WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Albert Breer (05-28-20)

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on Albert Breer from the Monday Morning Quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>we'll join us. We'll talk about the NFL tabling the

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<v Speaker 1>Sky Judge. Man. I was excited just to hear Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks say, and let's go to this sky Judge have

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<v Speaker 1>a business card that says, I'm sorry, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do for a living? Sky Judge? Albert Breer will join us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what they're going to do is the replay

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<v Speaker 1>official is going to have his job expanded a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and he will be the quote unquote Sky Judge.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll talk about that. Also, Jadeveon Clowney is still

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<v Speaker 1>out there on the outside looking in. The Browns gave

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<v Speaker 1>him a big offer. Titans are also on play and

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<v Speaker 1>the Seattle Seahawks, So we'll talk to him about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the movers and shakers here with the NFL eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven three D P show email address DP at

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<v Speaker 1>dan Patrick dot com. Baseball players say no paycuts. Max

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<v Speaker 1>Scherzer came out and pretty demons demonstratively said no, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do it here. Once again, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the owners want to have this disruption with the

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<v Speaker 1>players because you have the haves and the have nots,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is going to create an uncomfortable discourse for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in baseball. You know, the owners might just look

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<v Speaker 1>at this and say, hey, we're not going to pay

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<v Speaker 1>you all that money because we're not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>our money back, or we're going to open the books here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about negotiations, and it seems fruitless to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it every single day. Other than what I have said,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like every day is everybody needs to shut up,

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<v Speaker 1>keep things in house, and try to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you're going to do this, where you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to ask the paying audience, your fans, to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you guys just sign They're probably not going

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<v Speaker 1>to side with the players here, and that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that the players are guilty, you know. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're asking for something and they want to know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what are the owners making here. Why don't you open

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<v Speaker 1>your books? Why don't you let us see what you

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<v Speaker 1>have and then understand what is at stake for you?

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<v Speaker 1>We know what our salaries are. You print our salaries

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<v Speaker 1>their public knowledge. But Max Scherzer is among eight players

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<v Speaker 1>on Baseball's executive subcommittee, which means he's probably a mouthpiece

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<v Speaker 1>for Scott Boris, his agent, and which I understand Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Boris is trying to get the most for his clients

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<v Speaker 1>because his clients make the most money. But Scherzer said

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<v Speaker 1>that after discussing the latest developments with the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the players, there's no need to engage with MLB in

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<v Speaker 1>any further compancy reductions. We have previously negotiated a pay

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<v Speaker 1>cut in the version of a pro rated salary. No

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<v Speaker 1>justification to accept a second pay cut based upon current

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<v Speaker 1>information the union has received. All right, this doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>to us on a day to day basis certainly doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter to us right now. We don't care about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the season starts, all you want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>have baseball. Nobody's feeling bad for a billionaire, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not feeling bad for Max Scherzer or some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other guys who make more than twenty million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year. But we can understand what they're giving up

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<v Speaker 1>to come back, and the players are the ones taking

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<v Speaker 1>the risk to come back, not these owners. So I

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<v Speaker 1>see both sides, and I hate to go right down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle on this, but I've been involved in these things,

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<v Speaker 1>covering negotiations before, I've covered lockouts, I've covered strikes. I

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<v Speaker 1>know how this works. You put out information you want

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<v Speaker 1>put out, and on it disseminated, and then you hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>get public sentiment on your side. And that it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the owner's Major League Baseball. They've leaked every possible

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<v Speaker 1>document possibly, that's every possible document possibly, and now you

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<v Speaker 1>have the players saying, well, wait a minute, now, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to strike back here, and you know, it's just uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bad look for baseball. You got the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure it out inside in house NHL inside

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<v Speaker 1>in house, Major League Baseball. Open the windows, open the doors, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>come on in. See what we got here. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad look, and they got to get this under one

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<v Speaker 1>roof here. Figure it out what makes the most sense,

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<v Speaker 1>because we as fans don't want to hear anything about this.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't. I couldn't care less. I want them to

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<v Speaker 1>play baseball. Figure it out. If you don't make your

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<v Speaker 1>money now, make it up later. If you're an owner,

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<v Speaker 1>make it up later. If you're a player, make it

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<v Speaker 1>up later. But we don't want to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just play. Figure it out. Get back. There's other things

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about. I did see this. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seven page draft of Major League Baseball's proposed twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty Operational Manual that was sent to teams on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course it was leaked. The guidelines, first reported

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<v Speaker 1>by The Athletic were a subject to negotiations with the

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<v Speaker 1>Players Association. Teams are going to have fifty players each

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<v Speaker 1>under the plan, and the number of active for each

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<v Speaker 1>game is still being negotiated, so you have a pool

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<v Speaker 1>of fifty players. Spitting is prohibited, along with water jugs

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<v Speaker 1>and the use of saunas, steam rooms, pools, cryotherapy chambers,

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<v Speaker 1>Hitting indoor cages is discouraged. Batting gloves encouraged. Batting practice

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<v Speaker 1>pitchers wear masks. Protocols, including testing for team staff. Seating

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<v Speaker 1>in the empty stands near the dugouts would be used

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain distance to diagrams in the manual. The next

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<v Speaker 1>day's starting pitcher can't sit in the dugout. Everybody must

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<v Speaker 1>keep their distance during the Star Spangled Banner and God

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<v Speaker 1>Bless America. Fielders are encouraged to retreat several steps away

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<v Speaker 1>from the base runner between pitches first and third base.

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<v Speaker 1>Coaches are not to approach base runners or umpires, and

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<v Speaker 1>players should not socialize with opponents. I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 1>that first argument at home plate where the manager is

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<v Speaker 1>about six or seven feet away from the umpire guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the umpires pointing back at him, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they're saying. They certainly look mad

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<v Speaker 1>at each other. Managers and coaches have to wear a

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<v Speaker 1>mask while in the dugouts. Entire traveling party, including players,

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<v Speaker 1>must wear personal protective equipment while on buses in flights.

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<v Speaker 1>Restaurants off limits on the road, including ones in the

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<v Speaker 1>hotels as our hotel fitness center. Get ready for some baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>I got I have no idea what it's gonna look like,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I'm really interested to seeing. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>got guys saying, hey, I'm gonna spit. Um, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>stop me from spitting. Okay, there's far more important things

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about than you not being able to spit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the Colorado Rocky that no, no, no, Charlie black Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Blackman. He says he's gonna spit. Hey, Charlie, shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go ahead and spit. You don't have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>us you're gonna spit. Just worry about the other things

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get to spit. Oh my god, Hey, I'm spitting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>designated spitter. Just just get baseball back. Spit on your

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<v Speaker 1>uniform if you will. No, I mean, come on, spit

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<v Speaker 1>at home if you want to. We worry about the

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<v Speaker 1>dumbest damn things here. Just come back and play baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. You have to tell me that I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you're probably adjusting your cup two. Good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>What else are you doing? Come back and play baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be enough. Mclevit. You got a pull question

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Yeah, we got a few options. By way,

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<v Speaker 1>baseball players are gross and have always been gross, and

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<v Speaker 1>that sport has more disgusting things going on. But uh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>um NBA question. There's a story yesterday that the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>is going to work to let families come to Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bubble Tournament or whatever it is. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA player, do you want your family there if

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<v Speaker 1>for say a two months season, Well you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>guys who have different reasons for that. But um, I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna go from the competitive so you can focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the game. I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no.

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<v Speaker 1>I just there's just the more you add, the more chances,

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<v Speaker 1>and then let's reduce the number of chances of something

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<v Speaker 1>that could go wrong. You got one shot here, just

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. And not everybody's going to be there

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<v Speaker 1>two months. So if you have some of these Marquis guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if Lebron James wants to bring his immediate family there,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably going to be there for the long haul.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if it's the Greek freak and I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a newborn baby, you want to do that. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not want a newborn baby in that environment there,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's going to be up to the individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I would not want my family there unless

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I'm in there for the long haul of

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<v Speaker 1>two months. That's one thing. But some of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to be there more than a month, yeah, poem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And if I'm Lebron's family, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>want to the presidential suite at the resort in Orlando.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's fantastic. It might be two thousand square feet,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've seen Lebron's house on social media it's like

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thousand square Yeah. Yeah, ton. But even if the

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<v Speaker 1>family's safety was guaranteed, which there's no way of doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>But just hypothetically, some of the players may not want

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<v Speaker 1>They're probably there anywhere. Yeah, you want to explain why.

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<v Speaker 1>Explaining why because you just don't want to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the family for a couple of months. It's not so

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<v Speaker 1>much a you know, distraction or anything. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it would be a one hundred percent because

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<v Speaker 1>of worrying about the safety of the family. Sometimes there's

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<v Speaker 1>extracurricular reasons why you might want a two month to

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<v Speaker 1>break from the family and I'll just leave it there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, did okay? Your family might want you to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Orlando and not go with sure, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>would be like to make a four month you go

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<v Speaker 1>by yourself, Toddy, if you're not playing. Yeah, I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>it describe that the entire resort areas are all going

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<v Speaker 1>to be open to them. It does sound kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like heaven, you know, to bring your family down. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been to Disney World with my kids, but I

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<v Speaker 1>heard it that it's pretty spectacular what they're being offered. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's everybody is there and nobody you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody from outside parties involved in it. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to read. If I'm the NBA, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>reduce the number of people that I need. That's that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to get the season done with that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the most important part. Players get paid, owners make money,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get a championship here. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>appease everybody in this situation. And if you can ensure safety, great.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we can, but if we can, great.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have everybody down there, but all it takes

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<v Speaker 1>you got one moment here, one team, one player, one star,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it crumbles. Yeah, Poling, let's scale it down.

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<v Speaker 1>You bring seven players and one coach. Let's just have

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<v Speaker 1>the bench nice and clean space everybody out. You get

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<v Speaker 1>two subs, bring a guard, bring a big and let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>What other poll questions do you have? Mclob I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into the Baker Mayfield topic yet? Or

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<v Speaker 1>save that one? You're gonna save that. Yeah, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of contract talk with Baker Mayfield. Okay, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>question for you if the Spurs, if they expand the

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<v Speaker 1>playoff field to twelve teams in each conference. Oh sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>they say twenty four deep like NHL, those twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>teams count as playoff teams. Well, what they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this is the proposal twenty teams eight in the East,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve from the West. Because the twelve has some competitive

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<v Speaker 1>slots there where somebody might be able to Portland, New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans might be able to get into the eight spots.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to be fair to them and the San

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Spurs, So it would be a play in to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the field of sixteen. Is that however? I

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<v Speaker 1>believe so. But there's going to be twenty, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not balanced from It's not ten and ten from the

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<v Speaker 1>East and West. It would be eight because I think

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<v Speaker 1>those spots are all secure in the East, whereas the

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<v Speaker 1>West there's still some opportunity there to move up and

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<v Speaker 1>get into the postseason. So I guess you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, with this playoff streak for the San

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Spurs continue, don't we have other things to worry about?

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<v Speaker 1>Then that doesn't count. So we're going to put an

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<v Speaker 1>asterisk by the San Antonio Spurs playoff streak? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what we're saying? Mclovin, Yeah, so things to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get yay. They we didn't put an asterisk

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<v Speaker 1>by winning a title in nineteen ninety nine in a

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<v Speaker 1>strike shortened season, but we're gonna put an asterisk by

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<v Speaker 1>their playoff run. What'd be amazing if they had their

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs cheek broken and won the NBA title. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>were the title, but they didn't make the playoffs. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this would be astra squorthy because in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the normal format, they would have not made the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs if the season ended. They're pretty far out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're like six games out. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>is this an asterisk or not. It is this expanded

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs just to get three more games of Zion Williamson

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<v Speaker 1>on national TV, because that's what it feels like. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we get three more games out of Zion on national team?

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<v Speaker 1>Well they want more than three, but who knows. You

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<v Speaker 1>would like to have him in the mix. You certainly would, ye.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. Why are the Blazers not good this year?

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<v Speaker 1>They were really good last year. I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck happened to them. I don't think that they

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<v Speaker 1>were healthy, Yeah, I'm sure, Like I don't remember who

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<v Speaker 1>was injured, who was hot. I don't remember anything we

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<v Speaker 1>were We used to talk about NBA all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and these teams are just going to pick up and

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<v Speaker 1>be the same teams. Well, you kind of forget who

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<v Speaker 1>was good and was somebody really good. Right before this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Utah Bugdanovich is out with he had a

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<v Speaker 1>risk surgery. He's had an unbelievable year. He's already out

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<v Speaker 1>for the year. You know, ain't coming back for the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So Utah, which I loved, was a dark coach to

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<v Speaker 1>start the year, and then all of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like and then I got the Rudy Gobert situation here

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<v Speaker 1>to his teammates like him, how's that gonna be when

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<v Speaker 1>they all come back together. Who's gonna want to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with a Rudy Gobert when we all come back? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>MC love, And you're pretty sure Durant won't come back?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything Eddie updates? And Klay Thompson too. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine it, you know, Klay Thompson, I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>him coming back. Durant. I guess there's the possibility, But

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't guarantee that Kyrie's coming back, then I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want Kevin Durant coming back. If we're making a

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<v Speaker 1>run in the East, If I have Durant and Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>and they're healthy, Okay, I at least understand it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just wouldn't want to push He's had ample time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think about this, how many months that he's

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<v Speaker 1>been out, which had been twelve months, maybe longer than that,

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<v Speaker 1>or has it been quite twelve months. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>remember when Durant got got hurt, so it was last

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<v Speaker 1>June when he blew it out. They say nine to twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe for an Achilles, But I just I got

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<v Speaker 1>to look at this big picture here. If I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>NETS and I just don't want to bring Durant back,

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<v Speaker 1>I know they can tell me, hey, doctor's cleared one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. You're pushing him back. Yeah. See, Not to

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<v Speaker 1>get too far down the line, but I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>players are wondering about next season, and there's there's no

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<v Speaker 1>real guarantees for how that's going to play out either.

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<v Speaker 1>We could be in a very similar situation next year

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<v Speaker 1>at this time, So they, as a player might be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they might want to get in some games

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<v Speaker 1>and get in some time and play and compete, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they have a chance for a ring,

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<v Speaker 1>actually be a part, you know, a participant in that,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than all of a sudden, two seasons are gone

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<v Speaker 1>and they're still waiting, well, I think that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to look at delayed start and maybe it's backed up

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<v Speaker 1>to Christmas with the NBA. But also now it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out publicly, but I'm waiting to hear the players

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<v Speaker 1>and the owners talk about, well, if we don't start

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<v Speaker 1>until December, what does that mean for salaries? Here just

0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.280
<v Speaker 1>throwing it out there because people say it's not about money,

0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's always about money. We'll take a break, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback. I was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping for my Sky Judge. We're not getting a Sky Judge.

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<v Speaker 1>But it feels like maybe we're just saying to the

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<v Speaker 1>replay official, hey, we're going to give you more responsibilities

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<v Speaker 1>that basically calling him the adjunct Sky Judge and Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>West the Laker Hall of Famer a little bit later

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<v Speaker 1>And by the looks of your room, there you love

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<v Speaker 1>you self. Some Ohio State bunk eyes there. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>by accident that Paulie wore his Michigan T shirt today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that. Are you a Michigan guy, PAULI, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have gotten the Michigan if you doubled my gpa. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Southern. I got an even better story.

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<v Speaker 1>I come from a long line of Michigan people, and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't go get in, so I went to the arrival.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that, but where did you grow up? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>from Michigan? Now, I'm from Massachusetts. My dad's from Detroit, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and so my dad's side of the family is almost

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<v Speaker 1>entirely from Michigan. Everybody went to Michigan or Michigan State,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I was the black sheep. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the other big town school. Yeah. But people call this rivalry,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm from Ohio, and I say, it's not a rivalry,

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<v Speaker 1>as Michigan's not on the same level and so Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State we Yeah, what do you think of that? It's

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<v Speaker 1>not I mean, it's to me over the last seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen year. I mean, it's like when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>school there, Dan, it was the tail end of the

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<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Card John Cooper thing, and it's amazing what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it. Honestly, I think because it matters

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<v Speaker 1>more to people in Ohio. That's why things have gone

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<v Speaker 1>the way they've gone. But I mean, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>from what Trustle has done, the fact that they've been

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<v Speaker 1>more dominant since after Trust a lot so unbelievable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but why does it matter more to Ohio State fans

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<v Speaker 1>than it does Michigan fans. I don't know. You're probably

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<v Speaker 1>as good to answer to that as I am, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're from there. I don't know. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just more. I just think it's more ingrained

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<v Speaker 1>in the culture in Ohio. And I think the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, I mean when I went to school to

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. I don't know if it's still the same

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<v Speaker 1>way there, but I think ninety five percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that I went to school with were from Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>and Michigan. A lot of the people didn't grow up

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<v Speaker 1>with it. I mean, a lot of the people that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to Michigan or from New York or from California,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think it's a little less ingrained than

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<v Speaker 1>the people who went to Michigan than it is the

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<v Speaker 1>people went to Ohio State. Yeah, but I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you're with everybody loves a winner. Therefore it's more important

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<v Speaker 1>to Ohio fans because they're on the winning side of this,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas Michigan fans not as excited, you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>downplaying this, and uh maybe maybe that's why it means more.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know though, because Dan they

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<v Speaker 1>ran off John Cooper because he couldn't beat Michigan, Like

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<v Speaker 1>John Cooper was fine otherwise, and they ran him off

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<v Speaker 1>simply because he couldn't beat Michigan. So, but everything's good now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think aybody would in Ohio was downplaying the

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<v Speaker 1>rivalry when when it wasn't going well for them, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it is going well that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not everything. You know, they're fine with their

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<v Speaker 1>coach because whoever their coach is, because they know that

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan's coaches Jim Harball, and they always feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>have the upper hand there. Do you see a scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where Harball eventually leaves Michigan for another coaching John I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he certainly wants to another track of the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that he has some unfinished business there.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think it's sort of bothered him, Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the way that he like his brother. Finally his

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<v Speaker 1>brother got to the mountaintop against him, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've always felt like there was that that

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<v Speaker 1>little piece of unfinished business. So I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>long he's gonna stay at Michigan. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people felt like, you know, he'd probably be at

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan for four or five years then go back because

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<v Speaker 1>he's been sort of a short term or the other

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<v Speaker 1>places he's been, so he's already sort of lasted longer

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<v Speaker 1>than some people thought he'd last at Michigan. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he'll eventually be back in the NFL. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think Ohio State fans won Jim Harball

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<v Speaker 1>to stay as head coach at Michigan. I mean, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say yes. I mean, Ryan Day's out recruiting him,

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<v Speaker 1>out coaching him, He's beating him on the field. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that not just Urban Meyer beat Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Harbaugh this way, the fact that Ryan Days beating him

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<v Speaker 1>this way too and has all the momentum. I know this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just seems to be a lot of unlocked potential

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<v Speaker 1>left in that Michigan program, and it's super interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that, like you know, that that another coach

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<v Speaker 1>could come in here and after the Urban Harbaugh thing,

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<v Speaker 1>take Ohio State to another level. And now Jim Harball

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<v Speaker 1>has got to catch up to him. It'll be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see where it goes. All right, Albert Bure joining

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<v Speaker 1>a senior NFL reporter MMQB. Now let's talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>day job here. I was all excited about sky Judge,

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<v Speaker 1>I really was. And now it's being tabled. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>it being tabled? And is the replay official getting some

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<v Speaker 1>more responsibilities? Well, it's not really being I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>being tabled, but it's being tabled in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>it was written by the coach's subcommittee, and in particular

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<v Speaker 1>that the Ravens coach John Harbaugh and the Chargers coach

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Lynn, and the difference between what they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do and what's going to be going in in an

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<v Speaker 1>experimental basis is really about who the sky judge himself is,

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<v Speaker 1>and the coaches really wanted it to be a more

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<v Speaker 1>experienced guy, so either a retired head referee or a

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<v Speaker 1>more experienced member of the crew, with younger guys becoming

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth member. Of the crew. They really wanted an

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<v Speaker 1>experience hand up there's somebody that everybody could trust being

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of monitoring the broadcast and being in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of having that view up top, you know. And really

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the league wasn't ready to take that step. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Walt Anderson, who has become very involved over the last

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<v Speaker 1>four or five months. He was an on field official

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.960
<v Speaker 1>until the end of the season. He's moved into a

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 1>senior role in the NFL office now, you know, he

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of suggested, hey, listen, the replay officials we have

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 1>are good. Will change out a few of them and

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>we'll get some good guys in here, and then let's

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>give this a shot in the preseason, and if it

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>works in the preseason, let's try it in the regular season.

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And if it works in the regular season, we're can

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 1>expand on it in twenty twenty one. And so there's

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 1>been a two year process for guys like John Harbaugh

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and Andy Reid and Anthony Lynn and all these guys

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>really just want to give the officials a resource. And

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the idea was to give him a high end resource

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 1>by giving him an experienced official up top. This is

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of a compromise or the replay official, the existing

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>replay official, we'll have expanded. Dude, I don't know if

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 1>you saw the comments Dean Blandino made on the show

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago where he said, when he

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was in charge of the officials, there was a break

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>glass in case of emergency where New York would contact

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the official on the field and say, guys, huddle up. Because,

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>as Dean said, you know, we were worried about something extreme,

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>historically bad or controversial here. We contacted the NFL. The

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>NFL said, we have no comment, and then I talked

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.719
<v Speaker 1>to a source who said, that's the way Dean did things,

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 1>not the way we do things. Now, what do you

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>make of that. Well, Dean was very close with a

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of the coaches, and he had that trust with

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the coaches. Dan, and that's one thing that came up.

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's been lost the last couple of years

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of the respect between the coaches in

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>the league office was built by Dean Blandino, and so

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>when Dean went into TV, I do think a little

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>bit of that it was lost, which is where some

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 1>of the issues have come in the last couple of years.

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I can also say that like the sky judge. It

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>with certain crews has actually already existed. And so I'll

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>give you a great example. Everybody remembers the Earl Thomas

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>hit on Mason Rudolph last year. Right, So if you

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>guys go back and watch that broadcast, go pull it

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 1>up on game pass or whatever. Watch when they cut

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 1>to commercial after Mason Rudolph goes down, there's no flag

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>on the field. When they come back from commercial, there

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>is a flag on the field. It took about thirty

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>five to forty seconds for the flag to go on

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the field. Well what happened there? Well, John Harbaugh went

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 1>over to the head referee, is We'll wait a second,

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>where'd that flag come from? And the head officials said

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to him, the guy up in the booth told me

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>to drop it because the hit was egregious. And Harbaugh

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.919
<v Speaker 1>said to the head official, oh, you mean like a

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>sky judge. So they've actually been sort of using some

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.159
<v Speaker 1>of these things in spots over the last couple of years.

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 1>I think the way what the coaches really wanted was

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to formalize that make sure everybody had the benefit of it.

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>And again this isn't coaches versus officials. The main thing

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>for these coaches, was the officials the benefit that every

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>single one of us sitting at home with the cable

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.679
<v Speaker 1>subscription has, which is eight, ten, twelve different angles of

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>crystal clear HD to see everything from. I think these

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>coaches really thought it was crazy that the guys in

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the field weren't getting the benefit that tens of millions

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of people have sitting on their couches every day. Yeah,

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the people who are in charge to make these calls

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>have the worst view. We have the best view, So

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>why not take advantage of that to help them. I

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 1>still don't understand the Saints Ram's call non call, the

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>fact that there were two fouls including helmet to helmet,

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>were not called. That's where I thought, and Dean Blandino

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>was not in the home office in New York to

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.640
<v Speaker 1>be able to, hey, guys, huddle up, because I think

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>they did huddle up and they still missed it. So

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>how do you prevent that when we get to the

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>postseason when you have all star crews? Well, and I

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>think and one thing that actually was brought up to me,

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this, and maybe you're aware of this

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>because you've been on a Super Bowl podcast. Did you

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>know that there are extra officials on the sideline during

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl that have headsets on and they're communicating

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>with the head referees. Like I didn't even know that.

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Like over the last couple of days of making phone

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>calls on this, I sort of learned that. And really

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like you said, Dan, they're trying to give more

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>resources to these guys, and so you know, the idea

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>is the head referee still in charge of the game,

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>but there's a guy up top, and that guy has

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>access to the broadcast. That guy's also watching from the boost,

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>so he has that bandage point and so he's going

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to be able to communicate with the head referee. The

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>head referee doesn't have to do anything like this guy

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have The guy up top doesn't have the authority

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to stop the game. He can't throw a flag, he

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>can't do any of that. But within the first fifteen

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>seconds of the playclock, he can buzz down. Now, I'll

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>ask you, like in that Saints Rams game, it didn't

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>take fifteen seconds for all of us to know it

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>was the wrong call, right, So in that case, in

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that case, the guy up top would have called down

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to the head referee, where said dropped the flag. The

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>ref would have drop the flag because he trust the

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>guy up top, and we would have had a penalty,

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the Saints would have had a first down, and they'd

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>be going to the super Bowl. And so it's just

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>it's giving them that resource where it's not about getting

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>every every single judgment call right. It's about getting the

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 1>black and white white ones that we know are wrong corrected.

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think that this is an efficient

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>way to do it. It may take a year or

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>two for them to work out the kinks and get

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the right people up top, but it's really really important

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to these coaches that they at least start that process

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty. The chide kick where do we stand

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>with them? So they there have been some unintended consequences

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>that have come up here, and I think what's interesting

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>about it. What's most interesting about it's me, Dan, is

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>that this is a rule that they haven't even put

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in yet and they're already having to fix it. So

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that makes me a little skeptical about where we're going, right,

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you look at it like they like

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>they so we could we didn't have we didn't have

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to have this whole rule for a day before everybody

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>could realize that there were issue is with it. So

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>when they tied up, you know, there was the thought, okay, like,

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>if you have Sady took kick the lead, sascore a touchdown,

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I go up by four points whatever I'm kicking off,

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and there are six seconds left in the game, Well,

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>if I'm that team, rather than kicking it to the

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>other team, wouldn't I just snap the ball into fourth

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and fifteen, tell my quarterback to run around for three

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>seconds and throw it to the moon, Like it would

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>make sense to do that, right, And so they've taken

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>care of that by making it and untimed down. But

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the fact that we're already troubleshooting the thing

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>before it even goes in at least makes me skeptical

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>about how this thing's gonna work less. And I understand

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a safety it's even a health and safety measure

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that they feel like they've got to take the kickoff

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and the on site kicks out of the game. And

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that's all fine. I understand that part of it, and

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand that it's a fun thing for everybody to

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about, but it does make me a little bit

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of I guess just skeptical over the whole thing

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that they're already having to troubleshoot it before it even

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>goes in in three years. Do we have kickoffs in

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I think we do, but I think they're

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna look different. I honestly like if I were the league,

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I would have taken the XFL idea and I would

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>have just implemented in the preseason and see how it works.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look like I can tell you most coaches

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to are really protective of that phase of

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the game, that really believed that it should remain in

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the game, that it's a part of the game, and

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that you be bastardizing the game by taking it out

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of it. And so I know a lot of the

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>special teams coaches have done a lot of hard work

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to try to preserve the kickoff as best they can.

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to do it, but you know, I think

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the XFL found an effective way to sort of attack this,

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, to me, it was inventive, it was fun.

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>It didn't totally take the idea of the kickoff away.

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>You still have kickoff or turn touchdowns. So I know

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>that that's one they've discussed. I'm surprised they didn't at

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>least maybe look at the idea of implementing it for

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the preseason. I'd expect it'll get more discussion in twenty

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. I don't understand that you want to take

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 1>away the onside kick because you don't want another collision

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>or collisions, But then you're going to have the mar

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Key players who were going to come back out on

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the field for a fourth and fifteen. I would rather

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:06.239
<v Speaker 1>have the on side kickoff team than backup linebackers than

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I would I got Patrick Mahomes back there for a

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>fourth and fifteen with the Marquee players on the wide,

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, on the offense and then the defense. You

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>know it's a pass. I don't know you're asking for

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>contact there as well. I mean, is it a past

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>interference down to that's the other thing, right Dan, Yeah?

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean fourth and fifteen? Or do you have a

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>better shot of converting that by just throwing it up

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.959
<v Speaker 1>to Julio Jones and hoping somebody yanks on his jersey?

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Like there are certain things

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like that that could come into play. Two. I actually

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>talked to one coach and This may be a little

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory ish, but there are some coaches that feel

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>like the NFL has, you know, actively look to try

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to take the middle class out of the league. And

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>who's the middle class. Well, the middle class is guys

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like Matt Slater on the Patriots who are making three

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>four million dollars a year and who are playing what

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>like probably six or eight plays a game. And so

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are there are I think there is

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a feeling that there maybe are there are some ulterior

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>motives here on the part of the owners. I don't

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>know how much truth there is to that, but certainly

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that there are coaches that really feel like

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the kickoff is. They've done a lot of work to

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>try to keep the kickoff as is, and they really

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>should try not to bastardize it too much. I'll leave

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you with this, Jadeveon Clowney still on the outside looking

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>in with maybe Tennessee, maybe back to Seattle. The Cleveland

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Browns offered a great deal, which I was surprised. You

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>have Miles Garrett, You're gonna have to pay him. But

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>where does Jadeveon Clowney fit with either of these three teams? Yeah?

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I always thought that his best option was to go

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>back to Seattle, just because I thought that was the

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>best chance for him to have a great year. You know,

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>he's one of these guys that's sort of caught up

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>in the fact that he can't take a physical. There

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>is some instability in his knee. I know, teams that

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>were interested really wanting to have their own doctors get

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>their hands on him. Obviously that's not possible given the circumstances,

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then there are questions about his personality.

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>He really wore out his welcome in Houston. That's another

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>reason why if a team is going to sign him

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to a big deal, they'd want him to come in

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and talk to them. And so those have been issues.

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I think his financial expectations were certainly an issue. He

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>saw guys like Frank Clark and DeMarcus Lawrence Gott and

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, he just shot too high early on. So

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I think his best bet right now is to find

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a place where he can go on a one year

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>deal and go to a place where you know, the

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>scheme's familiar. Cleveland scheme, they run a Seattle type of scheme.

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Scheme would be familiar there. Seattle of course, if they'd

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>have him back, if he could work away to do

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a one year deal there, even if it was for

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>less money, I think it'd be smart because he poised

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<v Speaker 1>to have a big year there. And then of course

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the other one to keep an eye as the Tennessee

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Titans because of his relationship with Mike Rabele. Yeah, this

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is Cleveland's got thirty seven million dollars to spend here, right,

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is that? Why didn't they spend it earlier? I mean,

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>remember who's running the team there too, Dan, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, come hell or high water. They're going all

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<v Speaker 1>in on the analytics model. You can see it in

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the people that they've hired. You can see it in

0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the kind of the way they've set that organization up.

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Paul Deepidesk has a lot of power in that organization

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<v Speaker 1>and the way analytics work. In every sport, right, you

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 1>put values on people and you don't really straight from

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that too much. And so even if you have money

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to spend, if the value is not there, you're not

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>going to spend the money. And so you know, I

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>think that Browns will eventually wind up spending But you

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>look at the positions they spend on. I mean they

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>go and get a tackle tackles a premium position, so

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>they spent on on a Jack conklin Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think really a lot of this boils down to

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<v Speaker 1>know how their models are working and where they're being

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of guided to spend m you know again, like

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're working on in that sort of setup,

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>generally you're going to let value drive you. And if

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't think the value is there, even if you

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>do have the money to spend, you're not going to overspend.

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, Dak Prescott, Yeah, everybody seems to be,

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, sitting on the edge of their seats waiting

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>for Dak Prescott too. What are the options here? July fifteenth,

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, July fifteenth is you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>the date that I think we've all had our eye

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>on the whole time. And deadlines, spur action and if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to look at the Cowboys history, they've generally

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>taken care of all of these guys, you know, Zack Martin,

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith's, DeMarcus Laurens, Zeke, Elliott, Amari Cooper. They take

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>care of their own guys. There are very few guys

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that they have not that they've wanted to keep that

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>they have not been able to lock up long term.

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>The key here, though, Dan's going to be the length

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of the deal just by sitting on his hands, Okay,

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>just by doing nothing. Dak Prescott either gets thirty one

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>million dollars this year and becomes a free agent at

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, seventy million over the next two, free agent

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>at twenty eight, or one hundred and twenty million over

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the next three, and a free agent at twenty nine,

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and so he doesn't do anything. I have to do

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>anything to exercise one of those three options. And so

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have to convince him they're putting something in

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>front of him that is good enough to walk away

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>from those three options. They haven't done that yet. And

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I still think the key to this deal is going

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to be how long it is. Dak Prescott would like

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>a shorter deal that'll allow him to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the table in three or four years and capitalize on

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>all the new TV money, the gambling money coming into

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the league. The Cowboys would like to sign him to

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>a longer deal of five or a six year deal,

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>like they did with Smith, with Elliott, with Lawrence. Yeah,

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's amazing that Dak Prescott is making more money

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>by not doing anything, by just just sitting Like his

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>value keeps going up because you know, DeShawn Watson what

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>he's going to get paid. They're waiting for all of this, right,

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.879
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing, Like, I mean, that's that's where

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>you're playing with fire if you're the Cowboys, right Dan,

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the big one sitting out there's Patrick Mahomes.

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you like, like you could sit here

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and say, well, god, you know, forty million a year

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>seems like a lot for Dak Prescott, and then Pat

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes goes and signs a deal at forty one or

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>forty two, like then what you know what Like then

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>then that's just where the market is. And so you know,

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people have said it's you know,

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it's tough, tough to swallow the idea of Dak Prescott

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 1>at forty million dollars a year. Well, I mean, we

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>can go down the list of guys who were the

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>highest paid players in the league over the last four

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>or five years was Derek Carr. The best player in

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the league was Jimmy Garoppolo. The best player in the

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 1>league was Matt Ryan. The best player in the league

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>was Kirk Cousins, the best player in the league at

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>one point or another. All of those guys were the

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>highest paid player in football. It's just the way you

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.800
<v Speaker 1>paid quarterbacks. And so he's the next one at the table,

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>so he's going to be the highest paid guy. And again,

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it would behoove the Cowboys to try and

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<v Speaker 1>take care of this as soon as they can so

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>they don't wind up having to pay attacks because they

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>waited until after Patrick Mahomes deal is done. Thank you

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>for spending time, Albert, great stuff. Yeah, Dan, Thank you

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter for the Mightday

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Quarterback, Take a break, Play the Day and the

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0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show had somebody who sent me an email about

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the Ohio State Michigan rivalry. Its name is a Jared Carrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Love the Show as someone who lived in Michigan from birth.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Albert Breer is right on the rivalry with Ohio State.

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State doesn't mean as much to Michigan as it

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>does to Ohio State. When I lived in Michigan, our

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>main rivalry was Notre Dame. We got up more for

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that game than we did Ohio State. If you look

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>at it, Michigan has three rivalries, big rivalries, Michigan State,

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame in Ohio State, whereas Ohio State only has Michigan.

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State's tried to bring USC and others in for

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that rivalry, but it's never the same. It's newer and

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 1>not much of a rivalry. So Ohio State really has

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>only one game to get up four, while Michigan has three.

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Do they get up for those three though they're supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Notre Dame Michigan rivalry, but having been

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I've only watched the Ohio State Michigan rivalry from Ohio

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>State being in Columbus, so I haven't seen in Michigan

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Michigan Notre Dame. I think the Danettes a couple of

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>years ago went to that and that was a pretty

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>exciting moment. I think with that game in ann Arbor. Yeah, Poem,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been to a Michigan home game against Ohio State.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been to Ohio State homegame against Michigan, and the

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Michigan seemed like a good time, a party, and it's

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a big game. Obviously, the one hundred and five thousand

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>when you took me to see Ohio State Michigan in Columbus,

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and the entire tone of the town we were there

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for two nights, felt like there was business going on

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that weekend. It was very serious. They didn't seem to

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>be having a good time. It was like, we're here

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to beat Michigan today and then after the game we'll celebrate.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 1>It had a very serious tone. But Ohio State fans

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>understand that every game that they play is big because

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a national title at stake. Ohio State is you know,

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>against Michigan is big because if that's your rivalry, you

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure you don't lose to them because

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 1>any loss is going to hurt you playing for a

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 1>national title. Michigan Michigan, if they lose to Ohio State,

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>they're not playing for a national title. That might mean

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 1>they're playing in the Outbat Bowl instead. Of the Rose Bowl.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Michigan is not on par with Wisconsin

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 1>right now. Michigan State has taken a step back here.

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't think Ohio State looks at

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Michigan as a true rivalry the way it used to

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>be down when I was growing up, Michigan beat Ohio

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>State and that you know, when they had quarterbacks that

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think were great, but they ended up beating

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. Back then, it was Boschem Beckler and he

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>got the best of what he has. But it's changed

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>considerably because urban Meyer brought the sec to Columbus. He

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>brought athletes to Columbus. It wasn't this physical, We're going

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>to dominate you. Urban Meyer brought that Florida feel to

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State and you had true it feels like there's

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 1>a big difference. And you watch the athletes for Ohio

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>State in Michigan, like the recruiting, big difference there. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you see that when you're on the field. McLevin, what's

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>the poll question you're going with? Okay, well, actually I

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>put up for the first hour. If you're an NBA player,

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>do you want your family there? Said? No, we have

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.439
<v Speaker 1>a couple more for a variety of reasons. Yeah, well

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:10.439
<v Speaker 1>we're focusing on competitiveness, of course, and a few months

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>into quarantine, so maybe this side of the glass was voting. No, Hey,

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about. We have a

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>couple of more interesting options that give them. We have

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a Baker Mayfield and a scandalous athlete Poole. We'll hear

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>from Baker Mayfield coming up next down. Also former Mets

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>general manager Steve Phillips, he works for MLB Network on

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Serious XM. Get his thoughts on the players and the

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>owners and how do we settle this? And Jerry West

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>in the final hour One hour in the Books. Two

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:47.879
<v Speaker 1>more to go here on The Dan Patrick Show.