WEBVTT - BONUS EPISODE: Ryan Hurd Interview

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<v Speaker 1>On the Bobby Bones Show. Now heard I think I

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<v Speaker 1>saw in your Instagram you're opening for Sam Hunt this

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<v Speaker 1>past weekend. Yeah, what's the difference for you as far

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<v Speaker 1>as your your mindset before you go on stage, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're like the main support act or if it's your show. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much easier to open these days. There's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a different feel, even if it's two thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>at your own show, like or the thousand people or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever were less than that sometimes for me, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>there there for you. So it's just a different a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a different mindset. But there's also like

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<v Speaker 1>no pressure. I don't get nervous. It's the shorter set.

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<v Speaker 1>It's usually forty five minutes, so that's like by the

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<v Speaker 1>time I'm kind of bored, it's like all right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>over and you go hang out. And Sam has always

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<v Speaker 1>been cool at US I toured with We toured with

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<v Speaker 1>him on the fifteen and a thirty tour and Marin

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<v Speaker 1>was on it, and uh so we know the camp.

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<v Speaker 1>And the next night I went and we did Summer

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<v Speaker 1>Fest in Milwaukee for the first time and tr was

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<v Speaker 1>the headliner that night, so I got to see Sam

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<v Speaker 1>and Thomas this last week Kins, so that was really cool. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just a little bit of a different mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also less pressure and I don't get very

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<v Speaker 1>nervous at all or anything. So you're in a cool

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<v Speaker 1>place where you can absolutely go headline your own shows

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a ton of songs and people are

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<v Speaker 1>very passionate about you. But you're also you can make

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent chunk of change being main support for another

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<v Speaker 1>artist and like you said, play. I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Dan and shakes it open for Kenny right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, it's awesome. Yeah, like we we could go out.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to, you know, take all our equipment, go

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<v Speaker 1>out and just have fun. Yeah, it's it's a different

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to switch it up, like switch your days

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<v Speaker 1>up too, because at some point you want to headline

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and you want to play late in

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<v Speaker 1>the day at festivals. But it's also nice to be

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<v Speaker 1>done at like eight thirty and you don't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>else to do, like all right, I'll just like watch

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<v Speaker 1>the show or drink a beer or go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, I think everybody enjoys the change of pace.

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<v Speaker 1>When do you get tired? Meaning in a year, is

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<v Speaker 1>there a season and you start to go because for me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we start in January doing the radio show,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I take out all the other stuff to TV,

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<v Speaker 1>the traveling, but just the radio show alone, about June,

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<v Speaker 1>I start to get fatigued for the first time. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a touring fatigue? And when does it usually hit?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll preface the answer by saying, we basically took

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<v Speaker 1>two years off like we did. We did shows during

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<v Speaker 1>COVID times, but not like a tour um so those

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<v Speaker 1>were pretty easy to just kind of come in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of. But so we started second week of January

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and I think that once you start, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be tired the whole year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you you do shows and you ride busses and you

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<v Speaker 1>get it like it's it's it's really fun, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of rest in it. So the

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<v Speaker 1>way that I kind of manage my time is if

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<v Speaker 1>I touch an airplane or a bus, that's a work day.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it's like I'm leaving at nine o'clock at

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<v Speaker 1>night or getting home at like seven am on the

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<v Speaker 1>bus drops off drops me off at my house, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a workday. So Sunday to me is not a day off.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually have to take another day off in the

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<v Speaker 1>week just so I can have like some time to

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<v Speaker 1>my to just be a human, hang out with my

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<v Speaker 1>kid or whatever. So but usually Sundays we're just worthless

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<v Speaker 1>people Like we both get home, get dropped off, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you just kind of like look at look, I

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<v Speaker 1>look at Mary and she listen to me, like let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a nap, because you just no matter how you

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<v Speaker 1>do it, it's exhausting. The travel just wears you out.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Thompson used to say this thing, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't come up with it, but he said, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay me for the show. The show is free.

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<v Speaker 1>You pay me for getting there and getting back, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the part that's work. So um, we really are

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<v Speaker 1>blessed to both get to do it. Um we have

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<v Speaker 1>like this weird uh like I don't know, we just

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<v Speaker 1>have an understanding about where we both need to be

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we're really blessed to be making a living

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. But it is exhausting no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>you do it, it's it's it'll wear you out all year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a romantic thought of being on a

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<v Speaker 1>bus and listen, I try. I've you know, done a

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<v Speaker 1>little tours and cars and vans and that really stinks

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<v Speaker 1>and a bus is much better than that. But even

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<v Speaker 1>when you're sleeping on a bus, you're driving overnight, and

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<v Speaker 1>I never because I'm I and we have a big

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<v Speaker 1>what they called the star bunk in the back, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have my own little room, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>never really comfortable because the bus is always moving or

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the thing on the side of the road, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're just never you're never just totally safe feeling. You're

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<v Speaker 1>always like knock on wood, let's let's make it yeah

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<v Speaker 1>at night. So I sleep better in a bunk, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, we have every kind of bus

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine out between the two of us, and

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<v Speaker 1>I still I sleep in a bunk because I like

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<v Speaker 1>to be confined like that. Is that more comfortable? Whatever reason?

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<v Speaker 1>I just those those crew busses ride smoother to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I for I just that's what I like. So

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<v Speaker 1>the we have on you know, Marin's bus has a

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<v Speaker 1>star coach in the back, and we have our own

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<v Speaker 1>apartment back there. But I it just feels like we

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<v Speaker 1>bounced more on it, So I like, I like the

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<v Speaker 1>bunk from when I'm just out with myself. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, that bus. I'll never ever speak poorly of

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<v Speaker 1>of touring on a bus because it saves you. It

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<v Speaker 1>really does. Like getting home at seven am, getting to

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<v Speaker 1>have a whole day with your kid, have like half

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend almost on Sunday for us is usually what

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<v Speaker 1>it is is pretty special and important, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember the one time where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can make a lot more money if I just

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<v Speaker 1>like suck it up and drive the van and there's

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<v Speaker 1>like no more van, Like we you need to be home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your quality alife is terrible. So that was like five

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and I just remember her being the one

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<v Speaker 1>that made that decision, and it was a good decision.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a family decision, like whatever, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you like don't make as much money we we, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to get home. So the thing about the bus

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get off this. But I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>I learned early on was first of all we had

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<v Speaker 1>run on was like five grand a weekend, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I was like what, Yeah, you cannot get

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<v Speaker 1>in that deal anymore either, because are so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get now, so before pandemic, I pay like five grand

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend and you know that comes out of the

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<v Speaker 1>money that you're making, and you're like wow, And then

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta pay. If you drive over eight hours, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta take an extra bus driver. And most of the

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<v Speaker 1>trips will eight hours, so we have to put two drivers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that takes an extra bunk and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fit everybody in. And what also is you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>drive in the daytime because you don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>awake while you're moving. You know, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if the bus would leave, we leave at

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<v Speaker 1>eleven midnight, one o'clock. Your goal is to get on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus and sleep. That's the when the bus is moving,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be asleep exactly. And so when you

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<v Speaker 1>see people on tour, be like, man, it must be

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. The goal is to be asleep on the

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<v Speaker 1>tour bus. It's good to have when you're awake, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's to be asleep on the bus. It's definitely a tool,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's part of it, and it's really important, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is fun. Don't don'tlet anybody tell you that being

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<v Speaker 1>on the bus isn't fun. It's blast, but it's what

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<v Speaker 1>you dream about when you're fourteen years old. Is like

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<v Speaker 1>living on a tour bus. I'm serious. I every day

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<v Speaker 1>I get up on that thing, I'm like, gosh, I

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<v Speaker 1>really wish I was home, but this is pretty sweet. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're right. It's like there's little things about it

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<v Speaker 1>that I think and it's really fun showing people like

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you go, I go. Everywhere I go. My day

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<v Speaker 1>starts at three o'clock when I go to eleven in

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<v Speaker 1>my own like sound checks at three, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on we have radio, and then we have friends and

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<v Speaker 1>we have meet and greet and we have but every

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<v Speaker 1>day someone's like, hey, can you meet my friend? And

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<v Speaker 1>I love doing that stuff, so you and then like

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you got there too, Like I'll always have guests

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<v Speaker 1>out too, and I love having them up on the

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<v Speaker 1>bus because they're just like looking around and everybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know, like what's on the inside of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>most it's bananas and protein bars for us, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got like you know, if everyone wants a beer, you

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<v Speaker 1>can have a beer, but but don't get out of hand, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're all working, so keep it between the navigational beacons,

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<v Speaker 1>as Alan Jackson would stay. I have a question, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you come to Nashville and you have always

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<v Speaker 1>been an artist, but you're at started as far as

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<v Speaker 1>your commercial success as a songwriter. So it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting journey from a songwriter to a performer. What's it

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<v Speaker 1>like looking back at that career journey now? I still

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<v Speaker 1>think of myself as a writer, and I know Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Goodman hates it when I say that. At my record

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<v Speaker 1>label president, he hates when I say I think of

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<v Speaker 1>myself as a writer. But that's where everything starts for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love getting to do both things. I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about my career as a pair of shoes, like I

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<v Speaker 1>have a right foot writing songs for myself and other people,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the left foot is being an artist and

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<v Speaker 1>singing them and traveling and touring. And I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>imagine doing this without both. And someday I'll probably have

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<v Speaker 1>to back one of them down. But while they're both working,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really fun to get an opportunity to just still

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<v Speaker 1>write for people like Jordan Davis and Marin and Lady A,

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<v Speaker 1>like those people are my friends and and it's so

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<v Speaker 1>natural to write songs with them still and I still

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<v Speaker 1>have that opportunity to get on their records. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I still have a lot to offer as a

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<v Speaker 1>songwriter for other people. And then at the other we

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about it, like and then I get to

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<v Speaker 1>get on a tour bus on Wednesday night and go

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<v Speaker 1>play my songs for a bunch of people who know them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a dream come true. So um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I do both things and I still get to

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't really I don't have to make a

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<v Speaker 1>choice yet and maybe someday I will. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that journey is it is sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten to do everything and I still get to

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<v Speaker 1>do everything, and I'm really enjoying that. And the great

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<v Speaker 1>thing about a bus is you can actually ride on

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<v Speaker 1>a bus if you want to. Yeah, I was out

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<v Speaker 1>with Thomas this weekend. We played Summer Fest on the

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<v Speaker 1>same night and so we wrote a song. It was great,

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<v Speaker 1>so we It's always fun to see your buddies on

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<v Speaker 1>the road and it's always you know, I've also as

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<v Speaker 1>an artist, like my music has been the best marketing

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<v Speaker 1>tool for me. So I put out an album and

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Cole Swindell. I became buddies because he

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<v Speaker 1>liked to a T and I liked break up in

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<v Speaker 1>the end, and we talked about it on Twitter, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden we were writing songs together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think I've ever had a cold cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe someday, but that's about a few cold cuts. Pet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a good example of like cold cut,

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<v Speaker 1>cold cut, cold cuts. I'm gonna have some cold cut, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a good example of, like my artist thing,

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<v Speaker 1>opening doors. As a writer, do you ever think about

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<v Speaker 1>what would be like if you went down a different

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<v Speaker 1>road in your life, as in maybe not an artist

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<v Speaker 1>or a musician or were you ever close to that?

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<v Speaker 1>I as soon as like halfway through college, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to Belmont, and everyone who goes to

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<v Speaker 1>Belmont A lot of most people who moved to Nashville

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Belmont and do music some one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another music business or but I went and saw

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<v Speaker 1>everybody doing these music programs, either the business side or

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<v Speaker 1>the performance side or something that had to do with music,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, they're all gonna zig. I'm gonna zag.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went and did sociology and e con and

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<v Speaker 1>got a degree and was going to go to grad school,

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<v Speaker 1>and then about halfway through as kind of I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like made it, like found out what a songwriter

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville was, so I kind of put all of

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<v Speaker 1>my eggs in that basket and started writing country songs.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I guess like I would have gone to

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<v Speaker 1>graduate school and maybe done something else, but I've never

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<v Speaker 1>really had to. I think the cool part about music

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<v Speaker 1>is like most of us don't have a plan B,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I don't. I don't know. I always say,

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<v Speaker 1>like what you say, like I would be the left

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<v Speaker 1>fielder for the Cubs. No, I wouldn't, But like I

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<v Speaker 1>like sports growing up and I liked music growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>and but this is the only job I've ever wanted

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<v Speaker 1>since I was eleven years old. So I don't know. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe when I was a kid, my dad used to

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<v Speaker 1>work in advertising, and I always thought, like, if nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>I can go do something with my dad, either at

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<v Speaker 1>the company's working for and at one time he had

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<v Speaker 1>he had an advertising agency, and like, maybe I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>do something like that, But it never really came to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's mostly like thinking about what I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>after all this is over because your window doesn't last forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for some people it does. But like being

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<v Speaker 1>realistic about my own life, like unless like I I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that we have a whole lot more success, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, like you're only given

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<v Speaker 1>what you're given, and so I'm trying to really enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>this part of my life. And then you also in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of your mind, are like, Okay, what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm old and nobody cares about my songs anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Happens to everybody? It doesn't. It happens to everybody. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I think about, we're all gonna die. Oh man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can be you can do this till you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for me, it's like what happens when I'm forty,

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<v Speaker 1>And like only if I get higher ratings me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Your road to Vegas and the I Heartready and Music

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<v Speaker 1>Festival has been a unique one. How does it feel

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<v Speaker 1>playing this awesome festival? I'm just thrilled to be invited.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the bill the other day and I

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't believe that my name was next to everybody else's. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously it's been a dream come true to

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<v Speaker 1>have my songs on the radio. That's every single time

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<v Speaker 1>somebody plays your song, whether I wrote it or whether

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<v Speaker 1>I sing it, that's a every time. It's a dream

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<v Speaker 1>come true because I grew up listening into country radio.

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<v Speaker 1>So to get an opportunity to like go to a

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<v Speaker 1>festival like this for the people that have supported you

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<v Speaker 1>and made your dreams come true as a massive a

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<v Speaker 1>massive deal for me. And uh, to get to play

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<v Speaker 1>it on the same day as Marin is really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We always love doing that and uh, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a busy day, but it's gonna be a lot of fun. There.

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<v Speaker 1>He is Ryan Hard. Ryan could have talked to you, buddy,