Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
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Speaker 1: we Live. I think we're love you guys. Are we
Speaker 1: doing happening? We're love? Man. Hey, thanks for joining us
Speaker 1: for our second John M. Queens Live event. You guys. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm just like looking at my phone here. We have
Speaker 1: so many people joining us today, so stoked, so like excited,
Speaker 1: a big big deals us. Let's talk about it. It's
Speaker 1: coming back and it keeps coming back accidentally, like the
Speaker 1: fact that our New York Times article came out on
Speaker 1: the three when we were on the set of Good
Speaker 1: Sam filming, and we none of us knew it was
Speaker 1: coming out that day. We just like suddenly are starting
Speaker 1: up weird text. It was so wild and we were like, wow,
Speaker 1: wasn't it crazy that we're together on the first twenty
Speaker 1: three of the year. And then an hour later our
Speaker 1: article came out and we were like, what's happening? And
Speaker 1: then they announced our episode was airing today and we
Speaker 1: were like, on my treeting there really which is a
Speaker 1: double whammy because it's three twenty three, so we've got
Speaker 1: both boys basketball jerseys covered here, um, and our fan
Speaker 1: base has been so cool, like we've seen like twenty
Speaker 1: three tattoos on people and they're the ones that give
Speaker 1: us a big heads up whenever anything twenty three is happening.
Speaker 1: I should get a twenty three tattoo at this point, right,
Speaker 1: are you gonna do it? I feel like we need
Speaker 1: some kind of a tattoo, you guys, we do. Did
Speaker 1: we ever get fan art for the idea? Were we
Speaker 1: talking about this on the show? Yes, guys, yeah, anyone
Speaker 1: who's with us tonight. We love seeing your art and
Speaker 1: the drawings that you've made. I mean, send us ideas
Speaker 1: for tattoos we might join. Are people disappointed when they
Speaker 1: find out you don't really have the twenty three tattoos.
Speaker 1: I've definitely had some fans to be like, I want
Speaker 1: to see it. I'm like, first of all, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna put my pants out for you, but second of all,
Speaker 1: but you got first at least, but second of all, no,
Speaker 1: I I don't I didn't actually get that tattoo, But
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it might be fun. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: get one somewhere, little three on my shoulder or something.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's about time. Well, we just surpass
Speaker 1: this like major major milestone with our podcast, Little engine
Speaker 1: that could you want to walk us through with? Sophia
Speaker 1: wanted to tell us what we've won again, We're paying attention.
Speaker 1: The signs are coming for us. Um just was it
Speaker 1: last week or the week before? Now? Time literally as
Speaker 1: this episode is area. Yeah, we we got the news
Speaker 1: that we crossed twenty three million worlds of drama queens. Ye,
Speaker 1: my daughter embarrassed when I do that, Mom, I used
Speaker 1: to do that's my mom? What I mean? What do
Speaker 1: we what do we want? But seriously, like all of
Speaker 1: this lining up to have twenty three million people listening
Speaker 1: to our podcast, we were marveling when the what is
Speaker 1: it called the list I guess for like most popular
Speaker 1: podcasts in the top five it's US and then four
Speaker 1: true crime shows and we were nostalgia into the murder room.
Speaker 1: We like it sometimes, I like our show is like
Speaker 1: true crime going on that we're just crimes of the players,
Speaker 1: true crime and romantic comedy at the same time in
Speaker 1: the later season. It's a genre. There's a genre there. Hey, Hillary,
Speaker 1: will you talk a bit about the charity that we
Speaker 1: are sponsoring tonight, because I know that you have a
Speaker 1: lot of experience being from you said, you're from a
Speaker 1: Chapter one high school, and you know, having the experience
Speaker 1: of kids being uh not unable to play sports because
Speaker 1: of finances, so I know you have experienced. Well, this
Speaker 1: was actually Joy's idea. She brought this to the table
Speaker 1: and we all jumped on it because high school sports
Speaker 1: is such a big part of one Tree Hills narrative.
Speaker 1: You know, we spent so much time in that jam
Speaker 1: and supporting real high school kids is important to us.
Speaker 1: So Good Sports is our charity partner tonight. They drive
Speaker 1: equitable access in youth sports and physical activity by supporting
Speaker 1: children in high need communities to achieve their greatest potential
Speaker 1: on the field and in life, because we know that
Speaker 1: they're connected. The benefits of sports and physical activity in
Speaker 1: a child's life are very well documented, and Good Sports
Speaker 1: exist to make sure cost does not keep kids on
Speaker 1: the bench. So, like Joyce said, I went to a
Speaker 1: title one high school. We leveled the playing field by
Speaker 1: getting lots of donations for them through my charity, UM
Speaker 1: High School Forever that we raised winning for Park Few
Speaker 1: High School and all of a sudden, you guys, once
Speaker 1: we gave them money, my kids are winning everything. Really,
Speaker 1: this is awesome, school Lady Patriots are killing it. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a good feeling to be able to level
Speaker 1: the playing field. So thank you guys at home for
Speaker 1: helping us do that tonight. Yeah, so many young people
Speaker 1: don't have a talent gap, they have a resource gap.
Speaker 1: And where we can fill that gap, and the three
Speaker 1: of us can take a legacy of a show that
Speaker 1: was about you know, small town kids playing for their
Speaker 1: home team and do something for kids around the country.
Speaker 1: It's really really meeting full. So you know, we're probably
Speaker 1: gonna thank you all for being here a lot tonight.
Speaker 1: Thank you for helping us use this community and like
Speaker 1: this fierce amount of love we have for each other
Speaker 1: to raise funds for people who need it. It's really
Speaker 1: meaningful to usk that this that this fam has been
Speaker 1: able to turn into a positive force in the world.
Speaker 1: So thank you. Absolutely should we toast to that should
Speaker 1: we we should we have something special to toast with. Um. Thanks,
Speaker 1: friends at home, if you have some whiskey, especially if
Speaker 1: you have some Johnny Walker or Jane Oh, I have
Speaker 1: a display back here with a crown. Um, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lead us through a little uh adventure, a little cocktail.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like those YouTube unboxing video unboxing video
Speaker 1: from Blue Nile, by the way, that that's what you Okay,
Speaker 1: we're guys. Can I also just tell you a funny.
Speaker 1: So I'm working on my show in Canada and you
Speaker 1: can hear Jason Isaacs and plays. My father is screaming
Speaker 1: with the rest of my cast in the other room
Speaker 1: because we're gathered to watch this. They're watching us on
Speaker 1: a laptop downstairs. Our friends at Johnny Walker sent us
Speaker 1: Black Label to say congrats on twenty three million views.
Speaker 1: You guys got the cocktail, kids, all I got was
Speaker 1: the whiskey because customs wouldn't let me have the rest.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't see the best part. Can't send fruit
Speaker 1: across an international border. So yeah, that's weird. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna have you, okay, so listen, It's just an ounce
Speaker 1: and a half. Okay, get your highball glass. Anybody had
Speaker 1: almost got a highball glass. Give me some ice, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, like I brought up plastic three four, you
Speaker 1: know the ice there. Okay, a little bit of ice. Alright,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do an ounce and a half. Here we go.
Speaker 1: I can't pour and hold it up in front of
Speaker 1: here we go. Looks, that's the big end of the
Speaker 1: little end. The big end is two ounces. So fill
Speaker 1: either the big end up a little less or the
Speaker 1: second the small end up a time and a half.
Speaker 1: We're still the big end up all the way. It's
Speaker 1: late where we are, Joy, it's not a clock where
Speaker 1: we are a baby. Um all right, so yeah, next
Speaker 1: is here. We got get some guava. I want that.
Speaker 1: Guava is known to have benefits for your skin. Oh
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Shoot uh, guys, I just so sorry.
Speaker 1: It's just spilled everywhere my parents house. That's why they're
Speaker 1: your friends. Joy, they're using anyway, we're tapping this off. Okay,
Speaker 1: guava juice. I have sparkling water. Appropriately it's Canada dry,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna make um. That's actually really good. I
Speaker 1: would not have expected to put those two together and
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But it's really good. I'm so sorry. John M.
Speaker 1: Queen's nice guys, hi friends and his wife Flaora's house
Speaker 1: and the cheers to you guys thinks are girl? Oh yeah, pleasure.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's fine, but maybe just really likes this
Speaker 1: is very haly of you right now to just like
Speaker 1: and you know what, the last time we were together,
Speaker 1: you made such an elegant cocktail. God doesn't give with
Speaker 1: both hands. If you do a really great thing, then
Speaker 1: you have to be a mess just to balance the university.
Speaker 1: It feels right. Okay, what are we cheersing to? What's
Speaker 1: happened over the course of the last twenty three million
Speaker 1: downloads that we want to cheers to and want you
Speaker 1: We have learned so much about each other and from
Speaker 1: each other and about ourselves through this experience. I'm so
Speaker 1: proud to be your friends. I'm so proud of all
Speaker 1: of our fans for going on this journey with us,
Speaker 1: with the ups and downs. I hope you guys all
Speaker 1: stick with us. We are nowhere near done. Just hang on.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yes, Okay, we have someone that a
Speaker 1: lot of the fans want to talk about. Maybe they
Speaker 1: want to talk to this person. What do you think
Speaker 1: should we should we bring our friend in? Our friend?
Speaker 1: That was me, that was my drunk winking Okay, bring
Speaker 1: the mad ladies into my God, Ryan Greenberg, why are
Speaker 1: you so handsome? Girl? Oh my gosh, you're better looking
Speaker 1: now than you were then, if that's possible. Moored, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where are you? I'm in l A. I'm home. Really?
Speaker 1: Whose dog is that? This is my friend's dog. This
Speaker 1: is Lyla the dog. She always wants to be where
Speaker 1: the action is. I got a cold. My daughter had
Speaker 1: a cold, and then she was like, well me, can
Speaker 1: I sleep in your bed? Yeah? That's about now. Why
Speaker 1: do you look well? Arrested, Brian? You're not exausted. I
Speaker 1: have twins. I'm not sleeping. It's good though, let's get
Speaker 1: into that. I mean we Uh, why didn't I what's
Speaker 1: going on here? Why? What's going on? We're gonna We're
Speaker 1: gonna fix that. I'm wanna be home in a week
Speaker 1: and I'm personally going to deliver a bottle of whiskey
Speaker 1: right now. Wouldn't even I'm so game to do it. Um,
Speaker 1: look on over you day on this freaking show and
Speaker 1: now your dad in real life. It's crazy. You were
Speaker 1: surprisingly good at it though, like in our early twenties,
Speaker 1: what was your baby experience up until our show? My
Speaker 1: baby experience until I had kids was only playing Jake
Speaker 1: on What Your Hill? No, yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: Like my sister doesn't have any kids. I just around kids.
Speaker 1: And you were so natural just with baby Jenny. You
Speaker 1: were so natural with her. Well let's let the audience
Speaker 1: know there were like four Baby Jenny's so when we
Speaker 1: come in. But the guitar thing really helped, Like that
Speaker 1: was they that would relax them. And now I do
Speaker 1: that with my kids too. It's kind of you do
Speaker 1: what you say. Yes, at least it's finally no one
Speaker 1: song still repeat. Um, I don't know, explain what right?
Speaker 1: And mostly my stuff that's the only things I can remember. Okay,
Speaker 1: so talk to us a little bit about when we
Speaker 1: first started doing the show. Wow, okay, you get the
Speaker 1: message you've got to play basketball? Um? Right? Did you play?
Speaker 1: I thought I could play? And uh, I mean I
Speaker 1: played like pick up and stuff, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I played basketball, like I could shoot around, I know
Speaker 1: how to dribble a ball, but like that's as close
Speaker 1: to playing real basketball is I'll ever get. Uh, and
Speaker 1: once I got to like once Your Hill and they
Speaker 1: were doing practices and I was like, James was dunking.
Speaker 1: I was way out of my league, but you know
Speaker 1: was it was. It also a little intimidating for them
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, go play basketball with all these
Speaker 1: people who do it every day, and you're going to
Speaker 1: be the guy who plays in Chuck Taylor's right, you
Speaker 1: play in converse. I can't remember if that was my
Speaker 1: idea or marsh idea, I can't remember, but I think
Speaker 1: there was just something like there was like an old
Speaker 1: soul to Jake and and you know he was like
Speaker 1: he was at you know, yeah, he was like a throwback.
Speaker 1: Do you regret that decision later? Oh? Yeah? That hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we had really long I mean we've talked about
Speaker 1: this on our show. We had the basketball days were
Speaker 1: the most brutal because they were just epic. Everyone was
Speaker 1: there all day long. You never knew when you were needed.
Speaker 1: You were always like on what do you remember about
Speaker 1: shooting those basketball days? Like I said, that's as close
Speaker 1: as I'm gonna ever get to playing real sports. So
Speaker 1: it was really fun for me because I got to
Speaker 1: look good and they drew place for us. Um. I
Speaker 1: do remember one time I was doing it. We were
Speaker 1: doing a play and I remember Chad like I was
Speaker 1: supposed to like get out of the way, and I
Speaker 1: think he forgot and I like came down on him
Speaker 1: and I broke I broke a I remember, who's rid
Speaker 1: my rib? I think I came down on him like
Speaker 1: he was supposed to move, but he didn't move. It
Speaker 1: was like a little mix up that happens. But I
Speaker 1: was like, I remember that vividly. Um, but how long
Speaker 1: does it take to heal from a broken rib? As?
Speaker 1: You can't? You just gotta you just gotta let it heal.
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about it. So that soulful
Speaker 1: like Jake squinteen was just Greenberg like in pain, like
Speaker 1: he focusing. Um, But no, I mean that was probably
Speaker 1: I played it so much basketball because we all became friends,
Speaker 1: like all the guys on the team, and we'd all
Speaker 1: play outside of shooting and stuff, so like we do
Speaker 1: practices NonStop, and I mean it wasn't That's all we
Speaker 1: did down there was played basketball and shoot the show.
Speaker 1: What were you laying high school? For real? Like? Who
Speaker 1: who was Brian Greenberg class of What were you class
Speaker 1: A nineties seven. Yeah, I was the guy who was
Speaker 1: kind of like I didn't have a crew or a click.
Speaker 1: I could kind of be with anybody. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of friends, but I didn't have like my own click.
Speaker 1: Like I was in theater, I'd like I played the cross.
Speaker 1: Um you know, yeah, big public school in San Louis
Speaker 1: Parkway Central. Shout out, um, shout out our high schools
Speaker 1: on this one, shout out. So wait, you did theater
Speaker 1: in high school? Were you like a musical boy? Did
Speaker 1: you do Greece? I feel like everybody were you naked
Speaker 1: or were you? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah yeah? And then
Speaker 1: I did Oklahoma? Oh my god. Yeah. I mean you
Speaker 1: do musicals in high school because most are the only
Speaker 1: plays that you do in high school, so you just
Speaker 1: kind of do it by the fault. But theater, nerd,
Speaker 1: did you fall in love with all your co stars?
Speaker 1: And because theater is like such an intense on top
Speaker 1: of each other experience, I would always fall in love
Speaker 1: with my coasts and then you know it's like over
Speaker 1: three months later, like what did did you have that
Speaker 1: experience just with you three? Oh my god, Bryan Greenberg,
Speaker 1: you are such a flirt and I can't stand you.
Speaker 1: Um well, here's the deal. I catch so much on
Speaker 1: the internet because all I do is rape about Jake
Speaker 1: and Peyton. I'm like, I, guys, I blush. I can't even.
Speaker 1: Like we watched these scenes back and you're so smooth
Speaker 1: and you're so good at it, and we're all just
Speaker 1: like dorky giddy girls, and the fans were like, Okay, Hillary,
Speaker 1: that's enough. I'm gonna make a confession that I actually
Speaker 1: haven't gone back and watched any of these episodes, so
Speaker 1: it feels like such a long time ago. But what
Speaker 1: I do remember is like we had crazy good chemistry,
Speaker 1: right see um it. You know, we all remember the show,
Speaker 1: but not the episode specifically, and when the three of
Speaker 1: us have gone back a lot, like I feel like
Speaker 1: in every video where there's a payment Jake scene, I'm
Speaker 1: just like this. I'm like, I can't even. I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm so red. My face is sweating. It's I didn't.
Speaker 1: We're also like what this is? Cleol, Like I remember
Speaker 1: we think I went forward. I was like shirt Saw,
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this? You were older? You
Speaker 1: were older than us, which is probably why you played,
Speaker 1: you know, such a mature high schooler. But did you
Speaker 1: feel like when you came in, um, did you feel
Speaker 1: like you were kind of on the same level or
Speaker 1: did you feel like you you were watching um, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of all like no, no, I mean like eure
Speaker 1: up here with your talent and you understanding you guys.
Speaker 1: I felt like, oh, you're all serious regulars and I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of here guest starring. I'm not really sure
Speaker 1: where I fit in. But you guys were so cool
Speaker 1: and you to here's so humble and sweet. My other job,
Speaker 1: Clooney were something, how's that going for you? They're cool, Well,
Speaker 1: you're making a movie with Meryl Streep and great, it's
Speaker 1: so weird. It leveled jumps so quick, right Like I
Speaker 1: was like trying to be a series regular on One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill. I was dying to be a series regular
Speaker 1: and like for the first season, and they were kind
Speaker 1: of like, I don't know, maybe there's a big cast
Speaker 1: and just get in line, all right. Well, I really
Speaker 1: loved the show and I loved the role and um,
Speaker 1: and then I got this other thing called Unscripted, which
Speaker 1: is an HBO show with George Clooney and uh, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to take this and then
Speaker 1: I was like, well, well now we want you. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well it's not that works. But I
Speaker 1: was like too late, you know so, But but we
Speaker 1: worked it out so we could I could keep coming back.
Speaker 1: And I know even after I did Prime, I'd like
Speaker 1: I kept coming back and kept coming back, like seasons.
Speaker 1: I think, what do you think made you want to
Speaker 1: keep coming back? I just I mean the show, like
Speaker 1: it was a really special show those first I only
Speaker 1: know the early one three Hill Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened later on um because there's like a whole
Speaker 1: cast of characters that I never have never even met.
Speaker 1: But I just felt like we had something special. And
Speaker 1: I love the character and I love working with all
Speaker 1: of you, and I don't know, I just felt like
Speaker 1: we were onto something. I didn't want to let it go.
Speaker 1: And it was such a cool, like a rich character
Speaker 1: that I love playing. In the fans we're really responded
Speaker 1: to it too, so I wanted to give them, you know,
Speaker 1: a full arc. They did. And you always had such
Speaker 1: a maturity about you anyway, I think that's what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we were all sort of fumbling around as young kids,
Speaker 1: and you felt there was something about you that felt
Speaker 1: like mature and like you had seen more than we
Speaker 1: had seen in life, and like, I don't know, did
Speaker 1: you do you remember graduated college? Brian? I knew I
Speaker 1: had been on a few sets. Well maybe I did
Speaker 1: a movie before. That was kind of like why I
Speaker 1: had like the seniority or the experience, but I didn't
Speaker 1: do I was never on like a real show. That
Speaker 1: was like I think my first recurring character. So I
Speaker 1: mean I was just you guys, like I didn't know what.
Speaker 1: We had fun though, I mean we got to do
Speaker 1: fun outside of the show too, Like there was a
Speaker 1: period where MTV had you and I host a Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day special because like Peyton and Jake were like hot
Speaker 1: and heavy at the time, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: feel like I got photo booth pictures to say, I
Speaker 1: had that on my fridge for like years. The photo
Speaker 1: you did, Yeah, I don't know where they are. Those
Speaker 1: We had to have fun. And then Brian had this
Speaker 1: pack of buddies from n y U and anytime we
Speaker 1: all had to go do press in New York, I
Speaker 1: was like yo yo, and I just used him to like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we wanted a lot. Actually during those days, you had
Speaker 1: fun friends there still fun. Actually they're not funny now, Brian,
Speaker 1: We're not fun anymore. It's a memory. What's your favorite
Speaker 1: memory of just like hanging out in Wilmington's what was Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to know. What are your favorite places? Oh, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember going to that Dixie Diner
Speaker 1: a lot back. Yeah. Yeah, then yeah, I remember everyone.
Speaker 1: You bought a house and you gave me a tour
Speaker 1: of it for the first time, and I just remember
Speaker 1: so much taxidermy. Oh yeah, really dark well paint and
Speaker 1: so much I got you. Oh my god. Joy just
Speaker 1: bought me a book on taxidermy called Creepy Taxidermy, and
Speaker 1: my kids are Um, you guys, I go through phases.
Speaker 1: I was in dark You're not still in the taxidermy phase. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I still have all of it and more. Um.
Speaker 1: I just have like two kids in the house, so
Speaker 1: I try not to creep him out. Um. We told
Speaker 1: my story on the podcast, Bryan about you leaving your
Speaker 1: guitar at my house away for the time being like
Speaker 1: what the this and coming in out of town and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to travel with the guitar and I
Speaker 1: was like kind of yeah, and you were the dude
Speaker 1: everybody's boyfriend hated you because they were like this dude
Speaker 1: coming in singing the songs, being cool, your boyfriend who
Speaker 1: was part on the crew as well. Yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was around we had to do those love making scenes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was one for everyone that was awkward. That the
Speaker 1: worst was always there was no Hillary was right. You
Speaker 1: were the guy who all the other guys were really
Speaker 1: mad about, and like what you were saying earlier that
Speaker 1: we all don't know. We responded to your calm and
Speaker 1: you're cool, and even if it was one movie, you
Speaker 1: really seemed like you knew what you were doing in
Speaker 1: the industry, and we were all like a little fumbling.
Speaker 1: Like every time you would like tell one of us
Speaker 1: we've done a good job on something, we'd be like
Speaker 1: Brian said, I do a good job. Yeah, growing I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I've figured something out, And
Speaker 1: all the other guys in the room were just like,
Speaker 1: shut up, we're not. We still haven't. I think like you,
Speaker 1: you were all stuck in this bubble of being series regulars,
Speaker 1: and I had I could come in and give some
Speaker 1: perspective because I would pop in and pop out like
Speaker 1: I was never there for too long, and so I
Speaker 1: kind of came in and I got to like change
Speaker 1: up the energy a little bit and just like you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of clean the palette a little bit, and
Speaker 1: then i'd be out um when I come back from
Speaker 1: my guitar. But I don't know memories. We just remember
Speaker 1: we all hung out all the time. It was so
Speaker 1: much fun. How many anythings did you do? Uh? I
Speaker 1: remember I did? I think on Off for the first
Speaker 1: three seasons, and I didn't do the pilot like I
Speaker 1: came in the second episode. Yeah, we talked about all
Speaker 1: the time, how your real life lucas introspect, you know,
Speaker 1: just like introspective and like you know, problems over where
Speaker 1: are you coming and going and coming and going? Was
Speaker 1: that you were actually playing music like you started playing
Speaker 1: music on the show the season two or season three.
Speaker 1: You can't remember what we were doing those shows together.
Speaker 1: We would go on tour and we played a show together.
Speaker 1: That was a highlight for me. Just doing all those
Speaker 1: concerts and let Us Brian Us two were blues and
Speaker 1: all that stuff and was so much fun. Did we
Speaker 1: never did a song together? Did we? I don't know
Speaker 1: if we did. I mean I remember going to see
Speaker 1: you perform Cafe that but that was just your show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think we did a House of Blues gig.
Speaker 1: It's never too late hey you. In fact, it's exactly
Speaker 1: that voice back. Let's talk right, it's coming back. Why
Speaker 1: are you still performing? What's going on? COVID kind of
Speaker 1: made concerts a weird thing, but I haven't. Yeah, since COVID,
Speaker 1: I haven't. I did like some online stuff, but I
Speaker 1: haven't really been playing stuff from my kids. I've been
Speaker 1: working more on you know, writing, and I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I have been you know, acting, and I'm about to
Speaker 1: direct the movie that I wrote, which I'm really excait.
Speaker 1: Is about energy is like going towards that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: hard to do, and music does take a lot out
Speaker 1: of you. And me had seasons where I'm writing furiously,
Speaker 1: and then I'll go for like a two or three
Speaker 1: year stretch where I'm not writing anything musically because all
Speaker 1: my creative energy is focused on a story or some
Speaker 1: other project that I'm doing. It's just because a song
Speaker 1: will I mean, I don't know how you write, but
Speaker 1: for me, a song will live with I'll start it
Speaker 1: and it lives with me for like a week, two
Speaker 1: weeks three weeks, I can kind of piece it all
Speaker 1: the other You're walking or whatever, I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you do? Every song is different, but I remember, like someday,
Speaker 1: for example, I remember I Was I Was, which was
Speaker 1: on the show UM featured on the show. I remember
Speaker 1: I went to New York to do some press for something,
Speaker 1: and the producer for Once Your Hill was like, you
Speaker 1: have to shoot the next day. You have to fly
Speaker 1: back in. And there was a huge snowstorm in New
Speaker 1: York and I couldn't come back in, and so he's like,
Speaker 1: you gotta drive. I'm like, I'm not dying. I'm not
Speaker 1: dying for the show, but I mean I'll try. I'll
Speaker 1: do whatever I can. I like the show theren But
Speaker 1: so I took a train and I had like a
Speaker 1: fifteen hour train ride from from New York to UH
Speaker 1: to Raleigh actually, and I just remember writing it on
Speaker 1: that train, just seeing you know, the state's go blind.
Speaker 1: It sounds so clear, and I just kind of started
Speaker 1: writing it and I had the song in my head
Speaker 1: when I got to the hotel, and like it all
Speaker 1: came out. UM. I vividly remember that. I still think
Speaker 1: that's one of the better songs I've ever written, and
Speaker 1: I remember that the process that vividly. I felt so cool.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I just feel like I
Speaker 1: only have so much creative energy and I right now
Speaker 1: I just kind of put it in a different place.
Speaker 1: But I still love music. It's still there and it's
Speaker 1: a huge party. Father was a new parent though, too.
Speaker 1: I mean that the Lions share. George just turned four,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like I'm sort of getting like together.
Speaker 1: I'm like a four year, four year gap. My man,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so You're gonna have gray hair like
Speaker 1: me in four years. Right now whatever? Right now, you
Speaker 1: still look exactly like you did fifteen years ago. I
Speaker 1: had two different looks, like that was the first season
Speaker 1: like hair bangs, Oh the bangs. We all had puka
Speaker 1: shells in season one with your jeans, and so did we. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm calling myself out here too. It's like it's all
Speaker 1: coming back to that, Hey made your wife is such
Speaker 1: a good sport. Um she Jamie is an amazing actress
Speaker 1: in her own right and has like a brilliant career.
Speaker 1: And I have always appreciated that she's a fellow MTV girl.
Speaker 1: You know, she probably hears about Jake jagel Ski more
Speaker 1: than she wants to. Um, I don't like hearing about
Speaker 1: my husband. She like, I don't hear about Denny. Is
Speaker 1: she a good sport about it? Is? She like? But
Speaker 1: she's also kind of like what like shes At some point,
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna watch it because she's just heard
Speaker 1: about it so much and people it's it's the craziest
Speaker 1: thing that I've done a lot of work, but this
Speaker 1: show is it has an audience like no other, And
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where are we going the world. That
Speaker 1: could be in Brazil and France wherever. Like people are
Speaker 1: coming up and then saying Jake, Jake Elsie and she's
Speaker 1: just never seen it. And I think one of these
Speaker 1: days was just gonna cave and I watch it. Do
Speaker 1: you have anywhere else here? I haven't seen it since
Speaker 1: it aired. Oh yeah, you guys should watch it together
Speaker 1: some distance from it too, So I think it's just
Speaker 1: interesting to watch. That's why we started this podcast. Man.
Speaker 1: We were like, why is it so special? And the
Speaker 1: first episode we watched together, we were all bawling. By
Speaker 1: the end. We were like, oh no, you've all working
Speaker 1: on a bunch of stuff like why do you think
Speaker 1: this show connects with an audience so much all these
Speaker 1: years later, Because it's the thing that airs when you're
Speaker 1: forming your identity. I think we all identify with things
Speaker 1: we watched when we were teenagers or young adults, because
Speaker 1: you're formulating your identity at the same time, these characters
Speaker 1: are also being formulated, and there's a bond there, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't connect with characters now as a grown up.
Speaker 1: I'm like Nietz, you know. But that thing that you
Speaker 1: watch when you're like malleable is important. I think there's
Speaker 1: also something to it, you know. I think Joy you
Speaker 1: might have been the first person who said this, Like
Speaker 1: there was no fantasy, There was no like gimmick, No
Speaker 1: one's a superhero, no one's a vampire, no one's awarewolf.
Speaker 1: We all like those movies, but it was like kind
Speaker 1: of the last best place to go to just see
Speaker 1: groups of friends trying to figure out how to be
Speaker 1: good humans, pre social media, pre iPhone, you know, like
Speaker 1: just a group of kids trying to find their posts
Speaker 1: in the world. And that's a universal truth. And so
Speaker 1: I think despite having since yeah, and despite the premiered
Speaker 1: so long ago, still ring so true when you tune
Speaker 1: in and you watch, you go like, oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: that's telling the truth to me. Well, I think it's interesting,
Speaker 1: is you know, we're seeing a whole second generation discovering
Speaker 1: it now. Like now it's like it's crazy how it's
Speaker 1: got a whole other life. Yeah. I think it's like
Speaker 1: ironic to them in the same way, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, not really watching it like enthusiastically, they're like
Speaker 1: just watching but it may have started that way, but
Speaker 1: there's no denying that you fall in love with these characters.
Speaker 1: So even if it's like, oh, this will be cool
Speaker 1: and retro to watch, the fact is there's nothing like
Speaker 1: it on television right now for teenagers. Everything is high
Speaker 1: genre driven and to be able to give teenagers a
Speaker 1: safe space. Might I have a little brother who's twenty,
Speaker 1: and he texted me the other day, what were the nineties? Like,
Speaker 1: what was it like in the late nineties? Wow? So
Speaker 1: before so also life like before a cell phone, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's cool that they're interest it in
Speaker 1: that because it was a very different time. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Where would where would Jake Jakalski be right now? Babe? Like,
Speaker 1: what's Jake? What what hasn't been up to the road,
Speaker 1: do you think, well, because now, yeah, he's probably like
Speaker 1: maybe he's um, maybe he's like what Verry was like.
Speaker 1: He maybe he's like the new coach, like the new
Speaker 1: the new gratchy coach, drinking real heavily. That's what he
Speaker 1: wants to be too. So I would be really into
Speaker 1: a sports team run by skills in Jake JASKI gotta
Speaker 1: be honest good Yeah, yeah, I mean like rival rival
Speaker 1: teams that were going at it that could be good.
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: like Jake could be or he could be you know,
Speaker 1: Jack Dorsey. I mean he's like you don't he's so
Speaker 1: he's so random. You know, he is so random because
Speaker 1: I completely forgot about the storyline down the road where
Speaker 1: like Jake gets arrested and goes to jail. What guys,
Speaker 1: it's coming. Was like pounding on the glass. You and
Speaker 1: I had our hands up on the glass each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was what you say. It was all to protect Jenny. Yeah, okay, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: You know you were mentioning that there's fans all over
Speaker 1: the world of this show. No matter where you go,
Speaker 1: people recognize you. Are there any specific fan encounters that
Speaker 1: you remember that we're like either really meaningful or really
Speaker 1: crazy or I don't know, what's just like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it happens a lot with this show. Um as. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys all know, but um, I mean I
Speaker 1: was in Paris last year, by the way, it's huge
Speaker 1: in France. Me. Yeah, more interested in front of um
Speaker 1: I know. Um but like suddenly came up to me
Speaker 1: and they're like like, oh, you play basketball And I'm
Speaker 1: like what, And I'm like, yeah, I mean I have
Speaker 1: in the past. I don't like yeah, but with Scott's
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what you know with the Scots, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I didn't know that. It was
Speaker 1: like it had another name out there. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had no idea what they were saying. So it
Speaker 1: took a little while, but um, yeah, it's huge, it's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about you. I don't know what we got. We
Speaker 1: got reminded today people were talking about being so excited
Speaker 1: for this and they posted a bunch of photos from
Speaker 1: the last convention that you and I and Hillary brab
Speaker 1: Ban the One and Willing to Enjoy You were working,
Speaker 1: so you remember you couldn't be there, but people were
Speaker 1: posting those photos we all took together and and someone
Speaker 1: posted the video of the girls who got engaged that
Speaker 1: we helped with Hill the photo for a fan and
Speaker 1: the whole thing was a ruse and they were video
Speaker 1: cameras going and her girlfriend set it up and we
Speaker 1: literally were like holding her up when she almost fainted
Speaker 1: from the surprise of being proposed. We were just like,
Speaker 1: this is a very intimate special moment for us Mut's
Speaker 1: pay pictures. People do they really feel like the show
Speaker 1: is like these characters meet so much to them and
Speaker 1: you guys, I went to go see Greenberg play in
Speaker 1: Vancouver right after I left the show. So I left
Speaker 1: the show. I went and I had a secret baby.
Speaker 1: Gus was a year old. So One Tree Hill was
Speaker 1: still on the air but we weren't on it, and
Speaker 1: Jeff was shooting a movie to Vancouver and Greenberg is like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm in town right maybe I saw a flyer and
Speaker 1: I was like, are you here? And so I went
Speaker 1: to go see Greenberg and all the girls in the
Speaker 1: audience are like on the baby with you know. I
Speaker 1: had my Gus in like a Bjorn and people were
Speaker 1: like it's baby, Jenny. No, but we did go to
Speaker 1: lunch the next day and I brought my baby. And
Speaker 1: it was so weird for you because you're, like, you
Speaker 1: really have a baby, like we worked with the baby
Speaker 1: you were young. I didn't have a baby until ten
Speaker 1: twelve years after that, so that was blowing my mind.
Speaker 1: I was just not in that that headspace. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: now you've got he's like a man, he's shaving up. Yeah, kids,
Speaker 1: got a mustache. It's crazy. Is there anything that's been
Speaker 1: really surprising for you about parenthood. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: they're I know they're really little. Still, I guess what
Speaker 1: I was surprised most by was, um, just how many
Speaker 1: people in your life step up and like how people
Speaker 1: say it takes a village, and I didn't really you
Speaker 1: hear that, but I didn't really realize until we needed
Speaker 1: the help, and so many of our friends and family
Speaker 1: we have stepped up and gotten on planes and then
Speaker 1: showed up and there. Because two at the same time
Speaker 1: when you don't know what you're doing is intense. So
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just it's deep in my appreciation and
Speaker 1: my love for my support system. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um all right, Well, you're directing a movie. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: dadding it up. Um, start that in May, I think, really,
Speaker 1: all right, where are you guys going to shoot it?
Speaker 1: Probably Rhode Island, Yeah, probably after two weeks prep. And
Speaker 1: it's my first time directing. So it's the drama. It's
Speaker 1: called Junction. Um, so it's gonna be an intense but
Speaker 1: I love indies. It's gonna be an intense intense you
Speaker 1: for like a month and a half and then yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be editing all summer. But I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: been working. I just finished a really cool movie with
Speaker 1: Jonah Hill and Eddie Murphy called You People. That's coming
Speaker 1: out on Netflix. Casual. Yeah, there you go, special Drop.
Speaker 1: We love him. He's so just easy and cool cool. Hey,
Speaker 1: well I was chilling during COVID, so that came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. I was like, Okay, that's that's awesome. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's nice that you deserve it. You deserve all
Speaker 1: of it. You're so talented and so he worked with
Speaker 1: such a constant professional and so fun And I'm just
Speaker 1: so bad for all the success that comes your way,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to I want to find something
Speaker 1: else for all of us to work on together. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say it. Everything is real sparkly
Speaker 1: when we're together. Guys, make sure just make sure you
Speaker 1: bring your guitar. You can leave it at my house, Brian,
Speaker 1: no one about it. Got to start leaving stuff in
Speaker 1: your house. Now. I'm just gonna leave this about whiskey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we Hey, will you come on the regular podcast in
Speaker 1: season three when Jake and Peyton are in Savannah? So
Speaker 1: how's it work with watching the episode we talk about it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm gonna make you sit down you're watching it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so good you would talk with you honestly, like,
Speaker 1: I've missed your face. Man, I love all of you
Speaker 1: so much. Really, congrats on the success of this and
Speaker 1: your show, Sophia, I know you guys draw that's so
Speaker 1: cool face. I love you. Um, alright, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: see you soon. Then it's aty fantastic all right, tell
Speaker 1: the family we said, Hibs, I love him so much?
Speaker 1: Is that the quietest I've ever been during an interview?
Speaker 1: I just sat like this. I think it was. I
Speaker 1: think it was. Also, why is your lighting amazing? You're
Speaker 1: like in a basement to find the best lighting no
Speaker 1: matter where you go. I was gonna say that about yours.
Speaker 1: I feel like I look like I'm being interrogated by
Speaker 1: the police. It's like, I'm so mad. Guys. We ordered
Speaker 1: these cute me on, you know, trick lightning bolts, and
Speaker 1: I was so excited to get off work in time
Speaker 1: to do this that I ran out of the van.
Speaker 1: And now sweet Doug, who drives me to work as
Speaker 1: a lightning bolt in his van, it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: right here. I can't do it. There goes What's cool
Speaker 1: is seen throughout the course of like twenty three million
Speaker 1: downloads and all the fan interactions, is seen them to
Speaker 1: their drama queens rooms and like put their crowns out
Speaker 1: and their lightning bolts out, and it kind of made
Speaker 1: us a little bit like, you know, we had we
Speaker 1: had a little bit of envy. We were like, well,
Speaker 1: I want to pick me on, Like I want to
Speaker 1: hear more of what the fans have to say, because
Speaker 1: they've been been sending it a lot of questions and
Speaker 1: comments and I can't wait to hear. Oh, we have
Speaker 1: one already. Well, while we answer these, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: another drink. But item from set with each of us. Oh,
Speaker 1: did we wish we took we took what item from set? Um?
Speaker 1: From this set? You know, Sophia and I have spoken
Speaker 1: at length about that red vintage couch that was in
Speaker 1: Karen's cafe. It was a really good It was a
Speaker 1: curved couch in the corner front window. It's beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish we had that. The cut out of the
Speaker 1: toe the Wetsprocket song, what what what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Everything is better and everything is safe? That's what? Did
Speaker 1: you think it was wrong? I know it was a
Speaker 1: song I but I didn't think it was for that band.
Speaker 1: Somebody told me this is the place everything's better and
Speaker 1: everything's saying. Yeah, it's called walk on the Ocean. I
Speaker 1: think you want not think they sang that because I
Speaker 1: heard did you cover it? Who covered it? Because I
Speaker 1: just felt like, I just feel like that's our song.
Speaker 1: I wish I took that. Hillary, we have another question.
Speaker 1: But tell us what you what would you have taken?
Speaker 1: You know what? I'm mad I didn't take. In later seasons,
Speaker 1: they got a really cool old black pickup truck for
Speaker 1: Julian for my husband's character. Most of blue Gie taking
Speaker 1: cars and taking it. I mean, I like you have
Speaker 1: the comment and I want that truck. I'm mad about it.
Speaker 1: Next question, Rebecca, Oh, this is sweet. If you had
Speaker 1: a yearbook for yourself right now, what would your senior
Speaker 1: quote be? I mean, apparently it would be from a
Speaker 1: toad Weets Rocket song. Have we been saying that quote
Speaker 1: and writing that quote? And I had zero idea, no idea,
Speaker 1: no clue. Oh guys, okay, Um, my senior quote is
Speaker 1: I mean come to you? Okay. So here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I was kind of told my senior year in high
Speaker 1: school because I was just ready to get out of
Speaker 1: Virginia and go to New York, and I had a
Speaker 1: little bit of a chip on my shoulder about certain
Speaker 1: things in my small town. And I won the Senior
Speaker 1: superlative most Dramatic, and my quote in like this little
Speaker 1: senior like book it that comes out was if you
Speaker 1: thought I liked you in high school, I was only acting.
Speaker 1: And I cringed about that right now because it's so
Speaker 1: bitchy and like so unwarranted, because I really hometown and
Speaker 1: I really love all the kids I graduated with, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, why, So, what would your quote me, now
Speaker 1: then if if this was your senior year, I'm sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: it's Simon Birch. I'm sorry. Yeah. Good. Of all the
Speaker 1: houses on the show, such as Brooks, Felix Stands, all
Speaker 1: the houses are big. Are those actual houses in Welmington's
Speaker 1: and are they actually all that big? Well, Joy and
Speaker 1: I lived on the opposite side of the tracks. Haley
Speaker 1: and Brooke or Haley and Payton's house are actually right
Speaker 1: next door to each other. Um, They're just across there,
Speaker 1: like catty corner from each other. And we are actually
Speaker 1: over by New Hanover High School, which is another I
Speaker 1: want to say, it's another title one school. And so
Speaker 1: I liked that chapter one? Why am I thinking chapter one? Probably? Um?
Speaker 1: But yeah, so your house was for sure real? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Brooke and Felix's house were next door to each other,
Speaker 1: and they were definitely in like a fancy part of town.
Speaker 1: They were big homes. And then where Dan's house was
Speaker 1: was like the fancy, fancy, fancy fancy that was like
Speaker 1: houses and guest houses and like big. I was not
Speaker 1: accustomed to anything and seeing anything like that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: this kind of small though, I mean, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: they were like we had little pockets of every kind
Speaker 1: of sort of socioeconomic experience. The one thing I don't
Speaker 1: think we really ever showed though, I don't think we
Speaker 1: ever had a family in an apartment, which feels weird
Speaker 1: because so many families live in apartments. But I guess
Speaker 1: maybe because Wilmington is such a house town, Like the
Speaker 1: apartment started getting built there in the later years that
Speaker 1: we were filming there weren't really even many apartment buildings
Speaker 1: and college kids living there college it was college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really like this next question, smart, This is a
Speaker 1: good one. Well, when you guys had scenes on the phone,
Speaker 1: were you actually dogging to someone mike Leone, mike leone
Speaker 1: every time, Supervisor. I remember one call when I actually
Speaker 1: I think we actually had James on the phone, or
Speaker 1: it might have been. And there was another one when
Speaker 1: we had Paul, I had Paul reading. We called Paul
Speaker 1: and he read someone else's lines for me because it
Speaker 1: was like an acting moment and I just needed some
Speaker 1: real feedback. Yeah. I definitely feel most of the time
Speaker 1: they'll just have yeah the script supervisor read for you,
Speaker 1: which is super weird, especially because those people are usually
Speaker 1: your friends, but not people on the show, and then
Speaker 1: we started to do things like if we were at
Speaker 1: work at the same time, if you you know, if
Speaker 1: if Hailey had to call Brooke and I was like
Speaker 1: in the parent makeup t I'd run in and do
Speaker 1: the off camera. We we really started to do that
Speaker 1: free truck. It's hard to act with like essentially like
Speaker 1: your friend's dad pretending to be Peyton. Like it's weird.
Speaker 1: So we we tried. But yeah, sometimes you've got somebody
Speaker 1: being like, well, g Brooke and you're like stop it,
Speaker 1: I can't you're doing this. Yeah, it's in What ways
Speaker 1: do you think Sam is similar different than Brooke Davis?
Speaker 1: Do you think they have any similar personality traits? Sam?
Speaker 1: That's so sweet? Um, you know, I think they're both
Speaker 1: really motivated women who aren't going to let anything in
Speaker 1: the world hold them back from achieving in a really um,
Speaker 1: you know, competitive landscape and also in like a major way.
Speaker 1: I think I think Sam is a little calmer, perhaps
Speaker 1: a little more professional than Brooke Davis, but there's she's
Speaker 1: feisty in there, like you don't wanna you don't want
Speaker 1: to push her, So yeah, I don't know, maybe they
Speaker 1: are somewhere. What did you guys, see when you came
Speaker 1: to the set, well, listen, Brook Davis was always the boss, always, always,
Speaker 1: always the boss, And we didn't really get to see
Speaker 1: her go into her thirties, you know, and get like
Speaker 1: closer to authority. We saw her in those years where
Speaker 1: we all are kind of just testing the waters, and
Speaker 1: so a self assured Brooke Davis is every bit as
Speaker 1: calm and powerful as Sam. I think that's right. Brook was.
Speaker 1: She was always the boss, but not everyone always saw it,
Speaker 1: and she was trying. She was young and just kind
Speaker 1: of scrappy in a way of like trying to constantly
Speaker 1: prove it, and there was there's an elegance and a
Speaker 1: settledness to Sam. I have sat here today. This is
Speaker 1: what I want you guys. It's our fourth Surama Queen.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so beautiful. Dr Lex truly has a
Speaker 1: new look. It's actually well her part in the middle today.
Speaker 1: But usually we have the exact same time, like you
Speaker 1: too can beat the Sophia Rush and Strawberry Um. You guys,
Speaker 1: we were really lucky when we came up to to
Speaker 1: film Good Sam, because your cast was so so so
Speaker 1: welcoming and oh my god, my cheerleading photo. Look at
Speaker 1: our cheerleading knees, like all of us got right into formation.
Speaker 1: I love the photo. It was like perfect thing. Wells
Speaker 1: about your high school experience? Who were you in high school? Sky?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny that you asked, because
Speaker 1: I was literally just downstairs talking to Jason Isaac's about
Speaker 1: my high school experience. And I went to high school
Speaker 1: in to Lincoln Park High School in Chicago, and anyone
Speaker 1: who knows Chicago knows that UM at that time in
Speaker 1: Lincoln Park where Lincoln Part High School is. It was
Speaker 1: right in the district of the kids of Lincoln Park,
Speaker 1: very wealthy, very smart kid majority white, and Cabrini Green,
Speaker 1: the roughest projects in Chicago. So that's where I really
Speaker 1: learned how to like code switch because my sister was
Speaker 1: very much attached to the Cabrini Green crowd, and I
Speaker 1: was very much attached to the very smart like I
Speaker 1: believe we're gonna go, We're gonna shoot to the sky,
Speaker 1: like very ambitious and outgoing, and they were just more
Speaker 1: into the things that I was into. But I had
Speaker 1: to keep like kind of playing both sides, which is
Speaker 1: quite interesting because that was something important to me that
Speaker 1: I wanted to do with Dr Lex truly. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because wow, I may be able to like be myself
Speaker 1: with my friends, I still know like in America, it's
Speaker 1: best to just switch over to mainstream and talk a
Speaker 1: certain type of way so that the patient can trust
Speaker 1: you with their life in your hands. So many people
Speaker 1: are preconditioned to like only trust what they know and
Speaker 1: like what they're comfortable with, and so if you come
Speaker 1: with any kind of energy that's not familiar to them,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is bad, this is wrong, this
Speaker 1: is you know, uncomfortable. And so I love that your
Speaker 1: character is shaking things up. I love that you have
Speaker 1: this military background where you're like a beautiful homecoming queen cheerleader.
Speaker 1: That's also like I'm really good with funds. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam was my sugar daddy. He bought me all
Speaker 1: my books in school. Sure I was into the military,
Speaker 1: you know, Honestly, um my dad was a doc he
Speaker 1: and my mom was a teacher, and I would hear
Speaker 1: them talk about student debt all the time. And like
Speaker 1: I share the story with Sophia, Like I thought Sally
Speaker 1: May was a real like woman with like a very
Speaker 1: beautiful silver silver locks and she made am She made
Speaker 1: America Pies every weekend, just the sweet sweet Sally May
Speaker 1: like the sweetest woman, and she just want to make
Speaker 1: sure you got that education. So she gonna get but
Speaker 1: she's gonna have to get that. Sally and I had
Speaker 1: this this that was a very I had a very
Speaker 1: vivid imagination as a kid. So I thought Sami. I
Speaker 1: was like, honey, Sally May, I don't want any relationship
Speaker 1: with saving. And she's sound sweet, but I don't want
Speaker 1: her money. And and I just kind of grew up
Speaker 1: not wanting to have that that umbrella of debt that
Speaker 1: just forces these young kids to go straight into the
Speaker 1: corporate world to pay off this this dad, when like,
Speaker 1: how do we know who we want to be at
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years old? I didn't decide to act until
Speaker 1: I was twenty nine, really, girl, and I did not
Speaker 1: have a resident a uh formal training. I had life experience,
Speaker 1: and that's what I took in the room. How would
Speaker 1: you make preparate myself? You know, I was sitting in
Speaker 1: a cubicle for two years in New York, a cubicle
Speaker 1: that I worked so hard to get to. You know,
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have my Cary brash all
Speaker 1: life and just like make this money and wear cool
Speaker 1: shoes and hang out with Wall Street models and like
Speaker 1: that was just gonna be the life. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: the life, but it was like totally opposite ends of
Speaker 1: the spectrum. It was like I was partying hard and
Speaker 1: then back in this just very sterile, neutral cubicle world
Speaker 1: that was just sucking the life out of me. But
Speaker 1: what I noticed is they would always send me in
Speaker 1: two boardrooms to close the deals because I would go
Speaker 1: in there because it was a pharmaceutical market, this woman
Speaker 1: doing any kind of I would go in there. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, so we drugs and wood and these are
Speaker 1: like a bunch of like birds and you know, so
Speaker 1: like I was just going there and make it fun
Speaker 1: and like yeah, So they would always in the end,
Speaker 1: but I was like I'm performing, like I'm getting yes
Speaker 1: and yeah. And and then after that, everyone just kept
Speaker 1: saying to me like are you you never thought about acting?
Speaker 1: Like you've never you never, And I'm like, I mean,
Speaker 1: of course I've thought about it. I was in dance place,
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, I was always in dance theater
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, and recitals like I was
Speaker 1: never afraid of the stage and another version of me
Speaker 1: would show up. Um, I knew the who am I?
Speaker 1: Based off of where I am and who I'm talking to?
Speaker 1: Like the who am I with you ladies isn't the
Speaker 1: who am I with my mom? Or the who am
Speaker 1: I a cop pulls me over? Or the who am
Speaker 1: I in the courtroom or at the club? Right? So
Speaker 1: I learned that very early on on. How can it
Speaker 1: serve for me? Because at the age of seventeen, I've
Speaker 1: had to figure everything out in my life because while
Speaker 1: I may have said my dad as a doctor, my
Speaker 1: mom's teacher, she hit the fan when I was twelve,
Speaker 1: So like, I had to really learn how to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 1: how can I how can I not fall into the
Speaker 1: whole in the wrap of being somebody's baby mama and
Speaker 1: doing nails in Chicago, which was like what I was
Speaker 1: surrounded by. So when I went to the military, that's
Speaker 1: where it really helped because it taught me how to
Speaker 1: process and utilize fear. And then the corporate world taught
Speaker 1: me how to market, so I was able to market myself.
Speaker 1: I didn't have an agent when I got go Sam.
Speaker 1: I haven't had an agent and said, since you, she
Speaker 1: goes do yeah, I message, I miss. It's just amazing.
Speaker 1: We're getting ready to wrap, so we can send people
Speaker 1: to watch whatever. You know. But I want to know
Speaker 1: when you were growing up, who were the drama queens
Speaker 1: that you looked up to? Who were your drama queen? Here,
Speaker 1: Rapid Fire, let's go, Lisa Turtle and Shannon Aerty On Nanatino.
Speaker 1: That was that was my dam I was a to
Speaker 1: those and I record every episode and because in tapes,
Speaker 1: and then my ends and neighborhood would come over and
Speaker 1: they would rent episodes and I hadn't had a numbered
Speaker 1: from season and season and I were rented out like
Speaker 1: Black Buster. I had a library and it was business
Speaker 1: and I was making money off and I was amazing.
Speaker 1: You guys can go. Everybody out there, you guys can come.
Speaker 1: Let's come watch these amazing women as these incredible doctors
Speaker 1: come on. And it was so special. I loved working
Speaker 1: with you Sky and uh, we're gonna party in New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, were you coming to be with the two
Speaker 1: of us? Was so cool? And I remember when you left,
Speaker 1: she was like, that's what we're doing, like building these
Speaker 1: families and I'm so excited for everyone. Two minutes guys too,
Speaker 1: Good Sam episode eight of season one with these two
Speaker 1: gorgeous ladies and us and my cast that's downstairs right here. Yeah, okay, listen.
Speaker 1: The cast was so so cool. Sophia knew what a
Speaker 1: huge crush I had on j and Isaac's geeked out
Speaker 1: so quick already knows Sky I get you out so hard.
Speaker 1: They took a picture and guy, um no, honestly, please
Speaker 1: give all of them great, big, huge hugs for us
Speaker 1: because it was so nice to be welcomed into your family.
Speaker 1: And we're so excited to, you know, send all our
Speaker 1: drama queens fans over to hang out on the on
Speaker 1: the medical set of Good Sam. You guys are change
Speaker 1: in the world. I can't wait for you all to
Speaker 1: see the episode. I think we have. Who did this
Speaker 1: little treat come from? Which one of you took this?
Speaker 1: We filmed it? I don't remember you filmed. This is
Speaker 1: our favorite moment from being on set and I love you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having us you, thank you, thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us, everybody, Thanks for joining us. Everybody. We have
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Speaker 1: every so often to make a pep talks in the
Speaker 1: morning to thank you guys for being the most stellar crew,
Speaker 1: and like most tremendous background players that you know, I
Speaker 1: get to go rag about outside of here. Um. I
Speaker 1: know I've never cried what I've done one of these before.
Speaker 1: But the reason I'm so emotional isn't it. My two
Speaker 1: best friends came employed with us. This we and these
Speaker 1: girls and I grew up together. We started on our
Speaker 1: first show over twenty one We literally have been to
Speaker 1: hound and back. They are my family, your family, and
Speaker 1: you welcome them with open arms. And it's been yeah,