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Because you know we're gonna be there. We're 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:39.400 gonna do a live show. We'll probably have a meet 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.160 up or three. It's gonna be great. You really should go. Okay, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:01:05.119 we'll talk to you then bye. Hey there, and welcome 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.920 to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I am Steve as 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:14.280 always joined by Devine, and once again we've got a 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:19.640 mysterious story for you. Yeah, this is creepy. It's a 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:25.520 creepy cryptid Yeah, this one that this oh what is 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.680 the WrestleMania that you smell? But I'm cooking. Yeah, that's 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.480 not gonna work in this episode, because this is a 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.800 stinky critter. I also have no idea what you're talking about. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.520 So well, it was twelve when I watched WrestleMania, so 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.840 it's been a long time that the appropriate rates here 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.520 all of the angry email. Well, this week we are 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.920 going to talk about a cryptid, and we're going to 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.080 talk about a cryptod that I think a lot of 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:57.960 people have probably not heard of before. No different, noman, no, no, no, no, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:05.360 it's the mocking waw mopping. I'm gonna probably mispronounce it 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.800 every time I say, well, I'm just going to really 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:12.440 creatively avoid even saying at once. Okay, Well, the mopping 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:18.640 Wari is a creature that is said to live in 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:23.760 the Amazon Rainforest, mostly in the northern part of South America, 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.760 so Brazil, Peru, Colombia, Bolivia, kind of that general tom 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.480 portion of the that continent. If that confuses you when 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.560 you look at the map, it's a fat part, yes, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.000 it's South America. Was a drumstick that would be the 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.320 part with the meat, yes, yes, the part part, not 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.480 the sticky part. Yes. Uh So the locals in that 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.400 area have been telling each other stories for generations about 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.240 this creature, and when the Europeans came to South America, 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.200 they very happily told them about the mopping Wari as well. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.840 So let's this is a different creater. So let's just 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.520 kind of start at the beginning. Let's start with what 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.880 does it look like? I just want to sidetrack immediately 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.240 and tell you that my favorite thing about this part 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.760 of the world is that there are literally so many 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.560 different species of things that we genuinely have not discovered yet, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.000 and so the idea of cryptids and things like that, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.600 I just love. And I also extra love when the 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.480 white people came down there and the natives were like, listen, 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.079 this is the thing we know. They were like, that's 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.840 not like anything I've ever sat heard. Absolutely, that's a 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:36.440 fake thing. What stop pulling my leg? There's nothing in 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.760 my pocket? Yeah no, I I so I don't know. 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:44.120 I immediately love the story immediately. Well okay, I feel validated, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.560 thank you. Okay. Well, let's uh, let's just like I said, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.560 start with the beginning, which is what is the mopping 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.640 Oar look like. I just want to say I like 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:56.320 the story too good. Well, you know, it's okay. I mean, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.440 it's it's a it's a gradia. It's graduated scale. As 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.000 long as we all kind of like it, we're okay. Yeah. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:07.800 Typically our creature is described as traveling around on four legs, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:13.040 but it has been said to stand when it's standing 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.000 on its rear legs, stands somewhere between seven to nine 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.760 ft tall. That converts to to to two and three 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:25.920 quarter meters. No, not short at all. We're not really 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.800 sharing what the creature weighs because nobody's ever found one, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.840 so they can't ever get an accurate guess on its weight. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.320 And to be honest, I mean, you know, really, when 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.000 all you can see is what it stands like in 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.120 the jungle, you're probably not too worried about its weight. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.840 You're probably worried about oh my god, that's a big 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.240 giant from it actually running away by this point, even 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.400 looking at it anymore exactly. The skin of the bopping 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:53.200 Warrie is said to be super tough. It's described as 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.480 being so tough that it is impervious to both arrows 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.680 and bullets. This particular cryptod is covered in a very 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.360 thick coat of hair all over its entire body, and 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.720 that hair is sometimes described as like that. I have 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.200 you guys seen the photos of the tail of the 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:16.600 giant ant eaters. Yeah, yeah, and that hair looks I 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:21.960 don't know, it's giant locks of hair, that's what. Apparently 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.599 this creature is covered in that length of hair. Something 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:29.480 in that range that's fairly rare and wild animals and 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.320 it well depending well, okay, in high altitude animals, you 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:39.159 would expect that density of hair and the range forest. 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.920 But then again we gotta be careful of Okay, just 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.440 because the hair is long doesn't mean it's dead. Well, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.159 I guess the length is the thing already. That's throwing 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.000 me off, because I would agree that, you know, high altitude, 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.920 you'd want dense, but you wouldn't want long because it 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:59.040 would catch all the snow and freeze and get clumpy. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:03.000 You want dead short hair. So really, there's no good 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.440 reason for an animal to have long hair like that, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.240 because it's pretty much always good for in almost any 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.320 pretty just pretty much just gonna get really awful and 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.840 hinder them. It's not good, and they have to be 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:21.919 sheered regularly. Does not always proceed in a rational manner. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.120 A lot of people try to, you know, believe that 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.960 it does, but not necessarily. Yeah. Well, in the hair 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.719 on this particular creature, the coloring is debatable. Some people 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.880 will say that it is reddish in color. Others will 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.560 say that is more of a black colors. We don't 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.360 have an exact and with cryptids it's always like this, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.520 so I'm not really thrown off a lot of times 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.760 it matters on the lighting that people have, Truman or 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.440 you know, maybe they're like people and they just have 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:55.120 different colored hair. Absolutely, absolutely, the most animals do. Yeahue 0:06:56.040 --> 0:07:02.279 The hair though, apparently needs to be washed because the 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:08.720 mopping warri is a stinky, stinky, stinky critter. Uh yeah, 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.360 it by accounts of locals, you know that it has 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.720 arrived by your nose sensing it before you actually see 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.920 or hear it show up. How do you know that 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.960 these are just like, you know, hippies? I really, I 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.560 was really thinking, man, it's just one of those seventies hippies. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.920 But then I realized the story went way back. This 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.440 is where the hippies came from. The hippie the hippie 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.880 origins sounded. No, I don't think that's it, But I 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.400 do enjoy the stories that I've read from locals that 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.560 talk about the mopping Warri showing up and they're hiding, 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.880 and as it gets closed for the smell gets stronger 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.760 and stronger until it is so strong and overwhelms them 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.920 and they pass out. I'm just I find it really funny. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.440 I mean, it takes a really strong smell to make 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.240 somebody just pass out. It does, it does. And we'll 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.400 talk about the reasons of why that might quote unquote 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.920 be happening. But it would make sense to me if 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.360 they had long hair in the rainforest, if the sweat 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.960 that was coming off of them and then the general 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:20.000 stank of being dirty in general was all getting j yeah, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:24.600 or you know, berries and stuff getting stuck in there, yeah, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.800 I mean, or sliding through it, you know it, and 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.160 then it just gets all stuck in the fur and 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.160 just forments, yep, yep, you don't want to get on 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.200 that slipping slide terrible. According to legend, the mopping Wari 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.400 has really really big claws on both its front and 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.120 its rear feet. And speaking of the feet, there is 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.040 something that is described about its rear feet that is 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:53.240 strange and it took me a while to sort out, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.439 and that is that the description of its rear feet 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.800 typically says in the accounts that they were backward facing, 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.600 and initially I thought, well, that's weird. It's front feet 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.760 facing forward and its back feet are facing completely backwards. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.640 It doesn't make any sense. But what I started doing 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.240 some research. What I figured out is that there are 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:19.200 some animals that have really large claws, like let's say 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.640 the sloth modern day slaws, they have really long claws. Well, 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.640 those are meant for hanging onto trees and branches and 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.880 traveling around in that arboreal forest, but if they're on 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.560 the ground, it's terrible for walking. So what they end 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.960 up doing is kind of curling their claw underneath their 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.959 foot walk on the clause. Yeah, they kind of walk 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.000 on the claw and the side of their foot. Yeah, 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.480 like in that very cute sloth picture that devon is 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.920 now waving around. So it's it's very strange, but it's 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.920 kind of a if you if you took your hand 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.960 and you took your fingers and you folded them under 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:00.760 and then rolled your hand onto the side slash heel, 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.640 That's that's kind of what they're They're walking on the 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:08.240 side of their face pointed backwards. It feels kind of like, um, 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.520 like your when your nails get really long. I know 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.400 all of you have this happened to you a the time. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.120 But if your nails, imagine your nails were really really 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.480 long and you're trying to crawl, your nails were like 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.679 getting stuck, so they'd be pulling your feet like kind 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.520 of backwards. That's what that looks like to me, which 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.480 is I think a symptom. A symptom of that is 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.440 the curling them under there. Either way, they're not actually 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.960 backwards facing, so like that. But that's a weird thing. Yeah, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.839 it is still weird, I guess unique. Yes, it's got 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:42.719 two front ends possible. Yeah, that's like, so what it 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.920 stands as high and lace. It's really doing a handstanding 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.680 and standing out both at the same time. So there's 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.120 all kids of strange things about this critter. Another strange 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.600 thing about the mopping wire is it's face, which is 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.720 this is up for a lot of debate. Some people 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:03.520 say that the face is like a hairy humanoid face 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:08.400 or a monkey ish face, you know, shorter nose, two 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.240 eyes that are side by side instead of say like 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.199 a dog's you know, rabbits where they're kind of more 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.199 on the side of the head. So it's more humanoid 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:22.200 in that regard, But then there's other stories that say that, no, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.800 it doesn't have more of your traditional human face. It's 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.840 got more of a snout. But it only has a 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:33.240 single eye, So it's a cyclops, which we have not 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.679 seen in nature before. Because say, there's no good practical 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.559 reason for one single eye. That's there's a lot of 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.160 reasons to have to at least if the two. At 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.440 the minimum, I have four, and I'm very happy about 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.800 that to talk to you about work with two, because 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:55.440 the more the better, definite rency. If you lose one 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.080 or two, you still got a few more. Yeah, if 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.880 I don't cut my hair, I can still see because 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.360 I have such long hair. I've been dancing around this. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:06.199 But we should probably get into yet another weird feature 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.000 of this cryptod, and that is its mouth, or more 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:17.240 appropriately its mouths plural, because it has a normal mouth 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.120 on its head where you would expect to see said feature, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.280 but according to the stories, it also has one in 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.319 the middle of its stomach. That's. You know, if you 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.520 happen to be choking to death but you're still hungry, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.320 you can still feed yourself. Oh, is that why that happened? 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.560 We'll see. That's not what I got from the reading. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.679 The reading I got said that the reason there's a 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:44.319 second stomach there is because this cryptod you are second mouth, 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.439 I should say on its stomach is that it's there 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.680 because this particular cryptod uses it to devour people who 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.040 upset it, so that it can stuff an entire human 0:12:55.120 --> 0:13:01.000 being just right into its middle straight of the So 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.040 it's really like no face from spirited away something like 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.120 where it's actually just a mask on his face and 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.040 his actual mouth is just in the middle of his stomach, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.840 and it's just a horrible disaster. That's right, That's yeah. 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.360 And the reason that the mopping Gwari is supposedly devours 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:23.160 people is that it's a defender of the forest. It's 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:29.400 kind of the captain planet of the Amazon, Hary, very stinky, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:35.600 hairy captain planet, wh because he smells bad, and this 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:40.160 creature would smell a vision to Harry that too appears 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:44.080 that so I have made that joke about it being 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.680 the defender of the forest because the stories of the 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:51.080 mopping Guari are that they overharvest, or they kill too 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.679 many animals, or they're just disrespectful and burn and they 0:13:55.720 --> 0:14:00.000 do bad things. And one of the common threads around 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:05.160 owned that is the peckery's. Peckery's for those of you 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:10.880 who don't know, they kind they aren't pigs, but they 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.800 look and a lot like the pigs that we know 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.680 here in the first world family. They are on the 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.320 high you know what. I don't even know if they 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.240 actually are in the pig family, but they are. They 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.320 there are several feet high. They can wait. They can 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.840 wait up to a hundred pounds, which is equate tots. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:36.200 They cloven hooks. They're really hairy little critters and their omnivores, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:40.160 so they will eat anything, though they prefer vegetation, so 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.440 they dig in the dirt and they eat up roots, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.920 and then they eat grasses and trees and whatever comes 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.560 their way. They're really kind of a cross between goats 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.000 and pigs when you think about it, you know, yeah, well, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.680 goats and pigs are actually kind of the same thing 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.440 in just a different profile. They will both eat just 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.560 about anything. One has more hair than the other, and 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.760 that's really the difference. And what has club and feet? 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.080 Things don't have club and feet, do they? Yeah, they totally. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:12.960 They are part of the suborder, the same suborders Okay. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.400 When I did the initial reading, I got the feeling 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.280 that they were on a different branch, but it was 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:21.080 just even towd ungulates. Yes, okay, they are part of 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:25.640 the even to so goats and deer have something different 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.480 going on with them. They're not part of that apparent. Really, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:31.520 you know, we're not going to go to that pack 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.880 They have different they have a different teeth, oh, their palate. Okay, okay, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.320 it's fine. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Because here's the thing 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.800 is that the packery, it turns out, is a great 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.320 source of meat, and so folks in South America love 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.840 to kill them and harvest them to eat. And there 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.960 are many, many stories of guys going out and killing 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.640 way too many packery's at once, only to have the 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:04.040 moth worry show up and chase them away from their prize. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.160 So well, it's because they were disrespecting the forest and 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.600 taking way too much at one time, more than the 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.360 stories say. More than they Yes, I will say that 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:22.680 this whole eating people in the stomach mouth thing. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.720 you're you're big people eater, you know, the big middle 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:30.600 people eater portion. Uh, that's a little off of some 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.640 of the descriptions which say that this cryptid is a vegetarian. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.120 It's not a vegan, because even cryptids won't be vegans 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.040 unless they're vegetables. Uh no, well, let's see. That's the 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.160 problem is that we've we've got these these two sides 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.760 of the story where it is if the mopping wire 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:54.080 is observed eating with its upper mouth, it's headmouth. It's 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.080 only going to eat vegetation. It only uses the stomach 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:03.080 mouth for devouring humans. So either it is a vegetarian 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.320 or it's an omnivore, which means that we're safe as 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.640 long as we don't disrespect the forest, or we're all 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.320 on the menu. But yeah, I'm not sure that they 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.879 say it's a vegetarian or you know, or maybe but 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.240 how would they know. It's like it's only glimpsed occasionally, 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.760 So how do they really know what it eats? Well, okay, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.639 so one of the ways that we know that is 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.760 to the stories that are told, because there's a story 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:31.040 that how did the people who tell these stories notice 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.240 do they find have they found droppings? Well, so it's 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:40.760 it seems to be through observation of possible attacks as 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.119 well as bite marks. Because here's a here's a story 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:48.440 that we have here of a farmer who said that 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.879 has heard of cattle. It's like a hundred cattle if 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.160 I remember right, And over a very short period of time, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.800 all of his cows were killed and eaten or fed upon, 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:04.080 and he blamed it all on the mopping glory. Now, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.000 I'll be I'll be honest with you. I'm pretty sure 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.560 that this guy was just bitter because he originally started 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.800 out farming goats only to find out that choopy had 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:16.920 moved into the area. Yeah, and then he went for cows, yeah, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.520 just to find out that the mopping glory was also 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.480 in the mobby's fault that he likes cow. Yeah. So 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.600 in this case, it probably was the message that he 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.320 was setting is it's not even so much that I 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.159 hate cows. It's just like you cleared all this area 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.120 to raise cows. You low down all these trees. Maybe 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.119 there's that the message, because I wouldn't think the moping 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.000 wary would really hate cows. No, No, because I mean, 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.440 cows are dumb, lovable critters. So I'm guessing that it 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.200 would send a message. Yeah, but I mean, not only 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.000 are you clearing a bunch of forest, but a large 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.520 herd of cows on a naturally large herd of cows 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.480 does some things to the environment around it that it 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.440 gives a complete misuse often of the environment. And like really, 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.119 so I can see if that's if that follows it, 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:05.480 that he will only he they it will only you know, 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.359 go after things that are really threatening their environment for 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.760 whatever reason, whether it be killing too many of one 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.480 thing or clear cutting and whatever. A giant heard of 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.720 cows trying to bring the number down to a more 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:23.840 sustainable harmonyic harmony harmonious harmonious group makes sense to me 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:32.760 as well. But harmonic harmonic, harmonic, harmonious harmonious. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.760 that's a great point. Okay, that could be it hereens 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.840 Oh yeah, it turns out the mop Warry he sees 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.760 the bigger picture and he says, look at all the 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.200 methane those cows are produced, all that belting, and well 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.240 you know what comes out to the other end parting, 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:53.680 Oh my god. Turns out, by the way, cows are 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:58.040 terrible on waterways because they just destroy the banks of 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:04.240 all Stralia, which is a huge natural oregon can in 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.399 large enough numbers. Yeah, they found out some of some 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.680 of the eco systems like in uh, you know, in 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.760 the Midwest or in America. They found out when they 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.600 did away with all the predators that the els in 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.000 the deer actually did a lot more damage than they 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:17.879 would have done normally when things were a little more 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.680 imbalanced because there was just chew things. Yeah, it's a 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:26.960 really interesting study. I think Yellowstone they re released a 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.680 bunch of wolves into yellow Stone and they found out 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:34.840 that literally everything suddenly just became way better. Yeah, I 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.600 mean everything, like even the fact like the forest actual 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.200 trees and the forests were suddenly way healthier because it 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.280 just they just kept everything in checking. Those kind of 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.720 tap those top predators to really keep everything in check. 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.880 So maybe that's what this is. Sorry, that's probably too close, 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.520 you know. I mean it's it's it's a great idea. 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.440 I mean it could explain a lot of things, which 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.200 we'll get into when we're in the theory. Let's continue 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.080 with their description because we must have a couple of 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.800 little bits of description of the boping wari left. Turns 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:11.560 out this particular cryptod is not indstructible. You remember in 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.560 the beginning I said it's skin is supposedly so tough 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.160 that arrows and bullets can't go through it. But if 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.399 you shoot it in the head, I'm guessing through the eye, 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:26.000 you can kill it. I don't know where this information 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:30.199 comes from, but you see it everywhere, which is weird 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.240 because of the fact that there has never been a 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.960 body found and nobody actually says they've ever killed one. 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.679 Yet they tell you this is how you kill it. 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.840 So it's that's a subs A few people have killed them, 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.000 but they just didn't bother bringing the body back home, 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.440 or which smelled too bad. Yeah, I mean, either it's 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.760 smells you bad or you know. If this is a 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:54.600 very old oral tradition, we I think it's fair to 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:59.840 say that there's the possibility that somebody years ago killed 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.760 and you know, and and said, okay, well this is 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.600 how you do it if you ever really need to. 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.600 But really try not to because the only reason they're 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:08.840 going to come after you is if you're being horrible, 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.719 right right, Ye see final bit of information we have 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.800 here the So overall, I think we've all kind of 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:21.400 established that the mopping Wari sounds like a legend, as 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:25.080 Devon was just saying years ago, and it is possible 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.720 that that's the case, but there actually is today or 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.520 in recent history a group of people who have been 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:35.960 actively looking forward. And they are, or they were at 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:40.280 least a couple of years ago, headed by a man 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:48.320 named David orn Or was an ornithologist, but he's pronounced 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:53.080 ornithologist or anthologist. What do you make Okay, forget it. Yeah, 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.879 I did that a purpose, Okay, forget it. But he 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.800 was in orthologist and he went to South America on 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.320 a regular basis to study the birds there, and at 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.720 some point while he was there he heard about and 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:09.080 then became very interested in the Mopping Guarry. He's gone 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.280 on several expeditions over the years, but of course has 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:16.000 never found anything conclusive. I mean, it's it's funny is 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.840 that I read the articles about him and he's going 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.919 down there, He's doing this is the same thing that 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.880 bigfoot hunters do, which I just totally don't get. Yes, 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.399 he goes down, he does this call. He has no 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:32.000 idea if it's the right call. He could literally be 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.480 saying shut up and run away in their language, but 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.679 he has no freaking idea. But he's still bellowing this 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.720 noise out. Hopefully it's not saying I's like, hey, I'm 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:46.720 a hot I'm a hot mopping garry chick. Um. Yeah, 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:48.159 it's kind of like me with my cats, you know, 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:49.600 if I'm trying to call my cats and I go 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:53.479 wow wow. Yeah, we've had a conversation about that. We've 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.560 heard you do that before. I don't know what what 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.160 the cats here at there and if that even remotely 0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.400 sounds to a cat like at meow? Butth head butt head? 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.080 Apparently he thinks butt head? Is it a dermot? Did 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:14.920 you means? But you know, the thing is is that 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.720 he went He's been down there for several expeditions. He 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.800 hasn't found squat. I don't know if he's still doing these. 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:26.040 It sounded like his career. A lot of people were 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.440 looking at him very poorly for this in this scientific community. 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.879