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Speaker 1: What's up this way you put into Ye, I'm here

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Speaker 1: with my girl Jasmine Brand. You know how we do.

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Speaker 1: We already got young John feeling like, damn, what am

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Speaker 1: I getting myself into? How do we feel?

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Speaker 2: Fine? I'm feeling good. It feels good to be happy,

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Speaker 2: to be in great company.

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Speaker 1: So okay, See, he is so charming, just like we knew.

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Speaker 3: He knows what he's doing clearly.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I just love to hear about your journey.

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Speaker 1: Just doing my research on you and seeing how you

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Speaker 1: even got started in the music business is amazing. And

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Speaker 1: I want to ask, before you were doing music, what

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Speaker 1: did you think he would be doing?

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Speaker 2: To be understand, I wanted to play so card like

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Speaker 2: you know, I wanted to play football. I think I

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Speaker 2: was decent, pretty decent, you know. But then I went

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Speaker 2: to school, made a couple of friends, found ourselves in

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Speaker 2: the studio, started smoking week.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we helped him. Football is out.

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Speaker 2: The football brother was like it was they were just

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Speaker 2: at the studio every time. That was it.

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Speaker 3: So you're just in the studio, just playing around, hanging

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Speaker 3: out with friends, and that's what initially starts.

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Speaker 2: And so I used to like always make beats love

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Speaker 2: from my laptop, so like it was. It was kind

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Speaker 2: of fun at first. Then going to school, I realized

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Speaker 2: that people wanted the people need their beats. You know,

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Speaker 2: people were willing to give him money for What kind.

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Speaker 3: Of money were you making when first started.

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Speaker 2: I don't talk about, but like it made me realize

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Speaker 2: that there was value to it. Yeah, so then I

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Speaker 2: took it seriously. Then like a joke, I started working

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Speaker 2: with like big artias. Then I produced a couple of

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Speaker 1: That's so crazy to me that you could, like a

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Speaker 1: joke just start working with big artists. Were you How

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Speaker 1: good were you there at football?

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Speaker 2: I think I was pretty different, Like I was good,

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Speaker 2: like I used to go go you know.

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Speaker 1: Do it again now because you know people always be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna play in the NBA. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if I was so one thing about

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Speaker 2: me though, like if I put my mind so well,

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Speaker 2: I believe it. But I put my mind to anything,

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Speaker 2: I always find a way around this tomorrow somehow, like maybe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So then you started going to the studio. You

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Speaker 1: I got some beats for you. Sometimes that's also a

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Speaker 1: little intimidating when you're not so good, because when you

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Speaker 1: so at first you may not be as good, but

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Speaker 1: you got to build it up. Were you a little

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Speaker 1: nervous to approach people with beats at first?

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Speaker 2: So, to be honest, like being nervous was out of

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Speaker 2: three of us who first started rapp you know. Then

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Speaker 2: go to school. And I was like, you, he has

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Speaker 2: and said it doesn't matter, like just come. So I went.

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Speaker 1: What did your parents think about that?

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Speaker 2: Because my mom my mom was definitely know our people,

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Speaker 2: like I feel like she always knew like I was

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Speaker 1: I want you to be honest during this time in

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Speaker 2: No, honestly, I had no idea I was going to

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Speaker 2: then we're like, oh, this young boy producers, we like it.

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Speaker 2: She just I think you got it. So I started

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Speaker 1: The time, because sometimes you end up doing stuff or

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Speaker 1: sometimes even selling a bit, you think about what you

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Speaker 2: I was asked I was never going to put out

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Speaker 2: like I used to spend a lot of time by myself,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't really going for my studio sessions with all

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Speaker 2: lying around just on my laptop, like for nobody. So

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Speaker 1: You know, It's also the access that you had as

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Speaker 1: a producer to know that, like, these people really mess

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Speaker 1: got to know like if I want to do something,

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Speaker 1: Even the first song that really blew up was Data, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we got to talk about that because I'm trying

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Speaker 2: I was spoiling somebody depths to understanding, you know, so you.

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Speaker 2: When you know that song, I mean, like everybody's always

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Speaker 3: Want we want to know what we want about you,

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Speaker 2: To be honest, when I when I did that song, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Talking stages like it was deep. Like so you can

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Speaker 3: Multiple women talking stages, no talking stages, talking guy that

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to help you. So you were talking to

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Speaker 2: just about one quessions about like different experiences, their fish

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Speaker 1: So when the person that you like didn't reciprocate, was

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Speaker 2: What was yours?

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Speaker 1: That feel good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, funny enough. I'm like, it's it's fine, it's all good,

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Speaker 1: What was the first big placement that you had as

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Speaker 2: As a producer, it was a Lammi Day. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: We know who a Lami Day is and I know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so like he's the first really big artist that

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Speaker 2: we will go to this scribe will make music and

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Speaker 2: all die. But yeah, the first big placement was fourteen

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Speaker 2: Story for the Girls A Lammy Day. That's the first

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Speaker 1: How did you get the tag the wicked producer?

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Speaker 2: It was my friend was my friend. He was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: our friends I used to work in the radio. She

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Speaker 1: It, and that's a great tag. It's still like every

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Speaker 1: How is it different for you when you're working on beats,

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Speaker 2: So my process of creation, and I don't really say

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Speaker 2: I don't like to when I'm creating, I really don't

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Speaker 2: like to put it in my mind if I'm working

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Speaker 2: that kind of like I don't know, so I kind

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Speaker 1: You know, just make a dope beat and then exactly

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Speaker 2: Funny enough, most of my songs I never produced by me,

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Speaker 2: couple the ones you know, I like to when I

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Speaker 2: make it beat and I feel like, okay, this is

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Speaker 2: something I want for myself. A lot of times are

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Speaker 2: calling like new producers, you know, the new boys like.

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Speaker 1: That really you keep all the money.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 2: Know, I kind of just give them the idea that

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Speaker 2: they kind of like bring it to the new school vibe.

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Speaker 1: What is changing anyway in cha chack? Because the song

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Speaker 1: with a Sock that you have out right now is

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Speaker 2: You know what it make up on flick check okay,

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Speaker 2: good check, take picture check check is like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm pretty check that off.

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Speaker 3: We were trying to figure it out, we were it.

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Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like an affirmation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you know, like check check check check.

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Speaker 1: But if you double check it, it's like extra good,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about coming to New York to me, angel,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I feel like I wouldn't be you

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Speaker 2: When she dog like as a girl?

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Speaker 1: Ever cheated on you or did you dirty? Or broke

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They broke my like several times. Man, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 1: I don't want you just trying to get sympathy up here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Okay, if this would make it, I grew up really fast,

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Speaker 1: So he's telling the story.

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Speaker 1: Now you also signed a deal with Chocolate City. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, so, at the time, at the time, I was

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Speaker 2: And then we did it, and glory to God from

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Speaker 1: Like it was the right decision. Yeah, no, that's great.

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Speaker 1: What's part of the deal. Did they think that you

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Speaker 1: because that's something that they could use also in house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like, to be honest, I've not produced

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Speaker 1: You still want to produce like that?

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Speaker 2: like like I enjoy it, you know, like you know so,

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Speaker 1: Now what is blue disco?

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Speaker 2: Your blue discool? Blue discool is a it's a feeling.

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Speaker 2: Actually wrote a poem for Blue Dischool without share that day.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it, Are you sure? Yes? We

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Speaker 2: absolutely long ago.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, we have time.

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Speaker 2: I was keeping it for like, well, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me read for you guys.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear this poetry, ladies.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you hear it all right? So goes like this,

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Speaker 2: are you ready, yes, drum roll, okay. We rise from

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Speaker 2: concrete crack or bold, built from anger, gret and gold.

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Speaker 2: Chill swells, but we don't fold. We move and reading

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Speaker 2: Blue Disco, Long night's turn, long nights on with tireless breadths,

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Speaker 2: chasing dreams, defined, death, sweat and silence. Shape was next

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Speaker 2: grace in motion, Blue Disco. You came to field, but

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Speaker 2: now you know there's no escape from Blue Disco just

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Speaker 2: shadows words into to toe. So siep the dark and

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Speaker 2: embrace the slow scars and shine. We wear them boats

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Speaker 2: dancing true, the dust and growths. The climb is are

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Speaker 2: the pen is O, all becomes light are Blue Disco there?

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Speaker 2: This is no temple for the pure, but the broken

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Speaker 2: came yet to endure. The reading is rough, but the

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Speaker 2: pen is pure. A truth will dance to, not a kill.

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Speaker 2: So when they ask us how did we survive, we

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Speaker 2: say we danced, we bombed, and we stayed alive in

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Speaker 2: the wreckage where we find out glow or become slighter.

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Speaker 2: Blue DISCOO, I was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect. I mean, I don't know why didn't

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if you were joking, And then you

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Speaker 1: that gave us all this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's basically blue School.

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Speaker 1: So is that something you created?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so. My my brother and my friends

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Speaker 2: we are really into like this motion, you know, like

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Speaker 2: we really bring our es together to like make really Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's where this came out.

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Speaker 1: It's like whole feelings, like a vibe. Yeah, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, I can't even explain what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like you're saying, like the pain and

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Speaker 2: everything is what's going to make us into what we're

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Speaker 2: going to be, you know. So the disco is you know,

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Speaker 2: the disco is the dance, like the dances, the dance

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Speaker 2: of pain, the dance of whatever it is you're going through.

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Speaker 2: You just have to dance through it. And when you're

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Speaker 2: done with all of this, it's going to make you

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Speaker 2: into like that next version of you that you're supposed

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Speaker 2: to really be.

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Speaker 1: That feels like this needs some artwork to go with

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Speaker 1: it or something nice visuals I think you need Like

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie that you need like a blue

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Speaker 1: disco art show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that right.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of the rollout because the

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Speaker 1: project is coming out, Yes it is, So when is

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Speaker 1: the when is the release date for that next month,

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Speaker 1: next month, so everything's done to our next thing.

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Speaker 2: So I'm the kind of as an artist, I know,

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Speaker 2: a create problem for my team. As an artist, I'm

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Speaker 2: very very last minute spontaneous. Next week might be like

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Speaker 2: you changing, you know. Yeah, I'm open to like one ideas.

441
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Speaker 1: Do you have an exact date for the exact yes?

442
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 1: All right? And next month is in September or October October, okay?

443
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 1: And the title is it is blue Disco? Okay? And

444
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Speaker 1: do we know like guest appearances because I know you're big.

445
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 1: We have the ones we've heard.

446
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have Guru from India, we have Frankly from France,

447
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Speaker 2: so we have yeah, okay, you have a couple of records,

448
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Speaker 2: you know, and.

449
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Speaker 1: You're keeping some things under wraps.

450
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Speaker 2: Man.

451
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 1: I do like that cash Flow song though with whiz Kid.

452
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Speaker 1: Well we're talking about having a well I guess it

453
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Speaker 1: starts off with you talking about having a hard life,

454
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Speaker 1: but now you live sof and that's the standout line. Really,

455
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Speaker 1: That's how I feel like my life is. I'm trying,

456
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Speaker 1: although I feel like I still have a hard life.

457
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Speaker 3: Hard life is as hard as relative.

458
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Speaker 1: It's relative because a lot of things that you wish

459
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Speaker 1: for and that you work for and if you want

460
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Speaker 1: to maintain that. I feel like you never get to

461
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Speaker 1: where you want to be. It always feels like every

462
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: time you get somewhere, there's like another level unlocked.

463
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Speaker 2: That's a valid point, but you look like you're living that.

464
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: Chanel says, otherwise, Oh, this is fake.

465
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 3: It's not.

466
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Speaker 2: It's not. It's not.

467
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Speaker 1: I mean it is, but I will say that it's like,

468
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Speaker 1: but you know, and Jasmine will tell you it's true.

469
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Speaker 1: I work all the time, and I'm sure you do too. Yeah,

470
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, like you're probably always in the studio, on tour,

471
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: on the road. You know, poor you. You haven't had

472
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Speaker 1: time to really settle down in a relationship. You got

473
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Speaker 1: your heart broken fourteen, right, Like, I've been treat but

474
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Speaker 1: I do feel like sometimes we're like when do you

475
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: feel like, like, do you feel like right now you've

476
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 1: made it?

477
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 2: Made it to the big wood. So I won't say

478
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: I've made it, but like, yeah, I see like I'm

479
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: better than where I was yesterday and keeps getting better

480
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: and but I keep walking. I'm definitely one D. I'm

481
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: going to see it. Yes, I made it, but.

482
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: You're not there.

483
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 2: Yet far from it, I promise you.

484
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: When do you think you'll know? Like what is there

485
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 1: a space where you're like this is when I know?

486
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I wouldn't know it to like

487
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Speaker 2: to until you get there.

488
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Speaker 1: I guess you don't have like a you know, a

489
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: goal that's like once I have X, Y and Z,

490
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: or once I can Who was it that was telling me?

491
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: They said the fact, oh, Sierra was like I can

492
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Speaker 1: pay all my bills. I don't even to think about that.

493
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so like so there is it's it's don't

494
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: know me that this is now much more bigger than money,

495
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: because if we're talking about money, yes, I feel like

496
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Speaker 2: there's nothing I really want so bad that I kind

497
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: of you know, but it's not really about that because

498
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: that's even after I made so much money in the past.

499
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: I've been on the road for three years straight doing

500
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: shows a rope like, so the next thing I can

501
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Speaker 2: see it compared to before I made like money, you understand,

502
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Speaker 2: but like it doesn't kill that feeling of like I

503
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, like that oh it's not it's

504
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: not done yet, so like I know that, Okay, there's

505
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: still a long way to go. So it's really not

506
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: about the Money's probably like the satisfaction that comes with

507
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: like it's in some particular personal goals and milestones. And

508
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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe when I don't know, maybe some

509
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: day when they start referring to me as one of

510
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Speaker 2: the greatest artists that come out of the continent, maybe

511
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: that's saying that.

512
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Speaker 1: Yes, I like that. That's some people are scared to

513
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Speaker 1: say things like that and put it in the atmosphere.

514
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: But that's a great that's what you should want to achieve. Yeah,

515
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: for people to say you are.

516
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: The when it all said, and remember jigg like you

517
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 2: cannot put him like under the road, you know, because

518
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: some people always want to rewrite the street. But there

519
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: are some names that are too big too.

520
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: You know, you think if you were going to play

521
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: football right now, you still be any good?

522
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Speaker 2: I mean I think so.

523
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: How them long pull a muscle?

524
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, because I still play football every week.

525
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.

526
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: That's like my goals goals.

527
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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you so much for joining.

528
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Speaker 2: Us, really loving me so much fun Okay, good.

529
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Speaker 1: I'm glad. Next time we're gonna pressure you harder when

530
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: the album comes out because I know we're going to

531
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Speaker 1: get some more gems, but thank you. We appreciate you.

532
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Speaker 1: It was very enjoyable save me here, Thanks for having

533
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Speaker 1: me all right, young John