1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. What's up? And welcome to another Atlanta Falcons podcast. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm your host Will McFadden, joined by Tory nclaney. Tory 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: is just saluting and waving and she's got the summer 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: energy and the good vibes. And you're coming off of 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: a big weekend, Tory, you want to tell everybody why. Yeah. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: So a group of us from the Falcons organization went 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: to the Southeast Emmys Awards this past weekend on Saturday 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: and came home with three Emmys. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Which congratulations, whoo, yeah, that's awesome. 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: Let's go big dub, big dub one for I don't 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: know if people remember, but when Matt Ryan retired, our 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: video team put together a video where he wrote a 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: letter to the city of Atlanta, and it was this 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: really nice video of him and everything encompassing his career 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: in his words. And Matt Ryan was actually on the 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: trophy for that, like they submitted him as a creator 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: for that as they showed. So Matt Ryan is now 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: a ME Award winner. Let's go fun fact for people, 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: first step for the e goot, yeah, let's go Matt Ryan. 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: He got winner. Yeah, wait for that Tony Award winning 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: play coming to you in twenty thirty. 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Seven Get Ready so that one are on the Rise 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: series presented by Delta One, which is something It is 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: a huge endeavor, gosh, week after week, month after month 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: for our video team. They literally whoever the editor is 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: for each individual show, they go down to the editbay 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 2: and we literally don't see them for a week because 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: that's all they're doing. 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: And then I'm like scared of the Editbate, I told, 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: I told Taylor Bismore for the like the other day, 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: I'd actually never been inside of one because I kept 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: hearing about it like they were the covered under the 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: stairs and Harry Potter. It's like, I don't even want 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: to go in there. I'm gonna get trapped. It's scary. Yeah, 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: it's dark and lonely, so I you know, I finally 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: saw one. It's not but they spend a lot of 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: time in there. They do doing amazing work. 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: And then the third and final Emmy award, very close 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: to my heart was the Grady Chair at Year ten 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: Documentary one for Sports Documentary. I was so proud of 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: that for Mark Wating, him and I, I mean, I 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: said on this podcast when we talked about it, like 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: that was such a labor of love, that whole documentary 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: and getting to tell Grady Jarrett's story in a time 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: where we just kind of were like, oh, we're doing 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: this to celebrate ten years in Atlanta, not knowing at 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: the time that it was going to be his last 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: year in Atlanta. And so now even looking back on 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: that project, it's even more meaningful that we were able 50 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: to almost send him to the next part of his 51 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: career to. 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Like close the chapter, yeah, and with a really nice kind. 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: Of fitting boat yeah, and like let him know, like, hey, 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: your loved in Atlanta, regardless of your hair or not. Man. 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: And so I think it was just, you know, we 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: don't do it for the trophies. We don't do any 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: of this, I think for the recognition or anything like that. 58 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: But when you do get the recognition, especially from your peers, 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: like it, it matters. It's meaningful and I'm immensely grateful, 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: and I don't know, just being able to experience that 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: with our team it was just fantastic. So it's a 62 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: great day to be a woman in sports, mug And 63 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: it's because it is. It is a great day to 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: be a woman in sports. And I'm really really proud 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: of the team and really excited for what we're doing next, 66 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: because we do have a lot of things on the docket. 67 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: Yes, but congratulations once again. You know, we talk a 68 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: lot about the football team here and rightfully so, but 69 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: just wanted to take a minute to shout out the 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: digital team of which we are at part and all 71 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: of the incredible work that everybody here does, including yourself. Honestly, 72 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: I thought you were just going to say you won 73 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: the US Open or something based on the way that 74 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: you're dressed. I didn't. I don't even know about them. 75 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: If you were to look at me right now, you're like, Wow, 76 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: she's gonna go get in a quick nine after the 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: podcast is over. That's not true. I don't really play golf. 78 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: I'm just a big, big proponent of golf fashion for women. 79 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Anica Sorenstein over here, all right, yes, but we have 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: a mail bag to get here today we should maybe 81 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: get into the main reason that you guys are here, 82 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: which is to answer some questions. Thank you all to 83 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: everybody who submitted questions, be it on Twitter, still just 84 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: going to keep on saying Twitter, or if you did it, yeah, 85 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: just what it's a letter, get out of here or 86 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: if you did online vir mailbag submission, which you can 87 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: always send it to. We are, you know, discussing potentially 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: other avenues through which you can reach our shows. But 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: that is TVD for now. Toy you ready to answer 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: some questions. 91 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: I am so ready. I love I love when we 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: do a mailbag segment at the Pod. 93 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: It was the perfect time I felt like to do 94 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: one right. Mini camps wrapped up, We've got a long break, 95 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a summer break here, so let's 96 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: tag into the first one. This comes to us from 97 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: at Dan Ski thirty two. He asks, in your opinion, 98 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: do you think Jalen will see Jalen Walker all his 99 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: snaps as an edge or will he take on more 100 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: responsibility as the season goes along? And do you believe 101 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: the combo of Dorles and Zach Harrison at their big 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: end will help with sack production this year? So we'll 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: start with Jayalen Walker first. 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: Jalen Walker, I think even though they have said from 105 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: the moment that they drafted him, he's gonna be primarily 106 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: an ed rusher, and they've really stuck with that. You 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: asked Jeff Ulbrick, You have asked Rahe Morris you ask 108 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: Jalen Walker himself, that's what they're saying. Do I believe 109 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: that for a second? No, personally, it's me. This isn't 110 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: Tory maclanny personally saying. 111 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: This, like You're not wrong, right, like they can and you. 112 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe at the end of the 113 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: season he has only taken predominantly edg rusher snaps in 114 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: a traditional edge rusher role. Maybe I am eating my words. 115 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't think this is gamesmanship. 116 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: Like I do not think that sitting here right now today, 117 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: going into the summer and going into Jaalen Walker's first 118 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: training camp, he may start out very simplistic eddrusher role, 119 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: but I don't think that's where he ends up at 120 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: the end of the season. I think that you go 121 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: out and you get a talent like Jalen Walker, but 122 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: the reason you get him is not solely because of 123 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: what he does as a traditional edge rusher, him because 124 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: of what the versatility he provided in the chess piece 125 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: that he is, like, that's why you value him at 126 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: a number fifteen overall pick. So I think that while 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: it's I understand exactly what they're saying, they don't want 128 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: to overwhelm him they don't want to give him too 129 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: much on his plate in his rookie year. They don't 130 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: want to do all this. They want to kind of 131 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: ease him in and maybe one day they'll add in 132 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: some different looks for him. I think that actually that 133 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: one day comes quicker than what maybe they even think 134 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: it will, because I think when you're looking at Jalen 135 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: Walker and his football IQ and what he's already done 136 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: at Georgia, and the different ways that this roster is 137 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: constructed along the defensive front, and I don't know this 138 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: attack style front that they want to play, there's no 139 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: reason to not, in my opinion, utilize, utilize his talent. 140 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Well, and you're you're completely right, and thank you later, 141 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: Thank you later on. I recently spoke with ESPN's Ben 142 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Solac and I asked him like, literally this question, yeah, 143 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: and he gave a very similar answer. So stay tuned 144 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: for that. You guys can hear that coming on the 145 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: feed a little bit later on. But you and I 146 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: spoke about this on our mini camp kind of wrap 147 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: up podcast, which spoiler alert that's going to prove to 148 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a Rosetta stone for today's 149 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: episode as well. So if you have not heard that 150 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: and you want to press pause, maybe go check that 151 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: one out first, because we touched on a lot of 152 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: great stuff there, and one of the topics was this 153 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: idea of the hybrid style defense, right and the three 154 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: to four which is really a five man front versus 155 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: a four to three. And that's where I kind of 156 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: think you can be both, like both can be true 157 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: with Jalen Walker. I do actually think that because the 158 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: most valuable asset and the most needed asset for this 159 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Falcons defense would be a pass rusher, So it makes 160 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: sense to utilize him their most. He is your highest 161 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: investment in this offseason. He has a really high upside 162 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: in that area, so using there and using there often. 163 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: But when you do maybe go to that four three 164 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: look bring him back into that linebacker spot. That doesn't 165 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: make sense to necessarily just take him off of the 166 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: field right when he can play multiple levels. So I 167 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: do think that he could very well play like sixty 168 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: five percent of his snaps off the edge de seision 169 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: and probably should. That would be a good role for him. 170 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: But I would also love to see thirty five percent 171 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: of those snaps moving all around the field. 172 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because to dam Sky's question. 173 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Damn Ski, let's go Dan Ski. 174 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: In your opinion, do you think Jalen will see all 175 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: of his snaps at edge. The answer to that is no, 176 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: I do not think that. And I think that something 177 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: that I know Jeff Ulbrick is really cognizant of is 178 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be like just this gimmicky defense. 179 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to And when you have someone like 180 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: Cayden Ellis, who already lends to kind of this like 181 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: hybrid role in and of himself that we saw him 182 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: have a lot of success with last year and even 183 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: his last year with the New Orleans Saints organization, you 184 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: don't want to do too much of that gimmick yess, right, 185 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: because then it becomes. 186 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: Well, just think about last year when they started using 187 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: Cayden in that different way, they started losing the games. 188 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: Like That's the thing is I think what Jeff is 189 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: getting at is that when you have to start creating 190 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: with scheme ways to manufacture pressure ground quarterback, you have 191 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: to give up something somewhere else, right, And if you're 192 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: able to just generate with your players, you can scheme 193 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: for other elements and allow your players to then execute 194 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: and win because of their own natural ability and dominance 195 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: and kind of traits like that. So I kind of 196 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: think that's where he was getting at, and last season 197 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: you kind of saw that that may have been they 198 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: tried that approach early on, and then it was like, 199 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: we gotta get Cayden unlocked here a little bit, and 200 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: we got to start amping up the simulated pressures. We 201 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: got to start dropping Matthew Judaan into coverage a little 202 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: bit more because we're bringing Cayden. So it's kind of 203 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: where you get into. 204 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: That, and you do have the trade off of if 205 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: you're not if you're bringing Cayden up. You know, at 206 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: the time you had nothing against Nate Laman, but he's 207 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: not really someone that you want in coverage too often. 208 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: So now you have a little bit personnel has changed 209 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: a little bit with Divine Diabolo. Like I do think 210 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: that to the point of scheme versus players. It's why 211 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: I think we have heard so much about having this 212 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: like proactive attacking front where they're not sitting back and waiting. 213 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: Kind of the conversation we talked about being proactive, not 214 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: reactive upfront, having your players just go win their one 215 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: on ones. If you have your guys winning your one 216 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: on ones. I don't really care like because that like, 217 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: at that point, if JPJ is getting after getting the 218 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: quarterback off of his spot once every two to three plays, cool, 219 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: sounds good. 220 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Well, and it's going to allow you also to play 221 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: a more aggressive style on the boundary, which we know 222 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Hulbrick likes to do. He played a little bit 223 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: more man than the Falcons did last year, and they 224 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: were playing this off zone coverage, partially because I think 225 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: that they they needed to blanket the receivers to give 226 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: the pass rush time as opposed to will jam and 227 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: disrupt and if if we lose them after that, there's 228 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: some risk associated with that. But we trust that our 229 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: pass rush in the time that we're jamming and disrupting 230 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: that route, they're going to get home. 231 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: Well. That was something that I specifically talked to my 232 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: cues about because I was like, how can this front 233 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: in this new year? How is it different? How do 234 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: you think from a scheme perspective, from a mentality perspective, 235 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: how do you feel like it's different. How do you 236 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: feel like this helps you guys in the back end? 237 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: And he said this exact same thing. He's like, it's timing. Yep. 238 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: He was like, it's not allowing the receivers to get 239 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: to the top of the route because the quarterback is 240 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: having to make a decision well before then he was like, 241 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: that helps us. That allows us to maybe get some 242 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: more hands on the ball, Like that allows us to 243 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: maybe cover up some routes. So I to your point, 244 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: it all plays in off of each other, and it's 245 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: all something that I think these players are cognizant of. 246 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: Yep. So two players who are going to be playing 247 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: off of each other and the rest of the defensivelyne 248 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Dorlesac Harrison. Do we think that those two if 249 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: they're being situated as kind of these like Big five 250 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: technique and is that more for run defense or do 251 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: you think that that is by design to get this 252 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: pass rush going. 253 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: I do think that if I'm just thinking about it 254 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: and having seen what I think Zach Harrison put on 255 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: tape last year, And granted he was in a bit 256 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: more of a different role, a bit more of a 257 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: traditional interior guy. That's what they wanted him as with 258 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: this It's going to be a bit more fluid for 259 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: him in this year, in this game. But I really 260 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: liked what I saw from him in his run defense, 261 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: and I think the reason why you kind of have 262 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: him as this big in type of role is to 263 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: set that edge to make sure a running back can't 264 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: bounce it to the outside. So that to me is like, yes, 265 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: it's everything. The goal is obviously going to be for 266 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: this this defense. No, there is literally no andsifts or 267 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: butts about it is pass rush. You had to put 268 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: everything you had into pass rush in order to get 269 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: even to the middle quartale of the. 270 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: League and pass rush stats. 271 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: But I think what we're actually going to see, especially 272 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: with this Zach Harrison specifically Brandon Doyles is a bit 273 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: more of a question mark to me because we haven't 274 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: really seen him all that much. I feel like I 275 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: know a lot more about Zach Harrison in the way 276 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: that he performed as a run stopper last year. 277 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you think of Zach Harrison, there are like 278 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: five plays that immediately come to mind. Right when you 279 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: think of Brandon Dorlys, it's a little bit. 280 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: Fuzzier, right exactly. So I think for if Brandon Dorles 281 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: is following along in this like Zach Harrison, mold, then okay, yes, 282 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: I get it, and I but I will say that 283 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: even though everything we're talking about is past rush, this 284 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: is still a defense that has to stop the run too. 285 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,119 Speaker 1: Like you know, like you can't. 286 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: You can't have one without the other because then one's 287 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: going to get taken advantage of. 288 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: Because the reason the pass rush also benefited last year 289 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: was better performance first and second down exactly, So you 290 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: got those all married together. 291 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: And I do think that Zach Harrison was a big 292 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: part of that. And I think that to me is 293 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: why even though yes, we're talking about Zach production, we're 294 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: talking about all that kind of stuff, perhaps in run defense, 295 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: in run stopping ability, that matters even maybe a little 296 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: bit more, yes. 297 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: One percent. I will also add, just with kind of 298 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: the run fits in the way you're playing defense, if 299 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: you if they do get to a point where they 300 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: are manufacturing with some of this creativity and they're moving 301 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: guys around, and let's say you've got Jayalen Walker outside 302 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: of Zach Harrison and they kind of loop and twist 303 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: to have that, you want to be able to bake 304 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: in at least a level of comfort with the run 305 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: if you are still moving guys after the snap. So 306 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Zach Harrison could be a good pass rusher off the edge. 307 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: He's also a great run setter that can play inside. 308 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: So having him and Brandon Dorles, my favorite thing about 309 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: him coming out Oregon was just three technique, one technique, 310 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: five techniques, seven tech. It's everywhere. We're just like using 311 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: him all over the place and he was effective. So 312 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: I like both of those guys. Really interested to see 313 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: them this year. But next question comes from at Xander 314 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: Stickland not Strickland. You got me there? Do we think 315 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: it's Xander or Exander? Like, okay, Xander not xa No. 316 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well that's the thing is like with the 317 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: Xavier Watts. 318 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: I know. That's why I'm asking, Like. 319 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: Some people call him Xavier. Some people call him Xavier. 320 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: I need to like ask him that, right, So Xander 321 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: Xander asks, are there any free agents or trades you 322 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: could see the Falcons pursuing or do you feel the 323 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: roster is pretty set going into the season. 324 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna whisper this, but Kirk Cousins right, like, he's 325 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: the trade He's the trade option. He's the one that 326 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: you're always gonna kind of pencil in, You're always gonna 327 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: pull a little asterisk beside because nothing's changed. You know, 328 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: he's still an option, and I think you're whit again. 329 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: It's every conversation we've had this offseason, it's when is 330 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: a quarter a team gonna need a quarterback? 331 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's he's on the proverbial trade block, right right. 332 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: It's like everybody's aware that if if you need a team, 333 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons would be on the short list of teams 334 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: that you would call. 335 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: Right. 336 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: It's it's same way where if we're looking at the draft, 337 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: when the Falcons had five picks and we were looking 338 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: at teams where maybe if you're going to try to 339 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: accrew more, you naturally look at the teams that have 340 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: eleven picks or ten picks, not the teams that have 341 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: like six picks. Yeah. 342 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: So if we're not talking about Kirk, maybe. 343 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: Any external like if they're going to Justin Simmons, Matthew 344 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: Judhon route, do you see any guys that make sense 345 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: maybe still available? 346 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to think of like a. 347 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: Maybe Justin Simmons from Matthew Jude on themselves maybe. 348 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: But I something that I think we have spoken about 349 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: that's flying under the radar a little bit this off 350 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: season is the wide receiver position, yep. And we know 351 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: Drake Glennon, we know Darnel Mooney, right, Ray McLeod. Cadarrel 352 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: Hodge has become this kind of jack of all trades guy, 353 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: special teams guy that the front office just a hodgepodge, 354 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: just a hodgepodge of Cadaryl Hodge and he like Sore, 355 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: those are your kind of core core four. But there 356 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: are also some like free agents that I undrafted free 357 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: agents that I think a lot of people are excited about. 358 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: But I also think that you're constantly with that fourth 359 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: or fifth receiver, You're constantly looking outside to see who 360 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: could maybe come in and provide special teams relief. You know, 361 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: there's also this whole idea of the Falcons. Now that 362 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: Avery Williams is no longer on this team, Who's you know, 363 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: punt returning, Who's kickoff return? 364 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Like I think Jamal Agnew I probably the pencil in 365 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, they always like they did with with ron 366 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: No Moore. 367 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, always kind of think about that bottom part of 368 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: the roster churning. And I think like that's the part 369 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: of if we're looking at free agents, like some wide 370 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: receiver free agents, some like core special teams free agents 371 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: like those are the ones that I think from now 372 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: until the point of training camp, you would. 373 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: For sure looking same like with day three of the 374 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: drag you always look at Okay, yeah, they played special 375 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: teams all for special teams units. They had a thousand 376 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: kick return yards. Yeah, that's going to make it more valuable. 377 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: But that's the team right, Like and maybe like a sinner, 378 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: you know, I know we're talking about Ryan News little 379 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: like being the guy and there's no hands if we're 380 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 2: butts about that. But if you know, something happens to 381 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: where you could bring in some extra competition to that position, 382 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: maybe you want to do that for camp or even 383 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: later on. I think that It's what's funny is I 384 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: do feel like the roster is pretty set going into 385 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: training camp. Yep. So all of these like little positions 386 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: that we're talking about, outside of Kirk Cousins of course 387 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: because he's an outlier, but all these other positions are 388 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: just kind of like for depth or for you know, 389 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: pull shoot in case of emergency. 390 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Type of thing. Yeah, I'm trying to think back. It 391 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: does feel like this has been one of the most 392 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: just intentional but like sparse off seasons in terms of 393 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: just acquisition in some ways, like the most notable moves 394 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: were the departures, but that's not Sometimes when that is 395 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: the case, it would signal a bad offseason. I think 396 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: this was a good offseason for Atlanta because I think 397 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: that slowly but surely, if you look at the big 398 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: pull out four year projects, the roster has slowly been 399 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: getting kind of a step at a time in the 400 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: right direction. And we talked about this last year, you know, 401 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: with none of the rookies being on that opening day 402 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: depth chart, and it's like, that's a sign of the 403 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: strength that you have in building that depth because two 404 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: years ago it was it was like all rookies and 405 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: it was Doron Harmon on a one year deal, and 406 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: it was you know, a kind of piecemealed roster. And 407 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: so now, yeah, you feel like you're in a better 408 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: spot and you just really needed to go out and 409 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: add a few of those key guys. So sure I 410 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: think they could, you know, potentially always add like another 411 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: I don't even know. Yeah, it's like a thing like 412 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be like corner, no nickel, certainly, no linebacker, 413 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: no do I know, wide receiver maybe, But this is 414 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: an offense that only like it's Puka and it's Cooper Cup, 415 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: Like those are your two thousand yard receivers and they're not. 416 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: This is kind of like the Bucks offense where it's 417 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: Mike Evans and it's Chris Godwin. So like you got 418 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: Darnell and you got Drake, you got Kyle Pitts, you 419 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: got John Robinson, you got Tyler ol Cheer. That's a 420 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: lot of mouths to feed. Do you need to go 421 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: get Keenan Allen? Probably not? 422 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: You know, ye, well that's my thing is I was like, 423 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: this is like I feel like we're kind of uh, 424 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: philibustering this like the answer to this question. 425 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: But I think I'm giving We're given great answer. 426 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: I think that it's truly like there isn't really a 427 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: lot of needs like at this point in time until 428 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: injuries set in, which that was that was kind of 429 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: I know Terry von and Overheimoora said that wasn't the case, 430 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: that like they had Justin Simmons and Matthew Judon that 431 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: they already in the back of their mind. But I 432 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: think the injuries too Braylin Tries and DeMarco Helms and 433 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: when they happened like that, does it change your direction, 434 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: and I think right, and I think it accelerates maybe 435 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: conversation for sure, And I think so maybe we're having 436 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: a different conversation in training camp or even the first 437 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: part of the season. But at this point in time, 438 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: right now, I'm kind of cool letting things lie for 439 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: this summer. 440 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeap, I totally agree. And I think you keep whatever 441 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: reservoir you have for any unforeseen instances. So totally agree 442 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: with you there. I think that that is kind of 443 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: the approach. Never know if any late training camp moves 444 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: will happen again, but we just at this point, who knows. 445 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: We're cool, So we're just hanging. We're batting. 446 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Next question comes from at Falcons playbr and it basically says, 447 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: what position battles are you most looking forward to in 448 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: training camp? 449 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: To that, I say, go listen to the forty minutes 450 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: of podcasting that we did last week where we talked 451 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: about exactly this, which position battles that we were most 452 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: excited to see in training camp in I'll do you 453 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: give it? Yeah, just a real quick, really quick one 454 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: safety yep, Nicol, there you go, and Ed Rusher and 455 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: then also maybe a little bit I'll throw this in. 456 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: We didn't talk about this the last time, but I'll 457 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: throw it in as a new one or not a 458 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: new one, but Divine Diablo Troy Anderson and what they 459 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: the Falcons ultimately decide to do there. Troy Anderson returning 460 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: from injury. Divine Diablo, I think is the guy penciled 461 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: in right now. But can Troy Anderson kind of make 462 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: a I mean when he's played, he hasn't played that often, 463 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: but when he's played. 464 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: He's been defensive Player of the Week. 465 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's had meaningful moments when he when we've 466 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: seen him. The problem is is we haven't seen him 467 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: that often because of injuries or what have you. So 468 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: the Divine Diablo Troy Anderson conversation for it is another 469 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: one that I would add to the conversation that we 470 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: already had previously last week. 471 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so go go check out that podcast. I will 472 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: add that. One I'm looking forward to is who's going 473 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: to come away with lead ball Boy. I've got my 474 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: eye on a couple of candidates. I'm going to keep 475 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: you guys really up to date on that one. 476 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: Are you throwing your hat into the ring? 477 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: Oh god, no, I can't do what they can do. 478 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: Have you seen these guys. They're incredible. 479 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: I yeah, I try not to re. 480 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: Like red Lightning's just all over the place out there, 481 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: it's crazy. One other that kind of pairs back to 482 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: our conversation at the end of mini camp has to 483 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: do with safety. This comes from at Hughes Alfred. It says, 484 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: it seems like we might have a small logjam at 485 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: safety with Fuller Watts. Hellam's how do we think it's 486 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: going to work out? How do we think it'll kind 487 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: of play out throughout the season, both beginning and then 488 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: later on. We touched on that again kind of last week, 489 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: so go check that out. But the third part of 490 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: this question that I want to dig into a little 491 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: bit here is what do we think a dream scenario 492 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: would be for this position group? And we can kind 493 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: of start by like, what is that question even getting at. 494 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Is it a dream scenario for the group itself in 495 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, overall performance within the defense, or 496 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: is it more like a certain player shining or stepping up, 497 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: or how things play out? How do you want to 498 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: choose to answer this question? 499 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: So for me, I think it's it's collectively how they're 500 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: performing as a group. Yes, but that hinges upon one name, 501 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: and that's Xavier Watts. Okay, And what I want to 502 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: get at with this dream scenario is, you know who 503 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: Jesse Bates is. I have no qualms. Jesse Bates is 504 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: already a dream scenario just in general. He is the dream. 505 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: So that is what it is. The part of it 506 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: that I think would make it even better dream and 507 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 2: even more beautiful dream is if Xavier Watts within the 508 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 2: first six weeks of his rookie year shows us mirror 509 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: image of what Jesse Bates was when he was young. 510 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: And I think that. 511 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna ask him to be Jesse 512 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: Bates in six weeks. I was like, Wow, absolutely not. 513 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking like, show us like that's his player comp 514 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: his player come coming out of Notre Dame, his player 515 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: camp throughout the entire pre draft. The player that he 516 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: said he mimics his game after is Jesse Bates. 517 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: So can the first two steps on the beach of 518 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: your NFL career be the same footprints in the sand 519 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: as Jesse. 520 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: And I think if that happens, you will see that 521 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 2: continue to unlock Jesse Bates, continue to unlock what the 522 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: Falcons are doing outside corner with Aj Trail and Mike Cues, 523 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: and I just think if you get Exavier Watts playing 524 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: at a high level very early on, that is a 525 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: dream scenario not only for this year and his pairing 526 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: with Jesse Bates in this first year together, but also 527 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: who Xavier Watts could be yep, two, three, four years 528 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: down the road. And so that to me is the 529 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: dream scenario because you know the production Jesse Bates has. 530 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: If Xavier Watts, to your point, is just like following 531 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: along in his footsteps and he mirrors what Jesse Bates 532 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: was in Jesse bates first or second year, I'll take 533 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: that that is the dream scenario. 534 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a great one. I think for me 535 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more if guys can find specialized 536 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: roles in this first year or in the Marco Helms case, 537 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: year three, and you maybe find your key one in 538 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates and he's on the field every single play, 539 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: but then around him, and if it's Jordan Fuller kind 540 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: of operating in a more traditional safety role next to him, 541 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: or it's Xavier Watts, sure, but if you can find 542 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: a very key specific niche for de Marco Heellum's a 543 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: nice role for either Fuller or Watts and almost have 544 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: kind of this the way you could match an offense 545 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: the way we think about with a front seven, kind 546 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: of like, oh, they're going big at the goal line, 547 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: so now we're going big. Or now they've got you know, 548 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: they're spreading out, so we're going smaller and we've got 549 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: all those If you can really play with that at 550 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: the next at the safety level too, I think that 551 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: that is going to take this defense to its maximum 552 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: capacity creatively on the back end. So that would be 553 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: a dream scenario for me. Is more, can you identify 554 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: those clear roles and do they play off of each 555 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: other almost like a good basketball team? 556 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: Love it? 557 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: Yep. So let's get to our next question. This is 558 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: from at atl underscore some mer to for zero one, 559 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: and we're going back to the defensive line. What do 560 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: we foresee Zach here person's role being in this defense? 561 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: And is it fair to assume that he will get 562 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: significantly more snaps than he did in his first two years? 563 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: So I'll start with the second part of that question, 564 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: because I think. 565 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: He's around like three hundred and twenty Yeah SAPs last year. 566 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: Double check I know, go check that and go see 567 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: what his average was like per game, because I think 568 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: that it's actually his first year was what it was, 569 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: but I think his second year he actually had more 570 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: impactful moments and was playing more snaps like I. So 571 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: in terms of like, I also think that the best 572 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: defensive fronts to me sometimes are the ones that mimic 573 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: hockey lines. I'm watching a lot of the Stanley Cup 574 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: go Cats right now, so I'm thinking a lot about hockey, 575 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: but how they do have, like their rotations and guys 576 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: coming off of the bench, like that's how some of 577 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: the best I think defensive fronts and most elaborate defensive 578 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: fronts are operating. And so to me, it's like, do 579 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: we think we'll see Carrison more than what we saw 580 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: him last year? I do think yes, because I think 581 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna need him a bit more and you have 582 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: more of a a more of a specific role for 583 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: him this year in terms of being a playmaker for 584 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: this defense. So the answer is yes, but it's not 585 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: like an astronomical yes. It's not a yes where I'm 586 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: sitting here being like Zach Harrison is going to play 587 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: in seventy five percent of the defensive snaps every single 588 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: game because I don't think that's it. 589 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: So he played two hundred and sixty eight snaps last season, 590 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: really twenty four percent of the defensive snaps. 591 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's up. 592 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: Then in year one, he played like three hundred and 593 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: forty something snaps and that was about thirty percent of 594 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: the defensive snaps. So he actually took actually take down 595 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: in but he switched inside. And again I think the 596 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: defense interesting. Obviously there are a lot of changes. Ryan 597 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: Nielsen gone, Jimmy likeke In like, the defense was totally 598 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: differ So that happens sometimes, especially with the young player. 599 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: It's interesting because I feel like he was more impact 600 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: Maybe this is why I thought he played more, because 601 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: he was more impactful last year than I thought he 602 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: was in his first year. 603 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Probably a really good like efficiency. Yeah, like when he 604 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: was out there, good things were happening, and so it's 605 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: like put him out there, right. So yeah, I think 606 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: this year we would love to see an uptick in 607 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: that usage, and I think he's earned it. I think again, 608 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: more familiarity between the coaching staff and him and kind 609 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: of his familiarity with the scheme of what's being asked 610 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: to him. I know it's changing a little bit to 611 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: a tax style. But Jack Harrison is kind of the 612 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: type of player that can, I think, do a lot 613 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: of different things, and he has a really interesting body type. 614 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: He might just be a player who his career is 615 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: defined by the versatility and usage a little bit like 616 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: Brandon Dorls and he just moves around everywhere. So let's 617 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: go ahead and kind of wrap up quickly here with 618 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: our last two. This one comes from or from at 619 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: landon Costro sleeper impact player for next season. One on offense, 620 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: one on defense. 621 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: All right, one on offense. This is not a sleeper, 622 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: but Darnell Mooney I said last year going into training camp, 623 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: I was like, put Darnell Mooney on your fantasy team 624 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: because I think that he's going to be very impactful 625 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: and he's going to give you a lot of points. 626 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: And I'm happy to report that he did. And I 627 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: do think that I know we're talking a lot. I 628 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: wrote about this in the mail bag this past week, 629 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: but we're talking a lot about Drake London's connection with 630 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: Michael Pennings Junior. We need to be talking about Darnell 631 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: Mooney's connection with him just as much because I think 632 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: that Darnell Mooney is going to go and he's going 633 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: to be an impact player in twenty twenty five in 634 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: the same vein that he was in twenty twenty four. 635 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: So that's my offense. Do you want to since I 636 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: took offense, do you want to take defense or do 637 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: you want me to give a defensive one. 638 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Dara, let me give Let me give a couple on offense, actually, 639 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to decide in real time between these 640 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: two and maybe you can help me figure it out. 641 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: One is Matthew Bersroun. 642 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost said Matthew Bersron. 643 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Okay, then let's just let's see. Matthew Berron will be 644 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: my pick. I think he's I think he's definitely going 645 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: to be a impact player. I almost toyed with Chris Blair, 646 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: but that's a real like sleeper pick for me because 647 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure roster status and stuff like that. 648 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, he looks good. He looked in mini camp 649 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: physically just like you look. You look in the best 650 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: safe of his life coming to training camp Newslash Defense defense. 651 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: I think Mike Hes, Mike Hughes, Everyone's going to everyone's 652 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: going to talk about this, this defensive front. Everyone's going 653 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: to talk about AJ Trail. Everyone's going to talk about 654 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: Jesse Bates, everybody's going to talk about these rookies. Mike 655 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: Ces I thought had a good year last year when 656 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: he was healthy. I thought he was putting up numbers 657 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: and percentages that were very close to what AJ Trell 658 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 2: and Ajterrell as Harold is one of the best corners 659 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: in the game right now. I thought Mike Hughes held 660 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: his own as CB two, and for the first time 661 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: in a very very long time, in the first time 662 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: in AJ Traill's career, he has a running mate that 663 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: was the same as the year previous and on the 664 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: opposite side of him. And I think that Mike Q's 665 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: held his own. I think he was a sleeper. I 666 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: don't think he got enough credit for what he did 667 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: last year, and I think that that's why I'm kind 668 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: of picking him to carry over into twenty twenty five 669 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: as someone that we haven't had a chance to talk 670 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: a lot about. 671 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: Perfect. Yeah, No, that's a great pick. I would have 672 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: said Divine Diablo maybe three weeks ago, but I feel 673 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: like we've bumped him into like the properly rated category. Yeah. So, 674 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: I think Brandon Dorles Marco hellum's two young guys. Again, 675 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm really having a trouble on today, but it's a 676 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: great one. 677 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: It could be a good one. 678 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's these young guys. There's a lot of 679 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: young guys who were waiting to see which ones just 680 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: take that next step. And that's why I think sleeper 681 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: is hard to pick on defense because there's like five 682 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: or six guys that really fit that bill. And if 683 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: they get four of them that climb to that level, awesome, 684 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: the defense doing great. If one of them does, then 685 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: maybe things aren't going the way you want. So last 686 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: one comes from Ethan Burrow, first time training camp attendee 687 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: later this summer. Any tips that I need to know 688 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: before going sunscreen? 689 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: Put a lot of sunscreen on yourn again. Yes, bring 690 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: a lot of water because it's hot. We're in Flowery Branch, 691 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: Georgia and the sun is beating down. It is the 692 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: middle of August and it is schwarm. 693 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: And they're football fields. They're not trees on the football year. 694 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: So there's no shade sunlight, So make sure that you 695 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: bring a hat. I'm a big hat girly case in point, 696 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: so that would be my recommendation. 697 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: Water, sunscreen, I wish I could bring my house to 698 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: training camp. You just sit inside and yeah, just sit 699 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: on my front ports exactly in a rock and chair. 700 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be lovely. 701 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: No, that's all great. Like, honestly, I'm a big like 702 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: wear long sleeves if you've got lightweight, just kind of like. 703 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: I like that as I get older. 704 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: Another one, Bring binoculars. Yeah, but I so back during COVID, 705 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 2: all of media had to sit on top of the hill, 706 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: which is where all the fans sit right now, and 707 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: I could never see the defensive tackles working because they 708 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: work on the absolute farthest part of the field from 709 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: where you sit. So bring binoculars so that you can 710 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: those roster. 711 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, a roster before you come. Try to do it 712 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: just as early as as in the processes you can 713 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: because they get updated. Get here early. Parking can be tough. 714 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes there's plenty of space, but you may just have 715 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: to travel a little bit further or shorter depending on 716 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: when you get here. So if you want to park, 717 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: we'll be close to the fields, get here a little 718 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: bit earlier. But it's a blast. Come out. It's gonna 719 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: be so much fun. We're really excited to have fans 720 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: to come. 721 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: Back here, right. Fans didn't get to be there last 722 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: year and because of all the construction that was happening 723 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: at Flower Branch, and I know I missed it. It 724 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: was one of those things when we came back from 725 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 2: COVID in the first year that fans were back after COVID. 726 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: I remember sitting there and being like, this is what 727 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 2: training camp is. Getting to talk to you guys. Also 728 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: say hi, Will and I will be roaming around the sidelines. 729 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: Just give us a wave, give us a piece of 730 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people to Tory last year. 731 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: It was great. Nobody was saying Will, nobody, but it 732 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: was great. 733 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: Thank you, Will, I appreciate it. I think you said, like, 734 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: make sure and yell at Tory, and there were some people. 735 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: That, yeah, do it again again. I don't yell at me. 736 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, yell toy. But thank you guys so 737 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: much for you your questions. We really enjoy whenever we 738 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: get to do a mailback episode and interact with y'all. 739 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: It's it's really truly great to be able to touch 740 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: base and check in with with all of you. So 741 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: please send them in more and we will let you 742 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: know if and when we set up a better system 743 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: for this so we can be in constant communication. But 744 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: like we said, we'll be here every Thursday until training camp. 745 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: So next week we're gonna be filling out some brackets, 746 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: which brackets you say, TVD be tuned. But until then, 747 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: everybody for Tory mclanney and Will McFadden. We'll see you 748 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: next time.