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Speaker 1: if we did. I mean I remember going to see

426
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: you perform Cafe that but that was just your show. Yeah,

427
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: and I think we did a House of Blues gig.

428
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: It's never too late hey you. In fact, it's exactly

429
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: that voice back. Let's talk right, it's coming back. Why

430
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: are you still performing? What's going on? COVID kind of

431
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: made concerts a weird thing, but I haven't. Yeah, since COVID,

432
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: I haven't. I did like some online stuff, but I

433
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: haven't really been playing stuff from my kids. I've been

434
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: working more on you know, writing, and I'm you know,

435
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: I have been you know, acting, and I'm about to

436
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: direct the movie that I wrote, which I'm really excait.

437
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Is about energy is like going towards that. Yeah, it's

438
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: hard to do, and music does take a lot out

439
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: of you. And me had seasons where I'm writing furiously,

440
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: and then I'll go for like a two or three

441
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: year stretch where I'm not writing anything musically because all

442
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: my creative energy is focused on a story or some

443
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: other project that I'm doing. It's just because a song

444
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: will I mean, I don't know how you write, but

445
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: for me, a song will live with I'll start it

446
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: and it lives with me for like a week, two

447
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: weeks three weeks, I can kind of piece it all

448
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: the other You're walking or whatever, I mean, what do

449
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: you do? Every song is different, but I remember, like someday,

450
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: for example, I remember I Was I Was, which was

451
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: on the show UM featured on the show. I remember

452
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: I went to New York to do some press for something,

453
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: and the producer for Once Your Hill was like, you

454
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: have to shoot the next day. You have to fly

455
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: back in. And there was a huge snowstorm in New

456
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: York and I couldn't come back in, and so he's like,

457
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: you gotta drive. I'm like, I'm not dying. I'm not

458
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: dying for the show, but I mean I'll try. I'll

459
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: do whatever I can. I like the show theren But

460
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: so I took a train and I had like a

461
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: fifteen hour train ride from from New York to UH

462
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: to Raleigh actually, and I just remember writing it on

463
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: that train, just seeing you know, the state's go blind.

464
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: It sounds so clear, and I just kind of started

465
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: writing it and I had the song in my head

466
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: when I got to the hotel, and like it all

467
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: came out. UM. I vividly remember that. I still think

468
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: that's one of the better songs I've ever written, and

469
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: I remember that the process that vividly. I felt so cool.

470
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I just feel like I

471
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: only have so much creative energy and I right now

472
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I just kind of put it in a different place.

473
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: But I still love music. It's still there and it's

474
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: a huge party. Father was a new parent though, too.

475
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean that the Lions share. George just turned four,

476
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: and I just feel like I'm sort of getting like together.

477
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm like a four year, four year gap. My man,

478
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so You're gonna have gray hair like

479
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: me in four years. Right now whatever? Right now, you

480
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: still look exactly like you did fifteen years ago. I

481
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: had two different looks, like that was the first season

482
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: like hair bangs, Oh the bangs. We all had puka

483
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: shells in season one with your jeans, and so did we. Honestly,

484
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm calling myself out here too. It's like it's all

485
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: coming back to that, Hey made your wife is such

486
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: a good sport. Um she Jamie is an amazing actress

487
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: in her own right and has like a brilliant career.

488
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: And I have always appreciated that she's a fellow MTV girl.

489
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: You know, she probably hears about Jake jagel Ski more

490
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: than she wants to. Um, I don't like hearing about

491
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: my husband. She like, I don't hear about Denny. Is

492
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: she a good sport about it? Is? She like? But

493
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: she's also kind of like what like shes At some point,

494
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna watch it because she's just heard

495
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: about it so much and people it's it's the craziest

496
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: thing that I've done a lot of work, but this

497
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: show is it has an audience like no other, And

498
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where are we going the world. That

499
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: could be in Brazil and France wherever. Like people are

500
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: coming up and then saying Jake, Jake Elsie and she's

501
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: just never seen it. And I think one of these

502
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: days was just gonna cave and I watch it. Do

503
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: you have anywhere else here? I haven't seen it since

504
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: it aired. Oh yeah, you guys should watch it together

505
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: some distance from it too, So I think it's just

506
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: interesting to watch. That's why we started this podcast. Man.

507
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: We were like, why is it so special? And the

508
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: first episode we watched together, we were all bawling. By

509
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: the end. We were like, oh no, you've all working

510
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: on a bunch of stuff like why do you think

511
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: this show connects with an audience so much all these

512
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: years later, Because it's the thing that airs when you're

513
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: forming your identity. I think we all identify with things

514
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: we watched when we were teenagers or young adults, because

515
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: you're formulating your identity at the same time, these characters

516
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: are also being formulated, and there's a bond there, you know.

517
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't connect with characters now as a grown up.

518
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm like Nietz, you know. But that thing that you

519
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: watch when you're like malleable is important. I think there's

520
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: also something to it, you know. I think Joy you

521
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: might have been the first person who said this, Like

522
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: there was no fantasy, There was no like gimmick, No

523
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: one's a superhero, no one's a vampire, no one's awarewolf.

524
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: We all like those movies, but it was like kind

525
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: of the last best place to go to just see

526
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: groups of friends trying to figure out how to be

527
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: good humans, pre social media, pre iPhone, you know, like

528
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: just a group of kids trying to find their posts

529
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: in the world. And that's a universal truth. And so

530
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: I think despite having since yeah, and despite the premiered

531
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: so long ago, still ring so true when you tune

532
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: in and you watch, you go like, oh yeah, that

533
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: that's telling the truth to me. Well, I think it's interesting,

534
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: is you know, we're seeing a whole second generation discovering

535
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: it now. Like now it's like it's crazy how it's

536
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: got a whole other life. Yeah. I think it's like

537
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: ironic to them in the same way, you know what

538
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean, not really watching it like enthusiastically, they're like

539
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: just watching but it may have started that way, but

540
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: there's no denying that you fall in love with these characters.

541
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: So even if it's like, oh, this will be cool

542
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: and retro to watch, the fact is there's nothing like

543
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: it on television right now for teenagers. Everything is high

544
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: genre driven and to be able to give teenagers a

545
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: safe space. Might I have a little brother who's twenty,

546
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: and he texted me the other day, what were the nineties? Like,

547
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: what was it like in the late nineties? Wow? So

548
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: before so also life like before a cell phone, you know. Yeah,

549
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's cool that they're interest it in

550
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: that because it was a very different time. Yeah. Yeah.

551
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: Where would where would Jake Jakalski be right now? Babe? Like,

552
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: what's Jake? What what hasn't been up to the road,

553
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: do you think, well, because now, yeah, he's probably like

554
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: maybe he's um, maybe he's like what Verry was like.

555
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: He maybe he's like the new coach, like the new

556
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: the new gratchy coach, drinking real heavily. That's what he

557
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: wants to be too. So I would be really into

558
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: a sports team run by skills in Jake JASKI gotta

559
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: be honest good Yeah, yeah, I mean like rival rival

560
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: teams that were going at it that could be good.

561
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think. I have no idea,

562
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: like Jake could be or he could be you know,

563
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: Jack Dorsey. I mean he's like you don't he's so

564
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: he's so random. You know, he is so random because

565
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I completely forgot about the storyline down the road where

566
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: like Jake gets arrested and goes to jail. What guys,

567
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: it's coming. Was like pounding on the glass. You and

568
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: I had our hands up on the glass each other. Yeah,

569
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: it was what you say. It was all to protect Jenny. Yeah, okay, yeah, right.

570
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: You know you were mentioning that there's fans all over

571
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: the world of this show. No matter where you go,

572
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: people recognize you. Are there any specific fan encounters that

573
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: you remember that we're like either really meaningful or really

574
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: crazy or I don't know, what's just like, I mean,

575
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: it happens a lot with this show. Um as. I'm

576
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: sure you guys all know, but um, I mean I

577
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: was in Paris last year, by the way, it's huge

578
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: in France. Me. Yeah, more interested in front of um

579
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: I know. Um but like suddenly came up to me

580
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: and they're like like, oh, you play basketball And I'm

581
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: like what, And I'm like, yeah, I mean I have

582
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: in the past. I don't like yeah, but with Scott's

583
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what you know with the Scots, I

584
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I didn't know that. It was

585
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: like it had another name out there. It's like, yeah,

586
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: I had no idea what they were saying. So it

587
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: took a little while, but um, yeah, it's huge, it's crazy. Yeah,

588
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: what about you. I don't know what we got. We

589
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: got reminded today people were talking about being so excited

590
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: for this and they posted a bunch of photos from

591
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: the last convention that you and I and Hillary brab

592
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: Ban the One and Willing to Enjoy You were working,

593
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: so you remember you couldn't be there, but people were

594
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: posting those photos we all took together and and someone

595
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: posted the video of the girls who got engaged that

596
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: we helped with Hill the photo for a fan and

597
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing was a ruse and they were video

598
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: cameras going and her girlfriend set it up and we

599
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: literally were like holding her up when she almost fainted

600
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: from the surprise of being proposed. We were just like,

601
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: this is a very intimate special moment for us Mut's

602
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: pay pictures. People do they really feel like the show

603
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: is like these characters meet so much to them and

604
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: you guys, I went to go see Greenberg play in

605
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: Vancouver right after I left the show. So I left

606
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: the show. I went and I had a secret baby.

607
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: Gus was a year old. So One Tree Hill was

608
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: still on the air but we weren't on it, and

609
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Jeff was shooting a movie to Vancouver and Greenberg is like, hey,

610
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm in town right maybe I saw a flyer and

611
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: I was like, are you here? And so I went

612
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: to go see Greenberg and all the girls in the

613
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: audience are like on the baby with you know. I

614
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: had my Gus in like a Bjorn and people were

615
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: like it's baby, Jenny. No, but we did go to

616
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: lunch the next day and I brought my baby. And

617
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: it was so weird for you because you're, like, you

618
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: really have a baby, like we worked with the baby

619
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: you were young. I didn't have a baby until ten

620
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: twelve years after that, so that was blowing my mind.

621
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: I was just not in that that headspace. Yeah, well,

622
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: now you've got he's like a man, he's shaving up. Yeah, kids,

623
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: got a mustache. It's crazy. Is there anything that's been

624
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: really surprising for you about parenthood. I mean, I know

625
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: they're I know they're really little. Still, I guess what

626
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: I was surprised most by was, um, just how many

627
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: people in your life step up and like how people

628
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: say it takes a village, and I didn't really you

629
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: hear that, but I didn't really realize until we needed

630
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: the help, and so many of our friends and family

631
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: we have stepped up and gotten on planes and then

632
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: showed up and there. Because two at the same time

633
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: when you don't know what you're doing is intense. So

634
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just it's deep in my appreciation and

635
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: my love for my support system. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Yeah,

636
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: um all right, Well, you're directing a movie. Yeah, you're

637
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: dadding it up. Um, start that in May, I think, really,

638
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: all right, where are you guys going to shoot it?

639
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: Probably Rhode Island, Yeah, probably after two weeks prep. And

640
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: it's my first time directing. So it's the drama. It's

641
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: called Junction. Um, so it's gonna be an intense but

642
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: I love indies. It's gonna be an intense intense you

643
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: for like a month and a half and then yeah,

644
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: I'll be editing all summer. But I don't know. I've

645
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: been working. I just finished a really cool movie with

646
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: Jonah Hill and Eddie Murphy called You People. That's coming

647
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: out on Netflix. Casual. Yeah, there you go, special Drop.

648
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: We love him. He's so just easy and cool cool. Hey,

649
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: well I was chilling during COVID, so that came out

650
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: of nowhere. I was like, Okay, that's that's awesome. Um.

651
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: So it's nice that you deserve it. You deserve all

652
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: of it. You're so talented and so he worked with

653
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: such a constant professional and so fun And I'm just

654
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: so bad for all the success that comes your way,

655
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: and I don't want to I want to find something

656
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: else for all of us to work on together. Yes,

657
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say it. Everything is real sparkly

658
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: when we're together. Guys, make sure just make sure you

659
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: bring your guitar. You can leave it at my house, Brian,

660
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: no one about it. Got to start leaving stuff in

661
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: your house. Now. I'm just gonna leave this about whiskey. Yeah,

662
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: we Hey, will you come on the regular podcast in

663
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: season three when Jake and Peyton are in Savannah? So

664
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: how's it work with watching the episode we talk about it?

665
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm gonna make you sit down you're watching it? Yeah,

666
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: it's so good you would talk with you honestly, like,

667
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: I've missed your face. Man, I love all of you

668
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: so much. Really, congrats on the success of this and

669
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: your show, Sophia, I know you guys draw that's so

670
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: cool face. I love you. Um, alright, so we're gonna

671
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: see you soon. Then it's aty fantastic all right, tell

672
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: the family we said, Hibs, I love him so much?

673
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: Is that the quietest I've ever been during an interview?

674
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: I just sat like this. I think it was. I

675
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: think it was. Also, why is your lighting amazing? You're

676
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: like in a basement to find the best lighting no

677
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: matter where you go. I was gonna say that about yours.

678
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I look like I'm being interrogated by

679
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: the police. It's like, I'm so mad. Guys. We ordered

680
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: these cute me on, you know, trick lightning bolts, and

681
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: I was so excited to get off work in time

682
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: to do this that I ran out of the van.

683
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: And now sweet Doug, who drives me to work as

684
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: a lightning bolt in his van, it's supposed to be

685
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: right here. I can't do it. There goes What's cool

686
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: is seen throughout the course of like twenty three million

687
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: downloads and all the fan interactions, is seen them to

688
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: their drama queens rooms and like put their crowns out

689
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: and their lightning bolts out, and it kind of made

690
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: us a little bit like, you know, we had we

691
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: had a little bit of envy. We were like, well,

692
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: I want to pick me on, Like I want to

693
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: hear more of what the fans have to say, because

694
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: they've been been sending it a lot of questions and

695
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: comments and I can't wait to hear. Oh, we have

696
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: one already. Well, while we answer these, I'm gonna make

697
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: another drink. But item from set with each of us. Oh,

698
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: did we wish we took we took what item from set? Um?

699
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: From this set? You know, Sophia and I have spoken

700
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: at length about that red vintage couch that was in

701
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Karen's cafe. It was a really good It was a

702
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: curved couch in the corner front window. It's beautiful. Yeah,

703
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: I wish we had that. The cut out of the

704
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: toe the Wetsprocket song, what what what are you talking about?

705
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? What are you talking about?

706
00:42:54,920 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: Everything is better and everything is safe? That's what? Did

707
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: you think it was wrong? I know it was a

708
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: song I but I didn't think it was for that band.

709
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: Somebody told me this is the place everything's better and

710
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: everything's saying. Yeah, it's called walk on the Ocean. I

711
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: think you want not think they sang that because I

712
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: heard did you cover it? Who covered it? Because I

713
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: just felt like, I just feel like that's our song.

714
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: I wish I took that. Hillary, we have another question.

715
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: But tell us what you what would you have taken?

716
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: You know what? I'm mad I didn't take. In later seasons,

717
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: they got a really cool old black pickup truck for

718
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: Julian for my husband's character. Most of blue Gie taking

719
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: cars and taking it. I mean, I like you have

720
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: the comment and I want that truck. I'm mad about it.

721
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: Next question, Rebecca, Oh, this is sweet. If you had

722
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: a yearbook for yourself right now, what would your senior

723
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: quote be? I mean, apparently it would be from a

724
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: toad Weets Rocket song. Have we been saying that quote

725
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: and writing that quote? And I had zero idea, no idea,

726
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: no clue. Oh guys, okay, Um, my senior quote is

727
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean come to you? Okay. So here's the deal.

728
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: I was kind of told my senior year in high

729
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: school because I was just ready to get out of

730
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: Virginia and go to New York, and I had a

731
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a chip on my shoulder about certain

732
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: things in my small town. And I won the Senior

733
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: superlative most Dramatic, and my quote in like this little

734
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: senior like book it that comes out was if you

735
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: thought I liked you in high school, I was only acting.

736
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: And I cringed about that right now because it's so

737
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: bitchy and like so unwarranted, because I really hometown and

738
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: I really love all the kids I graduated with, and

739
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, why, So, what would your quote me, now

740
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: then if if this was your senior year, I'm sorry, sorry,

741
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: it's Simon Birch. I'm sorry. Yeah. Good. Of all the

742
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: houses on the show, such as Brooks, Felix Stands, all

743
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: the houses are big. Are those actual houses in Welmington's

744
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: and are they actually all that big? Well, Joy and

745
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: I lived on the opposite side of the tracks. Haley

746
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: and Brooke or Haley and Payton's house are actually right

747
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: next door to each other. Um, They're just across there,

748
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: like catty corner from each other. And we are actually

749
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: over by New Hanover High School, which is another I

750
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: want to say, it's another title one school. And so

751
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I liked that chapter one? Why am I thinking chapter one? Probably? Um?

752
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, so your house was for sure real? Yeah, yeah,

753
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: Brooke and Felix's house were next door to each other,

754
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: and they were definitely in like a fancy part of town.

755
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: They were big homes. And then where Dan's house was

756
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: was like the fancy, fancy, fancy fancy that was like

757
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: houses and guest houses and like big. I was not

758
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: accustomed to anything and seeing anything like that. So yeah,

759
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: this kind of small though, I mean, it wasn't like

760
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: they were like we had little pockets of every kind

761
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: of sort of socioeconomic experience. The one thing I don't

762
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: think we really ever showed though, I don't think we

763
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: ever had a family in an apartment, which feels weird

764
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: because so many families live in apartments. But I guess

765
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: maybe because Wilmington is such a house town, Like the

766
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: apartment started getting built there in the later years that

767
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: we were filming there weren't really even many apartment buildings

768
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: and college kids living there college it was college. Yeah,

769
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: I really like this next question, smart, This is a

770
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: good one. Well, when you guys had scenes on the phone,

771
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: were you actually dogging to someone mike Leone, mike leone

772
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: every time, Supervisor. I remember one call when I actually

773
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: I think we actually had James on the phone, or

774
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: it might have been. And there was another one when

775
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: we had Paul, I had Paul reading. We called Paul

776
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: and he read someone else's lines for me because it

777
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: was like an acting moment and I just needed some

778
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: real feedback. Yeah. I definitely feel most of the time

779
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: they'll just have yeah the script supervisor read for you,

780
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: which is super weird, especially because those people are usually

781
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: your friends, but not people on the show, and then

782
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: we started to do things like if we were at

783
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: work at the same time, if you you know, if

784
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: if Hailey had to call Brooke and I was like

785
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: in the parent makeup t I'd run in and do

786
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: the off camera. We we really started to do that

787
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: free truck. It's hard to act with like essentially like

788
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: your friend's dad pretending to be Peyton. Like it's weird.

789
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: So we we tried. But yeah, sometimes you've got somebody

790
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: being like, well, g Brooke and you're like stop it,

791
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: I can't you're doing this. Yeah, it's in What ways

792
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: do you think Sam is similar different than Brooke Davis?

793
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: Do you think they have any similar personality traits? Sam?

794
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: That's so sweet? Um, you know, I think they're both

795
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: really motivated women who aren't going to let anything in

796
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: the world hold them back from achieving in a really um,

797
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, competitive landscape and also in like a major way.

798
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: I think I think Sam is a little calmer, perhaps

799
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: a little more professional than Brooke Davis, but there's she's

800
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: feisty in there, like you don't wanna you don't want

801
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: to push her, So yeah, I don't know, maybe they

802
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: are somewhere. What did you guys, see when you came

803
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: to the set, well, listen, Brook Davis was always the boss, always, always,

804
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: always the boss, And we didn't really get to see

805
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: her go into her thirties, you know, and get like

806
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: closer to authority. We saw her in those years where

807
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: we all are kind of just testing the waters, and

808
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: so a self assured Brooke Davis is every bit as

809
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: calm and powerful as Sam. I think that's right. Brook was.

810
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: She was always the boss, but not everyone always saw it,

811
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: and she was trying. She was young and just kind

812
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: of scrappy in a way of like trying to constantly

813
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: prove it, and there was there's an elegance and a

814
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: settledness to Sam. I have sat here today. This is

815
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: what I want you guys. It's our fourth Surama Queen.

816
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so beautiful. Dr Lex truly has a

817
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: new look. It's actually well her part in the middle today.

818
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: But usually we have the exact same time, like you

819
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: too can beat the Sophia Rush and Strawberry Um. You guys,

820
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: we were really lucky when we came up to to

821
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: film Good Sam, because your cast was so so so

822
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: welcoming and oh my god, my cheerleading photo. Look at

823
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: our cheerleading knees, like all of us got right into formation.

824
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: I love the photo. It was like perfect thing. Wells

825
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: about your high school experience? Who were you in high school? Sky?

826
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny that you asked, because

827
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 1: I was literally just downstairs talking to Jason Isaac's about

828
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: my high school experience. And I went to high school

829
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: in to Lincoln Park High School in Chicago, and anyone

830
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: who knows Chicago knows that UM at that time in

831
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: Lincoln Park where Lincoln Part High School is. It was

832
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: right in the district of the kids of Lincoln Park,

833
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: very wealthy, very smart kid majority white, and Cabrini Green,

834
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: the roughest projects in Chicago. So that's where I really

835
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: learned how to like code switch because my sister was

836
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: very much attached to the Cabrini Green crowd, and I

837
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: was very much attached to the very smart like I

838
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: believe we're gonna go, We're gonna shoot to the sky,

839
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: like very ambitious and outgoing, and they were just more

840
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: into the things that I was into. But I had

841
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: to keep like kind of playing both sides, which is

842
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: quite interesting because that was something important to me that

843
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to do with Dr Lex truly. Yeah, you know,

844
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: because wow, I may be able to like be myself

845
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: with my friends, I still know like in America, it's

846
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Speaker 1: best to just switch over to mainstream and talk a

847
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Speaker 1: certain type of way so that the patient can trust

848
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Speaker 1: you with their life in your hands. So many people

849
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Speaker 1: are preconditioned to like only trust what they know and

850
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: like what they're comfortable with, and so if you come

851
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: with any kind of energy that's not familiar to them,

852
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is bad, this is wrong, this

853
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: is you know, uncomfortable. And so I love that your

854
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: character is shaking things up. I love that you have

855
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: this military background where you're like a beautiful homecoming queen cheerleader.

856
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: That's also like I'm really good with funds. Like yeah,

857
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam was my sugar daddy. He bought me all

858
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Speaker 1: my books in school. Sure I was into the military,

859
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: you know, Honestly, um my dad was a doc he

860
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: and my mom was a teacher, and I would hear

861
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: them talk about student debt all the time. And like

862
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: I share the story with Sophia, Like I thought Sally

863
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: May was a real like woman with like a very

864
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Speaker 1: beautiful silver silver locks and she made am She made

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Speaker 1: America Pies every weekend, just the sweet sweet Sally May

866
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: like the sweetest woman, and she just want to make

867
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Speaker 1: sure you got that education. So she gonna get but

868
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: she's gonna have to get that. Sally and I had

869
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: this this that was a very I had a very

870
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: vivid imagination as a kid. So I thought Sami. I

871
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: was like, honey, Sally May, I don't want any relationship

872
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: with saving. And she's sound sweet, but I don't want

873
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: her money. And and I just kind of grew up

874
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: not wanting to have that that umbrella of debt that

875
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: just forces these young kids to go straight into the

876
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: corporate world to pay off this this dad, when like,

877
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: how do we know who we want to be at

878
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years old? I didn't decide to act until

879
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: I was twenty nine, really, girl, and I did not

880
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: have a resident a uh formal training. I had life experience,

881
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: and that's what I took in the room. How would

882
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: you make preparate myself? You know, I was sitting in

883
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: a cubicle for two years in New York, a cubicle

884
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: that I worked so hard to get to. You know,

885
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have my Cary brash all

886
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: life and just like make this money and wear cool

887
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: shoes and hang out with Wall Street models and like

888
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: that was just gonna be the life. And it wasn't

889
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: the life, but it was like totally opposite ends of

890
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: the spectrum. It was like I was partying hard and

891
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: then back in this just very sterile, neutral cubicle world

892
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: that was just sucking the life out of me. But

893
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: what I noticed is they would always send me in

894
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: two boardrooms to close the deals because I would go

895
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: in there because it was a pharmaceutical market, this woman

896
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: doing any kind of I would go in there. I'd

897
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: be like, so we drugs and wood and these are

898
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: like a bunch of like birds and you know, so

899
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: like I was just going there and make it fun

900
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: and like yeah, So they would always in the end,

901
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: but I was like I'm performing, like I'm getting yes

902
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: and yeah. And and then after that, everyone just kept

903
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: saying to me like are you you never thought about acting?

904
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: Like you've never you never, And I'm like, I mean,

905
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: of course I've thought about it. I was in dance place,

906
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, I was always in dance theater

907
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, and recitals like I was

908
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: never afraid of the stage and another version of me

909
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: would show up. Um, I knew the who am I?

910
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: Based off of where I am and who I'm talking to?

911
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: Like the who am I with you ladies isn't the

912
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: who am I with my mom? Or the who am

913
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: I a cop pulls me over? Or the who am

914
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: I in the courtroom or at the club? Right? So

915
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: I learned that very early on on. How can it

916
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: serve for me? Because at the age of seventeen, I've

917
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: had to figure everything out in my life because while

918
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: I may have said my dad as a doctor, my

919
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: mom's teacher, she hit the fan when I was twelve,

920
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: So like, I had to really learn how to figure out, Okay,

921
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: how can I how can I not fall into the

922
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: whole in the wrap of being somebody's baby mama and

923
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: doing nails in Chicago, which was like what I was

924
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: surrounded by. So when I went to the military, that's

925
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: where it really helped because it taught me how to

926
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: process and utilize fear. And then the corporate world taught

927
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: me how to market, so I was able to market myself.

928
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: I didn't have an agent when I got go Sam.

929
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: I haven't had an agent and said, since you, she

930
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: goes do yeah, I message, I miss. It's just amazing.

931
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: We're getting ready to wrap, so we can send people

932
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: to watch whatever. You know. But I want to know

933
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: when you were growing up, who were the drama queens

934
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: that you looked up to? Who were your drama queen? Here,

935
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: Rapid Fire, let's go, Lisa Turtle and Shannon Aerty On Nanatino.

936
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: That was that was my dam I was a to

937
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: those and I record every episode and because in tapes,

938
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: and then my ends and neighborhood would come over and

939
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 1: they would rent episodes and I hadn't had a numbered

940
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: from season and season and I were rented out like

941
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: Black Buster. I had a library and it was business

942
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: and I was making money off and I was amazing.

943
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: You guys can go. Everybody out there, you guys can come.

944
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: Let's come watch these amazing women as these incredible doctors

945
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: come on. And it was so special. I loved working

946
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: with you Sky and uh, we're gonna party in New York. Yeah,

947
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, were you coming to be with the two

948
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 1: of us? Was so cool? And I remember when you left,

949
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: she was like, that's what we're doing, like building these

950
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: families and I'm so excited for everyone. Two minutes guys too,

951
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: Good Sam episode eight of season one with these two

952
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 1: gorgeous ladies and us and my cast that's downstairs right here. Yeah, okay, listen.

953
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: The cast was so so cool. Sophia knew what a

954
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: huge crush I had on j and Isaac's geeked out

955
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: so quick already knows Sky I get you out so hard.

956
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: They took a picture and guy, um no, honestly, please

957
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: give all of them great, big, huge hugs for us

958
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: because it was so nice to be welcomed into your family.

959
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: And we're so excited to, you know, send all our

960
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: drama queens fans over to hang out on the on

961
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: the medical set of Good Sam. You guys are change

962
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: in the world. I can't wait for you all to

963
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: see the episode. I think we have. Who did this

964
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: little treat come from? Which one of you took this?

965
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: We filmed it? I don't remember you filmed. This is

966
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: our favorite moment from being on set and I love you.

967
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: Thank you for having us you, thank you, thanks for

968
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: joining us, everybody, Thanks for joining us. Everybody. We have

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00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: a little sign off for you, and we'll see you

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00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: at CBS in one minute. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't

971
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: forget to leave us a review. You can also follow

972
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Drama Queens O t H or

973
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: email us at Drama Queens at I heart radio dot com.

974
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: See you next time. We are all about that high

975
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: school drama. Girl Drama Girl, all about them high school queens.

976
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: We'll take you for a ride at our comic girl

977
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: cheering for the right Drama Queens go up, girl fashion,

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Speaker 1: but you'll tough go. You could sit with us Girl

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Speaker 1: Drama Queens, Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, John mc Queen's

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Speaker 1: Drama Queens listenbau. Um. I know I normally jumped in

981
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: every so often to make a pep talks in the

982
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: morning to thank you guys for being the most stellar crew,

983
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: and like most tremendous background players that you know, I

984
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: get to go rag about outside of here. Um. I

985
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: know I've never cried what I've done one of these before.

986
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Speaker 1: But the reason I'm so emotional isn't it. My two

987
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: best friends came employed with us. This we and these

988
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: girls and I grew up together. We started on our

989
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: first show over twenty one We literally have been to

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Speaker 1: hound and back. They are my family, your family, and

991
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: you welcome them with open arms. And it's been yeah,