1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke. I'm your host, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Colleen Wit, and today we are outside the typical l 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: a podcast studio and into New York City, where I'm 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: originally from, and we are not cooking. We're eating out 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: today and we have a special guest. And the special 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: guest is my baby Brother also known as My Little Brother, 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: stand up comic. You may have seen him on Comedy Central, HBO. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: He sells out a lot of secret shows all over 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: New York City. Can catch him at the seller I 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: mean you literally can stalk his Instagram and try to 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: find a way to catch him. But I promise you'll 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: be an amazing night. So, Eagle Wits, what will you 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: have us eating today? Dollar slices? Dollars slices, so dollar 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: pizza slices? Okay, okay, So is this something you ate 15 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: on the regular or was it like you were cooking 16 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: up something else? And this is what I was eating 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: before stand up paid like doing the open mics and 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, you get a dollar slice. My boy shout 19 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: out with sama. He would He actually taught me. He 20 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: was like, if you put hot sauce on the slice, 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: like drizzle hot sauce on it. It's almost like the 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: pepperoni's there, like you could taste the pepperoni. And we 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: used to do that every day. We ask other comics 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: to have more money than us for a dollar just 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: to go get a dollar slice. And now have you 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: ever like now that you I would say, you're I 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: want to say you've arrived in your career. You're definitely 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: you're definitely doing well. Would you do you ever randomly 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: like get starving, hungry and say let me go get 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: a dollar slice? Or you know that's how much you 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: hate it? Yeah, it's over, it's over. Okay, okay, okay, 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: So on a one to ten, if you were comparing 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: to slices, you have the dollar slice versus your average slice, 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Like where does this dollar slice range? You could get 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: a really good dollar slice that's like a six out 36 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: of a ten, you know, Oh you mean like a 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: random like just one day it comes up and it's 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: a decent like some of them, some of them dollars 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: places to be all right, you know for real, but 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: you wouldn't never done. I mean, it's not messing with 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: a real slice. Okay, okay, yeah, okay, So what did 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: you cook in the kitchen when you were struggling growth 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: ship like way worse than dollars. Like what I would 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: get this is I had a three dollar meal I 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: would do every night when I get home late from 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: open mics, I would get ramen. I would get like 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: a can of peas or corn and a cana tuna, 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: and I would because you got the protein, you got 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: your veggie, and you got your start, you know what 50 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean. And I put that ship together and mix 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: it up, you know, drain it a little bit, put 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: it even on a pan a little bit. Okay, Okay, 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: did you add butter to your like sometimes? Okay, I 54 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: used to try to make it moves with a little butter. 55 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: But let's just go ahead and try these dollar slices 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: we had to improvise today because we had to do 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: the uber eats or however. So we're just gonna eat 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: a slice of pizza just to kind of try to 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: get into what you were going through while you were 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: working your way to the top. So we're gonna take 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: a bite, all right, all right, mm hmm, Chase the 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: poverty saying, well, it's good, the pizza's colt. So I 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: can imagine it was like terrible, it was. It was 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: just bad. It was bad. I remember like maybe a 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: year unto your stand up, coming to New York and 66 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: you had you were legit like borrowing a dollar from 67 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: me to buy a slice because it's real. Yeah, it 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: was real. So there's one dollar slice place where the 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: dude you talked to him long enough, he just forget 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: that you didn't pay, and he just let you walk out. 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: Me and my boy used to go there all the time. Yeah, 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: but you guys just chatter him up, just talk to 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: this naked forever. Let there be a cute girl in there. 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: He really forget Okay, okay, So tell us what was 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: going on at that time when you were doing these dollars, 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: like well, you know, it was like no, um, I 77 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: open micing it. You know, you don't get paid to 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: do open mics. Sometimes you pay to do open mics. Yeah, yeah, 79 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: um doing like no exaggeration, like five to thirteen open 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: mics a day. I leave early in the afternoon, like 81 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: two in the afternoon and come home too in the morning. 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Just did that for like probably like a year and 83 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: a half, two years, and no part of you was like, oh, 84 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe this isn't for me, or did 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: you get frustrated. Did you ever have like a day 86 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: job or anything? Kind of but not really. I couldn't 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: keep a day job because it was like to do 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: that much stand up you had to kind of just 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: commit to it and be broke. Is like it is 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: the only way to get really good. I would like 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: go in and out of day jobs kind of. Remember, man, 92 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: I did Postmates and oh you did Postmates Bro's Oh 93 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: my god. I don't want to slander a brand on 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: the podcast. Man, they it's like they you make just 95 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: enough money to get hungry from walking around to buy food, 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: and then your back broke again. And that's just how 97 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: it goes. It's like you deliver food that also makes 98 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: you hungry because you're like smelling people's food and ship 99 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: and then you like, well, I made five dollars off 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: that I gotta get something to eat. And then you 101 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: the five dollars gone and you're like, all right, well 102 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: I'll just deliver some more food. And then you deliver 103 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: that food, you like, I'm hungry again, and you just 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: it's like a weird fucking thing you're in. You just 105 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: make no profit, Like it's terrible. What other jobs did 106 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: you didn't you all like I think your house that 107 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: or something. Didn't you do some of those apps? I 108 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: would house it, I uh house that. I would I 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: use this app what was it called task Rabbit, And 110 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: I was terrible at making furniture. I would do like 111 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: the Ikea Furniture Ship, but I was getting so many 112 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: bad reviews. I made a crib and the baby fell 113 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: like it was like all funked up and uh. And 114 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: then like I was like, all right, well, I'm only 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: gonna do like pet sitting in house sitting because then 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: I get to stay in a nice crib and I 117 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: get to just chill and I could just charge a lot. 118 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: And I was doing it for a very short amount 119 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: of time because I was sucking girls in the cribs 120 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: and somebody had like a camera something. Somebody found out 121 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: I sucked in their crib and it was over. Like 122 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: it was like bad reviews all of the ship, and 123 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: I was kicked off task rapping task grap It was 124 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: making money too, I was making money off task grabbing. Damn. Okay, Okay, 125 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: So was there ever a point in your career where 126 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: the struggle hit where you had to like possibly reevaluate 127 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: or did you have pressure coming in where people were like, 128 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: maybe you should just quit and get a day job. 129 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: The funny thing is, like I think with stand up 130 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: is funny because like people don't care about stand ups 131 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: enough to tell them to quit. They just look at 132 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: you like you're stupid for even trying. It's like the 133 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: idea of them telling you that quit doesn't even come 134 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: into their head. They're just like, really, you do stand up, 135 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: and they just walk out like that. There's no like 136 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: second sentence. I interviewed a couple of comics like Lunell Earthquake, 137 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: and one of the things that they have pointed out 138 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: which I never even thought about. I don't know if 139 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: anyone ever thinks about this when it comes to comedy. 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: But if you're listening to like your favorite Beyonce or 141 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: jay Z record, you go to their concert, you want 142 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: to hear the same song you know that you've literally 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: played in your your CD or your you know, your 144 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: AirPods a million times. But with comedy, you never want 145 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: to go to a comedy club and hear the same joke. 146 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: So I started to think, I think, out of all 147 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: the jobs in the entertainment business, yours job has to 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: be the most stressful because you're dealing with council culture 149 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: and you're also dealing with like constantly like re re 150 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: re coming up with new materials, So like how do 151 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: you find that balance? Like how are you able to 152 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: like are you sitting at home? Like I gotta right today, 153 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: Like I want to know like a day in the life. 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm very lucky to be like just a like I'm 155 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: a prolific creator. As my management say, um, I come 156 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: out my turnover rates really high, but I feel bad 157 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: for niggas whose turnover rates aren't high. Like my turn 158 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: of rate is very, very high. What do you mean 159 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: by turnover rate? Like how quickly I could come up 160 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: with new material? Like it's very fast. Like if I 161 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: if I do a set on Comedy Central, I could 162 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: burn that material. I don't like to, but I could 163 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: burn that material and come up with a new set 164 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: pretty fast. Now, like every year, at this rate, I'm 165 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: probably thirty new minutes a year, which is pretty fast 166 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: from my from my point, But at some point when 167 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: you're like twenty years and you're like Kevin hart bur 168 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you know these niggas, it's like you should be able 169 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: to come up with like an hour a year, which 170 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: is nuts. Nuts, but I'm not there yet. Now, when 171 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: you release a joke online and it trends, that's technically 172 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: considered you're retiring a joke. You're going retiring of a joke. 173 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm very on defense about that. I don't know what 174 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: do you mean spill it? If I mean it's not 175 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: on contract, I don't have to retire it. It's like 176 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: one day if a special comes out and there's something 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: that's online where I feel like, oh this would make 178 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: history and especial, I might just delete off the Internet 179 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: and put it in the special because it's my content. 180 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm the one you shared it. I own it still, Okay. So, 181 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: because one of the comics that I had interviewed in 182 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: the past has said, like, you know, once you release 183 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: a joke, you really shouldn't say it again on stage, Like, 184 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? I disagree. I highly disagree, 185 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: because it's like who's seeing it, even if it goes viral, 186 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: even if it's like three million views, which like I 187 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: have stand up jokes that have like three million views, 188 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that like when you do a show, 189 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: whoever is there has seen the joke. Your fans have, 190 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: for sure, But to me, the concept of putting out 191 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: a special or something like that is to gain new fans. 192 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: So it's like, your new fans aren't going to be 193 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: people that have seen that joke. When you do a 194 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: random show at the comedy club, guarantee you the crowd 195 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: has not seen that joke. It's just like viral is 196 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: not that big now. I would consider so people. Different 197 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: people have reached out to me about you and said, okay, 198 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: they would compare you to a Chappelle And they say 199 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: that bainly because you strategy. You you straddle the almost 200 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: cancel culture. Like you say the ship that is like 201 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: that's just funny, but like you know, like do you 202 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: ever get nervous when you're writing content where it's like 203 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: a little bit scary in the cancel culture arrange? Have 204 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: you ever faired cancel culture? No? Not not no, not 205 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: material what So there's never been a point where you 206 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: were like, I like this joke, but I don't know. No, 207 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: but I haven't pressured into dropping jokes, which very like 208 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: is inner turmoil all the time for me. Can you 209 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: give us like an example, I have a joke about 210 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: Asian people that I got pressured into dropping once the 211 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: Asian hate things started happening, and I was really annoyed 212 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: because you're I find it's like the people that get 213 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: offended at the jokes aren't the people the joke is about. 214 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: It'll be like you write a joke about Indian people 215 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of white people get mad. You'd 216 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: be like, nigg this is even about you and Indian 217 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: people smacking their knees. This is so funny. We do 218 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: like curry, you know what I mean. Like and it's like, 219 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: but the white people be like this is not age, 220 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: or like black people be like upset for Spanish people, 221 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: Like it's never the people the joke is about. It 222 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people that feel bad for the 223 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: people got it. It's like it's just annoying. Like I 224 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: had people tell me you dropped the Asian joke, but 225 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: when I would do it after the shows, Asian people 226 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: be taking pictures with me. They'd be like, man, the 227 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: joke was so great. Finally, some are you talking about us, 228 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: like this is what you talked about. That makes sense 229 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: because if black people I'm just speaking from black perspective, 230 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: if we hear a joke that's clown of black people, 231 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna laugh, So I'm gonna throw a wild card 232 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: in here. Um, well, I got a couple more. I 233 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: got some questions before I thought the wild card just 234 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: remind me to to have a wild card in here. 235 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: That's probably not gonna want to answer, but um, has 236 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: there ever been like another comedian that gave you some 237 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: advice that like was pivotal? I know you personally told 238 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: me stuff about Bill Burr is my favorite comic, like 239 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: one of my favorite comps, or gave me great advice. Yeah, 240 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: can you share some of that advice? I was about 241 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: to tape something for Comedy Central. It's like my first 242 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: like straight up stand up set didn't have to do 243 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: with the TV shows like straight up they were I mean, 244 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: technically it's a show, but it's like they were just 245 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: doing stand upon it And I was super excited, but 246 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: I was like nervous about what material to choose. Is 247 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: like fresh out of the pandemic. Pandemic is still going on, 248 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: so I was rusty, and uh I asked him. I 249 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: was like, man, there's certain bits I want to like 250 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: say for a special one day, And he was like, 251 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: what are you saving for? Like like your he just 252 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: see me do stand up. He's like, you're funny. He's 253 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: like believing your talent. He's like believing your talent. He's like, 254 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: if you believe in your talent, that means do your 255 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: best material because you could die tomorrow and this will 256 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: be your legacy and then come up with new material 257 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: and it should be better than the previous material because 258 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: it's new. So like, don't ever hoard material for a 259 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: rainy day because that ra any day may never might 260 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: never come. And he's like, that's all ego telling you, like, 261 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a special one day. I'm gonna have this. 262 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: It's like, you don't know that you have an opportunity 263 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: right now, put out your best ship and then move forward. Yea. 264 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: He was like, if you if every chance, he said, 265 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: every chance you get to be on TV or do 266 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: stand up in front of a mass audience, that's a 267 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: chance to get fans, to get industreated, like you to 268 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: get everything to work in your favorite career. Wise, so 269 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: do your best ship, Like don't hold back. It was 270 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: really good advice because I was about to hold back. 271 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: Is there anybody else that gave you something that was 272 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: like stuck out? There's so many I had a comics, 273 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: tell me. Derek Gaines, he told me never played to 274 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: the back of the room. That was big early in 275 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: my career. That means don't play to the comics. So 276 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: some comedians do stand up the back of the room. 277 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: The idea of the back of the room is like 278 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: comedians will hang out in the back of the room. 279 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: They don't say they hang in the back room because 280 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: there's no seeds for comedians. And some comedians will very 281 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: much try to make the comedians in the back of 282 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: the room laugh and it's like because it's like it's 283 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: almost high school. It's like very like I'm the I'm 284 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: funny you guys, right, But the crowd would be like 285 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: because crowds and comics don't laugh at this aime ship. Yeah, 286 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: So like that was very good advice. He was like, 287 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: comics will never pay your bills, like these niggs to 288 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: dap you up after the show. They're not gonna pay 289 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: your bills. The people in the crowd are gonna pay 290 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: your bills one day. Now, what's like the worst situation 291 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: you had when it came to hey, Because I'd imagine 292 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: that the more successful you get, there's gotta be little 293 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: issues of hate or something that creeps in, right, I mean, 294 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: comics talk shit, but comics are always gonna talk shit. 295 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't I don't really face any crazy Hey, I'll 296 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: tell you what when I did that, Comedy Central said 297 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: that burging me advice one. I did a joke about 298 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: white women getting shot by the cops, and two days 299 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: later after it got released, the insurrection happened and the 300 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: white lady got shot by like like a security guard 301 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: or something. He wasn't even like a cop, but he 302 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: was like a security guard for like the capital or whatever. 303 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: And man, they was on the internet acting like I 304 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: was psychic or Illuminati, like they it's so dumb, like 305 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: everybody is so conspiracy theorists about anyone in show business, 306 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: like so like she got shot and they was like, 307 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: you know that comedian just talked about it, and and 308 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: then it happened real mysterious, like real type type of energy. 309 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, niggad, I'm not like, I don't know, 310 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like it's just a joke. So, speaking of 311 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: like how people respond to certain things, I have to 312 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: ask you, Um, I don't even know if I even 313 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: asked you about your view on the whole. And I 314 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: don't want to bring it up. I really am. I 315 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: want to retire just for the sake of everyone's health, 316 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: mental health in this. But it came to the Will 317 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: Smith Chris Rock slap fuck Will Smith firmly, I will 318 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: say that on the podcast Fuck Will Smith. Yeah, I 319 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: don't care fuck Will Smith. Why Uh, that's he knows. 320 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: He knows at this point he was wrong. If I 321 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: say funk Will Smith. And I'm a comic, he if 322 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: he was to ever see this, he wouldn't be shocked. 323 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: He's had other people say fucking I'm sure since but 324 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, um, it's terrible for stand up Like you 325 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: are sending a precedent where it's like, if you get 326 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: offended up something that comedian says, you can literally physically 327 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: attack them. That's crazy. And not only is it sending 328 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: the president, but it's like the level of precedent is 329 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: like you smacked our king, Like there's nobody bigger than 330 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: Chris rock Like Chris Rock. You are smacking stand up. 331 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: You are saying like if Chris Rocking gets smacked, any 332 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: of these niggs can get smacked because he's the he's 333 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: the biggest and the best, he's the most legendary, so 334 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: it's like, if you smack him, it's open season for everybody. 335 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: So okay, so I understood, although he's working, it's like 336 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: he smacked him while he's working, Like I don't understand. 337 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: It's like his job is to do what he did. 338 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: I definitely it was so funny because I actually don't 339 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: watch I think it was a m it was the Oscars. 340 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: The Oscars. I'm not one of those people that watch 341 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: the Oscars. You know. My husband is like an actor, 342 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: actor slash comedian, so he lives for that stuff. And 343 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: the one time I'm watching it, I see the slap 344 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, is this is what I've been missing? 345 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: Like I said, oh my god, I thought it was stage. 346 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: I was like immediately went to my phone because I 347 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: was like YouTube will have clips in seconds. I'm like refreshing, 348 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: like what's that real? And I was like, oh ship, 349 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: I need to watch this show more. Like I did 350 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: not know, but you know, of course I understood the perspective. 351 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: You can't hit a comment, you know, there's multiple reasons. 352 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: But then the softer side of me was like, you know, 353 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: Will Smith's been in the game a long time and 354 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: there's so much pressure, and especially like it's one thing 355 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: when you're like Cat Williams. Cat Williams has his bad boy, 356 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: So when Cat Williams gets in trouble and goes to jail, 357 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: it's like we're like, oh, it's Cat Williams, you know. 358 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: But Will Smith has this like squeaky clean personality. And 359 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, I don't want to know. 360 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: I know us as women, we put a lot of 361 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: pressure on our guys, like like, you know you're in 362 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: a great relationship when you can yell at your guy 363 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: and he just like shrugs his shoulders like whatever, like 364 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, she's crazy today it's Tuesday, like for real. 365 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: But you never know because sometimes women we put our 366 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: men under pressure. So I don't know, like I don't 367 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: know what was going on in their relationship for him 368 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: to like just snap. But I definitely think that that 369 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: in the industry, so much pressure that it's like I 370 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: think him saying I'm sorry for me was enough to 371 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: be like that's fine. We're human, Like I've snapped on 372 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: people that I Here's my issue with the apology, right 373 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: is it came months later and that night he apologized 374 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: to the whole academy and all the actors. But he 375 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't apologize to Chris Rock. It's like, literally, the night 376 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: you smacked that nigger, you had a chance to apologize 377 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: to him, and you avoided apologizing to him. You apologize 378 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: to everybody else in the room, you didn't apologize to 379 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: the person you smacked. To me, if you wait months 380 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: and then apologize, it's like, okay, like I hear it. 381 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean good, it's not a bad thing. Well, now 382 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: I know if I piss you off, just apologize within 383 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: a certain time frame. I mean, he literally smacked this 384 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: dude on National TV. Apologize that night. If you're gonna 385 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: apologize to anyone, Yeah, I feel like every comic is 386 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: going to agree with you, because most most comics, you'd 387 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: be surprised. But most comics, well there's some that are 388 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: like comics that are like, well, you know, will you 389 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: know his wife been like shut up, man, I mean, 390 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: if you gotta think, Will Smith contributed a lot of 391 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: happiness to a lot of kids. I love Will Smith. 392 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: That's my favorite TV show ever. Yeah yeah, but now 393 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: used to be my favorite actor. To that smack, I 394 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: think you'll forgive him. I think so if he went 395 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: do you think he can even walk into a comedy 396 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: club right now. Probably not. I mean, he could walk 397 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: into anywhere a celebrity. I'm saying, though, do you think 398 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: he would get like booze or like some kind of 399 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: shade from comics. I'll tell you what. I've seen rock 400 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: walk into a comedy club since, and I've never heard 401 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: innovation like the ovation they gave Rock Terrorist came to 402 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: my eyes. I've never been so moved by innovation. I 403 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: couldn't even imagine what he was feeling. Yeah, Like I 404 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: think fans of comedy very much are like, we love you, Chris, 405 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Sorry that happened, you know. It's also just like a 406 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: bully move, like look at Chris Rocket, look at Will Smith, 407 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't think Will would. I know that we've 408 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: all heard this, but like, I don't think we would 409 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: have done that to fucking like insert if Bernie Mack 410 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: was still alive or you know what I'm saying. Like 411 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: he very much like picked who to do it too, 412 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: And it's like that to me, rubs me the wrong way. 413 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. It seemed very impulsive, So I 414 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: don't know if it was like one of those things 415 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: where he was like I'm gonna get Chris. How implosive 416 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: was it? He laughed at the joke first, like he 417 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: laughed at the joke, and then he looked at Jada 418 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: and he was like, that's what I think women put 419 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: men like you just never know what's going on in 420 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: someone's relationship. I think that, Like I'm not saying she 421 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: used to blame, but you never know, like what is 422 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: going on that contributing Maybe he was clowning at home 423 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know. Stuff took the time, but you 424 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: want this man. Is The sad thing about it is 425 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: it's truly just the disrespect of the art form because 426 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: it's like, well, is the same person who months prior 427 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: to this happening had a whole series about how you 428 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: want to learn how to do stand up and he 429 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: invited all these comedians on and help him. And he 430 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: was getting into the stand up art form and he 431 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: loves it. And I don't want to do it, but 432 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: I just want to do it as a hobby. I 433 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: want to get to experience it. It's like you love 434 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: stand up, but you don't love it enough to respect 435 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: it as like a respect people like craft and work, 436 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you wouldn't smack anybody 437 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: else were they working like you have to. First of all, 438 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: he's the best worker that we have. Yeah, yeah, it's 439 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: like the most professional stand up comedian is Chris Rock. 440 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: That's why he hit Will back. No, he handled it well. 441 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: But speaking of I don't want to get spent too 442 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: much time on Will Smith, you know, just a little 443 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: smidget because I want to get more out of you. So, 444 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: what a lot of you guys don't know is that 445 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Eagle and I have a definitely age difference. We're not 446 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: going to say what it is, and so we grew 447 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: up a little differently. And so I want to know 448 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of your backstory because I missed the 449 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: chapter of where the inspiration came for you to pursue comedy. 450 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: And I also want to know a little bit about 451 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: what your childhood was like, Um, everyone told me to 452 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: do stand up? How do you want to do this? Ship? Truly, 453 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: when you say everybody like, who friends mom, I could 454 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: say mom, because we got the same mom. You're the 455 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: same parents. But yeah, I left home at six. You 456 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: know there's a there's an age difference, But like WHOA 457 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: what environment did you grow up in? I'd say um, 458 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: you know. Mom was like, uh, it was just me 459 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: and mom. It's just me and mom. Mom was going 460 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: through a lot of mental stuff and Mom would cry 461 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot, like every day, and I'd come home from 462 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: school and just tell her like funny stories literally from 463 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: like elementary school, and she was just crack up, start laughing. 464 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: And we watched Comic View all the time, We watched friends, 465 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: we watched anything that was funny kind of get through 466 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: the pain. And she would always be like, you funnier 467 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: than everybody on TV, Like you cracking me up with 468 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: your little school stories. She's like, you could do that, 469 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: you could do We watched Comic View, which isn't you know, 470 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: but whatever, it's not the best, but we watched Comic 471 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: You She'd be like, you could do that, you could 472 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: do better than them. But I was like a little kid, 473 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, this is stupid, Like she's crazy, she 474 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: doesn't know what she's talking about. But then in school, 475 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: like I started having friends. I would hang out with colleague. 476 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: I always give him credit first friend that He was like, 477 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: nig you're stand into comedian. You just don't know, Yeah, 478 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: you're funnier than everybody. And that was like young that 479 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: was like third, like real young, and uh it started 480 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: spiraling where other friends with kind of hair colleagues say, 481 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: or they start feeling the same way, you know, you 482 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: should do stand up, you should do stand up. And 483 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: I always be like, no, no, no no, I'm not a 484 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: clown because I didn't respect it. That's an interesting thing 485 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: about the art form is it is very not respected 486 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: because people just don't know what goes into it. And 487 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: I originally didn't respect it. I was like, I'm not 488 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: a clown. That was my response. But then I was like, 489 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, like twenty one and like what am I 490 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: gonna do? And it could be homeless, like I didn't 491 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: have anything to do with my life. I was in 492 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: community college. Like I was like, you go to college 493 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: and you're sitting Okay, so you're sitting there in class 494 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: and you're still debating like the hallway Holly that girls. 495 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I never went to class, So then where does this 496 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: epiphany like screw it, I'm gonna try it. Uh. I 497 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: was well, when I got out of high school, I 498 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: was thinking like something comedy related, but I was really 499 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: scared to get on stage. So I was like making 500 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: like YouTube videos and like stupid ship like that, but 501 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't really getting in the track. I was just 502 00:23:54,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: scared to get on stage, and uh, Dad took me. 503 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: He was like, well, let's go to let's see what 504 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: type of stage stuff you might want to do. So 505 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: he took me to the U c B at the 506 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: time that when it was open is Improv place and 507 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: I watched improv is like a Saturday night and I 508 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: was like, not this, Like I don't want to be 509 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: on the team with a whole bunch of people all happy, 510 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: go lucky improv and stuff. Uh. Then he took me 511 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: to the Comic Strip and it was late night. My 512 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: boy to this day, Jordan Rock Chris is a little brother. 513 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: Ironically in this conversation, he was on stage. He's around 514 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: my age, and I remember watching him and being like, oh, 515 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: he's funny and he's close to my age. I feel 516 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: more like maybe this is something. And it got his 517 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: info and I started hitting him up every day like, bro, 518 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm scared to get on stage. What do you think? 519 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: And he's like, let's just try and error, Like you 520 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: go up, you try stuff, it doesn't work, fix it, 521 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: do it again. And I understand it for months and 522 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: then one day I kind of cracked and just tried it. 523 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: I hated it quit for three weeks. You convinced me 524 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: to get back. I was gonna say, I remember getting 525 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: a phone call from you saying like I'm going to 526 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: try it, and and you you went up one time. 527 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: I think you said no, I'm good, and I was like, 528 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: I think my advice was shitty advice kind of. I 529 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: was like, just try it three times. You could like 530 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: drink and get how you can just figure out how 531 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: it is and just try at least three times before 532 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: you quit. And then like you did stand up like 533 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: one more time and you were like, yeah, I'm good. 534 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: You never did drugs to do it either. All it 535 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: took was one great response from the crowd. I remember 536 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: the joke. What was the joke? It was, I just 537 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: turned twenty one. I don't drink, so I google what 538 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: you can do at your age, and you can adopt kids. 539 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna adopt the seventeen year old and boss 540 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: them around. And it was like like bit about how 541 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: I basically adopted Nigga who's basically my age, and like yeah, 542 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: like a huge response. People clapped and ship and I 543 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: was like this is like I want to do stand up. 544 00:25:51,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: This is great. So when you started doing stand up, 545 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: did a lot of girls enter the scene like, oh 546 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: my god, Like because I've seen I've gone out with you. 547 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: I almost walked into rooms with disclaimers like I'm his sister. 548 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: Definitely don't want him. You can have him type attitude, 549 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: like do you think that being a comic, there's a 550 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: lot of like girl fans or with every comic or 551 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: just just select for you. I'll say this, I got 552 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: pussy before stand up, Like there's a lot of comedians 553 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: who definitely like lean on. There's a lot of people 554 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: in show business in general. I feel who lean on 555 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: like I'm this person and girls like that, and now 556 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: I lean on that to get girls. To me, that's 557 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: just toxic and very tricky borders. I don't do that. 558 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Like I was getting girls before stand up, get girls 559 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: after stand up during stand up, like it's not about 560 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: stand up. Stand up does help, yeah, yeah, but you 561 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: know I was chilling before. So I don't know where 562 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: we are time wise, but um, but I do want 563 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: to know is there any interactions would say someone that 564 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: you looked up to that was like oh bad, Yeah, 565 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: Like was there a celebrity and you can name drop. 566 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. That's okay. Well, can you just 567 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: tell trying to rule my career every celebrity i'm has 568 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: been wonderful. Well, celebrities aren't like someone because they're not 569 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: like agents managers. But I guess they can still hate 570 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: on you a little bit, like what if they want 571 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: you to go on road or something. Now that comedians 572 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: are the most helpful people in my career, everything I can, 573 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: everything I've gotten in my career I can attribute to 574 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: a comedian. Industry has not given me ship straight up. 575 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure they hate to hear this on camera, but 576 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: it's the truth fixative. You guys don't like it. Like 577 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: comedians have helped me get everything, even stuff I've gotten 578 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: from industry, it's been like started through a comedian down lines. 579 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: At some point they got my foot in the door. 580 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: So when you're gonna tape, when you taped Comedy Central, 581 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: you get how does it work? Like sell us the scene, 582 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: Like tell us what you're doing when you get the 583 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: phone call that you're about to do this, Like I 584 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: want to know all the details and emotions. Three or 585 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: four times I've done three, Three or four times I've 586 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: done Comedy Central. The first time I was I did 587 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: This Week at the Seller TV show that was on 588 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: Comedy Central for a couple of seasons. I was the 589 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: new comic at the Seller. That was like getting all 590 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: the spots right, new young guy. Everybody loved me. ST 591 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: at the Seller loved me, and it was very much 592 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: just like they were taping it. It was a Seller show. 593 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: They were pushing all these comics on ST that weren't 594 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: past the Seller. I was someone who was passed, who 595 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: was a new young buck. I they were like st 596 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: kind of helped book the dates, so she threw me 597 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of dates for tapings. But that doesn't mean 598 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna get on. You have to kill. You have 599 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: to be topical. I killed was topical got on and 600 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: like I would love to say more about like my 601 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: little ideas and like what went on that helped me 602 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: get on, but I'm not gonna do that, But I 603 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: will say I killed. I got on. It came out great, 604 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: very happy. What was your emotions at the time, though, like, 605 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: especially as your first Comedy Central, Like what were you 606 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: so nervous? I was so nervous. I remember the first 607 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: hyping that got on. I fucking hate cringeworthy to this 608 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: day just looking at it. Oh, I gotta find that 609 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: I did a joke about um because it's all topical. 610 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: We get to sell her, which, by the way, super 611 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: hectic the way they make us right, it's literally it's 612 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: like the day of they give you the topic, you 613 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: gotta write a joke and then doing your front of 614 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: a live audience. So the joke I did was about 615 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: how Trump had pardoned asap Rocky. Oh, okay, okay, I 616 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: think the joke, the joke hit. People like it, But 617 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I watched it and I'm like, boy, did I stumbled 618 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: through that wording because I was so nervous. I was 619 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: so frea nervous. It's like my first time. I don't think. 620 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: I definitely don't remember seeing any stumbles. Oh, every time 621 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: I see it, I noticed, I'm like, oh what then? 622 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: Was I saying? Do you watch all your stuff? Because 623 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: I know some comics that will not watch like they're taped. Really, 624 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I don't think Darius watched his Netflix. Really, 625 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: I will say it say it so it's not easy, 626 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: but I watched really are you now? Are you one 627 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: of the comics that still record all your sets, so 628 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: you don't records the audio, okay, and do you play 629 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: them all back? I used to when I was like 630 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: starting out, I'm real bad at it. Now I'm real 631 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: bad actually listening to them. But occasionally if I need 632 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: something like last night you saw me, I did a 633 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: new tag off the top of the head that was crisp, 634 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: like it perfect and hit. I'm going to go back 635 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: and listen and figure out how I worded that. Now, 636 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: you you don't do open mics anymore? Correct? Now when 637 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: you have a new joke, are you working it out 638 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: during your paid sets? Yeah? Oh wow, that's good. That's good. Yeah, 639 00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: you're you're you're extremely confident in like you know, at 640 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: this point, I'm confident that I can make any set 641 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: go well. So, like, you know, you got a new joke. 642 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: Depending on the room you in, you might just do 643 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: new jokes, you know what I mean, Like, you're so 644 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: confident in that room. But like if I'm at the 645 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: seller or something like, that's a high pressure room. It's 646 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: like I'll throw it towards the middle of the set. 647 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you know what I mean, or or it won't 648 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: be the first time I've said it. Maybe I said 649 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: it a couple other times in other places. But either way, 650 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: if the joke goes bad, I'm confident in my skills 651 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: now that one joke going bad isn't going to ruin 652 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: the set. I can quickly flip it into something that 653 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: kills and then just kill for us a set. So 654 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: for new comics, like what's a day in the life 655 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: of a comic that's arrived? Uh, waking up whenever you'd like, 656 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: um and uh, you go out to night and go 657 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: just It depends where you live too. I mean in 658 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: New York it's like literally every day you're working and 659 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: you're doing multiple sets to night, So like what hours 660 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: are you working? Like like eight pm? Too? Like three pm? 661 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Like what are your hours? I can leave the crib 662 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: around seven some nights and get home at two in 663 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: the morning. Um, or I could leave some nights at 664 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: nine and get home at like midnight. It depends on 665 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: the night, but usually the earliest I'll be out of 666 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the crib used on average is like seven, and the 667 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: latest I'll be in the crib Now that I got 668 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: a girl, it's like it's like two three okay, okay, 669 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: really I remember coming to New York a couple of 670 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: times and hanging with you. I tried. I tried very 671 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: hard to hang out with him and be that supportive sister. 672 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: When he comes to l A, I call myself like 673 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: his uber driver. This was before he had a license. 674 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: Like I would be like, Okay, I'm going to be 675 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: a suber driver. His his little cheerleader or his number 676 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: one fan, I'd say, and then um. But when I 677 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: come to New York, it was almost like I would 678 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: have to literally put like a red Bull drip in 679 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: my veins because I mean it got to the point 680 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: I got to a certain age I was like, look, bro, 681 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: just just bring me a chop cheese at a Snapple 682 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: like when you get back, because that was your thing 683 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: at night. Yeah yeah, and you would get home in 684 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: like four or five and that would be like pretty 685 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: much my breakfast and your dinner. Yeah for sure. I 686 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: mean stand up in New York is like real, Like 687 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: there's a reason there's been like TV shows about it 688 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: and ship I mean it, it is truly the mecha, 689 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: like it's constant. I look at comedians as entrepreneurs because 690 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, from an outside perspective, you know you're thinking 691 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: about you know, your art, right, you're putting your art out, 692 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: but you have to manage like your bookings and your 693 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: times and being on time and your negotiations and how 694 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna like build this career. So it's funny that 695 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, from like an audience perspective, you're like, oh, 696 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: this guy's just charismatic and he's funny. But you know, 697 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: and then you know also the fact that we're like 698 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: make me laugh. Like you know, you go to comedy club, 699 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: You're like, make me laugh, dude, Like that's why they 700 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: serve alcohol, right, But then it's like knowing you guys 701 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: up close, it's just like there's so many attributes to 702 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: comedy that I'm like, the whole world doesn't even like consider. 703 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: And then, like you said, it's almost like people just 704 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: don't respect the craft, even my I was thinking about 705 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: the entrepreneur entrepreneurial level the other day because I was 706 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: I was talking I was talking about girl. I was 707 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: talking to her about, um, how comics like that aren't 708 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: getting doing doing standard for a living, can't like some 709 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: of them can't wrap their head around or put the 710 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: energy into the concept that like the way you turn 711 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: this into how you pay your bills is a slow 712 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: build of like, Okay, I'm making this much amount every 713 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: month guaranteed. Okay, now next month, if I add these rooms, 714 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: these comedy clubs, I'll be making that much a month 715 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: every guaranteed. You know what I mean. It's like, eventually 716 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: you get to a point where you're guarantee that you're 717 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: going to bring in a certain amount every month because 718 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: you've just built it that way. Like my earliest books 719 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: of like counting every month. I was making like a 720 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty bucks in January, eighty bucks in February. 721 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, for the whole month, for 722 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: the whole month, but was for The thing is when 723 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: you're doing what you love, like you you counting those 724 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: twenty dollars, you know what I mean? Like, damn made 725 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: this month off? Stand up, I'm fucking made it. My 726 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: god good. Were the comedy clubs feeding you? Because most times, 727 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: when I know, these com clubs don't feed you until 728 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: they give you half off. Oh dagny. Occasionally you get fed, 729 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: but by the time you getting fed by comedy clubs, 730 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: you already got enough money to pay for your own ship. 731 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: But in the beginning, when you're starting, they don't give 732 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: a funk. They like, yeah, do this stand up? How 733 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: long did it take you to go from I mean, 734 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: we really want this transparency, but like, I know you've 735 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: been at this for a while, but how long did 736 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: it take you to go from eighty dollars a month 737 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: to get to where you're at where you're like, you know, 738 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: I know you're doing well. Surprisingly not that long like 739 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: a year or two. Okay, it's a year. Well, I 740 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: mean for most people like living on eighty dollars a 741 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: month for years, but I mean it feels like forever. 742 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: But it didn't feel like that to you. Don't feel 743 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: like that, especially because just like you know, it's like 744 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: eighty and then it's like you hit a certain point 745 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: in the year you're making like two hundred dollars a month. 746 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: But you gotta think about it. That's like a ducking 747 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: upgrading your one. You feel like you damn I'm doing 748 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: something like a month like you feel because you gotta think. 749 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: This is how I used to say. It's my comedian friends, 750 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: I'd be like, nigked if you had someone tell me 751 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 1: this too. They were like, he's at the time Nico 752 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: told me this, so I'm actually stealing from him He's like, 753 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: if you make four dollars a month, that's a metro card. Boom, 754 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: that's a bill paid off jokes, you know what I mean. 755 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: You make a hundred dollars a month, that could be 756 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: dollar slices all month. You know what. It just it 757 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: just adds up and before you know, you're like, oh, 758 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: I'm paying rent, I'm paying for food, real food, metal card, 759 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Before you don't you like 760 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: I could get some sneakers. You're actually making money, you 761 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: got paid taxes. Yeah, Now, there was never a point 762 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: in your career where you thought, nah, no, okay, effects 763 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: so okay, okay, So what piece of advice would you 764 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: give to a comic coming into the game. Just worry 765 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: about being funny. Worry about being funny for real. Just 766 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: do as much stand up as you can. Worry about 767 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: being funny. And if you suck and you're terrible after 768 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: years and years, after like five years, nigga quit now. 769 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: But wait, no, I agree. So I'm just curious now 770 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: that you say that, because I meet guys that are 771 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: like rappers or they think they're they're rappers, you know, 772 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,439 Speaker 1: but passion, but you know, like they're like not good 773 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: rappers and they're at it for like ten years. You know, 774 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 1: you meet that forty five year old guys selling CDs. 775 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: I don't know why guys are still selling CDs on there. 776 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why nobody's playing the CD playing. I 777 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: feel so bad in Los Angeles and they'll be harassing 778 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: signing CDs and I'm like, where are they gonna play this? 779 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: Where are they going to play I haven't seen a 780 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: CD player or DV actually, I don't even know where 781 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: he thinks burn the CDs at record. But when you 782 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: see these forty year old guys that are still rapp 783 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, like I used to have 784 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: a rule, like I wouldnt even date someone in the industry. 785 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to run lines, I didn't want to 786 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: do any of that stuff, you know. But with comedy, 787 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: like even seeing your growth, you were funny, you were 788 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: always funny, but your level of funny right now is 789 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: like I describe Eagle, and it's not because he's my 790 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: baby brother, because I have no problem keeping it real 791 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: with people. Were just avoiding the conversation to not keep 792 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: it real with people. But but when I describe you, 793 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's going to be a legend. He's 794 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: going to be up there with the Richard Priors because 795 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: of the style of comedy, Like, I have no doubt 796 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: like the way you write, and I would love to 797 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: know before we close out, like how you like what 798 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: your writing processes. Like, I don't know if you're eating 799 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: lunch with your girlfriend and she does something quirky and 800 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: you're like me, write about that ship, or or you're 801 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: joking with your homies and then you make a joke 802 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: and then you write it. I would love to know, 803 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: like genuinely, like you asking right now because I thought 804 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: you was gonna say yeah, I I. Well, there's two ways. 805 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: So one way is if we're chilling, were talking and 806 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: I say something funny. I've gotten to a point now 807 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: where I could tell the difference between like funny and 808 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: convo funny and funny that I could actually translate on 809 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: stage and kill with. So if I say something funny 810 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: and convo and it's that level where I could translate 811 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: on stage, I'm like, okay, I'll take that. Also, it 812 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: has to be what I care about talking about, because 813 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: now I'm at a point where I didn't think a 814 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: lot of comedians get to this point most comedians get 815 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: to this point. You get to a point where you're 816 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 1: so good to stand up that you could like make 817 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: anything funny, Like you could be, like, write a joke 818 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: about this napkin, and by the time we get out 819 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: of here, by the time you get done with your 820 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: next interview, I have ten jokes about that napkin, and 821 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: eight of them bitches be funny, but we made challenge them, 822 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: but gone for real, for real. But when you get 823 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: to that point, you start going, I don't want to 824 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: just talk about anything because now it's boring. So you 825 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: very much find the ship you care about and the 826 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: ship that makes you laugh, and the ship that makes 827 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: you go and wonder and think, and you go, I'm 828 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna right about that. So like in convo, if I'm 829 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: talking about something I care about, something that's fun to me, interesting, 830 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: right about that, or like it's popping my head when 831 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm on the train, write it down but it has 832 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: barely Like I don't write the way I used to. 833 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: I used to fill notebooks front and back pages very much, 834 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 1: so like I very much will write down an idea 835 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: and then I go on stage and kind of freestyle it, 836 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: record the set and keep on shaping it and sculpting 837 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: it like Plato, got it, got it all right? All right? Yeah, 838 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if I missed anything, but I will 839 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: tell you this. This is uh, this has been. They 840 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: were saying, I'm the best guest you ever had. That's 841 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: what they were saying. That was what I was looking 842 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: over here. I appreciate you, yo, thank you many did 843 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: they say? That's what they said, I'm the best? He said, 844 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: five minutes left? They said, top five, top ten minutes left. 845 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: Ten minutes left. He said, I what's the time on 846 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: the clock. He said, you got no minutes left? He said, 847 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm the best. Well, thank you so much for uh 848 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: for you know, I've had the dollar slice with you before, 849 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: but thank you, thank you for making my life easier 850 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: and making this an easy dish. This is the brokest 851 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: version because we've got little cups of water with the 852 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: slices and we don't have the hot sauce to fake 853 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: the pepperoni. Yeah the slice is cold. Yeah yeah no, 854 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: but thank you so much. Ego ego with for y'all, 855 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 1: and what's your Instagram ego with official? Thank you Ego 856 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: with official if you guys want to catch Ego with 857 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: You're more than likely going to have to be in 858 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 1: New York. Otherwise you have to go online stalker's Instagram 859 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: find out what city is. I think you can actually 860 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: am him. Oh, I do have one last question. I 861 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: know we're gonna go over time, but confessions your confessions 862 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm not a big Instagram person, but he 863 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: has this thing where you go on Instagram and he 864 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: tells his fans like confessions. I've never seen it before, 865 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: but if you go on Eagles Instagram, his fan base 866 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 1: is absolutely hilarious. It is better than scrolling through Instagram. 867 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: When he opens up his confessions, people will go on 868 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,439 Speaker 1: there admitting crazy stories. But then sometimes his fans will 869 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: interact with the stories and like, a started doing that 870 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: and that has nothing to do with me. That's their 871 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: own creative yes, and it's funny. It'll be like I 872 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: slept with my dad's sister's mom, and then the other 873 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: person would be like, I'm the dad's sister's mom and 874 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: let me tell you, and the stories take a turn 875 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: for the for the best. But I don't think anyone 876 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: has a more creative and open fan base. They'd be 877 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: admitted to like stealing each other boyfriends sleeping with they 878 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: My boy told me, he was like, you need to 879 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: talk show the way people open up to you. I 880 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: promised following you on Instagram like I would say. When 881 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: I see confessions go up, I think it's like what 882 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: every thousand followers or something. That's that's the new thing 883 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 1: I've been doing every thousand followers. I'll do confessions, yes, 884 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: and he'll be like, you know, if you don't know, 885 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: He'll tell them the rules and it is on and popping. 886 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: There is no better day than a confessions day on 887 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: Eagles stories on Instagram. And I'm not even kidding you. 888 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: If you're a fan of like Jerry Springer or any 889 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 1: of the above, it's entertaining, especially when the fans interact 890 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: with each other and they just they like feed off 891 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: the crazy ass stories. Yeah yeah, yeah, So shout out 892 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: you can catch ego with or confessions that ego with 893 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: Official um and thank you so much for being my guests, 894 00:43:47,640 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: New York edition. Piece out y'all for more eating while 895 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: broke from I Heart Radio and The Black Effect, visit 896 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you 897 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.