1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Hi, this is call Hamil's Welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Welcome to The Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Jim Salisbury, toddsile like it is the morning after Game 4 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: one of the twenty twenty four nlds. 5 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Are you prepared to get the disaster? 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: Are you prepared to be depressed? 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 1: We'll try to. 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: That's a great way to put a Jim. 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: You know, I think we all had some I mean 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: I think everybody who's watched this season developed both here 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia and with the Mets, has had some trepidation 12 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: going into this series. And you know, after Game one, 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: if you're a little anxious about this series, how do 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: you feel now? 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: I was watching, I mean, we're all watching that game yesterday, 16 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: and as the game is games going on, I'm like, man, 17 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: Wheeler is unbelievable, but man, they're going to need another run. Man, 18 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: They're gonna need another run. Man, They're gonna need another run. 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, I listen when he hit that home run, 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: I thought, I actually thought to myself, this is kind 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: of strange. They may not get another hit. And they 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: almost didn't. Yeah, they almost did not What did they 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: get five hits. 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, five hits, and four of them were on the 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: eighth inning or later. 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I don't get it. Well, 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: I guess I do, because here, here's my here's my 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: sort of my summation of it. They have really really 29 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: dangerous The Phillies have very dangerous hitters. They don't have 30 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: great hitters. Right Bryce Harper might be the only great hitter. 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: They don't have guys who grind out at bats. There's 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: no grinders in the entire lineup. They can do damage. 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: Each one of them can hit a home run, each 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: of them can hit a double, each of them can 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: drive the ball. But they don't grind out at bats. 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: They don't have a Gene Segura type but Plasido Polanco type. 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: They don't have that guy in the lineup that will 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: grind out in the bats. They have slashers and hackers. 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: And you know when you when you swing a lot 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: and you swing out of the zone a lot, you 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: can really be exploited. And that's what we've seen in 42 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. Is what we saw 43 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs, is what we're seeing right now. 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: And hopefully they can figure out and make an adjustment, 45 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: so they know it, they know that they're swinging out 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: of the zone and they're not having a whole lot 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: of success with it. 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: So this season, the Phillies chase rate, that's pitches that 49 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: they swing at out of the strike zone, out of 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: the game day strike zone, was thirty point three percent. 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: Last year games three through seven of the NLS that 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: was the disaster stretch, it was thirty six percent. And 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: if I did the search correctly on Baseball Savant this morning, 54 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: they were at thirty three percent yesterday in game one, 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: So right in the middle of horrific nlcs finish to 56 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: their season average, which is just to tick over thirty percent. 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: So and let's not forget you know, the Mets were 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: flailing at Zach Wheeler. Through through seven innings, they had 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: thirty swing and misses, unbelievable against Zach Wheeler. It's just that, 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes in any sporting event, any game at 61 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: the professional level, there's that one window where a team 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: wins the game and a team loses the game. And 63 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: the Mets went out won it with an inning that 64 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: the Phillies are incapable of having. You know, they had walks, 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: they had sacrifice flies, they had five singles. 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: They didn't have to. 67 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: Hit the ball over the wall to rally. They had 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: tremendous grinding at bats. You know, five of their guys 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: were oh two and they either produced a hit, walk, 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: or a sacrifice fly. Phillies couldn't put them away. So 71 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: and you know, after the game, you know, I poked 72 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: my head into the interview room and listened to Nimo 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: and Vanto's talk, and they both talked about, you know, 74 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: you don't have to swing big, just you know, make 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: something small happen. Put the bat on the ball, hand 76 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: the baton off, grinding at bat, and and and their 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: manager Carlos Mendozo talked about the same things that they've 78 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: been doing that all year. And I just don't think 79 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: think the Phillies. I mean, they can do it at times, 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: but they they don't do it consistently. And it was 81 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: it was glaring to watch the Mets have an ending 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: like that and just say to yourself, this Phillies teams 83 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: incapable of having that inning. And that's what cost them 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: last year in the postseason. It's what cost them at 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: times this season when they'd have those long offensive shutdowns, 86 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: and it's it's what cost them in Game one. Here 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: they were incapable of putting together any type of offense 88 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: other than other than Schwarber's bomb in the first inning. 89 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: That was that was electrifying and exciting. But that was 90 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: about all that was other than Zach Wheeler, you know, 91 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: to cheer about. They get a lead off walk in 92 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: the fifth inning. Boom, boom, boom, top of the articles 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: out one, two, three. 94 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Jim, I was gonna say, you know, Jim, 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: you mentioned what the Mets were saying in the interview room. 96 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: And then Harper postgame was asked about what happened, and 97 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: the quote was, it's the same thing man, chasing balls 98 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: in the dirt didn't work deep int accounts like we 99 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: should have. We've got to understand what they're trying going 100 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: to try to do to us and flip the switches 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: and offense immediately. And then he was asked mac Elbastam, 102 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: you know what do you think the Mets are trying 103 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: to do to you? Well, they're going to try to 104 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: bury stuff and try to get us as chase as 105 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: much as possible. And they all talked about it after 106 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: the game. You know, Bryce, Trey Turner, Nick Castianos. 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and why would you throw Harper a strike? 108 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they're not getting much He's not getting much 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: protection when you got Castianos behind him, very prone to 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: Chase in the middle of the order, not making much 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: contact ahead of Harper, with Turner really prone to Chase, 112 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: had one of those games. So it's like, you know, 113 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: it's a real handicap in that lineup point when they're not, 114 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, having the type of games they're capable of, 115 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: but they're very easy to pitch to and be exploited. 116 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Nothing becomes more glaring about how you're supposed to 117 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: play fundamental baseball than in the playoffs. Okay, the things 118 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: that you need to do and have to do to 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: be successful in the playoffs. That watch the Baltimore Kansas 120 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: City series. They tried to bunt, they got big base hits, 121 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: they pitched, they played unbelievable defense. All the things that 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: are necessary to do in baseball, the fundamental things to do, 123 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: making contact, having quality at bats, throwing strikes, all the 124 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: things that you need to do to have success. Those 125 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: are fundamental, basic things that have to happen in the game. 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: They are not no longer taught all that much. But 127 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: the Mets are doing it, and they have been doing 128 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: it for a while now. They've been doing it from 129 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: the time they became accountable to each other, from May 130 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: twenty ninth on when they have that big meeting, and 131 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: so they've committed to doing that now. The Phillies have 132 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: out talented teams for a long long time. They've out 133 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: talented them because they've really really talented, but they haven't 134 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: out baseball teams. And that's what you need to do 135 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. The Mets had eight singles. That's it. 136 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: Eight singles. Single counts, guys. It doesn't have to be 137 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: a homer. It doesn't have to be a slug For 138 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: the Phillies, it sort of does because they don't string 139 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: those singles together, like Jim said, and they feast on 140 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: mistakes by the pitchers. And when you're executing and you 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: have a game plan and you're in the playoffs and 142 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: the hitters aren't making the adjustment to do that, then 143 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: you're in trouble in the playoffs. And it's not really 144 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: just the situation where you're chasing like the two strike pitch. 145 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: It's chasing the one o pitch, it's chasing the two 146 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: o pitch. It's chasing the two to one pitch that's 147 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: out of the zone and not waiting for the pitch 148 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: to be in the zone to drive. Because they didn't 149 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: even make good quarrel contact yesterday, I don't know. They 150 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: only hit like one ball over one hundred miles an 151 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: hour or two, and there were I think they were both. 152 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: One was shore shore. 153 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Schober's home run obviously was crushed, and then they did 154 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: not hit a ball over ninety five miles an hour 155 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: until the eighth inning. I think it was maybe the 156 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: Castillanos have a single in the eighth I think that 157 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: might have been the next one. 158 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that Harper hit the ball down the right 159 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: field line, that might that. 160 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that was that was actually just under night, 161 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: under ninety five. But my point being though that from 162 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: Schwarbert until the eighth inning, they did not hit a 163 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: single ball hard, So you couldn't even use that like 164 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: we squared up a few balls hard. They just didn't 165 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: fall in for hits. There was no solid contact, there 166 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: was no barreling, there was nothing nothing like that. 167 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: You mentioned the Mets been doing it for a while, 168 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: and you mentioned the team meeting and the account accountability 169 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: to each other. It's just one thing. It really strikes me. 170 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: Since these two teams saw each other in London, and 171 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: since they departed London, the Mets are twenty six games 172 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: over five hundred, including last night's win. The Phillies are 173 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: just two games over five hundred in that span. 174 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I think that's dramatic. It's pretty significant, there's no question 175 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: about it. And the only other thing I will talk about, 176 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: or the one other thing I'll talk about, is the 177 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: fact that the bullpen. You start talking about some of 178 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: that time off. I think the bullpen really struggled with 179 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: that because these are guys. Guys in the bullpen, I 180 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: think need to throw a lot. They have to keep 181 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: themselves fresh and to keep themselves sharp. I think that 182 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: they really struggle when they don't pitch a lot and 183 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: it's been five days since they competed or six days 184 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: since they've been competed, and they got into a situation 185 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: where they just couldn't make their pitches when they needed 186 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: to make pitches. Strom was over the plate far too much, 187 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: which he does a lot, which is something that's a 188 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: little dangerous. He doesn't expand the zone, and Hoffman like 189 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: expanded too much because he wasn't real sharp with his 190 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: breaking stuff, and I wasn't able to command that stuff. 191 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: So you have that combination, and you know, you got 192 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: to give the Mets credit. They took advantage of that. 193 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: That was almost the inning for me. Where I'm going, Man, 194 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: maybe this Maybe the Mets are the team of destiny 195 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: because Jeff Hoffman and Matt strom pitching the same inning 196 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: and neither of them can finish it. 197 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: That's that happened. That's never happened. 198 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: That's never that's never happened. 199 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: And what does that do for it? 200 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: And they were all ahead of the they were all ahead. 201 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: They all got ahead. It's not like they were It's 202 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: not like Hoffman was He's down three to zero and 203 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: three to one and two to one. He was down 204 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: oh one, or he was up all one oh two one, 205 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: and then he kept hanging sliders, missing with his slider 206 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: and stromp didn't put anybody away. 207 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: What does that do for the Mets confidence? They took 208 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: it to the Phillies' two best relievers. That has to 209 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: you know, the confidence was high coming in. That just 210 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: has to take it to another level. 211 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: And they did it in different ways. So they got 212 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: ahead in both those guys Okay and Lindor had a 213 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: great at bat of staying in it. But some of 214 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: those pitches when he got to two were non competitive pitches. 215 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean not even close. Those are pitches that were 216 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: balls out of the hand. He ticked the one and 217 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he made contact with That was good 218 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: to bounce up there at about fifty feet and he 219 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: made contact with it. But the rest of those pitches 220 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: in that at bat were not even competitive. Now on 221 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: the flip side, Stromp just kept pounding the zone and 222 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: pounding the zone. He went. He went two on Nimo 223 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: and two sliders that were and he made him look 224 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: silly on a couple of sliders, the first one especially, 225 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: and then he throws a fastball literally right down the 226 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: middle of the plate. So they did it in different ways, 227 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: and that's the kind of stuff that that really can't happen. 228 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: And it also tells you that they weren't really sharp 229 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: or they weren't really you know, focused on what they 230 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: needed to do. 231 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: So the way Nimo just laid the bat out there, 232 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: yeah that was bat out there and filate it to 233 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: left field, it was like, I'm not going to try 234 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: to you know, hit a gapper here, I'm going to 235 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: try to just make solid contact somewhere and boom right 236 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: to left field. 237 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 5: And I don't know when the switch came, but when 238 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: I was with those guys in seventeen, excuse me, in 239 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 5: eighteen and nineteen as a coach, their philosophy was totally different. 240 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 5: That philosophy back then was lift and separate, hit the 241 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: ball out of the ballpark. 242 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: Swing out of your ass, and try to hit the 243 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: ball out of the ballpark. It doesn't matter what count. 244 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: It is. Well, look how different this is. Look how 245 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: different the approach is right now. And it's not necessarily 246 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: about hitting the ball out of the ballpark. It's about 247 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: putting in and play. I don't know what you know. 248 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: It was a totally different hitting coach and it was 249 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: also also a totally different regime and hitting philosophy. But 250 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: look how much success they have doing this as opposed 251 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: to what they were doing before. 252 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: Guys several on both sides, several players mentioned the shadows. 253 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: How much of a fact do you think that was? 254 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: Well, Nick Castiano said, he talked a little bit about it, 255 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: and and here's the quote. I mean, yeah, so like 256 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: when when Castiano's started talking about I was like, oh boy, 257 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: I can just see Philly Spans are going, Oh they're 258 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: blaming the shadows. They're blaming the shadows. But I mean 259 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: Bientto's mentioned it, right, and then JD. Martinez, I use 260 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: this quote in my story about Zach Wheeler said in 261 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: terms of his dominance, he said, you could see it, 262 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: especially with the shadows early on. It's just like, dude, 263 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: this guy's throwing a paper airplanes up there, you know. 264 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: So it was it was definitely a factor. And one 265 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: thing I did not know this guys. Do you guys 266 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: probably know this. The shadows apparently are the worst when 267 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: the pitcher is completely in shadows and the background, the 268 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: hitting background, it's lightly bright. Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. So 269 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: I mean I did not know that. So my thing is, Okay, 270 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: the shadows are going to be the same to day. 271 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: I think it's supposed to be nice in Game two. 272 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: Is supposed to be sunny in game two. So now 273 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: you're the Phillies. You didn't have great at bats yesterday. 274 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: Trade Turner spent a half hour after the game in 275 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: the batting cage looking overs at bats, and everybody's frustrated, 276 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: and you've been asked a million questions about Chase, and 277 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: you're going, oh my gosh, the first seven innings, it's 278 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: going to be more of the same. How are we 279 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: going to put how are we going to put together 280 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: good at bats? 281 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: Guys, here, let me just say something to you. Okay, 282 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I have been in the shadows when I've played. I 283 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: played against Pedro Martinez one time in the shadows. It 284 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: was it was a nightmare. Honestly, it was really difficult, 285 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: I bet, because basically what you're seeing is a sphere 286 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: and you don't really see spin. You don't really see 287 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: the baseball. You just see a sort of a gray sphere, 288 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and so it's difficult to make the adjustments. Obviously. Here's 289 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: what I don't understand. In today's day and age, where 290 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: they have amazing technology, they have glasses, they have sunglasses. 291 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I would at times wear sunglasses and I could see 292 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit better. I don't understand. If 293 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: you look at the game, there was one player who 294 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: wore glasses to hit. Guess what his name was, Kyle Schwarber. 295 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: So I got to believe that you have to put 296 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: either put glasses on. I know it's uncomfortable, you have 297 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: to make some sort of adjustment, you know, drastic measures. 298 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean drastic times, drastic measures. If you can't see 299 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: the baseball, then put some sunglasses on there. But there's 300 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: so many different polar polarizations of the oak Ley's and 301 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: all these other gargoyles and whatever. I don't even know 302 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: what the names of the glasses are, but they have 303 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: different shades to help like brighten up the ball or 304 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: see the ball differently. I would absolutely, unequivocally try anything 305 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: I possibly could. What what do you have to lose. 306 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't see the baseball and you're 307 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: not gonna make contact, then try something different. And so 308 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean kys Shwarmer had glasses on, you know, home 309 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: runners versus bat and I know it was a fastball 310 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: right down in the middle and he was lucky he 311 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: got it, but he also got a base hit or 312 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: you know later on. I mean, why not give it 313 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: a shot. I mean, there's a reason why the guy's 314 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: got glasses on. I gotta believe, and so maybe maybe 315 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: he sees the ball a little bit better. Just a thought. 316 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good, it's a good thought. I just feel 317 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,359 Speaker 3: like this team has a lot weighing on its mind. 318 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: On his shoulders from the you know, the star power 319 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: and the nucleus and the big payroll in the last 320 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: two postseasons and the expectations and they got to do 321 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: it now and it's World Series or bust. And now 322 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the chase and the swing and 323 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: miss rears its head and the offense goes and that's 324 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: just another thing weighing on their mind. And oh, by 325 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 3: the way, uh, the shadows. It's just it's, you know, 326 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: you've got to be so focused a hit and I 327 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: just wonder if this team has a million things turned 328 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: in its head and that just you know, you know, 329 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: makes it very difficult to to perform at your best. 330 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they're pushing, maybe it's maybe it's weighing on them. 331 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: That said, not only that, but now they have this, 332 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, they're basically their season riding on this young man, 333 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: Christopher Sanchez's shoulders, which was my concern from the very 334 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: beginning that if they lost the first game, that it's 335 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: not gonna be Nola, that it's gonna be Sanchez. And listen, 336 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: I hope to God that for for the Philly's sake 337 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: and for me as a fan, that this kid performs, 338 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: and I know that Topper has a tremendous amount of 339 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: confidence in this kid and needs come a long, long way. 340 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: But this is a huge, huge game. I mean, this 341 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: is not This young man will never unless he pitches 342 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: the seventh game of a World Series or of a NLCS, 343 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be, he may not pitch 344 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: another big the biggest game, a bigger game in his career. 345 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: And I really hope he steps forward. He's matured in 346 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: an amazing way. I love him, I love everything about him. 347 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: I love what's happened to his career. But boy, he's 348 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: got a whole city resting on his shoulders right now 349 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: and he's going to have to feel it a little bit. 350 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: Ruben, I wanted to ask you, like, what type of 351 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: pressure does this ball club feel? I mean, you're a 352 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: Philadelphian who played for the team, work for the team. 353 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: The pressure has to be enormous. After you know, the 354 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: team has played seven or they've lost the game one 355 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: of a postseason series seven times, and all those times 356 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: they've gone on to lose the series. The pressure, what 357 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 3: do you think they're feeling? 358 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: They got to be feeling it, I mean, because they 359 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: know that they have one goal, and that's to win 360 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: the World Series. And right now they're in trouble getting 361 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: knocked out. Listen, we lived in in ten and eleven, 362 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, in ten and eleven and nine, you know what, 363 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: for us to get back and to and to play 364 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: the Yankees in the World Series, that's pretty much that 365 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: that's a win. Obviously not where you wanted to end up. 366 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: But in ten and eleven, I mean, it was very 367 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: clear that those teams they were better teams. They were 368 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: they were more talented teams. They just couldn't get passed 369 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: for the same sort of reason. They were exploited and 370 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: couldn't get past you know, their respective teams when they 371 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: were in the playoffs. So yeah, there's pressure, man, there's 372 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure. I was feeling pressure in the 373 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: in the booth, I will tell you that. And uh 374 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: and and right now there's there's gonna be some serious 375 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: pressure on these guys and hopefully they can somehow relax 376 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: enough to be able to get to Sebarino today and. 377 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: And how and how about four hours of hell just 378 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: not quite seeming like four hours of hell anymore. They've 379 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: lost now three straight postseason games at Citizens Bank Park. 380 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: The place you could not come in and win because 381 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: the fans were so suffocating. Players would just crumble. But 382 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: now the Diamondbacks did it game six and seven. The 383 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: Mets have done it in Game one. And I've mentioned 384 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: this before, guys. When we had Jeff frank koron, he 385 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: talked about Game six and seven, you could tell the 386 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: fans were tight and if they get down early, and 387 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: so if they get down early today, they'll get that 388 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: place is going to be quiet. It is that place 389 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: is going to be quiet, So they need to get up. 390 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: Really not good. 391 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: Tight is not good. And they have that Mets team 392 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: playing free and easy. 393 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because now right if the Mets lose today, 394 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: they still have home field advantage. I mean, not that 395 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: they're going to go into this wanting to lose or 396 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: you know, anything like that. But man, they must be 397 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: feeling great about their situation. 398 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: Guys. They're playing of house money right now. They're playing 399 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: with house money. I mean, they came from way back. 400 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: They played great baseball all year long. They've played like 401 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: a baseball team, a really good baseball team where no 402 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: one's really stepped forward people lines other than Lindor who 403 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: had a phenomenal season, and he sort of backed up 404 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: his words because he's stunk in the first you know few. 405 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, when we saw him in the early part 406 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: of the season, he was not horrendous and he sort 407 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: of had that meeting, and I think maybe he did 408 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: it to pump himself up because he's gone off since Sanna. 409 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: He has an MVP type year. So but other than him, 410 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: I mean, Biento's really stepped forward offensively. But there's nobody 411 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: else who really stepped forward offensively. But they played well 412 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: enough and pitched well enough to put themselves in his position. 413 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: And uh, and like I said, man, they're playing free 414 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: and easy and happened having fun and oh my god, 415 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: and all that bs it's happening. It's happening, and it's working, 416 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: and they are playing confident baseball teams. Good. 417 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: I think the Phillies need a pumpkin or something, or 418 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: maybe I got some butternuts squashed in the garden. I 419 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 3: can bring him a butternut squash. 420 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: Your publano crop has failed, No, I can bring. 421 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 3: Him some poblanos. I have a bumper crop of poblanos, 422 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: so you know. 423 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 5: Just. 424 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: Started hanging them in the dugout. 425 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do need to loosen up a little bit, 426 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: because freeing easy is way better obviously. I mean, we 427 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. I used to talk 428 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: about it with Charlie Manual used to talk about it 429 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: with Joe Madden. You have to have have fun when 430 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: you're at the plate, and you have to enjoy yourself 431 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: and have some rhythm and just enjoyment. 432 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 2: As Chase Utley would say, get the rubber duck out 433 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: of your ass, right, remember when he put the Then 434 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: Charlie put those in the dugout before series in Tampa Bay. 435 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: They got like thirty. 436 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bonnie Clark went and bought thirty rubber ducks and 437 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: stuck them in everybody's locker because that was one of 438 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: the chases chasing sayings in the dugout where you weren't 439 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: going well, get the rubber duck out of your ass. 440 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: So the Phillies absolutely need to do that, because I 441 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: will leave you this depressing number. In all best of 442 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: five postseason series, the team that wins Game one has 443 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: in this series one hundred and nine out of one 444 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two times. That's seventy two percent of 445 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: the time. But you know, so it's not like it's 446 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: ninety five percent. So you know, the and the Phillies 447 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 2: have the talent to do it. They just they did. 448 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: They've just got to they got to do something for right. 449 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the most resilient. They are the most one 450 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: of the most resilient teams. I mean that something getting 451 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: we should punch that they've They've been punched in the 452 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: face before and then miraculously have bounced back and done 453 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: some really good things. These are the same guys, right, 454 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: and they in some some cases even better guys. So 455 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: the resilience of this team is really strong. The steadiness 456 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: of Topper is really strong. The fact that they don't 457 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: have those grinder hitters in that lineup is a detriment 458 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: in this situation. But hopefully they can figure out a 459 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: way to out of grind enough it bats out to 460 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: make a hit enough the mistakes that they get today. 461 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: Guys, we'll be back tomorrow morning to recay app game two. 462 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll be talking about something a lot different. 463 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully, hopefully I'll talk. 464 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: Smiling lady boys. 465 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: It's late, Jim. 466 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 4: This is the Philly Show. If you haven't already, please 467 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: subscribe to The Philly Show wherever you get your podcasts. 468 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: You can also watch us on our YouTube channel. 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