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Speaker 1: You never notice.

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Speaker 2: We use a lot of volcanic metaphor on the show.

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Speaker 2: I talk about volcanoes all the time. Never been to

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Speaker 2: one in my life, never been close to lava in

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Speaker 2: my life. But the Forkley speaking of course, anytime we

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Speaker 2: have warned of an impending eruption on the show as

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Speaker 2: it relates to college football, that eruption has happened, and

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Speaker 2: I am warning you tonight one is coming in about

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Speaker 2: oh twenty days or so.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: I put a timeframe on it so you don't have

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Speaker 2: to guess when it happens as to whether that was

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Speaker 2: what I was talking about. Late Kick is library jampacked,

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Speaker 2: Hya atap A sunny South Florida. We're in Fort Lauderdale.

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Speaker 2: Tonight will be all over the country again this week.

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Speaker 2: I always told you, always warned you. If this company

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Speaker 2: ever looked and said, hey, we're gonna throw a lot

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Speaker 2: And that's what we've been doing with the Speakers series.

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Speaker 2: But that's this week. As for tonight, transfer portal is

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Speaker 2: about to light up, guys, It's about to light up

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Speaker 2: and I'm not talking about some second third string movement.

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Speaker 2: Sure that's gonna happen, but I'm talking about things well

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Speaker 2: above and beyond just that. There is speaking of movement,

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Speaker 2: too much of it going on in coaching circles, and

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Speaker 2: I have a bitten my tongue for too long, So

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about it tonight. You guys claim

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Speaker 2: Michigan got some things to say, Arkansas got some things

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Speaker 2: what you're doing out there. They're watching us in West

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much. I cannot implore you enough.

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Speaker 2: If you're not already doing it. Oh, look at that

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Speaker 2: little pellmar, a little scratched up. Make sure you're following

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Speaker 2: at late kick, Josh, because we were in let's see,

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Speaker 2: we're going to three more places this week. We will

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Speaker 2: make sure you're following, and I will give your heads

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours from now. In the meantime, though, I

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Speaker 2: It's not good for the players. It's good for him

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Speaker 1: And some of you are going to love it because

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Speaker 1: And you'll also look back.

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Speaker 2: and so what's happening right now?

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Speaker 1: I kid you not.

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Speaker 1: What is your perfect world?

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Speaker 2: Because a lot of people have complained about the player

435
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Speaker 2: movement and players going all over the place, and then

436
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: other people have yelled back, well, coaches do it all

437
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Speaker 2: the time, and that's this ongoing debate in college football.

438
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Speaker 2: We'll stop for a second and then ask, in a

439
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Speaker 2: perfect world, what does coaching movement look like? And as

440
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Speaker 2: you're picturing that, tell me if it doesn't sound a

441
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 2: whole heck of a lot like the world. Matt Campbell

442
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Speaker 2: explains himself living in short of like internet rumors, there's

443
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Speaker 2: never been really serious traction to you not being here,

444
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Speaker 2: So could you walk people through as much as you

445
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Speaker 2: can the thought process you have when you have opportunity.

446
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Speaker 3: You know, I've been that guy where it's like, geez,

447
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Speaker 3: should I be climbing this this ladder of job to

448
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: job at a really young age too. You know, when

449
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: we got to Iowa State and have been able to

450
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Speaker 3: build something different, and I know, you know, for me,

451
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Speaker 3: leaving the University of Toledo was really hard to be

452
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Speaker 3: quite honest, you know, from Ohio. My wife and I

453
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Speaker 3: have never left Ohio at that time, with three kids

454
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Speaker 3: with a fourth on the way, we had grandparents and

455
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Speaker 3: family that were you know, anchors to us, and it

456
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Speaker 3: was really hard to leave. And you know, that was

457
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Speaker 3: the first time I said, geez, I don't know if

458
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Speaker 3: this is what I want to do. I want to

459
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Speaker 3: be able to lay roots and build something different in

460
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Speaker 3: something that's really special, that can stand for something. And

461
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Speaker 3: you know, I think that's the one gratitude that I

462
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Speaker 3: have for being the head coach. I walk in here

463
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Speaker 3: every day and I'm just beyond grateful to be the

464
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Speaker 3: head football coach at Iowa stayed and you know, we've

465
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Speaker 3: been able to build a program and build a program

466
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Speaker 3: that I really believe stands for something. And on top

467
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Speaker 3: of that, as we've had our successes and some of

468
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Speaker 3: that outside noises come in, you know, even personally, for me,

469
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Speaker 3: I've always gone back to the checklist of Number One,

470
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Speaker 3: I wanted to be a great father.

471
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Speaker 2: I want to be a great husband.

472
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Speaker 3: I never wanted to, you know, let the profession ruin

473
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Speaker 3: what's the most important to me, and that's my family.

474
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Speaker 3: And number two, you want to work for great people,

475
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Speaker 3: in with great people, And you know, I think I'm

476
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Speaker 3: really fortunate that, you know, we've got great trust within

477
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Speaker 3: our athletic department here, within our administration here, within our

478
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Speaker 3: coaching staff here. That's been really important and it's a

479
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Speaker 3: joy to come in every day and work with people

480
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Speaker 3: that are aligned to the same vision. And then I

481
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Speaker 3: think the third part of it, which is probably the

482
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Speaker 3: most important part, is what are you stand for in

483
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Speaker 3: this profession? You know, I think for me it's been

484
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Speaker 3: I wanted to build something that allows young people to

485
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Speaker 3: feel confident and to feel trusted when they come into

486
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Speaker 3: our football program, that they can go through this profound

487
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Speaker 3: transition that they're going through in life, eighteen years old,

488
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Speaker 3: leaving home for the first time, getting into this uber

489
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Speaker 3: competitive environment, and all of a sudden, you want that support.

490
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Speaker 3: You want that trust that your coach is going to

491
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Speaker 3: be there, that these people are going to be there,

492
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Speaker 3: and they're building something that's going to support this journey

493
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Speaker 3: that should change your life forever if it's done correctly.

494
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Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's something that we've been

495
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Speaker 3: really proud of because we've been able to build that

496
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Speaker 3: kind of football program here. So really, as my own

497
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Speaker 3: journeys happened, I think defining who are you, what do

498
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Speaker 3: you want to stand for, and what are the type

499
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Speaker 3: of people that you want to surround yourself with, And

500
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Speaker 3: we've been really fortunate to be able.

501
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Speaker 1: To do that here.

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Speaker 2: So I want you to ask yourself, does that sound

503
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Speaker 2: like how you wish more coaches thought? And if the

504
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Speaker 2: answer is yes, which I think it is for most

505
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Speaker 2: of you, ask yourself this, what are the most recent

506
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Speaker 2: comments you've made about Matt Campbell? Because I'm looking at

507
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Speaker 2: the live chat here and it's pretty similar to what.

508
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Speaker 1: I would normally hear out there.

509
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Speaker 2: You'd probably be painfully misguided on what history is at

510
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Speaker 2: Iowa State. You know, a seven or eight win season

511
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Speaker 2: that Iowa State it's a really big deal. I don't

512
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Speaker 2: know if you guys understand that. And he does that

513
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Speaker 2: and probably will be in that range again this year.

514
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Speaker 2: So are you crediting guys like that? Are you praising

515
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Speaker 2: guys like that? Or are you claiming you want something?

516
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Speaker 2: But then when someone exhibits what you claim you want,

517
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Speaker 2: are you trying to dunk on them to get thirty

518
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Speaker 2: seven retweets? That's the first thing i'd ask. The second

519
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: thing i'd ask is that's great just in isolation, But

520
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Speaker 2: you know what the bigger picture here is, right, I

521
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Speaker 2: think most of you because most of you are participating

522
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Speaker 2: in this right now, I am too, so us most

523
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: of us are participating in this conversation, and the conversation

524
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Speaker 2: sounds a little something like this. Don't you be complaining

525
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Speaker 2: about these players moving around if you're going to move

526
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Speaker 2: around as well. And we've long since addressed the differences

527
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Speaker 2: in coaches and players on this show. Coaches are not players.

528
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 2: Coaches have contracts, and when you violate the terms in

529
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Speaker 2: that contract, there's a buy out to be paid. So

530
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Speaker 2: it's not penalty free, no one suggesting it is. But

531
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Speaker 2: for broad strokes purposes, you know as well as I do,

532
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Speaker 2: those coaches are in those locker rooms. Those coaches are

533
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Speaker 2: in those position rooms, and they're preaching one thing and

534
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Speaker 2: practicing another far too often, And so that's a valid argument.

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Speaker 2: I have spoken about this several times just this month alone,

536
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Speaker 2: of the fact that even though I readily admit there

537
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Speaker 2: is a difference in coaches and players, and I readily

538
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Speaker 2: admit it's not the exact same thing. When an offensive

539
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Speaker 2: lineman goes from Alabama to iwand then I will back

540
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Speaker 2: to Alabama as a coach moving it is pretty ridiculous

541
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Speaker 2: and does make the argument pretty moot when you do

542
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Speaker 2: have everywhere from coaches to athletic directors out there taking

543
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Speaker 2: a job and then being gone weeks to a few

544
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Speaker 2: months after they sign on the dotted line, How are

545
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Speaker 2: you about to preach accountability or loyalty or consistency to

546
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Speaker 2: a group of eighteen to twenty two year olds when

547
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Speaker 2: a group of forty to sixty year olds can't practice

548
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Speaker 2: the same characteristics and things. So I get it, I

549
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Speaker 2: get it, and I have a hard time pushing back

550
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Speaker 2: on that. There is a realm of movement that everyone understands.

551
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Speaker 1: Okay.

552
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Speaker 2: In other words, if I'm the defensive coordinator at middle

553
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Speaker 2: Tennessee State and the University of Tennessee offers me the

554
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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator position. It is understandable that I would make

555
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Speaker 2: that leap. If I'm the head coach at Middle Tennessee

556
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Speaker 2: State and the University of Tennessee offers me their head

557
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: coaching position, It's understandable I would make that leap.

558
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Speaker 1: But some of these dudes.

559
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Speaker 2: Wikipedia pages roll out like a scroll, and it's just

560
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Speaker 2: it's lateral movement. It's movement for the sake of movement. Now,

561
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Speaker 2: as negative as that sounds, I do want to say this.

562
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Speaker 2: There there are a lot of guys. There are a

563
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Speaker 2: lot of coaches out there who turn down offers every cycle,

564
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Speaker 2: and most of the legitimate offers that are there, you know,

565
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: most of the legitimate opportunities to take that guys decline.

566
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Speaker 1: You never hear about a lot of times.

567
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Speaker 2: When you hear about it, it's posturing from an agent,

568
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: and we all get how that game's played. So I

569
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Speaker 2: do have tip I salute everyone who does that. I

570
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: had a head coach recently who I know had offers

571
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Speaker 2: on the table that every one of us would have

572
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Speaker 2: looked at and said, that job is better than the

573
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Speaker 2: one you have, not light years better. But this job

574
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: and this job, they're better than the ones you have.

575
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Speaker 2: And I had that coach look at me and say,

576
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Speaker 2: that's the thing. They're marginally better. Is that really what

577
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Speaker 2: I want to be? Is that what I want to do?

578
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Speaker 2: Do I want to just climb rungs on the ladder

579
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Speaker 2: for the sake of climbing? Do I want to be

580
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Speaker 2: seen as a mercenary? Do I want to take my

581
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Speaker 2: kids out of a school? Most importantly, he said, I've

582
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Speaker 2: been preaching one thing to this locker since I've been here.

583
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Speaker 2: Do I want to practice the other thing? Really, it's

584
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Speaker 2: as simple as that. I think at the end of

585
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: the day, that's all a lot of people are asking.

586
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: Just if you if you espouse these values and beliefs,

587
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: just practice them. I appreciate it, Matt Campbell saying that

588
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: because he didn't even know we were going there. In fact,

589
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: I have no notes in these interviews because I want

590
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: it to be that way. And that was a really

591
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: good conversation we had with him. That entire conversation is

592
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Speaker 2: on the YouTube channel if you want to see it.

593
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Speaker 2: They're watching us in Harrisburg, PA, Lincoln, Nebraska, Rome, Georgia, Spokane, Washington.

594
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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so so much. I saw like the

595
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: entire state of Alabama's playing basketball in Spokane this week. Fascinating.

596
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: Let's stay on the West coast for a second. Is

597
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: it happening at USC? People are talking, so I need

598
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: to ask is it happening? And by it, I mean

599
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: is USC about to take the leap up to elite

600
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: status and recruiting? Are they about to recruit the South?

601
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Speaker 2: Are they about to stack up on the lines of scrimmage?

602
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: Well the answer is a big fat remains to be seen,

603
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: but there have been some positive drum beats in the

604
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: past day or so. This entire show is basically formatted

605
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: based on who's been talking the most trash about us.

606
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm professional, but that's the way we do it. So

607
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 2: I'm over on the peristyle earlier, that is the message

608
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: board on the USC twenty four to seven site, and

609
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: I see that they're calling for me. I got a

610
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: notification they were calling for me over there, and I

611
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: went over there and they were saying, Hey, you're going

612
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: to talk about USC recruiting. Now what now? What now?

613
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: Very very standoffish, not all of them, just some of them.

614
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: And so I went and I said, yeah, we got

615
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: a show tonight. I'll talk about it now. Why would

616
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: they be making that noise, Well, they're making that noise

617
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: because Justice Terry two US Injustice Justice Terry, five star

618
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: defensive linemen out of Manchester, Georgia, people my backyard, Manchester, Georgia,

619
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Speaker 2: decommitted from Georgia and committed to USC earlier today. And

620
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: that is right in line with Isaiah Gibson, a four

621
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: star edge player from Warner Robbins committing to USC. There

622
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: might as well be legal language on the bottom of

623
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Speaker 2: the screen right now. I'm gonna save all of you

624
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Speaker 2: time still comment because it helps us from an SEO perspective,

625
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: but I'm going to save you time. Everybody knows that

626
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: this isn't official until they sign on the dotted line.

627
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: Everybody gets it.

628
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Speaker 2: Nobody suggesting these recruitments are over Georgia for all I know,

629
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Speaker 2: could come in and flip both of them, or Bama

630
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: or Florida State or Hoopstever. This isn't in the moment thing, okay,

631
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Speaker 2: And it's symbolic, just like Undertaker versus Boss Men at

632
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: WrestleMania fifteen. At the end, a lot of this is

633
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 2: symbolic Symbolically, it signifies not only did Lincoln Riley overhaul

634
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: as defensive staff, and not only have they talked out

635
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: there a great deal about this this, Well they're going

636
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: to overhaul everything, but in terms of philosophy, we're overhauling

637
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: this and that, and well you got to have the

638
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: players to do that. Okay, So symbolically this is a

639
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: really good look. It makes me feel good about the

640
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: direction of USC on the line of scrimmage and on

641
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. And I haven't said

642
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: that a whole lot since Lincoln Riley's been there. So

643
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: what do I have to say Now? The USC folks asked,

644
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: good job, That's what I have to say. Now, hold

645
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: on and press on are the other things that I

646
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: would say. Hold on because everyone knows that the recruitments

647
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: of these guys in a way are just getting started.

648
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't ever feel safe about anyone. I have no

649
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: knowledge of whether both of them are solid or not.

650
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: Like I have no knowledge of that. I don't. I

651
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: let Wilfong dive into the weeds on that for me,

652
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: and I just ask that we get a courtesy text

653
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: before the stuff's about to go down.

654
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: But in a broader sense. They know this.

655
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm just saying in a broader sense, don't rest on this.

656
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: In fact, this ought to just be like drink it's

657
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: a pre workout. Now you're even more fired up. And

658
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: what a beautiful sunset there. Look at Lincoln Riley sunset

659
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: in the background. Who it's pretty out there. But you

660
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 2: got to have really, really ugly guys to win at

661
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: the highest levels. If they don't have an option on

662
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: recruiting at the line of scrimmage, Oregon, Dutton, either Washington, Dutton,

663
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: Ucla do none of these West Coast teams have an option.

664
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: They don't have enough difference makers on the O line

665
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: and defensive line on the West Coast. You have to

666
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: recruit those positions nationally if you're going to win at

667
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: the highest level. If Oregon or US you're gonna win

668
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: the Big Ten, they have to have defensive an offensive

669
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: lineman from Louisiana, Georgia and Texas and Ohio gotta do it.

670
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: It's a non negotiable. You gotta know what it.

671
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: Looks like east of the Mississippi River if.

672
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: You want to find out.

673
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: Knowing what it looks like come playoff time, what does

674
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: it feel like to have confetti raining down on you.

675
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: Well to find out you're gonna have to have an

676
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: O line and D line compromise or compromise or whatever

677
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: of guys from all over the place. That's exciting. I'm

678
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: not saying it's not. I am also saying it's March,

679
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: so let's pace ourselves. And it's for our own good.

680
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: I am now speaking as a member of the Paris

681
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: style over there. It's for our own good. We have

682
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: to be cautiously optimistic on this, but we have to

683
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: look over each shoulder each and every day, because here's

684
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: what you're going to notice. As you guys knew once

685
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: upon a time, when you have four and five star

686
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage talent committed, there aren't a lot of them.

687
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: And conversely, there are tons of programs in need. And

688
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: in the era of no rules, no limits, anything goes.

689
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: When desperation sets in, you never know what those guys

690
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: are going to have put on their plate. That's why

691
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: I do not care how firm the language is and

692
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: the communication is today between any kid and a coaching staff.

693
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: People aren't desperate enough yet.

694
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: It's like we're in an election season. And since I

695
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: will never turn the show into a political show. This

696
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: is as close as I get. I don't really ever

697
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: pay attention to what's happening in January and February because

698
00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: people aren't desperate enough. When the desperation sets in in July, August, September,

699
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: then you start seeing the haymakers gloves come off. Risk

700
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: reward doesn't matter anymore. Well, it's the same way with

701
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: a collective. It's the same way with a booster. It's

702
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 2: the same way with a position coach that knows jobs

703
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: on the line, the same way with a head coach

704
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: that knows his jobs on the line. What are you

705
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: ready to sign off on that? You probably aren't quite

706
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 2: ready to do yet. So anyway, good for Lincoln Riley,

707
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: and both of those guys came from the state of Georgia.

708
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: Wilfoon's got a piece on twenty four to seven Sports

709
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: right now about how much noise, how much waves they're

710
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: making us in the South just recruiting the South. You've

711
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: got to do it, You have got to do it.

712
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: They may have all the quarterbacks and wide receivers in

713
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: the world you need out in California, they don't have

714
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: the lineman you need out there. You can have a

715
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: million and one theories as to why that is. They

716
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: don't have them out there. You know where they have

717
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: them Mississippi. You know where they have them, Georgia, Louisiana.

718
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: They got them there, They've got them there. Let's ask

719
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: some questions. We've been going around the country because it is,

720
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: after all, spring, and I have it on good authority.

721
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me pull up my notes to make

722
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: sure it's right. So, Jesse, summer comes after spring and

723
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: then it's fall. Right, Yes, okay, So the season will

724
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: get here. We have twenty two saturdays between US and

725
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: college football season. But in the meantime, big questions in

726
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: the ACC right now, and some of them may be

727
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: on your radar, and some of them may not be.

728
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: Is Clemson's offense going to be better this year?

729
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: How much better? How much better? If you say yes,

730
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: how much better will it be? Because Garrett Riley when

731
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: he got hired as the OC there last year, I

732
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: celebrated it. I still think it's worth celebrating. But they

733
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: were ninety eighth in yards per play last year. Now,

734
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people who watched Clemson would

735
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: attribute that to the fact that they didn't have good

736
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: enough football players to be well, let me scratch that

737
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: be cause they should have been better than that with

738
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: their roster. They didn't have the football players on that

739
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: side of the ball to be at the elite level.

740
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: And I'm specifically talking about wide receiver. Now, I've been

741
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: on this Clemson wide receiver kick for a few years

742
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: with good reason, but Tyler Brown is a name that

743
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: excites me. There, Antonio Williams, a couple of freshmen they

744
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: got in there. They may be overhauling the type of

745
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: personnel that they have in that wide receiver room. Now,

746
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're going back to vintage mid to

747
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: late twenty teams Clumson quite yet, but I think that

748
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: room will be noticeably better than it has been over

749
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. Kay Klubnick, just limit the

750
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: turnovers offensively, just limit the turnovers. I think they'll be

751
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 2: better this year. How much better, I guess is my question.

752
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 2: What about Florida State. Florida State. Couple of things here.

753
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: So they've got a new look defense and they're losing

754
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: some wide receiver talent to the draft. Now on the

755
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: defensive side, this is wild. Now, Florida State, you go

756
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 2: all three levels of the defense. They're losing one hundred

757
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: and thirty five starts on the D line, ninety three

758
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: starts at linebacker, one hundred and one starts at dB.

759
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: I kind of still like what they have at dB.

760
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: I have a lot of questions about what they are

761
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: up front.

762
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: So that's number one.

763
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: Number two is I mean, what am I going to

764
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: get out of that wide receiver room. It's a big

765
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: time talent heading out. Kim Williams is down there and

766
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: he committed. Didn't even have to transfer him in. But

767
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, Keon Coleman, Johnny Wilson, it's very, very tough

768
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: to just replace the numbers that are walking out the door.

769
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: But in the aggregate, you can do it. You know,

770
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: it's a complimentary sport. And I implicitly trust Mike Norvel.

771
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: I think that became very apparent last year.

772
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: What about Miami? What about the dB position?

773
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: At Miami, it's one of the deepest rosters actually in

774
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: the ACC believe it or not. They've recruited well, they've

775
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: portaled well, but the dB position they lost Cam Kitchens

776
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: and James Williams safety combo there, and they lost a

777
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: couple of corners as well. Now, obviously they have, like

778
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: I said, recruited well, they will replenish through the portal.

779
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: It's also a program that I think is going to

780
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: be a very hot commodity after the spring, that post

781
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: spring portal window. So I'm looking at Miami in the

782
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: defensive backfield, I'm going to Chapel Hill for a second.

783
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm looking at North Carolina. Drake May's not there anymore.

784
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: So it's been a weird thing here. I'm not going

785
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: I don't know you North Carolina fans can decide how

786
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: you feel about this. Anytime you have a high level

787
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: like NFL type quarterback prospect for several years and you

788
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: don't win anything highly noteworthy, do you feel like it

789
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: was a wasted era. That's an open ended question. Like

790
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: I feel that way about Caleb Williams at USC. I

791
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys do or don't feel the

792
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: same way at North Carolina. But Drake May is gone.

793
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: So the O line QB combination is my question here.

794
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: The recruiting and portaling has not necessarily been at a

795
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: level that would indicate to me, oh, they'll be okay,

796
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: they'll be okay, they'll be fine. I don't feel that

797
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: way necessarily about North Carolina. They're one hundred and twenty

798
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: seventh in returning production, and basically what you have this year?

799
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: You know who the quarterback is in North Carolina. By

800
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: the way, anyone remember Max Johnson, the former lefty from

801
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: Texas A and M.

802
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: He's at North Carolina.

803
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: Now you got him, and you got an offensive line

804
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: that's having to replace one hundred and sixty eight combined

805
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: starts career starts?

806
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: Will they do it?

807
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: Time will tell? I also need to remind you, speaking

808
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: of transfer quarterbacks, Tyler Shuck, most recently seen at Louisville. Yes,

809
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck has not played more than seven games since

810
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, but if he can. We all remember that

811
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: stat that was floating around last year.

812
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 1: What was it, Jesse?

813
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: They were I should not have even started to say

814
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: this because I can't remember most of the stat Anyway,

815
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: the spirit of it was, you know, when Tyler Shuck

816
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: plays an entire year, his team can be pretty good.

817
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: Will he be able to play an entire year this year?

818
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: And also, I know you think offense when you think Louisville.

819
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: They don't have a bad defense. Their top ten in

820
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: returning defensive production, So maybe as they ease him into it,

821
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: maybe defense can carry the water a little bit for him.

822
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: They had to really work with They had like a

823
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: Syracuse schedule last year. Syracuse has got the Louisville schedule

824
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: this year, or a different way to say that. So

825
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: there's some acc questions. I always ask a lot of

826
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: questions in the spring, but how often do we come

827
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: back and give answers to these questions in December? And

828
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: this is just essentially me verbalizing my own show notes

829
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: right now, something I should wait to do until afterwards. Colin,

830
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: do we have that question about Arkansas?

831
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: I noticed?

832
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: I noticed back in the day we were accused of

833
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: being an Arkansas show masquerading as a national college football show.

834
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: As as one former viewer put it, I don't think

835
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: it was quite that bad, guys, but we have not

836
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: tald Arkansas in quite a while on the show, so

837
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: much so that it has raised some question question from

838
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 2: Fayetteville here. It seems like you've been avoiding talking about

839
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: Arkansas so far this year. Could you be sleeping on

840
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: us this year, my boy? Maybe? Or maybe I've just

841
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: been asleep. So there are a ton of what ifs here.

842
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: They're just a ton of ifs actually now you know

843
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: they brought Bobby Patrino back in, you know, do you

844
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: know that? Do you know that? Hmm? It seems to

845
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: me like with so many different things happening around the sport,

846
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: sometimes you don't just have the ability to draw in

847
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: the back of your mind every headline. So some of

848
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: you may have forgotten. And if you have, or even better,

849
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: if you just chose to take a little mental break

850
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: from college football for the last few months, and if

851
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: you're an Arkansas fan, it would be understandable. After all,

852
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: this is a baseball school. If you're just not checking

853
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: back in, it is my privilege, Nay, it is my

854
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: duty and my honor to announce to you that Bobby

855
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: Petrino is the offensive coordinator at the University of Arkansas.

856
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Robert Okay. Allegedly something happened in the past there.

857
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. Look, I mean, who can really trust

858
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: the internet? And so we don't need to go back

859
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: down those roads. He specifically doesn't need to go back

860
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: down those roads. And so the moral of the story

861
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: is there's a lot of what if tied to Arkansas

862
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: and you're asking me if I'm sleeping on them well,

863
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: here's what I've learned. What I've learned is do not

864
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: get overly optimistic by relying on yes is to all

865
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: the what ifs. Like for instance, offensive line was a

866
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: weakness of this team last year, which is inexcusable if

867
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: you consider what Sam Pittman's identity should be. If this

868
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: program's anything, it should be really tough along the line

869
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Well they weren't last year. Now, the feel

870
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: around the program, the feel around the fan base is

871
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: could be a lot better.

872
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: What if they're a lot better?

873
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: What if number one? What if number two they went

874
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: to Boise, they got a transfer quarterback Taylor Green. What

875
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: if he just blends seamlessly. It's a perfect match his

876
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: skill set Bobby Petrino's offense. That's something I could see.

877
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: Wide receiver groups shouldn't be terrible this year either. Tight

878
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: end group's one of the best in the conference. So

879
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: weaponry around you running back's not bad either. What if

880
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: what if we get dan Enos out of there? And

881
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: even though kJ Jefferson was an institution around Fayettble, what

882
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: if secretly we're kind of upgraded when we combine this

883
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: guy with the new guy calling the shots. Offensively, Hey,

884
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm willing to entertain that what if? And you notice

885
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: it just keeps on going. What if turnover luck goes

886
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: our way this year? What if injury luck goes our

887
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: way this year? Well, if all of that pans out,

888
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: you could be like an eight or nine win team.

889
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: Do we count on all that panning out? Is my question?

890
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: Because you see the exercise that's sometimes fruitless that fan

891
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: base is like to participate in, and I do too.

892
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: Is you start asking these questions in a vacuum about

893
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: one team, you never ask them about other teams. You see,

894
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: everybody on your schedule has this list of what IF's

895
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: in their head as well, and some of them are

896
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: going to get answers in the affirmative.

897
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: So some of those teams on your.

898
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: Schedule are going to end up on the plus side

899
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: more so than the minor side of the what if game.

900
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: And so you're counting on some of those as w's

901
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: right now, is my point, and they may not be. Conversely,

902
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: you may not meet all your what if benchmarks. And

903
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: this is speaking generically because this applies to every team,

904
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: not just Arkansas. It sounds to me from talking to

905
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: the fan base, which boy I did over at Hogsports.

906
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: In fact, just make sure Arkansas. Yeah, So this thread

907
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: is four pages five pages deep now over on the

908
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: Arkansas message board, and I don't even know if Trey

909
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: Biddy's chimed in yet. So imagine you can't start a

910
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 2: fire without a spark, and the spark on that board

911
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: is Trey Bitty weighing in. I mean, that's like hidden

912
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: lyrics in the Springsteen song. So it sounds to me,

913
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: if I am interpreting the spirit of this thread over

914
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: here on the board, right, it sounds like Arkansas fans

915
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: want a definitive outcome this year. They want a definitive

916
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: outcome in a sense that they overachieve. But it seems

917
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: to me like a lot of you are saying, if

918
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: we don't get like eight or nine wins, we'd rather

919
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: just bite the bullet and have another bad year, because

920
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: that doesn't leave anything in doubt as to what should happen. Now,

921
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Speaker 2: we see this a lot.

922
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: We see this.

923
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Speaker 2: We saw it with Brian Harson in his last year

924
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,600
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925
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,720
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926
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927
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,040
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928
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Speaker 2: so if you're not going to take us well above

929
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931
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932
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933
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934
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935
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936
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Speaker 2: But that's where we are right now. So no, I'm

937
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,279
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938
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,239
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939
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,319
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940
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941
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942
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Speaker 1: How does Sam Pittman know what.

944
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Speaker 2: They'd be right now? I don't know, but I was

945
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950
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Speaker 1: You know what we haven't done in a while around here?

996
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: We haven't done a mood.

997
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: Tracker in a while. And we're famous for the mood tracker.

998
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Speaker 2: If we're famous for anything, we're famous for the mood tracker.

999
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1000
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: we are famous for the mood tracker around here. Colin,

1001
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: here's a better endpoint for you. What is the mood

1002
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: around Michigan right now? The fan base? If we take

1003
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,800
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1004
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 2: what are people thinking?

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Speaker 1: What are you saying?

1006
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to say house money mentality is pretty

1007
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: much the mentality of every Michigan fan. Now this is

1008
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: b roll from the National Championship game if you're watching

1009
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: on YouTube, and that's May's and blue confetti raining down.

1010
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: Considered the storybook aspect last year. There's a bunch of

1011
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: guys who have been around for a long time and

1012
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: they stuck together. A lot of them had offers to

1013
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: get in the portal, they did not take them. And

1014
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: so you know, a lot of what you want to

1015
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: believe is Michigan, if you're a Michigan fan, was validated

1016
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: in winning that championship, winning the titles. One thing, the

1017
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: reason they have house money mentality there is you did

1018
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: it with your guy. I mean, you did it with

1019
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: a Michigan man in Jim Harbaugh. And everybody outside Ann

1020
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: Arbor detests that phrase. That's why it feels so good

1021
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: because you don't really care what they think, nor should you,

1022
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: Nor should you. Number two, you did it under immense

1023
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: public pressure, in spotlight because of the Connor Stallion stuff,

1024
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: because of the allegations of cheating. There is still an

1025
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: NCAA investigation ongoing that's due to wrap sometime by the

1026
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: year twenty thirty. And so as everyone turned up the

1027
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 2: spotlight on the program.

1028
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: It only made.

1029
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: Michigan play better, and that again validates everything you believed

1030
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: was the Michigan football program and a senior veteran laden team.

1031
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: Number three is just what I said. This is the

1032
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: reason it's house money. They're not taking that stuff from you.

1033
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: Like if anyone out there is waiting for the NC

1034
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 2: Double A to drop the bomb on Michigan, it doesn't

1035
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: matter if they do, and they probably won't, but it

1036
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: doesn't matter.

1037
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: If they do.

1038
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: I think we very much live in a more enlightened

1039
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 2: world as it relates to the NC Double eight. Never

1040
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: again will these people come along and take a banner

1041
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: down from your rafters, or take a page out of

1042
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: your record book and have anyone take it seriously.

1043
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: No one cares about vacated wins. No one cares.

1044
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: About you deeming a championship illegitimate.

1045
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: We saw it. I stood on the field in Houston

1046
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: and watched it.

1047
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: You guys paid more money than you could afford to

1048
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: to go see it in person. We all saw it,

1049
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: and it was done in storybook fashion, like the arc

1050
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: includes everything that you would ever want to make that

1051
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: a movie. So whatever happens this year, they've got last

1052
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: year up here they've got it in their memory. The

1053
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: NCAA can't vacate memories. Although it wouldn't shot me if

1054
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: they tried to, they can't vacate memories. You've got total

1055
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: house money mentality this year. You know that. Even if

1056
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: you go six and six, just.

1057
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: Pop in the replay.

1058
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: Just go to YouTube and type in Michigan Washington replay.

1059
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: You can get the condensed version. You can watch the

1060
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: full game version. You got fifteen alternate angles you can watch.

1061
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: It's there, it's never going away. And so when you

1062
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: have that in your back pocket, take it from other

1063
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: fan bases that have won one before. It is what

1064
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 2: it is. It is what it is. This week will

1065
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 2: be what it will be. So here's what's happening this week.

1066
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Speaker 1: I know we Genita.

1067
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Speaker 2: We don't have a drum roll sound effect. If you

1068
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Speaker 2: want to bang on the table really loudly in there,

1069
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Speaker 2: that would be a good substitute. I am wearing a

1070
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Speaker 2: white T shirt tonight because Janita requested it. We're down

1071
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: in Fort Lauderdale. Janita lives in the studio. Actually she

1072
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Speaker 2: lives in Fort Lauderdale, And so she said, why the

1073
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1074
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: me in the eye and said that last week that's

1075
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Speaker 2: how I remember it, and so I had to go

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Speaker 2: to Nashville to get the white T shirt. So it's back.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we're going back on the road again this

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Speaker 2: week the Pate State Speakers Series. Last week went to

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Speaker 2: three stops. This week, we'll make three more stops. We'll

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Speaker 2: have live shows on Tuesday and Thursday from different CAMPI

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Speaker 2: several weeks. But you know what we're gonna be Tuesday night,

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Speaker 2: we will be at the University of South Carolina. Tuesday night.

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Speaker 2: Shane Biemer will be on the show one on one

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Speaker 2: and we will get over there. I get to see

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Speaker 1: Brice Stadium. It is called the Kackaboos. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: If I had my way, we'd just do the show

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Speaker 2: from the Kakaboos, but I don't think from a technical

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Speaker 2: That's one of like five reasons they gave me, but nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: we will be live from Columbia, South Carolina Tuesday night,

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Speaker 2: That's all I got. I have got to get out

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.

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