1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: This is the Talking Cowboys Break, streaming live on Dallas 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys app. What's 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Up Happy Friday. Welcome to an NFL Draft edition of 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: The Talking Cowboys Break. We Got one pick down. Nine 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: picks currently left to go over the next two days. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips inside the s WBC Morgan Studio, joined by 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman Mickey spack Nola breaking down day one, looking 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: ahead to day two. How about it fellas Layton Layton 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: h from same. That's what I felt like like watching though. 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: Was it that movie uh Bull Durham when he was 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: like Abby Calvin Lalus, like you need a nickname like 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: Layton vander Esh. I think they're they're calling him van 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Ash or van Ash or something like that. Van dropping 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: the ear from it. Yeah, I mean, just something talking 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: about the people in the war room that have been 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: discussing him for the last months. They have been they 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: have been a guy they've had their eye on for 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: a while. Yep. I can't sit here and say, I 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: mean I've been saying for a couple of weeks, he's 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: not a guy that really excites me. So he doesn't 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't play last night. So it doesn't 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: he can't change, but uh, you know, we'll see how 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, they had him rated high. They 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, as I wrote last night, this comes down 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: to this was what their biggest need was. And you 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: can say, all you want to take best available player. 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: Maybe they did. They'll probably tell you they did, but 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: they definitely took their best available need, and their need 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: was linebacker. Their depth wasn't there. They didn't cover themselves 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: as much as they did other positions in free agency, 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: and so they had a guy there and then they 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: took him. Mick thoughts on Layton vander Esch the nineteenth 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: pick last night and round one of the drafts. See, 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: all I know is that's who they basically had pencil 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: before this even started. And there was some concern earn 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: that somebody was gonna jump them and grab them. And 37 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: the fact that they were able to sit tight give 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: up no more draft resources to get the guy that 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: they pegged. I said, well, okay, you can't ask for 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: anymore if you did all the evaluation and that's the 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: guy you wanted at number two. I thought they showed 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: great with straint with all the trading that was going 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: on with all the guys that were falling. I kind 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: of compared it to you know, how you go to 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: the grocery store and you got a shopping list, this 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: is what I'm going to buy, and then you see 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: this display of something over there and you go, oh, yeah, 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: I want one of those, and then oh, I want 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: one of those, and then you over buy. And I 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: thought that's what was gonna happen. Depends if you're hungry. Yeah, 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: don't go hungry. Right, Well, they might have been sea, 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, and here comes Derwin James. Dude, when he 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: started falling, it was like, okay, they're right. You just 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: knew they were gonna do it. And Edmonds and you know, 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: they had their choice of wide receivers, but they said 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: this was our plan and let's execute it. And they did. Yeah, 57 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: so if nothing else, they didn't spend any extra resources 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: to get what they wanted to get. Stephen Jones said 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: they wound up their final evaluations. They had about fifteen 60 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: first round grades on guys, and it very well could 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: be that Vanderesh was a higher grade than Derwin James. Otherwise, 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: you don't you'd move up for a guy if you 63 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: felt like he was really high on your board. My 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: understanding just people we talked to in the building is 65 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: that he was he was a higher rated player than 66 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: Durwin James. They weren't really thinking of trading up for him. 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: But if somebody took Vanderesh before them and James was there, 68 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: I definitely think they would have taken them. But you know, 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: and I've said it a bunch of times, I think 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: they have a plan here at Safety. I really do. 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: And I think that there's something that they're there, they've 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: been looking into and we all know what it is, 73 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: and you know, if it's going to happen, it could 74 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: happen today. And then acquiring a veteran safety, I got 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: two fourth round picks. I'm willing to give up. That's 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: why I said. They currently have nine picks available. At 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: the very least they can use them as AMMO to 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: move up right both in the fourth Yeah, that would 79 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: be my starting spot. Now I might have to do better. Yeah, 80 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: but is anybody else bidding against me? Right? Well, there's 81 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: a story that Jess came out like a few minutes 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: ago that Seattle said they have fielded at least two offers. 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: But of course they're gonna say that right, that guy's 84 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: not you know, this isn't the guy from draft day 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: that was that's never done it before. I mean, this 86 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: guy's like, yeah, we've got more than one people, no 87 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: matter what. Right, I mean, Steven's not gonna bid against themself. Yeah, 88 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: we've got another offer, sweeten the deal, and maybe they 89 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: do and find for another offer. But then, what's what's 90 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: my contract offer too? Yeah, because that's first and foremost. 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: But but does Seattle care about that? No? They don't, 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: but I do they? Yeah? Right? And my value what 93 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to give up all right to spend that 94 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: it is going to affect how much I'm willing to 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: give you? What about and what are they gonna do? 96 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: What are they gonna do if if no one else 97 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: offers them anything? Yeah, okay, yours go ahead. What about 98 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: number fifty? No, I wouldn't do it well. And we 99 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: can get to that a little bit later in our podcast. 100 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: Here names of guys that are still on the board 101 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: in day two. I got a pretty good list of guys, 102 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: some guys that everybody thought would be a first round pick, Like, 103 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: you're still out there? Is there eighteen guys you like? Though? 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: I don't have eighteen guys, but I've got but again, 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: like it won't be the eighteen. They can move up. 106 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: They have they have nine draft picks, and those compensatory 107 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: picks now are tradeable. So Marcus Lawrence type scenario of 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: possible if there's a guy they really like. I know 109 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to vander Esh but I feel like 110 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: we're kind of we're kind of there for those you 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: want to go there, you got eighteen? No, I don't, 112 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: how about six, because there's six or seven I've got. 113 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: I've got six on my list. Really, that's hit him. 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: I bet I can name him. Go go name Well, 115 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: let's let's start me. I'm gonna go with Courtland Sutton. 116 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: I know they like him. There's one in you all right? 117 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: Uh dj chruck Oh I didn't have him on there. 118 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: That's another one. Yeah, yeah, I do like him. I 119 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: got one more receiver on there, James Washington. He's probably 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: a third no you think, but but you like him. 121 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: That's good. Like him. One of the top guys kept 122 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: at that position. Will Hernandez. Yes, a lot of people 123 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: thought he might be gone by the teens. Last night. 124 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Connor Williams. There's another one. Yeah, Tackle from Texas, Iowa 125 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: James Daniel Daniel Yes, okay. And then and then maybe 126 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: the best one on the whole thing is Harold Landry. 127 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Yes see on your list, Yes, defensive end Boston College. 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: There's a report from NFL network this morning that he 129 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: may have some medical stuff that's causing him to slide. Yeah, 130 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: mankle injury last year. I believe they heal it was 131 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: a high ankle and he would be fine if that's 132 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: the injury. Check him out. I need did do a 133 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: ct scale comment. Oh, I've got my list upstairs and 134 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I didn't bring it, but he was on it that 135 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: he Betty was going to be something. He's gonna take 136 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: a look at him. He was one of the thirty visits, right, 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: I believe so. I think he was the one that 138 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: we were a little surprised about when he came in. 139 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: That's another guy that you thought nineteen early twenties, you 140 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: know what I thought. But he would have gotten some consideration. Yeah, 141 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: I think if vander Esh wasn't there, um just because hey, 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: you never have enough of those, right, But you know what, 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: there's some other names that don't really help the Cowboys. 144 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: I got one more guys I don't have him, but 145 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: I just run back and he's a guy that you 146 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: want to you want to get involved there. He's he's 147 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: a guy that somebody needs to take him. He's a stud. 148 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Dallas there, tight end, That's where I was going to go. 149 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't have tight ends on this list. Why not 150 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: love second round tight ends and loves him because we've 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: had that an argument. We had an argument like, hey, 152 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: come on us, Yeah, enjoy the bench. Um, here's the bench. 153 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Here's Keith Gwinn, team's coach. Get to know him. Here's 154 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: the phone number for Marty b Anthony Fasano. This is 155 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: how it works. Um, look how well he's taking care 156 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: of swim in Hannah. They like it, they love him, 157 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: but he doesn't come. Then quit? Who's your name? Who's 158 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: your name? More the safety from Southern miss Yeah that's fair. Yeah. 159 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: I think Brian mocked him in his final two cents 160 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: in the second round. So I mean, if you're looking 161 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: at safety's in the draft, Brian got the vander Ish, 162 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: he did Dave and I got the position right. We 163 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: went with Shaun Evans. You went with a guy who 164 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: went really early. No, Hey, Saints loved him. Saints loved 165 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: him enough to give him the second I put Davenport. 166 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: But in the little summary I did, right, I really 167 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be vander Ish, but I'm gonna 168 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: go with Davenport because I kind of wanted a different 169 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: looking guy on our picture, you know what. They liked him, Yeah, 170 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: they did that. They liked him, they thought, but they 171 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: didn't think he'd last. Which the thing about Davenport and 172 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: the fact that he's a good speed rusher that you know, 173 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: can't get enough of him, makes me think is Harold 174 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Andrew and guy that they're like, wait a second, we 175 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: didn't think he'd be around, but now it's comparing him 176 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: to what do you have the choice of wide receiver? Now? Like, 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: who's going to be there when I get to the 178 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: third round. You you probably talked to some people, you know, 179 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: in the last few days and stuff, but I was 180 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: told that if they don't get a speed receiver and 181 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: then this day, like after this third round, that's going 182 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: to be really, really tough, and no one's going to 183 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: come in and make a significant difference after after that, 184 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: Like this is it like they they're almost pigeonholed into it. 185 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: So and I guess we should talk about that, by 186 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: the way, because I think a lot of people, especially 187 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: at the stadium, after Drew and Michael got him all 188 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: fired up about taking the next eighty eight, what they 189 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: thought lot about wide receivers, And obviously they had their choice, 190 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: and they didn't think enough of those guys to take 191 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: in the first round. So to me, their evaluation of 192 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: those two guys Ridley and More compared to what you 193 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: can get in the second round, the talent gap wasn't 194 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: great enough to use that a first round pick. It's 195 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: a little like two thousand and four. Is that what 196 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna say. No, I was gonna say last year 197 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: after okay, oh yeah, you know, Taco, you take your 198 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: pass rusher in the first round, right, a guy that 199 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: you think has a high ceiling, kind of like vander 200 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: esh because you think the talent pool at dB is 201 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: a lot deeper than it as it passed Rush. So 202 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: that was the case last year, and then you look 203 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: at it this year and say, okay, we can get 204 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: our receiver in the second round, maybe third round even Yeah, 205 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: and now exactly now they were asked that question, they said, no, 206 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: we just love him. They love it. But you always 207 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: got to look ahead too. Yeah. Absolutely, but you don't 208 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: want to tip your hand. Yeah, I said two thousand 209 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: and four. I just remember when it was Stephen Jackson 210 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: and you know, hindsight twenty twenty Stephen Jackson. They probably 211 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: should have should have done that, but they were a 212 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: little scared of injury concerns they had. They even liked 213 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: Kevin Jones and Chris Perry, but they thought, man, these 214 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: second round backs, Julius Jones, Tatum Bell, you know, we 215 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: can get somebody like that. And I think this is 216 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: a scenario where they think of, you know what, DJ Chark, 217 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: James Washington, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk. Maybe that you know, 218 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: they can get some guys in the second, you know, 219 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: or third round. But I think Kirk is two high fifty. 220 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll do it at fifty, but I 221 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: think they would. They would love if he was there 222 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: after that guy's gonna play ten twelve years and Sutton, 223 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to move up for, aren't you? Yeah? 224 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: I would think you gotta wait, what eighteen spots? That 225 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like when when there's a guy like everyone's 226 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: talking about, like, man, I can't believe Hernandez and Landry 227 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: and Sutton like tonight just thirty three, thirty four, thirty five, 228 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean like before before you've even eaten the second 229 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: you know ribs, you know from the barbecue. It's like, oh, okay, 230 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: well that guy's off the board, crossed him off, you guys? Yes, 231 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: how was the draft? Some sort of chicken and then 232 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: there was some sort of beef roast? It was actually 233 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: pretty good. It wasn't like rib roast, but it was 234 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: It was pretty okay. So when's the last time that 235 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: you were not at the facility for a first round 236 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys Draft? Nineteen eighty four? Because I wouldn't hear yet. Okay, 237 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: that was it. I always watched the I've always watched 238 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: the draft on television. Wow, I was working, you know 239 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: what it was? It was pretty neat um and I 240 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: don't know if need is a good enough adjective to use. Uh, 241 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: it was actually awesome. If you were sitting in the stands, 242 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,119 Speaker 1: I think you would have felt like you were inside 243 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: the draft because they made it obviously you're in the 244 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: stadium one hundred thousand, right, but they made it kind 245 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: of intimate by making it smaller and bringing the stage 246 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: kind of to that east end towards the end zone 247 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: and then packing the bottom the floor in front of 248 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: the stage with people each teams two thirty two teams 249 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: with fifty each in their section. That was awesome. So 250 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: that's like one hundred yea thousand or whatever it is, 251 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: different little delegations. Yeah, yeah, so that was neat. And 252 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: those people came dressed for success, like the people from Yeah, 253 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: you knew exactly that their colts fan Tampa Bay they were. 254 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: They were all in costume ipatches. I mean, it was 255 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: great and so and they had the Cowboy delegation front 256 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: and center right by the steps there by the way 257 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: that came down from the stage. So that was neat. Um. 258 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: It was an half hour before the draft started and 259 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: I was looking around, going, oh man, they've thrown a 260 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: big party and not everybody's coming right. Well, they were 261 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: all outside, and by time they got on the start 262 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: the place was full. The seating area, the standing room 263 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: was full. Where they had the radio row was above 264 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: the first section they built like a little auxiliary press 265 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: box there, and then the next section up was where 266 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: all the writers were, And I mean it was good. 267 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: I was shocked that they had it done in time 268 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: because when I was there twelve hours or twenty four 269 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: hours earlier. There was a lot of work to do. 270 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: The video boards were superb. They broke them into so 271 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: many different things. They built some extra ones on the 272 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: stage so you could see the guy's bio every time, 273 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: you can keep tract of who had been drafted so far. 274 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: And also they had a picture of what was going 275 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: on on the stage, so the people from a fire 276 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: could see all that. So there was like three or 277 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: four different things going on. So yeah, I thought it 278 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: was It was wonder We took a peek at it 279 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: on Monday before the Charlotte's press conference, and it didn't 280 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: look like there was a bad seat in the house 281 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: just from the vanished point walking around. Yeah, because the 282 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: seats probably started at about the five yard line and 283 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: went around the bowl to the other five Yeah. Um. 284 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: And the people were into it, I mean they were 285 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: they were into it. Uh. And they were into Roger 286 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: Goodell too, by the way. Yeah, that was a good 287 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: strategy move in theory to try to flank him with 288 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: Roger Stauback and Jason Witton and you know, Troy as 289 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: soon as he started talking though, you know in the parts, 290 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, every commissioner gets booted every sport, it seems 291 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: that way, but not by thirty thousand people I know. 292 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, he knew this was gonna happen, 293 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: So is he gonna go Drew Pearson on him? Right? 294 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna I'm gonna fire back? Right? He tried, 295 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: And I didn't hear it because I would. I didn't 296 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: have my headset side when he said, can't believe you 297 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: guys are booing the Cowboys, And it's like, I didn't 298 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: hear that till last night when I kind of got 299 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: home and NFL Network was replaying that. Can you imagine 300 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: replaying the draft at about twelve thirty at night? No, Like, 301 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: who's watching? All right? Let's so anyway, it was, it was, 302 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: It was. It was great. The people I talked to 303 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: that were there, they loved it. And the NFL experience 304 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: was packed when the draft started, so the people that 305 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: were in there, there was a lot more outside. 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Register now at NFL dot com, slash fan 355 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: mobile packs and check in at NFL Draft Experience to 356 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: be part of the action. This is the Talking Cowboys, 357 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: break streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 358 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: officials Dallas Cowboys app Welcome back inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio. 359 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Nick Eaven, Mickey Spagnola breaking down Day one 360 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. Layton Vanderesh is your first round pick. 361 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: We've been looking ahead to Day two as well. We'll 362 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: continue to do that for the next few minutes before 363 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: we dive back into draft stuff. Banderesh expected to fly 364 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: in today via helicopter landing GET one thirty landing GET 365 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: one thirty. He'll meet with the media here in Dallas 366 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: as well. And Nick, I mean, hey, this this draft 367 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: weekend doesn't have any shortage of news. He has a 368 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: good chance of being trumped big time. Obviously, you know, 369 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: and you guys are probably seeing some of the same reports. 370 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: We just kind of came across to us that there's 371 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: reports that Jason Witten is planning on retiring. We'll see. 372 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: I don't know much about it right now, no official 373 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: word four team from ESPN. Yeah, you know, he's a 374 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: as a veteran and established in this business as they get. 375 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: So he's, uh, what's the reports saying he's gonna be 376 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: planning I meet with Jerry Jones. This is all again, 377 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: all that we know now. We were talking about it 378 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: in the break. Some of the things, the way he's 379 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: answered the questions makes this seem like it's not so surprising. Well, 380 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I would say there was a 381 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago there was a team event here 382 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: honoring him att Smith. He spoke at it and was 383 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: asked again, hey, there's reports about TV being interested in you, 384 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: maybe auditioning for gigs when you're done. What do you 385 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: think and he said I think. He said something along 386 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: lines of I'm planning to play football this year. That's 387 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: my plan. And he did go on to say I 388 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: want to play till I'm forty if I can or 389 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: something like that. So you came away from it thinking, Okay, 390 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: that's kind of in line with what he said before. 391 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Maybe looking back, it's not super concrete that answer, but again, hey, 392 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: nothing's official from the Cowboys side. You know what, when 393 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: I've seen him answer the question, well, I asked him 394 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: once walking down the hallway jokingly, it's like, oh, so 395 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: TV job, huh. He goes, yeah, that's getting around, isn't it. 396 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah it is. He goes, yeah, okay, 397 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: just like that. And then when he answered it the 398 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: last time, what would he have been available for not 399 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: not that just the other day the other day, Yeah, 400 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: he was over here with doing the thing and he said, yeah, 401 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm playing. And he didn't say it with a lot 402 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: of conviction, like, he didn't expound on it. It was 403 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: just flat, yeah I'm playing. And I was like, and 404 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: I just kind of thought to myself, but I just, 405 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: you know, blew it off something. It just doesn't seem 406 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: right because of the way he's been with this team, 407 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: with this franchise. To to do that now when you're 408 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: you're already passed free agency really and you're you know, 409 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: you're hearing the draft, and I mean to leave him 410 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: to leave him just like that, unless there was some 411 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: kind of injury or something that we didn't know about, 412 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: you know which, Again, reports Adam Schefter's tweeted reports, are 413 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: there maybe an opportunity in the money night booth. So 414 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, we're on the air right now. 415 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: We'll try to get to the bottom of it. Obviously, 416 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: there's some other things going on with the draft as well. 417 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Maybe he maybe saw it last night after he attended 418 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: the draft. How cool our jobs are. But I hear you. 419 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Dallas go Dare on that lay. 420 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, hey, you still got time to 421 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: make a second round pick. Only one tight end went right? Hurst, Yeah, Hurst, 422 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: the South Dakota State tight end is still there. Oklahoma, Yeah, Oklahoma. 423 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: Andrews he's there. H So Nut Notre Dame. What's the guys. 424 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: But again, people in the building like Blake Jarlin guy 425 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: that they signed off the practice squad to prevent I 426 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: believe it was Philly from poaching him. So but again, 427 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, at some point there's been talking 428 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: about trying to find his successor down the line. Anyway, 429 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: So see what happens, yeah, yea, and stay tight end. 430 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: So that's where we are right now. Um. Interesting, it's 431 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: never dull, is it? No? Why why would we want 432 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: it any other way? All right, well we'll we'll continue 433 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: to monitor that and try to get an update for 434 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: you as well. Any thoughts on day two or you 435 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: guys want to chat about Layton vander Esh's potential role 436 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: on this football team. Well, I think he might go 437 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: at lineback, he might play tight end. And he's six 438 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: five and he could you know what, he probably could 439 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: do it too. He was a high school quarterback even 440 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: though it was eight man foot Yeah, you know he can't. 441 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: What's the phone number the way in case we want 442 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: to get a call from eight eight five two nine? 443 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: Went back old school? Old school? Yeah number. Um. One 444 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: thing you know he said about the eight eight man football, 445 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting, was just the fact that 446 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: when you're playing that, you get pretty good at open 447 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: field tackles. Everything is an open field tackle. So when 448 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: they play eight man, they played a regularation size foot. 449 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: I feel they I've seen it. They actually I've seen 450 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: it at the stadium. They it's not it's not the 451 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: same size like when they play six man. It can't be. No, 452 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: it's not the same size of the width isn't the same, 453 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: but I mean still it's everything's just wide open there. 454 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, it made him, I guess, a 455 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: sound tackler. And and that's one thing about that they 456 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: really like, because that he's a pass defender. You know, 457 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: he's a guy that they can they can cover the 458 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: tight ends, which is something they really need. So, um, 459 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: I just think I just think that, um, he's so 460 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: athletic and they need that at that linebacker position. Yeah, 461 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: and stop me. I've done like three things already this morning, 462 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: so I can't remember where I've said it, but what 463 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: their thoughts were on him was, if we draft vander 464 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: esh will have three guys to do two jobs, and 465 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: the two jobs are middle linebacker and weak side linebacker. 466 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: But part of that middle linebacker job is to play 467 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: on the nickel. And so I don't think this is 468 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: like a strike against Jalen Smith and where he's at. 469 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a all right, let's let Jalen do 470 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: what he does best first and second down, and this 471 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: guy can help us on the week side if Sean 472 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: Lee gets hurt, and he can help us on our 473 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: nickel defense. So I think the versatility is what they 474 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: really liked about him. Well, I think let's just flip 475 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: gears here. Yeah, it sounds like this is happening. It 476 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: sounds like Jason Witten is going to retire. Um, it's 477 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: not what we expected to talk about today. No, but hey, 478 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: we got we got breaking news. Yeah, breaking I love it. 479 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, Chris Martinson, he's he's on it. And you 480 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: know ESPN and uh, Todd Archer, Dallas More, I mean, 481 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm ESPN Dallas and uh, you know he's he's close 482 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: with Witten, and you know these people are they know 483 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: what's going on there and and um, you know I 484 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: talked with Witten just a few days ago. I just 485 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: I didn't didn't get the sense that that was happening, 486 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 1: and we did as well. But it sounds like there 487 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: might be some other opportunities for for him, you know, 488 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: and just kind of like with Romo, I mean, can 489 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: you still play, yes, but as an opportunity here to 490 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: to do something else. So, Um, from what we know 491 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: right now, the Cowboys are not reporting anything. Cowboys haven't 492 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: but just from the reports that we're hearing, the stuff 493 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: that I've kind of talked to a few people, it 494 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: sounds like there's a lot of truth to this, and 495 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: it looks like Jason Witten is going to be hanging 496 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: him up. Well, if I remember last week, can I 497 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: throw something real quick? Yeah, April twenty seventh, that's today, right, 498 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago is when they drafted him. April two, 499 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: get out of here? Three? Yes, two thousand and three, 500 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: April twenty seventh. Wow, what made you think of that? Well, 501 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: yesterday we were looking it up. We were looking up 502 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: moments in April twenty twenty six, and I looked up 503 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: and I saw while they drafted Terence Newman. Okay, that's 504 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: pretty good for Parcel's first pick. But April twenty seventh, 505 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: they actually as oh social media, get it ready? Fifteen 506 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: years to the day, Yeah, changed the cop You guys 507 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: thought I was crazy last week when I said they 508 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: need to take a tight end. Hey, as long as 509 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: he's here. Two. Now, there was a there was a 510 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: reason why, right, even it was into his head. Well, 511 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm sure he didn't wake up this morning and go okay, 512 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm out. Maybe maybe not, or maybe he got on 513 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: the set of one of the networks last night like this. 514 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: I like this. Well, if this is the case, and 515 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: again it's not official, it's a Hall of Fame career 516 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: that would be coming to a close for sure, and 517 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: instantly a ring of honor. Remember, I would think first ballot, 518 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: if there is such a thing, change your mind about 519 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: taking a second round tight end? Yeah, I think it 520 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: instantly becomes a top two three need on this football 521 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: team right now, wide receiver or tight end. Yeah. Safety 522 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: potentially safety's down the line now, yeah, because he's you know, 523 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: he's been kind of that safety blanket for Dak. We 524 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: knew he was for Romo for a long time. Um, 525 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I guess it depends on how 526 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: much they really like the guys they have on the 527 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: roster right now. Could you wait around or two, but 528 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: you gotta look at it at some point, I would 529 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: think pretty quickly if indeed this goes down. Yeah, I 530 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: mean when you when you're looking at you looking at 531 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: the tighten position of kind of what they have. I mean, 532 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: obviously and Hannah retired as well, Um so did Mark Tellis? Yeah? 533 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: Uh so you're looking at Jarwin? Um not in disorder? Swain? Yeah? Yeah, 534 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean you needs some you need some help in here, 535 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: and and you know, I think you need some some 536 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: veteran help. Um, you know, a free agent or type 537 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: type guy that that's out there, Um, if if, if 538 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: he's there. I mean, I know Swam's got three years now, 539 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: and but I still think that, you know, they need 540 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: somebody that that's kind of done it and played them, 541 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a complete tight end. I don't 542 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: know if if there's any complete tight ends really up there. 543 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: Maybe go Dare. But he's a small school guy. So well, 544 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: you found Witton in the third round, right all right? 545 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: And he was a day one starter, although Dan Campbell 546 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: was here, right, Yeah, I'm looking at the third round 547 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: then the second or third, but they were looking at 548 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: him in the second round. Yeah, same thing happened. The 549 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: same thing happened we talked about. They thought there was 550 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: more depth that tied in than there was a center. 551 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: So they took the center, Al Johnson, and they hoped 552 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: they could get Witten in the third round, and they did. 553 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: How many tight ends were on this thirty visits list? 554 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: My question is with the timings. I know, Mick, now 555 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: you're saying, oh, well, this has been in the plans, 556 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: but I mean, were they planning on this truly happening 557 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: or in the back of their mind to think he'll 558 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 1: be back one more year. I don't. I didn't hear 559 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: anything from anybody that was suspecting this to happen. Yeah, 560 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: So because we've been talking like, hey, plan is for 561 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: him to come back, he's gonna play ninety plus percent 562 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: of the snaps like he always does, and then kind 563 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: of take it a year by year approach. So yeah, 564 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, naturally, I think this might change your draft 565 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: strategy pending official news. Well, you know, we talked about 566 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: it a lot of times about okay, who you have 567 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: to play a game tomorrow. You know, like if you 568 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: had to play, what could you play with? What could 569 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: you do? You have enough linebackers to get this thing done? 570 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Not really, but you know, safety with Byron Jones if 571 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: he's moving, which he is, you know you got to 572 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: get a safety in here. Receiver, I think you'd be 573 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: okay left guard, but now tied end tight end changes 574 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: things dramatically. Yeah, and now all of a sudden, that's 575 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: like an extra need where we've been talking about, Oh, 576 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: you got these picks, you can use it and move 577 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: around whatever. I mean, Now more needs come into focus. 578 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: We just name that tight end you mentioned guard or tackle, 579 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, kind of depending on what you want to 580 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: do with Lyle Collins. I think like wherever he goes, 581 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: you could take the open spot and draft a guy. 582 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: Can never have enough pass rushers. I mentioned safety, wide receiver. 583 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this team's got some some needs. I think 584 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: running back, running, Yeah, quarterback, m well not now you 585 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: could live without drafting one, but well you need a third, 586 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: you need you need a couple of arms for training 587 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: camp at the very least. Now, So we'll see. Hey, 588 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: why don't we take a phone call fellas knt who 589 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: we got on the line, Sir, got Brian in Texas. Hey, Brian, 590 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: what's up? Brian? Hey, what's going on? Guys? Hey? Hey, 591 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: quick point. I was watching the draft last night with 592 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: my brother and I'm banging on the table for Derwin James, 593 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: just sliding all the way down. And of course we 594 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: don't make any moves. We get Layton Vanderish and while 595 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm high on him, I think he's a really 596 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: good linebacker. I wasn't thrilled, but you know, Will McClay 597 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: and all the guys up there, they've kind of earned 598 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: my trust on that. So I'm gonna give it to him. 599 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: I think that linebackers definitely a need. And you know, 600 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: it's funny. The reason I called in was to talk 601 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: about a trade up scenario for one of the guards available. 602 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: But what do you guys think about reaching out to 603 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: somebody to look at Dallas Goddard so tied in out 604 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: of South Dakota. Yea, yeah, Nick mentioned him. Guy's a 605 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: tremendous athlete, pass catching tight end who could stretch the field, right, Yeah, 606 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: the best guy left. Yeah, he would be. Well, I 607 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: don't I think he's up there, you know, as far 608 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: as what the Cowboys like. I don't know if he's 609 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: if everybody else feels the same way, because there's some 610 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: other name Gaseki, but I think and maybe I'm not 611 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: even saying his name, right, I think the guy's right, Goddard. 612 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: I think it's what how he said it, which is right. 613 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: I was saying, go there. Uh yeah, I think I 614 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: think that would be it comes to a higher priority now. 615 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: You know, remember you remember talking to him at the 616 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, Nick, Yeah, and he was like, yeah, well 617 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 1: Jason Witten's on his way out, so I'll just come 618 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: in there. And he did say we were all like okay, Yeah, 619 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: he was he was joking around. Yeah, yeah, he would 620 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: be very ironic if we ended up that, right, you'll 621 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: find that sound. Yeah, I forgot about that, and we're like, 622 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: I like this guy. You know, he's got a little 623 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: got a little spunk to him. He was Dallas too. Yeah. 624 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, and what about Andrews? Mark Andrews. He 625 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: is a classic pass catching tight end, right. I don't 626 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: know if he does anything else like super well, but boy, 627 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: he let Swain do that. He was he was the 628 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 1: number one overall picks top guy at Oklahoma for sure. 629 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: Another guy I kind of liked just reading up on him, 630 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: watching a little bit of him is I and Thomas 631 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: from Indiana, just because he can do a lot of 632 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: different things. H back in line all that kind of 633 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: stuff and this system. I mean, Whitton tells us about 634 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: that all the time. I mean, you got to be 635 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: able to do a lot of things in this offense 636 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: if you're a tight end. So he's done a lot 637 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: of that, you know, and a lot of things that 638 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: they do in this offense. It's not necessarily that Witten 639 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: does those things. It's that it's that he can do them. 640 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like the offense is based off of what 641 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Witten has been able to do for so long, and 642 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: I think that you can probably branch out a little bit, 643 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, and and Witten he played with his strength. 644 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: He is a good blocker. I'm a good pass catcher 645 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: and great route runner um. But I think you would 646 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: kind of you need to go with what you what 647 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: you have, and if you have a player that you 648 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: could draft that's kind of a pass catching tight end, 649 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: then you can kind of do things a little bit differently. 650 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there there's some great teams out there that 651 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: are figuring out ways to get their tight ends involved 652 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: that can go down the field and make plays, and 653 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: they also could run the football still. So I think 654 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: there's just different ways to do or is what my 655 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: point is there. You don't have to find a wit Witt, 656 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: and you kind of fit the mold right for what 657 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: they wanted to do. To find the guy and play 658 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: to his strings. Yeah, and see if he can get 659 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: him fifteen years and never miss a game and then 660 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: be like an all world guy off the field as well. 661 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 1: Get that guy? Is he there? He in that book? 662 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: I think Bates. I think Bates and two tall strong 663 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: armed him. Oh you think so? Yeah? You know I'm 664 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: not breaking my record, you think. I mean, wow, Hey, 665 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 1: can I go back to hang on? If this goes down? 666 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: There was a subtitle up there that said pending talking 667 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: to Jerry. Yeah, if this happens and doesn't go talk 668 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: to Jerry. There you go. That was a twenty minute conversation. 669 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: If if this does become official, I'm curious of did 670 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: he decide. Look, I've got to make a decision. And 671 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: and hey, they still got time in the draft to 672 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: address this, you know, so I shouldn't put this off 673 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: any longer. I'm just I'm curious to know what the 674 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: timing is if it need. This goes down, Mick, maybe 675 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: maybe somebody made him an offer last night coming off 676 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: the stage last night, Yeah, hey, you never I mean 677 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: you never know. ESPN doesn't have a presence at at 678 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: and T stage. Was that his way of kind of 679 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: telling the fans too? He walks out there with two 680 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: retired players and no, there were two Man of the 681 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: Year players. Okay, that's I forgot about that. You're right. 682 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: They were BOO insurance, which did Yeah, it didn't. It 683 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: didn't know. Whatever previum they paid on it did, it 684 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: didn't work. What were you going to No. He mentioned 685 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't happy about vander Esh because Derwin James was 686 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: in reach. Now that probably would have cost you your 687 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: third uh to go to like we'll say, seventeen or 688 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: sixteen ahead of them. But I remember when as it 689 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: was going down, I mean San Diego, I think lost 690 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: Trey Boston and their safety. I don't think he's you 691 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: know that they resigned him, um and you know seat 692 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: else thinking about losing their safety. So I was like, 693 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta this is where it could go. 694 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and I breaking up the Witten story again. 695 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: Forty nine ers called and said, hey, we want this 696 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: spot number sixty nine overall and that and the Cowboys 697 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: were like, well, maybe who's trying to take like we 698 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: want Jason Witten? Like will so do? We thank you? 699 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: And you know, and that was the history and so 700 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys you know, might have looked into it and 701 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: they just didn't get high enough there. But but I 702 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: don't think they did. I think that they they they 703 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: valued the need and the player better for Vanderish. So 704 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: and that's what I was going to say about what 705 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: he was disappointed. And I said this earlier today. So 706 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys only went nine and seven. Did you 707 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: sit there and go, God, if we just had a 708 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: free safety, we would have gone eleven and five. I 709 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: just don't know that safeties, unless they're Darren Woodson, make 710 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: that big a difference. They help if you have a 711 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: good one, but to go to that trouble to get one, 712 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: I think the linebacker can have a bigger impact on 713 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: what takes place. You know, if you would have gone 714 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: eight and eight, they probably would have gotten Derwin Jameson 715 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: or you at least had to make that decision right 716 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: they don't, or you might have been able to go 717 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: up and get Vita Vaya, who they really wanted. Yeah, 718 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 1: he's the one guy that if he was there at nineteen, 719 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's probably they would have moved for him. 720 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: But interesting, Jerry did say something interesting in the walk 721 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: off last night that vander esh is the type of 722 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: guy and he kept going back to Rolando McLean I know, 723 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: and and Urlockers another parison that names come up twice, 724 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: not directly, but a big linebacker, and Jerry said that 725 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: he didn't mention Veya by name, but he said, when 726 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: you got a big linebacker who doesn't have to be 727 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: covered up as much in the middle. That helps you 728 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: avoid having to that big, sloppy nose tackle that's got 729 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: to be three hundred and sixty pounds to help you 730 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: in the run defense. So this guy can maybe help 731 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: you in a couple different ways because of how big 732 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: he is. He can run, he can cover, he can 733 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: do all that stuff. So or you could just be 734 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: like the two thousand Ravens and just have both Kosa 735 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: and ray Lewis. And I thought about the Bears first. Now, 736 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: the Bears I think had a I think Singletary was 737 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: a guy that you know, it was undersized, but they 738 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: had some beef up the front there. Now I think 739 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: when people see him, they're not going to think he's 740 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: that big, Like he's tall, yeah, but he's kind of slender. 741 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: I was sort of surprised that when I was isn't what, No, No, 742 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: he's got a huge, huge neck and which, by the way, 743 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: they checked out the neck and it checked out. Okay, 744 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: So all this stuff that came up about his neck 745 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: injury or whatever, I think it was tad exaggerated. But 746 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: when they introduced those guys at that play football clinic 747 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and it was like, well, which one is 748 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: the linebacker because I thought he was a tight end 749 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: that he's kind of built like a tight end, a 750 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: slender tight end, pass catching tight end, so he's got 751 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: room to put on some muscle. He's not a finished 752 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: product physically, I can tell you that right now. And 753 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: I think when people actually see him, they're gonna think, gosh, 754 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't look like Brian Erlacker. But if he can 755 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: move like er Lacker, then it's a different story, you know. 756 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: And you just said, Okay, how important is safety? Right? 757 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: The position that jumps out to me at least on 758 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: defense as linebacker, and what happens when Sean Lee's not 759 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: in the football game. He missed most of four games 760 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: last year. And it's a little bit different with him 761 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: because he's like your quarterback of your defense. But this 762 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: is in some move, in some ways, an insurance move. Yeah. 763 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Jalen Smith has overcome a major career 764 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: threatening injury. Sean Lee has missed time in his career. 765 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: Hitchens is gone. I mean, you've got to have you've 766 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: got to have heavy numbers at linebacker. Every year, there's 767 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: five linebackers on this team, not counting some practice squad guy. 768 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: Five linebackers that's it still or well not counting Van. Yeah, 769 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: so who who? So you got your three projected starters 770 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: heading into the draft, right, Sean, Jalen, Damien, Joe Thomas, 771 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: and there was another guy that they picked up as 772 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: a futures and then there's a practice squad guy that 773 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: didn't hasn't played in the league, so they don't have 774 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: any need linebackers. Yeah, and he sure needed something behind Jalen, 775 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: guy with like four names, he's still around. Mars Lillard. Yeah, 776 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: that was the other guy I was thinking of. Yeah, 777 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: March Willard Thomas and the three starters. There you go 778 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: has roster. Let's take our final break, come back wrap. 779 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: We're going to be able to have enough to talk about. Well, 780 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: we've got we've got enough to keep going and we 781 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: can we can take your phone calls as well. Eighty 782 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: eight five five two two nine seven is the number 783 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: we got draft. We've got potential breaking news involving a 784 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame tight end, but we'll get to all 785 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: that again next we come back. Cowboys fans know that 786 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: the second best of anything simply won't cut it, and 787 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: your skincare should be no different. 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This 823 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: is the Talking Cowboys break streaming live on Dallas Cowboys 824 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: dot com and the officials Dallas Cowboys out Well, you 825 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: knew if they were holding the NFL Draft North Texas 826 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: and AT and T Stadium you knew they would do 827 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: it up big, right big. First night, we got one 828 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: draft pick done, we got a couple more potentially tonight, 829 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: second and third round, depending on what the Cowboys do 830 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: with their picks. And we got some potential big breaking 831 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 1: news involving one of the greatest players in NFL history 832 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys history, Jason Witten reportedly may retire from football. Sounds 833 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: pretty strong, sounds like it is is um going to happen. 834 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: And the fact that that he kept getting asked about 835 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: it in the last two or three events that he 836 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: was he was at kind of it kind of makes 837 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: you wonder, you know, one of those where they're smoked, 838 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: there's fire type of things. I think there's a lot 839 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: of fire. Now. Yeah, it sounds like he is decided 840 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: to hang it up. And it's just interesting of all 841 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: the things that they're doing, you know, off the off 842 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: the field, and just just so many events he's still 843 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: a part of. But I guess that being said, Troy 844 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: was too and it and just drawbacks, so he's still 845 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: a Dallas type thing. He just I just didn't get 846 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: the sense this was happening well, and we'll find out 847 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: the timing. Like I said, I mean it could be 848 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: it could be a negotiation affects the timing, or it 849 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: could be, Hey, they've had a couple weeks of offseason 850 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: workouts and maybe he got in there and decided, look, 851 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just not feeling another year. You know. 852 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: Hold on, now, let's talk about this for a second 853 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: from this contract standpoint. Because he restructured his deal, right, 854 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: they we structured it this offseason to free up some 855 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: cap space. They did, they did. They cut it in half. 856 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: And the narrative with that story was, well, he's obviously 857 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: you're not going anywhere helping them out to go win games. 858 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: And they added some I don't I'm not saying they 859 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: added years to it, but they pushed they pushed some 860 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: things around. Now I don't know, you know, if he 861 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: if he goes to the retirement list, I mean that 862 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: all should hit hit right now, as long as they 863 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: didn't pay them money. Yeah, to cut his salary in half, 864 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: did they just take that the the they cut it 865 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 1: in half and put the other half in next year's 866 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: base salary? Maybe all right, but they could have done that, right. 867 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: But when you but now, when you move them to retirement, 868 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: it all hits years now. But there's no sense there 869 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 1: was never any signing bonus in this new contract, right, Okay, 870 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: there was no guaranteed money in this contract, in in 871 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: the one he's on now. Yeah, but but his extra 872 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: his extra years all all, I mean, everything's to come 873 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: to the front though, right, No, because it's only base 874 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: salary when he remember when he did the extension, it 875 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: was a four year okay, whatever, and there was no bonus. 876 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: So what they save then, I mean not did they 877 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: What did they do with the three and a half million? Yeah, 878 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: they added it to I thought they just added and 879 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: I have to look because unless they paid him up front, 880 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: but I don't think they did. Okay, excuse you know, 881 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: excuse us. What we're really did go out and if 882 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: they did, then it say it was three and a 883 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 1: half million that they they turned into roster bonus or 884 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: whatever restructure bonus, then it would have been spread over 885 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: three three years. Yeah, so three and a half million 886 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: divided by three million and ten or whatever. I'm just 887 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: gonna go out and say that there's more to it 888 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: than this. There's there's something else going on, and I 889 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know this. I'm not saying anything bad. 890 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: I just mean that there's just more to this story 891 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: than we don't know right now. I'm not saying there's 892 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,479 Speaker 1: an injury. I don't know this because he's never really 893 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: been hurt. But I'm there's just something. There's more to 894 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: it than a guy that's kind of gone around and 895 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: done so many things and talking about next year and 896 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: saying he's playing and getting his contract. You know, you 897 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: moved around so they can give him some help to 898 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: do some other things, and then to do it right 899 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: here on the second day of the draft. There's just 900 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: more to it, and I think we're gonna get to 901 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: the bottom of it, hopefully soon. If he's not a 902 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: cowboy next year. Who's the longest tenured guy on this 903 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the scope of this roster is 904 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: a pretty young one. It's been changing for two years. 905 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 1: I mean Orlando Scandricks, yeah, Pie aside from LP, I mean, 906 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: like Tyron Smith, Tyron Smith or Tyrone Crawford's in that 907 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: mix probably, I mean, you know it's Tyron Smith. Yeah, 908 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: I know. Nobody from two thousand and nine was here. 909 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: Why is that? Because it was the worst draft in 910 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: the history of football, I mean the worst draft. You're 911 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: saying it wasn't quite the Dirty dozen Williams pick. Yeah, 912 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't pick twelve picks. Nobody's in the 913 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: league much less on the Cowboys. Was wilbur that n No, No, 914 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: he was in the twenty twelve with Crawford and all 915 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: that Shaan Lee would be and yeah, can't you right? 916 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, LP's yet only the second player in the 917 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: history of the NFL history of the Cowboys to play 918 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: two hundred games. Whitten was obviously the first one. So 919 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: what if they told him they were going to draft 920 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,720 Speaker 1: a tight end and he said, I quit. I don't 921 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: see that. Why. I don't know, because because I just 922 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: draw it out ahead and draft him. He's not playing. 923 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones told us that that Whitton. Every time they've 924 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: taken one of these guys in the second round, he 925 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: just he'll come in his office as another wasted pick, 926 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: another one out the window. The other night, I was 927 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: watching I don't even know why NFL network was on, 928 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: and I was watching a red zone channel of like 929 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: Week five or something, and that you know, they just 930 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: bounce around and they show all these games and the 931 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys are playing the forty nine ers and they get 932 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: down to about the red zone. You guys probably remember 933 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 1: this play and dac throes a perfect pass to Witton 934 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: in the back corner of the end zone one hand 935 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: because his other hand is getting pulled away. He beats 936 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: this safety down the field, perfect pass, one hand catch, touchdown. 937 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: And I remember thinking this was like four nights ago. 938 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, until he stops doing that, then he 939 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: can just continue to play like he can still do 940 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: that and get open and make plays like that. There's 941 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: still role for you somehow, you know. I know he's 942 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: slowing down a little bit, but still able to make 943 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: plays like that. To me, still making a Pro Bowl. Yeah, 944 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: And to me, his biggest value Mick may disagree is 945 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: red zone. His ability to just kind of fine fine space. 946 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: You know it doesn't you don't have to rely on 947 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: turn around clap, Yeah, I mean I'm open it to me. 948 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,959 Speaker 1: The Dak touchdown and overtime a couple of years ago, 949 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just class and the guy fell down, 950 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: But I mean classic, we're not to rely on four 951 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: or five four or four speed to get down the field. 952 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: You know, think me pointing it out to Dak helped 953 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: him that there is that famous shown there. Don't forget that. 954 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 1: I was letting him know about Whitten, right, Dave didn't 955 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: look happy about that touchdown. Ah, well, let's let's grab 956 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: a phone call again. Can't who we got on the line, sir. 957 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: We're going overseas to France and our friend Philip. Wow. Hey, Philip, 958 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: was a pleasure to talk to you. I watched the 959 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: draft show the draft? What's the draft show? Uh, let's 960 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: mind and this is the best way to follow the draft. 961 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid playing Jeff Swain, who loves hooks like 962 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: a young goat Whitten sitting the age and or escaping 963 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: on a route. My question is what about trying to 964 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: get a stud guard like Amandez early in this again? 965 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 1: And would what would be the cost? Thankful ticking, Michael, 966 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: have a great date. Go Tigers, Good Cowboys, Go Tigers. 967 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: Oh there he's an LSU guy. He's jumped on the 968 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: LSU band. I thought he was talking about Missouri. Probably 969 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: not uh Troy, Yeah, it could be Memphis. So guard. 970 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 1: And I know you've said Mick not a huge priority 971 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: in the first couple rounds. I've said all along, the 972 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: strength of your team is your offensive line. Make sure 973 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: it's still your strength. I do think. I do think 974 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins to guard is a real thing. Potentially. I 975 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,280 Speaker 1: would not be surprised at all if he moves inside, 976 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: because they like Cameron Fleming and he is primarily a 977 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: tackle And if you do that, then it's not a 978 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: huge need at least for twenty eight. Then who's your 979 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 1: swing tackle when Tyron Smith gets hurt? Um, Lyle Collins 980 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: is moving back? Oh, you're gonna move. And then who's 981 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: playing guard? Marcus Martin who you saw one year deal 982 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: as well, Marcus Martin there in the first place. Well, 983 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,919 Speaker 1: let him win the job. Well, let him compete again 984 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: draft And that's and that's why they're not committing to anything, 985 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: is that they want to see how this pans out. Yeah. Um, 986 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: but we'll see. We'll see on that one. Sorry, I 987 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,959 Speaker 1: keep going back to this because it's just all fame 988 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, let's go back to um. Let me 989 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: ask you this. So let's say they know this last night. 990 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: Take you take Hurst at nineteen. No, somebody mocked Hayden 991 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: Hurst to the Cowboys. Daniel Jeremiah. Daniel Jeremiah did he 992 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: know that? He know not? Last night? It was a 993 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: wasn't it a while? Was it? Okay, it wasn't like 994 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: his latest one. Does he know that the guy has 995 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: a thickening heart condition that could end his career? Hayden Hurst, Yes, 996 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: he got more eas Hurst. This guy's got the wrong Hurst. Yeah, 997 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: you know. Hurst is the one who had the yips 998 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: in baseball. Oh he did. He twitched to football. But 999 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: I had the right guy, right, No, Maurice rehearses a 1000 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: d from Michigan. Hard thing. Yes, same last name. Okay, 1001 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: I mean Ken Ken has produced Draft Show if you want. Um, No, 1002 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: Hayden her South Carolina, that's the guy I'm talking about here. 1003 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: He went, I think a few picks later. Um, I 1004 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: don't even know where he went. We started, we started, 1005 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: We went all over the place doing doing stuff. Um. 1006 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: But my point is, do you take the best tight 1007 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: end in the draft. If you if you think that 1008 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: you're all world tight end's gonna retire. That's why I 1009 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: don't get this. Jason, Jason Witten has been just the 1010 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: ultimate Dallas cowboy. And I don't know. I didn't cover 1011 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: Bob Lily Mickey, I'm just kidding. Um, I didn't cover 1012 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: Bob Lily. Mister cowboy. Jason Witten has got to be 1013 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: everything that Bob Lily was for them back then, for 1014 00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Now, it just doesn't make sense to do this, 1015 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: to make this announcement now unless there's something else going on. 1016 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: That's why I'm wondering. And I don't know this, and 1017 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: we don't know that it's officially going to happen yet. 1018 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, do you wake up it one 1019 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: day and say, look, I owe it to him to 1020 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 1: tell him now, I don't. I don't think I can 1021 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 1: do this another year. Maybe maybe that's the case. We'll 1022 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: find out, right if you get made an offer you 1023 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: can't refuse. Could be that, you know, and that guy 1024 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: was taking at twenty five, they wouldn't have taken a 1025 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,959 Speaker 1: tight end in the first round. Well, it still gives 1026 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: them time to address her. I mean, like knowing that 1027 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 1: you're that your starter that you've you've had for fifteen 1028 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: years exactly has been is no longer there. I mean, 1029 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to fill a hole, You're trying to feel 1030 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: a void there. And even though I would even with that, 1031 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: I would still put linebacker at the top. And then 1032 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm not very far behind if there's no Jason. I'm 1033 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 1: not arguing with you, because I think in this particular case, 1034 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,919 Speaker 1: based off the fact that Hurst is a guy that's 1035 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: just kind of moved up the board quickly. But he 1036 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: wasn't this this all world like no brainer, like you 1037 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: gotta get this guy. You know. I think if in 1038 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 1: years past there has been those stud tight ends and 1039 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: that might that might have changed things a little bit. 1040 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: But wow, it's been explosive fifty minutes here a final 1041 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: thoughts before we get out Cowboys covering the Cowboys like 1042 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: Texas weather, right, I don't like it. Just wait an 1043 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: hour or something will happen, guys, I mean, and I'm 1044 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm a little embarrassed. I mean, like I I didn't 1045 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 1: have this one. I didn't I didn't know this was coming. 1046 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't sit here and say, you know what, i'd 1047 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 1: heard that this really kind of took me by surprise. 1048 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: So I maybe I had should have had my eyes 1049 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: open a little bit more, But you know, I don't 1050 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: think anybody of us did. Yeah. And uh, and again 1051 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 1: I think, like you said, I think it goes to 1052 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 1: the timing. You know, you get into the draft, you think, okay, 1053 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: he's yeah, you got him for another year and address 1054 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: needs elsewhere. And it didn't look like they brought a 1055 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: tight end in for that's and that was my question. Yeah, 1056 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: so that to me, that lends yourself to think, all right, 1057 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't something they were preparing for, at least not 1058 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 1: the short term. So yeah, and you know, Stephen answered 1059 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: the question on Tuesday, right, he goes if he said something, 1060 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: if Jason Witt wants to play, I'm not betting against him. No, 1061 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: And he told us that in Orlando at the end 1062 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: of the month. You were with me there. He said, No, 1063 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: they have not had any indication that he wouldn't be 1064 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen. Jason Garrett said the same thing. 1065 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: So how much of this has to do with ESPN 1066 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: maybe just saying we want you now, we're looking to 1067 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: fill this void. If it's going to be filled this 1068 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: year for the next five years, now's your chance. Kind 1069 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: of a thing it could be. I just I wouldn't 1070 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: think they could big boy him like that. I mean, 1071 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: you know you're playing, you're a football player, and you 1072 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: decide when you I mean, I don't think it's going 1073 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: Would it go away with that opportunity to go away 1074 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: next year? Well, unless Monday nine kind of in the 1075 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: back of his mind. This has kind of been there, 1076 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 1: lingering and then they just put you over the top 1077 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: by saying, oh, well about pay you what you're making 1078 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: to play football. Maybe he talked a little with I 1079 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: hate to say this, but with Tony about that transition. 1080 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 1: It's the exact same thing, you know. Yeah, moving on 1081 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: to the broadcast booth in a school maner, Tony had 1082 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,919 Speaker 1: years left. You're right, I mean Witten's got some years left. 1083 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: He could still play, still play at a high level. 1084 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean made the Pro Bowls last year. It's not 1085 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: like he you know, he's embarrassing himself. Yeah, because the 1086 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: other three guys that played fifteen years, they were done. 1087 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: They were done. Yeah, they were definitely Bill Bates, Ed 1088 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: Jones and Mark two and A and now well, reports 1089 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,919 Speaker 1: are it is pending a final discussion with Jerry Jones, 1090 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: So we'll see what comes out of it. That's the 1091 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: big potential breaking news coming out of Day two of 1092 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. So, I mean, we have another press 1093 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: conference today, can't I was going to ask you on 1094 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: that one as well. So Draft show at one is 1095 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: that still going? We're going at twelve thirty to one 1096 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: fifteen and then making way for vander Esch to come 1097 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: in here and do his conference, but any other news, 1098 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: I think the vander esh press conference is gonna be like, hey, 1099 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: nice to have you here. Um, Jerry, can you talk 1100 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: about Jason right right? He's gonna it's that's gonna be 1101 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: a strange that's gonna be a strange one. They're gonna 1102 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 1: have to address this. Stay tuned, guys, stay tuned to 1103 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: the website, stay tuned to the mobile app, and and 1104 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: and everything. We're gonna we'll do the best we can 1105 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: to cover this, and of course the draft and everything 1106 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: that's happening with the Cowboys or any other bombs that 1107 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: might be dropped on us. Yes, thank you for joining us, 1108 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: for Nick, for Mick, for Kick Garrison. This has been 1109 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: the Talking Cowboys Break. 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