WEBVTT - Friends of Gadsden Creek

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to waiting on reparations of production of

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio. What's happened? What's happening? Yeah, it's dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Knife in the house. That was a nice little that

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<v Speaker 1>was a little departure from what we usually do. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're happy and we're seeing it in we're colored.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me yeah, yeah, what's going on the knife? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is? You know what it is? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? Um? Like like I been swept

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<v Speaker 1>through I don't know, like the tumble tumbleweed, Like they're

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<v Speaker 1>rolling rolling across the country inside of a tumbleweed. Somewhat happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still on the road, right, I'm on the road. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I made it to New Orleans, got my last show

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<v Speaker 1>of the tour tonight, and then um, get back to

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<v Speaker 1>my adorable baby. I'm never doing this again. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>much just dumb. It sounds like you're It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a more comfortable place to record to today

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<v Speaker 1>because last time, last time, it sounded like you were

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<v Speaker 1>in a prison cap You're trying to be quiet about

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<v Speaker 1>the guards and ship like, yeah, that was my last

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<v Speaker 1>transmission before I was never again. We have to fight

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<v Speaker 1>for reparations. Oh no, they're coming in. Yeah, what's good

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<v Speaker 1>with you? I'm good. I have some North Carolina shows

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. Um, I had a St. Patty's Day

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<v Speaker 1>show here in Savannah. It was cool. It's cool. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice little weekend of performing and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to gear back up into it because I

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<v Speaker 1>just made the announcement yesterday that I'm actually doing like

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, pretty much like a full like five

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<v Speaker 1>six days or something like that in April. So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that's what it is. Yeah, I was saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm shoot you out here, out here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up soon. So I gotta start getting mentally

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for that grind. And she's like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you just go do these little weekend runs,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even really like a thing like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't even like a like, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if I can do that anymore. I mean, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been gone for like nine days now, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like like, but I mean you can

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<v Speaker 1>work out like some sort of thing where you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that like every few months, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much what everybody else does anyway. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like, but so we got showed together

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<v Speaker 1>in Savanna in April or but I'm trying to and

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<v Speaker 1>like I got a little or something sometimes soon I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm misquoted, but like I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at my but see this is what I always do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, I can do little weekends herever there,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I booked like two whole months of weekends

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<v Speaker 1>on accident my life. We're doing that Savannah show, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's thet We're doing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to do that. So what's hilariously that is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be down there for the the Conference of Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>County Commissioners that they once a year, the annual conference

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<v Speaker 1>they have her County Inmstrs of Georgia today have it

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<v Speaker 1>everything in Savannah? Is that what was going on last

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<v Speaker 1>time that we didn't appreciate the last time I planted

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<v Speaker 1>show in Savannah, I was down here from this conference,

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<v Speaker 1>is the mayor of Bathan's gonna pop in on us

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<v Speaker 1>night popping? He might pop in, yes he might. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you got some new commissioners on board might have them

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<v Speaker 1>roll up that's they can see the whole show bang,

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<v Speaker 1>then they can see him. No joke, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>a real time job. Vii is, This is not a hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>So we gotta So we got a dope show for

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<v Speaker 1>you today. We're gonna be talking with streamer and activists

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<v Speaker 1>Mika Gadson. I even feel weird describing her as just

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<v Speaker 1>that she does like I almost want to call historian too,

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<v Speaker 1>like she knows about She's got all the receipts um

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<v Speaker 1>environmental justice like like can like intersections in her work

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<v Speaker 1>are just fascinating. So yeah, we got a lot um

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of love for me because came on. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to her in a little bit. Again. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into that, we got to talk about our

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<v Speaker 1>least favorite but most discussed subject just because he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the news. But we gotta gota we might have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Kanye West. Oh god, really, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>know when somebody came up to me the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>like someone who is like a genuine fan of the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, Kanya does a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you guys have to talk about her. But

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so what's going on Kanye is just he's

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<v Speaker 1>divorced with with Kim Kardashian, YadA YadA, beef in with

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people. Because of the situation, he's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much stocking her like online and public lea and ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But so some comedians have waited on this. Trevor Noah waited,

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<v Speaker 1>d L. Hughley has waited, and pretty much all of

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<v Speaker 1>them saying of him, saying pretty much reasonable things like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is stalking. If this dude wasn't a millionaire, billionaire,

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<v Speaker 1>musical genius whatever y'all call them, cops would probably be involved,

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<v Speaker 1>This could lead to abuse whatever whatever you know. Making

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<v Speaker 1>commentary on that won't leave her alone, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>beefing with her her new boyfriend, Pete Davison, their exchange

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<v Speaker 1>of text messages. It's all really messy. It's all very

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<v Speaker 1>Jury Springer's funny, right. But in response to D. L. Hughley,

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<v Speaker 1>so he says, this is all one sentence to it's

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't doesn't break. So okay, let we start again.

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<v Speaker 1>We go stop letting practicing drug addicts be used by

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<v Speaker 1>leftists to Willie Lynch our future. Black people with our

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<v Speaker 1>own opinion are not allowed to speak in public. I

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<v Speaker 1>am the glitch d L. God does not like you,

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<v Speaker 1>You have no favor. Your family hates you. I would

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<v Speaker 1>hate to be related to someone who used to be famous.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're just known as a broke pond. At least

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<v Speaker 1>Oprah got billions quote allegedly, come on, leftist, y'all gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do better than d L. This. Yeah, bring the real smoke, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>show your real face. Charmonne with Charlemagne the guy. Just

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<v Speaker 1>don't hit the same way, do he? Who you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to send? Now? God is with us? You send d

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<v Speaker 1>L against us. You've lost. No brilliant Hebrews will bow

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<v Speaker 1>to y'all no more. Only dumbass, drug addicted house niggers.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't play with me, don't play with God. Anybody related

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<v Speaker 1>to d L called Chris like a bunch of Kanye

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<v Speaker 1>rambling stuff. But the thing that stuck out to me

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<v Speaker 1>was his use of the term leftists. And I noticed

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm punching myself in the face. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you can hear that. I just wanted to transcribe,

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<v Speaker 1>since this is an audio show, that I am myself

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<v Speaker 1>in the face right now. Okay, come on, please, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the expected preachers are obviously all out there now here,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them are coming out and they're like, yes, Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>tell those leftists, tell those that the like I would,

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<v Speaker 1>I would dare him to like like define what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's applying too much rationality to it, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>because like for me, it's not even necessarily paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to Kanye, but looking at the right wings reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>him in this situation. And now, like I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye he wore the MAGA hat, who visited with Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>he did all that stuff. But really, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about this situation, it's like they're finding solidarity solidarity with

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<v Speaker 1>this dude at this particular moment on the basis that

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<v Speaker 1>he's harassing his wife, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that is that's the leftist attack. The leftist attack is, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't like harass your wife and threatened to like kill

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<v Speaker 1>people online, which is why he got he got a

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<v Speaker 1>booted from the Grammys. He was supposed to perform and

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<v Speaker 1>they booted him because of he like he's making like

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<v Speaker 1>threats to d L and Trevor like I've got I

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<v Speaker 1>have enough money to get you hurt. I know where

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<v Speaker 1>you live like ship like that. Right, So they they

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<v Speaker 1>kicked them off the Grammys and that is now the

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<v Speaker 1>right wings they're canceling Kanye. Yeah, just just a further

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate that this canceling woke, cancel culture ship that they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. It's like, really, it's rooted in are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be a decent person or not? Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to be a decent person, then that's well

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<v Speaker 1>that's bad, that's cancel culture. This really is reminiscent to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was learning yesterday that UM Josh Holly um LAEF

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<v Speaker 1>senator from Missouri. Is that correct? Um, it's endorsed herschel

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<v Speaker 1>Walker for Georgia Senate. UM. If you're not familiar, former

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<v Speaker 1>UM Georgia football player, very famous, UM some have some problems,

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<v Speaker 1>might have like beat the ship out of several women,

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<v Speaker 1>including his ex wife allegedly, and so, UM, so Holly's

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<v Speaker 1>out here talking about how this like democratic candidate for UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually let me, I think Nicki Haley came down to

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia to campaign and raise some money with herschel Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>That is Nicki Halleys. She was governor of South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>CUM she was UM. I think Ambassador to the U

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<v Speaker 1>n But I mean before that, okay, I don't Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't even pressed. So Josh Holly, what did he

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<v Speaker 1>do besides accused the Supreme Court nominee of supporting pedophilia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Holly, They're like, look, man, the Republicans are now

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<v Speaker 1>in this new thing where the same way that Putin

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<v Speaker 1>is thrown around Nazi to justify or now the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>are just like blanketly calling everybody a pedophile, like just everything,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody for everything? Oh, is it like a Q and

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<v Speaker 1>on kind of thing, Like, well, not really see what

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying. So she had ah there was a case

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<v Speaker 1>or something that she was hearing where someone was making

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<v Speaker 1>an argument against like a mandatory sentencing for people who

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<v Speaker 1>I guess indulge in child pornography. And the person who

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<v Speaker 1>was arguing this was making the case that not everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's involved in it is involved in it for that reason,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's like a bunch of factors that go in.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were explaining this this reasoning to her for

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<v Speaker 1>the sentencing, and she was hearing their reasoning and was

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<v Speaker 1>asking them questions. So they've like sniffed out the questions

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<v Speaker 1>that she was asking to say that this is what

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<v Speaker 1>she was supporting, that she has a history of doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really ugly stuff, Like really it's like pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>demagoguery as close to it as you can get. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bad ship. But that that that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be their new tactics. Just like at every level from

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<v Speaker 1>online Twitter discourse to now even politicians are just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want this person to be nominated. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>float out there uncircumstanced, circumstance, circumstantiator accusations. But I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>what we're saying about a drop. So there's a Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>running for something in Missouri I forgot about. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>got some he's got some like the Salt allegations against him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, if you if you beat your if

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<v Speaker 1>you put your hands on a woman, you should be

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<v Speaker 1>in handcuffs, not the Senate or you know whatever. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>he's endorsed herschel Walker though, who like long history of

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<v Speaker 1>allegations of being shifted out of women. And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like literally like they go they're like go to like

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<v Speaker 1>the bargain bin. Black people just like, oh, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you have? What do you have black Oh you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have Oh we're fresh out of uggar everestus. Oh we

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<v Speaker 1>ain't got no top knives. Uh. Well, I can't leave

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<v Speaker 1>empty handed because we look at real we look in

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<v Speaker 1>real sparks. If I don't, if I don't come home

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<v Speaker 1>with something, um. But actually I would say that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>can we go back and talk about how we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the Hebrew? Yeah? I mean what does that? Even

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<v Speaker 1>the whole the whole thing is not sensible? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you know what does this talking about? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I learned recently. So when I was at south By Southwest,

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<v Speaker 1>I encountered a group of like street preachers that were

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<v Speaker 1>these black dudes with like big old beards, wearing like

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<v Speaker 1>punk rocks, like studded jackets with like um stars of

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<v Speaker 1>David on it, who were claiming to be of the

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<v Speaker 1>Temple of the Israelites and um, talking about how they're

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<v Speaker 1>like like black people are the real Jews. Did anybody

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<v Speaker 1>body photography altogether? I hope no I photographed them. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what the fucking my witnessing right now? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do not know what's going on, and like for

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<v Speaker 1>higher office, that picture is gonna come up with you

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<v Speaker 1>with them, like frank down, Like, what am I witnessing

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<v Speaker 1>right now? How I know that? Um no? So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that I was I was been learning about

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<v Speaker 1>how like in the A d O L like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't call you know, I don't know if you call

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<v Speaker 1>it a movement or like circles kind of hope happy

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<v Speaker 1>as like spiritual black people that are like, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know kind of yeah, anyway, we'll get into a halt.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to do a whole episode in a DUS

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, but I didn't I didn't know. Apparently this

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<v Speaker 1>is really a thing where um like sounds kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like people think that black people are the real Jews

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<v Speaker 1>and like the real children of Gotten the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Juts are something like I don't know, well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Ethiopian Jews or Black I'm not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not too familiar with the history in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like who was first or who wasn't. But back to

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<v Speaker 1>this Kanye thing, it definitely sounds like he is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to perfect like a merger of Hotep sentiment, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sentiment with like full on modern day right wing that

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<v Speaker 1>shittery and it's just, you know, it's curious curious because

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<v Speaker 1>like now if you're you know, you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting some discourse with these fan groups and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know if you're like, oh man, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like track number three on Beyonce's last album, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you find yourself like taking it from all sides and

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<v Speaker 1>ship like that. Well, this Kanye discourse just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like creeping through some comments sections and ship like that,

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<v Speaker 1>a little little line between like some of these Kanye

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<v Speaker 1>fans and like a full on magal lunatic is starting

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<v Speaker 1>to get raise it at this point, raise it bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an elected politician, so if you were, if

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<v Speaker 1>you if um, I came back to you of ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and it's in a little time uh time machine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like a time caps hope that's not right,

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<v Speaker 1>um spaceship still wrong of time machine and told you

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<v Speaker 1>any years now Kanye West is going to I believe

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<v Speaker 1>he is um uh last by uh um it's leftist,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he's threatening to murder d l Hughley and

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<v Speaker 1>um also slid slavery is fine. You know what a reason?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you think? Would you? Um call for help?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you asked me that because you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna have to do an episode someday of

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<v Speaker 1>like criticizing hip hop from the left, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. But I I wouldn't if you told me that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised personally, you know, not, not like

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<v Speaker 1>I have any sort of like one up on anybody

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<v Speaker 1>on knowledge or anything like that. But when I started

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<v Speaker 1>becoming just in my own mind, when I started becoming

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<v Speaker 1>more politically aware, like around you know, like post nine eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand three ish, two thousand two ish, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of errors, when I started having my own political weight

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<v Speaker 1>ging and developing my own political world view and ship

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Being that was around the time when I

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<v Speaker 1>first started like getting into wrapped and being a rapper,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was noticing, wait a minute, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of right wing ship in this hip hop day

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's kind of just going around undetected that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not even like paying attention to because of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, like for for some reason, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got like this blind spot that it's like, yo, if

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<v Speaker 1>Kid Rock was saying this, we would all clearly see

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, you know what I mean. So there

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<v Speaker 1>were just aspects of in particular Kanye West personality as

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<v Speaker 1>a public figure and as an m C. Just to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, where I was like, Oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>beat is dope, but this got something I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I really I don't know if I'm working with

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<v Speaker 1>this dude like that, you know. I mean that's just

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<v Speaker 1>me personally. So as time goes on, it's like one

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<v Speaker 1>way you could interpret it is be like, oh he's

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<v Speaker 1>a diva, or oh he's an asshole or a damn

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye is a real jerk, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're like one of those people who looks

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<v Speaker 1>at things through a political lens, it's like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was this thing was the right winger, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Yeah, I mean like ten years ago

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<v Speaker 1>is when like my Beautiful, Dark Twisted Fantasy dropped and

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<v Speaker 1>even then he was like I had a reputation as

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<v Speaker 1>an asshole, even had that song Are you remind me

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<v Speaker 1>of it? When he said that this one's an asshole,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like and like there's that moment of redemption,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, maybe Kanye is okay. Like I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're like, I'm ship, Like I love Kanye a

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<v Speaker 1>getting all right, Yeah, maybe you have to go back

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<v Speaker 1>farther than that butt. When people tell you who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>believe them. And we have kept this intro going way

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<v Speaker 1>too motherfucking log, so you wanted to real quickly there

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<v Speaker 1>was some uhmies want to shout it out before me

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<v Speaker 1>moving to oh, yes, you're right, you're right, you're right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>before you forget abou yo, I smoked my ball before

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<v Speaker 1>we started my memory or short term memories going all right, yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to mention, you know, because we're in

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<v Speaker 1>this uh current news cycle where everybody is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and the situation there is definitely terrible and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people are dying, the Russians are bombing cities, uh indiscriminately

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<v Speaker 1>killing kids and stuff like that. But I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to take it as the resident African on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>just to remind people that there are currently like wild

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<v Speaker 1>coup's going on in Africa and refuge and refugee crisis

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<v Speaker 1>is of their own. Um. I think Burkina Faso just

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<v Speaker 1>had a military takeover. There was a failed one in

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<v Speaker 1>Guinea Basu, so I mean, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's other there's other places where there's tensions on the

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<v Speaker 1>rise and stuff like that. So it's not even like

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, it's like I am not surprised that white

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<v Speaker 1>Western media is focusing on their white Western ship, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But for people who aren't like

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel visions into that, you know what I'm saying, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you should, you know, go and and and read about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other things that are going on over

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<v Speaker 1>the world because this Ukraine ship, as bad as it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to take up twenty four hour news

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<v Speaker 1>coverage at least for like the next year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half maybe two years, so you guys probably won't be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about much else. And I appreciate you framing it

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<v Speaker 1>that way because we either see like leftists making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of like libs about like how you don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>war when it's when it's brown people, and like libs

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<v Speaker 1>being like not, you know not now, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>why you gotta distract from like those issues those issues

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<v Speaker 1>are about too, But we're focused on Ukraine right now,

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<v Speaker 1>like rather than people just having a genuine dialogue about this,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of folks that have a more robust antipe war

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<v Speaker 1>stands where they are pretension you know, paying attention to

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<v Speaker 1>conflicts internet, like genuinely international, not general international, more like

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<v Speaker 1>a more broad of international conflicts. Can comment on that,

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<v Speaker 1>not just when the war is on white people, right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe read up on this, Maybe find out about this

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<v Speaker 1>rather than like poking fun at folks for not having known,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not I don't think it's just like the

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<v Speaker 1>regular average person's fault that they don't know about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the meaning and then tell you on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, on top of that with like

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<v Speaker 1>some of these leftists who say ship like that, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like nigga, I don't never hear you talking about ship

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that's going on until so, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this opportunity to kind of be your point,

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<v Speaker 1>but also why you have be like that, Like just

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<v Speaker 1>the point, the point is valid. I'm not hating on

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<v Speaker 1>the point, but it's just like you gotta you yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>have to be consistent, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm watching your ship, if I'm listening to you

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<v Speaker 1>and you're somebody that I listened to on the regular,

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<v Speaker 1>and you weren't talking about fucking Brakino Fasso, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Two months ago when the ship went down.

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<v Speaker 1>Then don't be like, why are you talking about Ukraine?

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Their stuff going on, and you know I don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that now, like yeah, everybody shows some humility, like

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, I just found out about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to raise some awareness about it. Oh thank

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<v Speaker 1>you French kidding me about that, rather than just like

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<v Speaker 1>being so stubborn about like I'm right, you're wrong. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>right about this thing. I found out about two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago about it. Today, I'll find links down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>But there there are you know, there's there's YouTube channels

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<v Speaker 1>that cover African news and African politics and African occurrences,

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<v Speaker 1>tons of them. I mean there's fifty four fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>countries in Africa, so you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's people who are covering these things that you

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<v Speaker 1>can find if you look for it. I'm just saying again,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not surprised that these things don't get covered

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<v Speaker 1>by people who don't have an you know, feel that

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily have an interest in it. I do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just just spreading that out there for people who

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<v Speaker 1>also think that they might that there's a lot, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of problems in the world, so many problems

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, so many Well, let's take a break

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<v Speaker 1>in and get into this interview with me. Guy, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it, all right, We'll be right back after the job. Alright, alright, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So today we are here with Mika Gaston. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know you wear so many hats, like like you

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<v Speaker 1>are Charleston. To me, I'm like, oh you mean you

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<v Speaker 1>mean Mika City, you know, like her queendom. I will

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<v Speaker 1>let you intro yourself for all our listeners this week,

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<v Speaker 1>are no problem and thank you first and foremost. Talking

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<v Speaker 1>about wearing many hats. Uh, you do it all yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm Mika Gadston. I'm based here in Charleston,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. Um. I am the daughter of Jim Crow

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<v Speaker 1>refugees so are relocated to Charleston probably about eight years

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<v Speaker 1>or so ago. Um. But uh yeah, I'm a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an activist, I'm an organizer, I'm a gad fly. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I pissed people off. I interrogate power and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I create and I'm a Twitch streamer and podcasters.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's me. But only she out here in these streets.

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<v Speaker 1>She out here on these um she out here on

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<v Speaker 1>these streams. Oh you can tell who's who's the real

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:22.959
<v Speaker 1>wrapper around here, real bars. Yeah. So, UM, we had

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<v Speaker 1>the pleasure recently kind of speaking about the intersections between

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<v Speaker 1>some of the projects we're working on. I spoke a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about my work with Lennontown here in Athens,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a somewhat overlapping UM project that you are

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<v Speaker 1>working on in Charleston called the Friends with Patson Creek. Correct. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk to us a little bit about that. Yeah, absolutely, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, UM, I'll talk to you about this. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, just like so many other towns, not just

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<v Speaker 1>specifically Southern cities, UM, Charleston has this long, the storied

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<v Speaker 1>history UM of taking taking land, UM, taking agency or

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to remove agency. UM. And they do it through

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<v Speaker 1>a myriad of ways. You know, all oppression is linked,

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<v Speaker 1>but specifically in Charleston. I mean, if they didn't create

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<v Speaker 1>the pattern for Hayless, dump into your backyard and then

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<v Speaker 1>take your land and then you know, enter you into

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<v Speaker 1>a cycle of poverty for generations, I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that they want to earn that distinction,

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<v Speaker 1>but Charleston has perfected this what my friend calls my

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<v Speaker 1>my brother in this struggle, Cyrus Buffon calls a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>of taking and um, yeah, the friends of Gas and Creek.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're trying to do is we leverage the archive,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and trying to highlight this pattern. But now more recently,

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<v Speaker 1>since we've partnered with you know, the South Caroline Environmental

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<v Speaker 1>Law Law a law group scalp UM, we we're now

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<v Speaker 1>taking it to the courts and so, um, we're taking

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<v Speaker 1>on one of the biggest developers here in Charleston that

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually just another outgrowth of previous effort to take land,

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<v Speaker 1>to take home ownership, to take the ability to build

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<v Speaker 1>equity from black Charlestonians. And so we're currently engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>this fight where we're taking them up. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they are a formidable foe, but we are mighty and

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<v Speaker 1>we are persistent, and uh, I'm encouraged by our fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to we want to, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>we want to explain to people this pattern. And I

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>think also really quickly for talking back, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>show black folks that environmental justice issues or environmental injustice

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<v Speaker 1>is a black liberation issue. And and that's one thing

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that we're all we're poised to do as well in

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>this fight. Um. So just for our listeners, say, when

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>you say that Charleston has like a long history of again,

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>could you give like an example so those who don't know, Yeah,

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>so uh in the late nineteen thirties, specifically, I'm gonna

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 1>keep you over here with friends of gas and Creek

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 1>because what's done here on the peninsula. If you look

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>at a map of all staid, it's not just the

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>tourism district or the tourism tourism region that resembles a

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>thumb um, but that the thumb is the peninsula. But

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that's where we're gonna stay, I think for the majority

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 1>of this of this conversation. And so back in the

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties, there was a tornado that ripped through Charleston Um,

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>the affluent area, as well as Um, an area of

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of Charleston called Gads and Green also informally called back

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the Green Um. If you know anything about Charleston, you'll

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>learn about the Gala Gichi language and and so that

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>probably was where that name emerged from Back to Green

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>so Um as the tornadoes ripped through Back to Green

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Um the affluent side of Charleston was allowed to rebuild

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and to you know, um, you know, rebuild that the

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>tourism and buildings, instructures and in residences. Whereas the black neighborhood,

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 1>and this was a black neighborhood that actually held the

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>most upwardly mobile, economically independent black people. These were teachers,

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>these were fishermen, These were people who um, you know,

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>sold livestock. Um. They lived off of a creek called

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the Gadsden Creek right up against back the green or

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>gads In Green. And so as this this tornado comes through,

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>it's disaster capitalism one on one. This was the time

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>where the previous mayors always eyed this part of Charleston

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 1>because you know, they wanted to create I guess they

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to they wanted to create more real estate, but

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.479
<v Speaker 1>they also wanted to have more taxable land. Um. And

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 1>so they started to um. Instead of black folk allowing

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>them to rebuild their homes, they literally said no, we're

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 1>going to build a housing project, um, and you're not

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>going and they called it a slum. It was a

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>slum clearance. All those words that we know are very

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>problematical phrases rather that are very problematic um uh and

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>so you know, after this community over forty families, not

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>forty people, forty families mobilized and organized to not only

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>raise the money through th years, um you know, carnivals. Uh,

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>they also wrote this, this this amazing letter to the

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>mayor at that time, Mayor Lockwood, saying hey, no, no,

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>we're we're we got this. We're gonna raise money, We're gonna,

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna pull ourselves up our boot traps all just

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>to get like a one paragraph response from the mayor saying, nah,

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna, we're gonna build this housing project and that.

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 1>So they took black folks ability to rebuild their homes.

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>But also what they did they started to dump that

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>thumb I told you about, Well the thumb wasn't as

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>fat as it is now. So what they started to

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 1>do specifically on this area, and they did it in

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>other areas as well. They started to dump and and

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>fill in the marshaland the tidal creek area. This is

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a creek again that folks were baptized in that they

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>earned a living from or shoot, they just fed their

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>families from it. If you wanted to have crab or shrimp,

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you would just throw out whatever bait out the window. Literally,

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.719
<v Speaker 1>we've heard this from you know, the great the grand

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>kids or whatever relatives of folks who remember the memories

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of sitting out a line to to to crab ab Um.

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>So people lived off this creek and they had they

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>earned a living off this creek. So they began the

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>city began to dump into the Marshaland area, and um,

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that caused all kinds of problems as you would imagine,

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and from else to rodents um and also flooding, and

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're contending with now. So um. You know,

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>when you talk about taking, they didn't just take land.

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>They took natural resources from black folk over time. It's

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>interesting that it kind of comes in at both sides

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>for both kind of addressing this side in which like

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>weather disasters and natural phenomena, you know, what happens from

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>those impact black people. You know, it was very reminiscent

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm in New Orleans right now, and so

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it's making me think of females response after the Hurricane Katrina,

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>right um. And so then sort of forecasting forward to

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like what this can mean for our environmental justice struggle

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>going forward if we don't get climate change under control.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>We already got the we got the seats for what

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>they do when this happened to our communities on the

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>other side, like like h form of like racial terrorism,

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>people don't think about when you mess with somebody's natural

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>resources and like the land and the waters from which

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>they draw life. And so you got that time too

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>linked in with this like narrative running throughout all of

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>our histories, um as black people of just like theft

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and then some more theft and look, oh you know,

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just doing a little bit more of that. Let

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>me just have that and have that. You're using that?

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh you are, you're using it? No, no, no, you're

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>not using that. I'm gonna have that, thank you. Um So,

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>what so what does this mean for you all today?

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>With regards to demands You're continuing to raise your local

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>government in other ways, you're elevating this issue, you know,

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>not unlike so many people. Uh probably not unlike some

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of the work you're you're involved with, Mariah um uh

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and not unlike the homies in New Orleans. Shout out

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to Pichon Battle and scrape. Request is just two people

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>who I've worked are done some projects centering some of

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>their work over the last couple of years. UM. You

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>know what it means is that we have to again

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>educate folks on the history. Let folks know that you

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>know those memories that your grandma, your auntie, your uncle's

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of told you about, those those you know, these

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>are real people. So like reanimating some of those figures

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>from the past so that people can make a connection

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to it. And we've done that. I think we've done

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.479
<v Speaker 1>that well, not just alone but with other partners that

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>we've collaborated with. UM. So we've told the story by

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>leveraging the public archive again something I had learned from

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>my my brother and this cyrus buffum um. And and

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>so once we we told the story, and then we

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>we go up against the powers that be. We make this, um,

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>we make this amazing case. And y'all get this, get this.

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.959
<v Speaker 1>This was What really gets me is that we've got engineers,

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>We've got um we've got scientists, we've got people who

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>run the local aquarium, we've got all types of educators. Uh,

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it runs the gamut. And not to say

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the credentials mean everything, but we've got all these credential

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>folks saying, hey, don't feel this creek anymore, because that's

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>what we're fighting currently. We're fighting the feeling of the

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>remaining four acres of of of title Wetlands is still

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>an operational title creek there that they have yet to

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>fill to build luxury condominiums and whatnot. And so, um,

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>we we made this compelling case. Public outcry has been

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>on our side. The majority of people who who gave

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>public comment at hearings, Um, they've been on our side.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And not only that, the kicker was our mayor took

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>his took his raggedy self over to Amsterdam because you know,

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the Dutch know how to live with water, right, that's

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that's you know. I've been over their shout out and

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it was great. Um, So they went over there for

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing called the Dutch Dialogues, came back and continued

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>this Dutch Dialogues like series here where they performed caring,

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>they performed listening to what the Dutch said. The Dutch

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>on top of all of our friends who are experts

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and engineers. The Dutch said, yeah, don't feel the creek.

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Revitalize it, um, restores title functions so it can drain

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that flooding that was caused by you know, decades and

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>deck age of filling and dumping um. But nonetheless you

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>know the interests, the powers that be, the mayor um

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and who is a developer who was into commercial real

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>estate before he took office, and he took over for

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Mayor Riley, who a lot of people like to put

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>up on high esteem after mother Manu. But Mayor Riley

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>was an ambitious developer. For forty years, forty years we

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>had run mayor forty hyper tenure, like on another level,

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>for forty years we had one mayor who was a

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>real estate developer in that seat. And he is literally

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>if you look at since his data, he literally had

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>flipped the black population, which was in the majority when

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>he took office in late nineteen seventies. He flipped the population.

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And while I'm bringing that up in this conversations because

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to we're trying to tell people that this

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>was part of the plan the whole time. And some

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>of the actors, some of the last names and bad

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:56.719
<v Speaker 1>actors now well literally their fathers were a part of

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>the original plans in the seventies to fill in developed

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>this area and to expel black people, black family, black history,

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>black culture, and to bring in you know, more more tourists,

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>more white folks, more affluent white folks, et cetera. So

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>right now, even though we've we've made our compelling case, um,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>they're not listening. So we're gonna take you to the courts.

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's where we're at right now. We're taking one

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 1>of the chief developer West Edge to court in June. Um. Yeah,

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>And so currently, uh, we are you know, we're going

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>through a lot of things, depositions and and things like that.

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>So like, what what do you think it is that

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>y'all need? Because, like you said that, you've been working

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>at this for a while, So what is it that

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>you think you need at this moment that would like

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>push it over the top because of public outcry is

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>at a high pit and you guys are doing all

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>this stuff and you know what I mean, you're they're

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>still resisting. Like what do you think could push you

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>all over the top? Yeah, Like, first of all, even

0:34:55.160 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>being go ahead, all right, I was listening to moments

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 1>talked about when we met a couple of weeks ago,

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Like okay, what we're the tactics of like the Lennontown project,

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>and like we told you about them, and it sounded

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty much like what y'all did. It's like, well, y'all

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>must be up against some like especially evil people. If

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 1>like y'all have done, it sounds like even higher degrees

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and we did with letting down and they still trying

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>to resist y'all. But yeah, what what was it was?

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>He I'm interested in here as well? What's your analysis

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of Yeah? Yeah, the yeah, well you know, um get

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 1>that's like a heart I think I had an answer

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, but no, I think being here is helpful.

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Like seriously, one thing about Charleston they lose is public

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>like national exposure. They little they might they'll deal with

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.959
<v Speaker 1>a couple of us tree huggers, you know. Um, But

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>when it becomes a story um in New York Times,

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>because we've seen the tourism industry, or rather I call

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it the Antebellum industrial complex, we've seen them respond to

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 1>perhaps you know, some stories that I've been involved with

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>in the New York Times or other stories in the

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Washington Post about about some of the things that they

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>do here. The um. So I think more exposure always helps. Um.

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I think more we we love ideas, the call we

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>have with you Mariah. UM was so just so important

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>because we were doing a lot of the things that

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>you were suggesting, Which is not to say that, oh yeah,

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>we did that, No, it was it was validation, so

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>being in community with other folks and learning new things

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>because you also put us up on games, so we

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>learned new things. But also it was validation to hear

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that Okay, yeah, leveraging the archive, that's a good step. UM.

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Getting the elders involved, UM. Shout out to Mr John.

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>We were just over there yesterday, UM holding space with

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.240
<v Speaker 1>him and walking the creek and talking to him about

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>upcoming legal action and how he's gonna participate. And so

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>like having these partnerships with people who've been a part

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of that community, even if they moved away, UM bringing

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>them back in. And our recent UM a recent part

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>ner CAJUM, which is uh, it's like a Christian a

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Christian justice ministry activist group. Well, they rolled deep, six

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>thousand strong. We're having a huge rally on April four, UM,

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and we're we're holding the mayor's feet to the fire.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>And even though he won't come and participate in this

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>action that we've asked him to come and participate in

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.720
<v Speaker 1>pledge that he won't fill the creek. The the optics

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>of having you know, hundreds of hundreds, if not a thousand,

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 1>people show up and n advocate for this, this area,

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>this neighborhood is going to help put us a little

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>bit over the top. But I think more exposure and

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 1>more collaboration with other like minded groups, especially in the South.

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 1>People really do not give the South enough credit for organizing.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>The blueprint is here. We know this, we know this historically,

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and so UM just continue to build partnerships across the

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Southeast has been really important. Yeah, and then two things

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to like go back and just highlight. One.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Mayor had to go across the ocean to find the

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>white people that live amongst Water in order to get

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:12.760
<v Speaker 1>their confirmation that like you, like you should live amongst Water,

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that there was a rich and vibrant

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>community of black people probably right on the street from him.

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I was doing it. It It was like, yeah, look, we're

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>out here doing it. It's like, I don't know, I

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta find I gotta find the whitest white people. I

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.439
<v Speaker 1>have to consult with the whites first. It's not real.

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not real unless you have white man telling you,

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, with a with a nice you know, with

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a funky accident, no shade, but like you know what

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not it's not real unless you do that.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And to your point, yo, like like Charleston is the

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>cradle of slavery. Charleston is the cradle of slavery. My

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>last name is tied so directly to one of the

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>biggest uh, you know, traffickers of Africans and slave Africans

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Gadsden right, um. And so I'm bringing that up because

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the African people that they stole came from certain coastal

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>regions where they had the best like I guess, they

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>were engineers. They were. They were these brilliant scientific minds

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that also worked with the water and and also taught

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>white folks here how to how to irrigate, how to

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>create these rice fields, you know, more more land and

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>soil was moved to create these these rice plantations then

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>were moved for the pyramids in Egypt, and so to

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>just imagine the brilliance. And then when you when you

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>learn more, y'all, when you learn more about the Gala

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Gichi traditions of living with water, surviving hurricanes, preparing and

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>rebuilding communities after hurricanes and things like that. You know,

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you tap those resources because there are there

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>are so many black oystermen, black fishermen, crabbers, you know,

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>all types of folks who live off the water. You you,

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is not a lofty thing, is to

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>see a black man with the boat in Charleston, you know,

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>because that's that's how people live and and and enjoy nature. Um.

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, he went all around the world, and

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I I I when you could just went down the

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>highway and and really and just really tap some like.

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing about Charleston. They will not they

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>will not look to black people for that brilliance, you know,

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>they will not look and seek that out. The gyms

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>are brilliance among us here. They rather go across the

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>globe um to get that white European validation. And that

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 1>that just shows you their priorities and how skewed they are.

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>So it's hard enough that you guys are dealing with

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the city and everything like that. But how is like

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the effects of climate change effecting something the fight that

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys are. I don't know if I'm gonna be

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>here like in five years. Seriously the look Okay, so

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>this is my story. Jersey girl born and raised. But

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>my dad semi retired when I was in tenth grade.

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>So I actually finished high school down here, but I

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>was pune out because Charleston was just too regressive. I

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be near culture and I and went to

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I went to undergrad in the New York metro area. Um,

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that because I remember being here. Flooding was

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the thing. We're below sea level. Charleston has been below

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>sea level. That's not a secret. Flooding was a thing,

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't this thing. When I came back around

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to see us, I didn't know about sunny day flooding that.

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, the water just it's just it's just, you know,

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the table is full, like literally below us. And a

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of people like to talk about and shout out

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to my My homie also part of the fo g

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 1>C click amaring Um from Pratt. She and her her

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>her comrades at Pratt up in Brooklyn. They actually did

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of district a lot of research for us

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>regarding tips. And I'm bringing head up because they've also

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>been telling me about Hey, yeah, you're worried about the

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>storm surge and other sea level rise, but you're not

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>worried about the sea level rise that's like beneath our

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>feet and so rainy Dave flooding is one of like

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a byproduct of some of that that there's water, uh

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>that we don't even we don't even know how to

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>deal with that's coming up. So when it's brilliant and

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>beautiful days like today, we went we were out in

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>back to Green yesterday there were puddles all over the place.

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't any rain at least in the last for

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>eight hours. So so what is that. So so you

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>have that and you have um, you know, when it

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>when it rains even for literally twenty minutes and not

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing torrential, just regular everyday drizzle, it can literally shut

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>down the main thoroughfares for students and families to get

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>to school and work. And so lots of kids have

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>stayed home in this specific area. And that's pretty much

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>consistent around the peninsula. They've been filling in the marshaland

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of tidal creeks all around the peninsula for so long

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's just exacerbated this issue. And now the

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>tail of two cities. Back the Green, you'll go on

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a rainy day, you'll see sandbags on everyone's front stoop.

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>But over on like south of broad Street, where the

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 1>more affluent, affluent area is, you actually have people hiking

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>up their houses. They're jacking up their houses because they

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>know that sea level rise is imminent. It's coming. Yeah,

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>so you know when you come here, you'll see two

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>different approaches. And you know, black people can't lift the

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>projects up. You know, we didn't do that. But um

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 1>also again shows you the priorities of the city as well. Yeah,

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I think we've talked about it before. Is the kind

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of one of the issues that you know, kind of

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>gets overlooked when people are talking about climate change is

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 1>how it's gonna affect poor people and marginalized communities quicker

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>than it's gonna think those that don't have to live

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yet, one thing I wanted to circle back

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to the second man once talks back to was um

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>public education around this history um as I I mean,

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's something we did well, but also

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>with engaging like newer generations GENC and folks like that,

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm working with like elders and art community to think

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>about how we can reach them. I mean, we have

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>like technologies that they never even seen, like they might

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>have heard of TikTok or something like very foreign to them,

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and so kind of engaged in like like a like

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a almost like an ideological tunnel around like we're trying

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to open. That's one of the demands a Balend Town project.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 1>They wanted a black history museum built, and we got

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the space for it carved out. We're

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 1>working out you know, the funding, etcetera. But really like

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the contents of it are like of a lot of

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 1>debate because like they want to have some photos of

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>their like grandparents or something like. But what if we

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>had like a virtual reality like simulation or you could

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 1>walk through and see the neighborhood, so like things like that.

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm wondering, like, for you, what have you found

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>to be a success or struggles as you have encountered

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>with regards to educating people in the history. Yeah, that's

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm on twitch, right. So one thing about me,

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 1>um is I'm on Twitch. I'm I'm probably I'm trying

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to think. Um, I'm probably one of the older members

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 1>of Friends of Gas and Creek in forty one and so. UM.

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:42.839
<v Speaker 1>But one thing about me, I know that the work

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>has to remain nimble and dynamic, and so it's it's

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not afraid of technology. UM, I've embraced it. I've

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I've gone back to the school and whatnot, and I've

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>just literally just you know, taught myself to do everything

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>from podcasting to creating digital content across different mediums and

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>UM and do that. I've learned a love of sharing

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that information. I've seen a really favorable response. Take take

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>for instance, UM, Black History Month that just passed. UM,

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to just do the regular not no shade,

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't want to just do if you know

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>about Charleston's history, you know a lot about den MARVC,

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>which I did pay tribute to him. I wanted to

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>pay tribute to two women, UM, like Mary Moultrie who

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>led that famous hospital workers strike with corrector Scott King. Um.

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, after MLK was assassinated. This was one of

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>probably arguably one of the more more significant moments in

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>civil rights history. Is not paying this such, but it

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>was so tremendous in terms of you know, you organizing

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hospital workers that were predominantly black and women. Um, but

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>when I when I started to create content around Mary Moultrie,

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows her story. But when I created TikTok's or

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:49.879
<v Speaker 1>or reels, when I tell people that, hey, we had

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>this public art space or this this entertainment hall called

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the King Street Palace or the County Hall where MLK

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>talk spoke at and even farra Con and Salt and

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Pepper and Biggie Small notorious b I g I was

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it was written as bigg Small as the paper. But

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>but you know, like, look, black, blackhood, black culture used

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to be a people because they've done so much to

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>erase our contributions. So to your to your point, there

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>is a museum being built and it does have some

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>controversy there because it they're trying to put all of

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Charles's black history inside of this museum. And it's not

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.839
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound similar to what you just mentioned. It's not

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>from the people by the people. It's it's from it's

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>from the same developers who want to say, hey, we

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>did this thing and now shut up black people. You know,

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>we gave you this. And so it's more so as

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to the predecess the mayors that that preceded the

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>current one. But but to that point, that's why it's

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>important to create these digital spaces where um, like a TikTok.

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:49.479
<v Speaker 1>I went to to the Disabled Museum in Chicago back

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>in November and they had the virtual reality headsets and

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>they put us right there at the March on Washington, Uh,

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, March on Washington with MLK, and like, what

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>would it feel like for my mom to sit there

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.479
<v Speaker 1>and put that on or my dad to put those

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, put that on? An experience that we can

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>do that here with our history and culture. So it's

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>something that we're talking about. I think that's something that

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm more so passionate about because I'm in this text

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>space to trying to make this information more accessible. Um

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and so I I love the question because it just

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it it gives you endless possibilities of what we could do,

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>how organizing could look like, what it could look like. Definitely, definitely. Well,

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean one thing I definitely struggle with. It's funny

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>my older colleagues. I'm the youngest person on the commission,

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and so there was like, how do you how are

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.439
<v Speaker 1>you always getting these young folks to apply for these

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>boards and authorities and like showing up to speak and

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>they're like kind of mad about it. They don't like it.

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>And then the elders of my community are like, well

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear about that. I'm like, dang, like I

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>only you know, posted about that on Instagram or whatever,

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.240
<v Speaker 1>like I also need to be mindful of like, uh,

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>multigenerational ways of of informing all of you know, the public,

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>because you know, our movements have to be multigenerational. Um.

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, I think I appreciate the ways

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>that you bring in new media's um because the young

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>folks are going to be the ones to care of

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the struggle forward after all of us sitting here are gone,

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's so I appreciate you for that.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take some notes something like but but but

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess let me answer you a question at bit

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 1>more directly, like so i'm creating this content, I'm talking

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to the elders, right, so I'm not And I'm like,

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 1>oh no, this woman and she used to live here

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and she gave me a little tidbit. And so listening

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to our older generations has been paramount timp to my

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 1>success as an organizer and of course to our collective,

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the friends of Gas and Creek. So um yeah, finding

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 1>ways to integrate you know what they have to say

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<v Speaker 1>has been a challenge, but a good challenge, one of

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 1>those good challenges, those good problems where you know you're

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>always finding better solutions every every month or so. Yeah,

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you got any more? Did you have? I mean, did

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 1>you have something? I mean, I'm enjoy listening to y'all

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 1>talk of what else, what else working on? How else

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you're working on? To other people to know about I Honestly,

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I just need people to get on this twitch like

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I I want people to not be intimidated by it.

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 1>They don't have to subscribe, they don't have to even

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 1>create an account. Push is just a website, as as

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 1>my friends always say, um, and I want to just

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a morning show. So every morning Monday through Friday,

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>at eight am, I live stream for at least two hours,

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I go as long as four. Sometimes in the

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>evening I do a double day where I come back

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<v Speaker 1>in our livestream City Council from home and we watched together,

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and we prep people days in advance to submit comment

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 1>from home. Now that we have all these tools where

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:46.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, participating in government should be and is more accessible.

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>So I have people submit their written or weight online

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 1>on the phone, but they can tune in and watch twitch.

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm trying to use twitches a way to

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<v Speaker 1>really get into people's homes. And uh, it's a it's

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a morning, it's a local morning show, and it's city

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>like Charleston that's doing everything in its power to displace

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>or to replace local voices with aggregated, you know, or

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>syndicated voices. Um, I my mind is a little spicy

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>now cussing the morning and me in the South. I'm

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a northern girl and so I know that don't always

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:24.799
<v Speaker 1>culturally fit. Oh my god, spicy and like so so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the kiddos can't hear it in the car during

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<v Speaker 1>the car pool in the morning, but if people give

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<v Speaker 1>it a shot, they hang it long enough and they

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<v Speaker 1>see how dogged I am at like excavating. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I I just went through the mayor's received last week

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just conflicts of interests and people really

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 1>responded to, Oh, I didn't know his dad own this

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.440
<v Speaker 1>company and I didn't know Mayor Riley created this this

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:51.240
<v Speaker 1>foundation that's really just a development company. Through the city

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>using city money. I didn't know that that they created.

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:56.440
<v Speaker 1>They have nine districts on the Peninsula alone where they're

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>siphoning off money from public education just to subsidize the

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 1>development projects. So like, that's what I like to do

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and what I love about Twitches. It's not so, it's

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 1>not TikTok, it's not Instagram, and that you can have

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a long form it's long form content where you can

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 1>have an extended conversation about some of these things played

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 1>in Charleston. And also we celebrate, we have fun, I

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 1>use sound effects. It's not meet the Press, it's it's

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 1>really dynamic and lively and you know, come check out

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.439
<v Speaker 1>a girl with frizzy hair, embraces, you know, talk shit

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that that things. Yeah, that'll wake up. So okay, So

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>where can uh what? What? What's the Where can they

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>find the show? Where can they find you? And what

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you're doing? Sure? On Instagram you can find me at

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Charleston Activist Network. UM. On Twitter, it is just me

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Mika Gatz and I'm more active on that UM. But

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:49.319
<v Speaker 1>twitch twitches, twitch t w I t w A. I'm

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.600
<v Speaker 1>all like now now I'm like tw twitch t w

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<v Speaker 1>I t C h dot tv forward slash Mika gads

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<v Speaker 1>than m I K A g A D S D

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>E N. So Yeah, Twitch dot tv forward slash Mika

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Gazon is where you can buy me and I really

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the more the merrier, even if you don't even if

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you're just a lurker as I call him, Even if

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you're just a lurker and you don't want to participate

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in the chat, come and check it out and watch

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of hours if you can. Yeah, it's

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>one of these days we're gonna have to hop on

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that stream over. Please do It's fun. It's fun. We

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>keep it, We keep it really lively for sure. But

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much Mika for coming and joining us.

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Um we'll see you on Twitch, yes, and um we'll

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>see you out here when one of these things. Yeah,

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>y'all invite wh I do interviews, y'all invited to come

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 1>on over definitely. Alright, y'all, that was Mika Gazon. That

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:46.880
<v Speaker 1>was a really dope conversation. We're definitely gonna go on

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that Twitch stream and talk to where we want for

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh hell yeah, I want to break into the Twitter.

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to get into all that streaming shot. I

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:54.800
<v Speaker 1>want to I want to do. There's so much I

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>want to do. Ya Like, I want to make like

0:52:56.800 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 1>a YouTube channel ship, like I want to be able

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to just like I want to just like drop like

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 1>week update wraps on people and stuff like I want

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to do all that ship. Well, I'll tell you what.

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Remember last time when I was like, yo, we're for

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 1>real winning on reparations. My Venmo is Mariah Parkerto. We

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>had one one send me fifty dollars. I'll remember your name, homie,

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>But I appreciate you. All I'm saying is if you're

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to, like we're trying to, you know, like make this,

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, expand our media empire. You can fund that

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 1>by sending Max some money on Dope knife at Dope

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>knighte on Venmo. Go to the band camp, buy some ship.

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what. We're even gonna make a waiting on

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Reparations band camp and have like exclusive audio and and

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>merge and some other things. You gotta straighten all that out.

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>But all that ship is un the work, um, but

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. Word out, um you feel like crap. Well.

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I had a new single

0:53:56.960 --> 0:54:01.120
<v Speaker 1>come out yesterday. Oh good, you did well I mean

0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it's coming out. It's coming out Wednesday, but you know

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, um, so yeah, I would love to

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.720
<v Speaker 1>play all my new tunes called Necessity and top Bell Ringers.

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>So you can go download the single today or preorder

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the album. But yeah, all those people pep this um

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and the song goes out to all my MESSI mishies

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.240
<v Speaker 1>that I don't want to say, turn their lives around,

0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 1>but also like keep it keeping one hundred like in

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 1>their passion and professional pursuits. It never made me come

0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and this affected to oh my god, I never love

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you your room, making your mad parnastory. The saying limps

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>fine to do. What I'm trying to say is a

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of hey do but lots of hbstacles when you

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.839
<v Speaker 1>ain't out your pockets fools. He just got me two

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars and buy foods. We could try to make

0:54:54.840 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>it work. Pictures. That's October twoteen statement safe that I'm

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:03.440
<v Speaker 1>dropping in the sea of working at the university, curves

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that I'm taking personally like ex gott a new girl,

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 1>but he's still pouncing on the sneak because that coach

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 1>is juicy is a cord of pounder with cheese without

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the while and pretty worked listening. I'm the pous is

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>full of police from a tappy cat naps in the kitchen,

0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Cabby nitties swearing to catching mousters while he snaps. Have

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 1>been the cop with the boys because even though got burke,

0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 1>ever since I lost the power to be what power

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.279
<v Speaker 1>to clean, but power to pay the power, pay the

0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>then it's in the hospital, pay the internet, the water,

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.839
<v Speaker 1>building up the offices, and pay for kitten chousing out

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the little nigga hostage like he's sending into what Cosby did,

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:38.800
<v Speaker 1>but not off the his I just adopted him because

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I needed a friend, needed somebody to be with the

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 1>seeded body heating the bed. Oh yeah, and my cat's

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:53.399
<v Speaker 1>named Egg love you you know, made on never love

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you from your man. Mad's a hardy cut stand straight

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the saying it was fine to do what I'm trying

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to say. The card and I hate you all obstacles

0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>when you ain't got your pockets, fools. He just taught

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>me to under dollars and body food. We could him

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>when you work. Picture that's November three years ago. I'm

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 1>bet on the next Canada patio because my ears, a

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 1>cold chising with the canny slits and passing canadabis. So

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to be clear, I didn't hit it. I'm not a

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.360
<v Speaker 1>fan of it. No, I'm just chilling with this chatty folks,

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>because the antidope to being sad and ship stashing in

0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>yourself into a mannequin. Open up some sugar, Daddy your

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>candidate with daddy and bumpy bucks, and make your pain stock.

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>He is the game. Hey, what didn ain't where you're from? Oh?

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Cool bars, closed cars, home, just regard clothes, moan the

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:41.360
<v Speaker 1>scars don't show when to morrow comes, give him not

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 1>parcel talk, give up your part. Tell low calls sometimes,

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and when he calls, he thinks you're close on him

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and pretty much falsome to adopt you like he's a

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.239
<v Speaker 1>foster kid because of pottery, because you hate your body

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're closet it and cant finding yourself what you

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 1>think that you're finding? Love him? You never made me

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:01.320
<v Speaker 1>come just to shoot you and oh never loved you

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 1>when you're your fans are part of costance dream the

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:09.879
<v Speaker 1>same And I'm trying to say some kind of hate. Hey, hey,

0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 1>this is dope knife, little Frank, and you have been

0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>listening to Waiting on Reparations. See you this week, Pierce.

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:22.800
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