1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Argentina's leading presidential candidate is Javier Melea. He is pledging 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: to close the country central bank and saying he would 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: make every effort to avoid a default on the country's 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: sovereign debt if he wins the October vote. Mela spoke 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg swan Pablo Spinetto. Here's a portion of their conversation. 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: I think there's a previous discussion about dollarization. Actually, strictly speaking, 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: it's to get rid of the central bank. The dollarization 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: is an instrumental issue at the end of the day. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: There are four argumentative axies. One has to do with 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: a moral issue, which is that stealing is wrong and 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: senior ridge is nothing more or less than a swindle 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: by politicians against good people. Therefore, let's say, if we 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: consider that stealing is wrong, one of the greatest thieves 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: in the history of mankind is the central bank. The 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: second point has to do with a technical issue, because 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: in the Argentine case, it is more evident when a 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 2: product has no demand, its price is zero. So if 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: the local currency has no demand and it's the price 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 2: should be zero. The equilibrium real balances are zero. Whatever 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: amount of money a central bank wishes to impose. The 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: counterpart is that the price level is infinite demand, then 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: its price should be zero. Equilibrium real balances are zero 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: whatever amount of money a central bank wants to impose. 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: The flip side is that the price level has infinity, 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: And what do you do with the central bank? Would 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: you close it? At one point you made the joke 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 2: that you were going to set it on fire. Well, 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: what you do with the building is a problem of 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: what you decide to do with it. It's a figure, 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: it's a metaphor. What I'm saying is that the institution 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: doesn't exist anymore. I am saying that in the transition, 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: until you can transform the banking system into a free 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: banking system, it will have to fulfill the function of 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: regulating the banks. The superintendent of financial institutions will continue 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: to operate until a free banking system can be set up. 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: And in that idea, if you are president in six months, 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: ten months, one year, all the bills in circulation and 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: in Argentina would be dollars, all dollars. 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: Yes, that's Javier Mile, a leading presidential candidate in Argentina, 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: speaking with Bloomberg. Juan Pablo Spinetto to hear more conversations 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: like this. Subscribe to your Bloomberg Talks podcast, available on Apple, Spotify, 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcast