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Speaker 1: Oh, good time. I'll watch Steve Tasker bakstime, bastimes down time. Hello,

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Speaker 1: they're welcome to the show. Welcome to one of those

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Speaker 1: live I'm John Murphy. Steve Tasker is right next to me.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to you from Orchard Park, New York. Snowy cold.

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Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating now. Orchard Park, New York is cold.

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Speaker 1: We're in dead middle of winter. We're in the dog

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Speaker 1: days of winter. And we're happy to be here today. Happy,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. We're happy to be inside on

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Speaker 1: a daylight today. Welcome to the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: Trying to look it up here, Steve, when I came

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Speaker 1: into work it was seven degrees. It was four degrees

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Speaker 1: when I woke up around six thirty today, and it

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Speaker 1: is ten degrees now. But we're great. It's nice and

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Speaker 1: warming here in our studio, in the Senecanagara Studio. So

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Speaker 1: I'm all right, I'm not complaining about what we have.

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Speaker 1: The heat cranking. Yeah, they're they're setting up for the

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Speaker 1: Hunters Hope Hundreds Day of Hope tomorrow on Saturday tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Today's Jim Kelly's sixtieth birthday, and and so they they

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Speaker 1: had the garage doors of the building open. Place is freezing,

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Speaker 1: and our office is right there. I know we're in there,

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Speaker 1: shivering from your bone. I know you're going to one

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Speaker 1: hundred Day of Hope tomorrow, right, might try to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what goes on there? I've never been what I have

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Speaker 1: never been either? Really, I think it's just you know,

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Speaker 1: stuff they're setting up. You know, it looks like games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it looks like a pregame thing. They set up all

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Speaker 1: this stuff to do, and Jim will probably try and

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Speaker 1: make it and uh, you know, people from his foundation

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Speaker 1: or outside pick picking up, you know, getting it all

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Speaker 1: set up, and you're going, what are you gonna do tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are you gonna do at hundreds Day

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Speaker 1: of Hope? Well, if I go, you just do the

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Speaker 1: Steve task or thing. No, no, no, I'm not showing

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Speaker 1: up as as me right, dressing up. I'm not showing

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Speaker 1: up as that guy's No, I'm going as a grandpa.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're bringing kids? Yeah, okay, like my my boys

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Speaker 1: might bring their kids, you know, have fun. So um,

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Speaker 1: that's the only reason I'd go to say hi to

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Speaker 1: Jim too, okay, and Jill and all them. So you're

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Speaker 1: not doing celebrity type Steve Tasker signing jerseys. I mean

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Speaker 1: I will if somebody wants me to, but I'm you know, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. You're not gonna have a table in there

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Speaker 1: to sign You're not nobody. I'll bet you if I

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Speaker 1: go in there, most of it, most of the beloe,

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Speaker 1: most of the parents of those kids in there won't

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Speaker 1: recognize That's true, because they're all a little they're like

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Speaker 1: Mike Son's age. And then my kids wouldn't recognize me

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Speaker 1: if they weren't my How many people at the hockey

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Speaker 1: game you're right last night said hey, Steve Tasker, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing, Steve? How many people? Half a dozen? Six?

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Speaker 1: H Let me look, let me think about it for

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Speaker 1: a second. Happens to me? One I won basketball Wednesday night.

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Speaker 1: I have one. I had one one. There was a

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Speaker 1: guy the table next to us. I got the table

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Speaker 1: next to us. What do you say? He said? I fronted?

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Speaker 1: He says, I fronted a rock band for twenty years

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Speaker 1: and through busted guitar strings, broken snare drums all the day.

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Speaker 1: Because I gotta tell you, your your thing at the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl when the lights went out was great. No

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Speaker 1: that's pretty nice. That was That was one of the

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Speaker 1: nicer ones. And other than that, it was nobody. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: absolutely because we sit I sat like twenty feet from

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Speaker 1: Duffer and Marty right right there, so I said hi

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Speaker 1: to those guys. Other than that, it was it was

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Speaker 1: absolutely zero people except for the one guy and he

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Speaker 1: was at the table next to us. But this would

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Speaker 1: be Bills fans here. Tomorrow you'll walk in, it'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there'll be a buzz in the here. There. There will

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Speaker 1: not be a buzz in the here. Jim's gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you in public. You are a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I am not a big deal in public. Think in Buffalo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he said people. Some people will say, hello,

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Speaker 1: I am not a big deal. I think you'd sell

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Speaker 1: yourself short, my friend. I'll check with you on Monday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. I hang around people who are like I

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Speaker 1: hang around people who are big deals. I am not

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Oh I think you're I know a

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Speaker 1: three were chief and started to bore me. By the way,

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Speaker 1: that's our Twitter poll. Is Steve Tasker a big deal

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Speaker 1: or not? Not? Twitter say yes? He is fifty. He

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Speaker 1: That was how big a deal with Steve Tasker? Pretty big,

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Speaker 1: not so big Steve. Who know exactly other you'd get,

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Speaker 1: You'd get the entire range of that. Even in my

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Speaker 1: own house, of my own kids, I think hockey game

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Speaker 1: was great less Yeah, gonna ask you. Hockey game was great.

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Speaker 1: It was nice, It was good, It was it was

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Speaker 1: be there. It was a nice atmosphere. Thousands night. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think you do a two thousand and ten A

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Teams, Yeah, what do you call it?

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Speaker 1: The teams? Yeah, I don't know this. I don't know

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Speaker 1: some good years there. But it the affection, I don't

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Speaker 1: affection and the UM, I don't know the feelings for

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Speaker 1: the some of the good teams in the two thousands.

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Speaker 1: To me, no, I'm not gonna say it was overdone

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Speaker 1: because they won a lot, you know, two thousand seven

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Speaker 1: Brier and several others. Pete was there. Yeah, the good

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Speaker 1: to see him. Yea the all time team of the

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Speaker 1: two thousands. But a cool night, cool pregames, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was nice they did that. Glissano was there and

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Speaker 1: it was a nice night, it really was. And the

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Speaker 1: team winning obviously makes it makes it better for everybody.

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Speaker 1: But but still, um, it was great and they won

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Speaker 1: it in overtime on a Jackichael assist. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: say spectacular, but it was almost spectacular. We're getting used

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Speaker 1: not a negative comment, but they're almost wasting a great,

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Speaker 1: because the Sabers are I think I think even Jack

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Speaker 1: came off. Yes, we're gonna need some help. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they were better, Jack wouldn't be having

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Speaker 1: If they were better, you'd have more guys contributing, so

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Speaker 1: he'd have more wins. You have more guys contributing, and

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Speaker 1: right now, you're right, I mean, it's but you know

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Speaker 1: the rest of those guys. Listen, it's about the rest

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Speaker 1: of those guys too, and you know they're they've got

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Speaker 1: to be feeling like, man, I thought we were going

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Speaker 1: did We've got We've got like, we've got like nineteen

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Speaker 1: So you had fun at the game, right, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: night at the I'm at the Samboni end high right

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Speaker 1: It was great. I love the atmosphere in there. I

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Speaker 1: there's a reason they're not here anymore. Right, all right?

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Speaker 1: you're in your sixties. I'm point of the one of

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Speaker 1: the I played a game in there, charity softball game. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, so the Bisons were still playing there when

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Speaker 1: eighty seven was the last year, right, so I would

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Speaker 1: I broadcast the last game ever played there, last Bising

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Speaker 1: the link to Buffalo's history. But I felt like I

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Speaker 1: feel like a Buffalo guy when I'm in a Sabers game.

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Speaker 1: We go and you know, I've got a spot where

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk football for three hours. We got a

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Speaker 1: Is it Ed Oliver? Forty four percent of you say yeah,

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Speaker 1: them or you want to just spit out an opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think it's easiest to pick. I don't gam I

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Speaker 1: don't get I know you got we got water running. Ever, um,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to I'm not a betting guy, and I

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Speaker 1: don't gamble really at all. But if I was, I

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Speaker 1: always picked the favorite. You're gonna whip out of twenty,

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Speaker 1: I got twenty dollars. No, No, when I do. I

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Speaker 1: pick the favorite, and I think it's Devin Singletary. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have the ball in his hands. People are

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Speaker 1: gonna look at him and theoretically he's gonna get sixteen games,

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Speaker 1: not twelve games. Statistically, he'll take a step forward. They'll

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Speaker 1: use him more. He'll have a running back, uh running

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Speaker 1: mate that will keep him fresh and help him a

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Speaker 1: little bit. He'll be a year into it. I just

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Speaker 1: think Devin Singletary will have the most opportunity. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna pick him. Yeah, I think I might pick him too.

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Speaker 1: I like where he's at. The thing about him, he's

438
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Speaker 1: not say Quon Barkley, Sequon Barkley's this this physical freak

439
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 1: who can jump forty eight inches vertical and he can

440
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: he can bench press the stadium and he can you know,

441
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: he can outrun you know, cornerbacks, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. The one thing I noticed about him, so

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Speaker 1: first of all, he catches it. He's coordinated, you know,

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Speaker 1: he can do all the things with the football that

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Speaker 1: you love. The thing that I think that is different

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Speaker 1: about Devin Singletary is he seems to see it all.

447
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Speaker 1: I saw him this year when he had the ball

448
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Speaker 1: in his hands. Even early in his first couple of games,

449
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Speaker 1: he was you know how you got these guys right

450
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Speaker 1: around you, You're gonna try and make a miss. He'll

451
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Speaker 1: grab the ball and he'd run. He'd make one guy miss,

452
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Speaker 1: but he was he was also making the guy behind

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Speaker 1: that guy miss. You know, he saw guys two players

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Speaker 1: away and he was making them miss with his change

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Speaker 1: of direction, his stop and his starts. His vision is

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Speaker 1: as good as I've ever seen his ability. He's not

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Speaker 1: I mean he can, I don't know that he can

458
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Speaker 1: outrun everybody on the football field, but his vision is

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Speaker 1: such that he makes a miss. And so I think

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Speaker 1: that's and that's what Brandon Bean said about him before

461
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Speaker 1: they drafted him. His vision is elite and that really

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Speaker 1: helps a guy like Devin Singletary, who may not be

463
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Speaker 1: the fastest or the biggest or the blah blah blah,

464
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: but that guy sees everything and gets the most out

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Speaker 1: of everything when the ball is in his hands. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's why, and I think they're gonna I

467
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna expand on that just near he I

468
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Speaker 1: got one thing that makes and I would pick Devin

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Speaker 1: Singletary as well, motor, I got one thing that makes

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Speaker 1: me reluctant to do that. We don't know how many

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Speaker 1: carries he's gonna get. We don't know how much work

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get. I anticipate he'll get more work than

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Speaker 1: he got this past year without um Frank Gore backing

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Speaker 1: him up. With somebody else is going to back him up,

475
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Speaker 1: and you don't want to run him to death, right,

476
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Speaker 1: I'm looking up his carries. Last year, he had one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one carries. You'd like to see him

478
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Speaker 1: get two twenty five? Yeah, but is that asking too much?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do the coaches want to give him as

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Speaker 1: far as a workload I don't want to get. He'd

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Speaker 1: want him to get two hundred plus carries and fifty

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Speaker 1: receptions something like that. So that's a lot, Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: But by the same token, I I like that. I

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Speaker 1: like those numbers, and if he is able to get

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Speaker 1: all of that, he's gonna have a really nice year.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine catches this past year, I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: another twenty. Yeah, you know, but again there's no he can't.

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Speaker 1: He missed four games. Yeah, that's true. He can't control

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Speaker 1: that either, So he's gonna do. So let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this then, so you're saying too, that's probably you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna pick Dawson Knox for the same reasons. You

492
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Speaker 1: don't know how many catches or targets he's gonna get.

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Speaker 1: You're right, you know, ye, so so they on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the well, just for distinction there, I think, Uh, look,

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Speaker 1: Singletary can grow into a bigger role on the offense.

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox has even more room to grow into a

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Speaker 1: bigger role on offense, I think. And he can help

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Speaker 1: himself too by hanging onto some passes that came his way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's some unfortunate drops. Not I wouldn't say that defined

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Speaker 1: his first year, but it certainly was a factor. And

501
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Speaker 1: it's something and the reason I think we remember his

502
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: drops It seemed like they were drive killers. Yeah. So,

503
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Speaker 1: and it's an offense that needs everything he can get. Yeah,

504
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Speaker 1: they and or they were not hitting on all cylinders. Man,

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Speaker 1: they need to be more efficient and that and when

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Speaker 1: and it for us, I think for me and you

507
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Speaker 1: both and most maybe some bills fans. Man, when Josh

508
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: makes a good throw, you gotta catch that thing, man, right,

509
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Speaker 1: he needs all the completions he can get, and when

510
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Speaker 1: he makes the right read and makes the right throw,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta be there for him. So I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I think Dawson Knox and Devin Singletary, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to get a handle on how well they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be used, how many opportunities they're gonna get. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in the backfield with him? Are they gonna throw

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Speaker 1: to the tight ends a lot? Is Dawson Knos is

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Speaker 1: going to come back and be a primary target on

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Speaker 1: enough plays to get him a big jump forward. I

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Speaker 1: don't know Ed Oliver is gonna be on the field,

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Speaker 1: so I think he has a chance too. I think

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Speaker 1: he's the likeliest candidate as well, because we saw him

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Speaker 1: jump in the second half of this last season. But

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Speaker 1: he does play defensive tackle. I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: means he's you know, Jordan Phillips had nine and a

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Speaker 1: half sacks this year. I don't know if Ed Oliver

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Speaker 1: will match that, but I think he's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the field enough to have it shot a shot at that, yep.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. All right, Hey, we're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: break because we've got Chris Brown he's getting warmed up.

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Speaker 1: If you've never heard Chris Brown in one of his

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Speaker 1: epic on Aaron rants, this might be the time. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to build him up

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Speaker 1: too much. I don't want he wants to talk about

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Speaker 1: baseball in this show. But we'll let him. We'll let him.

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Speaker 1: He's done us enough favors. Chris Brown's joining us. We're

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Speaker 1: also gonna take a look at the running back spot

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Speaker 1: for the Bills State of the Bills on Bills running

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Speaker 1: Backs when we return one Bill's Live, presented by Kalina

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Speaker 1: Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, John Murphy, Steve Casker here until three.

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Speaker 1: The weekend is coming puts many of us in a

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Speaker 1: good mood. Steve ready for the weekend, Big weekend. I

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Speaker 1: am yeah, you know. By the way, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to think you just you know it's Valentine's Day. You Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: you're I don't want to get you. I don't want

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Speaker 1: you to get caught off guard do something. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: thanks for reminding. You might write that down. I'm a

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Speaker 1: line with us right now. Bill's Insider from Buffalo bills

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Speaker 1: dot com. Chris Brown, Chris, I thought you were on

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Speaker 1: vacation today. What's going on? You demanded to come on

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Speaker 1: the show. No, well I couldn't take it anymore. I

552
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Speaker 1: just couldn't, because who's your problem with me? What's that?

553
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Speaker 1: You got a problem with me? Or receive? What do

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Speaker 1: you mean you? I got a problem with the Astros

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00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: because you know, first of all, first and foremost, the

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Speaker 1: Major League Commissioner of Baseball Rob Manfred failed miserably and

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Speaker 1: in enacting discipline. Don't you want to call one Astros

558
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: drive instead of us? Well, I mean, look, here's the thing, okay,

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Speaker 1: number one, I understand why he only find the Astros

560
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: five million dollars. Under the Major League Baseball by laws,

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00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: that's the maximum that an owner can find a team. Okay,

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00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: so there's no teeth in that. You did the best

563
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: you could find, no problem his hands are tied in.

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00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: But a one year suspension for the GM and for

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Speaker 1: the manager who promptly get fired an hour later, a

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Speaker 1: year for that, and then the coup de gras is

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Speaker 1: yesterday the press conference at spring training, where you know,

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Speaker 1: you would think that their PR staff has all these

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Speaker 1: prepared statements for the players, what kind of you hit

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Speaker 1: the right notes and looked like you actually mean the

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Speaker 1: apology that you're about to elicit, and what happens? You know,

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Speaker 1: I thought the players sounded more contrite than the owner did.

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Speaker 1: And the owner, to me feels like he is blameless

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Speaker 1: in this situation, which defies logic for me. Also, But

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Speaker 1: where he really went off the rails for me and

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Speaker 1: really just had me chapped here in my house bouncing

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Speaker 1: off the walls was when he said, and was prompted

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Speaker 1: and asked by the media and rightly so, about the

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Speaker 1: playoff series with the Yankees in twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and he said, listen, the Yankees had a few comments

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Speaker 1: out there. Our opinion is that this the sign stealing,

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Speaker 1: didn't impact the game. We had a good team, we

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Speaker 1: won the World Series, and we'll leave it at that. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course you'll leave it at that because you cheat it.

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Speaker 1: And to saying that it didn't impact the game, are

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Speaker 1: you serious? Why would you go to the trouble of

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Speaker 1: doing it in the first place if it didn't impact

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Speaker 1: the game. They had an elaborate computer system designed to

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Speaker 1: identify the signs immediately in game, which is illegal, number one,

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Speaker 1: But number two, if Jose Altuve knows he's getting a fastball,

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Speaker 1: are you telling me he's not going to improve his

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Speaker 1: batting average? Get the heck out of Dodge with that.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't impact the game. You gotta be off your

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Speaker 1: rocker with that. Come on, Am I wrong? Did they

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00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: win the World Series because they were stealing signs? I

596
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: think it helped them win the World Series. Now, look,

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00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: they had extraordinary pitching in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: and even twenty nineteen when they got Garrett Cole. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to debate that for a second. But you

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Speaker 1: cannot tell me that knowing what pitch you are getting

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Speaker 1: is not going to enhance your ability to get a hit.

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Speaker 1: Over swinging and missing and you're not guessing you know

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Speaker 1: what's coming. How is that not going to improve your

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00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: batting average as a baseball player, it's going to inevitably.

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Speaker 1: For the record, I want to say, I agree with

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Speaker 1: you that the owner struck the wrong note saying it

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Speaker 1: didn't impact the game. On the other hand, let me

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Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate, and I do this knowing full well

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Speaker 1: that I run the risk of being barraged by angry

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Speaker 1: tweets from idiots who sit around and live on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: But let me just bring this up. What about the

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Speaker 1: intermittent nature of the pitch the sign stealing. They didn't

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Speaker 1: do it for every batter, They didn't do it for

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Speaker 1: every pitch. It into it for all those road games, right,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. My point is, it wasn't like an every

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Speaker 1: pitch thing. They did it, you know, occasionally. It wasn't right,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't an every pitch thing. And there were teams

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Speaker 1: that got wise to what the Astros were doing and

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Speaker 1: would change their signs through the course of one inning

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Speaker 1: to the next, like, hey, they're on to us with this.

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Speaker 1: I hear the can banging and the dugout, let's change

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Speaker 1: our signs up and adjust them. And that would render it,

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Speaker 1: you know, ineffective, and they might have to scrap it.

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Speaker 1: But I think there was more than enough evidence to

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Speaker 1: indicate that they used it often enough where it's clearly

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Speaker 1: presented an advantage to that team, so much so that

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Speaker 1: another team used it, like the Red Sox. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: the team I feel the worst for are the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: who lost two World Series to the Astros and Red

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Speaker 1: Sox respectively. Two of the teams that are being investigated

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Speaker 1: for this or the Astros. We're still waiting on the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox thing. And just the flipping nature with which

633
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball has dealt with this is going to

634
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: cause a problem when we get to the regular season.

635
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: The players for the Astros are going to endure fan

636
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: abuse that I think we may have never seen before,

637
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: even worse than all the stuff that the Patriots endured

638
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: in venues. When people are calling them cheaters, they're holding

639
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: up signs, you guys cheat, you guys do this, you

640
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: guys do that. It's going to be relentless to no

641
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: end because I think most people that are baseball fans

642
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: that do go to games do not believe that the

643
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: punishment has spit the crime here. And you want to

644
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: take this as far as Pete Rose, you can take

645
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: it as far as Pete Rose. That guy's been banned

646
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: for life for betting on games and had, in my opinion,

647
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: less of an impact on the outcome of games than

648
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: the Astros did, and yet he is band for life

649
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: and they have a GM and a manager that are

650
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: only suspended for a year. I don't feel they missed

651
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: the mark completely Major League Baseball. What about the idea

652
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: that the owner, if you're the GM or the manager

653
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: or whoever is involved in this cheating scandal, don't you

654
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: think you'd almost try and hide that from your owner

655
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: he didn't know it. Well, well, I understand why you

656
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: might try to keep that under wraps. That's a fair

657
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: argument to make, Steve. I'm not going to debate that,

658
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: But there's I mean, what kind of owner are you then?

659
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, are you that laser fair with your operation?

660
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't wrap my head around an owner

661
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: not being that invested in their product, Like you have

662
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: to know what the day to day is. You can't

663
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: tell me the owner is not meeting with the GM

664
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, not meeting with the GM and

665
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: the manager at the same time. I mean, let's just

666
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: apply it to the bills, and maybe it's apples and oranges.

667
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think we know that Terry

668
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: Pogoula is on the phone every Monday morning with Brandon

669
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Bean and Sean McDermott after games. I mean, that's at

670
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: least once a week during the football season and during

671
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: the offseason. Who knows it might be even more so

672
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: to say that the owner of the Astros is completely

673
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: out of the loop. I mean, that's that's just too

674
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: that's too hard. Can I bring up did I imagine this?

675
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: I read recently that the manager, the former manager of

676
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: the Astros wasn't fully aware of how extensive it wasn't

677
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: actually stopped doing it, turned the TV off, turned up

678
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: the signaling system off after a while, right, yeah, yeah,

679
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: aj Hans trying to be oh, well, this isn't right,

680
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: let me fix this. Well, the cat was out of

681
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: the bag already, dude, Come on, man, like, what are

682
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: we doing here? I know you're trying to fix the

683
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: wrong but the thing's already happened. And the player, I mean,

684
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: you had, you had twenty five rostered players, You had managers,

685
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: bench coaches, everybody, and everybody was turning a blind eye

686
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: to it for far too long. And in my opinion,

687
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball should vacate the twenty seventeen World Series title.

688
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's end all, be all done. Deal, Lucille,

689
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: no World Series champion for twenty seventeen. You had it

690
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 1: for nineteen ninety four when you didn't have a World

691
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Series because of the strike. There's nothing wrong with vacate

692
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen and say Astros, thanks for coming, but

693
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: no thanks, you cheated. Sorry, Chris, I was telling Steve this.

694
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary, one of those HBO Ross Greenberg documentaries,

695
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: and it's not a new movie, it's twenty years old.

696
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: But it was about Bobby Thompson shot heard around the world,

697
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize that the Giants were thought And

698
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: there's actually pretty credible evidence that the Giants stationed to

699
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: backup Catcher in the scoreboard or and the you know,

700
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: Polo Field had the deep center field with the office

701
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: building out there. Giants stationed to backup Catcher out there

702
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: with a spy glass and he relayed signals to their

703
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: dugout for their batters. Do you vacate that win? Did

704
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: the Dodgers not win the penant? Do we get Rush

705
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: Hodges back to say that the you know, what do

706
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: you do with that? You know, the Giants win the pennant?

707
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: What do you do? Yeah, Giants don't win the pennant?

708
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: Struck you struck a chord in my house because my

709
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: dad grew up a Giants fan and he's in town

710
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: this week. Him you probably know he said you would

711
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: need a spy glass because it's about four hundred and

712
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: eighty feet away from home plate. With the way the

713
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: polo grounds was set up because it used to be

714
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: a horse track. Ask him, if we don't need to

715
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: ask your dad if he knew that, if he heard

716
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: that that that the the Giants were stealing signals. Well,

717
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's it's sure for games and ship going

718
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: on in the fifties, And I think the issue here

719
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: is the elect the electronic technology that was being used

720
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: to do it in real time. How how much in

721
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: real time they could do it back then. I guess

722
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: you were saying they were using signals with the uh

723
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: manual scoreboard or something, right, I'm not sure about I

724
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: think there's there. You can ask your dad, but I

725
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: think there were offices out there way out there for

726
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: under plus f in centerfield. That that's where the clubhouses

727
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: where too, because after the games were over, that all

728
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: the players will walk out to center field and go

729
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: to the clubhouses. I got a question for you, Is

730
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: there any And I haven't heard, but I'm sure that

731
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: this may be the hardest thing to find out about

732
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: this whole cheating science sealing scandal. Is where it originated from.

733
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: Who came up with the idea, who implemented it? Which

734
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: guys were the guys who say, hey, listen, this is

735
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: how we're gonna do it. Get a camera, because I

736
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: know this. If you're gonna get anything done to any

737
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: baseball's team, you got to have some guys who wears

738
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: tool belts and hard hats to go out there and

739
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: install a camera and run the line and put the

740
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: camera and put the TV monitor upright, all of that.

741
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: So where did this originate from? I think it, at

742
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: least from some of the stuff that I've read. It

743
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: was Carlos Beltron and Alex Cora, who became the managers

744
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: of the Red Sox and the Mets respectively before they

745
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: were both unceremoniously fired after they were implicated in this

746
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: whole science stealing scheme. And so they clearly had partner

747
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: because you can't tell me Carlos Beltron and Alex Coorer

748
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: know how to hook up a line, not let alone

749
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: know how to set up a computer system to decipher

750
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: the signals in real time. So they had a lot

751
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: of help. Guys, Hey, great idea, let's flesh this out.

752
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: Let's see how far we can take it. I mean,

753
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: they went as far as a computer system, for gosh's sake.

754
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a lot of people, and there's

755
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of layers, and we may never ever get

756
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: to see or learn all of the layers involved in this.

757
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: But I think it's safe to label this an elaborate

758
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: sign stealing scheme that clearly broke the rules was clearly cheating.

759
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: And the flipping nature with which Rod Manford handled this

760
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: the commissioner Major League Baseball because he wants it to

761
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: just go away was foolish. Hand down proper punishment that's

762
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: going to keep anybody from ever even thinking of doing

763
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: this again. How bad is how bad is the punishment?

764
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: We lost our GM, we lost our manager, we lost

765
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: a couple of draft picks, and five million dollars. Five

766
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: million dollars drop in the bucket for a Major League

767
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: Baseball team. I don't think it's enough of a deterrent,

768
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you. And they still have

769
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: their championship. Oh, by the way, so vacate that thing

770
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. And I think Major League Baseball fans

771
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: should launch a movement and a petition to get Rob

772
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Manfred to reverse his decision and make him vacate the

773
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen World Series title because it is unquestionably tainted.

774
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, rant, Brownie. Not as good as your

775
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: rant in the epic Rant training camp in twenty eighteen,

776
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: Bolden Rant, that's pretty rant. That's about as fagged up

777
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: as anybody you'll get about a player that was on

778
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: your roster for a week, right, that's right, height before

779
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: you go the report today, Greg Olson is now in

780
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: negotiations with the Bills, the Seahawks, and who's the other team,

781
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. Yeah, any you don't know where he's gonna sign.

782
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: But what do you make of this whole epic? Greg

783
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: Olsen two week Dog and Pony Show. What do you

784
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be thirty five years old next? Yeah?

785
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: Obviously these three teams all feel that he still has

786
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: something left to give. I think we know the value

787
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: that the Bills put on having a veteran presence in

788
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: the locker room. And I don't think Brandon Bean would

789
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: entertain bringing him on the roster if he didn't feel

790
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: like he could help in some capacity in the passing game.

791
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: And I think he does still have game left in him.

792
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: It's clearly it's clear he still wants to play, believes

793
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: he can still make a contribution, and so the bills

794
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: are clearly entertaining that. Now. I don't know how much

795
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: Olsen and Drew Rosenhouse, who last I checked his still

796
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: his agent, aren't playing one team against the other. I mean,

797
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: after all, it is a thirty five year old player.

798
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that any of these three teams are

799
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: willing to go too far in terms of competing against

800
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: one another. And I think it's probably going to come

801
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: down to, you know, who's going to give him the

802
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: most money. He clearly feels comfortable with all three situations

803
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: and what he heard from all three with their respective pitches.

804
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: And I think he believes, well, whether I end up

805
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: in Seattle, Washington or Buffalo, I can't lose. So let's

806
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: just see, he's gonna give me the most money, and

807
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: I'll be happy in any one of those three places. Yeah.

808
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if if I'm thinking like the rest of

809
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: you are, I think Greg Olsen comes to for instance,

810
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: greg Olsen comes to Buffalo, he'll probably get twenty snaps,

811
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: a tight end a game. Backing up Dawson Knox and

812
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: is there to show Dawson Knox how to prepare, how

813
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: to be a good tight end. And he'll strictly have

814
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: a role to play as to give Dawson Knox a

815
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: rest here and there, take a series or have a

816
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: package where he's also a part of a two or

817
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: three tight end set where he's a receiver kind of thing.

818
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: He's not going to take sixty five or seventy snaps

819
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: a week as a tight end, but he could come

820
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: in and give you something in certain situations. And his

821
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: football IQ is off the charts. He's a coach's son.

822
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he knows the game inside and out. He

823
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: knows the nuances of the game, and those are things

824
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: that perhaps Dawson Knox has not yet mastered. Knowing number one,

825
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: he didn't get a lot of experience in college in

826
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: terms of real game experience. And then on top of that,

827
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, in high school he was a quarterback, So

828
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: you could argue that Dawson Knox is also still young

829
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: at the tight end position. So there's a lot that

830
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox could certainly soak up from a player like

831
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Greg Olson. There's no question. Hey Chris, thanks for this.

832
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: Hey if you got any other rants the next week

833
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: or so when you're off on vacation, shouldn't feel free

834
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: to phone him into us, you know, I don't know.

835
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: If you get pasta that's not quite al Dente or something,

836
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: you can let us know. We'll talk, you know, And

837
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm working on it. I'm working on it and may

838
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: be able to break it off to you in Italian too,

839
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: which might be even more entertain Chris Brown bills it

840
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: inside our Buffalo Bills dot com. Thanks Brownie, desperate to

841
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: be on the show. Guys, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: We're coming back. One Middle's I presented by Kalida Health

843
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Archard Park. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio one Bills Live. Welcome back, John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a phone called Jeff and Frankfort. Where's Frankfort? Jeff?

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Speaker 1: It's just easy you okad? John? Oh? Okay, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the show. Have I no problem? Um?

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Speaker 1: I actually I called last year right after the Bills

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Speaker 1: released their embedded series Huh, and the three of us

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Speaker 1: talked about a trade that the Bills, you know, decided

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Speaker 1: not to take that would have you know, I would

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Speaker 1: have given up nine, um, seventy four and one thirty

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Speaker 1: one and we would have gotten eleven thirty seven and

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Speaker 1: forty Okay, And we talked about whether or not we

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Speaker 1: thowt Ed Oliver and one was worth you know, basically

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Speaker 1: two players in the top forty right. I was woundering

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Speaker 1: a year removed. You know what you guys thought about that? Um?

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Speaker 1: You know we basically instead again Ed Oliver and uh

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Speaker 1: Cody Ford, we could have got Christian Wilkins, the next

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Speaker 1: best defensive tackle, DK Metcalf and Cody Ford. I was worrying,

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Speaker 1: which team do you think would have been better last year?

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Speaker 1: The team was at Oliver and Cody Ford or the

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Speaker 1: team is Wilkins, Metcalf and Ford. Well, yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: good question. There's no way to tell, but go ahead

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Speaker 1: and knock yourself out in Yeah, it's hard. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to go back in time. You got me on that

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Speaker 1: when I don't have the total recall to be able

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Speaker 1: to go back and think, I kind of remember having

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Speaker 1: this conversation was this and I can't even the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I remember the trade and how it was happened and

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Speaker 1: what the bills shied away from it. Is that what

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Speaker 1: you're telling me is are the Bills and ones that

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Speaker 1: didn't want to make it? Or was this a hypothetical trade? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It was on the it was it came upon the

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Speaker 1: embedded the Bills would have it was with the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: We would have moved down a couple of spots, given

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Speaker 1: up our third fourth, and got in the Bengals second

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Speaker 1: as well, would have gotten the Bengals first. So, and

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Speaker 1: what it really boils down to is do you like

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Speaker 1: well DK Metcalf gets thrown in there as well? Do

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Speaker 1: you like Ed Oliver better than you do the defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman at that point, the one you're talking about Wilkins

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Speaker 1: and you get Cody Ford. Anyway, I guess by the

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Speaker 1: scenario you're talking about, and you also throw in DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to argue that the way it worked out

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been advantageous for the Bills, But I

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Speaker 1: think they like where they're at. But DK Metcalf had

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal year with Seattle, so that's pretty enticing as well.

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Speaker 1: So in hindsight, yeah, if it all worked out exactly

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Speaker 1: the way you say, you got to be foolish to think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wish we'd have made that trade, but I don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, here, it's hard to know that it would

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Speaker 1: have fallen exactly the same way. And I like it

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Speaker 1: all over a lot. And I think that with the

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Speaker 1: with what we ended up doing with the other picture

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Speaker 1: would have given up getting knocks and singletary. I think

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Speaker 1: it worked out for the best. We got the production

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Speaker 1: on the offense out of those two players. We got

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Speaker 1: more than DK Metcalf wouldn't provided. But I'm just still

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Speaker 1: you know, John, I don't agree with everything you say,

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Speaker 1: but last year I was ready through with you. I was.

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Speaker 1: I really saw a DK back half was was gonna

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Speaker 1: be great in the NFL, and I think he proved

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Speaker 1: he as a steal where the Seahawks got him. And

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Speaker 1: I think you would have been well worthy of our second,

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Speaker 1: you know, second round pick last year. Yeah, one one

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Speaker 1: good year and now I'm backing off on DK. Not really,

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Speaker 1: but he had one one good year. All he's got

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Speaker 1: to do it again and again, right, But he was.

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Speaker 1: He's a pretty good pick and a pretty talented player. Listen,

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Speaker 1: we're having and thanks for calling, Jeff. It's awesome because

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Speaker 1: I have been, you know, getting kudos to my partner

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Speaker 1: here for his DK Metcalf passion last year at this time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't care about me. I don't know, but it's true.

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Speaker 1: We're and we're we're two a week. We've had all

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Speaker 1: next week here in town, and then you know, the

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Speaker 1: week after that, we're at the combine and there are

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Speaker 1: gonna be that's the fun part about this. There're gonna

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Speaker 1: be more guys. There's gonna be more shiny things on

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Speaker 1: the shelf of the draft store that we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to pick. And Murphy we've already said, he's gonna pick

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Speaker 1: his guys. I'm gonna think mine, and we're gonna stump

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Speaker 1: for him the entire way all the way to the

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Speaker 1: draft in April. So you're right, Jeff. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: if that trade you're talking about, it takes away Devin

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Speaker 1: Singletary and takes away Dawson Knox, but we get DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: Cody Ford and this guy Wilkins Dolphins game, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it may be a push. You know, it's pretty close though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting to think about. Go ahead, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: imagine it. Imagine if you're a Twitter poll today, said

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Speaker 1: who's gonna play to take the next step at Oliver

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Speaker 1: dk metcalf Les, Devin Singletary or Dawson Knox. I mean

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Speaker 1: that that I just again, I'm just still but fan,

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Speaker 1: I wish you'd gotten him in the second round. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I know, but I got big holds for next year,

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Speaker 1: no matter what. I'll tell you what though, Jeff, that

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Speaker 1: is a dark rabbit hole you're headed down, right, That's

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Speaker 1: what get Thanks Jeff. It's a good point, but that's

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Speaker 1: what gets me. My eyes glaze over you. You would

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Speaker 1: have made it this, You would have picked him, You

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Speaker 1: would have picked him there, You would have made this

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Speaker 1: till Yeah, but you can say that about virtually you

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Speaker 1: go back and rewrite the history of almost every draft

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Speaker 1: and come up with a better scenario if you had

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Speaker 1: that evidence before you went into the draft, and that

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Speaker 1: that's a every year scenario, right, I mean, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta you like to see teams pickwell and make good moves.

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Speaker 1: But I don't. I'm not a second guesser that it's

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Speaker 1: a fun It would be a fun board game, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you think back Tom Brady was a sixth round

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Speaker 1: draft pick. Say no more, it's a crapshoot, speaking of

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Speaker 1: the combine. So we are leaving on Monday, February twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: will be broadcast team Tuesday through Friday that week from

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis from the Convention Center. And I do I know

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Speaker 1: you've got big social plans and friends in Indie. I'll

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Speaker 1: squeeze in the show around around, not just the show,

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Speaker 1: but the first night we're there, So it'd be Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: February twenty fifth. I'm pretty sure that's the night when

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and receivers are on the field for the workouts

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Speaker 1: time primetime. Yes, so let's can you give up one

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Speaker 1: night of wining and dining maybe do a little work

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Speaker 1: It all depends our credentials VIP credentials. Are we gonna

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Speaker 1: be a We're gonna get down there so we can

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Speaker 1: see these credentials. We can get in the dome and

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Speaker 1: watch workouts. And again, it's not exciting, it's not exhilarating,

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Speaker 1: but you get to see what a quarterback looks like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get to see how guys run routes.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just encouraging you. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: your boss. Let's let's say that. But the first night

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Speaker 1: we're there. I think we should the Tuesday night we're there,

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Speaker 1: I think we should plan on going to the workout.

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Speaker 1: Are we might? But here's the thing, we gotta go

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Speaker 1: to Ken Jones's interesting. I like it on TV because

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Speaker 1: they cut out all the standing around because, let me

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Speaker 1: tell you something I've been it's a lot of standing around.

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Speaker 1: They look like cows in a field, not players on

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Speaker 1: the fight to get my own eyes on the prospects.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure it's Thursday? I think it's two. Jay

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Speaker 1: says it's one hundred percent. It's Thursday. So Tuesday's my night.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday's my night. Right, I can go out and do

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Speaker 1: what I want. You can do what you on Tuesday. Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Friday will drive. I'm not sure it's Thursday, but we'll

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Speaker 1: double check. I'm actually hanging around Friday. Okay, if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind, well, I'm glad you asked for a permission. Hey,

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Speaker 1: coming up Ruben Brown, who is a combined prospect many

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Speaker 1: many years ago, former first round pick of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: We used to have him on once a week. We

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Speaker 1: have him, had him out in a while. He'll be

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Speaker 1: with uslide when we return on the show. It's One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Klata Health from the Seneca Studio

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Speaker 1: in Archard Park, Seneca Resorts and Casino. Nothing comes close Hello,

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Speaker 1: Bilds Radio Network Sports Day from One Bills Live. The

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Speaker 1: Bills and a couple of other teams waiting to hear

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Speaker 1: the decision from free agent tight end Greg Olsen. He

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Speaker 1: wrapped up his free agency tour earlier this week. ESPN's

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter reports that Olsen is in the midst of

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Speaker 1: negotiations with the Bills, the Redskins, and the Seahawks. They

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Speaker 1: each met with the veteran tight end during the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks after the Super Bowl. Greg Olson will be

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Speaker 1: thirty five year old next month. Thirty five years old

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Speaker 1: next month. He just agreed to part way with the

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Speaker 1: Panthers after nine seasons with that franchise. Released on February third.

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Speaker 1: After a couple of banned injury marred seasons with foot issues,

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Speaker 1: he rebounded with fifty two catches, five hundred ninety seven

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Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns last season. The Seahawks, Washington and

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Speaker 1: the Bills waiting to hear from free age and tight

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Speaker 1: end Greg Olsen. There's a report today that the NFL

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Speaker 1: Players Association Executive Committee and player reps will meet in

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Speaker 1: Washington on Thursday for a potentially consequential meeting for CBA talks.

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Speaker 1: Sources say they've given the NFL list of some final issues.

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Speaker 1: If they're resolved to their liking, there is likely to

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Speaker 1: be a vote, the sources said the league. The NFLPA

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Speaker 1: has said membership wide conference calls the last couple of

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Speaker 1: days to update players around the league on the status

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Speaker 1: of the CBA talks. Los Angeles Chargers, of course let

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Speaker 1: the philip Rivers go, and now head coach Anthony Lynn

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Speaker 1: said Tyron Taylor, last season's backup, could have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to earn the starting job in twenty twenty. Lynn just

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Speaker 1: got a one year contract extension that puts him with

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Speaker 1: a Chargers the twenty twenty one season. Tyrod Taylor the

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Speaker 1: second lowest interception percentage in NFL history at one point

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Speaker 1: three nine percent, as a chance to be a starter

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Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Chargers. Washington's releasing cornerback Johnson Norman.

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Speaker 1: According to NBC in Washington, Norman said new Redskins coach

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, who coached him in Carolina, called him this

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Speaker 1: morning to inform him of the release. Steelers general manager

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert is optimistic that Ben Roethersbergers were gonna have

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Speaker 1: is going in the right direction, said he does not

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Speaker 1: think the veteran quarterback is at the end of the road.

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Speaker 1: And the Sabers beat come up as four three in

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Speaker 1: overtime last night, Sabers home against the Leaves on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, seven o'clock, Keybank Center. There you go. That's

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Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Life, John Murphy Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: in our one Buffalo studio. Familiar place for our next guest,

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Speaker 1: not just the studio, but all of Orchard Park although

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Speaker 1: this complex. Ruben Brown played thirteen seasons in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: much of that time with the Buffalo Bills. He was

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Speaker 1: an All Pro guard and made nine Pro Bowl appearances.

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Speaker 1: And Ruben Brown is on the line with us right

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Speaker 1: now from his home on Long Island day after his birthday,

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Speaker 1: Happy birth, rubined, how you doing? Thanks for the birthday,

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Speaker 1: which is I'm doing great. I'm still here. I made

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Speaker 1: another revolution around the sun. Very nice good way to

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Speaker 1: put it. How old are you group? Can I ask?

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Speaker 1: Forty eight? I'm happy to be forty eight. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, you know, and and listen, think

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Speaker 1: about this a little note that thirty years ago, this

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Speaker 1: month or this at this time, you committed to go

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh to play football. Yes, yes I did, And

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Speaker 1: you know, I second guess that decision many of times

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00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: walking up that Cardiac Hill to practice. Yeah, like I

1052
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: could have. I could have gone to Arizona. Everything's flat

1053
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: out there, you know, But it worked out. I had

1054
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: a great time there and awesome experience, and it actually

1055
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: prepped me for what I was going to experience in

1056
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: the NFL. I had some great coaches there at the

1057
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: time that I was in there. Our favorite quarterback, Alex

1058
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: Van Pelt was there quarterbacking, but at the time, Mike

1059
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: McCarthy was his quarterbacks coach, right, and also John Gruten

1060
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: was the receiver's coach. Paul Hackett was our head coach,

1061
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: who his son was practically in diapers around that time. Yeah,

1062
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: as to see him, Yeah, Nate made it into the

1063
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: NFL and became a great coordinator. So I don't know

1064
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: where he is this year, but there's a lot of

1065
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: lineage at the University of Pittsburgh in the NFL, A

1066
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: lot of great coaches, and I'm glad to know say

1067
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: that that's my alumni and I'm a part of that tradition. Hey, Ruben,

1068
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned Alex van Pelt. Have you had a chance

1069
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: to talk to him? My son him a text when

1070
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: he got the Cleveland job. But he's a new offensive

1071
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: coordinator of the Cleveland Browns with a boatload of talent

1072
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: there on offensive cleanland. I think he's gonna have success

1073
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: down there, don't you. I think you'll do a great job.

1074
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: I text them, and I text Alex quite a bit

1075
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: um regardless of where he is in his career, and

1076
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm always, uh my. My sentiments to him is just

1077
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: run the ball, your offensive coordinate to make it easy

1078
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: on yourself and run the ball. And he says that

1079
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: I always say that you do exactly what you do.

1080
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: He's right. So how close to tabs do you have

1081
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: you kept on the Bills this last season? And what

1082
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: were your what are your impressions now that the season's over,

1083
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: the super Bowl has happened and the Bills got into

1084
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs, what are your lasting impressions of the twenty

1085
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: nineteen Bills. I feel like they broke the seal, you know,

1086
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: the seal of the past. Uh, the you know, not

1087
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: making it to the playoffs, are struggling to get to

1088
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think they've established themselves as the team

1089
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: one of the teams serious teams in their conference. So

1090
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, Patriots beware, Jets be where Dolphins beware, because

1091
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: the Bills are armed to the teeth and are building

1092
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: more that they could definitely win this thing. They can

1093
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: go deep into the playoffs with some additions and upgrades

1094
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: and better play out as some of the guys that

1095
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: will stay around. Hey, Ruben, we did not talk to

1096
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: you much last season, but last season the Bills had

1097
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: basically a remade offensive line with Mitch Morrison, new tackles

1098
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: and at least one new guard. What did you think

1099
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: of the way that group played last year? I know

1100
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: that's really what you look at the most when you're

1101
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: watching any team. I think the offensive coordinator has got

1102
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: to be commended, mostly because he taylored a offensive system

1103
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: set up for where you know, it protected the quarterback

1104
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: it's best they could at times. And then the offensive

1105
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: linemen weren't I would say, left on the island a lot.

1106
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: And that's all where your breakdowns come. When you get

1107
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: a lot of one on one blocks and those guys,

1108
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, through the transition, everyone stepped up the best

1109
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: they could. I think we got the most out of

1110
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: our group, and I think it's promising what we can

1111
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: get out of the group with a few additions. You know,

1112
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: we talked a lot, Steve and I talked a lot

1113
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: last season about how difficult it was to indoctrinate those

1114
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: new members of the offensive line. They didn't have much

1115
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: of a preseason together. Guys were hurt. How long do

1116
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: you think it would take for an offensive line with

1117
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: what four new guys, at least four new guys have

1118
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: never really played that much in preseason to come together

1119
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: and be a functional group during the course of a

1120
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: regular season. Well, it depends. You know, there's a lot

1121
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: of ups and downs throughout the course of the season.

1122
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Injuries play a factor and that throws off some chemistry.

1123
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: But over my years being in my offensive line, it

1124
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: seems that that second year in a system is the

1125
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: largest jump that the offensive line group makes. You know,

1126
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: when you've had a year underneath underneath a particular system,

1127
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: working with certain quarterbacks, knowing time, they knowing what's expected

1128
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: now and you can expand a little bit more in

1129
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: your playbook and your play calling and things. Once these

1130
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: guys have got the fundamentals, the basis of the offense down,

1131
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: you can expand and I think you'll see that this year,

1132
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: or I'll put it this way. You should see that. Yeah, right?

1133
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: And and what how will that manifest itself? So, because

1134
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: I know you can tell when you watch a game,

1135
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: you know they're doing a better job and seeping through.

1136
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: What kind of is there statistical stuff you can look

1137
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: at that will tell you what the how good the

1138
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: offensive line is playing. Is it as simple as rushing

1139
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: yards and sacks given up? Or is it more than that?

1140
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: I would say the criteria I use is can the

1141
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks step up in the pocket? How often you know,

1142
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: not have Josh running and scrambling to you know, complete passes.

1143
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: Let's do what the play was designed to do, him

1144
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: to drop back, three steps, step up and throw as

1145
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: drive back five steps, step up and throw it. How

1146
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: often is that happening? That tells me, you know, what's

1147
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: going on with the offensive line. And also in the

1148
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: run game, it's not you know, are they breaking off

1149
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, big chunks of yardage, but are they consistently

1150
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, getting positive yards when needed. You know, sometimes

1151
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: you only need one yard, sometimes you only need two yards.

1152
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: Are those opportunities? Are they meeting those goals? That will

1153
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: tell you your success of your offensive linea overall, it's

1154
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 1: not always sacks because you know the dbs can cover

1155
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: the receivers in the quarterback doesn't see anyone. And that

1156
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean a whole lot in the in the grand

1157
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: scheme of things. But when you're running plays, when offensive

1158
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: coordinator cause to play, how often can he call a

1159
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: play and it's executed? And that tells you whether your

1160
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: offensive line in your offensive period is progressive. With Ruben Brown,

1161
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: who played nine years with the Bills, thirteen seasons in

1162
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, made nine Pro Bowls, Hey, Ruben, how close

1163
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: are the Bills the championship contention? From what you've seen

1164
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: and what you know, you played on a championship team

1165
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: in Chicago, how close do you think they are? They're close,

1166
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: They're close. I'm telling you I put all my emphasis

1167
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: up front on the line. I think one deep threat guy,

1168
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: one guy that can just run past the defense and

1169
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: take the top off it, and then the rest of

1170
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: that that configuration you can mess with. You can mess

1171
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: with blocking tight ends and receiving tight ends and backs

1172
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: out of the backfield of backs downhill or anything like that.

1173
00:59:55,320 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: But you start off strong line up front, you got

1174
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and you get a guy that can get

1175
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: behind the defense on a regular basis. So they'll have

1176
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: to honor it. The Bills have a chance to be

1177
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: where all the other teams were competing for the divisional

1178
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: title or into the super Bowl. They are there, They're

1179
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: that close. We just gotta tell Josh he's not dubbed fluting.

1180
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: Don't from fall around loose. I mean it, and I

1181
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: admire that when I saw him I'm speaking of in

1182
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: the place to play, when he tried to flip it

1183
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: over to the tight end. Yeah, you know, the games

1184
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: some actually yards and trust me, Steve, you know, we

1185
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: we feel it. I can understand what he was trying

1186
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: to do. But um, I can remember some of the

1187
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: great coaches just saying, you know, sometimes there's a limit

1188
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: on that play and just take it, eat it, and

1189
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: we'll live to fight another another day. Now. You know,

1190
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: sometimes there's magic with innovation and stuff like that. But

1191
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: that was a really, really risky time. Try to get

1192
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: some extra yardage right The tight end could have helped

1193
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: him too, he would have been paying a little bit

1194
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: more attention. But those types of things for him where

1195
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to feel like he has to do

1196
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: it all, and he has a supporting cast that he

1197
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: can run and then slide and get down, or hand

1198
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: the ball off to a good running game or pass

1199
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: the ball out to the good tight ends and deep

1200
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: threatned stuff like that where he's not doing too much.

1201
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: I think we got a recipe for a party at

1202
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I gotta ask you this too, And

1203
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 1: we just murph reddit in in the rundown just before

1204
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: we started this segment about the player reps meeting about

1205
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: a seven probably about a seventeen game schedule in the NFL.

1206
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? That seems to me

1207
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: pretty monumental to make a change like that, And I

1208
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: think it seems obvious too that they're, yeah, they'll get

1209
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: take seventeen now, they're gonna want eighteen further down? Yeah,

1210
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: but what are your thoughts about you know, one more

1211
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: game on the schedule. Uh, that game is a good

1212
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: bargaining chip for the union. If if the union, I

1213
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to play seventeen games, But if they did,

1214
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: I would say they need more players. I need to

1215
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: put more players on rosh hands down. Fifty two is

1216
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: not enough you need Look, College goes in with a hundred,

1217
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They got double jed. They

1218
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: got two, number seventeens, three number nine, four ninety nine. Um,

1219
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: if you want more games, you're gonna need more players.

1220
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 1: Just the what is it the attrition of the game,

1221
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: or just the body's not gonna handle it. I'm telling

1222
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: you it's College has too many games, if you ask me, right, Um,

1223
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: the pros there's a way finangle those preseason games into

1224
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: something meaningful. Maybe, but I don't see, you know, adding

1225
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: a seventeenth game with fifty two. Man, it's if that's brutal,

1226
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: that's torture. You know. Do you agree? See Yeah, I

1227
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: think yeah, roster sizes are huge part of it. But

1228
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: I also think, you know, just you also need to

1229
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: cut the players union and the players in general a

1230
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: bigger piece of the pie. You'll make it worth it, certainly.

1231
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: And I heard Richard Sherman earlier, and I've told Murph

1232
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: this a couple of times. Richard Sherman says, Hey, they're

1233
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: putting the league is putting a price on player's safety.

1234
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: And I understand his point, but really the players are

1235
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: the ones who set the price on player's safety. The

1236
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: league just takes the lowest bid. So whatever a player

1237
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: is willing to sign, that's who's gonna play in the NFL.

1238
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: Now the money's there and all of that, So I think,

1239
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: I think, you know, cut the pie a little bigger

1240
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: for the players, give them a bigger percentage of the

1241
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: total revenues. Give him a few more players because there's

1242
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: gonna be more guys to pay. And yeah, and I

1243
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: seventeen games could probably work. I know, it's just one

1244
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: more game, And I think, um, I know, every game

1245
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: has its ups and downs and chant and the opportunity

1246
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: for injury. But I think most of the guys, particularly

1247
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: in this day and age, know what they're walking into. Yeah. Yeah,

1248
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: and you know you could get hurt in practice, right,

1249
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: You could get hurt working out. You know, you might

1250
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: not even see the game, you know, So that's an

1251
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: issue that seventeen game is really the bargaining ship that

1252
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: the union needs and shit hang on to and get

1253
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: everything need possibly can from them from the teams because

1254
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: we rarely, you know, we get scared out of the

1255
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: fact that the players that's the NFL. There's no NFL

1256
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: without the players, right, you know, they all get together

1257
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, I want our pensions to

1258
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: be like baseball of basketball. Give us that or else

1259
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,959
Speaker 1: we're not coming out to play, and they'll go find

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01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: some semi pro guys to go and get themselves broken

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01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: up for a couple of weeks. But then those guys

1262
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 1: are also realized too, they're being used. So players, it's

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01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: in your hands. Don't be afraid what the fans are

1264
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna hate you for anything. What they think is normal anyway,

1265
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: So you just gotta bite the bullet and go for

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01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: what to truly, truly right that. I don't think the

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01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: fans see these and steam. We're older guys now speaking

1268
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: speaking from that perspective. You give up a ton to

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01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: be in the NFL. You know the sacrifices, but that

1270
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you should give up everything you know just

1271
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. I mean, you paid the

1272
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: carts in college to get to that point. So you know,

1273
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: come on, Jones has I'm a yacht that's bigger than

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01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: anyone in America's got. He got a fun house down

1275
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: there that he's he's printing money. You know, Um, everyone

1276
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: wants to do business with the NFL. Guys, get yourself

1277
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: set up the proper way. I mean, baseball is losing

1278
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: money and basketball is not doing that that great. But

1279
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: their guys are getting what they want. You know, those

1280
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: guys are getting what they want and coming into the

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01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: game and going out of the game, and we're behind

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01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: in that aspect of it. Um. And that's what today's

1283
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: a good day to remember someone like Gane Upshall for.

1284
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, the work that he and Paul Tagler, Blue

1285
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: and those guys did early on to start this process

1286
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: and get it to where it is right now. But

1287
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: it's now up to this group of guys and leadership

1288
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: to move it forward because the owners are winning. And listen,

1289
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't mind the owners winmen. I love Ralph Wilson.

1290
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: I love them. He did he did a great thing

1291
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: by me and he was great to us as players.

1292
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: But we have to push the envelope to get more

1293
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: for these guys. These guys definitely deserve more. Ruben Brown

1294
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: with us, I got one more issued it for you

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: to touch on, Reuben, and that's the Pro Football Hall

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01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: of Fame. A couple of weeks ago a new class

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: was put in, and now fifteen guys are going in

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01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame this year. And by

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01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: the way, neither you nor my partner here get a

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01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: whiff of consideration in the in the finalists room, which

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01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe neither you're both qualifying candidates. I'm giving

1302
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: up on the Pro Football Hall of Fame for a while,

1303
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: at least time, I'm walking away from it for a while.

1304
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: But give me your take on this year's class, maybe,

1305
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: and just the whole process which is gonna ry. I think,

1306
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: I think all of those guys are deserving, and I

1307
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: know I've seen the guy up close in person that

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: the guy sitting next to you is a Hall of Famer.

1309
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer. You know, Kenton may not

1310
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: have him in the Hall of Fame, but he is

1311
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: a Hall of So I paid more pride myself and

1312
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: hearing with the players that played during all our time

1313
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: say about other players, you know, and if they give

1314
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: you the nod, that's more valuable than any you know,

1315
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: Pro football Hall of Famer. If let's let's put it

1316
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: like this, Walter Payton walks in the room and acknowledge

1317
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: that Steve, Steve Tasker is one of the best players

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01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: that he's known. What's more important. That's right, Yeah, I

1319
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: agree with you. It's it's a great it's a great feeling,

1320
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: and you're right, You're right, Rub, And it does. To

1321
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: earn the respect of the love and respect of the

1322
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: guys you played against as well as the guys you

1323
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: played with is a real it's a real accomplishment. That's

1324
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: one of the things that I cherish most about my career,

1325
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: asked Steve. And I take that too. You know, the

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is it's what it is, you know

1327
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's a club. They do their thing,

1328
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: they choose who they choose, and we're happy for all

1329
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: of those guys that go in because we know they

1330
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: are all with great players. You know, they're a lot in.

1331
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 1: There's a lot more like myself and Steve that aren't

1332
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, I think of I mean there's

1333
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: names the offensive line wise, that's ridiculous. I mean Mark

1334
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: Stepnawski was outstandard center for the Dallas Cowboy and their

1335
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run and he doesn't get a sniff. I mean,

1336
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: he was all pro. He went he played down in Tennessee.

1337
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: He was a pro bowler there. He's done a lot

1338
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: of great things. Richmond Webb, I mean, asked Bruce Smith.

1339
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,919
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith would tell you Richmond Webb's Hall of Fame tackle.

1340
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: So you know, if Bruce Smith says, hey, man, you're

1341
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: one of the best that I've ever faced, I think

1342
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: that holds more weight. And you know, guys should just

1343
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: have fun with the Hall of Fame. You know. It's

1344
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: it's it's like our local newspaper saying, who's the all

1345
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: stars in town? Right? Yeah? I was, Yeah, I was

1346
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: the all star in town down in twinty River, Virginia.

1347
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: What are you up to these days? Ruben? We haven't

1348
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: talking a while. How are you keeping busy these days?

1349
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: I tried to do nothing but good. I have too

1350
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: yea in high school. My daughter's fifteen, she's in the

1351
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: tenth grade, and my son hopefully, hopefully, I pray he

1352
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: graduates this year. Um, and he's doing a little wrestling.

1353
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: But that's my main focus, just taking care of the kids.

1354
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: So I'm getting settled and I may get into some

1355
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: stuff down the road. A few of my friends are

1356
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: bast come and do some speaking for offensive line stuff,

1357
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: but you know, I kind of like just watch it

1358
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: because man, great talking to you, Ruben. Great catching up

1359
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: with your Ruben. Thanks for being on you guys. Forgot

1360
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: how long wind I was. No, you're perfect man. We

1361
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: missed mission manat hey, when you come back in town,

1362
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: give us a call. All right, we'll expect you. Will.

1363
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: I love seeing both of you guys, And listen, this

1364
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: is going out on the air and Buffalo. I may

1365
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,919
Speaker 1: not be in Buffalo, but Buffalo is my family always

1366
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: will Jim Steve, are you guys created that I'm a

1367
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: part of him? Very fortunately? Put Murphy, you know how

1368
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: close you are to us, you know, um And I

1369
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: miss you guys dearly and I look forward to seeing

1370
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: you again and love all the Buffalo. Thanks. Rub Ruben

1371
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: Brown perennial Pro Bowl guard. Nine Pro Bowl appearances, thirteen

1372
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: seasons in the NFL, nine of them here in Buffalo.

1373
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: He is a piece of working and it's easier to

1374
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: see White played so long, right. I mean, he's just

1375
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: he's got, he's thoughtful and that stuff. I was writing

1376
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: some of the down stuff. He said, you know, how

1377
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: do you evaluate offensive line play? He says, Listen, does

1378
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: the play work like it was? Designed to work. That's

1379
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,560
Speaker 1: all your offensive line, he says. Did your quarterback have

1380
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: to run around and create something? We all love that with,

1381
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: you know, the Lamar Jackson's apparently home to Josh Allen's

1382
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: who's fun to see. Because if your offense can run

1383
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: the play and it looks like it's supposed to look

1384
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: on paper, you got your offensive line work in the

1385
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: way it's supposed to work. And that's a that's a

1386
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: great insight. He's smart. I didn't think about it, you know,

1387
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: that's true. Our next guest is got a hunch and

1388
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: a strong feeling that Brady's out of the wingland. He

1389
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have sources, he doesn't have anybody telling him this.

1390
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: But we're going to talk to Christin Fourier, former NFL

1391
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: tight end when we return about Brady's future. Come on

1392
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 1: back One Build's Live, presented by Kalida Health from the

1393
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. I'll come back

1394
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: one BILS Live. John Murphy, Steve Casker coming to you

1395
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: from Orchard Park, New York today from the Seneca Studio.

1396
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,919
Speaker 1: It is one of the main questions of this NFL offseason.

1397
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 1: In fact, our listeners the other day in a Twitter

1398
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: polls that it was the number one question of the offseason.

1399
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 1: What becomes of Tom Brady? Where does he go? On

1400
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,839
Speaker 1: the line with us now as a former Brady teammate,

1401
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: played tight end in the league for the Patriots Seattle, Washington, Carolina,

1402
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 1: total of thirteen seasons in the NFL, two Super Bowl

1403
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: championships with the New England Patriots. Former Patriots tight end

1404
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: Christian Fourier joined us now a radio host on w

1405
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 1: EEI or radio guests the other day who says the

1406
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: Patriots are done with Brady Christian, John Murphy, Steve Tasker

1407
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: Upper in Buffalo, thanks for coming on. You're not saying

1408
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: this is funny, It's so funny, like like I don't

1409
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: know four hours that I talked about that, that one

1410
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: comment that was me kind of playing around, like you know,

1411
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: having a grand old time with a segment. That's the

1412
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 1: one piece that everyone keeps pulling out without any context whatsoever.

1413
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: So whatever any context, what's the context? Well, I do

1414
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: feel like in my head, in my mind when I

1415
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: was thinking about this one, I felt like everybody was

1416
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: giving bogus information. Everybody was was just you know, mucking

1417
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: things up. Either from an agent's point of view, an

1418
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: owner's point of view. I was like, this is ridiculous,

1419
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 1: Like in my head then I was like, well, what

1420
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,839
Speaker 1: would have Like why is it Why isn't it likely

1421
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are willing to move on from him?

1422
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: Like why isn't it Why isn't it that the Patriots,

1423
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: based on the information that I've seen, aren't saying, you

1424
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: know what, like we're not gonna pay him twenty five

1425
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: million dollars. Hell, we don't want to be playing fifteen

1426
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: million dollars. I mean, because he's just not worth it

1427
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: and it's time for us to move on. Because that's

1428
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,480
Speaker 1: usually what happens, you know. I think people get their

1429
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: vision and their opinions get clouded because it's Brady and

1430
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: he's always been there and he's never been anywhere else,

1431
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 1: and they can't even fathom him playing in another jersey.

1432
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: My point is, if you play long enough, you end

1433
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: up being on another team, right, Like, that's that's the rule.

1434
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: Like guys like you know, Teddy Bruski, that's the exception

1435
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: to the rule. Like, and there's others, but most guys

1436
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman exception to the rule, Montana far Peyton Manning.

1437
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: They're no different than anybody else. They all play for

1438
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: another team. Why because the team doesn't like him anymore. No,

1439
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: because they decide that the contracts don't work. No one

1440
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: is willing to compromise. No one's willing to take less.

1441
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: And no, by the way, you're gonna end at some

1442
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: point time. Should we be ready now or should we

1443
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: be reader two years when we know you're done. Yeah.

1444
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: And then the one of the things about that that

1445
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: has made Brady different than everybody else is he always

1446
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: had this feeling for some reason, he had a great

1447
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: deal of affection for the Patriots franchise, either whether it's

1448
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft, whether it's just the emblem on the helmet,

1449
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: for whatever. He's a guy who's playing way below and

1450
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: has signed new deals at way below market value. And

1451
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: it seems from the outside looking in that he's doing

1452
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: it because he just wants he wants to win, of course,

1453
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: but he so wants to be a part of that organization.

1454
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: And maybe that's overblown from the people outside looking in,

1455
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: because it looked like he was willing to do that

1456
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: for an organization that took this chance on him as

1457
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: this huge steal of the draft in the sixth round

1458
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, where he still has this not in

1459
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 1: his stomach about how much he owes this franchise. What

1460
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: about all of that stuff about the affection he has

1461
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: for Robert Kraft, about Craft's affection for him, about his

1462
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: willingness for so many years to sacrifice personal prosperity for

1463
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: the good of the team. As that all disappeared, Yeah, no,

1464
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it ever will disappear just because he

1465
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: plays for another team. I don't think that goes away,

1466
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: Like there's always going to be an affection and some

1467
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: sentimental value towards that always. He's been there twenty years,

1468
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: But why can't we say, listen, it's been twenty years.

1469
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: This is unbelievable, unprecedented. I can't believe we've done and

1470
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: accomplish what we've accomplished. And just because you leave doesn't

1471
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: mean that we don't love you or that we don't

1472
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: respect you. They'll still be a troll, there'll still be

1473
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: a statue in front of Gilette Stadium. So to me,

1474
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: I feel like there's just this uneasiness about it, and

1475
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: there's this Hey, let's control the narrative, because nobody wants

1476
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: to be blamed for him playing in another jersey, and

1477
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: I and and you can say, ah, you know Joe Montana,

1478
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah he was traded, but still they traded him. Brett

1479
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: Farve have they had Aaron Rodgers, but they still got

1480
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: rid of Brett Farve. Peyton Manning, but he had a

1481
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: neck injury, they still allowed him to walk out of Indie.

1482
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: So three of the three of the greatest quarterbacks will

1483
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: ever do it, three of the greatest quarterbacks. And during

1484
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, all three of those guys, including Brady

1485
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: at four, we're all sitting there hanging out together. You

1486
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: think they're not talking about their experiences and you know,

1487
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: and and what it meant to them, And you know,

1488
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: because I think there can be new life and new

1489
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: energy brought to a guy like Brady that's been in

1490
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: the same situation for twenty years. It gets stale, it

1491
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: gets mundane. You just want a new experience. And it's

1492
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: only part time. It's only two years, not playing three

1493
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: years somewhere else, it's two So I just thought all

1494
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: that together and I didn't talk to anybody. I was

1495
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: just like, I just felt like I was reading it wrong,

1496
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, why is it that maybe it's

1497
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: not that Brady's not gonna stay. Maybe they don't. Maybe

1498
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: they want him to move on. And part of that

1499
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 1: is with the offer that they would give him. Hey,

1500
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: we want you to stay, but here's twelve million dollars.

1501
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: Well that's not gonna get me to stay. So, Christian

1502
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: Fourier our guests, Brady's former teammate, Well, what do you

1503
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 1: think motivates Brady in this decision? Christian? What do you

1504
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: think he's looking for money or a chance to win

1505
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: at a different place, or a chance to win into England.

1506
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: What do you think is driving him? Uh? You know,

1507
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if um, if you could sit there

1508
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: and say, okay, what's motivating me? Like when I was

1509
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: a free agent, like I couldn't sit there and be

1510
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: like I couldn't pick and choose. I you know, I

1511
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: went to whoever it was gonna pay me, you know,

1512
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: especially when I got older, it was like, okay, how

1513
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: can I get another year? But for him, he's just

1514
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna I don't know if I think I think money

1515
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: is obviously important, right, I think the ability to win Now,

1516
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever that looks like, whether it's defense, whatever,

1517
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, But at the same time, if the Patriots

1518
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: are done and you only have two teams, one of

1519
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: them's Tampa, the other one's La, So like, how much

1520
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: power do you really have as far as you're just

1521
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: as far as what's important to you because you have

1522
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: two options? And if visually Tampa would make me want

1523
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: to throw up if I saw him in a Tampa

1524
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: Bay Jersey, Like La, do you really want to move

1525
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: to La? Like visually, there's some pushback, but when it

1526
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 1: all comes to be, if the Patriots aren't willing to

1527
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: pay him what he thinks he's worked, and two other

1528
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: teams are, but neither one of them are really you know,

1529
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 1: his cup of tea, then he has no choice. I

1530
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: just feel like that's a big part of it. And

1531
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: like assuming that everyone's just gonna get what they want

1532
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: is insane. No, somebody's gonna somebody's gonna there's gonna be

1533
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: a painful, um, come to Jesus moment for somebody, Like

1534
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 1: who's that gonna be. Is it gonna be the Patriots

1535
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: that they don't have Brady retiring in a Patriots jersey?

1536
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: Or is it gonna be Brady playing in some other city?

1537
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: Or he doesn't know anyone doesn't have any relationships, doesn't

1538
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,799
Speaker 1: have a you know, he's not doesn't have a routine.

1539
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: You know, Um, somebody's gonna have to, you know, take

1540
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: it on the chin. What do you think the Patriots

1541
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: do if they're gonna move on from Tom Brady? Who's

1542
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like they should have a plan

1543
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: just in case. What do you think that might be? Yeah,

1544
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: it's funny, Steve, I was thinking about that. I'm like, like,

1545
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: what's their alternative? Like how do they move on? Like

1546
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? So they have Stidham, But

1547
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what Stidham is. I mean, he's a

1548
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: rookie last year, he's gonna be a second year guy.

1549
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: Didn't see him enough. You would assume, I would think

1550
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: that they would have to bring somebody in, right, They

1551
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: would have to be somebody an older quarterback. You know,

1552
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: that's just you know, you know, I don't know, trustworthy

1553
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: and smart and you know it's not reckless, you know,

1554
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: not like Jameis Winston, but somebody a little bit more boring,

1555
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: like Andy Dalton. You know, I say that with a

1556
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: lot of respect because Andy's played a long time and

1557
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: maybe in a different system he'd thrive, you know, like

1558
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: maybe he would do you know, he wouldn't have to

1559
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 1: win the game every time. So that is an important

1560
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: question because does the fact that they don't have an

1561
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 1: alternative mean that they're they will overpay for Brady? I say,

1562
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, because the cap ramifications and the dead

1563
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 1: cap really kind of, you know, tye are kind of

1564
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: screw them as far as what's capable of what they're

1565
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: capable of doing. So I think, um, but I do

1566
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: think they'll replace them, obviously, I just don't think. I

1567
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 1: don't have a clue who would be Christian. The interest

1568
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo is pretty apparent, mostly because the Bills

1569
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: and many of their fans might feel like someone else

1570
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: can win this division now, especially if Brady's out of

1571
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: the picture is yet realistic. What do you think? Oh yeah,

1572
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: oh yeah, listen, I've been teasing Buffalo for years, for years,

1573
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: and but I but but I was also I want

1574
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: to say, I'm gonna take care of the first one

1575
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: to say that they they had figured it out. I mean,

1576
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: because we had guys former players and come on our show,

1577
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just like their head coach,

1578
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: I like their um, their ownership. I like the assistant coaches.

1579
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: I just like, I just like what they had built.

1580
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: As far as uh, it's us against them. We're not

1581
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna take anybody's We're not gonna let anybody push us over.

1582
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 1: It just seemed like the attitude had changed in the past,

1583
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: like as it was in the past, and they really

1584
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 1: thought that they were a year or two away and

1585
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: not that. Um, you know, what's your quarterbacks? Nay? Oh

1586
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 1: my guy, I just forgot it all. Josh. I don't

1587
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: know if Josh Allen is the answer, but he's been

1588
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: the best you know, alternative in my opinion up there

1589
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: for a while. M So. And you know John Brian

1590
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: Dable staying there, Frazier staying there. Like having a lot

1591
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: of consistency on your offense and defensive staff. I think

1592
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 1: that's important. You know. Um, I don't know. I think

1593
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: they're on their way. I gotta ask you this too.

1594
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: There cannot be as like you said, you mentioned the names.

1595
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: It's like there's Teddy Bridgewater out there, there's Andy Dalton

1596
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: out there, there's these all these quarterback names that are

1597
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: out there. If Philip Rivers is going to be available,

1598
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: But there cannot be a lack of confidence in New

1599
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: England and the coaching staff and inside the walls at

1600
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: Patriot Place that they can't win without a with a

1601
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: different quarterback. I think they've got to think that they

1602
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: can win just as many games as they need to

1603
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 1: with whoever it turns out to be. Yeah. I always

1604
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: think of like, like great coaches like Pete Carroll Harbaugh,

1605
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, you know, those great coaches, like they'll they'll

1606
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: they'll cycle through good years with bad years, and then

1607
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: they'll have like three good years years whether they're in

1608
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 1: the mix, and then they'll have to kind of reshuffle

1609
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: and restructure. You know. I think eventually that'll be Bill Like,

1610
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: that'll be the Patriots like that. He's a great coach,

1611
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: he's smart. Teams are always well prepared. There's a lot

1612
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: of support from ownership. They do it the right way.

1613
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: They'll put together a good roster. They'll always be competitive,

1614
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: but they just won't always be the number one, you

1615
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: know choice to win the Super Bowl. You know, they'll

1616
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: have to you know, you know, fight and kick and

1617
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: crawl and you know, and try to rebuild and hopefully

1618
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 1: they make some good decisions in the draft. But the

1619
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,799
Speaker 1: one person they never have to worry about was Brady.

1620
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: So they won't have that luxury anymore because that guy's

1621
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: not coming around again. Ever, when do we get an

1622
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 1: answer on Brady, Christian? Free agency starts March sixteenth to eighteenth,

1623
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: or we have to wait until then, or will it

1624
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: come sooner. Well, what I've learned is I have to

1625
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: make sure I have a disclaimer saying this is my opinion. Okay,

1626
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: it's my opinion. Yeah. So no, I don't I think

1627
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: he goes to free agency, and I think he's gone.

1628
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't think say I think

1629
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: part of him wanting to be a free agent was

1630
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: to make sure he had control of his life and

1631
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 1: his career and make the decisions that were best for

1632
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: him and his life, not just taking what was next

1633
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: in line, which was an extension without any control over it. So, yes,

1634
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: I think he becomes a free agent. I think he

1635
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: plays for another team, and I think everyone who just

1636
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: got to learn to deal with it, all right, I

1637
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: can deal with that. Yeah, we don't have a problem. Yeah,

1638
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be. We do not have a problem with seeing

1639
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: Tom Brady playing for somebody else. So thanks Christian, good

1640
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: to talk with you. Thank you very much. Ali, guys,

1641
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: see you later. Christin Fourier, a former NFL tight end,

1642
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: does radio now in Boston. His opinion, his gut feeling,

1643
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: is that Bradys heads the free agency in a couple

1644
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: of weeks. Does that alter your opinion? Steve Tasker, No, No,

1645
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of does, because I'm you know,

1646
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: everybody's saying, Wow, the longer this goes, the more likely

1647
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,440
Speaker 1: it is that he'll leave. And I'm kind of subscribe,

1648
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 1: subscribe having to that a little bit too, I would

1649
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: be I don't know, it just seems I'd be shocked

1650
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: that that they haven't had conversations on going at least

1651
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: to say, hey, what's the story or whatever? But um,

1652
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: how about or what are you thinking or whatever? But

1653
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: since I think there has been this gap in communication,

1654
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: it does seem more and more likely he's gonna hit

1655
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 1: free agency. And it just occurred to me, I said,

1656
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: you know, we here in Buffalo don't have a problem

1657
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady playing a different helmet. What's gonna happen

1658
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: if he goes to the Dolphins, right, I mean, he's

1659
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 1: not gonna go to New York. They've got Darnald in

1660
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: that and he's not coming here, but if he goes

1661
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: to another division, come out opponent to the Dolphins place

1662
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: for Brian Flores, his old defensive coordinator. What do you

1663
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: think we're talking about the combine in two weeks? Every day,

1664
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Yeah, every day. I got a break here.

1665
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: We're coming back with more. One Bill slide presented by

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01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: Kalida Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This

1667
01:26:52,080 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hey, welcome back, one Bills five,

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01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker. We have ignored, we have

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01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: abandoned our Twitter poll and it's a good one. We

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Speaker 1: shouldn't step the question on Twitter poday. We got interest

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Speaker 1: other interesting things we're talking about. We did have a

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Speaker 1: couple of interesting conversations, three interesting guests so far, Chris Brown,

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01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: Ruben Brown, and Christian Fourier. Tony Browns have you asked me?

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Speaker 1: Twitter pole is a good one and it's about rookies

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01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: making an impact. Which twenty nineteen Bills rookie you could

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01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: take the biggest step forward next year? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Look, the Bills had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good rookie class, but somebody's gonna take another step forward

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Speaker 1: in their second year. Who would it be? Would it

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01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: be At Oliver? Writer from was the Sports Illustrated NFL

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01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 1: dot com can't remember ESPN, that's what it is? Right

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01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: from ESPN says it's going to be At Oliver? Is

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Speaker 1: it running back Devin Singletary, Is it tight End, Dawson

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01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 1: Knox is or somebody else? Got seven hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: votes in so far in the first two hours. Forty

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Speaker 1: one percent of you say it's at Oliver, thirty five

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Speaker 1: percent say it's Devin Singletary, and twenty two percent say

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Speaker 1: it's Dawson Knox, two percent of somebody else in mind?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Let's read some of the

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Speaker 1: tweets on the tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills from

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01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dawson Knox will probably catch more passes between now

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Speaker 1: an opening day than he did the whole time at Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: He'll make a huge leap. I guess he's talking about practice.

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Speaker 1: Okay from Al Al says, this was a tough one. Good.

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01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: We liked the tough Twitter polls. This was a tough

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01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: one in the end, Dawson Knox because after last season,

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01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: he has the most room to grow. I think Singletary

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: and Oliver were right on the pace they should have

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01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: been all right, that's a different take, but yeah, I

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01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: agree with that. You want to read the third one,

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01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah from Tiffany, get that motor running next season. With

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01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 1: his overall skill set, I hope to see him be

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01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: the focal point of the offense. He's quick and elusive

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01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: running the ball. They need to design plays that utilize

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01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: his ability to catch the ball and get him into space,

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01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: creating big plays down the field. So she thinks Devin

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01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: Singletary's a little behind schedule by the way he was used.

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01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: And let's face it, we took calls on this all

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01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: the time, what do you think about this? And we

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01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: had I can't remember who the guest was on set

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01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: that during the week we were talking about the offensive

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01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: line and they said one of the things that one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons they may or may not sign Quentin

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01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Spain back to the roster is because of his unathletics,

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01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: and he's a big, strong, powerful run blocker, and he's

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01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good pass protector. He didn't give up a

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01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: sack all year. A very good pass protector, but he

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01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 1: wasn't able to get out in front of screens. He

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01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: didn't run well, and the Bills were noticeably lacking in

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01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: that aspect of their offense. Didn't have many screen passes.

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01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't a big part of their play calling, and

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01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: people are like, why did they do that night? Well,

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01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: one of the reasons is you don't have guys that

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01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: can do it. And it's not about Devin Singletary or

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01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. It's more about the guys who have to

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01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: get out in front and run down the field. We've

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01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: seen spots highlights of Devin Singletary where you've got uh

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01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: uh a couple of offensive line space. H Mitch Moore

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01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: seems to be athletic enough. U the right guard whose

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01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: name escaping me right now, not to forward, but he's

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01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: right tackle right guard John Feliciano. Feliciano can get out

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01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: and run a little bit as well, but they're not

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01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: They're not guys that get out and get in front

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01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 1: of the screens. They didn't have those guys. It wasn't

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01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: their strength, so they didn't run them very much. So

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01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: and and our last Twitter person, Tiffany said, Damn, that's

1741
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: what they gotta do. They gotta get the ball into

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01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Devin singles Harry's hand with some space, get him some

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01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: the ball with some space, with some blockers out in

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01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: front of him, and yeah, you're gonna you're gonna snap

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01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: off some big plays. So I think if if they

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01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: don't bring Quentin Spain back and there, and the guard

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01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: they do bring in or replace him with, has the

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01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 1: ability to run, you can bet they'll finally start to

1749
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: call plays like that and they'll get some success out

1750
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 1: and get some more big plays out of their passing

1751
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: game that don't have to be thrown ninety nine yards

1752
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 1: down the field. We're gonna talk more about a lot

1753
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: more about Devin Singletary in the third and final hour

1754
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 1: of the show. We got our State of the Bills segment,

1755
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about the running backs, all of them,

1756
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: not just having all of them. Where they're at with

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Speaker 1: this running back group, where they hope to go and

1758
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: is there any help coming in the draft that's coming

1759
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: up next hour we'll take more of your thoughts on

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01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: which rookie you could make the biggest leap next season.

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01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: We'll take your phone calls, put them on the air,

1762
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: and we'll take your tweets as well, and we're gonna

1763
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: take some. It's Friday. We'd like to do this now.

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01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: On Friday's hit the mailbag, right, We're gonna hit the mailbag.

1765
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: What do you think about anything about the Bills? Send

1766
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 1: in your mailbag by a twitter at One goes Live

1767
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: and we'll answer your questions, talk about what you want

1768
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: to talk about. All of that coming up next on

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Speaker 1: the show stick Around One Goes Live, presented by Kalidah

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Speaker 1: Health from the Seneca Studio, Seneca Resort and Casino, Nothing

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Speaker 1: Comes Close. Hills Radio Network Sports started the third hour

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Speaker 1: with a sports update from One Bills Live, Greg Olson.

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01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: The Bills are waiting to hear whether the free agent

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01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: tight end is going to sign with him. He's also

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01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: reportedly according to Adam Schefter or espn Olson, in the

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01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: midst of negotiations with the Bills, Redskins, and Seahawks, each

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01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: of whom met with a veteran tight end over the

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01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: last two weeks. He's thirty five years old. He'll be

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01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: thirty five next month. Just parted ways with the Panthers

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01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: after nine seasons there. Caught fifty two passes for five

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01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: hundred ninety seven yards and two touchdowns last season. After

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01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: two injury marred seasons, greg Olson may have a decision

1783
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later as to where he will play

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01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 1: his football next season. The Executive Committee of the NFL

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01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Players Association and player reps are going to meet in

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01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: DC and Watchington, DC next week Thursday. It's a potentially

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01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: consequential meeting for CBA talks. They've given the NFL a

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01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: list of final issues. If they are resolved that their

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01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 1: liking their like, they will be a vote. It's about

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01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: the seventeen game schedule. It's about a ten years CBA.

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01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 1: It's about a bigger share of the revenue cut for players.

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01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: It's about a lot of things. Some high profile player

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01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 1: reps have spoken out against the idea of a seventeen

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01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 1: game season on the grounds that it adds health and

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01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,799
Speaker 1: safety risks to players in an already dangerous sport. Tyrod

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01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Taylor could be the starter for the Los Angeles Chargers

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01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: at quarterback, so says head coach Anthony Lynn. He's ack

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01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 1: up a quarterback. Lynn told AM five to seventy LA Sports,

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01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: we could not have a better backup right now, Tyrod

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Speaker 1: Taylor the second lowest interception percentage in NFL history compared

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01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: to the guy he would replace, Philip Rivers, who turned

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01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: the ball over twenty three times during last season's five

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01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: and eleven campaign, or the Charger Josh Norman is now

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01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: a free agent. Washington Redskins going to release him. Their choice,

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01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: not mine, Norman, says. Myles Garrett says Mason Rudolph called

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01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 1: him a racial slur. That's what sparked their brawl at

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01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: the end of their November game. Mid November. Garrett just

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01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 1: had his NFL suspension ended this past week and the

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01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Savers getting set. Their next game is Sunday night.

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01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,839
Speaker 1: They hosted the Toronto Maple Leaf Savers defeated the Columbus

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01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 1: Blue Jackets four three and overtime. Victor Olipson scored twice,

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Speaker 1: including the game winner. Got a beautiful pass from Jack

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01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: Eichel for that goal. What do you think when that happened,

1814
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: Steve thought, did you jump out of your seat we win,

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01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: grab your coat and ran run for your car? What

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01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: kind of a fan. Are you um a little bit

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01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,799
Speaker 1: about this warm flu? Say, well, I was actually halfway

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01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: down the ninety going home now, yeah, I know. Now

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01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 1: it's great, that's great, it was great. Those are such

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01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: fun such funny environment. Don't leave early. You can't leave early.

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01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 1: You can't leave early, not in Buffalo, anywhere. It's it's

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01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: a rule in our house. We don't leave events, movies,

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01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: church games. We don't leave early. Oh people leave church

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01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: early all the time. Are you kidding me? Okay, they do.

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01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: People have all the time. Hey, we got locked on

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01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 1: on here for this final hour and we got a

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Speaker 1: wide open and you're welcome to join us eight three

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Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Let me start with a Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: because there's an ESPN writer who says that Devin Singletary

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01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: at Oliver Dawson Knox. He says at Oliver is going

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01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: to make a big leap forward in year two, and

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Speaker 1: we put that up as our Twitter poll. What do

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Speaker 1: you think the Twitter poll which rookie last year is

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01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: poise for a big jump ahead in his second year.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think it will be? On the Twitter poll?

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Speaker 1: Forty two forty one percent say it's at Oliver, the

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Speaker 1: first round pick a year ago. Thirty four percent say

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01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: it's Devin Singletary, twenty two percent say it's Dawson Knox,

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01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 1: two percent say it's somebody else. What do you think?

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01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: Give us a call? Eight O three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Many ideas on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: on this. Phil tweets in, I think Singletary will be

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01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 1: the best of the three, but I think he already

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01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: was last year. Oliver will also greatly improve and will

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01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: be scary good. But Knox make the biggest leap. He's

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01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: got the most room for improvement. He will be a beast.

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Speaker 1: I like that answer. Jack tweets in, I voted other,

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01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 1: but Shan Joseph did not play as a rookie. Being

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01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 1: on i R all year, he showed he was a

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01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,600
Speaker 1: thumper who fits the defense very well in preseason. With

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01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 1: Zoe's retirement, he's undecked to take the Sam linebacker spot

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01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: and be impactful. That's that's an interesting take, and it's

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01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: true if if Bill Shan Joseph gets on the field,

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01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: takes over for Lorenzo Alexander and has a Lorenzo Alexander

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01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: type of year. Yeah, Lorenzo was was a kind of

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01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: a rotational player in linebacking corps at the end of

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01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: the scene. But he's playing special teams into it. He

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01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 1: took a lot of snaps. If a Shan Joseph can

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Speaker 1: do that, that'll be a huge boost for the Bills defense,

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01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 1: no question about it. Is he big enough? Sean Joseph?

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01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: What do you think? Six one? I know he had

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01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: some he had to he had put on some bulk,

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you know, and had a year to

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Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. I haven't seen him obviously since the

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01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: Bills left here at the end or at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of January. That's the only That's not the only. That'd

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Speaker 1: be the major question I would have about Boshan Joseph.

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Speaker 1: He's two hundred and thirty pounds six feet one inches tall.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he's big enough to demand that position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's always a question. But we've noted many

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01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 1: times that the league's getting lighter. That's one of the

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01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: reasons the the Ravens had the success they did this

1875
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 1: year is because they were built for a big power

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01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,879
Speaker 1: running game and everybody else was built for pass coverage.

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Speaker 1: The defenses were built for pass coverage, so they got

1878
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 1: a little boost from that, I think. So they tried

1879
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: to go counterintuitive to what the league trend was gonna be,

1880
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: and they got you know, of course, and then they

1881
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 1: had some great players as well. I meant Lamar Jackson's

1882
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 1: the MVP, But I think it did cause a lot

1883
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 1: of problems for a lot of people having to kind

1884
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 1: of bear up in a running game where you've got

1885
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty or two hundred and twenty five

1886
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 1: pound linebackers. So Bashan could is probably big enough to

1887
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 1: play there. M For me, it's always been the bigger

1888
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 1: you are, the more durable you are, and therefore the

1889
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: more available you are. So we'll see if he can

1890
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: if he can stand up to it. Send in your

1891
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: responses to that question on Twitter. Which twenty nineteen Bill's

1892
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: rookie could make the biggest league in twenty twenty. All right, now,

1893
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little thing we'd like to do

1894
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: at least once a week as we get set a

1895
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,560
Speaker 1: week from Monday to head to the combine. We'll do

1896
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 1: more of these next week. Stay of the Bills, each position,

1897
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: What do they have, what do they need? And today

1898
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna do running backs. We've done tight ends one

1899
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: day last week, we did offensive line earlier this week.

1900
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 1: Let's do running backs today. What the Bills have. Let's

1901
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: first talk about what they have. They have motor, they

1902
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 1: have Devin Singletary, last year's third round pick, got one

1903
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty carries, as I pointed out earlier in

1904
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 1: the show, still on his rookie contract, three years remaining. Obviously,

1905
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary will be the focal point of their run.

1906
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: That's what the running game, that's what they have, and

1907
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 1: that's a good place to start. T J Yelden, one

1908
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: year remaining on his two year deal signed last offseason,

1909
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: counts one point nine against the camp this year. I

1910
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: don't know where his future lies, if the Bill part

1911
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 1: of ways with Yeldon or not. Christian Wade remains Bill's

1912
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: property via international allocation. He signed a reserve futures contract already.

1913
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: He's the rugby player from United Kingdom. He's on the roster,

1914
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: and the fullback Patrick DeMarco one year left on a

1915
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: four year deal, counts two point three five against the

1916
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 1: cap in twenty twenty. Those first four, you're counting all

1917
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: four of those guys back. Steve Yeah, I think so.

1918
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: I think they'll be back in training camp with him off.

1919
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: TJ Yeah. T J. Yelden may have a chance to

1920
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 1: be sidestep because if you if you cut him, you

1921
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: get one point nine back on the cap. But none

1922
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 1: of those numbers that you're talking about for any of

1923
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 1: these guys are backbreaking or even they are not even

1924
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 1: a dot on the radar. It's just not that much.

1925
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,919
Speaker 1: Christian Wade, certainly, they're gonna bring him back after the preseason.

1926
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: He had a year ago to see if he's built

1927
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: on it now that and don't forget too you and

1928
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 1: me and everybody else. We got to see him in

1929
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 1: the preseason last year and he looked great. But when

1930
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: they put him on the practice squad, that means he's

1931
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: practicing every day. He's better than he was. He's learning,

1932
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: he's going through stuff. He's he's a professional football player,

1933
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: and he's gonna a guy like him who just came

1934
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 1: in and started learning the game. He's gonna get better

1935
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,600
Speaker 1: and better and better fast. So where I think we

1936
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 1: have a chance to see a much better Christian Wade

1937
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: this preseason. Then we even did last year when he

1938
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 1: snapped off all those big plays. So I'm really excited

1939
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: to see him play. So I think there's he's definitely

1940
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 1: gonna be there. Pat DeMarco, he's not going anywhere for me.

1941
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll certainly bring him to training camp. So yeah,

1942
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: I think all four of those top guys will be there.

1943
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 1: Sonoras Perry, well, I think he's a free agent now right,

1944
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: and Frank Gore of course, so those two guys, they

1945
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 1: could resign sonoras Perry, I wouldn't. I would see him

1946
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: probably giving him another one year deal like he had.

1947
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: But for those top four, yeah, I think all four

1948
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 1: of those guys will be back for training camp. I

1949
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: wonder about I wonder about three of those four, the

1950
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 1: top four. I wonder about t J. Yelden. If they

1951
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 1: can do better than t J. Yelden, I think they

1952
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: would do better. I think they'd try. You know, he

1953
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: didn't play much last year. He really didn't get many

1954
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 1: chances last year, Yelden, So I would I would worry

1955
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: about him and what I don't know what they think

1956
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 1: of him. I'd be interested to see Christian Wade. I

1957
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: still think is a long shot, Steven. You know, there

1958
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: might come a point where the will say, look, we've

1959
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,600
Speaker 1: invested a year in this guy. We kept him on

1960
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 1: the roster for a year as a what a practice

1961
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: squad player last year, signed him to a reserve futures contract.

1962
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 1: Guess he had a couple of spectacular plays in the

1963
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: preseason preseason games, but you know, there's just uncertainty about

1964
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: how much of a role, how much he has to

1965
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 1: make up to learn this game and learn how to

1966
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: train for this game. I'm sure he spent a lot

1967
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: of time doing that this offseason. And Pat DeMarco one

1968
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: year left on a four year contract. You're gonna make

1969
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 1: me look at how old he is? Um two point

1970
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: three five million against the calf for a guy who

1971
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I think DeMarco has a lot to offer,

1972
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 1: but you know, it becomes for the Bills, it becomes

1973
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 1: he's thirty thirty years old, he'll be thirty one in April.

1974
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: But the Bills have become how much do we want

1975
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: to pay a fullback? I'm now I'm looking up his

1976
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: snap counts because he didn't get a ton. Pat de

1977
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: Marco played fifteen Is that right? Fifteen percent of the snaps. Yeah,

1978
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money for a guy who pays

1979
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of snaps sixteen percent of snap Well, I mean,

1980
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 1: I know, it's like two point three. If they cut him,

1981
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: it's two point three five against the cap. I hate.

1982
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's the world we live in. I guess

1983
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 1: that's not that much money. None of these guys are

1984
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 1: You got a first round you got a third round

1985
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: draft pick, t J. Yelden who's making less than two

1986
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, Christian Wade who's not making anything.

1987
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: And Pat DeMarco who's the fourth last of a four

1988
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: year deal making less than two point five. That's four

1989
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: guys on your roster that all together are making less

1990
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 1: than four million bucks. You know, we're there's certainly less

1991
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: than five million bucks for the for the lot of them.

1992
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: That's value they're I think they're all going to be

1993
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 1: in training account. I'm not saying they're all gonna make

1994
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: the team and they're all gonna, you know, pick up

1995
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 1: the role or expand or all of a sudden break

1996
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 1: out as we've talked about Devin Singletary doing. But I

1997
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: think that's the kind of value you're gonna want in

1998
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: that position. That's about the that's about the cap space

1999
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 1: you want taken up by that With the guys they've got,

2000
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: but DeMarco, Christian Wade and TJ. Yelden, that's about where

2001
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: those guys are going to be. Even if you replace

2002
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: him with somebody else. Well, that's the thing, and I

2003
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: want to talk about replacing him for a second. Look,

2004
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 1: the Bills need another running back. I don't think they're

2005
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 1: bringing back Frank Gore and Sonoras Perry is a free agent.

2006
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised, I guess if he came back unless

2007
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: he comes in at a bargain rate. There's a need

2008
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: for an alternative to to Devin Singletary right, for another back.

2009
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: You look at the free agent market, big names, Derrick Henry,

2010
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, Kenyan Drake, a little bigger name Carlos Hide.

2011
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: They're not going after somebody like that. But is there

2012
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: a running back out there that they could Isaiah Crowell

2013
01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:00,799
Speaker 1: from the Las Vegas Raiders free agent now, Jonathan Williams,

2014
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: they've already been down that road. He was with the Colts,

2015
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: he's a free agent now. I don't see any names

2016
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 1: that really get me too excited. Marshawn Lynch blal Powell

2017
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Kind of older guy looking at the

2018
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 1: free agent list of free agent running backs, nobody really

2019
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: I find that intriguing. And then you get to the draft,

2020
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 1: and this was interesting. Todd McShay, who was regarded as

2021
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: a draft expert. In the first round at twenty two,

2022
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: head the Bills pick a running back he had. The

2023
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: Bills picked DeAndre Swift out of Georgia, regarded as one

2024
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 1: of the top two running backs in the league this year.

2025
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 1: He is five nine, two hundred and fifteen pounds, a

2026
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: junior from Philadelphia starter for one year, backed up Nick

2027
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 1: Chubb and Sony Michelle as a freshman, and then led

2028
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs and rushing in twenty eighteen. Powerful build guy.

2029
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 1: He is built low to the ground, runs comfortably with

2030
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: an even lower pad level they say. The scout say,

2031
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 1: tough guy to target to bring to the ground and

2032
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: runs comfortably with a low pad level. I just don't

2033
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: see him in the current NFL. I don't see how

2034
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 1: you even have to use a first round pick on

2035
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 1: a guy who could be a starter. In fact, this

2036
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: one our lads says that has the look of a

2037
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: week one starter. In the pros. Okay, you're not looking

2038
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: to replace Devin Singletary, You're looking to a supplement Devin Singletary.

2039
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 1: For that reason, I don't understand Todd mcchay evan, and

2040
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll change they all you know, have you?

2041
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, mock drafts a couple before you get through

2042
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,560
Speaker 1: the draft, were two months away from the draft. But

2043
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: I just don't see that right now. DeAndre Swift out

2044
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: of Georgia in the first round of the Bills. No,

2045
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so well. Mock drafts at this point

2046
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 1: are meaningless. I mean they're almost irrelevant. You think that

2047
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: because we don't even know who the Bills are going

2048
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: to get in free agency and what happens if they

2049
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 1: go out and they get for a bargain they get

2050
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 1: a Melvin Melvin Gordon who wants to come to Buffalo. Yeah,

2051
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe maybe the guy wants no part

2052
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: of Buffalo. Maybe he's one of those guys that say,

2053
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not playing in the snow whatever. But for the

2054
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 1: purposes of a discussion, you get a guy like a

2055
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon or or a Derrick Henry, then do you

2056
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: think the Bills are still gonna pick up running back

2057
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: in the first round. So there's everything that there's a

2058
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that have to happen before we can

2059
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 1: even get to the point where we know what the

2060
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 1: draft's gonna look like. There may be one of these

2061
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:10,799
Speaker 1: guys from eastern nowhere state who goes to the combine.

2062
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 1: You think, who is this guy? And he blows your

2063
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: socks off? And he becomes a DK Metcalf this year, Right,

2064
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: he's the guy. Guys like that are out there and

2065
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,679
Speaker 1: there's gonna be somebody who's like, wow, look at this guy.

2066
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna move up the draft board. It happened when

2067
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 1: I was coming out of college, and it happened all

2068
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 1: the way through my career. It's happened all the way

2069
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: through my broadcasting career. It's gonna happen this year. Guys

2070
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: are gonna elevate their draft status in the combine. So

2071
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 1: there's so much that goes on through this that we

2072
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about, right, I mean we don't.

2073
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: Nobody does he Guys they'll put out a mock draft,

2074
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 1: but that just is to prime you so you'll watch

2075
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 1: their next mock draft. I hate those things because they're

2076
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 1: They're never right, not a single one of them, not

2077
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 1: the last one. The only one that's right is the

2078
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 1: one that's not mock when they regurgitate the picks that

2079
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 1: actually happened. Now, certainly they'll hit on a couple of guys,

2080
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: and some of them seem obvious, but once you get

2081
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: past the last the first two of this draft, nothing's obvious.

2082
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 1: So you're not going with any mock draft. I'm not

2083
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: saying that's I'm just saying the Bills have been linked

2084
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: to a running back in the first round, which which

2085
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: kind of shocked me. Right, DeAndre Swift, obviously a good player,

2086
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 1: probably belongs in the first round, late first round, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: does he belong with the Buffalo Bills, who really don't

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Speaker 1: have a need a running back. They have a need

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Speaker 1: for a backup running back, a supplement running back to

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Speaker 1: a singletary. But they got a strong need for a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, edge rusher. They got a sam linebacker. They

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01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 1: need to replace a starting left linebacker. They need uh.

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Speaker 1: They may lose a guy in free agency on their

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Speaker 1: starting offensive line. They might need a guard. They might

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01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 1: need a right tackle if they don't want Cody Ford there,

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Speaker 1: or if they don't they need a right guard or

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Speaker 1: a right tackle, so and those are needs. Forget about

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Speaker 1: having a guy that you've already got in Devin Singletary

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Speaker 1: getting a guy to compete with him. So, to me,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy talk. And that's that's in a league where

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Speaker 1: there's probably more than a handful, if not way more

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Speaker 1: than a handful, up to half or maybe more who

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Speaker 1: have teams who will say, you know, we're not taking

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Speaker 1: a running back in the first round unless things fall

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01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: exactly the right way for us in free agency. So

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01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 1: that position, to me, is still being devalued in pro football,

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01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: and not only because they don't use them, but because

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Speaker 1: the guys that come out of college like this guy

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Speaker 1: swift load of running. It doesn't say anything about how

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Speaker 1: he can catch the ball, and as a pro running

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Speaker 1: back that is in a lot of cases, that's job one,

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Speaker 1: taking a handoffs, Job two. He's in. This is what

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Speaker 1: Arlette says. He's an every down back who catches the

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Speaker 1: ball naturally and will throw the violent block against Splitzer

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Speaker 1: has when called upon good I'm sure he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be on the team. He's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: a Yeah, But how you'd have to be a team

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Speaker 1: that's bereft of running backs. Yeah, to take a guy

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Speaker 1: that high? To me, yeah, twenty two in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Then what do we mean when we say, and I

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01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 1: don't want to dwell on this, but what do we

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01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,600
Speaker 1: mean when we say best available player? Swift might be

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Speaker 1: the best available player there at twenty two when you

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Speaker 1: get there? Okay, yeah, okay, I can live with you

2125
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Speaker 1: walk away from him, No, I can live I can

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01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: live with it. But or a trade back, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean at twenty two, you're right there. You're gonna

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01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: be getting to that point in the draft. We've all

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01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: seen Murphy. You've seen it as well as I have.

2130
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 1: You get to that point where old guys I don't

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01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: know now now it's the fact we might miss the guy,

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01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 1: right he felt so far Gosh, we need to jump

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Speaker 1: up a couple of slots, right, Um, Yeah, he's just

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01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 1: we've got this running back set at the early second round,

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Speaker 1: but now it's in the last bottom half of the

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01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 1: first we might have to jump up and get him that.

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Speaker 1: You'll see that right where teams will stretch for a

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01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 1: guy they think can be a different maker on their team.

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01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 1: Swift sounds like a guy who could be a difference

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Speaker 1: maker for some clubs. For the Bills, I think running

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Speaker 1: back is a secondary need this offseason, not a primary need,

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Speaker 1: and something they can be filled in the free agent market.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps something they could be filled later on in the draft,

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 1: or maybe that they just resigned who you said right

2145
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:21,679
Speaker 1: at the top, they should probably bring back the group

2146
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 1: they have, maybe, but they don't. It's not a primary need,

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Speaker 1: and the primary needs are edge rusher, wide receiver, maybe

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. Right, that's and maybe a defensive tackle too.

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Speaker 1: But those are the primary needs for the Bills, right

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Speaker 1: the deal? Yeah, I agree with you, And until those

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01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 1: are addressed, those positions are up first in the draft.

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Speaker 1: And I know that you want to take the best

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01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 1: player available, but I think I know a lot of

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01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: teams take best player available who's at the spot we need? Yeah,

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01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 1: So unless you fix that in free agency, that's what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do. All right. So that's state of the

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01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: Bills running back spot. We're gonna go State of the

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01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 1: Bills next week. Times we'll talk about edge rushers next week,

2159
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: we'll talk about wide receiver. Maybe we'll get in a

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Speaker 1: third group to talk about next week as we assess

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Speaker 1: the state of the bills as they head into the combine.

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Speaker 1: All right, we've got your questions in our Friday mail bag.

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01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 1: We'll take some of those when we come back. The

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Speaker 1: phone lines are open as well. Eight O three fifty

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: It's one bill Slide presented by Kalada Health from the

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Speaker 1: Seneca Studio, Seneca Resorts and Casino. Nothing comes close. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: one Bills Line. I'm John Murphy next to Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: with the weekend coming up. Got about thirty how do

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01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 1: we we? Took a break early twenty seven after the hour,

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01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 1: got about thirty two minutes left in the show is

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01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: see what do you think Greg Olsen's gonna Do you

2173
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: have a gut feeling on this one? I don't neither

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Speaker 1: do I I don't. I don't know what motivates him.

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01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't know the guy. I know he had a

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01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 1: connection with, you know, the Bills brain Trust, with McDermott

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01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: and with Brandon Bean. I don't know what they think

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Speaker 1: of him. Quite frankly, they've never really talked. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they've talked publicly about them. Yeah, is he motivated?

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Speaker 1: By money at age thirty five? Will it'll be motivated

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01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: by money this late in his career. Is he interested

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Speaker 1: in and being a you know kind of a a

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Speaker 1: leader for the young tight end. I don't know. That's

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Speaker 1: the whole thing about this whole free agency season here

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01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:26,560
Speaker 1: right now, Murph, right, because we have high hopes for

2186
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 1: this team going forward. We think they're on the up

2187
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: top uptick right? Are they seen by these free agent says?

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Speaker 1: I want to go some place where I gonna win that, Well,

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Speaker 1: this might be the spot. Maybe. I wonder where Greg

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01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Olson thinks. I do they think this is a place

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01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,599
Speaker 1: that's on on the verge, you know? I mean, if

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Speaker 1: he signs with Washington, obviously they're not money this year, Yeah,

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01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: it's money. If he signs with Seattle, you can make

2194
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 1: an argument that, yeah, they're close to a Super Bowl contention.

2195
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 1: They're closer than the Bills last year. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: Greg Olson. I would think it's coming out this weekend.

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Speaker 1: There's this news item too, and I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: to the mail bag in a minute. I think they're

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Speaker 1: moving forward with the new CBA. Steve, the NFLPA Executive

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01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 1: Committee and player reps have now schedule a meeting for

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01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 1: Thursday next Thursday, six days away in Washington. Reports from

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Speaker 1: Mike Garifolo and Ian Rappaport's a could be really consequential, good,

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01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 1: be meaningful. They've given a list the PA, the player

2204
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,719
Speaker 1: Association is given the NFL a list of final issues.

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01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,560
Speaker 1: If they're resolved. These issues are resolved, they might be

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01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 1: there might be a vote next Thursday. So the league

2207
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: reportedly is looking over the players' issues. What they're looking

2208
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 1: for and I got this note. Two sources familiar with

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Speaker 1: the current proposals say it includes concessions from the owner

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Speaker 1: side on issues such as revenue split. That would be

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01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 1: number one issue I would think, right, higher minimum salaries

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01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 1: and improved player benefits, relaxation of offseason and training camp

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Speaker 1: workout rules. Let me just stop there for a second.

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Speaker 1: It's not ideal, right, you have these early games now

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01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 1: where people say they're not ready to play. That would

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01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: get worse if they're not going to do anything in

2217
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: off season and training camp. But why does that catch

2218
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 1: your eye? Because they've relaxed them a lot over the

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01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:13,640
Speaker 1: last few years, and I don't think it's helped the

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01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: caliber play. I think it's hurt the caliber play, the

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Speaker 1: fact that you can't practice as much as you used to,

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01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 1: You can't practice early in the off you can't practice

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01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,560
Speaker 1: in the off season or early in the season like

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01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: you used to. I think it's hurt the level of play.

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01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, where else improved a revised drug policy?

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Speaker 1: You don't care about that. The questions of players are

2227
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 1: trying to answer among themselves. This is an ESPN report,

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01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,959
Speaker 1: is whether those concessions are enough to justify an expanded

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01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 1: regular season, and they may go back to the owners

2230
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 1: asking for more concessions. Whether seventeen games is a non starter,

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01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 1: It don't matter what. I don't think. So don't you

2232
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: think the players are gonna say, okay, the seventeen games

2233
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: if they get some of these other issues. I think

2234
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: they're ready to some of it, if not all. Yeah,

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01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: And I think I don't know how. I don't know.

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01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 1: There's so much, so many layers to this. It's complicated.

2237
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 1: It's really complicated because you know, they're nineteen hundred players

2238
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 1: that are playing in the league, three hundred that are

2239
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 1: just out, and three hundred just about her coming in

2240
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 1: this year. All of them have their own agenda. You

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01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 1: can make generalizations. But I don't think there's a generalized

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01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 1: opinion about any of those issues. You just met some

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01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 1: of the players just like, no, I'll take seventeen games.

2244
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't want any more players on the roster because

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01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 1: that just means we split the money more less money

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01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 1: for me, right, Yeah, I think they'll make sure that

2247
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 1: everybody gets more money. Right, the higher minimum salary and

2248
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: there'll be a higher, you know, cut of the overall.

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Speaker 1: What does a what does like a guy in his

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Speaker 1: prime who just signed a deal, what does he care

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Speaker 1: about minimum salaries? You know, they don't care about that,

2252
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, And I get the I get the issues,

2253
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 1: and it's real, but it's some of these things don't

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01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 1: apply to all these guys, and it doesn't apply to you.

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Speaker 1: You don't care about it. You care about other stuff.

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01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 1: They don't need unanimous approval two thirds vote by player

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01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 1: reps and to approve a new deal, and then they

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01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: need just a majority vote a simple majority required. Then

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01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: they need three fourth sub league owners. And of course

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Speaker 1: the big issue is seventeen game regular season schedule. They're

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01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 1: talking about reducing the number of playoff games, which is good.

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01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: Everybody agrees with that, and expanding the playoffs to include

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Speaker 1: two more teams. Reportedly, these are the issues on the table,

2264
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 1: so we could have an answer by next week. What's

2265
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: the rush, because there's a whole other season to come

2266
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 1: under the old CBA. They want to get it done now.

2267
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: They want to get approval of this new CBA. The

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Speaker 1: league gear starts March eighteenth, which is just about a

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01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 1: month away. They want it in place for this offseason

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01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 1: and then the NFL can go to the TV networks

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01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're all set. They want labor peace

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Speaker 1: so they can negotiate a TV deal that will be

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Speaker 1: off the charts. BIS, what are you gonna pay us now?

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01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 1: And you don't even want to look at those numbers? Yeah,

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01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: those numbers, those numbers dwarf yea what we're talking about.

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01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 1: They want to get it done now, So there's real pressure,

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01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 1: that pressure, real moment at him now with a meeting

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01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 1: next Thursday in Washington of Nflsers Association, and there's motivation

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01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: to get it done. Yes, yes, and I think it

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01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 1: will all right. Um eight oh three five fifty toll

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01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: free eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. What

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01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: do you think about any of these issues? What's what's

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01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 1: the mail bag look like today the Friday mail Bag.

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01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this every Friday. We're gonna call it

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01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 1: the Friday Mailbag. We'll take your suggestions via email by

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01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 1: a Twitter um. What do you think? It's the one

2287
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:31,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Live Mailbag. We've got several good submissions so far.

2288
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Any question you want to ask, I guess. I guess.

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01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 1: The feeling is see that we you and I. Jay

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01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: Harrin's our producer. We have become accustomed to dictating the

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01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 1: topics we talk about. Right, it's not all about us,

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Speaker 1: it's about you. We'll listen out a Twitter poll and

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Speaker 1: they people ask answer our respond to our question. Now

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Speaker 1: we respond to your question. Right, Is that what you're

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01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 1: looking for? Brilliant? It's a brilliant I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out. Let's listen to these questions so we

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01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 1: don't think these questions it's not brilliant. It's a brilliant

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01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 1: idea that has been around since tonight t twenties. Okay

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01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: from Dan, He says, do you see the Bills pursuing

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01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver Robbie Anderson of the Jets or Melvin Gordon

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01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: running back Melvin Gordon of the Chargers. Do you see

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01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: the Bills pursuing both and I And when I read that,

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01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: I thought, well, it depends on your definition of pursue. Certainly,

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01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna find out what the deal is.

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01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna say, will Rob would Robbie Anderson play for us?

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01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 1: Is he the kind of guy we want? When? What's

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01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 1: the number? And if all those things are in the

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01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 1: right realm or right limits. Yeah, they'll say, we're gonna

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01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 1: call the same thing with Melvin Gordon. We just talked

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01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 1: about having a guy come in, and you're saying, hey,

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01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: we need him to back up, you know, Devin Singletary.

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01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if it has to be back up

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01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. If you can get better, get better, if

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01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 1: you can bring Melvin Gordon in for the right number

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01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 1: and the right terms, and he's better, he plays. I

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01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 1: like Devin single as much, Singletary as much as everything.

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01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 1: He can play second fiddle to Melvin Gordon just as

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01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 1: easy as he did at the beginning of the season,

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01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 1: where he played second fiddle two Frank Gore this last season.

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Speaker 1: So if you get these guys for the right number,

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01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: absolutely you bring him in. Better players make you better.

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01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: And Robbie Anderson's a good players and we know Melvin

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 1: Gordon is as well. That's my take. My answer to

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01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 1: that question is I'd be more interested in Robbie Anderson

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01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 1: than I would in Melvin Gordon. Gordon, I feel would

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01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 1: be looking for too much money, and I don't want

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01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 1: to pay a running back that much money. And and

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01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'll repeat, I'm not looking for a starting

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01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 1: running back. It's starting caliber running back. Looking for a

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01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: good running back, but a guy who can spell Devin Singletary.

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01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 1: At this young age, Singletary should be ready to go

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01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 1: for We talked about two hundred and twenty five carries.

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01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 1: You might get close to three hundred. And this is

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01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 1: the time to make him a workhorse. So I'm not

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01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 1: looking for a starting running back. And I'm not interested

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01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 1: in Melvin Gordon. Robbie Anderson is good. I like him. Again,

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01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 1: it's it's all about money in free agency. Would they

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01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: pursue him, they would take a look at him. I

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01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: think Robbie Anderson my guests, but he is one of

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01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 1: the top receivers available right the right now. I'm Cooper

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02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 1: and aj Green, you know Emmanuel Sanders. I mean Robert

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02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 1: Anderson belongs at the bottom of that group, top four

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02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:12,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver potentially going out there in free agency. He's

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02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:14,600
Speaker 1: got some skills, no question. All right, we've got another

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02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 1: question from Chris in the mail bag. He says, I

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02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 1: see all the mock drafts with the Bills all except

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02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 1: that when you saw the Bills taking a running back.

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02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 1: But I see all the mock drafts with Bills taking

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02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 1: a receiver in the first round. But I firmly believe

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02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 1: that it will be an edge rusher unless we sign

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02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 1: one in free agency. We can get a receiver in

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02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:32,840
Speaker 1: the second round. It's a deep draft. What do you

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02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: guys think? Who sent that? Who said that? Chris? Chris?

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Speaker 1: Agree with you one percent. I'm coming around, as we're

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02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 1: week and half away from our visit to the Combine,

2356
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 1: coming around to the thought that get a receiver later.

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Speaker 1: Top priority is an edge rusher in the draft. Edge

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Speaker 1: rusher in the draft, Maybe a receiver second third round,

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02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: maybe a receiver even more prominently in a free agency

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02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 1: a lesser receiver. But yeah, I like the way you're thinking, Chris,

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Speaker 1: get her, get the edge in the first round, get

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Speaker 1: a bargain edge rusher, And I think you'd be able

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Speaker 1: to do that. I agree. If it's not an edge

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02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 1: rusher or a defensive tackle or an offense I think

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02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 1: I've always been a big offensive and defensive line guy.

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Speaker 1: Those those are the top priorities for a lot of

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Speaker 1: what Ruben Brown said when he was on the show

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Speaker 1: this week. When your offense is working right and the

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Speaker 1: plays look like they're designed do look like they are

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02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 1: designed to look, it's because your offensive line is good.

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02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 1: You gotta have those guys, and I think that's where

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02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:28,400
Speaker 1: you start. For me, it's every draft. But if you

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02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 1: can get a defensive tackle edge rusher in the first round,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. And I'm with you. It's a

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02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 1: deep draft. And wide receiver we don't We could always

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02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:41,400
Speaker 1: use an elite wide receiver. Every team could an AJ Green,

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02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:46,320
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and DeAndre Hopkins, those kind of guys, Amari Cooper,

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02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 1: name you name him. You can always use one of

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02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 1: those guys. But the concurrent construction of the Bill's wide

2380
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 1: receiving corps and the quarterback they've got in the offensive

2381
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 1: they got, they don't have to have one to put

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02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 1: them over the top. They need other players and other

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02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:04,200
Speaker 1: positions worse than they need that guy and what he

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02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 1: will bring to the table. I think if your quarterback

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02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 1: plays better, it limits your need to get a guy

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02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 1: who's gonna do it for him. Nobody's gonna pull the

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02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:16,040
Speaker 1: trigger for Josh, So I'm with you. I think taking

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02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 1: taking an edge rusher or take another guy at a

2389
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 1: different position rather than an elite wide receiver that high,

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Speaker 1: particularly in this draft. Here's a name that's been linked

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02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:28,440
Speaker 1: to the Bills, Calivan chas On of LSU six five,

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02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 1: two forty pounds. Oh my guys, one of the top

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02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: edge rusher outside linebackers. Oh okay, I thought you were

2394
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:37,760
Speaker 1: talking about. I thought he was a wide receiver. Oh

2395
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 1: my guys, she's outside linebacker. Okay. I don't know that

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02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 1: he belongs at twenty two, but he's in that neighborhood.

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02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 1: Late first round, early second round, a guy that Bills

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02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 1: could handle. The Friday mail Bag continues from John it's

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02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 1: a good question. On one show during the season, a

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02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:57,440
Speaker 1: caller suggested more screen passes, but Steve indicated it was

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02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 1: a personal issue, not our offensive coordinators. So what should

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02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:04,160
Speaker 1: be done? What do you think they certainly can get

2403
02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 1: better at screen passes? They weren't good at Oh my gosh,

2404
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 1: they were non existent at times. Yeah, and I get

2405
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:11,360
Speaker 1: it that Brian Dable doesn't like it, or they didn't

2406
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 1: have the people to do it, Like he doesn't know

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02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: how to drop a screen pass. What are you talking?

2408
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You gotta have the players and the positions

2409
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:22,240
Speaker 1: and the and the abilities to do it the way

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02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 1: it should be done. And there's more reasons than I

2411
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 1: can name, or I mean, this is just one of them.

2412
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 1: Quintin Spain is a really good blocker at certain times.

2413
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 1: Maybe now I don't know that Cody Ford is a

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02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 1: great guy getting out in front of screens. John Feliciano,

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02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 1: we've seen them. When you see screens, Feliciano is always

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02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 1: the guy that's out in front of him. So I

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02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: if that's the case, that tells you something. You don't

2418
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:49,280
Speaker 1: see Quentin Spain and Cody Ford out in front, or

2419
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:52,360
Speaker 1: you don't see Feliciano and Quintin Spain out in front,

2420
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 1: or Mitch Morris out in front. You saw Mitch Morris

2421
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 1: pulling around and doing some stuff. But there's only so

2422
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 1: much you can do. And if you get predictable in

2423
02:03:59,880 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 1: that way, whereas the only screen passes you throw. Mitch

2424
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 1: Morse is the guy they can keep you from doing that,

2425
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 1: so they just you know, they don't let Mitch Morse release.

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02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 1: So that's what you're looking at. So yeah, I do

2427
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 1: think there's more to it than just Brian Dable not

2428
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,520
Speaker 1: knowing how to run or diagram a screen or call

2429
02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:21,800
Speaker 1: it in a game. Yeah, there's something going on there

2430
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 1: all right, and maybe they can change that up this year.

2431
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 1: Here's a question for the mail bag from Anthony. It's

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02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 1: a good one too, He writes, maybe it's jumping the

2433
02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 1: gun a little, but when should the bill start thinking

2434
02:04:31,640 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: about extending McDermott, breaking up McDermott and being I believe

2435
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:37,720
Speaker 1: would be a major mistake. Anthony, when should they start

2436
02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:42,040
Speaker 1: thinking about it yesterday? I'm not telling our owners. Our

2437
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 1: owners are the people who signed our checks what to do.

2438
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 1: But let's go. Let's get on this. This is the

2439
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:49,320
Speaker 1: time of year to do it too, right with before

2440
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:52,839
Speaker 1: the personnel decisions are made. So to send a message

2441
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,800
Speaker 1: to the free agents out there, Hey, the guy that

2442
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 1: you are dealing with, the guy that is interviewing you

2443
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 1: as you come here in your free agent on your

2444
02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 1: free agent visit, that's the guy who's going to be

2445
02:05:02,120 --> 02:05:04,720
Speaker 1: your coach here for you know, an extended period, four

2446
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 1: or five years. Maybe, yeah, it's time. Three years in

2447
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott has for my mind, exceeded expectations. Two playoff

2448
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:14,240
Speaker 1: appearances in three years. I think it should have. Maybe

2449
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:17,560
Speaker 1: it has too. I keep I wake up three days

2450
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:19,920
Speaker 1: a week this week thinking today's the day they're gonna

2451
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 1: announce it. And they'll do it quietly, but they're gonna

2452
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,600
Speaker 1: announce that McDermott is extended. I think it's time, right. Yeah.

2453
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 1: It's funny how coaches do this and you know it's

2454
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:29,880
Speaker 1: not in the news, right, Yeah, nobody says anything about

2455
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:33,800
Speaker 1: It's like they just signed an extension to I'm like, oh,

2456
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. Unless you're what's his name,

2457
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:38,440
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and the Cowboys. Then it's in the news

2458
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:42,120
Speaker 1: every day, twenty four hours a day. Right. It's interesting too.

2459
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 1: And think about this, three years that McDermott has been

2460
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:50,440
Speaker 1: here is the exact same amount that they owed Rex

2461
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 1: on his last contract. Ye, so they finished up paying

2462
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: off that catastrophe, you know, have painting a guy. It's

2463
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 1: not working as a catastrophe, but that's gone, So that

2464
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 1: goes back on your bottom line. So that's plus. So

2465
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:08,880
Speaker 1: maybe they start will start doing it, you know. And

2466
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 1: I love the message it sends too, to extend your coach,

2467
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 1: I really do. It sends a good positive message like

2468
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:18,200
Speaker 1: this is who we are, this is the team they built,

2469
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna look like for several years

2470
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 1: now more years now. I agree. And I had thought

2471
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:27,120
Speaker 1: it's funny because I had thought about this just for

2472
02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 1: a minute, like you know, last week, just when I

2473
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 1: was at home or whatever, and something else would come

2474
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:35,600
Speaker 1: across the Twitter feed or whatever, and I thought, oh, yeah,

2475
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,880
Speaker 1: I wonder when I don't know how long his deal is,

2476
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:41,760
Speaker 1: and I thought it was for like five years. I thought, yeah,

2477
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna something's gonna happen with that. And and I'm

2478
02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm with the guy, Anthony. Catastrophic mistake to let that

2479
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:53,520
Speaker 1: guy get out. Yes, you know, I mean, because we're

2480
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 1: all in with this. We love the culture, we love

2481
02:06:55,720 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 1: the team. He has been unwavering and disciplined, and they're

2482
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 1: assigning guys that players love him. Two out of three

2483
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 1: years they've been in the playoffs. After what we went

2484
02:07:06,680 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 1: through before that, you know how hard it is to

2485
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 1: change your culture it's hard, I mean, and Sean talked

2486
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 1: about that from day one when he arrived here a

2487
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Building a culture, changing the culture.

2488
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 1: He got laughed at by much of the media and

2489
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:21,640
Speaker 1: tell yeah, culture, we got people I won't name names.

2490
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:24,320
Speaker 1: We got people on your control room staff who laugh

2491
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 1: when he says culture. Culture, culture. You know what, he

2492
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:29,560
Speaker 1: did it. They got a different culture here. Now, that's

2493
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:31,840
Speaker 1: hard to do, but they've done it. They've done it successfully,

2494
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:35,400
Speaker 1: and it's not it's hard. It's hard to change, and

2495
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 1: it's not meaningless. And there's a lot in that. This

2496
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 1: is a team that you asked the players. It's a

2497
02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:47,040
Speaker 1: large part of why they love it here. You know.

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Speaker 1: They like the atmosphere, they like each other, they like

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Speaker 1: their workplace. They believe in the guy there that with

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Speaker 1: the headset on, you know and clapping his hands on

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02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 1: the sidelines. We always make fun of. They like the guy,

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02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:04,600
Speaker 1: they love, they love being here. He's a big reason why. So, yeah,

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02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 1: that's on the horizon. It's gotta be. It's gonna be

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02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:08,680
Speaker 1: on the radar, no question about it. I hope it's

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02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:10,480
Speaker 1: like a week or two away to mean, yeah, I

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02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:12,080
Speaker 1: don't it could be. It might be a week away,

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02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 1: or it might be it could be after this next season.

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02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I there's in my opinion, at

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02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:19,960
Speaker 1: this point in history, there's no way that guy gets

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02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 1: out the door. There's no way he sees the end

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02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:25,880
Speaker 1: of this contract before it's extended. I think. I don't,

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02:08:26,040 --> 02:08:27,920
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't you know from the

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02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 1: mail bag from Ja, does tagging Jordan Phillips makes sense

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02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:34,600
Speaker 1: for the bills? I don't think so. I read an

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02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:36,760
Speaker 1: interesting post from our buddy sale Capaccio. I think he

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02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 1: wrote this, did I read this about? The One reason

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02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:42,080
Speaker 1: why it makes sense is to because it's a one

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02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 1: year deal, right, you get to see Jordan Phillips for

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02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 1: one more year. Problem is, it's like a fifteen million

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02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 1: dollar tag. I looked up right before the show started

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02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:51,920
Speaker 1: today spottrack dot com or it was this morning. Then

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Speaker 1: they do a good job of free agents like Jordan

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02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 1: Phillips assessing what their market value would be. They got

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Speaker 1: him at six million. That's a big gulf between six million,

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02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:05,200
Speaker 1: which is his estimated you know, market value, in fifteen million,

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02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 1: which it would cost to tag him, franchise tag him.

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02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:09,840
Speaker 1: So no, I don't think they should tag him. I

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02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 1: think they should negotiate with him. I think I think

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02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:14,840
Speaker 1: the belief is he wants to be here, so he

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02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:16,680
Speaker 1: might be amenable to doing something with the Bills. But

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02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:19,200
Speaker 1: let's see, let's find out. Yeah, I agree, and it

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02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:22,600
Speaker 1: might be if he wants to be here, the Bills

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02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 1: will say, I'll tell you what you go get your

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02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 1: best number, give us a chance to match it, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I think he would go, and he might do it.

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02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 1: He might do that. He go find more than go

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02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:34,560
Speaker 1: find more than one. Yeah, if the Bills will say

2538
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:36,160
Speaker 1: we'll give you a six or seven million, he'll say,

2539
02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. And they say, if you do, we'll

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02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:39,800
Speaker 1: match it and you can stay here, and we'd love

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02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 1: to have you. We'll give you a one year deal.

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02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. If they give him a one

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02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 1: year deal, that's different than another team giving him that

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02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:48,680
Speaker 1: number and giving him a three year deal with so

2545
02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 1: much guaranteed. But if the average is less than the

2546
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 1: fifteen million franchise tag, maybe they'll do it. He is

2547
02:09:56,760 --> 02:09:59,200
Speaker 1: a part time player, played fifty two percent of the

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02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 1: defensive last year, played very well. What nine sacks? Right,

2549
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 1: He's a good player and a good guy, and he's

2550
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 1: an active, interested, eager participant, right, he's always firing people up.

2551
02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 1: But to play only half the snaps? To pay you

2552
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars to play half to snaps, that's pretty pricey.

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02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:19,560
Speaker 1: One more from the mail bag today, Steve, these are

2554
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 1: good questions. Josh Norman is going to be released by

2555
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: Washington today was released, I believe would he be a

2556
02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 1: good fit as the number two defensive back. He's also

2557
02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 1: wondering if there's any update on Olsen. Let's deal with

2558
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,400
Speaker 1: that first. No, no update on Olsen. The belief is

2559
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 1: he'll come up with a decision shortly, maybe this weekend.

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02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:37,440
Speaker 1: Would Josh Norman be a good fit as the number

2561
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 1: two defensive back? That I ask you his age? He's

2562
02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:43,560
Speaker 1: older right, yea, he's thirty two. Yeah, that makes him

2563
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 1: not a good fit to my mind, especially when you

2564
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:49,040
Speaker 1: got you know, Levi Wallace and Josh Norman was good

2565
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:51,320
Speaker 1: three or four years ago. But you got Levi Wallace,

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02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,760
Speaker 1: who I still think has room to get better. You

2567
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:57,120
Speaker 1: got Kevin Johnson, who I think if they keep him around,

2568
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,280
Speaker 1: will be a better player. So I don't think you'd

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02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 1: be a good fit here. I think his age makes

2570
02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:04,960
Speaker 1: a difference. I think I would trust the knowledge that

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02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott has about Josh or Josh Norman because of

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02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 1: their history together. He played for him in Carolina. Norman

2573
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:16,600
Speaker 1: had the great years in Carolina before he hit the

2574
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 1: home run and went to Washington. Carolina's where he made

2575
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 1: a name for himself in the system that Sean mcdermot's running,

2576
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:24,640
Speaker 1: and that makes a lot of sense to a lot

2577
02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 1: of people, So I would be I would really defer

2578
02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 1: to McDermott about what his thoughts are. How was he really?

2579
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:36,120
Speaker 1: How's the a locker room Guy's a great locker room guy?

2580
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 1: Is the guy that fit? Is he a mentor guy?

2581
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 1: Will can you get him for the right number? You're

2582
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 1: not gonna pay him fourteen million bucks a year to

2583
02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 1: come in and be a second corner or third corner.

2584
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 1: So if the number's right, I would defer to McDermott

2585
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:51,080
Speaker 1: on that because he'll know what kind of guy the

2586
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 1: guy is when when you're in the locker room and

2587
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: the lights are not on, is he is he a

2588
02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 1: film watcher? Is he a mentor? Is he a good

2589
02:11:58,080 --> 02:11:59,960
Speaker 1: locker room guy? Does he fit the DNA of the team.

2590
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 1: Even if that happens. Yeah, I think gimm a shot,

2591
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,040
Speaker 1: but it's got to be for the right number. All right,

2592
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:07,240
Speaker 1: there you go. The Friday mail bag will do it.

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02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 1: I think every Friday worked out pretty well today, wouldn't

2594
02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:13,000
Speaker 1: you say? Happy with it? I think it was good,

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02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:15,640
Speaker 1: very nice. Coming back to finish up things here one

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Speaker 1: Bill's I've presented by Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned from

2598
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Speaker 1: today's show? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction

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Speaker 1: equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Christin Fourier, former

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Speaker 1: NFL tight end, former Tom Brady teammate, told us today

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02:12:44,480 --> 02:12:46,680
Speaker 1: he thinks Brady's not going to be at the Patriots

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02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:51,240
Speaker 1: next year. Here's what he said. Why isn't it likely

2603
02:12:51,400 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are willing to move on from him?

2604
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:56,840
Speaker 1: Why isn't it Why isn't it that the Patriots, based

2605
02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:59,520
Speaker 1: on the information that I've seen, aren't saying, you know what,

2606
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:03,360
Speaker 1: like we're not gonna pay him play five million dollars, Well,

2607
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,280
Speaker 1: we want to be playing fifteen million dollars. I mean,

2608
02:13:06,360 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 1: because he's just not worth it and it's time for

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02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 1: us to move on. Because that's usually what happened, you know.

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02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:15,520
Speaker 1: I think people get their vision and their opinions get

2611
02:13:15,640 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 1: clouded because it's Brady and he's always been there and

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02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:22,640
Speaker 1: he's never been anywhere else, and they can't even fathom

2613
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:25,520
Speaker 1: him playing in another jersey. My point is, if you

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02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 1: play long enough, you end up being on another team,

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02:13:28,440 --> 02:13:32,040
Speaker 1: right like that, That's the rule. Christin Fourier made some

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02:13:32,120 --> 02:13:34,280
Speaker 1: sense with that, Steve, you have to say, I'm not

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02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:36,360
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna happen. I might come around and think

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02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:39,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna leave, but I just have a hard time

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Speaker 1: seeing it. May see it, he may see it. Production

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Speaker 1: assistant today George Blast, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Honalder, Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: jj Urto, Kevin Cargi's Teams, robot our producer Jay Harris.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, everybody. We're back here Monday with

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Speaker 1: Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park on Buffalo

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