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Speaker 2: wearing these new age headsets as Josh Pate Josh pay

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Speaker 2: College Football Show on YouTube's getting all sorts of love

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Speaker 2: of press from ESPN and all these big shot platforms.

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Speaker 2: It's you know what we we knew a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago. At the volume, We're like, get more Josh

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Speaker 2: Pate on our podcast. So let's start with this. Miami

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Speaker 2: gets seven and a half against Indiana. I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: it's almost like one of those with Saban, like you

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Speaker 2: just you would just take Sab inside. They'll just beat

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Speaker 2: somebody badly. I'm gonna go the other way because I

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Speaker 2: thought Indiana would handle Alabama cultural blowout and they'd handle Oregan.

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Speaker 2: I think Miami will disrupt their offense a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think they are very disruptive. I think Indiana wins.

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of ugly and low scoring. But

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Speaker 2: I don't see thirties and forties for Indiana, do you.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think we're pretty solo in this car, but I'm

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Speaker 1: to further the point, what it all boils down to,

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Speaker 1: is number one. Do you think Miami can play their

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Speaker 1: number two, do I think for the first time and

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Speaker 1: seemingly forever, someone can at least stagger Indiana, Someone can

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Speaker 1: at least make them throw something other than the fastball, because, like,

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Speaker 1: if you think about it, everyone who's faced Indiana on

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, like you think they got to

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Speaker 1: both sides of the line of scrimmage that at the

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Speaker 1: very least could do that word you just used, At

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Speaker 1: the very least you can make sure Fernando Mendoza doesn't

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Speaker 1: get into that zone he got into against Oregon, because,

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Speaker 1: Nobody decided the NFL was beaten Indiana in that mode.

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Speaker 1: So the other thing about them is they're so efficient

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Speaker 3: You're right, though, I'm rolling with you.

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Speaker 1: Not only did I take Miami to cover, I think

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Speaker 3: So I actually took him to win the game.

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Speaker 2: Out right, I am. I don't think Signetti should go

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Speaker 2: said that. But college football coach now, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: Let's get six to twelve guys from the portal. You

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Speaker 2: can do that. So that's why I think Kyle Whittingham

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Speaker 2: So I think Signetty's a college guy. I think he's

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Speaker 2: He's got Mark Cuban money. Am I wrong on that?

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Speaker 1: Anywhere in the college game, so the NFL will be

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Speaker 2: When you know, I said, this week I did. It

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Speaker 2: Now that's interesting. And you would know, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: interesting because and I kind of predicted this two years ago.

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Speaker 2: I said, the Big ten has bigger schools, a bigger

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Speaker 2: They go. Let mean you go to La it's Michigan

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Speaker 1: I think it's possible. Here's the caveat to that. What

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Speaker 1: of it was Miami and they're about to play for

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's beating their chest chanting ACC Monday

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Speaker 1: to believe probably overall, eight is equality of play, edge

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Speaker 1: If it's like a Texas, I could see reclaiming that crown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the you know, the Lane kiff and stuff is funny.

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Speaker 2: He can't stay off X. You know it's I'm one

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Speaker 2: of the disadvantages I've always said if I was competing

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Speaker 2: don't like I like watching games and not having a

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Speaker 2: and I'll take notes on a notepad. I'm very old

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Speaker 2: school about that. And I look at Lane and part

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Speaker 2: of me thinks Lane on the Internet's great. Lane on

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Speaker 2: X is great. But I can see it. I can

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Speaker 2: see it blowing up, Like, are we sure Lane LSU

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Speaker 1: Look, it's kind of like if you look at the

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Speaker 1: in need of quarterback, you're gonna have a QB one

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Speaker 1: not like a buyer beware, it's just a buyer be aware,

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to Miami, Indiana. So Carson Beck playing

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Speaker 2: He's not Mendoz as a Sunday prospect. It's not close,

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Speaker 2: but he's made big throws for George and a couple

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Speaker 2: to actually outplay Mendoza in that game.

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Speaker 1: One on one, No, like like shot for shot. No,

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Speaker 1: because remember the A and M game. I think No,

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Speaker 3: In the Ohio State game.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a legitimate weapon for what he is, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty eight yards passing, But I legitim

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Speaker 1: just I don't have overinflated expectations set for Carson Beck.

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Speaker 3: So I thought that was a game in his wheelhouse.

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Speaker 1: And then you feel like his legs were a weapon

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Speaker 1: So he is certainly not gonna make the wow throws

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Speaker 3: Oh Wild, pretty wild?

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Speaker 2: Tell me?

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Speaker 1: Just like all the Sunday hype, it kind of it

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Speaker 1: watch him in person. So Combine's gonna be fun to

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Speaker 1: watch with him, but I don't think so. But also

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Speaker 1: because it's just a bunch of Mark Fletcher falling forward,

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Speaker 1: two plays or something like that. Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: Carson Beck shot man. If he's throwing the ball forty times,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami makes too many mistakes in my opinion, too

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Speaker 2: many penalties. They'll turn it over, they you know, they're

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Speaker 2: just there's there. It's almost like when you have a

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Speaker 2: just let him play. And I feel like with Miami,

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Speaker 2: with all that talent, you gotta let some of it

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Speaker 2: just play. Indiana has a lot of three and four

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Speaker 2: But Miami's got so much in length and power, you

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Speaker 2: this with Caleb Williams. I'm not getting paralyzed by his

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to Mendoza when you saw

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Speaker 1: HIM i, mean, Look i'm not a quarterback coach or

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Speaker 1: Playoff how many times do you see a quarterback justifiably

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Speaker 2: and bought one good receiver and hit in a couple

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Speaker 2: of high school. Guys is that most of the guys

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Speaker 2: that LEAVE i tend to think the core of your

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Speaker 2: program if they're, productive the school's taking care of. Them

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Speaker 2: it's like the third defensive lineman At georgia who probably

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Speaker 2: doesn't have the motor of the first. Two Kirby smart's

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Speaker 2: tired of him and he's not getting a, love and he's,

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Speaker 2: Like i'm gonna go To i'm going to go To

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Speaker 2: Michigan state and be a star LIKE. I the thing

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Speaker 2: about the transfer portal is buy outside of, quarterback where

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Speaker 2: there are bidding wars for most. PLAYERS i THINK i

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Speaker 2: think you mostly keep your corp BECAUSE i don't think

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Speaker 2: it's like anything. Else you learn as you. Go, yep

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Speaker 2: AND i THINK usc has looked at it and, thought,

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Speaker 2: man we have spent way too much money on way

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Speaker 2: too many guys that didn't make an, impact and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna spend it now on like rush end star receiver.

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Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i kind of think it's all getting a little.

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Speaker 2: Better but the, Problem josh is the stuff that you

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Speaker 2: read about the big paydays freaks everybody. OUT i kind

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Speaker 2: of THINK i think it's kind of GETTING i think

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Speaker 2: it's coming to its conclusion of being the wild Wild.

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Speaker 2: West that's my.

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Speaker 3: INTERPRETATION i agree on a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Fronts, okay first, off just, legislatively they're gonna figure something.

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Speaker 1: OUT i don't know which which ramp they're gonna get off,

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Speaker 1: on whether it's anti trust exemption or whether IT'S. Cba

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Speaker 1: they're gonna figure something. Out status quo will not. Remain

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Speaker 1: that's the first. Thing the second thing is what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about on more ground, LEVEL i agree.

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Speaker 3: With and there are a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Big experiments happening what you've. Mentioned one of these programs

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Speaker 1: already in THE, sec and That's alabama And georgia are

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Speaker 1: both dead set on recruiting top five classes out of high. School,

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Speaker 1: yeah and then spending a vast majority of their nil

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Speaker 1: money reinvesting in the guys they. Recruited, yeah and they're

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Speaker 1: they're supplementing via the portal and there they're. Backfilling, conditionally

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Speaker 1: their blueprint is still very much based in high school. Recruiting,

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Speaker 1: now we're still sort of on the frontier of figuring

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Speaker 1: all this stuff out and figuring out like what's the sweet,

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Speaker 1: spot which way. Works but one of the BENEFITS i

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Speaker 1: think Of indiana doing what they're doing right now is

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Speaker 1: it feels like everyone's always chasing a model at any

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Speaker 1: given point in, broadcast in, media in, sports everyone's chasing a.

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Speaker 1: Model it was The patriots for a long time in the.

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Speaker 1: Light and so there's one positive Of Kurt signitty doing

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Speaker 1: what he's. Doing i'm not saying anyone's about to duplicate

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Speaker 1: When indiana's. Done but if there is a set of

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Speaker 1: basic values and, principles you're trying to recruit aim out

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Speaker 1: of high school and reinvest in them and.

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Speaker 3: Development And i'm comfortable with that kind of college.

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Speaker 2: Football, YEAH i saw that with THE usc they signed

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Speaker 2: thirty four high school. Kids it was a massive. Class all,

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Speaker 2: right quick. Trip what's the, latest?

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Speaker 1: BUDDY i just ACTUALLY i went there the other, day

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of cold Brown tap because there's not

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Speaker 1: one right in my.

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Speaker 3: Backyard Sometimes i'll.

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Speaker 1: Overly load up on the cold brew AND i was

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Speaker 1: literally drinking it out of this bottle, here SO i

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Speaker 1: didn't even plan it that. Way they have fueled our

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Speaker 1: tour the entire. Year they let us go courtesy of

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Speaker 1: their fuel pumps and their cold Brown tap to college

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Speaker 1: football games coast to. Coast it's been a really really good,

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Speaker 1: partner and they're about.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 1: Man they speak college football, fluently just like we. Do

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Speaker 1: and it is a big blessing to have them along

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Speaker 1: for the.

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Speaker 2: Ride that's a blessing to have you as, Well. Buddy

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Speaker 2: congrats and all your.

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Speaker 3: SUCCESS i appreciate. It going

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Speaker 1: The volume