WEBVTT - EAGLE WITT - Dollar Slices

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Colleen Wit, and today we are outside the typical l

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast studio and into New York City, where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>originally from, and we are not cooking. We're eating out

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<v Speaker 1>today and we have a special guest. And the special

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<v Speaker 1>guest is my baby Brother also known as My Little Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>stand up comic. You may have seen him on Comedy Central, HBO.

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<v Speaker 1>He sells out a lot of secret shows all over

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<v Speaker 1>New York City. Can catch him at the seller I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you literally can stalk his Instagram and try to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to catch him. But I promise you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be an amazing night. So, Eagle Wits, what will you

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<v Speaker 1>have us eating today? Dollar slices? Dollars slices, so dollar

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<v Speaker 1>pizza slices? Okay, okay, So is this something you ate

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<v Speaker 1>on the regular or was it like you were cooking

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<v Speaker 1>up something else? And this is what I was eating

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<v Speaker 1>before stand up paid like doing the open mics and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you get a dollar slice. My boy shout

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<v Speaker 1>out with sama. He would He actually taught me. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, if you put hot sauce on the slice,

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<v Speaker 1>like drizzle hot sauce on it. It's almost like the

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<v Speaker 1>pepperoni's there, like you could taste the pepperoni. And we

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<v Speaker 1>used to do that every day. We ask other comics

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<v Speaker 1>to have more money than us for a dollar just

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<v Speaker 1>to go get a dollar slice. And now have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever like now that you I would say, you're I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say you've arrived in your career. You're definitely

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<v Speaker 1>you're definitely doing well. Would you do you ever randomly

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<v Speaker 1>like get starving, hungry and say let me go get

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<v Speaker 1>a dollar slice? Or you know that's how much you

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<v Speaker 1>hate it? Yeah, it's over, it's over. Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So on a one to ten, if you were comparing

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<v Speaker 1>to slices, you have the dollar slice versus your average slice,

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<v Speaker 1>Like where does this dollar slice range? You could get

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<v Speaker 1>a really good dollar slice that's like a six out

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<v Speaker 1>of a ten, you know, Oh you mean like a

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<v Speaker 1>random like just one day it comes up and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a decent like some of them, some of them dollars

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<v Speaker 1>places to be all right, you know for real, but

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't never done. I mean, it's not messing with

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<v Speaker 1>a real slice. Okay, okay, yeah, okay, So what did

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<v Speaker 1>you cook in the kitchen when you were struggling growth

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<v Speaker 1>ship like way worse than dollars. Like what I would

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<v Speaker 1>get this is I had a three dollar meal I

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<v Speaker 1>would do every night when I get home late from

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<v Speaker 1>open mics, I would get ramen. I would get like

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<v Speaker 1>a can of peas or corn and a cana tuna,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would because you got the protein, you got

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<v Speaker 1>your veggie, and you got your start, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And I put that ship together and mix

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<v Speaker 1>it up, you know, drain it a little bit, put

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<v Speaker 1>it even on a pan a little bit. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>did you add butter to your like sometimes? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>used to try to make it moves with a little butter.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's just go ahead and try these dollar slices

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<v Speaker 1>we had to improvise today because we had to do

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<v Speaker 1>the uber eats or however. So we're just gonna eat

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<v Speaker 1>a slice of pizza just to kind of try to

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<v Speaker 1>get into what you were going through while you were

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<v Speaker 1>working your way to the top. So we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a bite, all right, all right, mm hmm, Chase the

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<v Speaker 1>poverty saying, well, it's good, the pizza's colt. So I

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine it was like terrible, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just bad. It was bad. I remember like maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>year unto your stand up, coming to New York and

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<v Speaker 1>you had you were legit like borrowing a dollar from

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<v Speaker 1>me to buy a slice because it's real. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was real. So there's one dollar slice place where the

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<v Speaker 1>dude you talked to him long enough, he just forget

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<v Speaker 1>that you didn't pay, and he just let you walk out.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and my boy used to go there all the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you guys just chatter him up, just talk to

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<v Speaker 1>this naked forever. Let there be a cute girl in there.

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<v Speaker 1>He really forget Okay, okay, So tell us what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on at that time when you were doing these dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>like well, you know, it was like no, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>open micing it. You know, you don't get paid to

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<v Speaker 1>do open mics. Sometimes you pay to do open mics. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um doing like no exaggeration, like five to thirteen open

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<v Speaker 1>mics a day. I leave early in the afternoon, like

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<v Speaker 1>two in the afternoon and come home too in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Just did that for like probably like a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, two years, and no part of you was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe this isn't for me, or did

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<v Speaker 1>you get frustrated. Did you ever have like a day

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<v Speaker 1>job or anything? Kind of but not really. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>keep a day job because it was like to do

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<v Speaker 1>that much stand up you had to kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>commit to it and be broke. Is like it is

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to get really good. I would like

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<v Speaker 1>go in and out of day jobs kind of. Remember, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I did Postmates and oh you did Postmates Bro's Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. I don't want to slander a brand on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Man, they it's like they you make just

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<v Speaker 1>enough money to get hungry from walking around to buy food,

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<v Speaker 1>and then your back broke again. And that's just how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. It's like you deliver food that also makes

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<v Speaker 1>you hungry because you're like smelling people's food and ship

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<v Speaker 1>and then you like, well, I made five dollars off

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<v Speaker 1>that I gotta get something to eat. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>the five dollars gone and you're like, all right, well

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just deliver some more food. And then you deliver

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<v Speaker 1>that food, you like, I'm hungry again, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a weird fucking thing you're in. You just

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<v Speaker 1>make no profit, Like it's terrible. What other jobs did

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't you all like I think your house that

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Didn't you do some of those apps? I

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<v Speaker 1>would house it, I uh house that. I would I

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<v Speaker 1>use this app what was it called task Rabbit, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was terrible at making furniture. I would do like

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<v Speaker 1>the Ikea Furniture Ship, but I was getting so many

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<v Speaker 1>bad reviews. I made a crib and the baby fell

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like all funked up and uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like I was like, all right, well, I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do like pet sitting in house sitting because then

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<v Speaker 1>I get to stay in a nice crib and I

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<v Speaker 1>get to just chill and I could just charge a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was doing it for a very short amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time because I was sucking girls in the cribs

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody had like a camera something. Somebody found out

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<v Speaker 1>I sucked in their crib and it was over. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it was like bad reviews all of the ship, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was kicked off task rapping task grap It was

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<v Speaker 1>making money too, I was making money off task grabbing. Damn. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So was there ever a point in your career where

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<v Speaker 1>the struggle hit where you had to like possibly reevaluate

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<v Speaker 1>or did you have pressure coming in where people were like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you should just quit and get a day job.

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<v Speaker 1>The funny thing is, like I think with stand up

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<v Speaker 1>is funny because like people don't care about stand ups

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<v Speaker 1>enough to tell them to quit. They just look at

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<v Speaker 1>you like you're stupid for even trying. It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of them telling you that quit doesn't even come

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<v Speaker 1>into their head. They're just like, really, you do stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just walk out like that. There's no like

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<v Speaker 1>second sentence. I interviewed a couple of comics like Lunell Earthquake,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the things that they have pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>which I never even thought about. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone ever thinks about this when it comes to comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're listening to like your favorite Beyonce or

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z record, you go to their concert, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the same song you know that you've literally

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<v Speaker 1>played in your your CD or your you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>AirPods a million times. But with comedy, you never want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a comedy club and hear the same joke.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started to think, I think, out of all

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<v Speaker 1>the jobs in the entertainment business, yours job has to

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<v Speaker 1>be the most stressful because you're dealing with council culture

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<v Speaker 1>and you're also dealing with like constantly like re re

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<v Speaker 1>re coming up with new materials, So like how do

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<v Speaker 1>you find that balance? Like how are you able to

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<v Speaker 1>like are you sitting at home? Like I gotta right today,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I want to know like a day in the life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very lucky to be like just a like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a prolific creator. As my management say, um, I come

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<v Speaker 1>out my turnover rates really high, but I feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for niggas whose turnover rates aren't high. Like my turn

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<v Speaker 1>of rate is very, very high. What do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>by turnover rate? Like how quickly I could come up

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<v Speaker 1>with new material? Like it's very fast. Like if I

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<v Speaker 1>if I do a set on Comedy Central, I could

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<v Speaker 1>burn that material. I don't like to, but I could

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<v Speaker 1>burn that material and come up with a new set

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fast. Now, like every year, at this rate, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably thirty new minutes a year, which is pretty fast

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<v Speaker 1>from my from my point, But at some point when

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<v Speaker 1>you're like twenty years and you're like Kevin hart bur

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<v Speaker 1>you know these niggas, it's like you should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with like an hour a year, which

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<v Speaker 1>is nuts. Nuts, but I'm not there yet. Now, when

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<v Speaker 1>you release a joke online and it trends, that's technically

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<v Speaker 1>considered you're retiring a joke. You're going retiring of a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very on defense about that. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean spill it? If I mean it's not

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<v Speaker 1>on contract, I don't have to retire it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>one day if a special comes out and there's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's online where I feel like, oh this would make

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<v Speaker 1>history and especial, I might just delete off the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>and put it in the special because it's my content.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the one you shared it. I own it still, Okay. So,

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<v Speaker 1>because one of the comics that I had interviewed in

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<v Speaker 1>the past has said, like, you know, once you release

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, you really shouldn't say it again on stage, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel about that? I disagree. I highly disagree,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like who's seeing it, even if it goes viral,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's like three million views, which like I

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<v Speaker 1>have stand up jokes that have like three million views,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that like when you do a show,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever is there has seen the joke. Your fans have,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, But to me, the concept of putting out

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<v Speaker 1>a special or something like that is to gain new fans.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, your new fans aren't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>people that have seen that joke. When you do a

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<v Speaker 1>random show at the comedy club, guarantee you the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>has not seen that joke. It's just like viral is

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<v Speaker 1>not that big now. I would consider so people. Different

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<v Speaker 1>people have reached out to me about you and said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they would compare you to a Chappelle And they say

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<v Speaker 1>that bainly because you strategy. You you straddle the almost

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<v Speaker 1>cancel culture. Like you say the ship that is like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just funny, but like you know, like do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever get nervous when you're writing content where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit scary in the cancel culture arrange? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever faired cancel culture? No? Not not no, not

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<v Speaker 1>material what So there's never been a point where you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, I like this joke, but I don't know. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I haven't pressured into dropping jokes, which very like

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<v Speaker 1>is inner turmoil all the time for me. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>give us like an example, I have a joke about

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<v Speaker 1>Asian people that I got pressured into dropping once the

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<v Speaker 1>Asian hate things started happening, and I was really annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>because you're I find it's like the people that get

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<v Speaker 1>offended at the jokes aren't the people the joke is about.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be like you write a joke about Indian people

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<v Speaker 1>and a whole bunch of white people get mad. You'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, nigg this is even about you and Indian

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<v Speaker 1>people smacking their knees. This is so funny. We do

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<v Speaker 1>like curry, you know what I mean. Like and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>but the white people be like this is not age,

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<v Speaker 1>or like black people be like upset for Spanish people,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's never the people the joke is about. It

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of people that feel bad for the

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<v Speaker 1>people got it. It's like it's just annoying. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>had people tell me you dropped the Asian joke, but

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<v Speaker 1>when I would do it after the shows, Asian people

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<v Speaker 1>be taking pictures with me. They'd be like, man, the

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<v Speaker 1>joke was so great. Finally, some are you talking about us,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is what you talked about. That makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>because if black people I'm just speaking from black perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>if we hear a joke that's clown of black people,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna laugh, So I'm gonna throw a wild card

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<v Speaker 1>in here. Um, well, I got a couple more. I

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<v Speaker 1>got some questions before I thought the wild card just

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<v Speaker 1>remind me to to have a wild card in here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably not gonna want to answer, but um, has

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<v Speaker 1>there ever been like another comedian that gave you some

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<v Speaker 1>advice that like was pivotal? I know you personally told

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<v Speaker 1>me stuff about Bill Burr is my favorite comic, like

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite comps, or gave me great advice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can you share some of that advice? I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to tape something for Comedy Central. It's like my first

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<v Speaker 1>like straight up stand up set didn't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the TV shows like straight up they were I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>technically it's a show, but it's like they were just

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<v Speaker 1>doing stand upon it And I was super excited, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was like nervous about what material to choose. Is

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<v Speaker 1>like fresh out of the pandemic. Pandemic is still going on,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was rusty, and uh I asked him. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, there's certain bits I want to like

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<v Speaker 1>say for a special one day, And he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you saving for? Like like your he just

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<v Speaker 1>see me do stand up. He's like, you're funny. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like believing your talent. He's like believing your talent. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe in your talent, that means do your

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<v Speaker 1>best material because you could die tomorrow and this will

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<v Speaker 1>be your legacy and then come up with new material

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<v Speaker 1>and it should be better than the previous material because

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<v Speaker 1>it's new. So like, don't ever hoard material for a

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<v Speaker 1>rainy day because that ra any day may never might

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<v Speaker 1>never come. And he's like, that's all ego telling you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have a special one day. I'm gonna have this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you don't know that you have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>right now, put out your best ship and then move forward. Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, if you if every chance, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>every chance you get to be on TV or do

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<v Speaker 1>stand up in front of a mass audience, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to get fans, to get industreated, like you to

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<v Speaker 1>get everything to work in your favorite career. Wise, so

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<v Speaker 1>do your best ship, Like don't hold back. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really good advice because I was about to hold back.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anybody else that gave you something that was

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<v Speaker 1>like stuck out? There's so many I had a comics,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. Derek Gaines, he told me never played to

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the room. That was big early in

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<v Speaker 1>my career. That means don't play to the comics. So

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<v Speaker 1>some comedians do stand up the back of the room.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of the back of the room is like

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<v Speaker 1>comedians will hang out in the back of the room.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't say they hang in the back room because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no seeds for comedians. And some comedians will very

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<v Speaker 1>much try to make the comedians in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the room laugh and it's like because it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost high school. It's like very like I'm the I'm

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<v Speaker 1>funny you guys, right, But the crowd would be like

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<v Speaker 1>because crowds and comics don't laugh at this aime ship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So like that was very good advice. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>comics will never pay your bills, like these niggs to

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<v Speaker 1>dap you up after the show. They're not gonna pay

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<v Speaker 1>your bills. The people in the crowd are gonna pay

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<v Speaker 1>your bills one day. Now, what's like the worst situation

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<v Speaker 1>you had when it came to hey, Because I'd imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that the more successful you get, there's gotta be little

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<v Speaker 1>issues of hate or something that creeps in, right, I mean,

0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.520
<v Speaker 1>comics talk shit, but comics are always gonna talk shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't really face any crazy Hey, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what when I did that, Comedy Central said

0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.320
<v Speaker 1>that burging me advice one. I did a joke about

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<v Speaker 1>white women getting shot by the cops, and two days

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<v Speaker 1>later after it got released, the insurrection happened and the

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<v Speaker 1>white lady got shot by like like a security guard

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<v Speaker 1>or something. He wasn't even like a cop, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was like a security guard for like the capital or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And man, they was on the internet acting like I

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<v Speaker 1>was psychic or Illuminati, like they it's so dumb, like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is so conspiracy theorists about anyone in show business,

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<v Speaker 1>like so like she got shot and they was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that comedian just talked about it, and and

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<v Speaker 1>then it happened real mysterious, like real type type of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, niggad, I'm not like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, like it's just a joke. So, speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>like how people respond to certain things, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, Um, I don't even know if I even

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<v Speaker 1>asked you about your view on the whole. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to bring it up. I really am. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to retire just for the sake of everyone's health,

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<v Speaker 1>mental health in this. But it came to the Will

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<v Speaker 1>Smith Chris Rock slap fuck Will Smith firmly, I will

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<v Speaker 1>say that on the podcast Fuck Will Smith. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care fuck Will Smith. Why Uh, that's he knows.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows at this point he was wrong. If I

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<v Speaker 1>say funk Will Smith. And I'm a comic, he if

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<v Speaker 1>he was to ever see this, he wouldn't be shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had other people say fucking I'm sure since but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, um, it's terrible for stand up Like you

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<v Speaker 1>are sending a precedent where it's like, if you get

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<v Speaker 1>offended up something that comedian says, you can literally physically

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<v Speaker 1>attack them. That's crazy. And not only is it sending

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<v Speaker 1>the president, but it's like the level of precedent is

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<v Speaker 1>like you smacked our king, Like there's nobody bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>Chris rock Like Chris Rock. You are smacking stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>You are saying like if Chris Rocking gets smacked, any

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<v Speaker 1>of these niggs can get smacked because he's the he's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest and the best, he's the most legendary, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, if you smack him, it's open season for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so I understood, although he's working, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he smacked him while he's working, Like I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like his job is to do what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely it was so funny because I actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>watch I think it was a m it was the Oscars.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oscars. I'm not one of those people that watch

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<v Speaker 1>the Oscars. You know. My husband is like an actor,

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<v Speaker 1>actor slash comedian, so he lives for that stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>the one time I'm watching it, I see the slap

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, is this is what I've been missing?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, oh my god, I thought it was stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like immediately went to my phone because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like YouTube will have clips in seconds. I'm like refreshing,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's that real? And I was like, oh ship,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to watch this show more. Like I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know, but you know, of course I understood the perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hit a comment, you know, there's multiple reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the softer side of me was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Smith's been in the game a long time and

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much pressure, and especially like it's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>when you're like Cat Williams. Cat Williams has his bad boy,

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<v Speaker 1>So when Cat Williams gets in trouble and goes to jail,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we're like, oh, it's Cat Williams, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But Will Smith has this like squeaky clean personality. And

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like, you know, I don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know us as women, we put a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on our guys, like like, you know you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a great relationship when you can yell at your guy

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<v Speaker 1>and he just like shrugs his shoulders like whatever, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's crazy today it's Tuesday, like for real.

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<v Speaker 1>But you never know because sometimes women we put our

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<v Speaker 1>men under pressure. So I don't know, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what was going on in their relationship for him

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<v Speaker 1>to like just snap. But I definitely think that that

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry, so much pressure that it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>think him saying I'm sorry for me was enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be like that's fine. We're human, Like I've snapped on

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<v Speaker 1>people that I Here's my issue with the apology, right

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<v Speaker 1>is it came months later and that night he apologized

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<v Speaker 1>to the whole academy and all the actors. But he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't apologize to Chris Rock. It's like, literally, the night

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<v Speaker 1>you smacked that nigger, you had a chance to apologize

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<v Speaker 1>to him, and you avoided apologizing to him. You apologize

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody else in the room, you didn't apologize to

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<v Speaker 1>the person you smacked. To me, if you wait months

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<v Speaker 1>and then apologize, it's like, okay, like I hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean good, it's not a bad thing. Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>I know if I piss you off, just apologize within

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<v Speaker 1>a certain time frame. I mean, he literally smacked this

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<v Speaker 1>dude on National TV. Apologize that night. If you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>apologize to anyone, Yeah, I feel like every comic is

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<v Speaker 1>going to agree with you, because most most comics, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised. But most comics, well there's some that are

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<v Speaker 1>like comics that are like, well, you know, will you

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<v Speaker 1>know his wife been like shut up, man, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you gotta think, Will Smith contributed a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>happiness to a lot of kids. I love Will Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my favorite TV show ever. Yeah yeah, but now

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<v Speaker 1>used to be my favorite actor. To that smack, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you'll forgive him. I think so if he went

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<v Speaker 1>do you think he can even walk into a comedy

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<v Speaker 1>club right now. Probably not. I mean, he could walk

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<v Speaker 1>into anywhere a celebrity. I'm saying, though, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he would get like booze or like some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shade from comics. I'll tell you what. I've seen rock

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<v Speaker 1>walk into a comedy club since, and I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>innovation like the ovation they gave Rock Terrorist came to

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes. I've never been so moved by innovation. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even imagine what he was feeling. Yeah, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think fans of comedy very much are like, we love you, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry that happened, you know. It's also just like a

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<v Speaker 1>bully move, like look at Chris Rocket, look at Will Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think Will would. I know that we've

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<v Speaker 1>all heard this, but like, I don't think we would

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<v Speaker 1>have done that to fucking like insert if Bernie Mack

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<v Speaker 1>was still alive or you know what I'm saying. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he very much like picked who to do it too,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like that to me, rubs me the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing. It seemed very impulsive, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was like one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where he was like I'm gonna get Chris. How implosive

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<v Speaker 1>was it? He laughed at the joke first, like he

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<v Speaker 1>laughed at the joke, and then he looked at Jada

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, that's what I think women put

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.840
<v Speaker 1>men like you just never know what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>someone's relationship. I think that, Like I'm not saying she

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<v Speaker 1>used to blame, but you never know, like what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on that contributing Maybe he was clowning at home

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. Stuff took the time, but you

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<v Speaker 1>want this man. Is The sad thing about it is

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<v Speaker 1>it's truly just the disrespect of the art form because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, is the same person who months prior

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<v Speaker 1>to this happening had a whole series about how you

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn how to do stand up and he

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<v Speaker 1>invited all these comedians on and help him. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was getting into the stand up art form and he

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<v Speaker 1>loves it. And I don't want to do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to do it as a hobby. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to experience it. It's like you love

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<v Speaker 1>stand up, but you don't love it enough to respect

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<v Speaker 1>it as like a respect people like craft and work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like you wouldn't smack anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else were they working like you have to. First of all,

0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>he's the best worker that we have. Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the most professional stand up comedian is Chris Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he hit Will back. No, he handled it well.

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<v Speaker 1>But speaking of I don't want to get spent too

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<v Speaker 1>much time on Will Smith, you know, just a little

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 1>smidget because I want to get more out of you. So,

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of you guys don't know is that

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<v Speaker 1>Eagle and I have a definitely age difference. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say what it is, and so we grew

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<v Speaker 1>up a little differently. And so I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of your backstory because I missed the

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<v Speaker 1>chapter of where the inspiration came for you to pursue comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also want to know a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>what your childhood was like, Um, everyone told me to

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<v Speaker 1>do stand up? How do you want to do this? Ship? Truly,

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>when you say everybody like, who friends mom, I could

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<v Speaker 1>say mom, because we got the same mom. You're the

0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>same parents. But yeah, I left home at six. You

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<v Speaker 1>know there's a there's an age difference, But like WHOA

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<v Speaker 1>what environment did you grow up in? I'd say um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Mom was like, uh, it was just me

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<v Speaker 1>and mom. It's just me and mom. Mom was going

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<v Speaker 1>through a lot of mental stuff and Mom would cry

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, like every day, and I'd come home from

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<v Speaker 1>school and just tell her like funny stories literally from

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<v Speaker 1>like elementary school, and she was just crack up, start laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>And we watched Comic View all the time, We watched friends,

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 1>we watched anything that was funny kind of get through

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the pain. And she would always be like, you funnier

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>than everybody on TV, Like you cracking me up with

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<v Speaker 1>your little school stories. She's like, you could do that,

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you could do We watched Comic View, which isn't you know,

0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>but whatever, it's not the best, but we watched Comic

0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>You She'd be like, you could do that, you could

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<v Speaker 1>do better than them. But I was like a little kid,

0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, this is stupid, Like she's crazy, she

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what she's talking about. But then in school,

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<v Speaker 1>like I started having friends. I would hang out with colleague.

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<v Speaker 1>I always give him credit first friend that He was like,

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.560
<v Speaker 1>nig you're stand into comedian. You just don't know, Yeah,

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you're funnier than everybody. And that was like young that

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<v Speaker 1>was like third, like real young, and uh it started

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>spiraling where other friends with kind of hair colleagues say,

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.040
<v Speaker 1>or they start feeling the same way, you know, you

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>should do stand up, you should do stand up. And

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I always be like, no, no, no no, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>clown because I didn't respect it. That's an interesting thing

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.400
<v Speaker 1>about the art form is it is very not respected

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.439
<v Speaker 1>because people just don't know what goes into it. And

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I originally didn't respect it. I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a clown. That was my response. But then I was like,

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like twenty one and like what am I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? And it could be homeless, like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything to do with my life. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>community college. Like I was like, you go to college

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and you're sitting Okay, so you're sitting there in class

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're still debating like the hallway Holly that girls.

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I never went to class, So then where does this

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 1>epiphany like screw it, I'm gonna try it. Uh. I

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.239
<v Speaker 1>was well, when I got out of high school, I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking like something comedy related, but I was really

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<v Speaker 1>scared to get on stage. So I was like making

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>like YouTube videos and like stupid ship like that, but

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really getting in the track. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>scared to get on stage, and uh, Dad took me.

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>He was like, well, let's go to let's see what

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 1>type of stage stuff you might want to do. So

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<v Speaker 1>he took me to the U c B at the

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>time that when it was open is Improv place and

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I watched improv is like a Saturday night and I

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, not this, Like I don't want to be

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>on the team with a whole bunch of people all happy,

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>go lucky improv and stuff. Uh. Then he took me

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to the Comic Strip and it was late night. My

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>boy to this day, Jordan Rock Chris is a little brother.

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Ironically in this conversation, he was on stage. He's around

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>my age, and I remember watching him and being like, oh,

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 1>he's funny and he's close to my age. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>more like maybe this is something. And it got his

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<v Speaker 1>info and I started hitting him up every day like, bro,

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm scared to get on stage. What do you think?

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, let's just try and error, Like you

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>go up, you try stuff, it doesn't work, fix it,

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>do it again. And I understand it for months and

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<v Speaker 1>then one day I kind of cracked and just tried it.

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I hated it quit for three weeks. You convinced me

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to get back. I was gonna say, I remember getting

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>a phone call from you saying like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>try it, and and you you went up one time.

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I think you said no, I'm good, and I was like,

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I think my advice was shitty advice kind of. I

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, just try it three times. You could like

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>drink and get how you can just figure out how

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it is and just try at least three times before

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you quit. And then like you did stand up like

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>one more time and you were like, yeah, I'm good.

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.439
<v Speaker 1>You never did drugs to do it either. All it

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>took was one great response from the crowd. I remember

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the joke. What was the joke? It was, I just

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 1>turned twenty one. I don't drink, so I google what

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you can do at your age, and you can adopt kids.

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:36.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna adopt the seventeen year old and boss

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 1>them around. And it was like like bit about how

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I basically adopted Nigga who's basically my age, and like yeah,

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>like a huge response. People clapped and ship and I

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>was like this is like I want to do stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is great. So when you started doing stand up,

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of girls enter the scene like, oh

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>my god, Like because I've seen I've gone out with you.

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I almost walked into rooms with disclaimers like I'm his sister.

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Definitely don't want him. You can have him type attitude,

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>like do you think that being a comic, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like girl fans or with every comic or

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>just just select for you. I'll say this, I got

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>pussy before stand up, Like there's a lot of comedians

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 1>who definitely like lean on. There's a lot of people

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>in show business in general. I feel who lean on

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>like I'm this person and girls like that, and now

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I lean on that to get girls. To me, that's

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>just toxic and very tricky borders. I don't do that.

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Like I was getting girls before stand up, get girls

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>after stand up during stand up, like it's not about

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>stand up. Stand up does help, yeah, yeah, but you

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 1>know I was chilling before. So I don't know where

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>we are time wise, but um, but I do want

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>to know is there any interactions would say someone that

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you looked up to that was like oh bad, Yeah,

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Like was there a celebrity and you can name drop.

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing that. That's okay. Well, can you just

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:25.239
<v Speaker 1>tell trying to rule my career every celebrity i'm has

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>been wonderful. Well, celebrities aren't like someone because they're not

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like agents managers. But I guess they can still hate

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>on you a little bit, like what if they want

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you to go on road or something. Now that comedians

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>are the most helpful people in my career, everything I can,

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 1>everything I've gotten in my career I can attribute to

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a comedian. Industry has not given me ship straight up.

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they hate to hear this on camera, but

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>it's the truth fixative. You guys don't like it. Like

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>comedians have helped me get everything, even stuff I've gotten

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>from industry, it's been like started through a comedian down lines.

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>At some point they got my foot in the door.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're gonna tape, when you taped Comedy Central,

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you get how does it work? Like sell us the scene,

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Like tell us what you're doing when you get the

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:09.919
<v Speaker 1>phone call that you're about to do this, Like I

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>want to know all the details and emotions. Three or

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>four times I've done three, Three or four times I've

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>done Comedy Central. The first time I was I did

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.199
<v Speaker 1>This Week at the Seller TV show that was on

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Comedy Central for a couple of seasons. I was the

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>new comic at the Seller. That was like getting all

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the spots right, new young guy. Everybody loved me. ST

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>at the Seller loved me, and it was very much

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>just like they were taping it. It was a Seller show.

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>They were pushing all these comics on ST that weren't

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>past the Seller. I was someone who was passed, who

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>was a new young buck. I they were like st

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of helped book the dates, so she threw me

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of dates for tapings. But that doesn't mean

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get on. You have to kill. You have

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to be topical. I killed was topical got on and

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like I would love to say more about like my

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>little ideas and like what went on that helped me

0:28:58.360 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>get on, but I'm not gonna do that, But I

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>will say I killed. I got on. It came out great,

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>very happy. What was your emotions at the time, though, like,

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>especially as your first Comedy Central, Like what were you

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>so nervous? I was so nervous. I remember the first

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>hyping that got on. I fucking hate cringeworthy to this

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>day just looking at it. Oh, I gotta find that

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I did a joke about um because it's all topical.

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>We get to sell her, which, by the way, super

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>hectic the way they make us right, it's literally it's

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>like the day of they give you the topic, you

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta write a joke and then doing your front of

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a live audience. So the joke I did was about

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>how Trump had pardoned asap Rocky. Oh, okay, okay, I

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>think the joke, the joke hit. People like it, But

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I watched it and I'm like, boy, did I stumbled

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>through that wording because I was so nervous. I was

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>so frea nervous. It's like my first time. I don't think.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I definitely don't remember seeing any stumbles. Oh, every time

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I see it, I noticed, I'm like, oh what then?

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Was I saying? Do you watch all your stuff? Because

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I know some comics that will not watch like they're taped. Really,

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest, I don't think Darius watched his Netflix. Really,

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I will say it say it so it's not easy,

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>but I watched really are you now? Are you one

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>of the comics that still record all your sets, so

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't records the audio, okay, and do you play

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>them all back? I used to when I was like

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>starting out, I'm real bad at it. Now I'm real

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>bad actually listening to them. But occasionally if I need

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>something like last night you saw me, I did a

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>new tag off the top of the head that was crisp,

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>like it perfect and hit. I'm going to go back

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>and listen and figure out how I worded that. Now,

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you you don't do open mics anymore? Correct? Now when

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a new joke, are you working it out

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>during your paid sets? Yeah? Oh wow, that's good. That's good. Yeah,

0:30:54.200 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're extremely confident in like you know, at

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this point, I'm confident that I can make any set

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>go well. So, like, you know, you got a new joke.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Depending on the room you in, you might just do

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>new jokes, you know what I mean, Like, you're so

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>confident in that room. But like if I'm at the

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>seller or something like, that's a high pressure room. It's

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like I'll throw it towards the middle of the set.

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know what I mean, or or it won't

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>be the first time I've said it. Maybe I said

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>it a couple other times in other places. But either way,

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>if the joke goes bad, I'm confident in my skills

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>now that one joke going bad isn't going to ruin

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the set. I can quickly flip it into something that

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>kills and then just kill for us a set. So

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>for new comics, like what's a day in the life

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>of a comic that's arrived? Uh, waking up whenever you'd like,

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>um and uh, you go out to night and go

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>just It depends where you live too. I mean in

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>New York it's like literally every day you're working and

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 1>you're doing multiple sets to night, So like what hours

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>are you working? Like like eight pm? Too? Like three pm?

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Like what are your hours? I can leave the crib

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>around seven some nights and get home at two in

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the morning. Um, or I could leave some nights at

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>nine and get home at like midnight. It depends on

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the night, but usually the earliest I'll be out of

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the crib used on average is like seven, and the

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<v Speaker 1>latest I'll be in the crib Now that I got

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a girl, it's like it's like two three okay, okay,

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>really I remember coming to New York a couple of

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>times and hanging with you. I tried. I tried very

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>hard to hang out with him and be that supportive sister.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>When he comes to l A, I call myself like

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>his uber driver. This was before he had a license.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I would be like, Okay, I'm going to be

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a suber driver. His his little cheerleader or his number

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>one fan, I'd say, and then um. But when I

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>come to New York, it was almost like I would

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>have to literally put like a red Bull drip in

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>my veins because I mean it got to the point

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I got to a certain age I was like, look, bro,

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>just just bring me a chop cheese at a Snapple

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>like when you get back, because that was your thing

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>at night. Yeah yeah, and you would get home in

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like four or five and that would be like pretty

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>much my breakfast and your dinner. Yeah for sure. I

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>mean stand up in New York is like real, Like

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason there's been like TV shows about it

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and ship I mean it, it is truly the mecha,

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's constant. I look at comedians as entrepreneurs because

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, from an outside perspective, you know you're thinking

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>about you know, your art, right, you're putting your art out,

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>but you have to manage like your bookings and your

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>times and being on time and your negotiations and how

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna like build this career. So it's funny that

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, from like an audience perspective, you're like, oh,

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy's just charismatic and he's funny. But you know,

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and then you know also the fact that we're like

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>make me laugh. Like you know, you go to comedy club,

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>You're like, make me laugh, dude, Like that's why they

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>serve alcohol, right, But then it's like knowing you guys

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>up close, it's just like there's so many attributes to

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>comedy that I'm like, the whole world doesn't even like consider.

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And then, like you said, it's almost like people just

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>don't respect the craft, even my I was thinking about

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the entrepreneur entrepreneurial level the other day because I was

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I was talking I was talking about girl. I was

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>talking to her about, um, how comics like that aren't

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>getting doing doing standard for a living, can't like some

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of them can't wrap their head around or put the

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 1>energy into the concept that like the way you turn

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>this into how you pay your bills is a slow

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>build of like, Okay, I'm making this much amount every

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>month guaranteed. Okay, now next month, if I add these rooms,

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>these comedy clubs, I'll be making that much a month

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>every guaranteed. You know what I mean. It's like, eventually

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>you get to a point where you're guarantee that you're

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>going to bring in a certain amount every month because

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you've just built it that way. Like my earliest books

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of like counting every month. I was making like a

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty bucks in January, eighty bucks in February.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, for the whole month, for

0:34:55.560 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole month, but was for The thing is when

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you're doing what you love, like you you counting those

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars, you know what I mean? Like, damn made

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>this month off? Stand up, I'm fucking made it. My

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>god good. Were the comedy clubs feeding you? Because most times,

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>when I know, these com clubs don't feed you until

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>they give you half off. Oh dagny. Occasionally you get fed,

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>but by the time you getting fed by comedy clubs,

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 1>you already got enough money to pay for your own ship.

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>But in the beginning, when you're starting, they don't give

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a funk. They like, yeah, do this stand up? How

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>long did it take you to go from I mean,

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>we really want this transparency, but like, I know you've

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>been at this for a while, but how long did

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it take you to go from eighty dollars a month

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to get to where you're at where you're like, you know,

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I know you're doing well. Surprisingly not that long like

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>a year or two. Okay, it's a year. Well, I

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>mean for most people like living on eighty dollars a

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>month for years, but I mean it feels like forever.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>But it didn't feel like that to you. Don't feel

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like that, especially because just like you know, it's like

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>eighty and then it's like you hit a certain point

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in the year you're making like two hundred dollars a month.

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>But you gotta think about it. That's like a ducking

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>upgrading your one. You feel like you damn I'm doing

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 1>something like a month like you feel because you gotta think.

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>This is how I used to say. It's my comedian friends,

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, nigked if you had someone tell me

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.479
<v Speaker 1>this too. They were like, he's at the time Nico

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>told me this, so I'm actually stealing from him He's like,

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 1>if you make four dollars a month, that's a metro card. Boom,

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a bill paid off jokes, you know what I mean.

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>You make a hundred dollars a month, that could be

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>dollar slices all month. You know what. It just it

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>just adds up and before you know, you're like, oh,

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm paying rent, I'm paying for food, real food, metal card,

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Before you don't you like

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I could get some sneakers. You're actually making money, you

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>got paid taxes. Yeah, Now, there was never a point

0:36:55.560 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>in your career where you thought, nah, no, okay, effects

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>so okay, okay, So what piece of advice would you

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:10.720
<v Speaker 1>give to a comic coming into the game. Just worry

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>about being funny. Worry about being funny for real. Just

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>do as much stand up as you can. Worry about

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:21.800
<v Speaker 1>being funny. And if you suck and you're terrible after

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>years and years, after like five years, nigga quit now.

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>But wait, no, I agree. So I'm just curious now

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that you say that, because I meet guys that are

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>like rappers or they think they're they're rappers, you know,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.439
<v Speaker 1>but passion, but you know, like they're like not good

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>rappers and they're at it for like ten years. You know,

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 1>you meet that forty five year old guys selling CDs.

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why guys are still selling CDs on there.

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why nobody's playing the CD playing. I

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>feel so bad in Los Angeles and they'll be harassing

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>signing CDs and I'm like, where are they gonna play this?

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Where are they going to play I haven't seen a

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>CD player or DV actually, I don't even know where

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he thinks burn the CDs at record. But when you

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>see these forty year old guys that are still rapp

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, you know, like I used to have

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a rule, like I wouldnt even date someone in the industry.

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to run lines, I didn't want to

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>do any of that stuff, you know. But with comedy,

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>like even seeing your growth, you were funny, you were

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>always funny, but your level of funny right now is

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like I describe Eagle, and it's not because he's my

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>baby brother, because I have no problem keeping it real

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>with people. Were just avoiding the conversation to not keep

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it real with people. But but when I describe you,

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, he's going to be a legend. He's

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be up there with the Richard Priors because

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.240
<v Speaker 1>of the style of comedy, Like, I have no doubt

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>like the way you write, and I would love to

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>know before we close out, like how you like what

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 1>your writing processes. Like, I don't know if you're eating

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>lunch with your girlfriend and she does something quirky and

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you're like me, write about that ship, or or you're

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>joking with your homies and then you make a joke

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>and then you write it. I would love to know,

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like genuinely, like you asking right now because I thought

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you was gonna say yeah, I I. Well, there's two ways.

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>So one way is if we're chilling, were talking and

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I say something funny. I've gotten to a point now

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>where I could tell the difference between like funny and

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>convo funny and funny that I could actually translate on

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>stage and kill with. So if I say something funny

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and convo and it's that level where I could translate

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>on stage, I'm like, okay, I'll take that. Also, it

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>has to be what I care about talking about, because

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>now I'm at a point where I didn't think a

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of comedians get to this point most comedians get

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to this point. You get to a point where you're

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.439
<v Speaker 1>so good to stand up that you could like make

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>anything funny, Like you could be, like, write a joke

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>about this napkin, and by the time we get out

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>of here, by the time you get done with your

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>next interview, I have ten jokes about that napkin, and

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>eight of them bitches be funny, but we made challenge them,

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 1>but gone for real, for real. But when you get

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to that point, you start going, I don't want to

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>just talk about anything because now it's boring. So you

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>very much find the ship you care about and the

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>ship that makes you laugh, and the ship that makes

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you go and wonder and think, and you go, I'm

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna right about that. So like in convo, if I'm

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about something I care about, something that's fun to me, interesting,

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>right about that, or like it's popping my head when

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the train, write it down but it has

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>barely Like I don't write the way I used to.

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>I used to fill notebooks front and back pages very much,

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 1>so like I very much will write down an idea

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I go on stage and kind of freestyle it,

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>record the set and keep on shaping it and sculpting

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>it like Plato, got it, got it all right? All right? Yeah,

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I missed anything, but I will

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 1>tell you this. This is uh, this has been. They

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>were saying, I'm the best guest you ever had. That's

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>what they were saying. That was what I was looking

0:40:56.760 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>over here. I appreciate you, yo, thank you many did

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>they say? That's what they said, I'm the best? He said,

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>five minutes left? They said, top five, top ten minutes left.

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Ten minutes left. He said, I what's the time on

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>the clock. He said, you got no minutes left? He said,

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm the best. Well, thank you so much for uh

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 1>for you know, I've had the dollar slice with you before,

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>but thank you, thank you for making my life easier

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and making this an easy dish. This is the brokest

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>version because we've got little cups of water with the

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>slices and we don't have the hot sauce to fake

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the pepperoni. Yeah the slice is cold. Yeah yeah no,

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>but thank you so much. Ego ego with for y'all,

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and what's your Instagram ego with official? Thank you Ego

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>with official if you guys want to catch Ego with

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 1>You're more than likely going to have to be in

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.720
<v Speaker 1>New York. Otherwise you have to go online stalker's Instagram

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>find out what city is. I think you can actually

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>am him. Oh, I do have one last question. I

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>know we're gonna go over time, but confessions your confessions

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. I'm not a big Instagram person, but he

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>has this thing where you go on Instagram and he

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>tells his fans like confessions. I've never seen it before,

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>but if you go on Eagles Instagram, his fan base

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:22.280
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely hilarious. It is better than scrolling through Instagram.

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>When he opens up his confessions, people will go on

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:29.439
<v Speaker 1>there admitting crazy stories. But then sometimes his fans will

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>interact with the stories and like, a started doing that

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>and that has nothing to do with me. That's their

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>own creative yes, and it's funny. It'll be like I

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:41.359
<v Speaker 1>slept with my dad's sister's mom, and then the other

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>person would be like, I'm the dad's sister's mom and

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, and the stories take a turn

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>for the for the best. But I don't think anyone

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>has a more creative and open fan base. They'd be

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>admitted to like stealing each other boyfriends sleeping with they

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>My boy told me, he was like, you need to

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>talk show the way people open up to you. I

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>promised following you on Instagram like I would say. When

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I see confessions go up, I think it's like what

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>every thousand followers or something. That's that's the new thing

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing every thousand followers. I'll do confessions, yes,

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and he'll be like, you know, if you don't know,

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 1>He'll tell them the rules and it is on and popping.

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>There is no better day than a confessions day on

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Eagles stories on Instagram. And I'm not even kidding you.

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of like Jerry Springer or any

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of the above, it's entertaining, especially when the fans interact

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>with each other and they just they like feed off

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the crazy ass stories. Yeah yeah, yeah, So shout out

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<v Speaker 1>you can catch ego with or confessions that ego with

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