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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbo.

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Speaker 2: I'll that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for day Edith State?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Solid Burbo Boys. Girls. My name is ty hillibrand joining

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Speaker 1: me as always over there in New York City, my

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Speaker 1: man Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 3: Sir, how are you? I'm good, ty I'm ready to

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Speaker 3: board this barge.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so so yeah. We are not doing the

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Speaker 1: tues cruise per se no anymore. However, as we did

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Speaker 1: our last Bowl preview show, you mentioned the Bowl barge. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is I'm guessing because you just couldn't quit the

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Speaker 1: nautically themed content that we had going on a weekend

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Speaker 1: week out. Basis, here on the show.

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Speaker 3: We have a heavy load of Bowl previews to transport

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Speaker 3: to our listeners to the loyal verballer's tie.

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Speaker 1: And it's not it's not always sexy. Sometimes it just

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Speaker 1: plods along and floats, but exactly right. We are making

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Speaker 1: mass deliveries here of Bowl projections. This is our second show.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to play the sounds. I'm very excited

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Speaker 2: The souls is here, all of the military, Pin Strike, Texas,

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Speaker 2: Holiday Camping World, Caughton, first Responders, Music City, Red Books, and.

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Speaker 1: Watch Oh that is so dark day, Red Bucks, Red Books.

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Speaker 3: You will notice if you are paying close attention, if

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Speaker 3: you're figuring out the dates of games in which we

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Speaker 3: are talking on which whatever the cheese It bowl's not there? No, Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's right, because Tye sent me an email and I

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Speaker 3: have it in front of me right now, and he said,

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Speaker 3: I don't believe the Air Force is a legitimate part

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Speaker 3: and I'd like to go on record as saying I disagree.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna think that you're serious, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get emails about that. But that's fine, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I forgot the cheese ball. I don't know how I

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Speaker 1: ball I didn't want to forget. But a last We've

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Speaker 1: got it on the sheet. Now we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about it tonight. You've done over there, Okay, care far?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? I was singing my Air Force song.

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Speaker 1: where our boy Peter recently announced that I won the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Things contest that was on this year. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much, fifty two to forty nine your final score.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing that for the third or fourth year

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, I liked it better to me when I

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Speaker 1: It is pretty good, and we appreciate everyone out there,

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Speaker 1: Wild Blue Yonder.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm done. Continue.

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Speaker 1: The main topic of this show, yeah, is hopping aboard

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Speaker 1: the bullbarge the bulls. Yeah, come story, pop aboard that

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Speaker 1: bull barge and let's preview the Bowl games that are

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Speaker 1: Right now, we've got over six hundred members. We've had

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Speaker 3: Dan, Yeah, I am in full support. I love pick

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Speaker 1: Have you Have you made your official entry yet? I've

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Speaker 1: Before we get into bulls though. Yeah. Boo boo boo,

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start off with our first bowl game.

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Speaker 1: We've got a bunch to get through here, the Military

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Speaker 1: Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman. Grumman, Yes, Grumman, Yeah, grooman tomato, tomato.

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Speaker 1: It is December twenty seventh on ESPN. It is North

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Speaker 1: Carolina at six and six. It is Temple at eight

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Speaker 1: Now look, I get that this isn't a big time

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Speaker 1: and now here we are. They got to six. They

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Speaker 1: This was a very successful first year for Mac Brown.

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had talked about before the season, we'll

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Speaker 1: Sparty by three, Okay, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: You'll remember that. Consider Wake cash tag. Consider Wake was

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Speaker 1: Dan Is coming to your dinner party.

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Speaker 3: I mean, depends where you're going.

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Speaker 3: I'll be in Florida. But if you're going somewhere real good,

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Speaker 3: all right, we'll see the Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a mouthful. It is December twenty seventh, Also

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Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. A and M did lose two of

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Speaker 1: The only other point on this game, I believe. Marty

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Speaker 3: And obviously Iowa took down Minnesota, a darling of the

437
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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen college football season. Later on in the season

438
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Speaker 3: their Notre Dame game was close, Oregon not so much.

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Speaker 3: And while I think you're right in talking about the

440
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Speaker 3: encouraging factors of how USC ended their season, this was

441
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Speaker 3: still a pretty rough defense At times you could run

442
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Speaker 3: on this Trojan defense and special teams wasn't great and

443
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Speaker 3: there was just a lack of discipline pretty much throughout

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Speaker 3: the season from this USC team, which does fall on

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Speaker 3: the head coach and practice and what to practice. So

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Speaker 3: I understand the frustration just in general with Helton and

447
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Speaker 3: more so I think with the administration.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, so right.

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Speaker 3: This is a USC team that throws the ball really

450
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Speaker 3: well under Graham Harrell and Keaton Slovas and those receivers.

451
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Speaker 3: Slovis a ton of promise. If I'm sticking with my

452
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Speaker 3: fun edge dudes, Drake Jackson can be stery scary. Good

453
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Speaker 3: excuse me. As a freshman he was pretty fun. But

454
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Speaker 3: here's the thing. Ioways got like a grown up version

455
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Speaker 3: of that in aj Epanessa. He's a problem. Their defense

456
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Speaker 3: is very strong all around. They were great at preventing

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Speaker 3: big plays. I have Iowa by six here. Really, I

458
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Speaker 3: love going with the stronger defenses because if Bowls are

459
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Speaker 3: about caring and defense is about carrying boom, you're married

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Speaker 3: and this is where I sit.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: That's a fair point of view, and no doubt contrasting

463
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Speaker 1: styles in this game, because USC is going to air

464
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Speaker 1: it out against a good pass defense, albeit one that

465
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Speaker 1: didn't play a system like this, but still a really

466
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Speaker 1: good pass defense. They've been good for a long time.

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Speaker 1: It's Iowa. And conversely, I would think that Iowa has

468
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Speaker 1: an opening here to run the ball to control clock

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Speaker 1: against this USC defense. I always got a little bit

470
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Speaker 1: to prove in that department. They haven't been a good

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Speaker 1: rushing offense, a truly no rushing offense in a couple

472
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Speaker 1: of years, but they couldn't run at all until Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: right if they choose to do so and fully commit

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Speaker 1: to the bit here, there's an opportunity against USC. Sure.

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Speaker 1: I am perhaps the most interested in this game of

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Speaker 1: all the ones that we're going to see in Bull season.

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Speaker 1: I just think the contrasting styles and some of the

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Speaker 1: storylines here are very intriguing to me. My gut was USC,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say USC ah like eleven confidence points

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Speaker 1: not not too many here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty low around there as well with the

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Speaker 3: Iowa pick. Also should be noted well, couple things. One

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Speaker 3: pour one out, pour gallons and gallons out for this

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Speaker 3: field which flooded during the Point Setti Bowl. However many

485
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Speaker 3: years ago. I never forget, and now the Point Seti

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Speaker 3: Bowl no longer exists. Also, gift Suite fossil watch, wireless speaker,

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Speaker 3: and I'll say a wireless speaker, a portable charger, and

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Speaker 3: a toiletry bag are making my making the Rubinstein Bowl gift.

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Speaker 1: Sweet. That's that's on the rushboard right now.

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Speaker 3: That's really strong. Also, if you're going to this game,

491
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Speaker 3: which it's a great time because you're in San Diego

492
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Speaker 3: in late December, ho dads for burgers, Cassero for fish tacos,

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Speaker 3: also oscars and a mighty scos nine seas for fish tacos,

494
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Speaker 3: because that's what you should be doing in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl is always a lot of fun. Love. A

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Speaker 1: good Holiday Bowl always always a good time. And let's

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Speaker 1: close out December the twenty seventh, Yeah, with another game

498
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Speaker 1: on ESPN. It's a cheeze at ball. Yeah, play it.

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Speaker 1: We've got air Force at ten and two. We've got

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Speaker 1: Wazoo at six and six. Air Force is a three

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Speaker 1: point favorite here, Daniel, they are. I apologize for leaving

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Speaker 1: this one out of our original document. I mean no

503
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Speaker 1: disrespect to the Air Force Academy or Wazoo. Who you

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Speaker 1: got here?

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Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with what a weird game. Well,

506
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Speaker 3: first of all, really strong year for air Force. They

507
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Speaker 3: finished the season winning seven straight eight of nine. They

508
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Speaker 3: played two good teams in Navy and Boise. They lost

509
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Speaker 3: to both.

510
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Speaker 1: They ran well all year long.

511
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Speaker 3: They were efficient enough, not crazy accurate through the air,

512
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Speaker 3: but they they made plays when it counted. Wazoo had

513
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Speaker 3: another really strong offense and a not strong at all defense,

514
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: and so they are sort of all or nothing type team.

515
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Speaker 3: They lost close, they won close to good teams. I

516
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Speaker 3: just I don't like watching this year's version of the

517
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Speaker 3: Wazoo defense. They were so fun under Alex Grinch. I

518
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: don't love air Force's defense here. That's the problem. I

519
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: think Wazoo is going to be able to get this

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00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 3: done in a weird shootout like a forty four to

521
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Speaker 3: forty two type game. So yeah, I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 3: Wazu here to win out right, I'm gonna give it

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Speaker 3: pretty low confidence points because of the great variable that

524
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Speaker 3: is the air Force offense. So yeah, I think Wazoo

525
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Speaker 3: finished the year strong in what games in Phoenix?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, that's my pick.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go air Force here, and I

529
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Speaker 1: don't feel very confident in that selection. I'm gonna put

530
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Speaker 1: like twelve points or something relatively low on it. The

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Speaker 1: single worst entity in this football game, at least on

532
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Speaker 1: a per play basis, is the Wazoo rushing defense.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's a bad matchup.

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00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: And that's a bad matchup. That's a really bad matchup.

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Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about air Force's defense either, but I

536
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Speaker 1: like their I like their matchup here. It's a strong

537
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Speaker 1: run yea from to control the clock, to control the

538
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Speaker 1: narrative with their with their option offense. So I'm gonna

539
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Speaker 1: take a chance here and go air Force to the

540
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Speaker 1: tune of twelve.

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Speaker 3: All right, disagree?

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Speaker 1: What is our gift situation for this game?

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Speaker 3: insulated bottle branded bills, cap and travel case. Hmmm, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what.

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Speaker 1: I want to know more about that travel case.

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Speaker 3: That's a pretty good roster. Also, if you're going to

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Speaker 3: this game, Pizzeria Bianco, pone Bianco or tacos.

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Speaker 1: Chi wa chias okay. I like that. It's a good

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Speaker 1: gift suite right there, absolutely is. Let's go to December

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Speaker 1: the twenty eighth. It's Camping World bullets on ABC. It

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Speaker 1: is your Notre Dame fighting Irish Dan.

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Speaker 3: That's mine.

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Speaker 1: A four point favored against Iowa State. Notre Dame went

561
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Speaker 1: ten to two. Iowa State went seven and five. I

562
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Speaker 1: think this could be a fun game.

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Speaker 3: I have it circled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this could be a fun game. I

565
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts on this football game, all right,

566
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Speaker 1: list them. Notre Dame was quietly very good in the

567
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: month of November after that Michigan game. They sort of

568
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: got knocked out of it, and you know, they had

569
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Speaker 1: to fight for their lives against Virginia Tech and all that.

570
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Speaker 1: But Ian Book was much much better at stretching the

571
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Speaker 1: field later in the year. That's so key for him

572
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: because he just wasn't good at it. I'm not going

573
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Speaker 1: to pretend that they played a tough schedule in November.

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Speaker 1: I just think that it's important they closed on such

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Speaker 1: a confident note. So that's the first thing here, and Secondly,

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Speaker 1: we mentioned this on the last show, but Chip Long

577
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Speaker 1: is out as offensive coordinator for Notre Dame and Tommy

578
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Speaker 1: Reese is in as the play call at least on

579
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Speaker 1: a temporary basis for this Bowl game. I suppose it

580
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Speaker 1: depends on how well he does as for whether or

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Speaker 1: not he continues in that post. He's never called plays before,

582
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Speaker 1: so his diet Chiplong, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty seven years old. He's widely perceived as a

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Speaker 1: rising star in the coaching world. If Notre Dame looks

585
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Speaker 1: good on offense, I would expect that there's going to

586
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Speaker 1: be some pressure to elevate him and keep him around

587
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: because he has been a good recruiter, and that to

588
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: me means that if you're Tommy Reese, maybe you take

589
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: more chances, maybe you try to maybe try to spice

590
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: things up a little bit, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, ty Do you remember the the Barcelona Olympics, that Dream.

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Speaker 1: Team nineteen ninety two. I'll never forget.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two. Tommy Reese was two months old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for the dream Team. Yeah, thanks for making me

595
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: feel old, by the way. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's where Notre Dame is so Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 3: They won eight of nine to finish the year, obviously

599
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Speaker 3: losing that Michigan game. You know, this is the eight

600
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Speaker 3: of nine started, I guess after the Georgia loss. But

601
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Speaker 3: that those games, and you might be selling them short

602
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Speaker 3: a little bit talking about an ACC coastal champion in

603
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Speaker 3: terms of a win, talking about a USC team that

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Speaker 3: finished the season pretty well. They won that game close.

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Speaker 3: Navy team that was in it for the American late

606
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech also in it for the coast. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm talking Rubs.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm talking mostly in November's stretch where they looked

609
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Speaker 1: i think, especially impressive, not against the best competition. But

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Speaker 1: your point stands. Your point is very valid.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so they were I guess uneven because at

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Speaker 3: times they looked great on the ground, at times not

613
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Speaker 3: so much. And you're right, Ian book improved as the

614
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Speaker 3: opponents didn't Chase Claypool as dangerous a big receiver as

615
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Speaker 3: there probably is at times in the country. Their past

616
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Speaker 3: defense was great and a lot of that was pocket collapsing.

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Speaker 3: What's Khalid Kareem, He's that dude. Notre Dame is that dude? Yeah,

618
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Speaker 3: he is that dude. Here's the good news though, or

619
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Speaker 3: the bad news for Notre Dame. Iowa State can play,

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Speaker 3: Yeah they can't. Iowa State beat Texas late. They finished

621
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Speaker 3: the season winning two of three. They lost last second

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Speaker 3: to Oklahoma. Their defense was good pretty much all year long,

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Speaker 3: especially at preventing big plays. Not that Notre Dame is

624
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 3: a home run hitting team, but Iowa State is a

625
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: good team with a pretty wild card, unpredictable quarterback in

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Speaker 3: Brock Party. I think Notre Dame can get it done

627
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: in too many different ways for Iowa State to win

628
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: this one. I have the Irish by nine points here.

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Speaker 1: Nine points. Yeah, that the X factor for me. This

630
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: game definitely means more for Iowa State. Sure, Like, is

631
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Speaker 1: there any doubt that Matt Campbell is going to have

632
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Speaker 1: these guys fired up. He's already sort of established himself

633
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Speaker 1: as a giant killer, at least as someone who's going

634
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: to scare you. And if you're Iowa State looking across

635
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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame, this is a team that's sort of

636
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: like the Yankees of the Midwest. It'd be a huge

637
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: deal if you could knock off Notre Dame and they

638
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: do have a chance here. You're right, they can play.

639
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Their defense is solid. Offensively, brock Perty always gives them

640
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: a chance. He's always a threat. I think Notre Dame

641
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: is better as well. I think they're about a touchdown better.

642
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: I do think Tommy Reese is going to take some

643
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Speaker 1: chances because twenty seven and he wants the job, and

644
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: why the hell not right, So I'm saying thirty four

645
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: to twenty eight. I've got thirteen confidence points on it.

646
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Speaker 1: But I think this is going to be a hell

647
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Speaker 1: of a lot of fun. I'm excited to watch this game.

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Speaker 3: Think about all the old people in Florida and the

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Speaker 3: Irish going down to Florida for a Bowl game. There's

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Speaker 3: a bit of a home field. S Scoul, you're a scale.

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Speaker 3: A gift suite in this game includes a four hundred

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Speaker 3: dollars Best Buy gift card. I haven't been to a

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Speaker 3: best Buy in a long time. Tie a watch, a

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Speaker 3: Herschel backpack that's a good backpack and a luggage tag,

655
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Speaker 3: or the Herschel backpack has a luggage tag. I don't

656
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Speaker 3: know Orlando food no, so I am told it's just

657
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Speaker 3: a lot of sort of strip malls. So whatever, your

658
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Speaker 3: favorite strip mall restaurants are, and I would be first

659
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Speaker 3: in line for good strip mall restaurants. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I love a good CPK. Sure, that's probably your best

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Speaker 3: bet in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Get some.

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Speaker 3: I'm probably get some orange chicken at PF Chanks. Oh,

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Speaker 3: they'll definitely have Paul Flemings Chanks. They definitely will.

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Speaker 1: The good Year Cotton Bowl. Okay, on December the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighth on ESPN, it is Penn State at ten and two,

667
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Speaker 1: Memphis at twelve and one, Penn State six and a

668
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Speaker 1: half seven point favorite. Dan So a lot going on here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: First off, Memphis lost their coach, Mike Norvel to Florida State.

670
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Speaker 1: I think that may negate any boost they get from

671
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Speaker 1: going to the freaking Cotton Bowl against Penn State, which

672
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: is an amazing accomplishment from Memphis football. Congratulations on a

673
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: wonderful season. I think Memphis is really good. I've been

674
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: saying it all year. I have been a huge fan.

675
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: I think they can score with Penn State. I do

676
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Speaker 1: think that Penn State can use some variation of their

677
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: rushing attack to great effect here, and I do think

678
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: ultimately that is the difference in this football game. Also,

679
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: their defense Penn States is extremely opportunistic and they're gonna

680
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Speaker 1: find a way to force a couple turnovers in this

681
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: football game. I think it's fun. I think there are

682
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Speaker 1: a lot of points. I think it's something like thirty

683
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Speaker 1: eight to thirty one. Penn State like the Knits in

684
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Speaker 1: this one here. I think they've got a lot to

685
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: build for in the coming season in twenty twenty. So

686
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go seventeen confidence points on Penn State.

687
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: I disagree. I like Memphis here outright, I really do.

688
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna score. I don't love what Penn

689
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: State look like against good passing attacks this season this season,

690
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: did you no?

691
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 1: Especially it's a wed that first.

693
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: Half against Minnesota. We had Indiana lighting them up early.

694
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: There are some concerns about some some lapses in the

695
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: Penn State secondary, and that's and Memphis is pretty balanced.

696
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: We saw great runs from what Kenneth gainwell this year.

697
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: De Monte Coxy was very good on the outside. So

698
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: after that Temple lost, Memphis did rip off seven straight wins,

699
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: including the double Cincinnati situation. I still think the offense

700
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: will be sensational. Bryce Huff is fun as hell, on

701
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: this Memphis defense and Penn State wise, it was nice

702
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: that they settled on what Journey Brown when they had

703
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: the backfield by committee early on kJ Hammler, you know,

704
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: was beat up, but had you know, incredible plays for

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Speaker 3: Penn State. I like Penn State upfront. I just think

706
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Speaker 3: Memphis is a different offensive animal than what a lot

707
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Speaker 3: of the Big Ten has to offer. So I actually

708
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Speaker 3: have Memphis by four here, really and welcome to college

709
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Speaker 3: football big time, Ryan Silverfield, new Memphis coach.

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Speaker 1: I could see it, especially because of the whole secondary

711
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: concern with Penn State. Yeah, and you know, I watch

712
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: pretty much every Penn State game and seeing the secondary

713
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: with my own eyes sort of appalling down this track.

714
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: It was not good. You read the beat reports after

715
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: the fact, the game summaries, and I don't think any

716
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: of them have really done it justice. This has been

717
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: a really bad secondary latter part of the year, and

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Speaker 1: it is a huge concern as you go up against

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Speaker 1: a team like a Memphis. So I get it. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go Penn State here. I'm gonna say seventeen confidence points,

721
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Speaker 1: but you know, should be a fun game one way, or.

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Speaker 3: Even that six seven eight point confidence region for this

723
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Speaker 3: one goodyear. Cotton Ball representatives would not I'm seeing again,

724
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Speaker 3: would not disclose the contents of this year's gift package.

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Speaker 3: If you are saying in the greater DFW area, I

726
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Speaker 3: just have Dallas recommendations. Fort Worth has great food options

727
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Speaker 3: as well, but Pecan Lodge for for barbecue is great.

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Speaker 3: You can skip the line, I think if you order

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Speaker 3: something called the Trough, the Trough, the Trough, which is

730
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Speaker 3: a large tables worth of food Urban taco cow noodles

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Speaker 3: that'd be Khao I believe, and Los Torres also Mexican

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Speaker 3: food Taurus t O R R E S.

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Speaker 1: All Right, so you'll notice that we are not previewing

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Speaker 1: the playoffs correct on this show. We've got a dedicated

735
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Speaker 1: playoff preview podcast. Try saying, don't recognize the sovereign. Oh sorry,

736
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Speaker 1: continue five times fast. Those games are both on December

737
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Speaker 1: the twenty eighth, our Sunday show. We'll be talking about

738
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: those two games specifically and maybe recapping some of what

739
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: transpires in the first weekend of Bowl games. So with

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Speaker 1: that being said, we have four other games that we're

741
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Speaker 1: going to skip ahead and discuss. We're going to start

742
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Speaker 1: on December the thirtieth with the Serve Pro First Responders Bowl,

743
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Speaker 1: a game that I believe was canceled due to weather

744
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: last year.

745
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they called it because of lightning, and they just

746
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 3: it was a no contest.

747
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: No contest. That sucks. This one's on ESPN. It is

748
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Speaker 1: Western Kentucky at eight and four. It is Western Michigan

749
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Speaker 1: at seven and five, the so called Western Bowl. We've

750
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: got Western Kentucky three and a half points the favorite. Dan,

751
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: I have no idea here. I have absolutely no idea

752
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: who I'm picking.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, Western Kentucky won three in a row to

754
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: finish off the season, including a win at Arkansas. Tye

755
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: Story Hilltoppers couldn't really run. They passed it a bit.

756
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: They were led by their defense. They allowed some bigger plays,

757
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: but this was a strong defense for Western Kentucky. DiAngelo

758
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: Malone worth watching. Watch some of his highlights today, and

759
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm wanting to watch more of him in the First

760
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: Responders Bowl. Western Michigan finished the season pretty strongly, one

761
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Speaker 3: three of four, including a win over Ohio. I'd said

762
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: it before the season started. I've mentioned him a couple

763
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 3: times during the season. Levonte Bellamy is the best running

764
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Speaker 3: back you've probably never watched really good one cut and

765
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: go guy runs really confidently Western Michigan. The Stang's okay

766
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Speaker 3: against the past, not okay against the run. So I

767
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: think they're a little bit too one note. I'm gonna

768
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Speaker 3: go with I guess the strongest thing in this game.

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Speaker 3: I mean it could be Levonte Bellamy, but I'm gonna

770
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Speaker 3: go with to the Hilltoppers by about five points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, What the hell give me Western Kentucky

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Speaker 1: fourteen confidence points?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say twelve. Gift suite includes a

774
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Speaker 3: Parkland Duffel bag, a football nine line apparel, patriotic athletic

775
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Speaker 3: where okay, okay, And it's also in Dallas and so

776
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 3: same place as I just listed.

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Speaker 1: Before the Franklin American Mortgage Mortgage Music City Bowl, I

778
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Speaker 1: lost a spelling the situation on that word on mortgage

779
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Speaker 1: mortgage in like the eighth grade. I lost one on

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Speaker 1: college in fifth grade.

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Speaker 3: That's probably worse.

782
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Speaker 1: I put a D in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's also worse because then you can

784
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Speaker 3: make jokes about like, well, I guess who's not going

785
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: to call it?

786
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Speaker 1: I know, right, it was very ironic.

787
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Speaker 3: Yeah, rough.

788
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Speaker 1: Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl, also on December the

789
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Speaker 1: thirtieth ESPN. It's Mississippi State six and six. It is

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Speaker 1: Louisville Louisville at seven and five, Mississippi State a four

791
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: point favorite. Dan, let me ask you a very important

792
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: question about this game. Which team do you think wants

793
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: to be there more?

794
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: Do you really want it? Probably Louisville, right, I think

795
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: one of Scott Sadderfield I would in the resurrection, Yeah.

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00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: I would think so. I think we have both genuinely

797
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: been impressed by Louisville this season. Yeah, seven wins after

798
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: the disaster that was twenty eighteen. I think they want

799
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Speaker 1: this more. I'm not terribly confident in it, but all Hale, McHale,

800
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Speaker 1: Cunningham and the Cardinals I got five confidence points in

801
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: Louisville going out right here.

802
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: So they won't have their starting left tackle. We mentioned

803
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: that Mackai Becton is not going to play in the

804
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: bowl game to prepare for the NFL Draft. And the

805
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: good news is Louisville did win two of three to

806
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: finish the season. They did beat Virginia Coastal champ. They

807
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: beat Wake in that crazy shootout maybe the most entertaining

808
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: or wildest ACC game of the season. Michael Cunningham is

809
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: full on really good. This is an explosive passing offense.

810
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: Receivers developed and built a rapport with McHale.

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Speaker 1: They ran the ball.

812
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: Pretty well, as you saw at least in that first

813
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: half against Notre Dame to start the season. Their defense

814
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: is legitimately rough all around, which is I think it'll

815
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 3: make for an entertaining game because Mississippi State they actually

816
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: finished the season pretty strong. We saw the weird egg

817
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: Bowl win they beat down Kentucky, but that was pre

818
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Speaker 3: linn Bowden. Kylon Hill appears to be playing, which is

819
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: a pretty strong feather in Mississippi State's hat. Only an

820
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: okay passing team, only okay against the run, and pretty

821
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Speaker 3: bad against good throwers. So I'm going to take Louisville

822
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: here as well, by I don't know, seven or eight points.

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Speaker 1: We agree.

824
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Speaker 2: We agree.

825
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: Also, you're going to Nashville if you're going to this game,

826
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Speaker 3: which is a really fun city. The gift suite includes

827
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Speaker 3: a fossil watch. That's all I have down here. I

828
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Speaker 3: would personally recommend like thirty seven different restaurants in Nashville,

829
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Speaker 3: but the Burger at Husk which I think they only

830
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: serve at lunch than their fried chicken at lunch is

831
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Speaker 3: also excellent, Princes, if you really want to go og

832
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Speaker 3: with the hot chicken. City House for pizza and beer

833
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: was also very very good in the Germantown neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: There have been in Nashville things. It's a good time.

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Speaker 1: You should go. All right, two more games here, let's

836
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Speaker 1: go to the Red Box Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Dan, let's I can tell you all about this game

838
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: because I skipped the second half last year to go

839
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Speaker 3: eat Chinese food.

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Speaker 1: Ah man, it's on Fox. It's Cal at seven and five.

841
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: It's Illinois at six and six. Not the most appealing matchup.

842
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Gotta be honest, disagree. Cal is a seven point favorite.

843
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: I love that Illinois completed the drive for six, of course,

844
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: and I think they may want this game more. I

845
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: am not at all sold that they're any good, and

846
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Speaker 1: not to say that if you're playing in the Red

847
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: Box Bowl you're a premier entity in college football, all right,

848
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: But I think Cal's defense, I think even Cal's offense

849
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: after Chase Garbage came back, Yeah, has a lot more

850
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: to offer in this football game. Illinois will play with heart,

851
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: no doubt, Lovie Smith's beard will remain a national treasure.

852
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, as always, But I'm gonna go Cal here

853
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: to the tune of nine confidence points. Okay, nine confidence points.

854
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

855
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: A strong finish of the year for Cal. Other than

856
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: getting killed by SC I think they won three other

857
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: games to finish things out. They did have a tough

858
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: time on offense without Chase Garber's but it was night

859
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: and day when he was there. He was very promising.

860
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: He succeeded in a still not great Cal offense. They

861
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: lose their offensive coordinator Bobald when he takes the job

862
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo San Luis Obispo. The

863
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: d was good all around. This was a good defense.

864
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: I know Ash and Davis is not playing in this game.

865
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: I believe starting safety still an incredible linebacking corps. Mister incredible.

866
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 3: Evan Weaver is just all over the place and continues

867
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Speaker 3: to be. And it was a ridiculous year for Illinois.

868
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: Just couldn't really run, couldn't really pass, but just made

869
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: it work chicken wire and duct tape and it all

870
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: happened for them, closing out what Wisconsin Michigan State in

871
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: a comeback and let's continue the edge trend.

872
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: The transfer from usc alujolle.

873
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: Betiku, wow, Betiku. I hope I nailed. That is full

874
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: on dangerous and worth watching. I have Cal though by

875
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: probably a couple touchdowns.

876
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

877
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: I like Cal a lot.

878
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: Here they were beat up near the end of the year.

879
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: They lost to Northwestern.

880
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just not putting a lot of confidence points

881
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: on it, but I do like Al in this matchup.

882
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: What is our gift situation here?

883
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: The Red Box Bowl has a gift suite that includes

884
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: a Nintendo switch light. Is that a handheld only switch?

885
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: I believe so that's a good gift. That's a very

886
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: good gift. A Nixon Watch, a turtle Bee, each set

887
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 3: of gaming headphones, a Herschel backpack. Herschel backpack. That's quality.

888
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: I need to look this up. How do you spell

889
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 3: that h E R S C h E l Okay backpacks.

890
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: Let's see how hersh I'll want to send us a Maggio.

891
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: Oh look at that?

892
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: Okay, pretty nice right, and gooder g O O d

893
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: R sunglasses. It's a pretty nice haul. If you're going

894
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: to the Red Box Bowl, and if you're going to

895
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: I assume San Francisco if you're going to be staying

896
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: somewhere near the game. I also have a San Jose recommendation,

897
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 3: but del Popolo for pizza, no palito for sit down

898
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: Mexican food. Latak Area is generally closed around the holidays,

899
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: and that's my favorite burrito maybe in America. But if

900
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 3: it's not, just look it up La Tak Area. Also

901
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: get a sandwich from Deli board always good. But I

902
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 3: would take recommendation.

903
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: I would take one of these backpacks if Hersch'll send

904
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: us one. Oh ah, I would take lot above that.

905
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: This could double as a work backpack.

906
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, it could. Okay, And if you're going to

907
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: say Jose Area Mexico Bakery for a great torta.

908
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: Will Dylan Mitchell, last year's MVP, be on hand to

909
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: give out the official Red Box Bowl Championship jacket.

910
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: Singing the national anthem.

911
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: Yes, okay. And finally, on December the thirtieth, let's close

912
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: it out with the Capitol one Orange Bowl. Dan Let's

913
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: Florida ten and two Virginia nine and four. The Gators

914
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: are a fourteen point favorite. Daniel, this is a game

915
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: where I suspect you're gonna pick Virginia.

916
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: No, I think I'm gonna take Florida really, I mean,

917
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: even without CJ. Henderson. I love what Florida is able

918
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: to do up front.

919
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: When we now hold on. When we talked about this game,

920
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: when the matchups were first revealed, I know you seem

921
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: to hint at the fact that Virginia might want it more.

922
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: If they do want it more, they definitely want it more,

923
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: and you'd be inclined to go with the who's here.

924
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: I think it's worth noting that that's a factor. But

925
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: this is also a game in Florida with the Gators

926
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: having a chance to make a statement going into twenty

927
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 3: twenty in a big spot. What's on the thirtieth that's

928
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 3: when they played the game. It's not a new year

929
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: to day game. But Florida finished the season strong. They

930
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 3: lose to Georgian LSU, right, that's okay. Those are teams

931
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: in it for the playoff late. They didn't run the

932
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: ball all that well. We had the long what Michael

933
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: p Ryan run against Auburn, which broke that game out,

934
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: but otherwise not a great running team. It was sort

935
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: of short, intermediate passing game. But this was largely a

936
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: very very good defense, especially up front. And for a

937
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: kind of one note. Virginia offense a good note, mind you,

938
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: in Bryce Perkins.

939
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: That's tough.

940
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: That's a tough thing to overcome, as well as Virginia

941
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 3: finished the season out. They want to think five of six.

942
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: I just I think there's too much speed. I think

943
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: there's too much talent for Florida. Fourteen points feels like

944
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: a lot, but especially with how Florida showed out against

945
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 3: it was Michigan last year, right in the Peach Bowl.

946
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah right, you know they're I think they're going to

947
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: be ready. I think they're going to find the care

948
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: by the time this, uh, this kickoff happens.

949
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: Fourteen points is a big spread. It's large, a big

950
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: spread in a bowl game. I like point. I said,

951
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: Virginia give up to Clemson a lot. Yeah, a lot

952
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: of points. Fifty two was.

953
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: It sounds right, fifty two? Sixty two? I think it

954
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: was sixty two.

955
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. It felt like one hundred and two. Yeah,

956
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: So I like Florida a lot. Here. I got fifteen

957
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: confidence points on him. Again, you know my drill later

958
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: on in bowl season, once we start getting to these

959
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: later games, I'm just not putting as many points on

960
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: it because that's the strategy. But fifteen confidence points, I

961
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: think Florida wins out right Capitol.

962
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, the loss of what Bryce Hall and some key

963
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: secondary cogs, it's just we're not saying of Virginia defense

964
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: at full strength. I think Florida's depth is just going

965
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: to win out here. Do I have the Yes?

966
00:50:59,600 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: I have.

967
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: Gift suite includes a Tornau watch, our old friends at Torneau,

968
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: and a full sized split helmet. So I guess it's

969
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: a half Florida, half Virginia helmet.

970
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh is that the Laura Quinn helmet? Essentially it's something

971
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: like that.

972
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a house divided helmet for anybody who is

973
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: half Virginia half Florida. And if you're in the greater

974
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: Miami area and you are hungry taquisa for tacos, I

975
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: think it's pook, Yeah, Phuc, It's either fuk or pook.

976
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah for via cajun Zach the baker for some great

977
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: baked goods. I went there. I was in Miami last year.

978
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: Really strong bakery Lukli, which is a Brooklyn pizzeria that's

979
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: the best pizza in Brooklyn. They have an outpost in

980
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: Miami and the line is probably shorter, go to there

981
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: and Sangwich Sangwich Dey Miami for Cuban Sandwich for Cuban Sandoz.

982
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: All right, well, here is the way this is going

983
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: to break down. Yeah, Over the next week and a

984
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: half or so, on Sunday, we will have our previews

985
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: of the Chick fil A Peach Bowl, which is semifinal

986
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: number one between LSU and Oklahoma, as well as the

987
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: PlayStation Fiesta Bowl, which is semifinal number two Clemson against

988
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Later on in the week on Wednesday, as

989
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: we now snap into our twice a week form, the

990
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: bull Barge will continue on with a bunch of other games.

991
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: We've got the Belk Bowl, the Tony the Tiger, Sun Bowl,

992
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: oh Liberty Bowl, Arizona Bowl, Alamo Outback, Citrus Rose Bowl,

993
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: and the All State Sugar Bowl. We do have one

994
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: other bowl preview show that will drop after that, so

995
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: the following weekend where we're going to preview five or

996
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: six of the remaining games, and then eventually we'll get

997
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: into our National Championship preview shows we get a little

998
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: bit closer to the action, but a lot of bowl

999
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: previews coming your way. As always, We're going to do

1000
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: our best to try and keep you aprize of what's

1001
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: going on in the coaching world. Coordinators moving around, who

1002
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: knows if head coaches will move around at some point,

1003
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: Certainly that has happened before. So whatever goes down, early

1004
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: draft announcements, guys sitting out their bowl games, any other

1005
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: news that might pop up between now and then, going

1006
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: to do our best here to try and keep you

1007
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: all up to speed.

1008
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got recruiting, we got national signing there we're

1009
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: going to have to run down as well.

1010
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So there you have it. We do appreciate everyone

1011
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,560
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Speaker 1: and get all of our content. Dan, That's all I got.

1021
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: You see the picture I sent you about like eight

1022
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: thirty this morning. The picture you sent me at eight

1023
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: thirty it was dessert packaging. Oh yeah, how'd it look

1024
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: Stroop waffle ice cream? It looks pretty damn good. It

1025
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: looks pretty good.

1026
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1027
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: Did you take that picture for me or did you

1028
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: find it online?

1029
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: No?

1030
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: I took that for you. Wow.

1031
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: And it was in the grocery store this morning and

1032
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 3: they had that that item.

1033
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: This is Trader Joe's brand Mini Stroop Wobble wo what

1034
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: I said, waffle waffle Waffle.

1035
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: It's the ice cream sandwiches. It looks it looks good,

1036
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: it looks fine.

1037
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: I want to get you in on the Stroop Waffle thing.

1038
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: They're pretty good. Look us up Stroop Waffle. That's not

1039
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: a brand. Look us up Joe for that guy over there,

1040
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for my self. Tie Hilding

1041
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Grant will be back in a few short days. Enjoy

1042
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: the rest of your week, enjoy your weekend, and in

1043
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: the meantime, stay solid.

1044
00:54:59,760 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: He