WEBVTT - The Bowl Barge: Part 2 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.920 Welcome to the Solid Verbo. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:05.600 I'll that for me. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.680 I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.639 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:13.000 for day Edith State? 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:13.680 Is that? 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:19.400 Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to the 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.720 Solid Burbo Boys. Girls. My name is ty hillibrand joining 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.200 me as always over there in New York City, my 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:27.720 man Dan Rubinstein. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.840 Sir, how are you? I'm good, ty I'm ready to 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:31.000 board this barge. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:37.239 Oh yeah, so so yeah. We are not doing the 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:43.319 tues cruise per se no anymore. However, as we did 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:49.800 our last Bowl preview show, you mentioned the Bowl barge. Yeah, 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.599 which is I'm guessing because you just couldn't quit the 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.440 nautically themed content that we had going on a weekend 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.000 week out. Basis, here on the show. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.800 We have a heavy load of Bowl previews to transport 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.040 to our listeners to the loyal verballer's tie. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.959 And it's not it's not always sexy. Sometimes it just 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.800 plods along and floats, but exactly right. We are making 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:16.600 mass deliveries here of Bowl projections. This is our second show. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.280 I'm just going to play the sounds. I'm very excited 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:19.920 about as. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:24.640 The souls is here, all of the military, Pin Strike, Texas, 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:31.000 Holiday Camping World, Caughton, first Responders, Music City, Red Books, and. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:37.759 Watch Oh that is so dark day, Red Bucks, Red Books. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.360 You will notice if you are paying close attention, if 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.280 you're figuring out the dates of games in which we 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:50.240 are talking on which whatever the cheese It bowl's not there? No, Wow, 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.960 that's right, because Tye sent me an email and I 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:55.920 have it in front of me right now, and he said, 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.480 I don't believe the Air Force is a legitimate part 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.160 of the United States military. I said that, I did say, 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.840 and I'd like to go on record as saying I disagree. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.240 I say we it's okay to have a presence in 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.240 the air in these verrier. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.280 People are gonna think that you're serious, and I'm going 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.520 to get emails about that. But that's fine, that's fine. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.679 I forgot the cheese ball. I don't know how I 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.560 could forget about the cheese at Bull. It's the one 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.840 ball I didn't want to forget. But a last We've 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.120 got it on the sheet. Now we're going to talk 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.880 about it tonight. You've done over there, Okay, care far? 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.880 Sorry? I was singing my Air Force song. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.919 Thank you one, Thank you all for stopping on by, 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.800 for downloading the show, don't forget. You can subscribe to 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.480 our show anywhere you get your podcasts. You can find 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.119 the Solid Verbal. You can also follow us out there 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.320 on social media. We got all sorts of channels and 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.400 join in on the subreddit at solidverbal dot reddit dot com, 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:56.200 where our boy Peter recently announced that I won the 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:00.240 Fantasy Things contest that was on this year. Thank you 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.960 very much, fifty two to forty nine your final score. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.440 It is amazing that for the third or fourth year 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.000 running now was this damn close every year. It is 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:10.840 that damn close. 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.480 Yeah no, I liked it better to me when I 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.800 got to score it myself. I like it when it 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.000 was pick up rules like call your own fouls. That 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.400 was my favorite era of Fantasy Things. But this one's 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:23.119 pretty good too. 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:23.880 It is. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.359 It is pretty good, and we appreciate everyone out there, 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:30.200 indiever ballerhood, helping us keep score. It's always a ton 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.440 of fun to do that show. But bye bye, sorry, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.080 keep going. I just am throwing my support and I 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.839 know you're just not continue huh boy, here we go. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.640 Sorry, it did the. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.320 Wild Blue Yonder. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.960 All right, I'm done. Continue. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:54.760 The main topic of this show, yeah, is hopping aboard 0:03:54.800 --> 0:04:01.080 the bullbarge the bulls. Yeah, come story, pop aboard that 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.800 bull barge and let's preview the Bowl games that are 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:10.680 played between the twenty seventh of December and the thirtieth 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.080 of December. We're going to do it together. Yeah, And 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.080 I can assure you that the trip will be more 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.080 fun if you sign up for the Bowl Confidence Pool. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:20.480 Oh, I agree. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.359 Right now, we've got over six hundred members. We've had 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.520 routinely well over one thousand in previous iterations. My guess 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.479 is by the time Bowl season officially kicks off, we 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.280 will be there. You can jump in on the fun. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.520 It's free to play at solid verbal dot com slash 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.479 pick them. It's over on ESPN. You can win a 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.839 gift card from our friends over at roeback. They have 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.720 generously donated to the cause here, so please do tell 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:47.800 your friends and family. We've opened it up so you 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.640 can actually submit two entries if you want to tinker 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.720 and mess around with your slide rule to get your 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.040 percentages just right. Whatever works for you, We're here to 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:02.440 support you in the cause. Is Solidverbal dot com slash 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.360 Pick them is how you can get in on all 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:06.080 of that action. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.680 Dan, Yeah, I am in full support. I love pick 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:09.320 them time of year. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:13.080 Have you Have you made your official entry yet? I've 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:13.720 made the entry. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.680 I have not submitted all of my picks yet. I'm 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.360 about two thirds of the way through and feeling pretty 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:20.000 nice ty. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.320 Yeah, I feel good about this. 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.800 Actually, I feel very good that. I don't know if 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.440 I'm in a place in the top. I don't know 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.920 one percent of the solid verbal pool itself, but I'm 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.359 going to bury you. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.400 Okay, Oh my god, Do I feel a. 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:35.080 Bit about that? 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:43.839 Before we get into bulls though. Yeah. Boo boo boo, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.360 boo boom. Shout out to everybody who missed the boot 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:46.960 boot boops. 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.000 They're back boot boop. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.599 Caleb de Boor hired by Fresno. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:52.320 Yes he was. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.680 Yeah, he was previously at Fresno before we went to 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.560 Indiana to call plays for a year. But being so 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.480 there was an opening they were happy to welcome him back. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:06.720 We also have Danny Gonzalez going from Arizona State over 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.440 to New Mexico. He was previously the defensive coordinator. I 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:11.680 believe DC. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.240 Yeah, DC for Rocky long at San Diego State, so 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.599 it appears that New Mexico's defense will be getting a 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:18.320 shot in the arm. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.800 Another news tidbit here is that USC has extended Graham 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:27.719 Harrell for three years. Is one point two million per year? 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.440 Yeah, and I don't even know if I don't know 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.560 what Texas was officially bidding for him, but that was 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.760 USC doing its best to keep him away from returning 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.080 home to the lone Star State. And I have to 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.360 admit it's pretty attractive to get Keaton Slovas and really 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.640 build your reputation around USC's offense for the next couple 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.239 of years, at least if Clay Helton sticks around, because 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:51.880 there's a lot of weaponry there. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.159 Yeah, there is. We're going to talk about the USC 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.120 game here in a little bit when we get to 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.279 the Holiday Bowl. But an intriguing match, and I've got 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.080 some stuff to say about that weaponry. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.919 Yes. Also speaking of Texas, Chris ash returning to coach 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.400 alongside Tom Herman. They were together as coordinators at Ohio 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.360 State on their national championship team the twenty fourteen season, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.280 and after an unsuccessful run to say the least, at Rutgers, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.240 he is doing what he probably does best. You remember 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.360 he was also quite good at Wisconsin before moving on 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.880 to I think Arkansas and then Ohio State. Real quick, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.080 we have some more early NFL draft entries. You know, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:38.080 Benjamin Arizona State, AJ Dillon Gabriel Davis, UCF, CJ. Henderson Florida, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.760 Lynn Bowden, our guy Jeff Thomas from Miami, Hunter Bryant, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.240 I don't know if we mentioned him, the tight end 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.000 from Washington. Should also be mentioned that these guys are 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.080 skipping their bowl games. Some of them were previewing today 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.520 and some of them other days. Are we already have, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.160 but some of the big ones Alabama corner and linebacker, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.080 I mean, so be Trevon Diggs as the corner, Terrell 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.520 Lewis the linebacker, Louisville's left tack. I think we have 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.960 Louisville in this slate of games. Mackai Becton a monster 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.600 of a man. We've talked about him in a dude 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.440 type preview. CJ. Henderson actually not playing in the game. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:15.440 Also entering the draft early, Brandon Ayuk Arizona State, Minnesota's linebacker, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.360 Kamal Martin Washington and we mentioned him. Alex Hornybrook is 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.200 not going to be drafted. Was he going to play 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.800 anyway in the bowl game. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.000 I don't think so. He's just gone from the program. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:31.120 He's just like Dona Dontavius Jackson at Florida State as well. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.160 Cam Akers will skip the bowl game. Jalen Johnson, the 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.559 very good corner free Utah not playing. And I believe 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:41.319 the Alamo Bowl justin I think it's Metabouquet right, the 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.800 had a defensive tackle at afitexas A and M who 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.440 is very very good. AJ Dillon is not playing in 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.240 the game. And Washington's left tackle Trey Adams not playing 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.079 in the I believe it's the Vegas Bowl. And should 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.079 also we mentioned because we talked about USC's offense, Jack Sears, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.760 who transferred before the season and he was between what 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.160 between Slovas and Figer. I don't know how it ended 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.200 up after camp, but he came in twenty eighteen and 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.640 beat ASU, or was good against ASU, I should say. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:14.400 And he's transferring to San Diego State. Okay, that's it. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.760 I think that that's the news to cover at the 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.280 moment we're doing this. We're recording this Tuesday, five pm 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.080 ish Eastern, So National Signing Day is tomorrow. Fear not, 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.920 we will have recruiting and Signing Day content at some point. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:35.720 Okay, yeah, should we cover our bases and announce that 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.200 Nick Saban has retired, just in case it happens between 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.000 now and Sunday. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:44.520 Yeah, O, man, I love that SNL sketch. Jimmy Gerald 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.360 Ford today tragic age. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:47.880 It's great. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.040 All right, let's start off with our first bowl game. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.160 We've got a bunch to get through here, the Military 0:09:55.160 --> 0:10:02.400 Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman. Grumman, Yes, Grumman, Yeah, grooman tomato, tomato. 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.199 It is December twenty seventh on ESPN. It is North 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.679 Carolina at six and six. It is Temple at eight 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:14.880 and four. North Carolina is a five point favorite. Here, Dan, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.040 Now look, I get that this isn't a big time 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:25.680 bowl game. But but but I cannot possibly emphasize enough 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.080 how big of a deal it is that Carolina won 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.120 six games this year. Before the year, I went back 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:36.880 and checked my acc notes. Right before the year, I 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.199 had jotted down with an asterisk and highlighted that five 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:46.040 wins would be an absolute miracle in a revelation. Wow, yeah, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.760 and now here we are. They got to six. They 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.480 got Sam Howell Bacon in the oven, which is how 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.440 pretty exciting, got a really young offense and a wide 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.600 open ACC coastal. I think, I think there's a lot 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.439 to be excited about if you're a North Carolina fan. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.320 This was a very successful first year for Mac Brown. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:05.520 Dan. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.400 Yeah, and we had talked about before the season, we'll 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.280 get into the game momentarily that even last year they 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.600 were in basically every game, it was a lot of 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.679 three and five point losses, and this year's losses six points, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.240 three points, one point to Clemson, two points at Virginia Tech, 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.000 a touchdown to Virginia, and they lost to pit by 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.320 a touchdown. So all single digit losses, including that one 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.640 pointer at home against Clemson. So North Carolina at the 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.440 very very least, even though their record says six and six, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:34.640 they're a. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.960 Competitive tip We'll fight you, man, they will fight you. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.640 They're a competitive team. And this game is interesting to 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.800 me at least because it matches I think strength for 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.880 strength in North Carolina's offense and Temple's defense. Temple themselves 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.200 they won three of their final four. They did beat 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.400 Memphis and Philly, the G five team to play in 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.000 a New year, six Bowl. Temple's offense pretty rough, defense 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.760 is pretty good, very very good against the past. So 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.920 Sam Howell has I think a bit of a challenge, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.600 especially since he's going to be dodging Quincy Roche, who 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:08.320 I watched more of just in preparing for this game, 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.800 and my god, what a total dude. He was the 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.160 American Defensive Player of the Year. And guess what, tye. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.000 The North Carolina offensive line, Yeah they'll give up a sack. Yeah, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.080 they'll give up a sack. So yeah, the North Carolina 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.360 defense also isn't great, but that's okay because Temple's offense 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.040 isn't either. So I'm looking forward to this one being 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.720 pretty competitive, and as as is my desire to do 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.960 a lot of the times during the early part of 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.760 the Bowl season, I just go with the clearly better defense. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.280 So I'm taking Temple by a field goal, really I am. Yeah, wow, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:46.000 See I like Carolina here. Okay, there was a stretch 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:51.520 in October when Temple played Memphis, SMU, and UCF on 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:57.120 consecutive weeks. Yeah, they got drilled by both SU and UCF. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.240 And you're right to point out that they beat Memphis, 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.880 but they were sort of outplayed in that game. The 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.120 reason they won my two points, I believe was because 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.480 they forced four turnovers. That's a good thing. It's a 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.000 very good thing in my opinion. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.400 But otherwise otherwise, I think they were sort of outplayed 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.880 in that game. I think mac Brown has his boys 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.719 fired up. I think it's a big game coming for 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.360 Sam Howell and Oh if I could add a cherry 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.400 on top Rod Kerry in bowl games, Dan, are you 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:27.440 familiar with the steps? 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:27.560 Oh? 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:28.400 Yeah, I do know this. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.240 Go for it? Oh in six in bowl games? 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:31.920 Yeah? 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.400 As a coach, Rodkerry not the strongest bull season coach. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.960 I've got North Carolina here. I like them a lot. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.040 I got sixteen confidence points riding on this one. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.079 Yeah Temple did she lack what duke last year? And 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.080 Daniel Jones so at least that they have that going 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.360 for him, I do have down here. Attempts to obtain 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:56.199 the list of gifts from the committee were unsuccessful. Military 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.760 ball wow. And as for food recommendations, ask our friend 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.800 to Murray. I believe he lives in the greater Annapolis area. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.679 One Tim Murray on Twitter. If you need food recommendation, 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:07.520 I am having. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.480 A disappointed you didn't steer into the whole military angle 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.520 and say that the gifts are redacted. 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:13.520 M M. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.960 That's good. I am going to watch the report tonight, Ty. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:16.920 So I'm in the mood. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.560 The new era pinch stripe bowl. Where's my hat? I 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.280 got my hat around here? Somewhere there is hold on. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:31.600 I'm putting this on. Please here we go, okay. Also 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:36.440 on the twenty seventh, also on ESPN, it is Michigan 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.000 State at six and six. It is Wake Forest at 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.960 eight and four. The Spartans are a five point favorite. Dan, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:44.640 who you got here? 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.160 I think I like Michigan State, which is a very 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.800 dangerous thing to say out loud, even though I'm alone 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.080 and nobody can hear me besides you and many of 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:58.640 our closest listeners. Sparti lost five straight before beating Maryland 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.880 and Rutgers. Their offense couldn't really do much all season long. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.720 It wasn't an out and out night May but just 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.280 a regular old nightmare. Their defense still pretty strong. The 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.239 rush defense was better than their past defense. Kenny Willikis, 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.640 is that dude still for that defense? Off the edge? 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.040 And Wake is sort of the opposite. Their offense is 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.600 kind of decent, but they're down stage Surrat, who was 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.480 an incredible receiver all ACC talent. They finished losing three 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.600 of four, and I guess if we're going to talk 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.120 about I just I guess I have a crush on 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:35.160 Edge guys today. Carlos basham very very good for Wake. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.600 He's worth watching all first team ACC. But I just 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.200 I'm not a big believer in Wake without Sage Surrat 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.320 and ability to change a game on offense. So I 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.400 am taking Sparti by three here. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.960 Sparty by three, Okay, yeah, yeah, I. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.720 Mean you'll be in an ugly, ugly sixteen thirteen whatever 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:52.320 kind of game. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:57.520 You'll remember that. Consider Wake cash tag. Consider Wake was 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.120 born after a seven and one start for the Demon Deacons. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.960 The problem was the last four weeks of the season, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.920 though they lost at Virginia a tack and Clemson also 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.560 at Syracuse to close out the year. Cus is a 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.440 mess this season, so that was not a good way 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:18.680 to finish things off. Downstage, Surrat all, that doesn't inspire 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.960 a whole lot of confidence. And that's not to say 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.600 that Michigan State inspires confidence. No, let's not pretend. Let's 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.880 not pretend that anything in Michigan State's season gives us 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:32.920 a whole lot to work with here. They lost Illinois, Indiana. Yeah, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.000 beat Indiana, but lost ten to seven that horrible game 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.480 early on against ASU, which I have tried to forget. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:44.920 They got smoked by Wisconsin, Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan, 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.160 so this has not been a good team at all. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.080 I will, though, emphasize a point that you brought up, 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.440 and that is to say that even though the Michigan 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.200 State defense was not quite what we expected, they were 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.080 still pretty good. Still pretty good, and I think that 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:05.119 poses a challenge for wake Forest. So I agree a close, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.240 ugly game. I would not want to bet this one 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.640 minus the five or plus the five. I just would 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.280 stay away from it. But I like Michigan State, and 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.399 I'm gonna say eight confidence points on this one. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:20.560 Gift suite includes JBL Harmon, JBL slash Harmon gift card 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.840 seeing it's some audio gear, right ty, Oh yeah, buddy, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.600 a variety of new era products, and as for food, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.199 I assume people are not staying in the Bronx. There 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.000 are many more hotels in Manhattan and surrounding areas. Let 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:33.920 me know, let me know what you're interested in. I'll 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:34.400 help you out. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.480 Dan Is coming to your dinner party. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:38.720 I mean, depends where you're going. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.440 You just have to pay. But if you pay, he'll 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:40.879 show up. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.760 I'll be in Florida. But if you're going somewhere real good, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:49.639 all right, we'll see the Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl. 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.480 Yeah, that's a mouthful. It is December twenty seventh, Also 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.920 on ESPN, Texas A and M at seven and five, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.080 Oklahoma State at eight and four. The point spread here 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.720 is seven in favor of the Aggies. Dan, So, I'm 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.919 a little biased here. I've been talking up Texas A 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.639 and M for a while now. I stand by the 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.400 fact that they may be the best seven and five 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:13.160 team in the country. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.119 I have it literally written down Tie's best seven and 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:17.200 five team in America. 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.960 I like them here by seven to ten. I do 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.520 think they'll have their hands full with Chuba Hubbard, but 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.640 that is pretty much the case for everyone, so they're 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.720 not unique in that sense. I just feel in my 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.320 bones that they are the better team here. I'm not 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.000 gonna second guess it. I'm gonna say A and M 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.119 to the tune of twenty one confidence points. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.760 Okay, fair enough. A and M did lose two of 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.280 their final three. It was close against Georgia with some 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.560 questionable I guess no calls against the Dogs, and then 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:51.200 just by LSU. The defense pretty dece They ran pretty 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.720 well at times despite an injury to what Jayshawn Corbyn. 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.280 They're the guy who started the year at running back. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.399 They didn't really go downfield a ton with Kellen Mond 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:05.280 and I think I like them comfortably against Oklahoma State, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.960 who did finish the season pretty strong. They beat TCU 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.200 and Iowa State. I just I don't love their defense. 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.800 Spencer Sanders is a maybe he had thumb surgery near 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.200 the end of the season. Scheba Hubbard, who you mentioned, 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.040 I think is probable he was beat up near the 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.520 end of the year. I think A and M really 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.760 does a great job against them. It's a sort of 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.400 a de facto home game games in Houston, right yep, yep, 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.280 so not far at all from College Station. So I 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.600 have A and M by about ten points. We agree, 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:36.960 We agree, and gift Suite Academy Sports and Outdoors gift card, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.080 a Justin Cowboy hat, a belt buckle, a bandana, and 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.639 Adidas s Duffel bag, a shoe bag and a toiletry 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:44.400 bag which. 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.320 I think is one of your more under shoe. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.760 And toiletry bags. Very underrated. Yeah, I don't know what 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.959 a shoe bag is. I guess something to protect your 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:52.919 shoes when you travel. 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:54.600 Yeah, you pay. 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