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Speaker 1: The Hunting Collective is presented by Element. I guess I

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Speaker 1: grew up on an all day. Hey, everybody, Phil is

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Speaker 1: mad at me because you hear my voice. Well, I

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Speaker 1: walked like I had a great start to my day.

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Speaker 1: I had a cup of coffee, some toast, and a banana.

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Speaker 1: I listened to some music on the way, and it's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day in Bosman Clearing Nice. I walked in

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Speaker 1: the studio to say hi to my to my pals Janice,

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Speaker 1: and Benn's like, Phil, Hi, I'm like, oh no, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: The alarm bells go off, it's fine. I got a

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Speaker 1: rapid test. I didn't know about. Rapid testing was six

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Speaker 1: Why I don't even get the test of it. It's

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Speaker 1: a great question. Six percent accurate, right, six percent failure? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's six out of ten. You should be calling in

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Speaker 1: via squadcast. Well now I feel I feel awful. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's too late now, so just let's just start the show. Band.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that I had no idea that I

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Speaker 1: could be spreading an illness. When I thought I was,

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Speaker 1: I slept outside on yesterday. Uh, well, Saturday night, I

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Speaker 1: tribe needed to that. But I'm also tested negative and

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Speaker 1: other people are. My wife is tested negative. So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I just got a little scratchy throat. You're

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Speaker 1: probably good. But now it's just it's just the paranoia. Man,

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Speaker 1: or seeing each other, you know, look right in your eyes. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: be honest, welcome back to this is uh attempt? Are

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Speaker 1: we say? Attempt number two? Episode number two of a

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Speaker 1: I don't know. How was the feedback for the first

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Speaker 1: a while. No, yeah, yeah, it was actually the most

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Speaker 1: interview though, after me a lot of famous people, the

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Speaker 1: Troy and Jacob Landry, the most famous gator hunters in

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Speaker 1: the world. You beat the pants off of them. No, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: Who was on the episode that I did? Who was

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Speaker 1: That's how much we pay attention. This guy named John

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Speaker 1: Trump feels like President. Oh, it was vlarious guyst I

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Speaker 1: could have something to do with it. He's a well

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Speaker 1: known figure. But I think the combination too, it's perfect.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we'll have him back every time we do.

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Speaker 1: Ask the Eagle. I always like mentioning guys shirker shirker hypothesis.

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Speaker 1: Explain what that is for us? Well, I look up,

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Speaker 1: that's uh phone numbers. This is about guys thing. And

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Speaker 1: it's been tough. I I all you people that have

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Speaker 1: not that I messed anything up, that I was in

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Speaker 1: Check it out, Bent. It's been it's been work. I've

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Speaker 1: reacting and making it making an app and um. So yeah,

422
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: we thought we were going to have a sweet private

423
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: land hunt. A friend of mine hooked us up with

424
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: a nice ranch to hunt on, and uh the ranch

425
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: was dead dead like crickets. There was elk on the ranch.

426
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: They were bugling in the middle of the night, but

427
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: an hour before daylight they were like, we were getting

428
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: up early just to go and listen to see we

429
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: can get on them. But an hour before daylight it

430
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: was crickets and they were just going to bed early.

431
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: We found a bowl. One evening, bedded right until dark.

432
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: He stood up out of his bed pretty much as

433
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: shooting light ended, you know, like I couldn't see my

434
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: pins anymore. So we had to adjust, and we just said,

435
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: you know what, let's go into the high country and

436
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: see what happened. So we I've been hunting around like

437
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: eight to nine thousand feet and we're like, all right,

438
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: let's go up to ten eleven. We hiked in there.

439
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: And as soon as we got in there the first day,

440
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: four pm, four bulls bugling, and uh, we had packed

441
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: to stay the night, got in on I think ebbowl.

442
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: Jason called him to probably seventies sixty, a little bit

443
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: out of my range. Let him walk. We camped out

444
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: next morning. Took us I don't know, thirty minutes to

445
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: get an answer. Another bugle and uh, yeah, I don't

446
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: know another ten fifteen minutes later. Here he came walking

447
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: down the it's not really a trail, kind of just

448
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: like an opening alleyway kind of just you know, pretty

449
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: thick stuff. We were in, but there was just like

450
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: this little medal and he came right down and and um, interestingly,

451
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: I've never done this I hadn't really seen it done

452
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: in person, but Jason I had been talking about it beforehand.

453
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: Was the frontal shot, and he told me the last

454
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: four out of five bulls he's killed, he's you know,

455
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: right above the sternom basically. And uh so this bull

456
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: is walking in and I'm thinking, man, there's a good

457
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: chance that that's gonna be my like the first opportunity

458
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: I get, you know, and uh I'm like, yeah, Jason said,

459
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: it's good, be good for me. It's a small window.

460
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna have a close shot end up being

461
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: probably I don't know, fifteen to seventeen yards something like that.

462
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: What kind of penetration to reach the vitals, because I

463
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: mean I've done I don't think i've ever I've done

464
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: frontal shots to the rifle, but never I don't think

465
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, you know, it's interesting I did that.

466
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: I had such good success. The bull runs off. Jason

467
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 1: bugles once and we hear a lot of crash as

468
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: soon as his bugle ends. And usually you bugle right

469
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 1: when you hit an animal with an arrow or an

470
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: elk with an arrow, to sort of like confuse them, slash,

471
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: calm things down, because a lot of times when they

472
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: hear that bugle, they're like, oh what was that? I

473
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: forgot about that sharp thing that just went through me,

474
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: you know. And it's the whole purpose is to make

475
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: him not run as are, you know, slow him down

476
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. Hopefully they get woozy and just fall

477
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: over dead. So he does that, and immediately we hear

478
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: a crash. Had I just stepped out into the opening

479
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: and looked up, I would have seen him piled up there.

480
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: But we didn't move. We're just like, all right, cool,

481
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 1: let's give it forty five minutes, even though we think

482
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: it was a great shot. Forty five minutes and we'll

483
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: go look. So we found him, and I'm like, holy cow,

484
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: that worked well. Through another story, I end up getting

485
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: I talked with a large animal vet that is a

486
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: big proponent of this shot, and kind of interviewed him

487
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: being like, well, what did I hit? You know? What's

488
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: all in there? And man, he's saying that just initially

489
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: on impact, right next to the trachea there you have

490
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: two major arteries, right, so hopefully you could be slicing those.

491
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: Then at that point you go between the lungs where

492
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: you have a major artery that enters the lungs there right,

493
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: or you could be hitting either part of the front

494
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: end of the lobe of the lungs. If you're a

495
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: little bit lower than that, you're gonna be clipping the

496
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: top of the heart major artery. You know, then you're

497
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: back into the liver, punching through the diaphragm, and you

498
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: know after that year in the room and which isn't

499
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: gonna do much damage. But um, he said the same thing.

500
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: He thinks it's roughly a six by eight square six

501
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: inches wide, eight inches tall, and he only takes that

502
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: shot twenty yards and under because he's like, it's not

503
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's not a broadside elk where you're looking

504
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: at almost eighteen by eighteen inches, you know, much much

505
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: bigger at for anybody that anybody that haunts turkeys with

506
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: the bow. I mean, you're shooting, you know a lot

507
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: of times you're your aim point there, and when you're

508
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: that's a similar size sixty eight inches probably sixtight inch square,

509
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: similar size if you're shooting for the wing butt right

510
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: above the beard. So yeah, and also elk are likely

511
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: to be coming in frontal and they're likely to be

512
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: close if you're calling them in like you were. So

513
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: that makes all the sense in the world to me. Um,

514
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: it seems like if you thought about it as much

515
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 1: as you clearly have, it's plenty ethical and plenty effective. Oh,

516
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe. In fact, like I think the animal

517
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: is dead and three to five seconds like completely expired,

518
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: the arrow went all we ended up getting all along. Um, definitely,

519
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: I cut like ten inches of the of the track

520
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: yet as it went through there, and then obviously the liver,

521
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: but the arra went all the way through his room

522
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: and the broadhead stuck in one of his hams. Yeah, buddy,

523
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: all right, Matthews, all right, Oh, I was very very

524
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm so the greatest thing about this whole thing is

525
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: to come out of a hunt where like I said,

526
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: I've missed bowls, I've hit bulls not recovered them, but

527
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: to come out and say, you know what, my equipment

528
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: is dialed right now. I have so much confidence in

529
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: the way that it works, like great aero penetration, quick kill,

530
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: it was accurate. Like it just feels so good to

531
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: have that confident feeling. It won't be long until Yeah,

532
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: but I do think once you get to that point,

533
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: because I've been there before. I feel like I'm there now.

534
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: I just need one to do what I needed to

535
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: do the right thing. Then you can start to like,

536
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: you can start to work around the small little idiosyncrasies,

537
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: a little nuances of like of how your arrow flight

538
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: or if if you're just trying to get one in

539
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: the right spot, like be confident that when a bull

540
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: is walking by, it's twenty yards you can put the

541
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: arrow where you need to. If you don't have full

542
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: confidence that you can do that, it's hard to work

543
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: on the little things. Um but with both like how

544
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: your bow is working, or what kind of arrow you're

545
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna shoot, and to to to how when you draw,

546
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: how you draw, how long you can hold all those

547
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: things that it's kind of hard to work on if

548
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: you're not confident in that end results. So once you

549
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: feel confident, you can really start to dial it in

550
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: and get to a point where point I'm not and now,

551
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: but I've been in the past where you really feel

552
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: like if if a shot is presented, it's going down. Yeah, Well,

553
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: you can focus on the hunt more right, not really

554
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: you know what your arrow is gonna do or shot

555
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: placement and all that because you're feeling strong. I was

556
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: probably telling me last time, I was switching releases a

557
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: lot this year, just try playing around. Like, if you're

558
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: in that confident state, you don't do that. Like you

559
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: don't you don't even think about your release. It's not

560
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: even a it's not something that comes into your mind.

561
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's a working part of the machine.

562
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: It's yeah. No, I have an archery hunt in November

563
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 1: with my dad rut white Tails, and I'm not going

564
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: to change the thing. I'm just gonna keep shooting and

565
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: hopefully making good focus shots every time I pulled the trigger. Alright, well,

566
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: congratulations on your first archery bowl. Hey, thanks, thanks Jason

567
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Phelps fore Man calling it in. That was sweet. See't

568
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: meet either hunts. That's right. Good footage everything. Oh it's

569
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna be some of the finest baby bell hunting footage

570
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: I think we've ever put out away. I'm excited. Um,

571
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: we have to wait a while, but we're still excited.

572
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Are we gonna put that out you think, like in

573
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: the off season to keep people titilated? Oh yeah, no,

574
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be uh sometime next summer. But it'll be

575
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: that perfect timing where I was telling you earlier. There's

576
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: some stuff that comes out on YouTube. It's sort of

577
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: like daily what do they call him, not live, but

578
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: like semi live a day or two later when they

579
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: do it. A lot of stuff I save, like the

580
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: Turkey season stuff. I save it to watch it in

581
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: January when I'm like anticipating and getting all fired up.

582
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: And um, that's what this will be. Yeah, because during

583
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: Turkey season, I don't want to watch someone else's turkey,

584
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, don't want to go out there and do

585
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: it myself. But it's a great way to get jazzed

586
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: up and you know, learn some stuff beforehand. So anyways, yeah,

587
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: it'll be sometime in the summer. It'll get you all jack.

588
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I mean I am. I'm still jacked

589
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: up every time I I packed my truck and head

590
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: out for Elk or Milder or whatever. Even though I'll

591
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: tell you what, even though Montana has not been kind

592
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: to me, every time I go to another state, I

593
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: feel my tag. But Montana specifically, it's becoming a it's

594
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: becoming it's not a curse yet a few more years,

595
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's getting there. Don't let that thought

596
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: into your mind. I'm not. I'm not. I did like

597
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: Steve's line from from the trailer for Season nine, which

598
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: is out now on Netflix me either TV, where he

599
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: said you have to act like an optimist. He even

600
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: if right like me, right now you're thinking like a pessimist,

601
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: like maybe it's just not my year, but it can

602
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: be if you just keep going. Yeah, I'm glad I've

603
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: at least turned him so much to the point that

604
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: it's part of optimism enters his brain. It took you

605
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: years and years ago. And we're gonna do a podcast

606
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: coming up later this week in fact, and so it

607
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: likely will be the next one you listen to about

608
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: wounding animals. I believe you're gonna take part in that,

609
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: you honest um, hopefully we'll have some other folks from

610
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: from the Mediator crewel cal same longer than other folks.

611
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: You know, you saw it on the Colorado episode of

612
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: Mediator TV, if you've watched on Netflix. I mean, it happens,

613
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: wounding animals. It happens to all of us. I think

614
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't met anyone that's a hardcore archer hunter.

615
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: It spends a lot of time doing it that hasn't

616
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: had this happen any kind of hunter, any kind of hunter,

617
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: any done with rifles, man they get away times. So

618
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: I know there's plenty of people that are veteran hunters

619
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: that listen to this, but there's a lot of people

620
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: that are brand new or are getting into it, or

621
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: have been into it a couple of years. And we

622
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: have the dearest Phil over here, who soon we'll be

623
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: have a hunter safety card laminated in his wallet at

624
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: all times, and we want to make sure that we

625
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: talk about it as folks and makes here he'll join

626
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: in on the wound last converse. He'll come in and

627
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: be like, it's awful and what did you make me do?

628
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: But um, it's an important conversation. I think we I

629
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: think our maybe our reputations that we have it a

630
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: little bit more than other folks. But that's not even

631
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: the point. The point is we just want to look

632
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: at the data. We're gonna bring some data along. We've

633
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: already been talking to some state game agencies and kind

634
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: of sussing out how they look at wound loss and

635
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: when they when they do tag allocations and things of

636
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: that nature. So that will be next week or coming

637
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: up here in the month. Of October, as we sadly

638
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: say goodbye the sweet September, all the failures. All right,

639
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: we got some people coming up. Our last guest fills

640
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: a prize for you, specifically, I have a guess without

641
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: who it could be. Do alright, I don't guess yet.

642
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: All ruin us? All right? Our first guest on asked

643
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: the eagle, what do we call? Are we saying? Episode two, Yanni,

644
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: Part two? What are we saying? It doesn't matter, don't mated?

645
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, justin Carson, out of Texas, justin say

646
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: what's up? Howdy? How are you guys doing doing good? Uh?

647
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and let you rip your question.

648
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna have We're gonna try to keep this to

649
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty minutes. Um, so rip away. Let Yanni

650
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: know what you would like to ask the eagle? Okay, uh,

651
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: Nanny as someone who is uh, I've grown up white

652
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: kill hunting and duck hunting locally, but kind of making

653
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: a transition, hopefully into going out west doing more back

654
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: country hunting. I'm just kind of curious, um like gear

655
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: storage solutions travel as far as what kind of uh

656
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: you know? Ridds you guys, run with trucks tints. Are

657
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: you doing it all? Um? You know, backpacking in the

658
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: haul of camper back there, just kind of those solutions,

659
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: you know. For me, we're going to Colorado and an

660
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: elk hunt this fall. It's a thirteen hour drive, so uh,

661
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, we can't just run back to the house

662
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: if we forget something. So just kind of curious if

663
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: you guys use lists, what kind of storage solutions all

664
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: use in your vehicles your backpacks? Um, I know it's

665
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: pretty opmmitted question, but we'd just love to see. I'm

666
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: sure you know, you and Ben and the rest of

667
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: the guys all have different ideas on what works and

668
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: what doesn't, and just kind of curious what you guys

669
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: used for all that. Cool. Yeah, that's a great question. Um,

670
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: we could definitely write at least two chapters of a

671
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: book to answer. Um. So let's maybe use your upcoming

672
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: hunt as the example and we can sort of give

673
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: you some tips and tricks for that one in particular.

674
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Are you I'm I'm guessing you're going out for a

675
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: rifle season. We are, we are, We're going up to

676
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: call Auto. I actually didn't draw a tag this year,

677
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: but my buddy did offered their property up there. Um,

678
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: and so I'm just gonna kind of tag along. And

679
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: I've never been on an elk hunt before, so be

680
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: a good way to learn the ropes and and help

681
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: them out, is it? Do you know what season you're going? Yeah,

682
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: it's the late rifles season. It's the last week of October.

683
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: Last week of October. So that is that second or

684
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: third this year? I believe it's third, huh. And that

685
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: and that's not an over the counter unit. You just

686
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: can't buy a tag huh. No, you know they did

687
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: a second draw this year and there's still none. You know,

688
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: after all that shook out, there's nothing over the counter available.

689
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: You know. It's a bummer, but I'm kind of okay

690
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: with it. I'll get a chance to go up there

691
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: and learn what the heck is going on before I

692
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: spend the money on the tag. Right, and now you're

693
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: hunting private? Uh? Well, there, they have some land up there,

694
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: but you know, we spent we spent time up there.

695
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: They have elk that passed through, but not so much hangout.

696
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: So I think we'll be venturing out into public land,

697
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: got it. But you're gonna use this property as like

698
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: a base camp. Well, that's kind of what we're curious.

699
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: They do have a small cabin on it, so that

700
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: will be like home base. But we think we're gonna

701
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: have to reach out pretty far. Um, So I'm sure

702
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: we'll be will either be hiking out from there, or

703
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: we might drive, uh you know, tick up out to

704
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: a different location and comes set up like a chink

705
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: camp a little bit further down away. Got it. Um? Well, yeah,

706
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: let's see, let's start with the with the rigs. Uh.

707
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: When you say riggs, I'm guessing you're talking about like

708
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: a truck, right, Yeah, I'll tell your story about your truck, Johnnie,

709
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: tell Justin all about your I'm not gonna tell him

710
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna buy a Daryl Walterrap Edition Toyota Tacoma. Right,

711
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: that's got a red racing stripe down the So it's beautiful.

712
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Who knew that he made a that Toyota did a

713
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: Darryl waltrip edition. Totally non sensical. It doesn't make any

714
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: sense that Darrell walterp Toyota Tacoma. But I digress. Continue. Um,

715
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: I don't do any too spe So as far as

716
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: my truck goes, I've just got a camper, and I've

717
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: got a I think like I think it's an inch

718
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: and an eighth piece of plywood that's that's covered in

719
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: um just like that you know, green fake carpet stuff.

720
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: And I've got a contractors window so I can actually

721
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: slide it in through there. And it's like three quarters

722
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: of the length of my bed and it just sits

723
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: right on top of my you know truck bedrails, and

724
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: if I want, I can take a little sea clamps

725
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: and hold it down. But it's so heavy that and

726
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: that it works there and so it actually, um, it's

727
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: basically just a divider in a way, just to kind

728
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: of keep it organized. I kind of keep the clean

729
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: dry stuff up top, and then underneath it. It's got

730
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: just enough height to slide in coolers, um, you know,

731
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: in any of you know, wet or nastier gear. I've

732
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: got just I've got the shallow topper. It's not the

733
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: one that pops up over your cab, you know. And

734
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: so for me, that old enough for that. I'm telling you,

735
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: my next truck is definitely gonna have it. Um Because

736
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: when I when I crawl in there and I'm on

737
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: my side, my shoulder is just about to touch the

738
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: top of the camper, you know, if I want to

739
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: sleep in there, So it's a little bit tight. So

740
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: usually if I'm gonna sleep next to the truck, I'm

741
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: gonna pull out the you know, they're just the cop

742
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: and sleeping bag and then if it's really cool, then

743
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: might get into a tent or something. So yeah, as

744
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: far as that goes, I don't know. You know, it

745
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: gets some I have I like to keep my stuff organized,

746
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: so I'll probably have some rubber made storage containers, you

747
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: know with different kits in there, one for cooking and

748
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: you know, one with food in it and whatnot. Um,

749
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: but yeah, you guys definitely gonna need to make a

750
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: plan on whether you're you know, if you're just hunting

751
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: out of the truck where you're staying, if you're gonna

752
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: go backpack, and um that hunt is getting a little

753
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: bit later into the season, so you could have some

754
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: major weather, major snow, major cold temps. But man, October

755
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: in Colorado also has like the knack is sometimes being

756
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: very warm and like so warm that like it's not

757
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: good for l cotton. Yeah, I've had a few of those. Yeah,

758
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: two of them in fact, where we hunted water holes

759
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: around this same time, UM, shot a bear. I had

760
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: a buddy shot of shoot a bear, black bear of

761
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: a water hole at like late October Colorado rifle season,

762
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: because that's the only thing we can do to hunt.

763
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: The sixty seventy degrees in the in the daytime, and

764
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: all the creators got their winter coats on already, so

765
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: they're all hanging on the north face and slopes. They're

766
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: not coming out to feed, you know, except for very

767
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: early and late in the day. Um. Anyways, I would

768
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: be prepared for both extremes, like be prepared to be

769
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: hiking around in a T shirt midday, but also be

770
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: prepared you know with some gators bundle up. You know. Yeah,

771
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: we were there. We were actually up there on a

772
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: four whe only trip in that area back in September,

773
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: and on you know, the Sunday we were there's not

774
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: any one degrees and then Tuesday we got twelve in

775
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: to the snow. Uh. It's an interesting world region. Welcome

776
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: to the West. Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you, um

777
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: what I what I've done. I've been doing this a

778
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: lot this year, truck camping and backhuntry, tent camping in

779
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: different things. I try to make sure I have like

780
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: a staging idea when I go on a hunt. Our

781
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: our recent Missouri breaks hunt was like this where I'm

782
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna have. I start off with, I have a YETI

783
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: got the YETI go box. I have like a YETI

784
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: go box with if I'm gonna truck camp with all

785
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: my gear in it, anything like flashlights, pair of cord,

786
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: any extra knives, any kind of gear related stuff that's

787
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: not in my pack is in one go box. I

788
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: have another go box with all my cook stuff anything

789
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: you know, plates, forks, anything that you would need to

790
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: cook from there. Um, so that's that's too. You know,

791
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: two important things for me. I'll have a bin with

792
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: all of my sleeping stuff. That includes I usually bring

793
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: like two sleeping bags, two tents, you know, because you

794
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: could never know what you're gonna be dealing with. And

795
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: then another bend. I put all my snacks and snack

796
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: light and stuff like that, a lantern and a plastic

797
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: table and a big giant yetie cooler yetie to tent

798
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: to put my food in. And if a killing milk,

799
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: that's where the the elk will go. And so that's

800
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: what the back of my truck looks like, but then

801
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: I also try to understand like staging. If I'm camping

802
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: with my truck, I don't have I don't sleep in

803
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: the back of my truck. I don't I don't have

804
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: a cap or on or top on it or anything.

805
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: And so I'll have I have the Nemo Endurance, the

806
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: two person expedition tent that I it's super easy to

807
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: set up. He just takes you about ten fifteen minutes.

808
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: I usually just pull my truck up, pop that up,

809
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: put my plastic table out, and then right next to that,

810
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I'll put that tent. And then I always have UM

811
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: an Ultra light tent in my pack or or stash

812
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: somewhere in case I'm thinking, man, I'm gonna probably spike

813
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: out tonight. UM I have those sky Air u L

814
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: t to Ultra Light Stone Glacier tent, which it just

815
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: takes a couple of trek and poles, a couple of

816
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: stakes to put up. And so that's how I do it.

817
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: I try to make sure if I'm going to camp,

818
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: buy the truck. I know I got everything there, but

819
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna break out and go spike camp, I've

820
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: got not only you know, a lighter sleeping bag, a

821
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: lighter tent. I've also have, you know, I know this

822
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit first world to have two

823
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: of everything, but that's what I try to do. And

824
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: then from there I try to make sure that I've

825
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: got I'm always going to have something to boil water with,

826
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: something to cook with. I know you guys are using

827
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: what's the stove? You guys have been using the little

828
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: oh the mr reactor reactor. Yeah. I can't believe it

829
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: took me so long to make the switch man from

830
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: jet boys, jet boils like the ubiquitous I feel. I

831
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: don't know if I justin, if you have jet boiler,

832
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: have some something to cook up, m alreadys and boiled water. Yeah,

833
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: I've got an ms are just a little pocket rockets.

834
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: There go. Those things take a beating. Yeah, those things

835
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: are good. Um. Yeah, I don't know what Jeb Will did, man,

836
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: it must have been good marketing. Um that they got

837
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: out in front of that reactor. With that reactor, you

838
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: can't even walk away from it and it's got water boiling. Yeah. Uh, yes,

839
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: there's a good tip for you. Um, if your if

840
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: your pocket rocket breaks down. I'm trying to think of

841
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: one other tip I could give for you. I guess, man,

842
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go out for a little tour, just

843
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: bring enough so that you can stay the night, you know,

844
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: maybe bringing like an ultra light tent like Ben was saying,

845
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: or maybe even just a tarp to get underneath and

846
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: a sleeping bag. You know, with just those things and

847
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: like a little bit of extra food, you can always

848
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: at least just do a quick bivvy and that way

849
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to you spend you know, I realize

850
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: that more and more every year. It's like, as soon

851
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: as you're in there more than a couple of miles,

852
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, if it's anything more than an hour walk

853
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: each direction, you're so much better off, man, just plopping down, resting,

854
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: eating and being right where the critters are in the morning.

855
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Um yeah, you know, as opposed to have to walk

856
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: all the way back out because it never fails. You

857
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: get back and you have a couple of beers, and

858
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: then that motivation to get up as early as you

859
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: need to get up to get back out there and

860
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: be there on time starts to wane, and it's uh,

861
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: it's just so much easier and slicker to stay the

862
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: night out there. You know. Yeah, Yeah, that's why you know,

863
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: you gotta go into it. At the very least, you

864
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: gotta go into it with this idea that you got

865
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: it your it's this utilitarian idea like, oh, I can

866
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: go back to the truck. I got a cooler full

867
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: of beer, some chairs and a camp fire. That's great.

868
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: But if the hunting tells me I need to spike

869
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: out biv out, I'm gonna do it. Yeah. And you

870
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: might hit one, you know, late and not find it,

871
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: and you know, another good reason to stay out, or

872
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: you find him and you know you're not. You don't

873
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: want to no reason to go pack it out in

874
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, especially that late in the year.

875
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: Just you know, sleep next to the carcass and pack

876
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: it out in the morning, you know, when you're fresh

877
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: and you can see where you're going and don't twist

878
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: an ankle um. And I will tell you man, from

879
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: living in Texas the time that I did and being

880
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, spend some time around the b h A

881
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: chapter that's based there in Texas. There are a lot

882
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: of people doing what you're doing, going from Texas to

883
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: Colorado or Texas to Idaho or Montana or wherever. Um,

884
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: so there's a community of people down there, certainly, if

885
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: if you're not already connected with the b h A

886
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: chapter down there, I know for sure there's guys in

887
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: that chapter, whether it's the Dallas you know. I know

888
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of closer to where you are justin um

889
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: or where I was in Austin. It's a pretty common

890
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: thing because obviously there's not a lot of public hand

891
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: held counts happening in old Texas. Yeah, so it's it's

892
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: quicker to run and do what you're doing and run

893
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: to Colorado. So the resources certainly are there with b

894
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: h A specifically for this justin Do you have any

895
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: specific questions that we we didn't hit on, anything specific

896
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: we can touch on before you go. Uh No, I

897
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: mean that pretty much covers it. Like I said, I've

898
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: talked to band you guys doing sent job, and you know,

899
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: any other resource you look at, you know, shows you

900
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: how to how to find out there, hopefully found him

901
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: and put them down. I've just saw it too. More

902
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: curious on y'all VND Uh you know, I can't you

903
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: touched on using a camper shell and your pickup truck

904
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: and those kind of details. Uh, you know, you just

905
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: don't really see. You can talk to anybody about ltcoming.

906
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about the chase, but not so

907
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: much how they got there and how they stayed there

908
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: and what made it an effect upon it. Um, that's

909
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: what you know. That's kind of why I wrote into

910
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: Ben was just curious about those types of things you

911
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: see you get on Instagram. There's a million different storage

912
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: ideas with deck solutions or chuck vaults and chance for

913
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: the camper shelves and all that kind of stuff. So

914
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: I was just kind of curious to get Shell's opinions

915
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: and what makes it successful for you guys. Yeah, let

916
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: me tell you what my dream. I'll tell you what

917
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: my dream is. What I don't what I don't currently

918
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: have but I really want to do, is I want

919
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: to deck system in my truck and I want to

920
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: go fast camper top topper. You know about that, Yehnnie,

921
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: I've heard of them, so yeah, go fast Camper. You

922
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: can look it up. It's it's a topper, but it

923
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: also has a built an integral a built in tent.

924
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: It's like a forty degree angle pop up tent. It

925
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: has temperpedic panels. I rented a truck that had this

926
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: one time, like temp repedic panels. You pop the panels out,

927
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: you can stand up basically in the back of your truck.

928
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: So if you were had a deck system for all

929
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: your gear and then you had this camper top, you

930
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: literally would be you'd have a mobile, you know, in

931
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: terms of drive your truck, parket, pop the camper up,

932
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: and you're sleeping. That's my That's that's where I'm headed

933
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: because I think that that's the only reason I'm not

934
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: too sold on the tents in the truck though, is

935
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: that I feel like oftentimes I'm using the truck to

936
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: hunt in the morning, right, Like if you know for

937
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: a fact every single time you go out and you're

938
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: just like, well, I'm just gonna get up and then

939
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: walk away from the truck and go on my hunt. Great,

940
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't. It just seems like after two

941
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: days of hunting, you're like, well that we hunted around here.

942
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: Now we have to walk two miles from here to

943
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: to get into the critters. That's where I think the

944
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: camper I don't know, it's always a trade up, right,

945
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: because the campers you can't pull into quite the gnarliest

946
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: places that you can just drive your truck into, but

947
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: like a small size camper that you could just unhitch

948
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: and leave and make a camp and then you keep

949
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 1: using your rig to drive around and do some hunting. Yeah,

950
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: I've thought about this a lot. This might help you

951
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: justin certainly making those types of decisions like dragging a

952
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: trailer to where we were in the Missouri Breaks. I

953
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: could get my truck around with almost no problem, but

954
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't dragging a trailer. Clay Nucolm trying to drag

955
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: his mules and a trailer and got about a third

956
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: of the way down the road where we ended up camping. Um.

957
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: But the GFC literally to to take down the tent,

958
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: you just grab the top bar and pull it down

959
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: and snap it in place, and you're done. You're done.

960
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: You're done, and it's quick. The only the only thing

961
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: that I would say that is negative from a couple

962
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: of days I got to use it, is that it's

963
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: like a bit of a wind sock. Like if you're

964
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: up on a ridge and it's windy, you're sitting up

965
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: on top of your truck and you know that wind,

966
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: so you just have to find a place where that

967
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: exposure is not you know, get your wind direction right

968
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: and kind of park down and get a ridge to

969
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: block the tent or something like that, because if you

970
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: park up on a you know, spine of a ridge

971
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: or something to try to camp, you're gonna be sleeping

972
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: in a wind sock. Where where's the tent on the ground.

973
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: Not too much. You can maybe even pull your truck

974
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: sometimes I do to drive to block my tent where

975
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: the winds coming from, to block the fire and the tent,

976
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: to keep the wind from blowing things about. So a

977
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: lot of things to think of, man, And I know,

978
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, like Ronella has a camper now, doesn't he um?

979
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: Like guys like Callahan, he just he could sleep anywhere

980
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: he sleeps. He sleeps in the back of his truck. No,

981
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff is fine and danny until it actually

982
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: gets cold and hitty and wet out. And then that's

983
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: when campers and tents with stoves and stuff. You got it. Like,

984
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna get dry and comfy again, man,

985
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: that motivation is gonna wane real quick. So you know,

986
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: maybe look at the ten day forecast, you know, and

987
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: do you have a trailer to drag with you if

988
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: you need if you want to, Oh, yeah, we've got

989
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: access to one. Yeah. Our plan was to kind of

990
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: take We've got like a little troll foot untility trailer.

991
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: You're just gonna you know, throw coolers and everything we

992
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: need on there. And you know, I think most of

993
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: the area that we're in we can get close and

994
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: we can find a somewhere to camp that we can

995
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: get that trailer into and kind of branch off from there.

996
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: There you go, there, you go there. Yeah, if you

997
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: know that, you know, we were talking about this last

998
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: week transient transient hunting, you kind of have to got

999
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: to know the score before you go for sure. And

1000
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you from working at Yetie, most of the

1001
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: questions that I got in terms of coolers, just what

1002
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: size cooler fits an elk was probably the number one

1003
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: question I got. I said, well, it depends on what

1004
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: how the elk is situated once you've cut it up.

1005
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: But the YETI two ten is the cooler that I use.

1006
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: I would recommend it to everyone. It is as important

1007
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: as anything. I mean, we've seen de bone No A

1008
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: two ten. You can probably I've gotten debone front shoulders

1009
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: and two on the bone hams with all the rest

1010
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: of the meat into two ten before. I've never tried

1011
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: all four quarters, but I'm pretty sure you can make

1012
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: it happen, depending on how much ice you had, how

1013
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: big an elk it was, but I'm almost sure you

1014
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: can make it happen with the two ten, and you

1015
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: couldn't do it with any other side cooler that they have.

1016
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: Um and and you know where I'm from, Maryland and Pennsylvania,

1017
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: these guys will hook up a generator and a chess

1018
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: freezer and drag it out on a trailer pretty commonly. No,

1019
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: that's a that's a real slick way to do it, man,

1020
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: So you can certainly do that. But if you want

1021
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: to just have a more utilitarian cooler set up, I

1022
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: think a YETI two ten, while expensive, will do the

1023
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: job twice over. I hope that helps justin Yeah, yeah,

1024
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: it does. Like I said, there's in this quick discussion,

1025
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: there's obviously a million different ways to do it, but

1026
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: just kind of curious what works for you guys, And

1027
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: like Ben said, you know what you would like to

1028
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: do someday, And for us, it's what a teen hours

1029
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: from home, so we can't just runt of the garage

1030
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: and grab something if we need it. We got a

1031
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: haul at all. So we're just curious different ways to

1032
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: do different storage solutions, and that's your definitely some good

1033
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: ideas to run with, beautiful man. Well, once you get

1034
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: it dialed in, it feels good. You kind of know,

1035
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: you know what you have to do and what what

1036
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: you need to bring it. Don't need to bring the

1037
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: cakes a couple of times to dial that in, but

1038
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: once you get there, it feels good. So thanks for

1039
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: calling in to ask the eagle. Man, Um, good luck

1040
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: and let us know how she goes. We'll do it.

1041
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, you'll have a great week alright, justin

1042
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: see about good luck. Thanks bright. Hello, This just Trent, Trent,

1043
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: Ben O'Brien, Joanni P tell Us and Phil the engineer TRP.

1044
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: What's going on? Say? Hey Phil, Hey Trent, how are

1045
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: you good? How are you guys doing good? Good? We

1046
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: get you a good time? Yeah, great man, Um, we

1047
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: have we have the Eagle here, joannest tell Us. He's

1048
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: ready and waiting to answer any queer you might have.

1049
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: So fireway, Hey, good morning, morning trip. We'll tell your mind.

1050
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: So I had a pretty gnarly knee injury this summer

1051
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: and I have a few plans for hunting this fall,

1052
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: but it looks like I'm not going to be able

1053
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: to make it out. I was just wondering, what's your

1054
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: recommendation for still getting out and enjoying fall, but also

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00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: knowing that I'm not really walking on unpaved surfaces and

1056
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: getting back deep. So you got some tags in your pocket,

1057
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: but you're you're you're you're limited. You're how much you

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00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: how far you can go from the truck? Is that

1059
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: what you're saying? Yeah, I got a buck tag, I

1060
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: got a dough tag and a Swan tag burning a

1061
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 1: hole in my pocket, but I'm not walking too far.

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00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: I see how far can you? Are you gonna be

1063
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: able to walk by the time it's hunting season at

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00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: a couple of hundred yards? Maybe you can't. You can

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00:53:55,160 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: only walk on paved surfaces supposed to whatever. Yeah, so

1066
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: going up and down hills is not recommended. Yeah, well

1067
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: your swan tag. That shouldn't be too hard, right. You

1068
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: just gotta get a blind that's close enough to where

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00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: someone can get the truck close to your blind and

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00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: walk over there. So we won't even address that. I'm

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00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: hoping you got that one figure it out as far

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00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: as your your deer tags go, though, I think you

1073
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 1: need to figure out you need to do some truck

1074
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: scouting obviously, and I think this is gonna be a

1075
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: good way for you to really get better reading sign

1076
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: because we all know that animals walk on roads, the crossroads.

1077
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: And when I say roads, I'm talking like four service

1078
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, not quite two tracks, but you know I'm

1079
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: talking about a just to gravel for service road. And

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00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, find those crossings, man, look for them. And

1081
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: then you know, look, you know, look at your on X,

1082
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: look at the terrain features around, see what that crossing

1083
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: is going to and from you know, is there you know,

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00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: betting area nearby, or some water below the road, maybe

1085
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: a saddle that is going from you know, from that

1086
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: crossing over to a saddle. Who knows what it might be.

1087
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: But I think just you know, do you learn your

1088
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: zone as best as you can by just peeking out

1089
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: your truck window looking down at the at the dirt road.

1090
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's sign all over it. Um and

1091
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: then uh, you know, trying to find those kind of

1092
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: pinch points and funnels and places where animals travel they're

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00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: just close to those roads like I said before, a

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00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: saddle man like. Critters love using saddles, and there are

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00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: definitely roads that go through saddles, under saddles near saddles

1096
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: um that you could probably you know, a saddle like

1097
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: you give people the general Yeah, sure, it's addle comes

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00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: from you know, like the saddle on a on a horse.

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00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 1: But basically a low point on a ridge on either

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00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: side is going to have higher points, so the animals

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00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: are simply taking the path of least resistance when they're

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00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: needing to cross a ridge. I mean sometimes you're talking

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00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: about crossing the whole mountain range and you're gonna like

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00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: look for a major saddle, which at that point is

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00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: called a pass through the mountains, right, But smaller versions

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00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: of that and the environment always are you know, good ways,

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00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: good places to catch critters. It seems like anytime I'm

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: hunting New country, I rolled through a saddle like, man,

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00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: this looks like a good place to hunt. Like one

1110
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: out of two times you look up in a tree

1111
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: and someone had the tree stands set up in that saddle, right,

1112
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: or you see some remnant of some somebody had hunted

1113
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: there in the past. Well, it's because it's they're always

1114
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: good spots um. But yes, you could, you know, look

1115
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: for that, you know funnels, whether it's you know, a

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00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: big piece of timber that neckt down into some all

1117
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: or timber um water near your roads, you know, would

1118
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: be good place to just because you're gonna have to

1119
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: take more of a stand hunter approach. I think this

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: fall right. You're not gonna walk far. You're gonna go

1121
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: and sit, and you need to be sitting where the

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00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: critters are gonna walk through the other thing I was

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00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: thinking too that you can employ is um. I don't

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00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: know what kind of friends and family you have that

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00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: might help you out for this rough hunting season you

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00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: got coming up, but have them orchestrates some drives. Y right,

1127
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: like the same thing. Man, you're sitting up in that

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00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: saddle that you know, you know critters are using, and uh,

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00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, figure out where the nearest betting area is

1130
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: to that saddle and see if you can't get some

1131
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, friends and family to walk through there for

1132
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: you and get some animals on on their feet and

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00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: move through there, and uh, you know that might work

1134
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: out for you. Yeah, I like that idea a lot. Actually,

1135
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if if there's been Uh, many

1136
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,479
Speaker 1: many people will uh do what we call road hunt

1137
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: and uh be very very successful. Yours truly included in that,

1138
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to analopen wyoming and things of

1139
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: that nature. I think you just kind of adopt some

1140
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: of those strategies, which is, be in the truck and

1141
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: be moving and be glassen, and eventually you'll find a

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00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: deer somewhere near a spot you can get to um

1143
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: and as Yanni said, you'd pattern it from there and

1144
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: then get yourself. You know, you know, I've been really

1145
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: impressed recently with this first Light Nemo. I don't know

1146
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: the real name of it, but I call it a

1147
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: swingy chair. You were signing one of those, Yanni. Yeah,

1148
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: I think it's like a isn't like a star Gazer

1149
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: star Gazer. I call it my son, and I call

1150
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: it the swingy chair because you can sit in this thing.

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00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's specifically would work for your injury, Trent,

1152
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: but it works for me. It's like it it just

1153
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: makes me feel enveloped in a beautiful, very comfortable material.

1154
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: And is that what it's called you you're looking it

1155
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: up the first Light. I think you're right. I think

1156
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: it's called the Star Gazer, but it would be Yeah,

1157
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: it would be wonderful for you. It's wonderful for me.

1158
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: You may put it by the road and just sit

1159
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: in it and get yourself some coffee or whatever beverage

1160
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: you like, and just and just enjoy the day. Maybe

1161
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: a deer will walk by, Ben he's trying to kill something,

1162
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: man not. Maybe that's maybe that's why all my tags

1163
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: are yet it's the star Gaze, Recliner, luxury chair, see

1164
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: luxury chair. And you know you've been through a lot, Trent.

1165
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: You need a little luxury in your life. This isn't

1166
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, some products I just fall in love with,

1167
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: you know how I feel about White Claw and things

1168
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: of that nature. So I'm I'm currently on currently on

1169
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: the snaz bare tooth boots and the first light swingy

1170
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: luxury chair. Yeah, and don't go into it with a

1171
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: positive mindset to man, and don't think that all the

1172
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: animals are you know, two miles back. Everybody else is

1173
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: hiking back there. There's a lot of critters right off

1174
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: the side of the road that watch hunters drive by

1175
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: all the time. And you're just gonna have to, you know,

1176
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: take that mindset and be knowing that they're they're looking

1177
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: for him and hunting them and just being a little

1178
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: bit slicker than the average average guy that's driving down

1179
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: the road. I think I think he'll be able to

1180
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: be successful. Man, anything else for u, his, Trent, anything

1181
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: else we can help you with. Phil's here, he's standing by.

1182
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: He knows how to play video games. Yeah, um, now

1183
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: he might have a secret code for you to unlock

1184
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: some level. Are you playing video games while you're while

1185
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: you're out recuperating, Trent? No, No, not for me. Oh good,

1186
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: I've got nothing to offer you. Then I've been time time,

1187
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time at the fly advice throwing

1188
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: up my fly boss. Hey there you go some late winter,

1189
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: early spring dry fly action right on. Phil might not know,

1190
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: but flies are like these little things that you tie

1191
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: up and use while your fly fishing to catch I

1192
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: was always wondering to look like you'll get to that

1193
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: and then hunters fisher safety when you take that. Appreciate it, Hey, Trent,

1194
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: thanks for calling in Man. We appreciate it. Thank you, Trent.

1195
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: All right, thanks, gentlemen, have a good one alright. Phil.

1196
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: The final our final caller of today is the guests

1197
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: specifically for you that we're gonna call um somebody that's near,

1198
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: so near and dear to your heart that you've have

1199
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: maligned there get out of here featuring on the show.

1200
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: Before we're gonna call such a jackass call. We're gonna

1201
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: call a good friend Eric all right now, and he

1202
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: has some questions for Joanni, but he might have something

1203
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: to say to you as well. Phil. It's hard to

1204
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: say this is a slander. He's he's a well spoke

1205
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: an individual and so we're calling him up. Give us

1206
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: Eric call. Yeah, this is Ben O'Brien and Philly Engineering

1207
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: jannest the Eagle Patellus. What's up, buddy? What's up? Eric?

1208
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: Have it going on? It's going good. Yeah, you're gett

1209
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna talk to Yanni, but first, but first, Phil

1210
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: has yet to complete his Hunter's safety and I need

1211
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: you to Yann. You know I have already kind of

1212
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: berated him a bit for that this morning, but we

1213
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: need you to get in there rough him up a

1214
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: little bit. Eric, Man, I thought Cal had the perfect

1215
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: last just finish that's right, that's right, damn it, damn it.

1216
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean Eric Hall is like, you know, the head

1217
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: of all THC listeners like the captain of the th

1218
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: HC listener and he's telling you. I'd say he has

1219
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: more authority than than than Yanni or cal Yeah, maybe

1220
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: even you. Maybe listen Eric more than you. It's good.

1221
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: It's why I'm having him on, because because he needs

1222
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: to give you the business here. Um so anything I

1223
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: think I think up a little bit. He is. He

1224
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: was upset even at the idea that we were going

1225
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: to call you, because he knew what I was gonna do.

1226
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: I think so, without further ado, I'd like to introduce

1227
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: you to the Eagle. Say hey to Eric Hall. Hey Eric, Yeah, here,

1228
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: you're a regular man. I am a regular. I'm getting

1229
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: to feel a little bit like Berry. I didn't get

1230
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: no Dan. We take you over. We love Barry, but

1231
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: Barry he's difficult, but we I will we it's long

1232
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: do that we send you some sort of item here

1233
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: for all the time you spend my gosh. Yeah, he's

1234
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: got out, gotta have a hat or something. I think,

1235
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost to the point where he needs

1236
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: his own custom merch. Yeah, i'd be an Eric, call

1237
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: that happen. Yep, that feel smart? Feel smart? It would

1238
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: just say hey, ben he Manfield. Ye, there is, Yeah,

1239
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: that's it. Where are you from your call here? I'm

1240
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina herein Yeah, but my in laws are down

1241
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: there Morehead. Okay, Yeah, that's why I go to the beach,

1242
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: to Atlantic Beach, the beach, that's where I go. I've been.

1243
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: I've been there a few times. All right, Eric, I

1244
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: like your questions, man, I would like you to start

1245
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: with your first question, your second question first, the second

1246
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: question that you wanted to ask first. I really like

1247
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, that was what's a week consistent as

1248
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: far as working for you? Being Yanni? And yeah, I

1249
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: feel if it works more than well, that's why I

1250
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: don't have time to do Hunter Safety. I'm too busy

1251
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: clean up these guys message. That's why I'm excited about

1252
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: this question because it's gonna give Phil a chance to

1253
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: explain why he hasn't finished yet the Hunter Safety. You

1254
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,959
Speaker 1: want to kick it off, Phil, Yeah, Phil, take it away.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, Okay. Well, I just like to point out

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01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: when I got hired here, it's been about a year

1257
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: and a half. I was working on two podcasts. I

1258
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: am now working on five podcasts, and I handle the

1259
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: recording of three or four of them. Yeah, I mean

1260
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: you should be getting paid two point five times as much.

1261
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: Have you gotten a raised in that time? I didn't

1262
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Speaker 1: say it. Have you gotten a raised during? That's funny

1263
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: you said that I have not? Wow? Wow, that's right.

1264
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: The listeners, the head of all T a c. Listeners

1265
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: is it's like a just go ahead and right into

1266
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: uh h and resources. But in all honestly, like people

1267
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: think of the me, the engineers just I just sit

1268
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: a ound behind his board and I hit a button

1269
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: and then when the show's over, I hit another button.

1270
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: And that's my job. But recording is actually only about

1271
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: five percent of my job. It's yeah, tell me more, Okay.

1272
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Speaker 1: After that, I put the files on a computer. I

1273
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: work on a program called pro Tools is an it's

1274
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: an audio editing software where I use a series of

1275
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: plug ins like equalization, compression, gating, unbelievable, de nois ng.

1276
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: I clean up the shows. I edit them down, make

1277
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: them a little bit tighter. Sounds like the software does

1278
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: all the work. Yeah, nope, these are like plugins. You

1279
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: didn't create the algorithms or like the code or anything.

1280
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: Did did Did Michael Jordan create the basketball? So you're

1281
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan's Eric, He's saying, he's the Michael Jordan

1282
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: of podcast engineers. That's right. I'm like and I'm also

1283
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: a layer of quality control, you know, my my job

1284
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: as as many layers. And uh. And then when when

1285
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm done with that, and I spent time with my kids,

1286
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: I reading books, and then and then I want to

1287
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: watch it. I want to why I want to watch

1288
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: He's a good father, is what he's saying, folks, a

1289
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: good dad. You know. I gotta pick and choose what

1290
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: I do with my spare time. That's right, Eric. You

1291
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: have any other further questions about the plug ins at

1292
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: Philly Man? What is your typical work week look like? Well, yeah,

1293
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: I start off, I have a hot tub at my house.

1294
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: I started. I start off with eight hours of hot

1295
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 1: tubs hot tub time. I wish I did. I gotta

1296
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: get a hot tub. Spencer new Art has a hot tub.

1297
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: He sits. That's what he does every morning. He gets

1298
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: that sounds incredible, but like it does sound gotta get that.

1299
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: They gotta get limber. Um. No, I you know, I

1300
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: do a lot of things. I don't have as a

1301
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: set of schedule as as one field t engineer because

1302
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't have as many deadlines, but I do. I

1303
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: handle this podcast, of course, all the things that related

1304
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: to it, I don't have. I book all the guests

1305
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: and make sure all the things come out right, and uh,

1306
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: of course quality control not as much as Phil, but

1307
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: I like to listen to what we've said at least

1308
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: once before you guys hear it. So I got that,

1309
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: I got Remy Warren's podcasts. If you heard Cutting the Distance,

1310
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: Remy and I work together on that, so I make

1311
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: sure I make sure that that gets out the way

1312
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: it needs to and has all the copy and and

1313
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: and has all the editorial control that we that our

1314
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: company needs to have for Cutting the Distance. So I

1315
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: spend a good bit of time each week working on that.

1316
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: I also do some writing for Col's Weekend Review, so

1317
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: some of the stuff you hear there is written by me.

1318
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: Some of the tail end, like quick hitter news pieces

1319
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: I write for Cal. Most recently, I think the one

1320
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: that aired today, I can't remember. I don't want to.

1321
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: I won't spoil it for anybody, but if you a

1322
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: lot of the writing on there, A good bit of

1323
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: the writing and the quick hitter news stuff, that's my

1324
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: contribution I also am I don't know what you'd call

1325
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: it for Back forty showrunner for Back forty, director, producer, producer,

1326
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: probably I don't know what the titols are, but kind

1327
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: of lead the creative for Back forty along with Mr

1328
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. So that's a lot of work this time

1329
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: of year. We're currently we've got six episodes. We filmed three,

1330
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: were editing two of them and writing another three of

1331
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: them all the same time. Man, not to get off

1332
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: on a side note, it's here too hard, but I

1333
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: gotta interrupt. He's got some nice bucks on that. It's

1334
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: coming a long, baby, I'm excited. Man, are you gonna

1335
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: get to hunt it this year? No? I didn't write

1336
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: myself into this episode. No, No, I'm not gonna be

1337
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: on any episode. Yeah. No, there's a couple of box

1338
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: that I'd be just super stoked to be. Oh. Man,

1339
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean from last year where there was like one

1340
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: sick looking deer walking around, now there is you know,

1341
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: eight to ten you know nice bucks there. So um,

1342
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 1: even if it's half coincidence and then half you know

1343
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: from the work he's done, like great, very very happy.

1344
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: It's clear that though some of the work he's done

1345
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: is making a difference. Some of the adding cover from

1346
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: the burn we did this spring. Some of the stuff

1347
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: you'll see in the first couple of episodes of the

1348
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: show is legitimately working. Um because a lot of the places,

1349
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: a lot of where we're seeing these bucks are in

1350
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: some of the places. We've done some work specifically to

1351
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: to add some cover for him, and so it's working.

1352
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: It's anyway, I'll work on that. We're also working currently

1353
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: on a super top secret documentary possibly, so I'm doing

1354
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: some work on that, trying to get that line though.

1355
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: Uh that may or may not come out sometime in

1356
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: the future based on one of our podcast episodes. Um,

1357
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: so that's hopefully that's still lating. And uh yeah, Deuce

1358
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: editing and writing for the website, all kinds of other

1359
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: stuff that comes up when it comes up. Um, all right, yeah,

1360
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: get him buddy, Ah Eric. I do not have a

1361
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: typical work week ever. Um. It rarely seems like there's

1362
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: two of them in a row that are the same.

1363
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: But I can tell you that when I am here

1364
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: in town, and I can call it like my office

1365
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: hours time. Um. I spent a lot of time on

1366
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: pushing the old emails and uh, you know, going to meetings,

1367
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: talking to about creative with people on different projects, whether

1368
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: it's doss about um meat Eater obviously meat Eator Hunts

1369
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: now which I'm hosting a few episodes of this fall um.

1370
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: A lot of work goes into that, writing treatments for

1371
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: those to get everybody on board with you know, what

1372
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: we expect to see out of each episode, and then

1373
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: when we're done, writing producer notes, and then we're giving

1374
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: those two editors and then working with the editors to

1375
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: then produce the final product. You know, of any kind

1376
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: of media see um Meteor podcasts sometimes takes up almost

1377
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: no no portion of my time because it's it's easy

1378
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: podcasts fodder that already know it's in my head. But

1379
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: say we have a a lineup of some authors, there's

1380
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: a lot of reading to be done, and I'm reading

1381
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: the reading man. Uh So I feel weird sometimes doing

1382
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: it for work, But there's sometimes days when I'll spend

1383
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: just reading, you know, trying to get through a book.

1384
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: So that can sound like a good interviewer and ask

1385
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: ask some good questions. I should have put that in

1386
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: my list of things that I do read books for

1387
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: the podcast. That is it is surprising. Maybe not surprisingly.

1388
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of time. No, it does for sure,

1389
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: But you gotta do it because otherwise you're just you're

1390
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: You're not doing anybody you need justice. Um. But a

1391
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: lot of just coordinating and planning logistics goes into all

1392
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: this stuff making this media. Um, you know, just finding

1393
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: places to hunt and making sure that you have location

1394
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: releases and film permits to go hunt those places. And

1395
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: I have a big team that I would work with

1396
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: here media during production that all help get all that stuff,

1397
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: you know, get all those boxes checked. Um, it's a

1398
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: lot you um, but I'm trying to think if I'm

1399
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: missing anything else. I just I just wrote some little

1400
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: paragraph to myself about what I was doing. I should

1401
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: just pulled that up. To answer your answer your question,

1402
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I do, uh Friday, about three

1403
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: thirty maybe four o'clock. Usually I'll crack open a white claw.

1404
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: Lately it's been watermelon. Yeah, man, just get you made

1405
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: me try a wall I gotta try one. Man, what flavor?

1406
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: What flavor? I think the mango because everybody talks about

1407
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: the mangoat it's not for everybody. I'm with you, Eric,

1408
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give it the full but it's not

1409
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, it's there goes our sponsorship. Yeah, now,

1410
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 1: we thought we had a We were just getting ready

1411
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: to sign. The contracts just came in. Too bad. I'll

1412
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: throw them out and they're gonna hear this and growing everything.

1413
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 1: Just so y'all like it. You know, you're getting people

1414
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: to try anyway, but you know, probably people are gonna

1415
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: like it. Well, it's got a few things. I got

1416
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: a few things to throw in here. I had sent

1417
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: in suggestion for The Meat Eater. I love all the stuff,

1418
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: y'all do I mean, I'll watch it. Got done with

1419
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: all the Netflix stuff, dos bot? I mean back forty

1420
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: I watched it all a lot of the podcasts. But

1421
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 1: I suggested one time that The Meat Eater make a

1422
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: documentary on the history of hunting. And still ain't on

1423
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: that and on that I you know, now you said

1424
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: it publicly, we kind of have to do it. Well,

1425
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: you know about the Market Hunting House, you know, and

1426
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: that may be some of the other one. But I

1427
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: couldn't never get the Stars in the Sky, having never

1428
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: been able to see that yet it's on Netflix now, Eric,

1429
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, that's gonna help you out

1430
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: because that that has a little bit it has, you know,

1431
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: like a five or ten minute bid on some of

1432
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: the history of hunting in there. Yeah, check that out

1433
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: and then get back to us and see, you know

1434
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 1: what else you'd like to hear about his history of hunting.

1435
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: That's a long, long history. We're gonna out to narrow

1436
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: it down to a certain time period. Oh yeah, yeah,

1437
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: I know. Suggesting I had that. When you do the

1438
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: Meat Eater Live podcast, pick one guest, not that I'm

1439
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 1: ever gonna be. You be an honor for anybody to

1440
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: do it. Somebody throw your name in the hat when

1441
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: you go in. If you want to do it, pick

1442
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: one guest to come up on the stage and be

1443
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: part of the podcast. I think it would be so

1444
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: cool out of the audience. Pick an audience mamber to

1445
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: come out of the podcast. Yeah yeah, it would be

1446
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: like a good way to throw a little wild card

1447
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: into it if they wanted to. I mean, if they

1448
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: may not want to do it, what if we just

1449
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: called you up every time you just traveled around with us.

1450
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: It's I could do it. I could do it all right. Well, listen,

1451
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: I like how you turn your questions into suggestions. I

1452
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: do admire. I like that because you finally, Yanny, do

1453
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: you feel like you feel like we can do that?

1454
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: Have some commentary. Yeah, we'll have to to run and

1455
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: by the by the chief, you know, Mr Runella. But

1456
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: I think I think it could be fun. I like

1457
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: this idea because I like, you know, we have Eric

1458
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: Hall on. It works out just fine. He's a great

1459
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: member of the crew. Phil hadn't said anything in five minutes.

1460
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: Heause over there on his phone. We put our first

1461
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: clips from the podcast up on YouTube. Hey man, this

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01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: is that Yanni. Yeah, I'm not kidding. We so yeah,

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01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: here you go, Eric, if you want something else to watch,

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: we just put posted some podcast clips the Mediator podcast

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01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: clips on the YouTube's check out. So yeah, you can

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01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 1: see him right where we're saying a lot of hunting shows.

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01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't say commercials and stuff. The Mediator

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01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: come along. I thought the show, well, you know, Eric

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: calls Eric Halls. Segment on the show is brought to

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01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: you by work Sharp. In fact, going to work Sharp

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01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: and uh check out how to Sharpen also brought to

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01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: you by Element. Thank you, Eric, That's very kind of

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: you to give us such high praise. Yes, very good shows. Well, listen,

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01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: we appreciate your brother and we will take those suggestions

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01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: to heart as always. And um, we'll probably talk to

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01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: you next week unless Phil tells when we can see.

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Eric hasn't been on for a couple

1478
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: of a few few weeks, a couple of months now,

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: and hasn't this been delightful to see We bring him on?

1480
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: So Air is a nice guy. He gets got stuff

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01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: to contribute. And you don't want us to have him

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: on every week, then base it out or your real

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: piece of garbage. Good to meet you, Eric, man. I

1484
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: look forward to meet you in person sometime. Yes, sir

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01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: ut question, Well you got you got all the way

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: off on suggestions alright away? Yeah, we'll let you have it.

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01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: Go for it, quick, click it up. Okay. The ttion

1488
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: was you could only have one gun, one caliber, one gauge,

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01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: one action one one gun to shoot squirrels the moose.

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01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: What would it be Uh if I choose like twelve

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01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: gauge shotgun? Can I have multiple barrels? Oh, you're on

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01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: my track. You're on the right track. I'm gonna tell

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01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: you what mine needs all right. Well, yeah, that's That's

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01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: my answer is I'm gonna go with with twelve gauge

1495
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: because I believe I could kill just about everything with

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 1: a twelve gauge, especially if you allowed me to have

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01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: a rifled barrel for a slug. Is that what you

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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 1: were Eric? Okay, I was taking a polpe action twelve

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: gage shotgun. And this is the reason why you hunt squirrels,

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01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: grouse birds. I can kill a moose to cut off shale.

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01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: I guarantee it. Have you ever seen a cutshell? No,

1502
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: no tell on YouTube things are accurate, but you could

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01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: kill a moose. I mean, I'm just saying this is

1504
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: all hypothetical. Flogs. I mean, slugs are real accurate. Now,

1505
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you come down to it, you

1506
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: could do a cutshill. You can kill a deer all

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01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: day long. And then you got your burgs and you yeah,

1508
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: that's me. That's I'm picking up with your laying down.

1509
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: I like it. You were kind of curious what y'all

1510
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: would think, and I kinda figured Johnny would do the

1511
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: twist game. I was gonna say, you were talking about

1512
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: me having a show on a podcast. That's a horrible idea.

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01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: Eric Hall should have a shower show. Yeah, that'd be

1514
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: called Eric Hall here, that's all it would be. It

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: would be calling show. We're working our way there, we're

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: working our way there. I was I was gonna say

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: the same thing. I was gonna say, one of those

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01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: uh double barrels, that's a twenty two, and uh, that's

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01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: what I was thinking of. But then I would that's good,

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01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of odd ball. But yeah, that's that's

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01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: a good gun. You can get that thing. Yeah, I

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be killing any moose for that. So I

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01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: think I feel like, Eric, you're in Yanni's I feel

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: like that's the way to go. If you can get

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01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: a rifle, slug barrel. Yeah, you're you're you can take

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01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: anything from moose to squirrels and it's no problem. Good.

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01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I think you asked that question only because

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01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 1: you you had your own answer. Well, I want to

1529
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm part of that's right. I love it. All right, Eric, Well,

1530
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: have a good week. We'll talk to you probably next week,

1531
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: and let's fill nix. Is it it's not true? That's right, Phil,

1532
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: get her all right. Eric, we'll talk to you soon. Man.

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01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: We'll put a hat in the mail. Too. We'll do that,

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01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: all right, brothers, talk to you soon, you kid, but

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01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: that he's my favorite Johnnie he is. Yeah, so you've

1536
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: got But you have other regular callers or no, we

1537
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: have some also nobody is robust. Is there a call

1538
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: know that guy is a gym? Yeah, the other the

1539
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: other we have others that you know, the folks that

1540
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: got engaged. It called in and and different things. Always

1541
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 1: forget people's names and how to pronounce them. We have

1542
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: a Lias tour Hayden as a regular email and I

1543
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: just like that because I like his name. No, I

1544
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 1: could tell man, I'd like to, you know, do some hunting,

1545
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: have a beer with and uh yeah. Other regular listeners,

1546
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: I would shout out Don Willemott. He's never been on,

1547
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: but he always emails in and I do enjoy his emails,

1548
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: although I don't know how many we've read, but I

1549
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: do enjoy Don came prepared, which is which is very nice. Eric,

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01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 1: Eric he rocks. It'll tell you what I'll do before

1551
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: you've got the answer. The Lord. All right, Well, we're

1552
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna keep you guys updated on our hunting. What's your

1553
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 1: what's the hunting from now? I know you have your

1554
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 1: hunt with your dad coming up October. October is about

1555
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: to begin. Yeah, we're going antelope hunting uh in Wyoming

1556
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: with a very special guest. Keep an eye on everybody's

1557
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: instagram here in the first week of October, you guys

1558
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: will see what we're who were hunting prong Horn with

1559
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 1: Wyoming is gonna be super fun. That's gonna be a

1560
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: meteor episode. Then I got a prong horn hunt with

1561
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: my brother in law. It's gonna be a metetor hunt's

1562
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: episode which I have to hunt a unit that has

1563
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of private land that's very difficult to

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01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: get on, let alone get filming permission on. And uh

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01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: where is it? Tell me later? Tell me later. I

1566
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: have some ideas south central Montana. Um, it's gonna be difficult,

1567
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 1: difficult to say, at least because the national forest in

1568
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: this unit that was in it last weekend. It's not

1569
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: wrong country will but yeah, and then I have my big,

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 1: big montanable l hunt where yeah, I drew a special

1571
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: tag and uh, I've got ten days set aside to

1572
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 1: go find me a big and I gotta I gotta

1573
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: figure out points in Montana because I know you can

1574
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: buy them up to September. Try to get after it.

1575
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: I gotta get after it because I'm gonna need on

1576
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: these points. Well, phil and I will offer our our

1577
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: backs and our legs to help you pack out. If

1578
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: you kill one. Well it's four hours away, that's right,

1579
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: You're more welcome to come and help. Phillis tell me

1580
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: other days like I would love to spend more time

1581
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: with you in a truck for four for an eight

1582
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: hour round trip. I was like, hey, that was that

1583
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: was between us. Sorry, I'm sorry, but anyway, Um, I'm

1584
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: just gonna keep trying to fill tags. I got antalop

1585
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: tag Wyoming, and I got all the tags in Montana

1586
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: that just don't seem to want to I want to

1587
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: go on. I got Idaho. Focus on that. That's what

1588
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: you gotta do, and I'm going to do it. You

1589
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of time. Look, you look out there

1590
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: on the Instagram and you see all the success What

1591
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: this show is gonna show? You don't what my Instagram?

1592
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the failures? Okay, and you got

1593
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: to remember you got to remember, man, that all those

1594
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: successful pictures, that's what is the I don't know what

1595
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: the national elk. Well, we've been throwing is I bet

1596
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: it's ten to twenty. It's somewhere in there. I've heard

1597
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: lately in the last five years that biologists are saying

1598
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: that the success trade is going up because people are

1599
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: getting good and you know, equipment is getting better. But

1600
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: either way, whether you whether it's or nine, people are

1601
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: in the same boat as you are and going home

1602
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: empty handed, tired, worn out. And that's uh, that's one

1603
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 1: of the Dell conton is I'm your champion, I'm your champion.

1604
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: Were And we're gonna talk about here, like in our

1605
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: in our roundtable about wound loss and wounding animals and

1606
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: archery and all the things that go into that, and

1607
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: we'll talk about all that. We'll kind of cover off

1608
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: on our own personal experiences what it feels like when

1609
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: you're sitting up overnight thinking about is this bull dead?

1610
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: Is this buck dead? Whether or not you know, and

1611
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: even in Phil's situation, when when you introduce somebody to hunting,

1612
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: is that the best way to do it? You know?

1613
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: Or as we've probably talked about it this show and

1614
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: other shows, is it better to take them out on

1615
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: a duck hunt or a squirrel hunt or a rabbit

1616
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: hunt or something that has is a bit more interactive

1617
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: and has a success ratio that's you know that it's

1618
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: a it's multitudes, So it could be it could be

1619
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: that you missed the first rabbit, but another one runs

1620
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: by and you kill it. It's not one single tag,

1621
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: um as it is with an elk or a deer

1622
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: or something like that. So we'll cover all of that.

1623
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: I think that's is certainly important to us, to me um,

1624
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: and it's it's relevant now because people are going out

1625
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: there and trying their best to fill tags and um.

1626
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: You know how much I trust those numbers about success,

1627
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I certainly know that there is

1628
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: a threshold where when you cross it, you have though

1629
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: that set of skills to be successful. Whatever the pursuit

1630
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: it is you, you should be able to replicate that success,

1631
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, but you have to get to that threshold

1632
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: and cross it. That takes time, dedication, It takes a

1633
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 1: lot of stuff to get there, a lot of time,

1634
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: a lot of time, and even at even like you said,

1635
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,560
Speaker 1: even like you said that, I think it's probably a

1636
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: poignant moment there even when you cross that threshold and

1637
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: you get to the point where you think you're very

1638
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: capable in this pursuit. Something happens and knocks you back

1639
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: a few and you feel like you have to to

1640
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: retread all the steps you've taken to get to that point.

1641
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: So a lot to do, but a lot to do

1642
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: th HC. At some point then we will have a

1643
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: very interesting conversation with paulish here, one of the top

1644
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: animal rights activists around and um, someone who you're gonna

1645
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: want to hear from, and so we will. We will

1646
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: make a decision whether to to give you the what

1647
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: Phil would probably call the shitty audio or wait for

1648
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: the good audio. But at some point in the next

1649
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: couple of weeks you're gonna get it one way or

1650
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: the other. You're also gonna get our awesome round table

1651
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: on wounding loss, the personal and more data driven aspects

1652
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: of that. Fred I Claire coming up, talking about being

1653
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: a guide, talking about getting the slam with his his

1654
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 1: stick bow, his traditional bow, all kinds of stuff coming

1655
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: up on th HC in October. Stick with us. We'll

1656
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: see you next week, say by Phil, you know, because

1657
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: I can't go a week without doing run, without rut

1658
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:29,839
Speaker 1: drinking