Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning.
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Jessa, Larry Isshelaman
Speaker 2: the guy we ought to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,
Speaker 1: Neil Brennan. Welcome back. Yeah, gonna be here.
Speaker 3: It was back with another special called crazy Good.
Speaker 1: Neil is one of the.
Speaker 3: Last of the comedians who actually make special special.
Speaker 1: Thank you for Searla Man, thank you for noticing, and
Speaker 1: thank you for dissing most of my peers, both at
Speaker 1: the same time. Yeah, why not get your man, You
Speaker 1: can do both hit it.
Speaker 3: Do you feel less pressure of putting this one out
Speaker 3: versus the others?
Speaker 1: Like the Blocks three mics, this one is not If
Speaker 1: you thought the other ones were on some emo bullshit,
Speaker 1: I hear you. This one has no emo ness to
Speaker 1: it at all. It's just like fifty three minutes of
Speaker 1: like this is me, like sprinting. I like them. I
Speaker 1: know I do too, But there are people that are like, nah, yeah,
Speaker 1: my man was a little too little, too incher. I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 3: Somebody else, you know, somebody said that to me about
Speaker 3: Bill Burr recently. They was like, Bill might be doing
Speaker 3: a little too much.
Speaker 1: There, you know. Well, I watched him on here and
Speaker 1: it was funny to see him be like that because
Speaker 1: it's so not what he's been like. But I but
Speaker 1: I Bill was sort of weirdly the inspiration for three
Speaker 1: mics in a weird way because he had done a
Speaker 1: thing called The Moth and he talked about emotional stuff.
Speaker 1: So so I just but I just did two of them.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is like I feel better, I
Speaker 1: don't feel depressed anymore. So I didn't. I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to force it. A dude, I did the show, I
Speaker 1: did crazy good in DC, and a dude DM me
Speaker 1: afterward and was like, I kept waiting for you to
Speaker 1: show up because he was basically saying like, why weren't
Speaker 1: you sad? So I have an announcement at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show like, Hey, I'm not sad, so just
Speaker 1: enjoy yourself. Let me let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: What got you out of that sad.
Speaker 2: Because you've been up here several times? Yeah, you had
Speaker 2: a total different light, different space. And I was like,
Speaker 2: Neil Brendan's not sad today, He's.
Speaker 1: Not down, He's not Neil Brennan, sir.
Speaker 2: I said Neil nick no, I said, so what got
Speaker 2: you into this? What got you into this new space?
Speaker 1: Uh? Well I call it plant medicine. The cops call
Speaker 1: them drugs, Okay. Uh. Honestly, the thing I talked about
Speaker 1: before ayahuasca. Uh, this thing called d M T, which
Speaker 1: I don't recommend, but it was it kind of broke
Speaker 1: my brain and then it re congealed into something better.
Speaker 1: And then this past year M d M A has
Speaker 1: been really good for if you do M d M
Speaker 1: A in a non party space, it can be Uh,
Speaker 1: it can, it can. In my ex as, it was
Speaker 1: a god connection that ecstasy.
Speaker 3: So what made you think you needed that?
Speaker 1: Like? What got you to the point where let me
Speaker 1: try ihascle because I because I tried zoloft, I tried,
Speaker 1: I tried everything, and uh and it was kind of
Speaker 1: working and this was it was just it was kind
Speaker 1: of a hail Mary, like let's see and uh. And
Speaker 1: the funny thing is people can tell like when you're like,
Speaker 1: Neil's not that yeah, Like I'm just kind of different.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing orange. I mean, come on, but I am
Speaker 1: like energetically I'm different and it's due to that. And
Speaker 1: then I've just gotten a lot of like it's the
Speaker 1: corniest shit in the world, but like gratitude, you've been
Speaker 1: doing You've been on gratitude a long time. Absolutely. I
Speaker 1: was talking to buddy of mine about how how I
Speaker 1: I was, like, I was doing like a gratitude checklist.
Speaker 1: I would do it once a day and I would
Speaker 1: just go over the facts of my life because our
Speaker 1: brains kind of write sci fi about like so and
Speaker 1: sows out to get you and she hates you, and
Speaker 1: this and that and but none almost none of it's true.
Speaker 1: And so I would do a gratitude checklist of like
Speaker 1: the facts of my life, like you are a successful comedian,
Speaker 1: you have three Netflix specials, you're you know, you have
Speaker 1: a commitment to growth, you're curious, you're intelligent, you know,
Speaker 1: all like at positive attributes. And then a buddy mine
Speaker 1: was and we were talking about Islam, and I go,
Speaker 1: Islam's got it right where they're like they pray five
Speaker 1: times a day, like you kind of need to. And
Speaker 1: he goes, well, why don't you gratitude five times a day?
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, So I've been doing that
Speaker 1: and I don't always get to five, but but I've
Speaker 1: been doing that for the last four or five months,
Speaker 1: and it's been it's been great. So you find something
Speaker 1: to be thankful full five times a day. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just do kind of the same list five times a day.
Speaker 1: Yea of like the facts of my life, Like I'm
Speaker 1: a health I mean, anyone that can hear this, things
Speaker 1: are going pretty well. Even though if you're having a
Speaker 1: bad day or you're in debt or like, there are
Speaker 1: things that are negative. But like if you live in
Speaker 1: a in a world where you can watch this or
Speaker 1: hear this, things are better for you than they are
Speaker 1: for a lot of the world.
Speaker 3: Do things check off on the you own waking up
Speaker 3: mm hmm and making it home safely at night, that
Speaker 3: is a very under appreciation. It's a very unappreciated blessing
Speaker 3: to make it home at night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody and make it home like either they not
Speaker 1: like they a lot of people die in work. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like you be aware, but like people die,
Speaker 1: just stuff that's real basics, right, you forget and if
Speaker 1: you can, I've And it's it's like I said, it's
Speaker 1: so corny, but like it's effective just doing just remembering
Speaker 1: how fortunate you are.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, you know, will you ever fearful
Speaker 2: of losing their quote unquote touch right when you have
Speaker 2: a speak sometimes rapers, it'd be like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to give up the lean because that's I think that
Speaker 2: helps me write better.
Speaker 1: Did you ever feel like if I go through what.
Speaker 2: I'm going through, the aahuasc whatever you trying to get,
Speaker 2: you know, over that that bump, that hump, that you
Speaker 2: would lose your touch.
Speaker 3: As a comedian the genius?
Speaker 1: I don't really there. I'm two minds about it, which
Speaker 1: is one of them is I don't It's a reflex
Speaker 1: at this point, like I've been known this like thirty years,
Speaker 1: so if a news story happens, I can kind of
Speaker 1: like you know, and uh, and if I lose it,
Speaker 1: I had a good run, like I've started. Half Bay
Speaker 1: came out twenty seven years ago, so no, I know,
Speaker 1: so like I've been I wrote for all that on Nickelodeon,
Speaker 1: like I've been out here, wrote I was, yes, I
Speaker 1: was fighting the molesters, and uh, like I've been doing
Speaker 1: this a long ass time. So if it, if it,
Speaker 1: if I, if I lose the touch, I lose the touch.
Speaker 1: But what what I found is the touch is a
Speaker 1: reflex at this point, like I can just I just
Speaker 1: my brain does it out of the touch? Did you
Speaker 1: see any of that, Nickelodeon, thank you for bringing that up.
Speaker 1: I didn't see any of it, trum Mane, But but
Speaker 1: I am against it, so I hope. So now we're
Speaker 1: on the record, and hopefully this will hold up in court.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christy, No, I didn't see that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, all your specials have a great name, but it's
Speaker 3: not just names. If you've seen through mics, you know
Speaker 3: why it's called through micros. Have you've seen blocks, you
Speaker 3: know why it's called blocks. I'm assuming crazy good is
Speaker 3: just crazy good.
Speaker 1: Uh, crazy good is actually okay. So one of the
Speaker 1: parts of the special is making fun of the commodification
Speaker 1: of mental health, like making fun of TikTok psychology and
Speaker 1: all that, and so I'm not against it, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like the amount of people making videos about
Speaker 1: trauma and and uh and all the diagnoses of like
Speaker 1: you're being gasolt, just all that stuff is so aggravating.
Speaker 1: It's so aggravating, and it's also dishonest because none of
Speaker 1: these people have any idea what they're talking about. They
Speaker 1: just hurt it on another TikTok. So I'm basically toward
Speaker 1: the end. I'm saying, you know you're you do go
Speaker 1: to therapy, take medication, do I do all the stuff
Speaker 1: you gotta do, But just know that most of the
Speaker 1: great things in life are from psychopaths and drug addicts.
Speaker 1: Damn Jesus. I mean, if I'm wrong, let me know.
Speaker 1: What's it? All right? All the all? The inventor Sigmund
Speaker 1: Freud open coke head. Most of Freud's books should be
Speaker 1: called this maybe the Cocaine talking like there he was
Speaker 1: a coke head. Uh yeah, women are jealous of our dicks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's real. KOCHI shit, Edison did coke. The Wright Brothers,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they were on coke, but like
Speaker 1: I mean or on math, but they had the metheist idea,
Speaker 1: which is like, hey, do you fucking feel like you
Speaker 1: can fly? The all like the modern inventors elon musk
Speaker 1: o something, yeah, ketamine or he's just out of his mind,
Speaker 1: And then I get into like what about musicians? Okay,
Speaker 1: The Rolling Stones had, in order to tour America, had
Speaker 1: to get a doctor to test them for drugs every day,
Speaker 1: and the doctor lasted six weeks before he got hooked
Speaker 1: on cocaine. Yeah, like yeah, hip hop, lean weed weed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so you know, there's just like there's and then
Speaker 1: I do comedians, Well, why are you guys all psychopathic
Speaker 1: and drug addicts? I'm like, so far Richard Pryor drug addict,
Speaker 1: George Carlin drug addict, Bill Cosby, choose your own adventure.
Speaker 1: The modern ones like you know, Lenny Bruce a drug addict.
Speaker 1: John Belushi's a drug addict. John mulaney told me to
Speaker 1: remind people he's a drug addict in the bed like
Speaker 1: people were all something. So I'm not saying don't treat it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know, ride it, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying the audience needs to accept that where we're not.
Speaker 1: The other thing that's been happening is like comedians are
Speaker 1: like moral leaders, you know, like Dave or being a kid.
Speaker 1: It's like why it's they're these serious issues and like
Speaker 1: transgender rights and stuff, and then how bankrupt are others
Speaker 1: segments of society that they finally were like, well what
Speaker 1: do the clowns think? Why are you asking us what
Speaker 1: we think about these This should have never gotten to
Speaker 1: our desk. It's for politicians and clergy and other leaders,
Speaker 1: but like, don't turn to Joe Rogan for vaccine advice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's one though.
Speaker 3: I would say when I watched George Carlin, now he
Speaker 3: was very prophetic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, but he also I can name a
Speaker 1: bunch of real dark shit, Like he had a bit
Speaker 1: about Blamia rich bitch, won't eat fuck her. Not exactly
Speaker 1: the most ethical take he had, you know, he went
Speaker 1: both ways. So again they were they we can be that,
Speaker 1: but the no one moves out to LA to be righteous.
Speaker 1: Everyone moves out there would be funny and famous, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with like is Ellen nice?
Speaker 1: Is Ellen? And I'm like, first of all, Ellen's hilarious
Speaker 1: he and b she's a gay right icon, Like like,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't need her to be. She came
Speaker 1: out on television, got kicked off television for being gay,
Speaker 1: and then came back and dominated. But that's not enough
Speaker 1: for people. They're like, yeah, but is she nice? It's
Speaker 1: so childish. It's like being like, is my car also
Speaker 1: a boat? Just appreciate that you have a car? Also
Speaker 1: is Ellen nice? How many nice lesbians have you ever met?
Speaker 1: Your entire life? You know what I mean. I say,
Speaker 1: we don't talk about toxic studs enough. I say it often.
Speaker 1: I know, step up toxics, toxic studs. I wonder what.
Speaker 3: Comedians right becuse they always talk about the trauma that
Speaker 3: comedians have experienced. I wonder if it is the expectation
Speaker 3: of always having to make people laugh, you know a
Speaker 3: psycho that is to get on stage in front of hundreds,
Speaker 3: thousands of people and say I'm going to make them last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very hard job. Yes, it's a very
Speaker 1: hard job, and it's a very weird job. Well how
Speaker 1: do you do it on the Daily Show? How do
Speaker 1: you do meaning the difference between this and that?
Speaker 3: Well, because number one, I don't approach it from a
Speaker 3: comediance perspective because I'm not a comedian.
Speaker 1: And number thank you thank you for saying that.
Speaker 3: Yes I hate when they say that, but the Daily
Speaker 3: Show allows me to go in death on things I
Speaker 3: might just touch here on the surface.
Speaker 1: But are you do you worry about getting laughs?
Speaker 3: No? I rather really I'm also I'm more so concerned
Speaker 3: with just saying something because that's when I look at
Speaker 3: the Daily Show, that's the type of institution.
Speaker 1: That it is.
Speaker 3: I'm more so concerned about saying something that I know
Speaker 3: people are going to actually being formed by and take
Speaker 3: something away from and be like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1: But you don't want to do that thing where you
Speaker 1: do what might have been a punchline and you hear
Speaker 1: that air can conditioning unit in the background, you're like.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, okay, I feel like I do that anyway
Speaker 3: naturally though, I feel like, you know, you have to
Speaker 3: use humor to push push things along.
Speaker 1: Right, But there it's sort of like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: metered for laugh. So I'm just wondering if you get
Speaker 1: it's not scared but like a little bit like you're yeah,
Speaker 1: scared kids, Yeah, yes, And and do you change your approach?
Speaker 1: You just read what's on the you write it, read
Speaker 1: what's on the problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I might be a psychopath or some type
Speaker 3: of sociopaths. You know, you're going to either get the
Speaker 3: laugh or you're going to feel the pain of not right.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing is like, I don't you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's I have a hugehunk about
Speaker 1: athletes too, because we want, you know, good mental health
Speaker 1: and sports. And I'm like, you know, I want good
Speaker 1: mental health for everybody, but not athletes, Like we need
Speaker 1: our athletes to be psychos? What we I repeat myself,
Speaker 1: and we need our athletes to be Did you see
Speaker 1: the last dance? Did Michael Jordan seem mentally healthy to
Speaker 1: you in the slightest giant mansion? One chair? Come on, guys, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's out of his mind. So what I'm saying punching
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr? And then I don't care. And then people
Speaker 1: are like, well, he's you know, he's an angry guy.
Speaker 1: He's not a great husband or that. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not married to him. I don't give a shit.
Speaker 1: Be as long as you don't break the law, you
Speaker 1: can be as rotten to the people around you as well.
Speaker 1: Lebron said on his podcast the other day, in order
Speaker 1: to be great, you have to hurt your loved ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what the gambit is. All these people, any
Speaker 1: great athlete is Tom Brady is out of his mind.
Speaker 1: It's like you couldn't even be retired. Made it like
Speaker 1: ten days and it was like, I don't know these
Speaker 1: fucking kids, like you can't like you don't know all
Speaker 1: any great is out of their mind. And I don't
Speaker 1: even get into like OJM I'm talking about just like MJ.
Speaker 1: Lebron's a little something right if he's saying in public,
Speaker 1: you have to hurt your family like Lance Armstrong. The
Speaker 1: joke I did on the show was like, I don't
Speaker 1: even consider Lance Armstrong an athlete. I consider Lance Armstrong
Speaker 1: a criminal who found a bike. Like that guy is
Speaker 1: a criminal. He think about the worst lie you ever told,
Speaker 1: and then imagine selling bracelets about it. This guy's gone
Speaker 1: tiger Tiger. I mean that dude, he's like he's he's
Speaker 1: tokyo drifting at six thirty in the morning. These guys
Speaker 1: are wired to and by the way, the women are too.
Speaker 1: Like the gymnastics girls. We don't give those girls enough credit, man,
Speaker 1: Like that's a crazy thing they're doing, a lot of
Speaker 1: them are getting paid, a lot of them. We're getting
Speaker 1: sexually abuse, which is insane. And you got to get
Speaker 1: it right, be first time, and you gotta stick the
Speaker 1: landing or you're not. You ain't getting no wheaties. You
Speaker 1: ain't getting the cover of wheaties with the wobbly landing.
Speaker 1: You gotta nail it. The figure skating girls, they look
Speaker 1: like they're in trouble, like they've First of all, it
Speaker 1: looks like they've never even seen makeup when they it's
Speaker 1: like when they do the thing the routine, and they
Speaker 1: gotta like they've never it's like their first day with
Speaker 1: makeup like Daldaldall, Daldaldall Shock Horror like there, and then
Speaker 1: they gotta they and then they gotta they do like
Speaker 1: the hologram thing, uh, and then they gotta finish and
Speaker 1: sit in the booth with their kidnappers at the end.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's people being mentally unwell, are people
Speaker 3: are really using their brains? And what I mean by
Speaker 3: that is if you decide that, you know, you want
Speaker 3: to wake up every day and just do the same
Speaker 3: routine over and over, it doesn't really take much brain function.
Speaker 3: But people that are really having to open up their
Speaker 3: brains and use their minds, it's just using their brain
Speaker 3: to that fullest extent.
Speaker 1: Does that just make you feel drive you crazy? I'll
Speaker 1: make you seehim crazy? I don't I think that you know.
Speaker 1: The joke I did in the show is it's like
Speaker 1: when you're doing a video when you're making a video
Speaker 1: game character, you have like one hundred points for like
Speaker 1: you know, dexterity and speed, and all that stuff. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what God does, and sometimes he just
Speaker 1: gets the calibration wrong, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: with when God was making Woody Allen, they were like
Speaker 1: how many He was like, how many points should we
Speaker 1: give him for comedy and filmmaking. He's like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: give him a hundred. And then they were like, but
Speaker 1: that's not gonna make points for not fucking his family,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think that would be low emotional, Like you, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a nice way to put it. Uh, that's what
Speaker 1: that's what the charges were. He low emotionally, I can't. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like so I just think if you're you're good at
Speaker 1: one thing, it's so weird. If you can rhyme good,
Speaker 1: it's like wrap that's in your brain. Most people's brains
Speaker 1: don't come up with couplets like that. Most people don't
Speaker 1: see the world analytically. Most people don't see let alone analytically,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, funnily so it's just you're gonna
Speaker 1: be deficient in other areas as long as you're not
Speaker 1: breaking the law.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's the gifts that make you shitty
Speaker 3: or the world that comes with the gifts?
Speaker 1: Oh, being a shitty person.
Speaker 3: I think, oh when you I mean, I think you
Speaker 3: have the gift, but it's I think it's the world
Speaker 3: to access the power the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it. It's hard. I can't
Speaker 1: think of many people that have been made. You have
Speaker 1: to make a real effort to uh stay centered with
Speaker 1: all the because it just becomes like if everywhere you
Speaker 1: go people say you're in great shape, You're never going
Speaker 1: to go to the gym. I mean so if everyone's like,
Speaker 1: oh and anything for you, sir or miss or whatever,
Speaker 1: it's like you're just not. It's people will only be
Speaker 1: as good as they have to be. That's been my experience.
Speaker 1: It's like if or if you demand it of them,
Speaker 1: then they'll do it. But people will naturally do as
Speaker 1: little as they It's like homework, Like what do I
Speaker 1: gotta do to get an I they if you're famous
Speaker 1: and talent, you don't have to do much. You just
Speaker 1: have to do the trick. You just got to be
Speaker 1: funny when the when it's time to be funny, you know.
Speaker 2: With your resume and your talent and all the things
Speaker 2: that you've done, and how funny you are, do you
Speaker 2: feel like you look you get overlooked a lot by
Speaker 2: the public, like you should be a bigger comedian because,
Speaker 2: like you said, the years that you put in this industry,
Speaker 2: from writing, from being on stage, from telling jokes all that.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I don't I could say yes or
Speaker 1: no because I kind of feel like there's no one
Speaker 1: who I feel like I deserve there. I should be
Speaker 1: in their place, right, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: when so and I also feel like certain people, the
Speaker 1: people that are like people that do arenas or whatever,
Speaker 1: it's like they have real, like real performance attributes that
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have, Like they're just really they walk
Speaker 1: on stage and you're like, well, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: I always tell Kevin Hart he is sunshine. He's sunshine, right.
Speaker 1: I direct some of those Chase commercials. You cut to
Speaker 1: that motherfucker in a close up. The sun is shining.
Speaker 1: It can be an in, it can be in a house.
Speaker 1: He's just like, let me tell you something. Royle just
Speaker 1: he's Dave is bugs bunny. He just is bugs bunny.
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about. Chris Rock talks like
Speaker 1: a chainsaw, yang ing it like Ellen sounds like a
Speaker 1: flute and and a baby Jerry Seinfeld sounds like a clarinet,
Speaker 1: so so all these people it's I mean, and I
Speaker 1: clearly I've thought about it, but it's I'm again the
Speaker 1: gratitude thing. You've had a great career. Yeah, I've had
Speaker 1: a dude, I've had an amazing like, yeah, I have
Speaker 1: an announcement to make everybody uh so No, but I
Speaker 1: that's the thing is, like I I could focus on,
Speaker 1: like what why not? I'm what else? What else? What
Speaker 1: would happen? What am I looking for? Like I need
Speaker 1: to be on private jets instead of business class? Like
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm I'm good Like I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it like I wouldn't accept it
Speaker 1: or I wouldn't accept a promotion in some ways, but
Speaker 1: like I do theaters. I've come on here, people watch it,
Speaker 1: and I yeah, it's I. I appreciate the question, but but
Speaker 1: I and and I was kind of hung up on
Speaker 1: that for a long time, but the last six months
Speaker 1: to a year just been like this is amazing, Like
Speaker 1: I'm either in the ring or I have ringside seats,
Speaker 1: gotch for for for life. It's not like forever, but
Speaker 1: like so far, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if people know what Neil used to be called.
Speaker 3: You call him the Black comic whisperer, because you were
Speaker 3: in all like the legendary black comics ears the chapels
Speaker 3: to the rocks, Right. So when you see everything that's
Speaker 3: been going on with black comedians this year, all started
Speaker 3: by the club Cat Williams composition, What.
Speaker 1: Are your thoughts? I always say Cat Williams is the
Speaker 1: most Cat Williams on a podcast or a show is
Speaker 1: like Mike Tyson in the late eighties, where it's the
Speaker 1: most exciting ninety seconds in sports. We're like, God, damn,
Speaker 1: like you cut, he is gonna make some shit happen.
Speaker 1: He is like what they in basketball, what they call
Speaker 1: instant offense, Like put him in, He's getting his shot off.
Speaker 1: So I don't. I mean, Kat's hilarious and the and
Speaker 1: some of the people e centrically entertain as one of
Speaker 1: the funniest people I've ever been around. Like some of
Speaker 1: the people he dissed, I'm like, I just disagree with
Speaker 1: his his appraisal of them, and and almost like I
Speaker 1: everyone he talked about was really funny. And Cat's great
Speaker 1: and all the people he went after were great and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that's he felt that that's how a hit
Speaker 1: needed to do it. But I'm gonna as I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take my white ass out of it.
Speaker 3: Where do white comedians go to start beefs like that?
Speaker 1: Is it rogan? Uh? A little bit? Yeah, it's I
Speaker 1: think it's a little it's it's it's caddy, But I
Speaker 1: think it's more. I think I want to I don't
Speaker 1: want to say like we keep it private, charlot man,
Speaker 1: but I I can't remember a time where there was
Speaker 1: like shots fired like that, Like I don't it's just
Speaker 1: it didn't seem but I but it was. If you're
Speaker 1: asking me, did I watch it twice? I did? Kat
Speaker 1: on clubs?
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on comedians critiquing other comedians about
Speaker 3: two things in particular, One whether or not another comedian
Speaker 3: is funny, and two this I think it's to me,
Speaker 3: it's kind of a new phenomenon comedian saying other comedians
Speaker 3: are making offensive jokes.
Speaker 1: The offensive thing is again, why are you asking the
Speaker 1: clowns for It's like, it's like, why are you going
Speaker 1: to clowns for morality? You know, it's like eating a
Speaker 1: Snickers and being like this is very nutritious. No shit,
Speaker 1: it's a Snickers bar. I don't think. I think if
Speaker 1: a comic criticized another comedian's morality, the critic probably isn't
Speaker 1: very funny. That'd be my first guess. And and in
Speaker 1: the I just think it's a I think it's bad.
Speaker 1: If you got something a problem with somebody, I would
Speaker 1: just say, like, address it directly or leave it, because
Speaker 1: I don't. I there's plenty people I think are shitty
Speaker 1: at comedy. I just don't. I just avoid him, or
Speaker 1: I say, like, you know, you did your thing something vague,
Speaker 1: but I don't. But I would never criticize somebody in
Speaker 1: public that I can. I'm sure I have, but I
Speaker 1: try to avoid it if I can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, were talking about that this week with girod call
Speaker 3: Michael Dave Chapelle because he said Reside was saying, you know,
Speaker 3: Dave's whole legacy is transgender jokes, and then he said
Speaker 3: Dave the ego maniac. But then literally and I said,
Speaker 3: I said, you should not criticize the comedian about anything
Speaker 3: offensive because it can happen to you in a second.
Speaker 1: And literally less than twelve.
Speaker 3: Hours later, they were on Gerard about what he said
Speaker 3: on his HBO show, and you know being a.
Speaker 1: Role playing slave in Master. Well, yeah, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like me too, and somebody it's like, I don't you
Speaker 1: can you can get popped. We can all get popped
Speaker 1: for tons of anything. If you've been doing it long enough,
Speaker 1: like you did a p you don't even We all
Speaker 1: do so many podcasts you don't ever remember, and then
Speaker 1: someone can remember. Then you're like, no, but that is
Speaker 1: my I guess I said that. So that's the thing
Speaker 1: of like casting the first stone. Like you, it's a
Speaker 1: dangerous game because everyone it's like mutually assured destruction basically
Speaker 1: once you start, uh yeah, point fingers, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Spider Man in any any minute. You know.
Speaker 3: Bill Burd spoke about being on Chappelle Show back in
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 1: Did you know.
Speaker 3: That all of those guys, the Birds, the Rogans, the
Speaker 3: Donnelle role and Charlie Murphy, did you know all of
Speaker 3: these people would end up being what's up for Donnelle
Speaker 3: icons in their own right?
Speaker 2: Did I picked a Donell?
Speaker 1: No, I'm focusing on the with the bento. Oh was
Speaker 1: that Ashley? That's hilarious? Was he wearing Timberland's all right, great,
Speaker 1: he looks like he doesn't look like that, but I
Speaker 1: like how fatt he is. It really captures his dowiness.
Speaker 1: The the yeah. I mean, I remember when Bill auditioned
Speaker 1: and Dave was like, thank god he can act because
Speaker 1: that dude's really funny, and Charlie and yeah, dude, I
Speaker 1: if I all I remember about doing the show is
Speaker 1: it was very hard, but it was very gratifying to
Speaker 1: be able to have like small ideas with me and
Speaker 1: Dave and then being able to expand them because the Charlie,
Speaker 1: I don't have ever told you that, but like me
Speaker 1: and Dave wrote Half Baked, we turned it in right
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety seven, we have a celebratory mushroom night.
Speaker 1: And this is when I wasn't using medicine for healing.
Speaker 1: It was back when I was just using it the
Speaker 1: party baby, and we have we do mushrooms. Go to
Speaker 1: club and I see Dave talking to this guy and
Speaker 1: I'm like, is it like Eddie Murphy's brother, like fat brother?
Speaker 1: And then I go over and it's Charlie. I didn't
Speaker 1: know him. And Charlie's like, I'm on mushrooms and Charlie's
Speaker 1: like holding court, like me and my brother came out here,
Speaker 1: did it. It was the only real motherfucker's here and did
Speaker 1: it Jared Carles and and uh and then and he
Speaker 1: kept talking about Hollywood and and Charlie was going, there's
Speaker 1: poison and ice cream. This motherfucker this poison and ice cream.
Speaker 1: So then me and they would say there's poison and
Speaker 1: ice cream for like years. Then we were writing that
Speaker 1: real World sketch and we were like, you know, we
Speaker 1: should get for this, We should get uh Charlie Murphy
Speaker 1: to see if he can do it. And then based
Speaker 1: on doing shrooms with them five years earlier and being like,
Speaker 1: it's something about that guy. Wow, So I guess there
Speaker 1: and then and then snowballed into and then he tells
Speaker 1: the Rick James story, He tells the Prince story, He
Speaker 1: and and uh, and then it just became it changed
Speaker 1: all of our lives. So it's you know, it's like
Speaker 1: taking taking credit for it seems wrong because it's we
Speaker 1: all got we we all got so much from it
Speaker 1: from having him on the show. He tells the story
Speaker 1: that my life it's like, you know, before and after
Speaker 1: that sketch ry like I could almost tell you the
Speaker 1: date it was twenty years ago, like recently. Could a
Speaker 1: show like that exist ever? Again? I think you could
Speaker 1: probably figure out a way to do the sketches, but
Speaker 1: in terms of impact everything, so it was one it
Speaker 1: was like one funnel, like culture was one funnel, and
Speaker 1: so you would get it, like go to the funnel
Speaker 1: and get what came out. And now there's there's you know,
Speaker 1: a million funnels on all of our phone so you
Speaker 1: just go like I subscribed to forty funnels and then
Speaker 1: you But it used to be like do you there
Speaker 1: was only one place to go or three places to go,
Speaker 1: so we were we were, we were. I guess Comedy
Speaker 1: Center wasn't like as big before Chappelle's, but but it
Speaker 1: was always big. And then yeah, so I don't You
Speaker 1: could probably do the sketches, but I don't think it
Speaker 1: would have the the thing where everyone's watching it, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think. Do you guys think it depends who
Speaker 1: the talent is? Yea, yeah, yeah, it's it's possible, but
Speaker 1: but it's unlikely. Like yeah, okay, now Dave always says
Speaker 1: like people are probably not going to be famous again
Speaker 1: the same way I was duh, No, way, that's been
Speaker 1: I know, but it is an interesting thing of like
Speaker 1: why not and you go cause it's you can't. It's
Speaker 1: the funnel problem. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: I was, you know, Mike Myers, Like I was talking
Speaker 1: to Mike Myers the community and we were talking about
Speaker 1: showbiz and he was he was talking about shows and
Speaker 1: I as he was talking, I was like, in one decade,
Speaker 1: Mike Myers was Wayne from Wayne's World, Shrek, Doctor Evil,
Speaker 1: and Austin Powers. You can run president one guy. Wow,
Speaker 1: one guy, He's Canadian, one guy in ten years into
Speaker 1: like damn so that and he goes, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a monoculture and now it's like sort of more of
Speaker 1: a free for all. Eighties ninety celebrity is so powerful.
Speaker 3: Literally you can get elected president of the United States
Speaker 3: of America. Yeah, it's a different level of celebrity. Yeah, black,
Speaker 3: all white, No, it's just a different level of celebrity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like the last of the like Tom Cruise, yes, Madonna,
Speaker 1: as I saw you two with the sphere like they're
Speaker 1: real and they sold seven hundred and fifty thousand tickets
Speaker 1: in two months. It's like that's a a lot of
Speaker 1: tickets des White.
Speaker 3: It was real fandom, real talent, and the barrier of
Speaker 3: entry was way more difficult to get in any of
Speaker 3: these spaces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, you had to You had to
Speaker 1: be talented or you had to be like because I
Speaker 1: don't think Madonna or Tom Cruise are the most but
Speaker 1: they're really good at like they don't Madonnas doesn't have
Speaker 1: the best singing voice, hump Cruse probably doesn't have the
Speaker 1: best acting instrument, but like they figured they were good.
Speaker 1: They took the job seriously. Like Tom Cruise is like
Speaker 1: like jumping rope before, you know, like doing shit to
Speaker 1: make himself last movie, did his own studs. Yeah he's crazy. Yep.
Speaker 3: You was talking about comedians with morals, right, and we
Speaker 3: shouldn't go to the clowns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for morality, But what about Kevin Hartnell? Degitenerous? What
Speaker 1: about him?
Speaker 3: Because you said that they and especially you said that
Speaker 3: they have to be they have to be great humanitarians
Speaker 3: and role models.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is they they're expected to be, but
Speaker 1: it's not. But it's not a realistic expectation. That's what
Speaker 1: I have a joke in the special about keV where
Speaker 1: like I had a handyman at my house. It was like,
Speaker 1: do you know Kevin Harden? I was like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: goes Is he humble? And I was like, you're a handyman,
Speaker 1: you're not humble? Like why does Kevin have to be humble?
Speaker 1: What he was asking me is, hey, Neil, is that
Speaker 1: five foot three billionaire humble? What do you think? How
Speaker 1: hum many think Kevin Hard is on a scale from
Speaker 1: Napoleon to Tom Cruise. If you had to guess, why
Speaker 1: are you looking to Kevin Hart for humility? What he
Speaker 1: tries to be?
Speaker 3: To your point when you said, when you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Kevin's I would I would like you we all know Kevin.
Speaker 1: Kevin's a good dude, but he's not humble, nord should he?
Speaker 1: Why does he have to be humble?
Speaker 3: He's not a different records around your peers, but to
Speaker 3: people he's humble To people, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's a nice guy. Well, because they can all throw
Speaker 1: him in the trash. He's tiny. Uh, he has to
Speaker 1: be humby. He's just for security.
Speaker 2: Because even with keV, keV does things that I think
Speaker 2: other people in this situation wouldn't do. Kevin's still come
Speaker 2: back and touch places that other comedian.
Speaker 1: Kevin's a great I really mean that when like, Kev's
Speaker 1: a great dude. But like this expectation that celebrities have
Speaker 1: to be moral, it's just like a fake. It's a
Speaker 1: just moving the goalpost. I'm not saying I'm not saying
Speaker 1: they should be able to break laws or any of
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I'm just saying I think it's a
Speaker 1: fake expectation based on somebody. Because you're doing well, then
Speaker 1: people go, well, then are you nice? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, sometimes are you nice? I'm nice? Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's a human being. Yeah, It's why there's churches on
Speaker 1: every corner because we're not nice, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you just because we need constant reminders of like,
Speaker 1: don't murder. Look at this, don't murder. And you're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, I shouldn't murder. But we need constant reminders.
Speaker 1: And the expectations that they they'll come from clowns is
Speaker 1: a bit like come on, come on, there's other there's
Speaker 1: it's it's not it should not be our responsibility. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a failure of priests, mom's clergy,
Speaker 1: you know, like and and politicians and because they couldn't
Speaker 1: keep their ticks in their pants. And so now it's like, well,
Speaker 1: all right, ship, who else we got that? Allen seems
Speaker 1: pretty you know what I mean? Who else? You know,
Speaker 1: Joe your next man. They're gonna start looking for you
Speaker 1: from morality. Oh they've been please you think? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not funny enough.
Speaker 3: I think I I put it out there enough, Like
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want that. I want to be the bad guy.
Speaker 3: You do want to be the bad guy, not personally,
Speaker 3: but to your point, I want you just to look
Speaker 3: at me as a human being.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So if you look at me the human being, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make mistakes. I'm not gonna always get things right.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna always say the right thing. I might
Speaker 3: piss you off because you know, especially with us right
Speaker 3: and Neil is a huge mental health advocate as well.
Speaker 1: Anytime you're a.
Speaker 3: Person that is always on a healing journey and you
Speaker 3: talk about your mental health, they want us to do
Speaker 3: everything perfect.
Speaker 1: That's right. I can't say anything yeah too wrong?
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, aren't you supposed to be a mental
Speaker 3: health guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But like I still like fucking or whatever, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't, yeah, but you're right, it does become I'm
Speaker 1: worried that people are gonna be like, well, how could
Speaker 1: you say that athletes don't want good you don't want
Speaker 1: a good mental health because I don't because I'm a person.
Speaker 1: I'm selfish. I want a good game and that you're
Speaker 1: gonna have good games when everyone's fucking out of their minds.
Speaker 1: That's true. It's like, I don't you know what, sports
Speaker 1: was invented to train the military between wars. So that's yes,
Speaker 1: that's how in like in in ancient Greece like two
Speaker 1: three thousand years ago, it was between wars that were
Speaker 1: like we need to get the army to be able
Speaker 1: to do like to train between and they didn't have
Speaker 1: the ropes and all that shit, so they would like
Speaker 1: do battles or whatever. So so that's what that's what
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like an analogous of it's like
Speaker 1: a proxy for war. So it's like Cleveland versus or
Speaker 1: the Clippers versus or whoever versus whoever, or or or
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and you're really you know, at the least
Speaker 1: these people.
Speaker 3: Are our lovers of violence, right, yeah, like, at least
Speaker 3: they're massacres. If you're a football player, boxer, you see,
Speaker 3: at the least you're a massacre.
Speaker 1: Well, I bet that they're more sadists than massacre. They
Speaker 1: like whooping ass more than they like in their ass
Speaker 1: whooped massacrets like it in their asshoo.
Speaker 3: But even if you're a running back, you still know
Speaker 3: you're gonna get hit, so you still have to kind
Speaker 3: of like the pain.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean? Well, you right, But
Speaker 1: you know, people they like her, Yeah, they like it's
Speaker 1: like hurt or be hurt. There. It's a lot of aggression.
Speaker 1: And what I would say is like people's need for
Speaker 1: aggression and people's kind of unhealthy need for status is
Speaker 1: the greatest economic driver in world history. Damn, I really,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, every great everyone on this
Speaker 1: wall didn't do it for the right reasons. They did
Speaker 1: it because they wanted a come up. They wanted I'm
Speaker 1: sick of being treated like garbage and I'm sick and
Speaker 1: i'm i'm I know, I'm more special than this. So
Speaker 1: so that they went out of the they moved from
Speaker 1: wherever they were to do a thing that would get
Speaker 1: them status and they could like you know what, I
Speaker 1: am great, I am. I do deserve exaltation. That's inventors,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, inventors are all there because they got it.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get some pussy. Like it's a long
Speaker 1: term pussy plan. That's kind of true. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of women down to the patent office. They don't need
Speaker 1: to do it. They don't need to invent stuff. They'll
Speaker 1: just wait year rounds guys the event stuff get like
Speaker 1: guys that are like three out of ten you invented
Speaker 1: Elon Musk. You see that WHLD picture and when he
Speaker 1: had bad hair. He's fat though, it's like the guy
Speaker 1: did it for for to get people to get women.
Speaker 1: I mean not exactly, but like that's the whole that's
Speaker 1: like the primal urge. That's the when you watch the
Speaker 1: Facebook movie.
Speaker 3: That's the whole premise of the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So I'm not even mad at it.
Speaker 1: It's just don't break laws, gotch But you can be
Speaker 1: broaden your whatever, Just don't break laws.
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