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Speaker 1: The volume This week on Prime Cuts, Chad Milman, Sharper Square,

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright was great on Jalen Hurts and being the

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Speaker 1: best face of a franchise ever, Lebron, James and Moore.

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Speaker 1: In my Top takes of the Week, I want to

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Speaker 1: start with the Denver broncos. You know when Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: came out and took that shot at Nathaniel Hackett, everybody

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Speaker 1: freaked out, WHOA, that's over the top. Baron Rodgers stuck

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Speaker 1: up for his buddy. Chean Peye does know anything. Nathaniel

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Speaker 1: Hackett and the Jets last forty drives one touchdown. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has taken Nathaniel Hacketts. Russell Wilson eighty four

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Speaker 1: passer rating, sixteen touchdowns, eleven picks. Russell now is a

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Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns, four picks. Nathaniel My kid is not a

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Speaker 1: good football coach. Sean Payton's a great football coach. Listen

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Speaker 1: to the passer ratings of Russell Wilson's career from twenty

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Speaker 1: try to find the Nathaniel Hacket year. The Jets offense

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Speaker 1: is now the most unwatchable offense. I'll make the argument

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Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson's the least effective quarterback starting quarterback I've

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Speaker 1: seen in the NFL and maybe in my life. Nathaniel

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Speaker 1: Hackett Sean Payton was right. What you're watching in Denver's amazing,

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Speaker 1: and in Russell Wilson, they've beaten the Chiefs, maybe the

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Speaker 1: best team in the league. The Bills hammered the Jets

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Speaker 1: today and the red hot hottest team in the league

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Speaker 1: in terms of winning Street Minnesota Vikings three weeks in

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Speaker 1: It's the same guys, isn't it amazing? That's why you

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Speaker 1: know it. We all know the quarterback leads this league.

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Speaker 1: That's why I never bought into Russell Wilson is washed.

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Speaker 2: Can't play.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any there's no historical precedent. So Russell

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Speaker 1: tonight made the throw of the night to Courtland Sutton,

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Speaker 1: who also made a great play. Had that really good?

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Speaker 1: Ryan in the backs and then New some running himself.

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Speaker 1: I mean all the Russell Wilson stuff in Seattle's back,

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Speaker 1: the playmaking, the good deep ball, the good decision making.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Russell Wilson. Sean fixed him, or

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Speaker 1: should we say Sean got him back on the freeway,

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Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson interstate. This is how he's played at college,

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Speaker 1: Seahawks and Broncos, with one exception than Nathaniel Hackett year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, go back to Wisconsin, Seattle, this Denver. So

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Speaker 1: it has been the same player.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he looks quite as twitchy as before,

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Speaker 1: not quite as twitchy, but you're seeing basically the same stuff.

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Speaker 1: The other thing to remember, if you go back to

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Speaker 1: So the quality of the quarterback play in the NFL

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Speaker 1: You know, historically there's a reason put him under pressure.

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Speaker 1: He's not quite as dynamic, not as dynamic. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I look at Russell Wilson twenty seven to thirty five,

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Speaker 1: the laterals, the quick screens. But it really is for

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Speaker 1: all this stuff about out you know, Sean Payton, it

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Speaker 2: And I know a lot of you.

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Speaker 1: Are saying, we'll calling you. You know you like Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: so of course this is what you think. No, what

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh defensive coach Kenny Pickett is not getting better. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of this stuff is a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: So we as we pivot back to Justin Fields, my

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Speaker 1: I think Caleb Williams is absolutely better. I think he's

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Speaker 1: So but my thing is you could get for that pick.

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Speaker 4: But to me, it makes no sense to not start

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Speaker 4: Fields next year will be going into year four, and

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Speaker 4: I think you're playing with house money with the second pick.

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Speaker 4: We've seen some of these teams last year. The Lions

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Speaker 4: in my mind, trading for sweat just given they could

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Speaker 2: A second round pick are so.

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Speaker 4: Valuable, but with some of their maneuvering, maybe they're viewing

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Speaker 4: we could play around and gain some picks back if

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Speaker 4: we use that second round pick to move back seven spots,

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Speaker 4: I think the big picture question is gonna because he's

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Speaker 2: Are they going to demand?

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Speaker 4: Are you know that we're not gonna go there?

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Speaker 2: We're a long way.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a little harder to do when things

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Speaker 4: back at Eli Manning. It's not like Ole miss was.

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Speaker 2: Going twelve to zero when he was playing there, right right,

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Speaker 2: but he did have the Manning name and.

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Speaker 4: His brother was already a superstar. John Elway's another example.

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Speaker 4: you could argue, yeah, there's seven and five who cares.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just the prospect is separate from the program,

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Speaker 1: By the way, Pennix and a rain Storm made a

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Speaker 1: never had the ball, but Pennix. To me, Caleb's the

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Speaker 1: knicks feels like the best leader. Drake May's got talent,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's fallen off. So you and I

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Speaker 1: So I was thinking leagues do better when they have,

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Speaker 1: especially star driven leagues, the English Premier League, the NBA,

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Speaker 1: term they'd make less money. Is that if Lebron James

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Speaker 1: it's hard to sweep even crappy teams. So Lebron can't

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Speaker 1: give you twenty great postseason games. He could give you eleven.

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Speaker 2: Sure, he could give you eleven.

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Speaker 1: And when I watched Lebron the other night in what

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Speaker 1: was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: he can still do that. He cannot do it eleven.

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Speaker 1: He cannot do it twenty one times in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Is that if you pulled back and people say, well,

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Speaker 1: what if stars would lose? Well, stars lose in March Madness.

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Speaker 1: March Madness gets exceptional ratings because their sudden death is

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Speaker 1: that you went to a three game series and another

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Speaker 1: a greater chance in singular games to be amazing. Injuries

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Speaker 3: And by the way, you it's it's increscble and people, people,

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Speaker 1: I looked at him and I was like, that guy.

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Speaker 1: All right, very good Week four and one. Sharper Square,

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Speaker 1: this is my second favorite pick of the week, and

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Speaker 1: I took Philly over Kansas City because both coaches offensive

431
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: and Sirianni's now four and zero off a bye, so

432
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: I thought it muted some of the advantage. But I

433
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: get a really sharp offensive coach off a bye against

434
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: the defensive coach. No buye, Todd Bowles. I thought it

435
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: was one of my stronger plays. I'm going to take

436
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: the Colts minus two and a half at home rested,

437
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: reasonably healthy.

438
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: Sharper Square.

439
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 6: No consensus. The early reporting I've heard is that wise

440
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 6: guys like the Bucks that they've been playing better than

441
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 6: people are giving them credit for that. Baker has been

442
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 6: keeping his team in games a lot of times. If

443
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 6: you look at some of these games, even last week

444
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 6: against San Francisco, they were a player or two away

445
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 6: from covering. You look earlier in the year they were

446
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 6: playing the Eagles, they were six point dogs, they were

447
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 6: a couple of Mike Evans drops away from covering. Like

448
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 6: this is a team that has consistently been hanging around

449
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 6: so and that's with good teams. So now if they're

450
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 6: going to be playing a mediocre to a bad team

451
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 6: whose defense is not very good, who are still playing?

452
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 6: Gardner Minshew, it's an odd thing to be backing the

453
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 6: Colts as a favorite. With Gardner Minshew, I feel like

454
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 6: you are leaning a little bit too much into the

455
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 6: new coach theme and not necessarily the players on the

456
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 6: field theme.

457
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Arizona minus one hosting the Rams. So

458
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: it's one thing to play the Rams when Cooper cup

459
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: is hurt in the game, another thing preparing when you're

460
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: not going to face him and you know it. Poka

461
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: Nicota is a great story, but he doesn't separate. They

462
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: don't have a separating receiver. He's a zone beater. In

463
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: the end, Rams are still a rebuilding roster. Arizona beat Atlanta, tough,

464
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: out played really well at times. Against Houston, they're at home.

465
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: The Rams were completely outplayed for three quarters. Seattle just

466
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: can't get stops on third down. Arizona will I'm gonna

467
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: take Arizona Kyler Murray at home sharper score.

468
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: So it's a little sharp.

469
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is the wise guy

470
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 6: started playing Arizona when they were underdogs at home. They've

471
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 6: been really impress with Kyler Murray in the two games

472
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 6: he's been back, especially last week. He kept them in

473
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 6: that game. They covered that game at five and a half,

474
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 6: which was a big number. The wise guys started betting

475
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 6: early in the week on Kyler Murray against the Texans.

476
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 6: So now you're looking at a game in which Kyler

477
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 6: Murray and the Cardinals are now favorites. Right, So if

478
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 6: you think the Cardinals are going to win, you're still

479
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 6: going to be on the right side because you're betting

480
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 6: the minus one. I will tell you that historically, the

481
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 6: trend is when a team flips from being an underdog

482
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 6: to being a favorite. The numbers work against them. So

483
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 6: what you really need to be thinking about is why

484
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 6: didn't I get this number a little bit earlier because

485
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 6: you would have liked it more at plus one. I

486
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 6: get you got to like play the lines that are

487
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 6: in front of you right now, but there's a lot

488
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 6: of games on the board to play where you're not

489
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 6: trying to buck some trends.

490
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Saints plus one at the

491
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: Falcons off of bye. I think they have a much

492
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: better roster. I think there's a little turmoil inside of Atlanta.

493
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: I think Arthur Smith is smart, but he's outspoken, blunt.

494
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the team loves him. I think this

495
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: is a experienced quarterback, better roster off of by older

496
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: team in spots getting a little healthy. Younger teams don't

497
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: need that buy when they're playing well, they want to

498
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: play the next week. Older teams always appreciate time off.

499
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: I think I take the Saints as a one point

500
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: dog Sharper square.

501
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 6: It's like you're trying to pick the corner TV games.

502
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on here.

503
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: Well, I'm picking what I like.

504
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think New Orleans is the right side.

505
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 6: I agree, Desmond Ritter is not an NFL caliber quarterback.

506
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 6: They have not been using Djon Robinson in a way

507
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 6: that anyone thought they would. I mean, this was a

508
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 6: guy that everyone expected to be a runaway for Offensive

509
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year.

510
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: And don't you think the guys in the locker room

511
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: are wondering why they're not using him. He's obviously a

512
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: huge house.

513
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 6: Yes, you have to be thinking if you're a player

514
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 6: in the Falcons right now. Wait a second, Arthur Smith

515
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 6: was a genius when we were using Corderyl Patterson. But

516
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 6: we've got a talent who might be once in a

517
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 6: generation and we can't figure out how to get this

518
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 6: guy in space and make him the perfect weapon for

519
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 6: everything we want to do when we don't have a

520
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 6: quarterback who can really throw the ball downfield. So, yeah,

521
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 6: the Saints are the right side here because you're getting

522
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 6: them off of by they're older. You know. The challenge

523
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 6: here is that Derek Carr has been terrible in the

524
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 6: red zone, and the reason the Saints have gotten better

525
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 6: in the red zone and they started to turn their

526
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 6: season around is because of Taste's hell. I will also

527
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 6: tell you Dennis Allen the past twenty years one hundred

528
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: and forty something coaches in the NFL, he is one

529
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 6: of the least profitable against the spread in any capacity.

530
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 6: So this is kind of a game where if you

531
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 6: like it, you're still playing with fire.

532
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: All right, Generally I would take the hook Chargers getting

533
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: three and a half at home, but I've been saying

534
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: this for two months. I think the Ravens are probably

535
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: the most complete team in the league. Mark Andrews won't play,

536
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: but the Chargers defense made Jordan Love look special. It's

537
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: a bad defense. I know it's the Hook. I'm there

538
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: is no home field advantage for the Chargers. It does

539
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: not exist. I think the Ravens could blow him out.

540
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: Sharper score early square.

541
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 6: The Ravens have not been the side for the wise

542
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 6: guys this week. The number open at four and a

543
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 6: half got bet down to four. Now it's down to

544
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 6: three and a half. Look the Chargers. Nobody believes in

545
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 6: Brandon Staley. We have said it all year. We don't

546
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 6: think he's a very good coach. The wise guys consistently

547
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 6: bet against him when he's a favorite, when he's an underdog,

548
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 6: and there's there at home, it's a different scenario, and

549
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 6: their weapons on offense are just so good. And you

550
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 6: talk about luck, right, what did the Packers have last week?

551
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 6: They also had Keenan Allen dropping a third down catch

552
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: near the goal line that would have put them in

553
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 6: first in goal he dropped a touchdown pass. There were

554
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 6: a lot of sort of inconsistencies in the way games

555
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 6: normally play out that helped the Packers win that game,

556
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 6: in addition to the Chargers defense just being terrible. So

557
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 6: the Wise guys like the Chargers here with the hook

558
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 6: because they're dogs and it's the only get right spot

559
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 6: they're gonna find.

560
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Okay, there's always a game I completely miss on. The

561
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos game fascinates me, and I have a feeling

562
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: that's it. I feel like I feel like Denver keeps

563
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: kind of winning the same way where I'm not sure

564
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: that the better team and then Russell makes a play,

565
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: But then I look at their defense and it's really

566
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: young and hyper aggressive. Simmons now is making instrumental plays.

567
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: I already like their top corner of Patrick's Artan can

568
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: Denver win again? Is that the dumpster dive I missed?

569
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: Now?

570
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 6: The Wise guys are on Cleveland in this game. The

571
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 6: line open two and a half, it's been bet down

572
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 6: to one and a half. There's a difference. And a

573
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, we talked about Cleveland and Baltimore,

574
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 6: and I think I try to convince you that Cleveland

575
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 6: was the side in this game and they ended up

576
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 6: covering in this game. And the reason why I like

577
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 6: Cleveland in this in that game was because their defense

578
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 6: is offensive. And what I mean by that is they

579
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 6: have playmakers at every single level of the defense. It's

580
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 6: not just Miles Garrett, who might be one of the

581
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 6: best players in the NFL right now, but it's guys

582
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 6: like Grant Delpit who are leading that team in tackles

583
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: right and he is playing in the box, but he

584
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: is also playing in coverage. They make plays that put

585
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 6: the Browns offense in a position to score. They don't

586
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 6: always have to be feel getting a kickoff going down

587
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 6: seventy five hours or getting a punt from deep in

588
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 6: their territory. The Browns defense puts them in a good position.

589
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 6: I can't say the same about the Broncos. They're better,

590
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 6: They're making team, They're holding teams to fewer points their

591
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 6: tackling is still really bad. We saw that against Minnesota

592
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 6: they could not tackle anybody. And the Browns are a

593
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 6: heavy rush team with Now and Dorian Thompson Robinson a

594
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 6: very mobile quarterback. So the wise guys like the Browns here.

595
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 6: The only caveat I would say is that the number

596
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 6: is moved, and so it's becoming harder and harder to

597
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 6: bet on it. You're essentially betting on the Browns to

598
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 6: win at this point.

599
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: Any other dumpster diving?

600
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 6: Can I interest you in the Las Vegas Raiders as

601
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 6: eight and a half eight or nine, depending on where

602
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 6: you're looking, point underdogs hosting the Kansas City Chiefs.

603
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: So look, yeah, the Chiefs.

604
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 6: They have been virtually unbeatable, and I like the Eagles

605
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 6: to this past week. I think we made the Eagles

606
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 6: last week an executive decision. And the second half in games,

607
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 6: it's almost like Andy Reid recognizes that his receivers are

608
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: not playmakers and so he's immediately playing the clock in

609
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 6: the second half. They scored what two touchdowns in the

610
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 6: second half. In the past five games, they had seventeen

611
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 6: points at halftime. This past week ended the game with

612
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: seventeen points. There's a lot of stuff to unpack for

613
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 6: this team. So now you're asking in a division game

614
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 6: for them to go on the road and beat a

615
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 6: team in the Raiders that still has a very aggressive

616
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 6: defense in a very good pass rush and obviously one

617
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 6: of the best defensive ends and edge rushers in Max Crosby.

618
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 6: So and Aidan O'Connell has shown stuff right like he's

619
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 6: throwing the ball downfield. He's not afraid, he's very active.

620
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: He can make throws. He's not mobile, but he can.

621
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 6: He can totally make throws.

622
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: So it's a big number.

623
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Speaker 6: And Patrick Mahomes, for all his success when he's favored

624
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 6: by three or less, other than this past week when

625
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 6: you and I decided to take the Eagles generally covers

626
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 6: three and a half or more, he is way under

627
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 6: five hundred against the spread. So this is a spot

628
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 6: where you want to you want to fade Mahomes.

629
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a smart pick. Also, Antonio

630
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: Piers is fighting and that staff is fighting for seven

631
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: figure contractys. Right like Mark Davis probably wants to hire

632
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: this staff because he's paying Gruden and he's paying Josh McDaniels.

633
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: He would love to get a coach on the cheap,

634
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: so this staff knows they've got probably a sixty five

635
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: thirty five seventy thirty chance to land these jobs. Just

636
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: show effort. I don't even think you have to win.

637
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: I think if they're consistently showing effort, I mean they overachieved.

638
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: Last weekend they lost. That was a good loss for

639
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: an interim coach as a big dog. As a good loss.

640
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: Think about how about a twenty four to twenty lost

641
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: Kansas City. He may get an extension right there.

642
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: Think about this.

643
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 6: Think about the Chargers who've had Brandon Staley, who has

644
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 6: underperformed the defense that he is supposed to be a

645
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 6: specialist in has been terrible. He has not gotten the

646
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 6: best out of an unbelievably talented offense. The Chargers won't

647
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 6: fight him because the Chargers are cheap and don't want

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Speaker 6: to turn over the staff and have to pay two

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Speaker 6: coaches at the same time. The flip side is, you've

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Speaker 6: got a Raiders team that is as consistently bad as

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Speaker 6: the Chargers, but Mark Davis is willing to turn that

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Speaker 6: staff over and pay hundreds of millions of dollars in

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Speaker 6: excess coaching fees to try to find the winner. That's

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Speaker 6: admirable either way, Like you're getting losers, but at least

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Speaker 6: one guy is willing to spend to try to find

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Speaker 6: the formula to win.

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Speaker 1: Such a good time of the year this is I'm

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Speaker 1: not a big fan of wearing sweaters and sitting into

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Speaker 1: a in a hot kitchen, so I don't love Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I think the Michigan Ohio State

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Speaker 1: game may get eighteen million viewers. I don't remember a

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Speaker 1: college football regular season game that felt like this. There

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Speaker 1: was a Georgia Bama game a few years ago that

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Speaker 1: was close. Georgia hadn't won a title yet, and we

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Speaker 1: kind of felt like, yes was their team. But it's

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Speaker 1: weird being on the Michigan side because if you're on

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Speaker 1: the Michigan side, you are labeled as a cheater. And

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Speaker 1: of course I have always been morally flexible, like all

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Speaker 1: of us are, I just acknowledge it. Yes, so we

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Speaker 1: all speed. We've all written off a glass of wine

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Speaker 1: that really wasn't supposed to be on our taxes. We've

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Speaker 1: all we've all, you know, shoplifted major appliances. I mean

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Speaker 1: those kind of things. I tend to think with Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: like Pete Carroll at SC He's always been a push

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Speaker 1: the envelope guy. And I think College Sports Bill self

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Speaker 1: falls into this. Remember the remember the claims. I think

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Speaker 1: Jim Beaheim, I think I think the NFL would be

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Speaker 1: far more punitive and they police you more arduously. But

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Speaker 1: the nc double A is this fuzzy, nebulous bureaucracy where

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Speaker 1: everybody suspects their neighbor is cheating a little. So I

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Speaker 1: think it promotes push the envelope among staffs. So I

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Speaker 1: don't view myself as a morally this is not a

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Speaker 1: morally conclusive stand that I'm backing a cheater. It is

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Speaker 1: a push the envelope industry on Wall Street. You don't

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Speaker 1: think guys go to lunch and share information. It's called

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Speaker 1: insider trading. You think Martha Stewart was the last one

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Speaker 1: to really do it, of note, And I think there

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Speaker 1: are industries. I remember when I worked at ESPN, and

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to leave a window open for rivals to

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Speaker 1: compete for contracts. So if you have the NBA, you

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Speaker 1: can't renegotiate that there's a window where Fox or NBC

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Speaker 1: or CBS could come in. I really think that's how

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Speaker 1: it works. I really think presidents aren't going to dinner

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Speaker 1: with the commissioners. Stop buy for cigars, some cognac. So

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Speaker 1: I just think there are industries. Tech is another one.

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Speaker 1: You read the Steve Jobs Walter Isaacson biography. It's day

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Speaker 1: to day you're pushing stuff. It's poker playing, it's it's bluffs.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of a grift, and so I think

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Speaker 1: college sports almost promotes it with this fuzzy bureaucracy that

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Speaker 1: gives unequal punitive punishment to certain programs. It's the old

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Speaker 1: tark joke. The NCAA was so mad at Kentucky they

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Speaker 1: put Cleveland State on probation. So it's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm back in a cheater. I think he went

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Speaker 1: over the line. Instead of going seventy eight on the freeway,

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Speaker 1: it was ninety four with his middle finger out of

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Speaker 1: the conference. But I'm not deeply bothered by it.

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Speaker 6: So look, Colin, we've all crushed up sleeping pills, put

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Speaker 6: it in our parents' food, and then used their hand

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Speaker 6: to sign the will that used to be going to

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Speaker 6: your sister and now it's going to you.

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Speaker 2: That's totally fine.

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Speaker 6: I never understood what the big deal was with this

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Speaker 6: particular scandal, because the saying goes, if you ain't cheating,

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Speaker 6: you ain't trying. Like we're going up in arms about

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Speaker 6: sign stealing. Every single coach covers their mouth when they

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Speaker 6: are putting the play into the game. You know why

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Speaker 6: they do that because they know somebody's watching and is

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Speaker 6: going to try to steal the sign like.

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Speaker 1: Also, also, everybody changes their signs and signals for big games.

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Speaker 1: You know, Super Bowl, playoff games, Rose Bowl, Auburn Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Those are the games you change. Ask Peyton Manning, you

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Speaker 1: change the signs for those games now you can use

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Speaker 1: them back to back if you're hosting Rutgers in Maryland. Okay,

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Speaker 1: those games aren't on national TV. But the reality is

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Speaker 1: these big spot games, Peyton Manning isn't doing the same

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Speaker 1: signals that these guys change for playoff games, division rivalry game.

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Speaker 1: When you're playing the Ravens the second time, if you're

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, you're not used in the same signs, same audibles.

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Speaker 2: Stuff changes constantly.

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Speaker 6: Helen, We've all broken into we've all broken into a

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Speaker 6: colleagues email to send really inappropriate comments to your boss

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Speaker 6: when you're both going for the same promotion. It's totally fine.

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Speaker 6: That's what people do in the game of life, in

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Speaker 6: the game of professional media, and in the game of football.

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Speaker 6: You steal signs Happy Thanksgiving in to your brother.

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Speaker 5: The volume