us what

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<v Speaker 1>we think about these This should have never gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>our desk. It's for politicians and clergy and other leaders,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, don't turn to Joe Rogan for vaccine advice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's one though.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say when I watched George Carlin, now he

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<v Speaker 3>was very prophetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yeah, but he also I can name a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of real dark shit, Like he had a bit

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<v Speaker 1>about Blamia rich bitch, won't eat fuck her. Not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the most ethical take he had, you know, he went

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<v Speaker 1>both ways. So again they were they we can be that,

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<v Speaker 1>but the no one moves out to LA to be righteous.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone moves out there would be funny and famous, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the same thing with like is Ellen nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Is Ellen? And I'm like, first of all, Ellen's hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>he and b she's a gay right icon, Like like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't need her to be. She came

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<v Speaker 1>out on television, got kicked off television for being gay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then came back and dominated. But that's not enough

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<v Speaker 1>for people. They're like, yeah, but is she nice? It's

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<v Speaker 1>so childish. It's like being like, is my car also

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<v Speaker 1>a boat? Just appreciate that you have a car? Also

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<v Speaker 1>is Ellen nice? How many nice lesbians have you ever met?

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<v Speaker 1>Your entire life? You know what I mean. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't talk about toxic studs enough. I say it often.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, step up toxics, toxic studs. I wonder what.

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<v Speaker 3>Comedians right becuse they always talk about the trauma that

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<v Speaker 3>comedians have experienced. I wonder if it is the expectation

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<v Speaker 3>of always having to make people laugh, you know a

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<v Speaker 3>psycho that is to get on stage in front of hundreds,

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of people and say I'm going to make them last.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a very hard job. Yes, it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>hard job, and it's a very weird job. Well how

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<v Speaker 1>do you do it on the Daily Show? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you do meaning the difference between this and that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because number one, I don't approach it from a

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<v Speaker 3>comediance perspective because I'm not a comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>And number thank you thank you for saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes I hate when they say that, but the Daily

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<v Speaker 3>Show allows me to go in death on things I

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<v Speaker 3>might just touch here on the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>But are you do you worry about getting laughs?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I rather really I'm also I'm more so concerned

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<v Speaker 3>with just saying something because that's when I look at

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<v Speaker 3>the Daily Show, that's the type of institution.

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<v Speaker 1>That it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm more so concerned about saying something that I know

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<v Speaker 3>people are going to actually being formed by and take

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<v Speaker 3>something away from and be like, oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't want to do that thing where you

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<v Speaker 1>do what might have been a punchline and you hear

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<v Speaker 1>that air can conditioning unit in the background, you're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, oh, okay, I feel like I do that anyway

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<v Speaker 3>naturally though, I feel like, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>use humor to push push things along.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But there it's sort of like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>metered for laugh. So I'm just wondering if you get

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<v Speaker 1>it's not scared but like a little bit like you're yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>scared kids, Yeah, yes, And and do you change your approach?

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<v Speaker 1>You just read what's on the you write it, read

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<v Speaker 1>what's on the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I might be a psychopath or some type

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<v Speaker 3>of sociopaths. You know, you're going to either get the

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<v Speaker 3>laugh or you're going to feel the pain of not right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing is like, I don't you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. It's I have a hugehunk about

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<v Speaker 1>athletes too, because we want, you know, good mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and sports. And I'm like, you know, I want good

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<v Speaker 1>mental health for everybody, but not athletes, Like we need

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<v Speaker 1>our athletes to be psychos? What we I repeat myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need our athletes to be Did you see

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<v Speaker 1>the last dance? Did Michael Jordan seem mentally healthy to

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<v Speaker 1>you in the slightest giant mansion? One chair? Come on, guys, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's out of his mind. So what I'm saying punching

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr? And then I don't care. And then people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, well, he's you know, he's an angry guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a great husband or that. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not married to him. I don't give a shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Be as long as you don't break the law, you

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<v Speaker 1>can be as rotten to the people around you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron said on his podcast the other day, in order

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<v Speaker 1>to be great, you have to hurt your loved ones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what the gambit is. All these people, any

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<v Speaker 1>great athlete is Tom Brady is out of his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you couldn't even be retired. Made it like

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<v Speaker 1>ten days and it was like, I don't know these

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<v Speaker 1>fucking kids, like you can't like you don't know all

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<v Speaker 1>any great is out of their mind. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even get into like OJM I'm talking about just like MJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron's a little something right if he's saying in public,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to hurt your family like Lance Armstrong. The

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<v Speaker 1>joke I did on the show was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even consider Lance Armstrong an athlete. I consider Lance Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal who found a bike. Like that guy is

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal. He think about the worst lie you ever told,

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<v Speaker 1>and then imagine selling bracelets about it. This guy's gone

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<v Speaker 1>tiger Tiger. I mean that dude, he's like he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>tokyo drifting at six thirty in the morning. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>are wired to and by the way, the women are too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the gymnastics girls. We don't give those girls enough credit, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's a crazy thing they're doing, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them are getting paid, a lot of them. We're getting

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<v Speaker 1>sexually abuse, which is insane. And you got to get

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<v Speaker 1>it right, be first time, and you gotta stick the

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<v Speaker 1>landing or you're not. You ain't getting no wheaties. You

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<v Speaker 1>ain't getting the cover of wheaties with the wobbly landing.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta nail it. The figure skating girls, they look

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<v Speaker 1>like they're in trouble, like they've First of all, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like they've never even seen makeup when they it's

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<v Speaker 1>like when they do the thing the routine, and they

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<v Speaker 1>gotta like they've never it's like their first day with

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<v Speaker 1>makeup like Daldaldall, Daldaldall Shock Horror like there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they gotta they and then they gotta they do like

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<v Speaker 1>the hologram thing, uh, and then they gotta finish and

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<v Speaker 1>sit in the booth with their kidnappers at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's people being mentally unwell, are people

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<v Speaker 3>are really using their brains? And what I mean by

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<v Speaker 3>that is if you decide that, you know, you want

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<v Speaker 3>to wake up every day and just do the same

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<v Speaker 3>routine over and over, it doesn't really take much brain function.

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<v Speaker 3>But people that are really having to open up their

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<v Speaker 3>brains and use their minds, it's just using their brain

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<v Speaker 3>to that fullest extent.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that just make you feel drive you crazy? I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make you seehim crazy? I don't I think that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The joke I did in the show is it's like

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing a video when you're making a video

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<v Speaker 1>game character, you have like one hundred points for like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dexterity and speed, and all that stuff. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what God does, and sometimes he just

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<v Speaker 1>gets the calibration wrong, you know what I mean. Like

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<v Speaker 1>with when God was making Woody Allen, they were like

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<v Speaker 1>how many He was like, how many points should we

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<v Speaker 1>give him for comedy and filmmaking. He's like, fuck it,

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<v Speaker 1>give him a hundred. And then they were like, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna make points for not fucking his family,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I think that would be low emotional, Like you, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nice way to put it. Uh, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the charges were. He low emotionally, I can't. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so I just think if you're you're good at

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, it's so weird. If you can rhyme good,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like wrap that's in your brain. Most people's brains

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<v Speaker 1>don't come up with couplets like that. Most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>see the world analytically. Most people don't see let alone analytically,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, funnily so it's just you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be deficient in other areas as long as you're not

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<v Speaker 1>breaking the law.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's the gifts that make you shitty

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<v Speaker 3>or the world that comes with the gifts?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, being a shitty person.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, oh when you I mean, I think you

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<v Speaker 3>have the gift, but it's I think it's the world

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<v Speaker 3>to access the power the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think it. It's hard. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>think of many people that have been made. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a real effort to uh stay centered with

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<v Speaker 1>all the because it just becomes like if everywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>go people say you're in great shape, You're never going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the gym. I mean so if everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh and anything for you, sir or miss or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you're just not. It's people will only be

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<v Speaker 1>as good as they have to be. That's been my experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like if or if you demand it of them,

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<v Speaker 1>then they'll do it. But people will naturally do as

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<v Speaker 1>little as they It's like homework, Like what do I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do to get an I they if you're famous

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<v Speaker 1>and talent, you don't have to do much. You just

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<v Speaker 1>have to do the trick. You just got to be

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<v Speaker 1>funny when the when it's time to be funny, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>With your resume and your talent and all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that you've done, and how funny you are, do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you look you get overlooked a lot by

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<v Speaker 2>the public, like you should be a bigger comedian because,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, the years that you put in this industry,

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<v Speaker 2>from writing, from being on stage, from telling jokes all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, I don't I could say yes or

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<v Speaker 1>no because I kind of feel like there's no one

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<v Speaker 1>who I feel like I deserve there. I should be

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<v Speaker 1>in their place, right, you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 1>when so and I also feel like certain people, the

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<v Speaker 1>people that are like people that do arenas or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they have real, like real performance attributes that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily have, Like they're just really they walk

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<v Speaker 1>on stage and you're like, well, this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell Kevin Hart he is sunshine. He's sunshine, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I direct some of those Chase commercials. You cut to

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<v Speaker 1>that motherfucker in a close up. The sun is shining.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be an in, it can be in a house.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just like, let me tell you something. Royle just

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<v Speaker 1>he's Dave is bugs bunny. He just is bugs bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing you can do about. Chris Rock talks like

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<v Speaker 1>a chainsaw, yang ing it like Ellen sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>flute and and a baby Jerry Seinfeld sounds like a clarinet,

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<v Speaker 1>so so all these people it's I mean, and I

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<v Speaker 1>clearly I've thought about it, but it's I'm again the

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<v Speaker 1>gratitude thing. You've had a great career. Yeah, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a dude, I've had an amazing like, yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 1>an announcement to make everybody uh so No, but I

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing is, like I I could focus on,

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<v Speaker 1>like what why not? I'm what else? What else? What

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<v Speaker 1>would happen? What am I looking for? Like I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be on private jets instead of business class? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm I'm good Like I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying it like I wouldn't accept it

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<v Speaker 1>or I wouldn't accept a promotion in some ways, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I do theaters. I've come on here, people watch it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I yeah, it's I. I appreciate the question, but but

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<v Speaker 1>I and and I was kind of hung up on

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<v Speaker 1>that for a long time, but the last six months

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<v Speaker 1>to a year just been like this is amazing, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm either in the ring or I have ringside seats,

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<v Speaker 1>gotch for for for life. It's not like forever, but

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<v Speaker 1>like so far, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know if people know what Neil used to be called.

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<v Speaker 3>You call him the Black comic whisperer, because you were

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<v Speaker 3>in all like the legendary black comics ears the chapels

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<v Speaker 3>to the rocks, Right. So when you see everything that's

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<v Speaker 3>been going on with black comedians this year, all started

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<v Speaker 3>by the club Cat Williams composition, What.

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<v Speaker 1>Are your thoughts? I always say Cat Williams is the

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<v Speaker 1>most Cat Williams on a podcast or a show is

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<v Speaker 1>like Mike Tyson in the late eighties, where it's the

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<v Speaker 1>most exciting ninety seconds in sports. We're like, God, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>like you cut, he is gonna make some shit happen.

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<v Speaker 1>He is like what they in basketball, what they call

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<v Speaker 1>instant offense, Like put him in, He's getting his shot off.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't. I mean, Kat's hilarious and the and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people e centrically entertain as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest people I've ever been around. Like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the people he dissed, I'm like, I just disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>his his appraisal of them, and and almost like I

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<v Speaker 1>everyone he talked about was really funny. And Cat's great

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<v Speaker 1>and all the people he went after were great and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that's he felt that that's how a hit

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<v Speaker 1>needed to do it. But I'm gonna as I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take my white ass out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do white comedians go to start beefs like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it rogan? Uh? A little bit? Yeah, it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a little it's it's it's caddy, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's more. I think I want to I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say like we keep it private, charlot man,

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<v Speaker 1>but I I can't remember a time where there was

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<v Speaker 1>like shots fired like that, Like I don't it's just

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it didn't seem but I but it was. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking me, did I watch it twice? I did? Kat

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<v Speaker 1>on clubs?

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<v Speaker 3>What are your thoughts on comedians critiquing other comedians about

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<v Speaker 3>two things in particular, One whether or not another comedian

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<v Speaker 3>is funny, and two this I think it's to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of a new phenomenon comedian saying other comedians

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<v Speaker 3>are making offensive jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>The offensive thing is again, why are you asking the

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<v Speaker 1>clowns for It's like, it's like, why are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to clowns for morality? You know, it's like eating a

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Snickers and being like this is very nutritious. No shit,

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a Snickers bar. I don't think. I think if

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a comic criticized another comedian's morality, the critic probably isn't

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>very funny. That'd be my first guess. And and in

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the I just think it's a I think it's bad.

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>If you got something a problem with somebody, I would

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>just say, like, address it directly or leave it, because

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I there's plenty people I think are shitty

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>at comedy. I just don't. I just avoid him, or

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I say, like, you know, you did your thing something vague,

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>but I don't. But I would never criticize somebody in

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>public that I can. I'm sure I have, but I

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>try to avoid it if I can.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, were talking about that this week with girod call

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Michael Dave Chapelle because he said Reside was saying, you know,

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Dave's whole legacy is transgender jokes, and then he said

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Dave the ego maniac. But then literally and I said,

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I said, you should not criticize the comedian about anything

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 3>offensive because it can happen to you in a second.

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>And literally less than twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Hours later, they were on Gerard about what he said

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 3>on his HBO show, and you know being a.

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<v Speaker 1>Role playing slave in Master. Well, yeah, it's like it's

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like me too, and somebody it's like, I don't you

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>can you can get popped. We can all get popped

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>for tons of anything. If you've been doing it long enough,

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like you did a p you don't even We all

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>do so many podcasts you don't ever remember, and then

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>someone can remember. Then you're like, no, but that is

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>my I guess I said that. So that's the thing

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>of like casting the first stone. Like you, it's a

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>dangerous game because everyone it's like mutually assured destruction basically

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>once you start, uh yeah, point fingers, it's it's it's

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna be Spider Man in any any minute. You know.

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 3>Bill Burd spoke about being on Chappelle Show back in

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 3>the day.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Did you know.

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 3>That all of those guys, the Birds, the Rogans, the

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Donnelle role and Charlie Murphy, did you know all of

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 3>these people would end up being what's up for Donnelle

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 3>icons in their own right?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I picked a Donell?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm focusing on the with the bento. Oh was

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that Ashley? That's hilarious? Was he wearing Timberland's all right, great,

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:52.719
<v Speaker 1>he looks like he doesn't look like that, but I

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>like how fatt he is. It really captures his dowiness.

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>The the yeah. I mean, I remember when Bill auditioned

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and Dave was like, thank god he can act because

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that dude's really funny, and Charlie and yeah, dude, I

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>if I all I remember about doing the show is

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>it was very hard, but it was very gratifying to

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>be able to have like small ideas with me and

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Dave and then being able to expand them because the Charlie,

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't have ever told you that, but like me

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and Dave wrote Half Baked, we turned it in right

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety seven, we have a celebratory mushroom night.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>And this is when I wasn't using medicine for healing.

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>It was back when I was just using it the

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>party baby, and we have we do mushrooms. Go to

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>club and I see Dave talking to this guy and

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, is it like Eddie Murphy's brother, like fat brother?

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And then I go over and it's Charlie. I didn't

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>know him. And Charlie's like, I'm on mushrooms and Charlie's

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>like holding court, like me and my brother came out here,

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>did it. It was the only real motherfucker's here and did

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>it Jared Carles and and uh and then and he

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>kept talking about Hollywood and and Charlie was going, there's

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>poison and ice cream. This motherfucker this poison and ice cream.

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>So then me and they would say there's poison and

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>ice cream for like years. Then we were writing that

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>real World sketch and we were like, you know, we

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>should get for this, We should get uh Charlie Murphy

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>to see if he can do it. And then based

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>on doing shrooms with them five years earlier and being like,

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>it's something about that guy. Wow, So I guess there

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and then and then snowballed into and then he tells

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the Rick James story, He tells the Prince story, He

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and and uh, and then it just became it changed

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>all of our lives. So it's you know, it's like

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>taking taking credit for it seems wrong because it's we

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>all got we we all got so much from it

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>from having him on the show. He tells the story

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that my life it's like, you know, before and after

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that sketch ry like I could almost tell you the

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>date it was twenty years ago, like recently. Could a

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>show like that exist ever? Again? I think you could

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>probably figure out a way to do the sketches, but

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>in terms of impact everything, so it was one it

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>was like one funnel, like culture was one funnel, and

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>so you would get it, like go to the funnel

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.479
<v Speaker 1>and get what came out. And now there's there's you know,

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a million funnels on all of our phone so you

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>just go like I subscribed to forty funnels and then

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you But it used to be like do you there

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>was only one place to go or three places to go,

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>so we were we were, we were. I guess Comedy

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Center wasn't like as big before Chappelle's, but but it

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>was always big. And then yeah, so I don't You

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>could probably do the sketches, but I don't think it

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>would have the the thing where everyone's watching it, you know,

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. Do you guys think it depends who

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the talent is? Yea, yeah, yeah, it's it's possible, but

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's unlikely. Like yeah, okay, now Dave always says

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>like people are probably not going to be famous again

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the same way I was duh, No, way, that's been

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it is an interesting thing of like

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>why not and you go cause it's you can't. It's

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the funnel problem. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, Mike Myers, Like I was talking

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to Mike Myers the community and we were talking about

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>showbiz and he was he was talking about shows and

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I as he was talking, I was like, in one decade,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Mike Myers was Wayne from Wayne's World, Shrek, Doctor Evil,

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and Austin Powers. You can run president one guy. Wow,

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>one guy, He's Canadian, one guy in ten years into

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like damn so that and he goes, Yeah, it was

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>a monoculture and now it's like sort of more of

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>a free for all. Eighties ninety celebrity is so powerful.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Literally you can get elected president of the United States

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 3>of America. Yeah, it's a different level of celebrity. Yeah, black,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 3>all white, No, it's just a different level of celebrity.

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is like the last of the like Tom Cruise, yes, Madonna,

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>as I saw you two with the sphere like they're

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>real and they sold seven hundred and fifty thousand tickets

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in two months. It's like that's a a lot of

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>tickets des White.

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>It was real fandom, real talent, and the barrier of

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 3>entry was way more difficult to get in any of

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>these spaces.

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, you had to You had to

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>be talented or you had to be like because I

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think Madonna or Tom Cruise are the most but

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>they're really good at like they don't Madonnas doesn't have

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the best singing voice, hump Cruse probably doesn't have the

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>best acting instrument, but like they figured they were good.

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>They took the job seriously. Like Tom Cruise is like

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>like jumping rope before, you know, like doing shit to

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>make himself last movie, did his own studs. Yeah he's crazy. Yep.

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 3>You was talking about comedians with morals, right, and we

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't go to the clowns.

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for morality, But what about Kevin Hartnell? Degitenerous? What

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>about him?

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 3>Because you said that they and especially you said that

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 3>they have to be they have to be great humanitarians

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 3>and role models.

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is they they're expected to be, but

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not. But it's not a realistic expectation. That's what

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a joke in the special about keV where

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like I had a handyman at my house. It was like,

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>do you know Kevin Harden? I was like, yeah, he

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>goes Is he humble? And I was like, you're a handyman,

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not humble? Like why does Kevin have to be humble?

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>What he was asking me is, hey, Neil, is that

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>five foot three billionaire humble? What do you think? How

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>hum many think Kevin Hard is on a scale from

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Napoleon to Tom Cruise. If you had to guess, why

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>are you looking to Kevin Hart for humility? What he

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>tries to be?

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 3>To your point when you said, when you're talking about.

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Kevin's I would I would like you we all know Kevin.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Kevin's a good dude, but he's not humble, nord should he?

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Why does he have to be humble?

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 3>He's not a different records around your peers, but to

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 3>people he's humble To people, yeah.

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>He's a nice guy. Well, because they can all throw

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>him in the trash. He's tiny. Uh, he has to

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>be humby. He's just for security.

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Because even with keV, keV does things that I think

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 2>other people in this situation wouldn't do. Kevin's still come

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>back and touch places that other comedian.

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Kevin's a great I really mean that when like, Kev's

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a great dude. But like this expectation that celebrities have

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>to be moral, it's just like a fake. It's a

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>just moving the goalpost. I'm not saying I'm not saying

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>they should be able to break laws or any of

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But I'm just saying I think it's a

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 1>fake expectation based on somebody. Because you're doing well, then

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>people go, well, then are you nice? You know what

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like, sometimes are you nice? I'm nice? Sometimes

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a human being. Yeah, It's why there's churches on

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>every corner because we're not nice, you know what I mean,

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Like you just because we need constant reminders of like,

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>don't murder. Look at this, don't murder. And you're like, okay, yeah,

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you're right, I shouldn't murder. But we need constant reminders.

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>And the expectations that they they'll come from clowns is

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 1>a bit like come on, come on, there's other there's

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not it should not be our responsibility. It's

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>a it's a it's a failure of priests, mom's clergy,

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, like and and politicians and because they couldn't

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 1>keep their ticks in their pants. And so now it's like, well,

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, ship, who else we got that? Allen seems

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty you know what I mean? Who else? You know,

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Joe your next man. They're gonna start looking for you

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>from morality. Oh they've been please you think? No, no, no,

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not funny enough.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I I put it out there enough, Like

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>I want to.

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I don't want to.

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't want that. I want to be the bad guy.

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 3>You do want to be the bad guy, not personally,

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 3>but to your point, I want you just to look

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 3>at me as a human being.

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 3>So if you look at me the human being, I'm

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 3>gonna make mistakes. I'm not gonna always get things right.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna always say the right thing. I might

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 3>piss you off because you know, especially with us right

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 3>and Neil is a huge mental health advocate as well.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Anytime you're a.

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 3>Person that is always on a healing journey and you

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 3>talk about your mental health, they want us to do

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 3>everything perfect.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right. I can't say anything yeah too wrong?

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know, aren't you supposed to be a mental

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 3>health guy?

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But like I still like fucking or whatever, like yeah,

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't, yeah, but you're right, it does become I'm

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>worried that people are gonna be like, well, how could

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>you say that athletes don't want good you don't want

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a good mental health because I don't because I'm a person.

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm selfish. I want a good game and that you're

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna have good games when everyone's fucking out of their minds.

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>That's true. It's like, I don't you know what, sports

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>was invented to train the military between wars. So that's yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how in like in in ancient Greece like two

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand years ago, it was between wars that were

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<v Speaker 1>like we need to get the army to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do like to train between and they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the ropes and all that shit, so they would like

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<v Speaker 1>do battles or whatever. So so that's what that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is like an analogous of it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a proxy for war. So it's like Cleveland versus or

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers versus or whoever versus whoever, or or or

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, and you're really you know, at the least

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<v Speaker 1>these people.

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<v Speaker 3>Are our lovers of violence, right, yeah, like, at least

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<v Speaker 3>they're massacres. If you're a football player, boxer, you see,

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<v Speaker 3>at the least you're a massacre.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I bet that they're more sadists than massacre. They

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<v Speaker 1>like whooping ass more than they like in their ass

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<v Speaker 1>whooped massacrets like it in their asshoo.

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<v Speaker 3>But even if you're a running back, you still know

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get hit, so you still have to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like the pain.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you know what I mean? Well, you right, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people they like her, Yeah, they like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like hurt or be hurt. There. It's a lot of aggression.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I would say is like people's need for

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<v Speaker 1>aggression and people's kind of unhealthy need for status is

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest economic driver in world history. Damn, I really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, every great everyone on this

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<v Speaker 1>wall didn't do it for the right reasons. They did

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<v Speaker 1>it because they wanted a come up. They wanted I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sick of being treated like garbage and I'm sick and

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<v Speaker 1>i'm i'm I know, I'm more special than this. So

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<v Speaker 1>so that they went out of the they moved from

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<v Speaker 1>wherever they were to do a thing that would get

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<v Speaker 1>them status and they could like you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>am great, I am. I do deserve exaltation. That's inventors,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I mean, inventors are all there because they got it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to get some pussy. Like it's a long

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<v Speaker 1>term pussy plan. That's kind of true. Not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of women down to the patent office. They don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. They don't need to invent stuff. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>just wait year rounds guys the event stuff get like

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are like three out of ten you invented

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk. You see that WHLD picture and when he

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<v Speaker 1>had bad hair. He's fat though, it's like the guy

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<v Speaker 1>did it for for to get people to get women.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not exactly, but like that's the whole that's

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<v Speaker 1>like the primal urge. That's the when you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook movie.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the whole premise of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, So I'm not even mad at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just don't break laws, gotch But you can be

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<v Speaker 1>broaden your whatever, Just don't break laws.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all Crazy Good is streaming now that.

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<v Speaker 3>We're saying all that to say, yes, watch Neil Brennan

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy out right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you go check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>On Netflix and appreciate that. Neil's podcast to Man the Blocks,

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks everybody, anything else, Neil Nah thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, It's Neil Brennan.

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