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Speaker 1: all of this together for you because there is something

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Speaker 1: Isn't that brave? Of them to do. They've at different

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Speaker 1: They made Eric Trump stop his charity raising money for St. Jude's.

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Speaker 1: this is what what police states do in the past.

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Speaker 1: That has been considered scandalous for senior US officials to

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Speaker 1: even request the identities of US officials that were incidentally

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Speaker 1: monitored by the government, which was the case of Flynn.

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Speaker 1: Here and Flynden remembered all the fact that the intercepts

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Speaker 1: of Flynn's conversations with his Russian counterpart appeared to have

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Speaker 1: been widely distributed inside the government as a red flag.

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Speaker 1: This is the head of the House Intelligence Committee, Nunia said,

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Speaker 1: he was by the way, don't these guys have better

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Speaker 1: things to do, like monitor ISIS and monitor Russia and

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Speaker 1: Iran and China and all of our enemies abroad. This

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Speaker 1: is what the intelligence community is doing. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I have great respect for the intelligence community. But there

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Speaker 1: are certainly people that are acting improperly here and certain people,

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Speaker 1: as I believe, I think that Kenneth Timmerman is right

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Speaker 1: that you know this this shadow warriors that have all

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Speaker 1: this information, all this intelligence, all this power, that don't

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Speaker 1: like the president and are leaking it repeatedly, as even

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Speaker 1: Time magazine Sam Frazel and his column gives a list

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Speaker 1: of everything that they've done up to this point, and

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Speaker 1: I mentioned it in the last half hour. Look, you

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Speaker 1: gotta understand here, the all radical left is hell bent

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Speaker 1: on preventing Trump to be successful. I want to know

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Speaker 1: what liberals fear the most. Trump is going to succeed.

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Speaker 1: You want to know what the bureaucracy fears the most

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Speaker 1: Trump's success. It's raining the swamp. And that's the reason.

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Speaker 1: Gorka is under fire, Kelly Ann is under fire, Bannon

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Speaker 1: is under fire, Miller, Miller is under fire, rans is

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Speaker 1: under fire. You know, the president's children, including his ten

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Speaker 1: year old son, or under fire for crying out loud

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Speaker 1: one by one right out of a lynskey one oh one.

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Speaker 1: What they're doing is their systematically going down a line

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Speaker 1: of people close to the president and trying to take

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Speaker 1: them out and discredit the president. That's what's happening. Pick

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Speaker 1: the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. That's a lynskey.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. They smell blood in the water.

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Speaker 1: That's why Democrats and the alt radical left media of

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Speaker 1: bringing up impeachment. What did he know and when did

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Speaker 1: he know it? What did he know? The White House

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Speaker 1: counsel told them there was no law breaking here, and

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Speaker 1: then they were fully investigating, and then it became an

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Speaker 1: issue of what he told the Vice president. It really

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Speaker 1: is that simple. The larger more important question is who

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Speaker 1: in the intelligence community, which I'm sure has political affinity

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Speaker 1: for Obama and and Serve the former president, is involved

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Speaker 1: in all of this. That to me is the exact

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Speaker 1: same say, the bigger question that needs to be investigated

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Speaker 1: in Congress, better get off their ass and get their

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Speaker 1: heads out of their ass, and they better start investigating

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Speaker 1: because these guys right now are winning and that blood

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Speaker 1: in the water is gonna even bring more of this,

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Speaker 1: not less of this. Top House Democrats ripped outgoing National

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Speaker 1: Security Advisor Flynn from a tweet sent from a fake

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Speaker 1: account purported to be Flynn's and it becomes fake news.

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Speaker 1: The account of General Mike Flynn tweeted earlier Tuesday that

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Speaker 1: is being made into a scapegopers contact with the Russian government.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Flynn's account. This is how bad and how

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Speaker 1: ill prepared the media is. They've had a political earthquake

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Speaker 1: and political movement unlike anything they've seen in their lifetime,

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Speaker 1: and they can't handle it. All they want to do

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Speaker 1: is fixate on on following the rabbit like a greyhound

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Speaker 1: in a track, and they mel blood in the water,

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Speaker 1: teaching the president. That's their goal. They've even said it,

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Speaker 1: Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi. They're trying to make anything into

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Speaker 1: the next water Gate. They've ignored Hillary Clinton. They defended

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Speaker 1: a private email server, they defended the corruption pay to

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Speaker 1: play at the Clinton Foundation, they defended her endless lies.

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Speaker 1: They were silent when Obama was caught on a Hawk

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Speaker 1: Mike talking to Dmitri Medvedev saying, oh uh, Dmitri, Dmitri, listen,

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Speaker 1: tell Vladimir that, you know, I'll have a lot more flexibility.

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Speaker 1: I'll have flexibility of tell tell them as soon as

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Speaker 1: I'm elected, but I'll tell me about the people have

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Speaker 1: more flexible dispersed the listener, unbelievable. There's no secret that

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Speaker 1: Flynn had a rocky relationship with the national security establishment

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Speaker 1: when in the Obama administration. He said that was previously

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Speaker 1: forced out of that government for speaking up about the

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Speaker 1: rise of radical Islam. They already had a a a prejudice,

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Speaker 1: if you will, a prejudgment towards him, and a hate

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Speaker 1: towards him. And then the endless leaks about the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: You know, Devin Noon is saying, what this is? Ever

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Speaker 1: since Trump ran for president, there has been a witch hunt,

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Speaker 1: and they don't want Ivanka. They just loved collateral damage.

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Speaker 1: They're not looking for Jared, they're not looking for Ryans,

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Speaker 1: they're not looking for Flynn, they're not looking for Bannon,

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Speaker 1: they're not looking for Miller. Their goal is to get

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Speaker 1: the president and prevent him from training the swamp and

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Speaker 1: their lives and their very existence as establishment media, establishment lobbyists,

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Speaker 1: establishment Democrats, and weak need, weak spine, pathetically uh, pathetic

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Speaker 1: Republicans that can't keep promises. They don't want the pressure

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Speaker 1: of having to actually do some work, and they want

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Speaker 1: him to go to And the hell would the people

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Speaker 1: on food stamps and poverty and that are out of

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Speaker 1: the labor force. The hell with our national security going

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Speaker 1: down the tops. It doesn't matter, John Hannity, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: that you don't think about it this way. Is there

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Speaker 1: any one cabinet official that the Democrats would support. No?

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone family member of Donald Trump that's not

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Speaker 1: been attacked. No? Is there any one court appointment he's

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Speaker 1: gonna make that's not going to be attacked. No? Is

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Speaker 1: there any policy that's not going to be attacked. I

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Speaker 1: said this all to you is going to happen. If

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Speaker 1: it's extreme vetting, they'll oppose it. If it's Neil Gorsuch

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Speaker 1: or an originalists of any kind on the court, they'll

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Speaker 1: they'll oppose it. Repealing replacing, they will oppose it. Energy independence,

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Speaker 1: they will oppose it. Building the wall, they will oppose it.

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Speaker 1: Tax cuts will be characterized even though they're for the

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Speaker 1: middle class, for the rich, and for businesses. Wealthy businesses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the people that hire people in Detroit and Cleveland and Milwaukee. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all gonna happen. There's nothing Trump won't do that

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Speaker 1: won't cause this insane reaction will continue. This. We're going

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Speaker 1: to do whatever is necessary to keep our country safe.

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Speaker 1: We will not allow people into our country who are

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Speaker 1: looking to do harm to a people. This is keeping

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Speaker 1: American people safe, and they has a market. This is

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Speaker 1: about a band on Muslims that is unconstitutional and amoral.

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Speaker 1: This executive order is so bad and so poisoned, and

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Speaker 1: its genesis is so bad and terrible that he ought

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Speaker 1: to just throw it in the trash can. Freedom is

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Speaker 1: back in style. Welcome to the Revolution. The new seawan

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Speaker 1: Nnity Show more be I'm the Scenes, information on breaking news,

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Speaker 1: and more bold inspired solutions for America. We've been reviewing

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Speaker 1: and evaluating this issue with respect to General Flynn on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis for a few weeks, trying to ascertain

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Speaker 1: the truth. We got to a point not based on

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Speaker 1: a legal issue, were based on a tru stissue, with

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Speaker 1: a level of trust between the President and General Flynn

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Speaker 1: had eroded to the point where he felt he had

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Speaker 1: to make a change. The President was very concerned that

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Speaker 1: General Flynn had misled the Vice President and others. He

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Speaker 1: was also very concerned, in light of sensitive subjects dealt

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Speaker 1: with by that position of national security advisors, like China,

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Speaker 1: North Korea, and the Middle East, that the President must

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Speaker 1: have complete and unwavering trust for the person in that position.

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Speaker 1: The evolving an eroding level of trust as a result

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Speaker 1: of this situation in a series of other questionable instances,

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Speaker 1: is what led the President to ask for General Flynn's resignation.

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Speaker 1: Immediately after the Department of Justice notified the White House

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Speaker 1: Council of the situation, The White House Counsel briefed the

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Speaker 1: President and a small group of the senior advisors. The

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Speaker 1: White House Council reviewed and determined that there is not

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Speaker 1: an illegal issue, but rather a trust issue. All right.

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Speaker 1: That was Shawn Spicer at the press conference that I well,

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Speaker 1: he's the White House or Press secretary. Eight nine for one,

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Speaker 1: Shawn told free telephone number. You want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program. We continue our top story today

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Speaker 1: and that is General Flynn is now stepping down from

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Speaker 1: his position. And of course this has a lot to

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Speaker 1: do with I think a political assassination, as Eli Lake

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Speaker 1: writes in his piece earlier today, and he'll be joining

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Speaker 1: us later in the program. But I think what we're

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Speaker 1: watching is a lot bigger, and I think you're watching systematically,

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Speaker 1: one by one in you know, right out of the

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Speaker 1: o Lynskey handbook, isolating targeting, you know, one person around

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Speaker 1: the president at a time. The media has ignored the

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Speaker 1: success of Trump, the political earthquake that has taken place

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Speaker 1: under their feet. And you've got the giant swamp now,

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Speaker 1: which is the establishment in d C. You've got the

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Speaker 1: media establishment, the Democratic establishment, you've got the lobbyist establishment,

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Speaker 1: and the Republican establishment not liking all the changes that

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Speaker 1: are coming their way and and changing the way they

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Speaker 1: do things there. But think about it that he've even

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Speaker 1: gone after Baron Trump, who's ten years old. In the media,

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Speaker 1: they've stopped Eric Trump for raising money for St. Jude's Hospital.

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Speaker 1: They've gone after and said everything about Melania Trump. Uh,

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Speaker 1: They've gone after Steve Bannon, They've gone after Rents, They've

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Speaker 1: gone after you know, this week, it's been Stephen the Miller.

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Speaker 1: Prior to that, it was Kelly in And what they're

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Speaker 1: really after is the president himself. And this is a

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Speaker 1: seek and destroy mission. And when you look at the

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Speaker 1: utter hypocrisy of if national security issues such as this

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Speaker 1: matter as much as the media is claiming, then they

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Speaker 1: certainly would have paid a lot more attention. There would

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Speaker 1: have been a lot more hyper ventilating in their reporting

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Speaker 1: as it relates to Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, the

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Speaker 1: money that foreign countries paid them, the quid pro quo,

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Speaker 1: the email server scandal. We have an email she's purposely

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Speaker 1: trying to by pass oversight by Congress, putting in an

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Speaker 1: email server inside of a mom and pop shop closet

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Speaker 1: bathroom and lying about it repeatedly. Here with some perspective,

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Speaker 1: a guy who's been around the block just a time

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Speaker 1: or two is Patrick J. Buchanan. How are you, sir?

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Speaker 1: John Fine shown. I think it's too bad that the

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Speaker 1: officer who has served his country as well as General

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Speaker 1: Flynn did, and and when you, whatever your views about

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Speaker 1: General Flynn's particular views on foreign policy, it's sad to

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Speaker 1: see someone, after three weeks, when he's reached the pinnacle

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Speaker 1: of his career, go out like this. But there's I

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Speaker 1: tell you you were right in your introduction. Uh, they're

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Speaker 1: going to go directly for the President on this one.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you where they're going to go at

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Speaker 1: him on. The question is going to be that, did

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Speaker 1: Mr President, did you authorize General Flynn to talk to

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Speaker 1: the Russian ambassador about the sanctions? Did he tell you

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Speaker 1: about his conversation and what he told the ambassador about

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Speaker 1: sanctions and the possibility you would take a different approach?

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Speaker 1: And were you aware that when General Flynn spoke publicly

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Speaker 1: that and told the Vice President that he had not

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Speaker 1: mentioned anything like that, were you aware that the general

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Speaker 1: was not telling the truth at the time of the

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Speaker 1: full truth? Well, all those questions were answered by Sean

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Speaker 1: Spicer today at the White House briefing. Every one of

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Speaker 1: those questions. No, he said he did not know. He

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Speaker 1: didn't know, And again it came down to an issue

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Speaker 1: of trust. The issue that they're raising here is that

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Speaker 1: he didn't tell the Vice president everything, and he apologized

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Speaker 1: publicly to the president, and vice President said they accepted

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Speaker 1: his apology on that, And according to the transcripts that

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Speaker 1: were released as as it relates to the conversations, the

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Speaker 1: conversation show that, in fact, it was the Russians that

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Speaker 1: brought it up to him. So now the question is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: why didn't he say that. I don't know the answer

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Speaker 1: to it, But I think the broader question here is,

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Speaker 1: you know they're out for blood. But my question is

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Speaker 1: still on General Friend. It's the suggestion I didn't hear

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Speaker 1: a spicer on for the way you've described it. I

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Speaker 1: heard the later part of it. The question is where

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Speaker 1: General Flynn freelancing on his own and giving some kind

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Speaker 1: of assurance to the Russians about sanctions or how the

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Speaker 1: president would react or what the President elect excuse me,

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Speaker 1: would like the Russians to do. And because that's a

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Speaker 1: real assertion of authority, that would be that frankly, a

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Speaker 1: you know, a national security advisor should never take without

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Speaker 1: this precise authorization or direction of the president. Well, they

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Speaker 1: could have talked about it more broadly in meetings, Pat,

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Speaker 1: I mean think about it. I would have I would

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Speaker 1: assume that the President didn't like or had probably had

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Speaker 1: a disagreement that he verbalized many times in many meetings

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Speaker 1: about his position about what's going to happen. I think, Sean,

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Speaker 1: you take a McCain and those other folks, some of

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Speaker 1: the folks that are really out have no enthusiasm for

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Speaker 1: the president and who smells something here? And I think

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Speaker 1: this is where they're going to go at him and

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Speaker 1: I But don't you don't you think it's more goal

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Speaker 1: is really there to get the president? Certainly the media

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Speaker 1: and uh And there was a good piece in the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal today in the editor what are these

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Speaker 1: guys doing u uh, you know, over hearing listening and

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Speaker 1: recording conversations of the National Security Advisor, etcetera. They claim

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Speaker 1: they picked it up on the on the Russian ambassador alone. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a great question. But they

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Speaker 1: would listen. Knowing the president as well as I do,

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Speaker 1: and having talked to him in the interim between that

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Speaker 1: time when he was elected and he was putting his

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Speaker 1: government together, I know he talked at length about all

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Speaker 1: of the things that he would want to do. Now,

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Speaker 1: he didn't talk to me specifically about this, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: generally just reiterating that he wants to fulfill his promises.

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Speaker 1: So let me say so, so hang on made my point.

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Speaker 1: I would assume pat that General Flynn hurt his opinions

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Speaker 1: about the issue of Russia and Obama and whether or

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Speaker 1: not he agreed or disagreed with them. I mean, let

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Speaker 1: me say this. I think that if the President elect

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Speaker 1: older view and even told General Flynn looked, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you talk to the ambassador, um, you know, tell

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Speaker 1: the ambassador not to overreact to this stuff, I have

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Speaker 1: no problem with him doing that. Quite frankly neither. Why

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Speaker 1: you know, what they're saying is that this is a

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Speaker 1: violation of the Logan Act, which bans unauthorized US citizens

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Speaker 1: from communicating with foreign government independitentiary for life. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: because the countries all over the world negotiating deals and

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Speaker 1: and and twenty minutes, you know, and twenty days later,

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Speaker 1: he's about to be the National Security Advisor. But no,

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Speaker 1: he can only do it the minute he's he's he's um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess sworn in. I mean, to me,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is silly in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: But let me tell you a story. And when I

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Speaker 1: when Nixon was elected, I had contacts with the Russians

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure the guy with kg D and it

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Speaker 1: was in December, I believe, and he called me up

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Speaker 1: and said he would like to see me, and I

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Speaker 1: gave you know, went to see the guy and wrote

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Speaker 1: up a report on exactly what he asked so you

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Speaker 1: could find out his questions were. But you informed your guys.

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Speaker 1: I've gotn't informed the government, but I did inform. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was Dr Kissinger or his shop at the time.

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Speaker 1: So I don't see any problem here with that or

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Speaker 1: even with what Trump did. And and my problem here

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Speaker 1: is that did it frankly, do you think that that

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Speaker 1: the general fell on his sword here? But what's the

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Speaker 1: reason for falling on his sword that? In other words,

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Speaker 1: that the print that the president told him to directed

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Speaker 1: to talk to them baby, and he's trying to protect

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Speaker 1: that knowledge. Maybe that you say, suggesting that the president

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Speaker 1: did it, or you suggesting that the president told him

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Speaker 1: to do it, I mean the president elect looking and

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Speaker 1: it would I would have no problem with it if

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Speaker 1: he had done this, which is to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're talking to the ambassador, I don't tell him

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Speaker 1: for heaven sakes you guys, you're not overreacted. These sanctions.

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Speaker 1: Have no problem with him making that state myself. And

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Speaker 1: they talked about the Logan Act or whatever. And if

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Speaker 1: I had less didn't throw out all our diplomats is

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Speaker 1: a good thing. I totally completely agree with you, because

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Speaker 1: it would have precipitated a crisis. And if he was

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Speaker 1: trying to calm the waters and say there's a new

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Speaker 1: chief coming into town, then chief executive coming into town,

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Speaker 1: that I don't see a problem. Uh, you know, But

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Speaker 1: I do think there's a broader issue here is if

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Speaker 1: you look at you know, Steve Miller went on the

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Speaker 1: Sunday Shows and and how NBC has put him in

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Speaker 1: dark black and white demonization and what they did to

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Speaker 1: Bannon and the cover of Time magazine. I thought he

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Speaker 1: was great this week and agree with you at it

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Speaker 1: reminds me of you, Patton, with a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: I know. But the point is, I think what's happening

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Speaker 1: here is broader. They've gone They've avoided the political earthquake

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Speaker 1: and the success that Donald Trump has had, and all

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Speaker 1: they're doing is one by one trying to demonize and

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Speaker 1: pick off all the guys around him, getting as much

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Speaker 1: collateral damage to discredit him as possible. But with their

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Speaker 1: ultimate goal is you know, to use Eli Lake's column today,

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Speaker 1: he called it the plitical assassination of Michael Flynn. But

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Speaker 1: really it's about Trump. Really, I think you're exactly right. First,

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Speaker 1: I think they want to break Trump's agenda, and the

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Speaker 1: things he campaigned on and what he promised he would

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Speaker 1: do are going to be very difficult in this city,

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Speaker 1: more difficult than even I thought they were going to be.

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Speaker 1: And they're after him on those. And secondarily, they want

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Speaker 1: to get rid of him personally. And there's folks any

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Speaker 1: way to embarrass or damage or drive him down in

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Speaker 1: the polls so they can't realize the agenda he ran on.

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Speaker 1: I could not agree with you more on that. Even

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Speaker 1: there are bigger problems that got hopes hopes invested here

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Speaker 1: and uh and and we are concerned about what we're saying.

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Speaker 1: Aren't you as concerned as I am at who in

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Speaker 1: the in the intelligence community leaked these phone calls? You know?

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Speaker 1: That should be investigated by the guy. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: should be investigated internally by Pompio at the at the

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Speaker 1: CIA and and anybody at the FBI to find out

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Speaker 1: who did this exactly and run that down. That is

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Speaker 1: a horrendous standal, unbelievable because doesn't that suggest to you

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Speaker 1: that that maybe Paul Sperry was right. There are their

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Speaker 1: Obama Hillary supporters within the intelligence community angry at Trump.

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Speaker 1: I want to undermine the astonished if there weren't, I

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Speaker 1: mean many of these agents. Donald Trump got four of

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Speaker 1: the Voteshton d c hang on one second, friendly a

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Speaker 1: city he's entered. Yeah, that's true. All right, stay right there.

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Speaker 1: A couple more minutes with Pat you Cannon one Shawn

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Speaker 1: told free telephone number. Also, we are going to get

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Speaker 1: back to the story with author Eli Lake who wrote

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Speaker 1: that this is the political assassination of of Mike Flynn.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that and more faith I'll

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Speaker 1: find it here there now right as we continue with

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Speaker 1: Patrick J. Buchant in our top story today, and that

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Speaker 1: is the resignation of General Flynn as National Security Advisor

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Speaker 1: or he has been let go, depending on how you

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Speaker 1: want to characterize it. I want to put together two

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Speaker 1: different pieces that have come out. One has to do

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Speaker 1: with Eli Lake's column, which is this is a political

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Speaker 1: assassination and all the leaky from all the intelligence communities.

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Speaker 1: And the second one is from Paul Sperry, where he

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Speaker 1: wrote how Obama's scheming to sabotage Trump's presidency as you

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Speaker 1: look at the big picture in the attack on every

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Speaker 1: single person around the president and the president himself at

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Speaker 1: the while Washington ignores all of these major changes in

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Speaker 1: success that he's had in US a few weeks. Do

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Speaker 1: you see what I see? And that is an orchestrated

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Speaker 1: attempt by all the different you know, straining the swamp components,

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Speaker 1: which is the media component, establishment, the Republican establishment, democratic establishment,

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Speaker 1: lobbying establishment. Do you see them converging together and partnering

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Speaker 1: in this effort to smear, slander, besmirch, and literally a

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Speaker 1: race a Trump presidency if they can. I certainly do

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Speaker 1: you know what I want to within the into the

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Speaker 1: White House with Nixon earlier and I said, we're like

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Speaker 1: the dust on a tabletop. I mean, you've got a

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Speaker 1: few hundred, even when you get fully staffed, a couple

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Speaker 1: of thousand people in there, and you've got a mamithed

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Speaker 1: bureaucracy which is by and large totally hostile built up

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Speaker 1: in the Great Society, a new deal, and this, this

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Speaker 1: bureaucracy built up under Obama is totally hostile to the

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Speaker 1: agenda of Donald J. Trump because he threatens everything they

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Speaker 1: believe in. Now, a real question here, Sean, is the

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Speaker 1: we've expelled all the Russian diplomats. President Obama did throw

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Speaker 1: him out of the country, and A apparently they were

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Speaker 1: upset or surprised that the Russians didn't retaliate, which is

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Speaker 1: I think one of the motives were going after all

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Speaker 1: this material question interesting question was this design to sabotage

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Speaker 1: a Trump foreign policy with regard to Russia before Trump

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Speaker 1: got even into office. What is the motivation for these

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Speaker 1: folks here, as you mentioned, who would being all these

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Speaker 1: people control who are looking over and recording and taping

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Speaker 1: what the general said and leaking it all out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what beneficent purpose do they have in mind in doing this,

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Speaker 1: Even it's not to damage and destroy the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: before it even gets into into power. It's so it's

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Speaker 1: really really chilling. You know, Wiki Leaks actually came out

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Speaker 1: with a theory today, and I don't disagree with them

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Speaker 1: on this either, because I think it's you know, they

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Speaker 1: may have sources that Sean Hannity and Pat Buchannon don't

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Speaker 1: have and they might be reading things that none of

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Speaker 1: us know about, but they're suggesting on a pretty high

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Speaker 1: level that in fact this was the intelligence community. Well

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Speaker 1: you know, they would not would not surprise me in

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Speaker 1: the least. But again we get back to I don't

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Speaker 1: know the problem here. I don't know exactly, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: what exactly General Flynn did wrong if, as you suggest,

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Speaker 1: the ambassadors talking about this on the phone and the

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Speaker 1: like we hope you don't overreact to this, and for

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Speaker 1: heaven's sakes, I don't find any of that that any

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Speaker 1: if it's what if it's what if it's deeper than that.

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Speaker 1: What if he said specifically, well, when we get in,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna fix this. Look, it's gonna be a new

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Speaker 1: day here in a month or so. We please don't overreact,

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Speaker 1: that's a natural response. I don't understand, frankly, why the

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Speaker 1: general if he said that didn't help, you know, pens this.

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Speaker 1: I did say that. I did say that because I

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Speaker 1: don't see anything wrong with it, And frankly, the average

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Speaker 1: individual with it is what Trump has been saying the

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Speaker 1: whole campaign. When I get in, the policy toward Russia

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Speaker 1: is going to change. We're gonna try to work with

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Speaker 1: him if we can. We're gonna bring him into the

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Speaker 1: bottom against PAP. You can and always appreciate your insight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. Eight for one, Shawn

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Speaker 1: told free telephone number. We'll get back to this in

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Speaker 1: our news round up Information Overload hour at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour end. We'll get your calls in. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, you'll meet two people. The battle over

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch is heating up. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk to people who really know them too, people who

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Speaker 1: clerk for the late Supreme Court Justice Anthony and Scalia

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Speaker 1: and much more. Straight ahead, let me you're from the

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice, if I understand correctly, UM, so you're

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Speaker 1: aware of law enforcement? How many arrests have there been

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Speaker 1: to foreign nationals for those seven countries since your honor?

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Speaker 1: I don't have that information. I'm from the Civil Division

855
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: if that, If that helps give me off the hook

856
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: any well, let me tell you the answer to that

857
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: is none as best I can tell. So, I mean,

858
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: you know you're you're here arguing on behalf of someone

859
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: that says we have to protect the United States from

860
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: these individuals coming from these countries, and there's no support

861
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. And I think the point is that

862
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: because this is a question of foreign affairs, because this

863
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: is in an area where Congress has delegated authority to

864
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: the President to make these determinations, it's the President that

865
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: gets to make the determinations, and the Court doesn't have

866
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: authority to look behind those determinations. They're essentially like determinations

867
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: that are committed to agency discretion. And we do think

868
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: that despite planets claim that Clindings, the Manzell is directly

869
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: on point um and that if the if the if

870
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: the four corners of the executive Executive Order off of

871
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: facially legitimate and bona fide reason for it, which they

872
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: do here, that that the Court can't look behind that. Well,

873
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: I cancil, I understand that from your from your papers,

874
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 1: and you any very force presented that argument. But I'm

875
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: also asked to look and determine if the executive Order

876
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: is irrationally based. And rationally based to me implies that

877
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: to some extent I have to find it grounded in

878
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: facts as opposed to fiction. The Court finds that for

879
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: purposes of the entry of the temporary restraining order, that

880
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: the state has met its burden of demonstrating that it

881
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: faces immediate and irreparable injury as a result of the

882
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: signing and implementation of the executive order. I find that

883
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: the state has satisfied the test that it is likely

884
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: to succeed on the merits of the claim, which would

885
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: entitle them to relief. I find that the balance of

886
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: equities favor the States, And lastly, I find that a

887
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: temporary restraining order is in the public interest. If I

888
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: were to apply the Nine Circuits alternative test, I would

889
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: find that the states have established a question, a serious question,

890
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: going to the merits, and that the balance of equities

891
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: tips sharply in their favor. Pass such, I find that

892
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: the court should and will grant the temporary restraining order.

893
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: All right. That, of course, was the Seattle Judge Robard

894
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: who made that initial ruling out in Yattle, which then

895
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: led to the Ninth Circuit. And of course I make

896
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: the case that I believe this was an instance of

897
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 1: judge shopping because they went to a liberal court knowing

898
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: it go to the Ninth Circuit on appeal, and the

899
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: decision about what's going to happen with the administration on

900
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: the executive order is still forthcoming. Um. It has been

901
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: one year since the tragic death of I think one

902
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: of the most brilliant jurist justices in the history of

903
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: the country, Anthony and Scalia and Neil Gorsiche. Now, if

904
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: you think this battle over the National Security Advisor General

905
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: Flynn is bad, we'll just wait till Neil Gorsach and

906
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: his hearings begin. We don't use the term borking as

907
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: a verb very often, but we know what they did,

908
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: and I played it before. What they've done. A Judge

909
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Robert Bork another genius when it comes to the law,

910
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: the Constitution, and of course legality and the role of

911
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: government and each particular branch of government. And Neil Gorcich,

912
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: by the way, none of his opinions have been overturned

913
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court. In more than a decade on

914
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: the Federal Appeals Court. Not one of his writ and

915
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: opinions was overturned by the Supreme Court. Not one. He

916
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: has shown the same judicial originalist constitutionalist philosophy of Judge

917
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: Anton Injustice Anton and Scalia and somebody like, for example,

918
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: Justice Clarence Thomas. Now the question is how far will

919
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: the left going trying to demonize him. Anyway, we might

920
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: get a little bit of insight from Matthew Owens and

921
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Michael uh kenneely is with us, both clerking for Supreme

922
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: Court Justice Anthony Scalia. And Uh, first of all, it's

923
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: I know it's a year since you lost this great man,

924
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: and Uh, I thought some prayers go out to him

925
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: and his wife and his family, and uh and both

926
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: of you as well. I'm sure you had a great

927
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: fondness for him. Matthew, Yeah, definitely we did. And thank

928
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: you very much for saying that. I know all of

929
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: Justice Scalia's law Clarks took his death very hard. He

930
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: was not just a mentor to us, but a lion

931
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: of the law and a kind of patriarch of our

932
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: of our movement, a little bit um for for conservatism

933
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: in the law, and it was very a hard year

934
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: without him. Michael, I remember a speech in particularly the

935
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: Justice Scalia gave when he explained what it is to

936
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: be an originalist. You remember that speech, sure, explain it well.

937
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: Originalism is the philosophy that the Constitution means today what

938
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: it meant when it was enacted, and if you want

939
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: to change what it means, you have to pass the

940
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: Constitutional Amendment, which is the mechanism at the Constitution itself

941
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: provides for changing it. Um. You can't go to court

942
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: and ask a judge to change it because they because

943
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: you think that the original meaning of the Constitution is

944
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: no longer a good one. In other words, it's no

945
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: longer valid. And this is where the great divide in

946
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: the country is because there are those of us that

947
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: I believe in originalism myself, and I believe in separation

948
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: of powers and coequal branches of government. But I argue

949
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: that the left in this country, what they can never

950
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: get done at the ballot box by arguing before the

951
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: American people are making a case for elective office, what

952
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: they could not get done legislatively, they try to rely

953
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: on the courts through judicial activism to impose on the

954
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: American people. Is that true? Yeah? I mean, in some ways,

955
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: originalism puts a lot of faith in UM the people

956
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: to uh put forward the laws that they think are

957
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: best for governing them. And that was one of the

958
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: arguments that Justice scale would always give to it. UM.

959
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: You know, if you're in a democracy and the people

960
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: are sovereign um. Going to the courts and asking unelected

961
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: judges to create new laws is completely intention with that

962
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: commitment to democracy. And don't, Matthew, don't we see that

963
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: on a fairly regular basis from the courts. Look at

964
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: the Ninth Circuit. I think it's about eighty percent over

965
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: the years there that they're overturned by the Supreme Court. Well,

966
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: you see a lot of courts that think it's their

967
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: job too to read into the Constitution the policy ideas

968
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: that they like. Uh. And you know, the Supreme Court

969
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: when Justice Sallee was there, didn't didn't always didn't always

970
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: like that. He used to say that, you know, if

971
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: you're opposed to death penalty, you should convince your neighbors

972
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: that you're right and pass a law. You don't need

973
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: to come to court and try to convince a judge

974
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: to pretend that the Constitution has anything to say about that.

975
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: Tell me that that philosophy protects democracy. Explain what what

976
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: judicial activism is to you. Well, for me, I mean,

977
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: I think the term can be can be a little

978
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: hard to define, but it should mean when a judge

979
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: looks to something other than the law to decide a case,

980
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: when he looks to his his own feelings or political

981
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: views or something other than what the people's elected representatives

982
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: have passed into a statute or what the founders ratified

983
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: in the constitution, when you look beyond that to try

984
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: to to try to put social policy into the constitution,

985
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: because it's it's your own political views. That to me

986
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: as activist, I just played Justice Road part out in Seattle,

987
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: and here he made a statement that was factually at accurate.

988
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: He made the statement, well since nine eleven he was

989
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: he was asking the Justice Department, lawyer, has there been

990
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: any instances of any of the seven people? As far

991
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: as I can tell, none? He said, you have committed

992
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: acts of terrorism. In fact, we have now been able

993
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: to identify seventy two separate cases of people from those

994
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: seven countries. What does it mean when a when a

995
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: judge get something wrong on the facts like that, Michael,

996
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm testing you guys in law school,

997
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: by the way, I want to see how it's always

998
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: troubling when when you know judges make mistakes of any kind,

999
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: whether it's legal or factual. I mean, one of the

1000
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: good things about our system is that, uh, you know,

1001
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: that's the kind of UH issue that can get litigated fully.

1002
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: You know, we're at a very early stage in that case.

1003
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: And UM, eventually the challenges are going to have to

1004
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: put on a factual evidence to support their challenge, UM,

1005
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: because the challenges they bear the burden of proof, as

1006
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: I understand it. UM. So you know, I think at

1007
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: the end of this we're at a very early stage

1008
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: of the litigation. I think by the end of it

1009
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: will have all those issues fully aired in court. If

1010
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: you are going to advise, both of you, what are

1011
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: your current actions? Are you in a position away in

1012
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: on your own own judicial philosophy here, both of you,

1013
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: because I want to ask you if you were to

1014
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: advise the Trump administration on the best way to go forward.

1015
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: They have a number of options. One they can go

1016
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: back to the Seattle judge and and argue the case there,

1017
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: or they could try once again at at the Ninth

1018
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals as I understand it, Or they

1019
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: could bring it to the Supreme Court, where then Justice

1020
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: Kennedy would have an opportunity to either make a decision

1021
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: one way or the other or bring it to the

1022
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: entire Supreme Court. If you were to advise or they

1023
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: could rewrite the entire Executive Order and start over. If

1024
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: you were to advise the administration, Matthew, I'll start with you,

1025
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: what would you do? What would you advise them? To

1026
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: be honest with you, Sean, I am not in a

1027
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: in a position where I can where I can comment

1028
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: on that. I think that all of those options are

1029
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: the ones that they will consider. Um. I know that

1030
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: there's been some whispering that they might rewrite the Executive

1031
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: Order and try to clean it up a little bit

1032
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: and start over. Well, we've had Jay Seculo, I'm sure

1033
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: both of you know, from the American Center for Law

1034
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: and Justice on and he actually rewrote his own version

1035
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: and said if he did those things, it would make it,

1036
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, fairly bulletproof if it ever got to the

1037
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: entire Supreme Court. He predicted eight oh, and that's of

1038
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: course without Neil Gors. Michael, Yeah, Well, it's one of those, uh,

1039
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: one of those things where, um, it's a tough decision

1040
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: for the president because you know, he has to sort

1041
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: of wigh getting what he thinks is in the national

1042
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: security interests of the country in place immediately versus um

1043
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: avoiding you know, protracted litigation it's a it's a tough decision.

1044
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure his advisors are weighing your options carefully. Last question,

1045
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: because you both clerked for antonin Scalia, Michael, I'll start

1046
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: with you, tell us some anecdote about this great judicial

1047
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: philosophy mind that I think people would enjoy hearing well.

1048
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's it's evident to a lot

1049
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: of people on the outside just what a uh, you know,

1050
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: brilliant guy he was, and how deeply principled. But one

1051
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: of the things that sometimes gets lost in the popular

1052
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: portray al says him is just how happy he was

1053
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: in life. You know, he's sort of portrayed as a

1054
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: curmudgeon a lot of the time, and he could have,

1055
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, his bad days as much as anyone. But

1056
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: he was just jade viev kind of guy. We had

1057
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: just a week before he died. A tradition in chambers

1058
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: is to have a birthday party whenever one of the

1059
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: chamber staff or clerks is celebrating a birthday, And just

1060
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: the week before he died, we had one of my

1061
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: co clerks was celebrating a birthday and he would like

1062
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: nothing more than leading the whole group in a spirited

1063
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: singing of Happy Birthday, so I'll always remember that as

1064
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: a happy By the way, on the Court, I think

1065
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: it was the funniest justice I ever heard. When you

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Speaker 1: listen to you can't see them, but at times when

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Speaker 1: they release oral arguments, he cracked me up um and

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Speaker 1: with an incredible wit and sense of humor in a

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Speaker 1: biting commentary. If he felt like at Matthew last word,

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Speaker 1: we got about twenty seconds. Sure, I'll echo what Michael says.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was full of life. He was a

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Speaker 1: great tradition at the Court to have a Christmas party

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Speaker 1: for everyone who works there, and everyone who went always

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Speaker 1: knew Justice Glee was gonna sing a duet of usually

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Speaker 1: good King Winces List or something like that. He was

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Speaker 1: the life of the life of the party building. And

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Speaker 1: one last, last last question, do you guys know Neil Gorsuch? Yes?

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Speaker 1: One simple yes and yes or no question. Do both

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Speaker 1: of you believe that he shares the judicial philosophy of

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Speaker 1: antonin Scalia? Matthew, Yeah, yes he does. Michael I agree. Alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys, all right when we come back. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Eli Lake wrote an article the political assassination of National

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Speaker 1: Security Adviser General Michael Flynn, and then we have Paul

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Speaker 1: Sperry he wrote about a shadow government of Obama, and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Poole. All coming up. Our top story, the resignation

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Speaker 1: well firing of General Michael Flynn, will get to that next.

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Speaker 1: The final hour of the Sean Hannity Show is up. Next,

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Speaker 1: hang on for John's conservative solutions. All right, as we

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Speaker 1: continue Sean Hannity Show News Round Up Information overload. At

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Speaker 1: the top of the next hour, Eli Lake writing a

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Speaker 1: pretty provocative column the political assassination of Michael Flynn, Paul

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Speaker 1: Sperry talking about an Obama shadow government, and also Patrick

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Speaker 1: pool All check in as we get to the resignation

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Speaker 1: or slash firing of General Michael Flynn. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to our busy telephones here as we say Hi to

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Speaker 1: Carry is in Texas. Carry, how are you? Glad you called? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Mr Hannity, How are you today? I'm good? What's going on? Well?

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Speaker 1: Happy VALENTI stay to you, your family, yours, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. Happy Valentine's Day to you, and I hope,

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Speaker 1: I hope the guys in your life took care of

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Speaker 1: you absolutely well. Um. I wanted to use your platform

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Speaker 1: today to inform your listeners, UM about a few things

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Speaker 1: that I know that happened in the state of Texas.

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Speaker 1: UM living here my whole life and having seen it firsthand. UM.

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Speaker 1: The things that aren't brought up. And this is regarding

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration, and these are the things that don't really

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Speaker 1: get a lot of attention. And I'm not sure a

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Speaker 1: lot of the nation knows about these things. So I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to bring a few up. I am a

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Speaker 1: I'm a ranch owner. I have a I own a

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Speaker 1: hunting ranch. And how big is your ranch? How many

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Speaker 1: are my my hunting ranch? Mind? You you know the

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Speaker 1: way they survey it is, you know, from point this

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Speaker 1: to point that. But I've got several hills, so I

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Speaker 1: would say it's closer to eighty acres. But it's just

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Speaker 1: a hunting ranch. And that's what I want. I want

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Speaker 1: a little baby ranch like that. Well I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: when you're taking care of it, it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: a baby ranch. I bet I was gonna. I was

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Speaker 1: married to a Texas ranger for fourteen years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I remember one time he got seven hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: out of an eighteen wheel or coming from Alabama out

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Speaker 1: of chi Laredo, or the time he got fifteen hundred

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Speaker 1: pounds of marijuana when we lived in Pearsall or the

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Speaker 1: time that when I was in pre term labor they

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Speaker 1: couldn't get carried hospital. Let me tell you how bad

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Speaker 1: it is. And I don't want to cut you short,

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Speaker 1: but when I was down in Texas on the boarder

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Speaker 1: with Governor Perry, I got a briefing, a security briefing

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Speaker 1: six hundred and forty two thousand crimes committed against Texans

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Speaker 1: in a seven year period, six hundred and forty two times. Alright,

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Speaker 1: finish your last comment. I got a role um our

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Speaker 1: vehicles would be in stolen because when I get over here,

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Speaker 1: nobody's got a picnic basket for him and handing him

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Speaker 1: a set of keys to a car basket. Free free,

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Speaker 1: Free Washington State, New York, the Hampton's, Pennsylvania. People wake up.

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Speaker 1: It's not happening to you there. The reality is what

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Speaker 1: we are scary experiencing in the southern and the southern

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Speaker 1: border states. So thank you for your attention to it.

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to um uh use your platform.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to explain this to her, Hey Ramos

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Speaker 1: last night, and I gotta tell you something. It's unbelievable

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Speaker 1: to me. Now there's a lot of people, are a

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Speaker 1: lot of victims of crime. What about Americans? Why don't

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Speaker 1: we have the right to safety and security? All right?

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Speaker 1: Back to our top story, the resignation slash firing of

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Speaker 1: National Security Advisor Flynn. What do you hear from Eli

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Speaker 1: Lake who says that the political assassination Paul Sperry, he

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Speaker 1: looks at the fact that Obama may be running a

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Speaker 1: shadow government and much more showing up next our final

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Speaker 1: news round up and information overload hours and when I

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Speaker 1: want to press to press these questions. Where the White

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Speaker 1: House decided to do nothing for three weeks, as Flynn

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Speaker 1: said in on meeting, at the meeting, at the meeting,

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Speaker 1: did the president decide the way the counsel decided to wait?

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Speaker 1: Something is wrong here, Madam Leader. Just this morning Flynn tweeted,

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Speaker 1: and this is a quote scapegoat, And the quote escapegoat

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Speaker 1: he basically the Scott subscribed himself as a scapegoat. And

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Speaker 1: so I believe we need to hold a public hearing

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Speaker 1: with Flynn to get to the bottom of this. Our

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Speaker 1: committee held three or four hearings Emergency hearings on Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton in a matter of a week or two. And

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Speaker 1: if there was any emergency at this moment in the

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Speaker 1: history of this country, this is the moment, and so

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Speaker 1: we need to get his security and clearance of documents.

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Speaker 1: I want to see him. I want to see what

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Speaker 1: he put in those documents to find out if he

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Speaker 1: was honest on those forms. And we need to know

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Speaker 1: how much he got paid to have dinner with Puton.

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Speaker 1: But that is only lebrigating the presses. I asked us

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Speaker 1: over and over again. I know they asked for the

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Speaker 1: chief and asked the leader. Doesn't in here? Shouldn't things

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Speaker 1: in here? No, they cannot in here. Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: We are a fight in a right for the soul

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Speaker 1: of our democracy. The question is is whether where whether

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Speaker 1: we will clearly understand that this is our watch. And

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Speaker 1: let's be clear. Chiefs said it quite eloquently, the Republicans

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Speaker 1: need to join us. This is not a democratic issue.

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Speaker 1: This is not a Republican he said, is not an

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Speaker 1: independent issue. This is an American issue for the soul

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Speaker 1: of our democracy. We've been a reviewing and evaluating this

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Speaker 1: issue with respect to General Flynn on a daily basis

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Speaker 1: for a few weeks trying to ascertain the truth. We

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Speaker 1: got to a point not based on a legal issue,

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Speaker 1: but based on a trust issue, with a level of

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Speaker 1: trust between the President and General Flynn had eroded to

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Speaker 1: the point where he felt he had to make a change.

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Speaker 1: The President was very concerned that General Flynn had misled

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Speaker 1: the Vice President and others. He was also very concerned,

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Speaker 1: in light of sensitive subjects dealt with by that position

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Speaker 1: of national security advisors like China, North Korea, and the

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Speaker 1: Middle East, that the President must have complete and unwavering

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Speaker 1: trust for the person in that position. The evolving and

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Speaker 1: eroding level of trust as a result of this situation

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Speaker 1: and a series of other questionable instances, is what led

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Speaker 1: the President to ask for General Flynn's resignation. Immediately after

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice notified the White House Council of

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Speaker 1: the situation, The White House Counsel brief the President and

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Speaker 1: a small group of the senior advisors. The White House

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Speaker 1: Council reviewed and determined that there is not an illegal issue,

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Speaker 1: but rather a trust issue. Understand that all of this

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Speaker 1: information was leaked. The idea that not just in this administration,

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Speaker 1: but the obomb administration, going back to the Bush administration

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Speaker 1: and back that we have an issue were classified information

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Speaker 1: of which this would be is handled in such a

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Speaker 1: way that it is being given out. And I know

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Speaker 1: in some cases it's it's a good story, and I

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Speaker 1: understand that, and that's to some degree your responsibility to

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Speaker 1: write that. But I think there's also a story here

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Speaker 1: with an amount of leaks that are coming out of

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Speaker 1: people that are entrusted with national security secrets and classified

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Speaker 1: information are leaking it out. That's a real concern for

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Speaker 1: this president that when he's talking on the phone with

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Speaker 1: a world leader, that when he's making key decisions that

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Speaker 1: are in an interest in protecting this country, that we

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Speaker 1: have to wonder whether or not people who work for

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Speaker 1: our government, who are entrusted with classified information and decisional

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Speaker 1: based materials are leaking that information out. That I do

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Speaker 1: believe is a big story that should be reported. I

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Speaker 1: also believe that the President is rightly so very very

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Speaker 1: concerned about this because it's not just something that is plaguing,

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Speaker 1: you know, the current situation, but it goes back through

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Speaker 1: the Obama administration, the Bush administration, the Clinton administration. When

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Speaker 1: we have government employees that are entrusted with this and

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Speaker 1: can't and then leak it out that undermines our national security. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: all right, that was Sean Spicer, and prior to that,

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Speaker 1: it was Elijah Cummings. Uh so we're fighting for the

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Speaker 1: soul of our democracy. Really, where was his outrage over

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation and the money is

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Speaker 1: paid by countries while she was Secretary of State garnering

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Speaker 1: influence through the Clinton Foundation, through donations, through speeches, Bill

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Speaker 1: Clinton is making what about that quid pro quoil. I

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Speaker 1: didn't hear the same outrage from the left from Democrats

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Speaker 1: when it came to Hillary Clinton violating the laws it

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Speaker 1: relates to having an email server to bypass congressional oversight

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Speaker 1: in the closet of a mom and pop shop in

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Speaker 1: a bathroom. I didn't hear the same type of outrage.

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Speaker 1: But Sean Spicer raises the big question here, Why are

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Speaker 1: these leaks continually coming from the intelligence community. This is

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Speaker 1: not stuff that is normally ever leaked by anybody. Well,

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Speaker 1: there are two great columns out and I'm putting them

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Speaker 1: both together in my own mind, thinking there might be

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Speaker 1: something to all of this. Eli Lake writes for Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: and He wrote a great column today called the political

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Speaker 1: assassination of Michael Flynn, and just days before, a good friend,

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Speaker 1: Paul Sperry wrote how Obama's scheming to sabotage Trump's presidency

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Speaker 1: and could these two in some ways be related anyway?

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Speaker 1: Welcome both of you to the program. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for having us Eli. Let me let me start with you, Eli,

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Speaker 1: because this is important. What do you mean by a

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Speaker 1: political assassination? And you went into a lot of depth

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Speaker 1: and detail in your piece to describe the intelligence leaking

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Speaker 1: that's going on here and why that might be happening,

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Speaker 1: especially as it relates to these calls that are never

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Speaker 1: leaked historically. Well, it really comes down to the question

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Speaker 1: of what exactly doesn't mean to have discussed sanctions with

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Speaker 1: the Russian ambassador. Um My sources have told me that

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Speaker 1: this is something that the ambassador brought up in a

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Speaker 1: conversation with Mike Flynn, and Flynn simply said, Hey, we're

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Speaker 1: coming in a couple of weeks. We're going to be

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Speaker 1: reviewing a lot of things in Russia policy. Why don't

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Speaker 1: you give us some time. But it wasn't the center,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the main topic of the discussion. And I

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Speaker 1: mean my understanding, and we know this because it's public record,

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Speaker 1: is that Flynn is having several phone calls to date,

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Speaker 1: He's got two phones. He's talking to ambassadors, foreign leaders,

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Speaker 1: other national security advised But isn't this an upcoming job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know what the Logan Act says, but

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Speaker 1: he was about to be the National Security Director, Agency director.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so I would imagine that prior

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Speaker 1: to getting into that position, he wants to establish a

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Speaker 1: report with the people that are going to be that

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Speaker 1: he's going to be talking with on a daily basis. No, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And what's more, I mean, and I can say as

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Speaker 1: trying to have a reset with Russia. But Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: campaigned on that. Mike Flynn is his incoming national security advisor,

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Speaker 1: so of course he's going to reach out to the

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Speaker 1: Russian ambassador trying to set up that call. And let's

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Speaker 1: assume for a second that that he also eli in

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Speaker 1: the course of his discussions with the President that the

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Speaker 1: President said, you know, well, just make sure that whoever

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Speaker 1: your counterpart is on the Russian side knows that Obama's

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Speaker 1: actions will not be my actions and that things are

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Speaker 1: likely to turn around. Would it be a violation of

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Speaker 1: the Logan Act to to mention that to your counterpart? Well,

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Speaker 1: the Logan Acts is, in my view is red herring

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Speaker 1: has never been prosecuted. More importantly, I don't think it

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Speaker 1: would be improper. But to the key point, which is

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Speaker 1: that did Flynn lie to Vice President Penn? He says

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Speaker 1: he doesn't remember it. And if if we're having a

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Speaker 1: ten minute conversation and for thirty seconds we talked about something,

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Speaker 1: but the main topic with something. I can forgive a

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Speaker 1: guy that's working, you know, fourteen hours a day on

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Speaker 1: his vacation talking to lots of foreign leaders, and when

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Speaker 1: he's giving a briefing several days after that phone call,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mention it. If it wasn't an important thing and

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Speaker 1: the ambassador brought it up, I would imagine that Slynn

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Speaker 1: would maybe get the benefit of the doubt. But it

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Speaker 1: looks to me like this was sort of taken out

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Speaker 1: by the acting Attorney General. There was an Obama holdover

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Speaker 1: and you know, taken to the White House and said

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Speaker 1: this is a very serious matter and this information, I

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Speaker 1: mean the fact that his name appears in an intercept

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Speaker 1: that there's nine sources talking to Washington Post about it

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Speaker 1: that says it's it seems it's pretty wide. So you're

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Speaker 1: basically suggesting that the hold over Sally Yate, so, who

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Speaker 1: involved herself in the executive order as it relates to

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Speaker 1: extreme vetting and and the temporary ban on immigrants, that

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Speaker 1: she was up to her eyeballs in this too. But

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Speaker 1: I listened very closely to the briefing today by Sean Spicer,

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Speaker 1: and he said the White House Council did not believe

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Speaker 1: there was a legal basis to worry about this when

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Speaker 1: he advised the president, so acting on that, then it

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Speaker 1: became an issue of what why wasn't he fully trained

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Speaker 1: its parent with the Vice president. But I'm not so

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Speaker 1: sure that. I mean, yes, he should have remembered that

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Speaker 1: detail of the conversation, but I think that there's a

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Speaker 1: difference between having it come up from the ambassador sort

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Speaker 1: of saying all right, you know, give me some time,

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Speaker 1: we're coming in now, let's talk about the phone call

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Speaker 1: between Putin and Trump and having it the conversation and

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Speaker 1: having an in depth talk with the ambassador, and then

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Speaker 1: shielding that from the Vice president. I think it was

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Speaker 1: the former, not the ladder, and he should I thought

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Speaker 1: should should have been given a pass on that. But

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Speaker 1: because of the way that it was sort of leaked

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Speaker 1: out and everything else, it became a political crisis over

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Speaker 1: the weekend and he had to regot. Yeah. By the way,

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Speaker 1: our friend Paul Sperry as was us one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite writers and authors, and he's amazing how Obama is

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Speaker 1: scheming to sabotage is a New York Post column, this

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Speaker 1: author of the Great American Bank Robbery. All right, so

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Speaker 1: you just heard what Eli said. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you're ready elize column today, but it really fascinated me.

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Speaker 1: And when I put it together with your column from

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago that Obama is using a

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Speaker 1: network of just nonprofits led by Organizing for Action and

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Speaker 1: basically creating a shadow presidency, I'm thinking, do you think

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Speaker 1: he could be up to his eyeballs and this? After all,

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Speaker 1: he did encourage all the protesters to go out there

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Speaker 1: and keep doing what they're doing against the president. Well,

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Speaker 1: he did have control over the intelligence community um at

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Speaker 1: that time, so I wouldn't doubt it he was trying

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Speaker 1: to delegitimize Trump in regards to um, the Russians, uh,

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Speaker 1: leisurely hacking into all these data bases. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me quote from your column. Obama is working behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes to set up will what will effectively be a

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Speaker 1: shadow government, to not only protect his threatened legacy, but

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Speaker 1: to sabotage the incoming administration. And it's a and it's

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Speaker 1: popular American first agenda. Yeah. I mean, all these anti

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Speaker 1: Trump protests, well not all of them, but most of

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Speaker 1: these anti Trump protests are not spontaneous. They're being gennd

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Speaker 1: up by Organizing for Action or o f A, and

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Speaker 1: o f A is Obama. O f A is a

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Speaker 1: nonprofit group that's sufficially tied to to Obama in these protests.

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Speaker 1: In fact, as I reported in the post column, Obama

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Speaker 1: is tweeting through o f as Twitter County. He's holding

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Speaker 1: conference calls to rally the f A troops, and he's

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Speaker 1: listed o f A on his new website. Anybody can

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Speaker 1: go to the homepage and his new website and there

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Speaker 1: at the bottom only one of only two organizations listed

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Speaker 1: on that on that website. One of them is o FA,

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Speaker 1: the others the Obama Foundation. And by the way, o

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Speaker 1: f A is going to be rolled into the Obama

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Speaker 1: Foundation and the Presidential Library, So it's going to become

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Speaker 1: of an even bigger jug or not going forward. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's he's angry because Trump's gonna wipe out in a

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Speaker 1: hundred days of his agenda, assuming that these idiot Republicans

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Speaker 1: get off their ass and repeal and replace Obamacare like

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Speaker 1: they've been promising for eight years. That's right, He's trying

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Speaker 1: to salvage his legacy and his legacy programs like Obamacare

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Speaker 1: and the Dreamers and all that. Yeah. Well, and that's

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Speaker 1: the problem when you rule by executive order. Um, and

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Speaker 1: all right, I want to get back to this with

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Speaker 1: both of you hanging there, Eli Lake and Paul Sperry.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Eight hundred nine one, Shawn are

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Speaker 1: full coverage of what is going on in Washington tonight,

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: I have I think one of the hardest hitting opening

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01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: monologues I've ever done tonight, where you're getting information and

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get anywhere else. There is an all

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Speaker 1: out effort. And I warned all of you ahead of

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Speaker 1: time that this was all coming, that this is not

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Speaker 1: really about General Flynn. This is not about Steve Miller,

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Speaker 1: This is not about Kelly Ann Conway. This is not

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Speaker 1: about the Darth Vader Steve Bannon as they call him.

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Speaker 1: This is not about Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner,

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Speaker 1: Donald Jr. Even when I after Baron Trump and Don

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Speaker 1: Jr's kid. This is about an entire establishment, what Trump

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Speaker 1: called the swamp, incapable of accepting election results. And even

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Speaker 1: the intelligence community now has been highly politicized because as

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Speaker 1: we have been pointing out for the better part of

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Speaker 1: the day, and Eli Lake, who I thought wrote a

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Speaker 1: great column as I mentioned earlier, and he joined us

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Speaker 1: in the last half hour. Normally these inner sets that

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Speaker 1: they're referring to, which is the conversation with General Flynn

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Speaker 1: and his Russian counterpart. There's some of the most tightly

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Speaker 1: held government secrets, and for good reason that you know selectively,

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Speaker 1: as Eli writes, disclosing details of private conversations monitored by

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Speaker 1: the FBI or the n s A gives the permanent state.

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Speaker 1: What does the permanent state mean? Permanent state means all

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Speaker 1: of those people that live there forever, the bureaucrats, the swamp,

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Speaker 1: the people that are making their careers there. The power

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Speaker 1: to destroy reputations from the cloak of an anonymity means

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Speaker 1: they do it all privately. Well, let's leak this. We

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Speaker 1: don't like this guy. And then he writes, this is

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Speaker 1: what police states do. Kind of scary. This is unbridled power.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at the contempt and hatred that

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Speaker 1: exists towards the president, it makes a lot of sense,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. And the media me how does the media

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Speaker 1: not focus in on all of the success in three weeks.

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Speaker 1: They're just obsessed chasing the rabbit, like a greyhound running

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Speaker 1: around a track. They just race after it, race after it,

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Speaker 1: and pay no attention to a political earthquake and a

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Speaker 1: broader narrative constantly calling the president a liar, constantly attacking

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Speaker 1: those around him. Well, now they've been able to they've

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Speaker 1: been able to get a little bit of blood here,

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Speaker 1: and all that's gonna do is increase the scent and

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Speaker 1: increase the breathlessness in their reporting, and increase the intensity

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Speaker 1: by which they try to pick off one by one

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Speaker 1: those people surrounding the president, isolating them one by one,

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Speaker 1: all an attempt to delegitimize the president. Now, it used

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Speaker 1: to be scandalous for US officials to request the identities

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Speaker 1: of US officials that we're incidentally monitored by the government

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Speaker 1: because they were not monitoring General Flynn, they were monitoring

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Speaker 1: his Russian counterpart. But they do in any way to

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Speaker 1: people they don't like. Congressman Nunez, who is out in California,

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Speaker 1: chairman of the Household Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told

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Speaker 1: Eli Eli Lake that he saw the leaks about Flynn's

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Speaker 1: conversations as part of a pattern. Quote. There does appear

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Speaker 1: to be a well orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and

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Speaker 1: others in the administration, from the leaking of phone calls

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Speaker 1: between the president and foreign leaders and to what appears

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Speaker 1: to be high level pis a court information to the

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Speaker 1: leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances. It looks

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Speaker 1: like a pattern. Yeah, it looks like a pattern. What's

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Speaker 1: the pattern? Pattern is to undermine the president. The pattern

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Speaker 1: is the intelligence community in the cloak of secrecy with

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Speaker 1: top secret information that normally never gets leaked, to hurt

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Speaker 1: anybody they can in and sound and surrounding the president.

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Speaker 1: There really now this is a stuff of spy novels,

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Speaker 1: but it's all very important. Obama sent his ambassador to

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Speaker 1: Russia before he was even elected. Remember the former US official,

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Speaker 1: you know, US officials said that building a case against

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Speaker 1: Flynn would be daunting because the law against US citizens

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Speaker 1: interfering with the foreign uh diplomacy, known as the Logan Act,

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Speaker 1: is from s and it's never been prosecuted. There's no

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Speaker 1: case history here to help guide authorities. That's not really

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Speaker 1: what's in play here. And so if it's not a

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Speaker 1: legal issue, as the White House Council told, the President

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Speaker 1: has shown Spicer and Kelly Ann related today and the

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Speaker 1: only thing that I guess is left that for any

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Speaker 1: of us to know is that, Okay, then I guess

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Speaker 1: it had to do with General Flynn not being totally

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Speaker 1: and completely honest and revealing to Vice President Mike Penn's

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Speaker 1: all that had taken place. Um, you know, Mike McFall,

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Speaker 1: who served as US ambassador to Russia during the Obama administration,

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Speaker 1: says he was in Moscow meeting with officials in the

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Speaker 1: weeks leading up to Obama's election. Win. Wow, they even

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Speaker 1: doing it before Wicky Leaks. Got to give them some

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Speaker 1: standing here. They've never been wrong. Have they released a

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Speaker 1: statement this morning? Sat General Flynn was brought down by

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Speaker 1: spies in the Obama administration working hand in glove with

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Speaker 1: the all left fake news media. Wow. Pretty scary. I

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Speaker 1: wonder what they have. And also we learned today from

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Speaker 1: the UK Guardian. Whether it's true or not, I can't confirm,

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Speaker 1: but that the FISA courts turned down an FBI request

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Speaker 1: wire tap Flynn. Unbelievable, unbelievable. All right, let's get to

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Speaker 1: our busy telephones here as we move forward. Susan is

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Speaker 1: in California. Susan, you're on the Sean Hannity Show. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just so disgusted. I mean, I'm not only a

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Speaker 1: California with our governor and our legislatures. It's treason as

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Speaker 1: what they've done with the dam But the fact now

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Speaker 1: that they've they've leaked these conversations with Flynn, I mean,

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01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: the American people see this, and I swear it's going

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01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: to backfire as the Californian and as somebody who used

1486
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: to be in the film business, and it's not going anywhere.

1487
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,839
Speaker 1: These people have lost their minds. They have their panties

1488
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: in a wad, and it's treasonous. The fact that the

1489
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: media and whoever is working at the White House that

1490
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: is leaking this stuff, it's just it's embarrassing. And and

1491
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,480
Speaker 1: watching this train wreck happen with the Democrats is just embarrassing.

1492
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: And and their neglect for for the American people is

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01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 1: embarrassing and just horrendous. And if if I was the

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01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: Justice Department, I would investigate where these leaks came from,

1495
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 1: and I would have a special eye on whether or

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01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: not they're related to Obama officials and holdovers from the

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01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: Obama administration, because I'm pretty sure that's probably what happened here.

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01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, they have to now of course it's it

1499
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: has to be. This is a political attack, and we're

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01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: using now our intelligence has been politicized. This is a

1501
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: big problem. Now, this is not the first time. This

1502
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: has happened a lot of times. Anyway, good observation, good call.

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01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 1: Thank you. Kate is in Houston, Texas, ktrh. Hey, Sean,

1504
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: I've got two things I want to talk to you about,

1505
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: and the second thing I hope we get you because

1506
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little agreement with my friend there, Linda.

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01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: So I just want to tell you, Linda's ears just

1508
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: perked up. Linda, you better put your microphone on now

1509
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: so I don't have to order. Come on, Linda, We're gonna,

1510
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: like Kate finish. She's going to support me on my

1511
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: second point. Okay, So the first point, I just gotta

1512
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: tell you I am heartbroken over when it happened to

1513
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: General's Lynn. He's a three star general, a man of

1514
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: incredible integrity, his record impeccable, and he's having to lead

1515
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: in the shame and the media breathing him out in

1516
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the way that he's being about. I can't tell you

1517
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: how disgusted I am. I saw that in the middle

1518
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: of the night last night, and I just couldn't even

1519
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: really sleep. How would wake up at three o'clock and

1520
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: look up that four and I'm thinking about this poor man.

1521
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: It's not it's him, it's Kelly and Conway, it's Sean Spicer,

1522
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: who I like to call Sean Spicy because he's rather

1523
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: spicy when he gets out there and he starts talking.

1524
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: And they're going after anybody and any anyone like you

1525
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: were saying from the beginning around Trump, as if they

1526
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: were going after the witches and the Sale trial. These

1527
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: are not the people that the media is making not

1528
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: to be, and yet everyone has collectively lost their brain

1529
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: and being able to process information. I'm really disgusted. You

1530
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: have every you have every right to be because but

1531
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: you gotta understand something here, and I get it. I

1532
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: I have done monologues on this radio program, on television.

1533
01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: They are not your friends, no, the you know what

1534
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: we're paying me. The thing that is also interesting to

1535
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: me about the whole Congress, I mean, we've got people

1536
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: singing folk songs on the capital steps and they're given

1537
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: out all this information and they're feeding the media, the

1538
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: media backlash. Right. These are people that I think everyone

1539
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: needs to do is listen to your show right now.

1540
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: Recognize we pay them, We are the ones that hire them.

1541
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: They are working for us, and we don't seem to

1542
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: be able to get that message clear off. Enough we

1543
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: did with Chump, but we gotta do it again and

1544
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: get all these bunafix. I mean, secially, when Nancy Pelosi

1545
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: starts talking to anybody really thinks it's like your grandmother

1546
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: that you're worried, you know, at a party. When is

1547
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 1: she going to say, you know what I'm saying. But

1548
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 1: she's one shy of the full fifty two. I honestly

1549
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 1: don't know how she gets realisted every time you know

1550
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I understand completely. Look, okay, we're gonna

1551
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: tell you. You know, I said to uh people that

1552
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: were going into the White House that I know that

1553
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: I'm probably, I said, listen, trust me. Corporate politics and

1554
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: for example, there's politics and every business. I don't know

1555
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: if you if you're in business or you've been in

1556
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 1: an office environment, this politics everywhere. One of really important

1557
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 1: decisions I made very early in my TV careers. I'm

1558
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm in the building maybe an hour and a half

1559
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: a day. That's it. I show up at my air

1560
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: time to do my show, and and I have an

1561
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: office here at radio when nobody bothers me, and I'm

1562
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: alone all day. I like to be alone and doing

1563
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 1: my preparation. You've got the best teams. Look at people.

1564
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them and they're all nodding their head

1565
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: affirmatively as we speak, and I listen, I really do.

1566
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: I have the best team in radio and the best

1567
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 1: team in television and agree, and I'm going to talk

1568
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: about what Linda and I just totally okay, all right.

1569
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 1: The other day you were getting a little spicy and

1570
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, Linda, she cusses very time she

1571
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: opens up her mouth. And she said, well, you know,

1572
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 1: Linda curses all the time. Linda, Well yeah, but she

1573
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: threw it again. She said, you know, you've been getting

1574
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: it all the time. And here's the thing. You've got

1575
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: little fans, four of them being my children, and they

1576
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 1: love you, Uncle Sean. You know, they love thank you.

1577
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: And you've been throwing out this word that is used

1578
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: in the Bible, but you're not using it in the

1579
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: disblical sect. Tell you, I'm gonna say it. What is it? Word? Okay?

1580
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: The S S? What you talking about? Donkeys? You know,

1581
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 1: but you're not in every time every time you say

1582
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: that word, my kids like, can you just say art

1583
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: for the mistakes to say a R S S. What

1584
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: if we had what if we had like a little

1585
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 1: agreement where he wasn't allowed to say it until after

1586
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: four o'clock. Okay, okay, that's my big thing is he

1587
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: can't curse in front of the kids. And three o'clock.

1588
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: The kids are in the car on the way home,

1589
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: and we have to educate them. So we'll just curse

1590
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 1: the different we're in different time zones when it's four

1591
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: o'clock here, it's three o'clock at Central time. Okay, well,

1592
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: in the first hour of the show, in the first

1593
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: hour of the show, if you're in a car with

1594
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: your kids. No, no, no, I can't make this problem. Listen,

1595
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: I gotta be real, Kate. Is the way real people talk.

1596
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: Even I you want to spell it, maybe we'll start

1597
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: spelling it like donkeys in the Bible. You can just

1598
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: like it. Can I love you? But if he starts

1599
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 1: saying donkeys in the Bible, I gotta go home. It's

1600
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 1: just not gonna work. I think that's it's just not

1601
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 1: gonna work. I love you, girl, But no, alright, listen,

1602
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: you're asking. You said she would agree, you have no.

1603
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: She has the worst potty mouth of anybody on this team.

1604
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: By four admittedly so, but I don't do it on

1605
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: the air like some people. Is not a bad word.

1606
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: Art is not a bad words. You can't even say

1607
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: it right now, even if he can't get it right.

1608
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: But all it is ever thank you, thank you for

1609
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: helping him. I don't know. I've never I never used

1610
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: really bad words in front of my kids, but my

1611
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: daughter kids. When I say that, when I say that

1612
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: word in front of my daughter, she still hits me.

1613
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: I think, I know. The big problem is when they

1614
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: are able to spell. Once they start spelling offense, listen,

1615
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: they know. Listen. I have in a will, certain provisions

1616
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: in my will, and I've told my kids about your eulogy. No, no,

1617
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: I want you to. I want to sell the otherwise

1618
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell your life story. Okay, so here's the

1619
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 1: truth about So I would tell my daughter, well, I

1620
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: put in there a certain legal thing that for you

1621
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: and your brother, and uh, you know, when you have

1622
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: to explain it to somebody else in your life, just

1623
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: say my dad was a crazy talk show host. Is

1624
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 1: nothing I can do. He was just nuts. Yeah, exactly.

1625
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 1: That was very nice. Thank you, Kate, Love you alright.

1626
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: Kiss always a matter of fact, stay on the line.

1627
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 1: We'll send Trump and Sherry's Burris to you, guys. Valentine's

1628
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: thank you, alright, stay on the line. Eight nine one

1629
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: Shawn is a number.