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Speaker 1: to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I am Steve as

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Speaker 1: always joined by Devine, and once again we've got a

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Speaker 1: mysterious story for you. Yeah, this is creepy. It's a

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Speaker 1: creepy cryptid Yeah, this one that this oh what is

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Speaker 1: the WrestleMania that you smell? But I'm cooking. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: not gonna work in this episode, because this is a

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Speaker 1: stinky critter. I also have no idea what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: So well, it was twelve when I watched WrestleMania, so

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time that the appropriate rates here

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Speaker 1: all of the angry email. Well, this week we are

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Speaker 1: going to talk about a cryptid, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about a cryptod that I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have probably not heard of before. No different, noman, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's the mocking waw mopping. I'm gonna probably mispronounce it

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Speaker 1: creatively avoid even saying at once. Okay, Well, the mopping

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Speaker 1: Wari is a creature that is said to live in

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Speaker 1: it's South America. Was a drumstick that would be the

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Speaker 1: they very happily told them about the mopping Wari as well.

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Speaker 1: So let's this is a different creater. So let's just

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Speaker 1: kind of start at the beginning. Let's start with what

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Speaker 1: does it look like? I just want to sidetrack immediately

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Speaker 1: and tell you that my favorite thing about this part

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Speaker 1: and so the idea of cryptids and things like that,

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Speaker 1: white people came down there and the natives were like, listen,

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Speaker 1: not like anything I've ever sat heard. Absolutely, that's a

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Speaker 1: fake thing. What stop pulling my leg? There's nothing in

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Speaker 1: Typically our creature is described as traveling around on four legs,

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Speaker 1: But we should probably get into yet another weird feature

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Speaker 1: to the scientific community. So I understand where you're coming from.

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00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: But that is the reason that they are poo pooing him.

425
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: We're doing there's uh, you know, it's it's it's one

426
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: of those things. There might be just a you with

427
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: them out there. They might just be very elusive, So

428
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: let's all for not and we're going to cover that

429
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: and yeah, which we should do right now. Remember it's

430
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: up to us. Bigfoot is the crucial part of the

431
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: ecosystem if he exists, So let's all keep Bigfoot possibly

432
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: alive for few generations. Unless he doesn't exist, then we

433
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't the end that FUTA doesn't. It's just how I

434
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: feel about this, Okay, right, Well, then you're gonna be

435
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: happy to know that we're going to get in a

436
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: theory perfect we're going to solve this one. So the

437
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: first theory is that indeed the mock Bingwari is a

438
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: legend because I mean, well it's it sounds very legendary.

439
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: And as we all know, every culture out there has

440
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: stories of creatures that they used to explain. They used

441
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: them to explain away things that they just don't understand.

442
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: I think also every culture has a story to scare

443
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: the crap out of the kids so they won't wander

444
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: off into the darkness they do. I mean, I was

445
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: just let's this theory does say could be based on

446
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: something kind, right, but I would say pretty solidly most

447
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: indigenous people have some lore around something that is deeply

448
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: discouraging greed and over use of land's absolutely, but is

449
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: usually based on some sometu whether it be a bear,

450
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: lion right exactly, or a fox. And the thing is

451
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: is that this area, this part of South America or

452
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: South America itself, has some really unique creatures that are

453
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: in this legendary vein. My favorite one is the boto.

454
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: This cracks me the hell up. Yeah, the bhoto is

455
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: a dolphin that lures girls away from their village and

456
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: then has sex with and impregnates them. So whenever a

457
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: girl shows up and she shouldn't be pregnant quote unquote

458
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a pregnant because she is not married, you know,

459
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: according to local custom, they grab it off and have

460
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: a shotgun wedding. Makes sense, Well, it means that this

461
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: dolphin critter has shown up and everybody is pulling out

462
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: their iPhone and sending back and forth dolphin and eggplant emojis.

463
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: Now I did. I did a bunch of reading, and

464
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: it turns out that having a creature like the mopping

465
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: garry to blame things on is a great way to

466
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: save face when something goes bad or you don't do

467
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: the best job that you could. So little house. My

468
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: house fell over. You know it's not because I can't

469
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: build a foundation where the crap there's that. Or the

470
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: example that I have is that you go out into

471
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: the forest to hunt peckery's because you're gonna hunt them

472
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: and you're gonna butcher them and sell their meat or

473
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: use that meat to feed your family. And maybe you're

474
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: not a very good hunter. It turns out crappy hunter

475
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 1: or your dink fod and you screw around and you

476
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: don't actually do anything. Well, then you can say, oh, well,

477
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: the mopping guari was there and it scared me away,

478
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: Or if you really need to ratch at the story up,

479
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: you say, oh, I shot seven of them with in

480
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: one day, but then the creatures showed up and chased

481
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: me away and took my pride. I really liked the

482
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: idea of some like really lazy guy or no guy.

483
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's okay guy going out into the forest

484
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: and then later people go out to look for him

485
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: and they find him asleep and they wake him up

486
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, the smell of the mopping. I

487
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: can't say, yeah, it knocked me out. I can't The

488
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: last thing I remember, it's some really long hair, it

489
00:29:53,720 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: smelled so bad, just like okay, yes, why is your

490
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: blankie here? Yeah, it's like the idea of you know,

491
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: the guy who's an hour late to his job and

492
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: he's about to invent daylight saving time, whereas bosses like,

493
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: why are you in our late and he's like, oh,

494
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: haven't you heard? It's great? Same thing. This is probably

495
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: the Yeah, that's a and the same with the invention

496
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: of this where some guy got caught napping and he

497
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: was like, well haven't you heard of this thing? And

498
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: everybody else. I was like, oh, I don't want to

499
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: look like I'm dumb, so I'll just go along with it.

500
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to think. I don't want it to

501
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: seem like I don't understand this art. Of course I

502
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: understand it. Yeah, So it turns out that makes sense.

503
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Devin might be right, But it also could be that

504
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: there are a lot of strange things in the jungle,

505
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: and when it is dark and inhospitable in that environment,

506
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you see and you hear things that you just

507
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: can't explain. And while they may just be perfectly normal.

508
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Run the day critters when it is dark and they

509
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: are crashing through the forest and underbrush at you. You

510
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: are not willing to stand around and wait for them

511
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: to figure out what they are. Instead, you hide tail

512
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: it away. That is the time at which point you

513
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: will make up a description of said animal. Yeah, so

514
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: that could be where it is that the mopping water

515
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: came from. I will say, the thing that I find

516
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: really interesting about the story of the mopping Wari is

517
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: that the that north that, as Joe called it, the

518
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: top of the stick of South America, that is huge area.

519
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: It is really big. And there are all of these

520
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: indigenous tribes that don't have any contact with one another,

521
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: and yet they all have a different name for the

522
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: mopping guari, but they all seem to describe the same creature.

523
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: So that makes you wonder if they're not talking to

524
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: one another in it. Well, please please dash my hopes. Well, no,

525
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to dash her hopes. I'm just going

526
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: to say that I think there are enough similar but

527
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: different descriptions of this creature. Right. Some say that it

528
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: is a cyclops. Some say that it's got a giant

529
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: mouth in its stomach. I would assume that we're saying

530
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: their general assumptions of the very giant, hairy thing, the

531
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: very giant, hairy, stinky thing. Yeah, which like could describe

532
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: us in this room right now? Really, why does she

533
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: keep talking? No? But you see where I'm going with this,

534
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: right is that I think that there are enough kind

535
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: of different descriptions of this thing to explain there could

536
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: be a sighting of something that's fairly normal, but the

537
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: own lore has kind of taken it to that next

538
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: level and made it the legends. Because again, if there is,

539
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: if there is in fact a seven to nine foot

540
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: giant hairy thing, even if it's a total total vegetarian creature,

541
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: that is no threat whatsoever. But if there's something like

542
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: that in the forest up there, which there may well

543
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: could be, I would absolutely take that to scare my

544
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: children out of not going in I would, you know,

545
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: sure the kids didn't go in there. And you know,

546
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: you change one thing, you change an eye, you make

547
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 1: a giant mouth in the middle, you whatever to make

548
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: it a little extra scary. But it's kind of like

549
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: the internet, you want to punch things, right, But so

550
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: that that just kind of seems like that to me.

551
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean American Native American tribes have a lot of

552
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: that too. You see a lot of lower crossover in areas.

553
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, And the thing about it is is these

554
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: tribes are like all separated now, but they all came

555
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: from the same place Africa they did, and well Mesopotamia.

556
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: But well, and how long did it take the story

557
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: to travel from one side of the continent to the other. Well, yeah,

558
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, it could be that. Yes, they tell the

559
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: same vary variation, but it has a central a central point. Yeah.

560
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: And also thousand years ago or something far farther than that.

561
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: I mean, man, you know humans arrived in ten, ten,

562
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand years ago. But and so that would explain

563
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: something else too. This could be a creature that existed

564
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: like ten thousand years ago, and it may well have existed,

565
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: and so something very similar. It seems unlikely that a

566
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: real cyclops with a giant mouth in the middle of

567
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: it existed, but some version of this may have existed.

568
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Something that something with two eyes, I think, but in

569
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: something that maybe resembled a mouth in its midriff. I

570
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: would agree, maybe something that resembles is not actually a mouth,

571
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: But I didn't think. There are more theories and we

572
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: can explore that more in the theory. Yes, absolutely, you're

573
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: both absolutely right, and we're gonna We're actually gonna re

574
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna cover some of that territory. Again, Let's move

575
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: on to theory number two, which is everybody's favorite theory,

576
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: which is that it was Biggie, not Biggie Smalls, but

577
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Biggie Foot. Because yes, yes, so it is believed that

578
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: possibly the mopping Guari is just a relative of Bigfoot

579
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: if you look at and and By the way, this

580
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: is not an episode on Bigfoot, so please excuse the

581
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: brevity here, but in general terms, Bigfoot is. Sightings are

582
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: reported all over the United States, but the vast and Canada,

583
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: but the vast majority of them are on the West coast.

584
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: That's where the highest concentration of sightings are. If you

585
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: look and you run down the coast, the western coast

586
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: of the US, you know what you find. You find

587
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: a great trail right into that drumstick portion of South America.

588
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: That's the way they went down there. So that is

589
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: the theory is that they migrated south over time, the

590
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Bigfoot clan, and they, you know, they said, hey, we

591
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: like soccer more than you do here in North America,

592
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: so we're gonna go down there where they have soccer.

593
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: So that's why they traveled south, and now the mopping

594
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: guarr is all over the Amazon forest playing soccer. Well,

595
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, I look at it this way. It's like

596
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: man started emigrating, migrating across the land bridge between Siberia

597
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: and Alaska years and years ago, and yes, just decades ago.

598
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: And actually it was decades ago if you have a

599
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: lot of decades, literally tens of decades, yea hundreds of anyway,

600
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of tens of decades. Right, And so

601
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: here's all these these humans showing up and there's Bigfoot

602
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: just hanging out, and they're like, crap, Like all these

603
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: people now we've got to like hide and be elusive

604
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: and all this crap. And I don't like that. A

605
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: lot of them packed up and move south to get

606
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: away from these interlopers, and the interlopers, unfortunately, kept moving

607
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: south all christ time to move again, and so essentially

608
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: mankind was just pushing big Foot further and further south,

609
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: and essentially big feet excuse me, yeah, and until eventually,

610
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, they wind up all the way in South America.

611
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: Would a big, big big Foot with a Well, the

612
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: thing is, though, is if I mean to Joe's to

613
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: talk about what Joe saying is that the ones that

614
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: didn't move, the ones you said this is my land,

615
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: I own this land. They then became our modern Bigfoot,

616
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: who are the international hide and see champions. So if

617
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: they are related, if the mopping Guiri is related to Bigfoot,

618
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: then it's no wonder that they haven't even been able

619
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: to get a blurry photo of them, because the mopping

620
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: guiries even better at hide and the seat that you

621
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: don't even know that they exist. Bingo, we know they exist,

622
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: of course they do. Well, yeah, maybe, yeah, Let's move

623
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: on to our next sery though. The next theory is

624
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: that the mopping Wari is a relative, or actually the

625
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: relative it is a giant slot. I like this one

626
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: a lot. I really dig one. You've seen pictures of

627
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: this guy, I have, I mean everybody the megatheriyeah. Yes,

628
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: ancient giant slots. Yes. So for those of you who

629
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: don't know, there was a huge giant animal that lived

630
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: in South America during the early play a scene which

631
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: is the giant slop and this creature is much like

632
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: slots today, except way mega bigger. There are a lot

633
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: of big animals back then. Yeah, yeah, there was a

634
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: lot of megafunt like around around here in the in

635
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: the Organ area North Pacific Northwest. Yeah, it's fun, but

636
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: we have like six rom pound beavers. Imagine a six pounds.

637
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: I cannot but that that was the joy of having

638
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: such a high density of oxygen and things like that.

639
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: It could s a stain that sort of critter and

640
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: an oxygen level drop. That's why we don't have giant

641
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: dragonflies anymore because spiders. Thank God for that Cawaite children. Yes, yes,

642
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: maybe that's what happened to Washington's eagle. But the the biggest,

643
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: the giant sloth, weighed about four tons and was somewhere

644
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: around twenty ft long from nose to tail. That converts

645
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: to about six meters. And this thing was basically the

646
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: size of a mammoth, you know, ye old wooly mammoth,

647
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: that we wooly mammoth that is somehow larger than modern elephants. Right,

648
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: so it's bigger than a modern elephants. Giant creature nowhere

649
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: near as cute as a modern sloth, I am sure

650
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: fifty times or scary as long as he said, I

651
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: don't know, as long as he was in of the

652
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: same thing as he was just being slothful. Well, they

653
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: had longer noses. They walked on the ground and the

654
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: trees yeah yeah, way way too big to be in trees.

655
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: And I mean there was mega fauna at that point

656
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: or flora as well as meg yeah, but not not

657
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: that big. And so they walked on the ground and

658
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: they stood up to feed on plants trees at that time,

659
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: big big nose, big mouths, not like now. But the

660
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: thing is is that these creatures, as with a lot

661
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: of the creatures, the mega fauna from the pli scene,

662
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: they died out about ten thousand years ago because it

663
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: turns out the Earth was not made to sustained stuff.

664
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: The Earth changed to a point that it couldn't sustain

665
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: those kinds of things it actually was designed or for

666
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: like a hot second. Yeah, it's actually right about right

667
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: about that time that man was discovering how to make

668
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: two was including like spears. But we did coexist, right

669
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: yeah with them, Yeah, I mean we exist at the

670
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: same time, like at least most of these things did,

671
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: like you know, the sabracute tiger and the wooly man. No.

672
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: I just think that's an important distinction to make when

673
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: we talk about this, like prehistoric time, especially giants. Well

674
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily before man, but we talked about dinosaurs,

675
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: and then oftentimes this kind of era gets plumped in

676
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: with this dinosaur world but different but totally different era,

677
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: and an era that humans were developing with not written

678
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: but certainly oral traditions. Yes, this is before we were

679
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: hunched over a keyboard. We were still the running, we

680
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: were still hunched over, we were standing. Yes, yeah, we

681
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: were definitely bipedal at this point. But I think that

682
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: is something that's interesting to mention when we talk about

683
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: this because, as we were talking about in the last theory,

684
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: if this is an oral tradition, it is possible. Man,

685
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: it was so old, this legend that just kept getting

686
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: passed down and down and down, and people just were saying, well,

687
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: they're still there. Of course they're still there. Why would

688
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: they not still be there. They're not there anymore? Yea, yeah,

689
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: probably true. Yeah. I just think that's worth many yeah

690
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: yeah so so. But the basic theory here is that

691
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: the mopping Wari is in fact a megatherium, and that

692
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: the species had somehow managed to live nearly undiscovered all

693
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: these years in the Amazon Force. Remember they were in

694
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: South America ten thousand years ago, and the descriptions of

695
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: its size and its claws would certainly support that they

696
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: are very similar. And there there is the issue of

697
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: the second mouth that definitely was not But I would

698
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: say a giant sloth is much larger, right, but we're

699
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: going to but as we're talking, an ancient giant sloth

700
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: genuinely would be way bigger. They also and that's the

701
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: next theory. And there are their animals out there right

702
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: now that they're you know, we all read about them

703
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: all the time. Oh my god, we thought this thing

704
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: was extinct. For they found, like fifty years ago there

705
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: was some fish that they were certain had died out

706
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: of thousand or five thousand years ago. Think it starts

707
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: with an L and then I think it's like luck something.

708
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: But then they found it and oh my god, we

709
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: discovered it again and then dropped it and killed it. Yeah,

710
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: but but it was living in some river in some

711
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: Amazonian for situation, because that's usually where these stories happened.

712
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: And that's why this story is so interesting to me. Again,

713
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: as as I said at the top, that these stories

714
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: of no, no, that's totally extinct. It's been extinct for

715
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: like hundreds of thousands of then suddenly they say, oh

716
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: my god, we founded they've been alive this entire time.

717
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: So the other things that that kind of seemed to

718
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: work against this but maybe don't. Is we talked about

719
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: that whole second mouth thing. It turns out though modern

720
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: sloths have scent glands on their backs, and the fur

721
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: around that scent gland is completely in the color of

722
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: in contrast to the rest of their fur, so it

723
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: stands out. So it could be that something that is

724
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: a modern equivalent of the megatherium has sent glands as well,

725
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: but they're on its front. And because of that different

726
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: colored skin and the look of those glands, it could

727
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: be that people said, oh my god, that thing looks

728
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: like a mouth or it was running and they didn't know.

729
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: And if it's a giant thing with a giants gland,

730
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: that would explain the giant stink coming off the giants.

731
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: That would explain that. I was going to say, there

732
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: are plenty of much smaller species. There are a lot

733
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: of like moths, for instance, in this world that have

734
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: over the millennia evolved. Basically, it's just a defense mechanism

735
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: or a fear mechanism. To make it so that they

736
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: look like something else, right, And so it is possible

737
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: also that they just evolved that when they stand up,

738
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: it looks like they have a giant or something like

739
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: giant and scary exactly to scare things away, and that

740
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: their defense mechanism is in fact to stand up and

741
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: put their arms out, like we're supposed to defend ourselves

742
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: against cougars, and it just looks like there's a giant

743
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: face everywhere, and that scares most of the other animals

744
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: where it's a giant head or it could be march. Yeah,

745
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: you want you want to hear something weird about moths

746
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: and evolution. So it turns out, you know, there are

747
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: these crazy maths that have these amazingly long probiscus okay,

748
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: And everybody said, well, that must have evolved in response

749
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: to a really long flower. And Darwin got involved in this.

750
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: This is that's how old this conversation is. And if

751
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, what Darwin said was, oh, there's these

752
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: flowers that have these really long things, Well, then it

753
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: must have been there was a moth with this amazing

754
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: probiscus first, and the flowers went towards it. I think

755
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: as he said, it went the opposite direction of what

756
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: you would expect it to be, and they have recently

757
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: affirmed a hundred and fifty years or so later, they

758
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: found evidence that proves that, oh yeah, the plants were

759
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: reacting to this critter instead of the critter reacting to

760
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: the evolution of the plan. I don't know it was.

761
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: It was way outside of my pay grade, but just

762
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: the moth thing got me on that. Let's get back

763
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: into the theory. Though. I'm easy to side track, but

764
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: I can tell you where we're at. Which is the

765
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: problem with this whole theory of it being a megatherium,

766
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: and that is, of course, that the Amazon rainforest is

767
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: continually shrinking under pressures of both logging and the desires

768
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: for usable farmland. So I could see that, you know,

769
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: hundred or two hundred years ago, would be hard to

770
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: find this critter because none of this land is developed.

771
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: But it's more and more pressure is put on it.

772
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: In the area is shrinking more and more. You think

773
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: that the chances of finding what, yeah, would increase, It

774
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: would become easier and easier to find, and we have

775
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: not found. I would say not necessary really, because it's

776
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: totally reasonable to assume that the population is decreasing as well,

777
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: because lack of habitat, a population tends to grow to

778
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: the size on the land that it's supported, or decrease

779
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: to the land that it's supported. It's not as though, Yeah, basically,

780
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: if you know, we had twenty acres and we had

781
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: a hundred of these creatures, and then suddenly you have

782
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: ten thousand acres, you're probably not going to have that

783
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: same amount of those creatures. They're gonna die off, They're

784
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: gonna the alpha males are going to kill each other,

785
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: whatever is going to happen, it's gonna happen. Yeah, it's

786
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: not sustainable. So I agree with that. Well, I agree

787
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: with that in theory, but I also think that nature, um,

788
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: what's the quote life finds a way something like that, right,

789
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: But of course that the whole counter to my account, well,

790
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: the whole counter to the megatherium theory is, as Joe

791
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: brought up, is that humans existed around the same time

792
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: as these creatures did. So it is possible, as he said,

793
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: that the story of them was simply passed down through

794
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: the generation. I said that, I said that it's it's

795
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: it's stuff. So Joe had to say, because he's the

796
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: old one of the group, so he was around I

797
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: was not around that quite then. I'm sorry, I was

798
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: trying to give you credit. But okay, Devin, I said

799
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: it last. Joe might have said it first, but I

800
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: think it doesn't really matter. Yea, yeah, and that's good.

801
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: So we have another theory, which is the unknown descendant

802
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: of the giant sloth already but probably my favorite. But

803
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: there's some details that we haven't gone over as to

804
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: why this could be a viable theory. There is and

805
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: this is something that you will see in a lot

806
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: of stuff in the animal kingdom, and that is the

807
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: reduction and scale of animals. Because it is based on

808
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: the changes in the environment. Animals will grow bigger or smaller,

809
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: which is why we saw things in the early Pliocene

810
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: start to get bigger, and then as the environment changed,

811
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: they started I mean, we went from three six pound

812
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: beavers to thirty pound beavers or beavers like they shrunk greatly.

813
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: And that's based on the what the environment was, or

814
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: the populations and populations and so it it is the

815
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: known phenomena. And there is something that you see in

816
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: the reading. Sometimes you'll see it referred to as island

817
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: dwarfism or insular dwarfism, and that is where a population

818
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: is contained in an area and based on that their

819
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: their numbers reduced, but the general size of the individuals

820
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: in that population will reduce. And here's an example. So

821
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: we all know the mammoth. Mammoths were humongous creatures exactly,

822
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: except there was a population of them that ended up

823
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: on some islands and in I think we don't even

824
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: know actually I can't even say. I think I don't

825
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: know how many generations, but a very small number of generations.

826
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: Their size reduced greatly from creatures that stood twenty plus

827
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: feet tall two creatures that stood more about four to

828
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: five feet tall, and they are very small and based

829
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: on environmental changes that just happens because that's the way

830
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: they were able to live. Because the ones we probably yeah,

831
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we probably don't need to dive

832
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: into this whole evolutionary theory or but but realistically, you know,

833
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: you're on a small island. It's going to be able

834
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: to support genetically smaller things because they better to be

835
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: a physical island. If your habitat is very specific, that

836
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: counts as an island as well, and so not. What

837
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: the theory is, that's exactly what I was just saying before,

838
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: is that either a population size will diminish or the

839
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: actual physical size will diminish. So those are the two options, right,

840
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: it's either or both or both. And so at this

841
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: point what's happened is that everything is shrunk and they're

842
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: in a very specific set of areas. But of course

843
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: nobody's mapping that. The locals are just freaking out running away.

844
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: They don't know. So it could be that these creators

845
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: really do exist, but they're in such small population sizes

846
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: and they diminished enough and they don't even necessarily exist today.

847
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they all died out a couple of hundred years ago,

848
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: or maybe they are you know, the size of a

849
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: sloth just kept striking. Now they're tiny well and they're

850
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: you know, the same size as a sloth, and then

851
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: stores could have killed them out. We don't know. I mean,

852
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: it's trick with that area. The thing is so yeah,

853
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: there's just there's this there's this mopping guy out there

854
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: and you were over harvesting the pack rays and he's

855
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: really ticked about it. But it's a little pip squeak

856
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: about He's like the equivalent of a house cat, right,

857
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: God's perfect killing machine, but somehow tiny. Yes, we just

858
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: keeps from from Zutopia. I'm going to get weirded you exactly. Yeah,

859
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: joke ever in an animated movie. Anyho, you need to

860
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: see that movie. I think if you can stream it,

861
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: I know you can stream it. So our last theory

862
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: here is that indeed the mopping Guari is a totally

863
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: different actual animal. Yeah, so it could be that it

864
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: is just getting credit for the giant and eater? Did

865
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: Grant and eater? You've got have seen photos of the

866
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: giant and they are creatures, but they're they're kind of cute, Yeah,

867
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: they got they're Yeah, they're kind of they're like a pug.

868
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: They're so ugly they can be cute and either giant

869
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: Andrews for those of you who don't know that, of course,

870
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: so they got the big long, weird head. But they

871
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: also are about six to seven ft long, which is

872
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: the equivalent of about two meters, and they weigh in

873
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: about seventy to ninety pounds, which is thirty three tots,

874
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: which is nowhere. So this puts them standing upright sort

875
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: of in the same range and side up though, I

876
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: don't they do. They can't. I don't think they do normally,

877
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: but they and I don't know that they smell bad.

878
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: But they, like we talked about before, they've got really

879
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: long fur and it's kind of blackish I think normally

880
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: the images I've seen there, they're grayish black. Right, It

881
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: depends on there. Okay, it's like dogs, they have different colors.

882
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: And again, I think it depends on where they're from

883
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: to You'll get a lot of this happens with almost

884
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: every species. What it depends on where they are, how

885
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: what they need to be blending you, Like corgis there's

886
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: different breezes depending on where and what eales they're from. Yes, yeah, yeah,

887
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: depending on their natural environs. Is the furniture in this

888
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: house that? Yeah? Well so the thing to remember though,

889
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: is that the giant ant eater is a pretty passive creature.

890
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: They are not normally an aggressive creature, but they will

891
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: fight back if they are threatened, So yes, that's very true.

892
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: They also apparently like to sleep in dense foliage, which

893
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: could lend credence to the It's rushing out of the

894
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: underbrush at me, and it's super scary that could be

895
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: part of it. I don't know, but I mean again,

896
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing of people running away before they see

897
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: the animal that that could lend. Oh well, I didn't

898
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: realize there's a certain embarrassment factor there too. I ran

899
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: away from you ran away from an ant eater, ted, Yeah,

900
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: you are no, it was much scared a bigger than that.

901
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm currently looking at a picture of a giant ant

902
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: eater is a certain breed I full disclaimer, I don't

903
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: know where it is or anything. And gray one, but yeah,

904
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: it's black and gray. But the black patch is in

905
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: a very distinct like smile across its shoulders and through

906
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: its chest outlined in white that I can imagine if

907
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: that were standing up, I would maybe think that was

908
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: a giant open mouth att Yeah. Almost. Yeah, So there

909
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: are patterns like that in in their species. The giant

910
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: ant eater also has really big claus. Now, of course,

911
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: those are designed digging to dig up ants and get

912
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: into their it's colonies. I would say, yeah, most animals

913
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: that I know of, at least that have really terrifyingly

914
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: long clause use them for digging or climbing. They don't

915
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: really use them to like shred yah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

916
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: And and so that's the thing is that, well, okay,

917
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: they don't they're not all that aggressive, they're not all

918
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: that dangerous, except that it turns out that, as we said,

919
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: you can make them mad and they will come at you.

920
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: I was reading stories of a couple of hunters a

921
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: couple of times over the past years that have cornered

922
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: an antagonized ant eaters giant ant eaters, and guess who

923
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: lost The hunters The ant eaters killed them because they

924
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: are big enough and they have big enough clause that

925
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: if they do land the lucky strike your how stupid human.

926
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it kind of makes you wonder why

927
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: you would do that, not just because of the danger obviously,

928
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: but just because you're more on, You're more on in

929
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: your jerk. But yeah, I mean, maybe they just figured

930
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: they're so passive that we can just mess with them forever.

931
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: They're never gonna lash out of Well. One thing, one

932
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: thing that I also wonder is the time of year

933
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: that most of these interactions are happening. And I was

934
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: going to say, more like, if on accident, somebody wandered

935
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: in between an anti eater mama and her babies and

936
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: they're going to get probably pretty aggressive or maybe wandering

937
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: between like an antiae or in a really fat, juicy

938
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: colony of ants. You know, they probably take them off too,

939
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: probably lest they probably be a little more patient to wait.

940
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're standing in between pretty much

941
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: any mama and her babies, you're going to get. This

942
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: is my My direction was a bull and a cow.

943
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: He's he's going to try to quote unquote defend his territory. Well,

944
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: and I don't know how that works with to be honest,

945
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: they are such an alien creature to me. They literally

946
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: could reproduce by osmosis and I would have no idea,

947
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: and somebody could tell me that, and I would say

948
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: that sounds right, Yeah, totally. I mean, look at that

949
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: for it makes sense. They're so weird looking at the

950
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: are I mean, like I said, they're kind of cute,

951
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: but they are really freaking weird. Yeah, I would say,

952
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: just in general on this story, unless would we have

953
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: more theorious Well, the only thing that I have left

954
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: in this theory particular is that the at one point

955
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: I think I talked about this maybe I didn't, was

956
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: that the legends say that the mopping Guarry can't cross water,

957
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: that it won't cross water, which is kind of screwy

958
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: since the Amazon is lousy with waterways. Well, it turns

959
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: out the the giant ant eater loves to swim, has

960
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: no problems with it. So I mean these both say

961
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: that maybe the legend is wrong and the giant eater

962
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: isn't the critter. I don't know, but that's all I got.

963
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: I would say. In general, my feeling on this story

964
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: is that it's certainly based in truth, whether tenuously based

965
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: in truth or not. Uh, there are enough animals that

966
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: could be this animal, both in distant past as in

967
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: the giant sloth or modern yeah, or in the modern

968
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: day with a giant ant eater or some here to

969
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: with not yet discovered that's the right, some some now

970
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: as of now undiscovered creature in the Amazon, because there

971
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: are tons of them, I'm sure. Still, I just feel

972
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: that this this is kind of one of those things

973
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: where an indigenous people or lots of different groups of

974
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: indigenous people's came up with a story to not only

975
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: talk about why it's important that you only take what

976
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: you need, but also to scare the kids and also

977
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: to explain some things they maybe didn't understand, and that

978
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: legend just grew and grew and grew, and so South

979
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: America's captain planet, got it? Yeah, Joe, what's yours? Probably,

980
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean all these all these stories are around. I mean,

981
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: obviously people tell stories. They like to tell stories, and

982
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: telling fictional stories is nothing new, probably, so you know,

983
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean they could legends have been around for a while.

984
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: I am currently listening to Dracula. So obviously we all

985
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: love scary stories or I mean, you know, any of

986
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: the Homer stories. Yeah, and that's really really early days.

987
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I mean that's what we do as

988
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: we tell stories. There was not cautionary tales. Cautionary tales,

989
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean that we love that kind

990
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: of a story. I mean that kind of that kind

991
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: of a story where you know, somebody gets his rightful

992
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: come up and that kind of thing, and cautionary tales,

993
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: and they they're all it's kind of in the same vein.

994
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: Uh So, Yeah, I could totally see this whole thing

995
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: just being entirely made up of full cloth. Maybe it's

996
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: sort of an amalgam of various critters that have been

997
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: seen in the general Yeah, yeah, kind of just of

998
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: the we didn't wait around, and it made a bunch

999
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: of smells, and it made a bunch of rucks, and

1000
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: you saw bits and pieces, and so you just in

1001
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: your mind you glue these three things together and suddenly

1002
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: new faery giant skunk. Yeah, I'm gonna say there are

1003
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: actually their animals out there. Beside the giant skunk. There's

1004
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: a stink badger of Southeast Asia. And you know another

1005
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: something else that can project a hideous, horrible smell, although

1006
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: generally it seems to be a really small skape. Yeah,

1007
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: that skunk, but it seems like really small creatures kind

1008
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: of need to have that particular defense against the people

1009
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: to use it as a defense. Yeah, totally. Where we're huge,

1010
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: you don't really need that. But what's to say that, Well,

1011
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: I was going to say, what's to say that this

1012
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: animal isn't the natural predator of say the skunk. I

1013
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: think it's sprayed a lot. Well, they just get sprayed

1014
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: a lot for all the skunks they're killing because they

1015
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: have no sense of smell, right, so that's evolved for them.

1016
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: They don't care. They're just killing all of these stink

1017
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: animals and it's there for is just so full of

1018
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: the years and years of stink. Okay, I could be

1019
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: able by that. I you know, I want to say

1020
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: that it is just it is a reason that you know,

1021
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: it's it's stinky Ted with his dreads which Joe started

1022
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: us a rhyming mood from earlier tonight apparently, But yeah,

1023
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: I I really I don't think. I don't think the

1024
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: mop and guari is a current contemporary creature. I will

1025
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: call it a cryptod because I think that it may

1026
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: have been an unknown animal in the past in you know,

1027
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: the scale that it's described at. I don't think that

1028
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: it's the megatherium o megafauna like we had in the past.

1029
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: I think it might have been some scale down version

1030
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: that is no more that. That's really what I think

1031
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: until Or and his team come back with better data,

1032
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: because remember they they've been collecting samples from people for years.

1033
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: People have been turning in uh scat samples and hair

1034
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: samples saying I think that this was the mopping g

1035
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: warri and every time they tested it turns out to

1036
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: be some other animals, some kind of monkey or an

1037
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: ant eater or some other animal that's indigenous to the area.

1038
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: So so far they literally have squat to show. So

1039
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: I really, unfortunately I think that I don't think that

1040
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: it's it's a real thing anymore. Um, they've you've we've

1041
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: over lefted the area. Actually, what I said, it's just

1042
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: the local Indians pulling the white man's leg too. You know,

1043
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: I almost wrote that. I'm glad you brought that up

1044
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: because I put that in there earlier, the fact that,

1045
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, the Europeans showed up and the locals said, oh,

1046
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: by the way, there's this big, starty, smelly, stinky, gross

1047
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: things out there, and that might have been their way

1048
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: to try to protect what they considered a precious item,

1049
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: whether it be gold or plants or pigs or literally

1050
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: the forests. Yeah, you really, actually just I could even

1051
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: see like that. It's not even so much of that

1052
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: motivation as you have these people showing up. The next thing,

1053
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, you get these really credulous people from universities.

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Speaker 1: It's anthropologist types. You're saying, please tell us about your

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Speaker 1: folklore traditions, and you're like, what the hell, Okay, let

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Speaker 1: me make something up here and we'll pay you to

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Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I tell a good story. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: you must have all sorts of really fascinating, colorful stories

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Speaker 1: like people like you always do. Okay, let me pull

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Speaker 1: something in my butt here and they make us some

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Speaker 1: they've just so totally absurded off the top and they're

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Speaker 1: like and they're like, and then they go to all

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Speaker 1: the other you do you know of the mopping Quarry.

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Speaker 1: Do you have stories? Oh? Oh yeah, yeah, we totally

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Speaker 1: have that. We do. Our smells worse, do we have yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell me more about this and then but yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you see that this guy after he makes this thing

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Speaker 1: I don't know why these people think there's so much

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Speaker 1: freaking smarter than we are. Oh my god, they just

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Speaker 1: bought the whole thing there. Stupid. Yeah, we really are stupid.

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Speaker 1: We are. Okay, Well, that is the that is the

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Speaker 1: end of the Mopping Guarry Cryptids story. Let's give you

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Speaker 1: the important details, which are If you are the Mopping

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Speaker 1: Guarry and you want to tell us about yourself, you

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Speaker 1: were more than welcome to do that. You can send

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Speaker 1: If you are not the Mopping Guarria but you would

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Speaker 1: been said, something smells in here, So we're going to

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Speaker 1: get out of here. And you, guys, week big big

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Speaker 1: I see through the monster coding and the gentle loaner inside.

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Speaker 1: But you have a wounded raccoon friend that you tenderly

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Speaker 1: end they shoot you. But you teach us about things.

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Speaker 1: No