WEBVTT - Bonus* Conversations About Heroes and Villain

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealers Podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>low glasses, Malone, what you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do to yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Dug. I have nerve damaged nerve in my elbow, so

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<v Speaker 3>and I reached back and I hit it on the

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<v Speaker 3>side of this chair and that fucking hurts Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 3>and it catches me. I do it every you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a week or two, and every time I do it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like obviously you don't see it coming, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like fuck it, just it just burns like all

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<v Speaker 3>Hell's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Fih, how'd you mess up the uh the nerve into

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<v Speaker 2>your shit?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the stupidest story in the fucking world. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>was it. I remember this shit. I was in the

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<v Speaker 3>eleventh grade at Oris County Championships track meet doing the

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<v Speaker 3>high jump and I got off badly. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>like knocked you know the bar that comes down if

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<v Speaker 3>you hit it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just like.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew I got off bad so I just jumped

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of knocked it backwards and then landed like this.

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<v Speaker 3>But I landed with like all my weight and my

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<v Speaker 3>arm bent and like straight like on the bar. Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I went like elbowed to bar first and

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<v Speaker 3>just pop, And I was like, it's been like fucked

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<v Speaker 3>up for twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they said it was supposed to grow. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if there's nerve nerve tissue on the on the

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<v Speaker 3>nerve cell or scar tishe the nerve. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what the problem is, but it's like too, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like surgically damaged, like requiring surgery. It's just like some

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<v Speaker 3>stupid thing that's either like I don't have really good

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<v Speaker 3>feeling and like the outside half of my hand and

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<v Speaker 3>if I hit it, it's just still fucking hurts. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the stupidest thing, and it's like the stupidest of even

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<v Speaker 3>for me. This is stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>So so it makes you know, it makes your nerve

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<v Speaker 1>super sensitive to some degree.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like it's it's it's your funny bone nerve whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So while functionally at its ends here, I'm like this,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's less sensitive where it's supposed to be, but

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<v Speaker 3>hitting it where the problem is hurts a hell of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is just you know, hit this side just

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<v Speaker 3>got that kind of whatever feeling for a few minutes

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<v Speaker 3>to hit on the other side of fucking burns.

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<v Speaker 3>iHeart and we got a good one dropping tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a cool Yeah, that was a fantastic podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>And Jobs is awesome. That guy so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love telling him all the time, Like I love Jobs, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>because Jobs are such an intelligent person and and.

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<v Speaker 3>The way talks is great. Like I feel like it

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<v Speaker 3>would be the fair thing to do for it to

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<v Speaker 3>like just have to give him my spot.

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<v Speaker 2>On this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I thought about it. Jobs is so dope, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh he called me to h were hitting back real quick. No, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I liked him. He asked me to do intellectually Patty Jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>We on the live stream right now. We're on my

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube on our daily last stream Monday, Wednesday and Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>me and Pete and we were just talking about hope

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<v Speaker 1>you are, bro, you know what I'm saying, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just singing your praises.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, apologize somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah Jobs, we the thing about the people I pride

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<v Speaker 1>myself and hanging around there all intelligent enough, nobody would

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<v Speaker 1>be offended at all. Like nobody minds the intellectual push back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fair and you should be able to stand on

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<v Speaker 1>your principles if they're genuine principles you stand on. So

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<v Speaker 1>Nah Jobs, No, it ain't none.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that, bro. I'm always pead.

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<v Speaker 1>He brought it up, and I'm like, I'm always proud

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<v Speaker 1>to create content with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I need to give him my spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like jobs, and so we're gonna see the link

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<v Speaker 1>to the to check it out. But it go live tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna stay on you about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Monday, Wednesday Friday at noon, I'm gonna see you link.

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<v Speaker 1>Say you can look at it all, right, Uh so

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is sending me early birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>My birthday is tomorrow. Shout out to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Shout out to girls sick, Shout out to mister

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<v Speaker 1>green k Ancient Echos, Eugenie wash Up player, shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Philly Marshall. I don't even want to get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>bro like that that. I know the headline is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit loose, but I don't even want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I'm so upset. I've been telling everybody when

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<v Speaker 1>they let when they let this stuff happen to Diddy

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<v Speaker 1>unfairly like that, that this could be the triggering effect

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<v Speaker 1>of people, you know, fighting financial wars, were just in

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<v Speaker 1>a bad time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even that's not even my thought.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did use the title, you know, knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>that was a part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Jews, smirk. I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that, bro, that that is hurting my feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>My man, fast, what's up, baby?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the deal?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the real thing we need to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>is are you a day cruise on your guys trip

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<v Speaker 3>to Tulum to celebrate your birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Squishy, thank you for the ten dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good birthday lunch. Appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I love you. I need your help.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, we gotta go over that stuff we was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about as far as that great idea Pete was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna make sure I get with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to King Tell What Bro, Just Mitch, Kevin Finley,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for the ten dollars. What's up y'all, eight glasses,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to seeing you on the community. Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>be having me dying laughing. Y'all be saying some real

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<v Speaker 1>shit though, salute bro. What's funny? Is keV?

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<v Speaker 2>I be so serious? Cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to realize that my homies are immaturely poking

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<v Speaker 1>fun at my seriousness of thought. Like I don't ever troll,

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<v Speaker 1>but they joke and bullshit all the time. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm thinking they're making me the joke. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Craze, yo, cuz what were man? We

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<v Speaker 1>about to pop it? A couple of things was on

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. Definitely ain't talking about bs though. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to just Miss thank you for the twenty dollars. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the birthday gift as player.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tomorrow again. We're gonna go up. Thank y'all, Thank y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>thank y'all. Let's get into these conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So somebody, it's a good one. Vegah yo, glasses. We

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<v Speaker 1>heard that, Pete. Want to catch that fade with Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Peter squad shows? Yep, bro, who's Andrew the comedian? Who

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<v Speaker 1>you've never heard of? Andrew Schultz the comedian.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna look him up.

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<v Speaker 2>He does the he does the podcast with Charlottmagne. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that guy. He's a really famous comedian.

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<v Speaker 3>Yay, I'm bad with names. I'm I'm really not professional

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to any human beings names.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, appreciate it, Thank you everybody. I got

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<v Speaker 1>money on Pete. Peter Squabby up, Peter Squabby up about that? No, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>Shulty is somebody I consider like. I like Schultz. I

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't get into that thing much. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to say that type of stuff about people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially so what he said. I'm only gonna give it

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<v Speaker 1>this much energy, but I'm not gonna give it a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of energy. Because Schultz is a comedian, so his

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<v Speaker 1>job is to be funny. So comedians take a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of risk at being funny. It's weird when you so

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<v Speaker 1>he was he there's a line in Kendrick Lamar's song

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<v Speaker 1>in the Uh and the song that the first song

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, I'm drawing a cold blank uh damn, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I came the song. Yeah, whacked out murals,

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<v Speaker 1>Damn whacked out murals. And he has a line where

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<v Speaker 1>he says, never let a white comedian talk about black

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<v Speaker 1>woman as law.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're not gonna like me?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, sure, but again that's a that's a person,

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<v Speaker 1>stands right and that's fine, Like that is a man

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<v Speaker 1>and he should have that stance if he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>have that stands right. So Schultz took it as if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a shot towards him. I guess based off

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<v Speaker 1>some things he was saying about Kamala, which you know

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<v Speaker 1>he could have found out and asked questions. But yeah, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>So Schultz responded like, yeah, Kendrick mayroll with a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Of gangsters, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it was just me and him, if we

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<v Speaker 1>were in a cell, I would make love to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said it like like I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>the term he used was forcefully or it was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>he could do about it, insinuate it would be like

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<v Speaker 1>talt to some degree. Now at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it was him trying to be funny that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's funny. You know, people we don't play

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<v Speaker 1>about like yeah, you know, like bad and opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>heater sexuality. That ain't something we play with it. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't really talk about that. That's a serious thing. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't allow people to say that about people if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. So my thing was I just didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was that funny. But long as you understand what

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<v Speaker 1>comes with funny could be a fight. That's my whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get into the whole thing of your privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a comedian, you know what I'm saying. Whether I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was funny or not, he's a comedian. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get into that whole you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>all that extra black We ain't gotta talk about blackness

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<v Speaker 1>with this, because I know that that's your job to

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<v Speaker 1>try to be funny. My thing is this man may

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<v Speaker 1>do something to you when he see you. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, like it may come with consequences, and

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<v Speaker 1>because that may, as long as you okay with it,

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<v Speaker 1>don't suing. You know what I'm saying, Don't sue, don't

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<v Speaker 1>yo squabble up. You know what I'm saying like this,

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<v Speaker 1>don't stay. And that's my point why I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. But it became a big thing on black Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's why I only take potshots at comedians and

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<v Speaker 3>rappers who are under five eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>And you gotta you gotta, you gotta pip your balance.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just so I let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even get into it cause it was like

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<v Speaker 1>I know Schultz, you know what I'm saying, Like Schultzer

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<v Speaker 1>see man and he always been good to me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And again if he says something I thought was wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I would get on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it don't matter if we okay or not. But

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was your temper being funny. I don't think Cud's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna find it funny. That's the point, Like I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Dot somewhere on an it looking like

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<v Speaker 1>this funny like that is weird. That was like, hella weird.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of being funny. It's more so like

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<v Speaker 3>it's playing that kind of And again I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to speak for the guy because I don't look, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what you're thinking when you say the thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? But I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of playing that murky gray area where you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of want to, you know, say something, but you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of want to say it. So it's funny enough to

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<v Speaker 3>where you can say, oh, I was just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>be funny, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I don't get the humor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not my job. I let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>I said one thing about it was like, man, DoD

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<v Speaker 1>Willa beat your ass. That's what I told you, thatd

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<v Speaker 1>gonna beat your ass. Like are both those.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys really because Doc pretty is little, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>No, DoD is about five to six, Schultz about six

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<v Speaker 1>men and Schultz almost the same mind. Shots might be

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<v Speaker 1>my hype. He's a big tall guy. He's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big guy, but you're a talk guy. But that ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna matter. Like it's like an animal, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean an animal.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want you to sue him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want you to sue him. That's it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you.

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<v Speaker 3>What's interesting is it puts Kendrick in a position to

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<v Speaker 3>leverage the new jay Z accusation and sue him.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, I don't even want to, Oh man.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be a really funny table turn. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>sue the white guy for the sexual assault thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>response to the perpetual sexual assault accusation thing going the

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<v Speaker 3>other way, we're gonna pull a three dimensional chest one eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even get into all of that. Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not even minding this madness that they talk

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<v Speaker 1>about because I told y'all as that if we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>stand up for Diddy like did, he should be charged

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<v Speaker 1>based on actual crimes. I said, they would keep finding

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<v Speaker 1>other brothers to do this too. This is a business

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<v Speaker 1>tactic and a business negotiation. I said that people will

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<v Speaker 1>use the court and the law. And the problem is,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless whether Couz come out on top, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>lose business.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to fuck with his business.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's where I was gonna go with this. This

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<v Speaker 3>is all the result of a precedent said by chicken

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<v Speaker 3>shit expediency thirty years ago. It became cheaper. Look just

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<v Speaker 3>settle signing and day stuffing under a rug and move on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cheaper. But what that does is it enables the

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<v Speaker 3>process to perpetuate.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even finna even get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody says something to me on Twitter and it blew

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<v Speaker 1>me away, right, and I get it on Twitter. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to everybody that that show love on Twitter. All

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<v Speaker 1>of social media is because you know, again, I try

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<v Speaker 1>to I don't know if you guys notice is if

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<v Speaker 1>you follow me on social media. I really carry myself

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<v Speaker 1>very standard, Like I won't speak to anybody. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if you have three followings. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>you have three followers or if you have three million followers.

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<v Speaker 1>I treat you the same. I never really. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>ignore voices. The point of hip hop is giving a

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<v Speaker 1>voice to the voiceless. So I don't ignore voices. I

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<v Speaker 1>hear you. So I will speak to people and I

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<v Speaker 1>laugh about things that I think is funny. I ride

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<v Speaker 1>with my homeboys, right, Like, let's say, this whole battle

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<v Speaker 1>that DoD had going on, I'm riding with dot that's

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<v Speaker 1>my man.

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<v Speaker 2>No question, I know him.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's weird when I have people come to me

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll say man, glasses, like like you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're glazing, Kendrick. So glazing is a is a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a geek term. It's a nerd term that's used

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<v Speaker 1>on the Internet in response to saying like you're dick writing.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody h you're dick writing. That's kind of discussions like

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<v Speaker 1>the nerd term glazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it inspired this live and he said, uh. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a list of people saying obviously they're they're fans

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<v Speaker 1>of the owl, they're fans of the hour, they're part

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<v Speaker 1>of the parliament. A group of ours together is called

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<v Speaker 1>a parliament. So whenever I actually say parliament, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, like, I'm referring to anybody that rides

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<v Speaker 1>with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Isle the Owl. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So a guy posted a list. His name is jas

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<v Speaker 1>not Online. Shout out to Ja's not Online. It says

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<v Speaker 1>the Fantastic four of meat writing. Can't help with cringe

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<v Speaker 1>when these pages pop up on my timeline. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>hommy Screwface, John Busby, Lovely and Rye and a lady

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<v Speaker 1>added at g Malone and hit a J three in

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<v Speaker 1>there m and who.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that lady? I have had one person ever n

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<v Speaker 3>box me on Instagram with hate mail, which had to

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<v Speaker 3>be a result of the show, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>who the fuck's this lady? And I looking like the

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<v Speaker 3>only common person was you. So I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>must have been aware of me from the show or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, but I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to and then we met the internet showing

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<v Speaker 1>support aka equals glazing Nigga's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>These boys these days. To these boys, I'll tell you, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't understand that you're there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight friendship there, right, So when people say something negative

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I'm sure they want my attention, so I

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<v Speaker 1>give them my attention. So I'll go to their page, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to this person's page and I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking and their whole page is dedicated to Drake. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole page is dedicated to the Owl. The whole page

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a nest, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Just our shit everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like to myself, like, like, Doc Kendrick is

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<v Speaker 1>my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not like a rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy his albums like I buy his albums

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm just supporting a friend. But he's my friend, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's the difference. Like I buy his albums because

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<v Speaker 1>he's my friend. Then I ask him to sign it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make him sign this, this painting over here

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner, I'm gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like I get to watch my friend, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>carry on places in this business that all of us

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<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily get to, Like I get to cheer him on, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And he's my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm super supportive of him.

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<v Speaker 1>People on the net don't even know anybody there's a

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<v Speaker 1>port of So how what in the nerd logic would

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<v Speaker 1>make you think that I would be consistent with glazing

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<v Speaker 1>somebody when this person is somebody I can call on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. I could call him on the phone right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you pick up the phone and I have him on

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<v Speaker 1>his live talking.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you called the owl and said, hey, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you feel about this person here on Twitter or

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<v Speaker 3>such and such heat and typical owl form say who who?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>So like whoever that person is? As like this man

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't piss on you? Like so it's weird that And

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<v Speaker 1>I've noticed that logic, right, and that's what made me

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<v Speaker 1>title this lot this stream that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I've truly became the villain for being real.

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<v Speaker 1>We're supporting my partner.

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<v Speaker 3>I think these other fans look at like the two

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<v Speaker 3>people in question, and then everyone else is just a

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<v Speaker 3>fan like them. So they're just kind of like jeering,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, section six in the arena because they're in

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<v Speaker 3>section one and that's the away team and they're the

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<v Speaker 3>home team and whatever, and there's not like, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>actually a coach. I work with him Monday through Wednesdays.

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<v Speaker 3>If he hurts his ankle, this is bad for all

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<v Speaker 3>of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't get me wrong, I understand why the streets

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<v Speaker 1>in the net don't cross.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what separates the streets from the net is the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Specifically, what up, Geno, shout out to my boy Geno,

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<v Speaker 1>boss hill Up. What separates the streets and the net

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<v Speaker 1>is the streets. You have to be accountable for the

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<v Speaker 1>things you say.

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<v Speaker 2>The Net.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be accountable for the things you say.

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<v Speaker 1>You are allowed to say what you want to say

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<v Speaker 1>and not be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you saying that the Internet is one giant hairshop.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because the hairshot, somebody could get up out of

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<v Speaker 1>their seat and smack you in your face.

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<v Speaker 3>I just mean that it's a haven for femininity.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Sure, I'm not disagreeing with that either. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've heard other people, even from the streets say, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard people in the streets say the Internet is

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<v Speaker 1>the new streets, and I'm like, it could never be

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<v Speaker 1>the streets because the streets you actually have to be

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for things you say. Yeah, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for the things you say, So that becomes the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>But I noticed, like in this time, like right, the

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<v Speaker 1>more the more hip hop I become, right, I become

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<v Speaker 1>more of a villain, Like I noticed that. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure y'all go to the podcast tomorrow. It drops

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple Podcasts or iHeart Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 1>your podcasts. Bro, it's a really great podcast about gangs.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna allowated for We're gonna elaborate further on

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation Wednesday on his Live but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really great conversation. And I noticed how people see crips.

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<v Speaker 1>I notice how people see me even when Tupacmas died.

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<v Speaker 1>Since that day, I've truly entered a stage of villainy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think hip hop and it's genesis is an all.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an ally to the few and the villain of

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<v Speaker 3>the many. Yes, that's that's a countercultural perspective in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I noticed the more I embody the spirit

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<v Speaker 1>of hip hop, especially you know West Coast hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people call a gangster rap, I am a true villain.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'll say, like I'll laugh. I posted something on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter bro about Drake when Drake was at funk Master

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<v Speaker 1>Offlex and he was picking up his BlackBerry or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>or like, I'll make Tupacmas die, right, I'll make anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's nuanced. I could laugh, and people immediately are offended.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what's offensive. I really won't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's offensive. Like I swear to God, when I see

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<v Speaker 1>Tupac must die to this day, when I see Tupac

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<v Speaker 1>must die to that day, I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>people are mad at. I really don't get it. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get why they could, they could be sad,

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<v Speaker 1>but why the fuck are you mad at me?

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<v Speaker 3>It's similar to what we were talking about, Like post

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<v Speaker 3>show yesterday. People don't want to hear a message that

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<v Speaker 3>they don't like, so immediately it becomes about the speaker

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<v Speaker 3>and not the message.

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately shout out to Revenge's glasses, I've been on my

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<v Speaker 1>village shit shaking my head.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nobody's friend. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what if I got to be your friend

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<v Speaker 1>in exchange for being like a fraud, Yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>your friend neither, so I could.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where it's at.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just noticed the more I become hip hop,

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<v Speaker 1>the more I become a villain like and you're right

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<v Speaker 1>it like pop is a friend to a pop is

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<v Speaker 1>a friend to all, like, but when you become hip hop,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like ally to few and a villain to all.

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<v Speaker 3>That is crazy, sure, I mean it's born of and

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 3>representative for the minority of a minority, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You you never realize how much Like even listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Homie yesterday, I never realized what people think of crips. Sure,

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>they really feel like crips still purses, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a standard crime that poor people commit all over

0:24:55.400 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the world, But somehow it's been attached to cripping, even

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<v Speaker 1>like the conversation that we had when it came to

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>selling drugs, Like that's not associated with gang banging. That's

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>associated with people trying to make money. That come from

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>well really people trying to make money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just threw me away.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed it and this person was mad, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like they like, like I'm actually putting.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit on their timeline that makes their day bad.

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Like like I love Scarface, Scarface, No, I love Scarface, Scarface, No,

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I love Scarface like I love Scarface the rapper, Like

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 1>this is one of my like like, man, everything to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna defend no goofball shit he did.

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna love the parts that I love.

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 3>And if someone came online it says Scarface the most

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<v Speaker 3>overrated rapper in Houston hip hop history, I wouldn't even

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna you might debate it, but you're not gonna

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.239
<v Speaker 3>go sulk damn debate it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you said Scarface is whack, I wouldn't even talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I just know you have bad taste in music.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have a soul. Shout out to two K

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<v Speaker 1>grind on nine. I didn't even know Glasses had a

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<v Speaker 1>song called Tupac must die. I go off titles. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even listen to this song seeing a title. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Two K, I don't know why. I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't know why. I don't understand why, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>what about that title, like even being the villain now,

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<v Speaker 1>like when that that title is poetic. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw the tweet, but I didn't get what

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<v Speaker 1>about the title, Like that is not how you speak

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<v Speaker 1>about somebody that you wish ill to.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a linguistic tie between must in this context and deserves.

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<v Speaker 2>To no just who's on Twitter?

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<v Speaker 1>So I get why that could do that, But this

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>guy sounds like it would be a play to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I me just like within the language, it's really

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<v Speaker 3>hard not to not for those two shoulders to rub.

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<v Speaker 2>Should should have been why Poc died.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe like Tupac had to die. I don't know. It depends,

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 3>like it's hard to say or why I killed Pac

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 3>or something like that. I mean, I don't know, there's

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 3>a there's a million different ways. I mean, it all depends.

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 3>It's to the ear of the beholder. I guess you

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<v Speaker 3>could say.

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<v Speaker 1>In that regard, shout out to Lucky Lawrence being a

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>diehard Tupac fan, I actually get the concept of too.

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's really a simple concept to.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 3>The story of the streets. It's not even the story

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 3>of Tupac's it's the story of the streets via Tupac.

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, or or him being involved.

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 3>So here's it's using him to illustrate the principle.

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like here's a perspective.

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is this is the perspective of somebody

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>that comes from the culture that I come from, having

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to issue out this level of you know, justice.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And even to an all time great.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>So like even when people said two Pac months die,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they thought to themselves, that's my opinion, which

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't even be how a cripple said. But like

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the idea is made in first person. So again it

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>goes back to that point where we was, where we

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>always debate. We always debate if people are stupid, and

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, I think people are distracted. You know,

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>what's something else that distracts people emotions? The emotions is

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>something will distract them from garnering what could be information

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to be taken in, like the emotions of things. So

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that's why I don't think people stupid. I just think

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>they're really distracted different things, and some distractions are greater

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<v Speaker 1>than others.

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, both are true. There are distractions. People are distracted,

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 3>and they're stupid and the more.

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<v Speaker 1>Really and I think that's you know, I think that's

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>where our bond is, our bond is relay.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 3>I think people there's there's a certain thing that people

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 3>if they're not incapable of learning, it's such an uphill

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 3>battle to get them even to the point where they

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 3>can learn the thing. Then it becomes and sometimes like

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I bump into stuff like that, like I'll try to

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 3>research something and I'm like, this is so far deep

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 3>into some sort of abstract physics or I but by

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>the time I figured this out, the momental of past,

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, it happens. There's and then then there's just

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 3>thousands of people who are entrenched in that industry and

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 3>they understand it like they understand pouring a glass of water.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not that guy here.

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<v Speaker 1>Just watch that Tupac Must Die video. It's a great concept,

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>good concept project.

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>It is dope. It came out dope. It was really dope.

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to fast Pac died with Lord, Yes he did,

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>and he died or rider.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.479
<v Speaker 1>That's that's how you're supposed to go out, if you're

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna go go out, you know, standing up for something

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you really believe in. Shout out to Demo Radio, thank

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you for the five dollars. We really appreciate that.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Brodie.

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<v Speaker 1>If you or not idealized idolized pac you have a

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>hard time digesting that song, I don't know if you

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>really should, Like, I don't know if you really should

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>if those two things have to be mutually exclusive. Like

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess idolized is a big extreme, so maybe not.

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really idolize people, so I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what the definition of that word is. Like

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>like I think you like, like treat them like Jesus

0:30:54.280 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>probably so, you know, but again, like, how do you articulate.

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Fuck man?

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean you idolize him because he made a brand

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<v Speaker 3>based off of being the realist guy out there, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the ultimate.

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<v Speaker 5>Reality he embraced that and you were mad and guess

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 5>you not that guy, but like other guys, no, and

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 5>his brand was able to That's why it works so

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 5>well after he passed away as well, because it was like, oh,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 5>this guy legitly was on that time.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Shout out the name brand right or wrong. I'm a

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>squabble with my bro and tell him later if he

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>was wrong. That's how we do a name, you know what.

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Dante eighty six. Uh man, I've never

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.239
<v Speaker 1>seen you at the lunch table, but I'm glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrong, we all are are programmed by entertainment. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment great entertainment really heightens and condenses a topic. It

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to two K grind Kendrick should have left

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<v Speaker 1>that Mad Niggas beat alone as well. He just made

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>me want to hear the original. That's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>tough That's gonna be a tall task I'll do. That

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>made Niggas song was fire. Shout out to Addne Bruce

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>reincardinated was the hardest shit ever.

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<v Speaker 2>It is hard. That is true. All these things are true.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Juice.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we're not really supposed to be interacting with

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the other fan base at all.

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 2>We have no common ground with them.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>They don't like or respect none of our hip hop

0:33:56.040 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>black core values. You know what's fun. I don't really think, Okay,

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna sound crazy. Let me prepare, let me

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>christ I don't think Cuz has fans the way you

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>think he has fanatics. I think people are naturally fanatics

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>of success, right. I think people use pop people to

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>make sense out of their own life. But I don't

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>think it's like this separate fan base, right. I don't

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's just separate fan base Cuz. Like I don't

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>think a Drake fan and a Kendrick fan are far apart.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they offer something different. And again, if you

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>see it as just music, then no, none of this

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>makes sense to you. Only if you identify right with

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody's movement. Obviously, Drake makes great records. I had the

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>same conversation with Ronald. Shout out to my little brother,

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Green Junior. Drake music is dope, Gee, I've told

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>him this, right, Like, I don't think people come to

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>hip hop. If you come to hip hop for great music,

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>you don't know shit about music. I would never listen

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to hip hop for great music. I would go listen

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to Marvin Gay, very white musicians. Right, I wouldn't listen

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to hip hop. I come to hip hop for culture.

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I always knew it, even if I didn't understand it.

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>That's why, naturally, I don't care about people's music that

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>makes surface topics when it comes to the lifestyle. Like, right,

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I could like a song from you like I like

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Vanilla Ice, but I didn't buy the whole Vanilla Ice album.

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I like different people who rap, but I like you know,

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't get into the albums. Drake is one of

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the most talent people. Talented people I've ever met my life.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the greatest record makers I've ever seen

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>in my existence. But I don't really listen to a

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of his music. Not that it's not good, it

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>just really don't represent nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think with a lot of like his fan base,

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 3>he puts out a lot of music, and it's usually

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 3>like good time associated music, you know, so they probably

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, a lot of his songs. They like the songs,

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 3>they like the environment in which they're listening to the

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 3>songs at the time. I think they don't want to

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 3>people to get to be given an excuse to like

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 3>effectively like shame them out of listening to Drake because

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 3>they associate all their fun times with hearing like this,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Like the soundtrack of their lives is damn near like

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Drake songs, you know.

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to the name Brian Kendrick and Drake philosophies

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>are polar opposite.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but.

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't quite know either's philosophy. And you know

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>what I mean when it comes to the record, Like,

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know either's philosophy per se. Nah Drake fans

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>shout out to adding Aar Bruce Man, thank you for always,

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>thank you for always supporting the Lunch Table. That means

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot to me, Like we really set out to

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>do this dope stuff, you know what I'm saying, and

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it is a really commitment. Some days I do not

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like rushing to get up here and get on

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>his live stream. I don't, contrary to probably believe, I

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>don't like talking you feel me like I really wish

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to say some of this shit that

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to say to get people to understand certain things.

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>But God tasked me to do the job, and I'm

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna love doing the job. So I love being here

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>for y'all. And but I just want you to know

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the commitment. So Addam Aar Bruce Na. Drake fans exude

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a consistent amount of anti blackness. This is why this

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>is the only rap beef that immediately became a cultural war.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a culture war because the owl

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>does at rep present a culture. I don't think that

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 1>out represents a culture. I think again, like people who

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>like Drake, they like music, or they like records, or

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:18.240
<v Speaker 1>they like success, or they like the or they feel like, see, okay,

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>there's this weird.

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Shit happening where people have declare war on the streets.

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's admitting it, but it's happening where everybody is looking

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>at the streets like you know, other black people, Like

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I heard Oracles say some shit the other day, like

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>where people don't consider it the black story, unles, it's

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a hood story, no, because without the struggle, without poverty,

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>without oppression, what the fuck would make it black? Just

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>your skin. If black people are acting like white people,

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>is that a black story? Like a black person goes

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to Beverly Hills every day and nobody mistreats him, Peter,

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>if nobody mistreats him, what makes him black?

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>This is a weird question. I get it. It's hell of.

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Endless question. That's the parallel question to Drake. That's the

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 3>parallel question to the Nigerian American experience. It's all of that.

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Spot the doc. We appreciate that five dollars.

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>My boy, it's a day before my birthday. I'm feeling

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>player good lunch. Internet acting like Kendrick is a pump

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 1>because Sheltz is tall and bots before. It's funny. We

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know what he does and it's free time. I

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what that shit's about. That all that

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>None of that stuff mattered, Like you know what I mean,

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Like you just gotta be okay with dealing with the

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>things you say. That's how I look at it, Juice,

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.879
<v Speaker 1>we're polar opposites. G You don't see how they talk

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>about culture, samples, traditions, and et cetera.

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Then people hate hip.

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Hop, bro, Nah, they just feel rejected, you know, what

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's different when you feel rejected, you know

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, it's different when you feel rejected,

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not about I don't think they hate hip hop.

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I think they feel rejected.

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Everybody wants a part of something that seems cool, you

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And a lot of people to

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>me that came that learned about hip hop or they

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>grew up in their existence learning about hip hop, especially

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>like what came through Drake. Are people that feel like

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>they're not that hood or they're not that street, or

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>even subconsciously, whether they admit it or not, they questioned

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>their blackness. Like even like I said when I was

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>listening to Jael White talk like without like experience, the

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>black experience can happen to anybody. Me and Cherry has

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 1>argued about this on Live. Shout out to my sister Shery.

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.879
<v Speaker 1>We've argued about this on Live. The black everybody can

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>get the black experience. Mexican people can get the black experience.

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rican people can get the black anybody. Hell, Irish people,

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Italian people got the black experience. People all outside of

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>European English white men have gotten some level of black experience.

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>The thing that makes this different. Culture.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, this is my own definition, y'all could

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>take it and run with it. Experience is how people

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>treat you. Culture is how you treat other people. That's

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the trick. So I don't think there's a cultural war,

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>because on that side, there would be no culture.

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>It's really the culture versus.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>The mainstream, and that's what's really been going on in

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:18.240
<v Speaker 1>hip hop this whole time.

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:21.959
<v Speaker 2>Dante eighty six, go ahead. I'm sorry, Pete.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get the sense that, like the Greater Drake

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Machine was anti black so much as they were just

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 3>lacking in degree of lack of a better word, just

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 3>to be expedient blackness relative to the Kendrick Machine, and

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 3>the Kendrick Machine was like you've been sidling up over

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 3>here for quite some time. I'm just gonna give you

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 3>a reminder that you're over there.

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was kind of just Yeah. I don't get

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 2>anti blackness.

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a bit ridiculous, but I get how

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>it could come across that way. But it's only because

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>people feel out it. They feel like, oh I'm not again.

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:06.439
<v Speaker 1>It's that same conversation that's been happening where I think

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.919
<v Speaker 1>there's a group in a very huge population of black

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:14.879
<v Speaker 1>people that feel like their ideas are being ignored for this,

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, minute group of people who are going through

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>this stuff.

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:19.720
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's different Dante eighty six and actual cultural, cultural,

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.839
<v Speaker 1>and psychological world viewers at play here. It's deeper than

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>just music for music sakes. I agree Dante, like, I'm

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>not disagreeing. I genuinely think this is the same thing

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that happened to rock and roll like and I think

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>honestly it started with Kanye, Like, I think Kanye started it.

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 1>That's how we get to Drake, That's how we get

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to Jack Harlowe, right, I think that's where it starts at.

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>But again, it's a really deep and nuanced conversation, and

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>we would have to be honest, We would have to

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>pull away emotions and have the conversation, and that's the

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>hardest thing for people to do. Obviously, I made two

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Pacmaths die like I didn't. Even when you use one

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 1>negative thing about Tupac or disrespect him in the song,

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>people still made me the villain. So I don't know

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>if that's a conversation that could be had at any

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>mainstream level, even on No Sinners Live to lunch out.

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I would be worried about can y'all deal with the

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>emotional side of declaring maybe somebody we all love may

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>have not been.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Good for the future of what this thing is.

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to my brother Fat, thank you for the

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>two dollars, Fats, and I know that mean a lot.

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Bro, I appreciate that boy for real.

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you like fast, vanilla, good, gorilla, rap geet, Yes,

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you could rap. I could hear the culture bleeding off

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>of everything you do. Shout out to revenge. I agree.

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>At first it did win points around the women. I

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>like women. That's how it started on Drake Fire. I

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 1>can respect that social currency. You know you're gonna play

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>with the with the O's light, with the O's light.

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I think Drake and Mitzi makes music for women, like

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 1>hanging with women dot his culture completely agree.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 3>I'll stay a while back, guys were only listening to Drake. Well,

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 3>the girl was in the car. What's the guy to

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 3>the car?

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Dep Chester Shout out to the name man, I don't know, Gee.

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I think Drake's culture is the uncultured nerd that grew

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>up now gas, money and power that's because they're uncultured.

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>That's regular America. It's no culture in that. That's what

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's never been the culture, y'all. Y'all missing

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. It's not two groups of people.

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:32.800
<v Speaker 2>It's the world.

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>It's us against the world, me against the world. Drake

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 1>is the world. That's the regular world. And then you

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 1>have what Kendrick is doing, which is like niggas feeling

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>like they're oppressed and complaining about being oppressed and talking

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:52.919
<v Speaker 1>about these traumatic experiences. One traumatic experience is a dude

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.399
<v Speaker 1>talking about getting shot at or being in the middle

0:44:55.440 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 1>of shootouts or losing sixteen friends. Drake's traumatic experiences living

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in the basement of a Beverly Hills house. Uh you

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like yeah, like not wanting to

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't know who to invite to his bar mitzvak.

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 3>It's just different people don't appreciate how traumatic certain things

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.439
<v Speaker 3>in life can be. Like for Drake, if he goes

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 3>to Starbucks and orders a soy latte and gets regular

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 3>milk and he's lack of some tolerant that's gonna ruin

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 3>the rest of his weekend.

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 2>And it is devastating. It's so traumatizing.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.879
<v Speaker 1>If hip hop feels therapeutic to you, you probably need

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a psychiatrist. That of course, that's hip People in the

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 1>ghetto are poor and cannot afford a psychiatrist. That's why

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the microphone becomes their therapist. Yes, that's the point.

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Uh shout out to Bam.

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but do you think Black Americans that have a

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>struggle can have a Black story?

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Bam, and and I'm glad you asked that. Bro.

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like.

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yes, black people around the world can have

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a black story.

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Right. But again, if your story is.

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Exactly like mainstream American story, then how much of a

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>struggle or how much of a story is unique about it?

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's not a black story. I'm saying

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>at that point, it's standard. The thing that makes the

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>You gotta remember, the hood story is not exclusive to

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 1>black people. The gangster story is not exclusive to black people.

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just a rarity in the United States of America.

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 1>It's very minute percentage population. The people that live this

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>street urban experience, and they're not just black people, you

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But again, if you're asking the

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 1>mainstream world to see identity in people that's darker than them.

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Then I think that's the problem. I think, and that's

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>to me where even my heart and to be honest,

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>where I came from. When I first start talking about Drake,

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I realized what was happening to hip hop, what happened

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to rock and roll is going to happen to hip hop.

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>You start finding people that the business makes sense. If

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you can get a white man that plays a guitar

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>really well, he will make you more money than a

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>black man that plays guitar really well because white people

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>can see him and identify themselves in him. It would

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>be really hard for them to identify themselves as somebody

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that they know they couldn't be now either person. They

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be either one because one guy that plays guitar

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 1>will probably worked his ass off to play the guitar.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>But for sure they know they can't beat this nigga.

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So regulate this, huh.

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a little more sinister than that.

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'll be trying to give everybody a Benefituary

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be sinister.

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, for sure, they like, I couldn't be

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 2>this nigga.

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So again, it's like that's why they start to finance

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and white musicians in these spaces because it's more money

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to be made, right, And it starts with the first

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>thing I remember is Kanye beating fifty cent in that

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>sales competition. That was regular people defeating the streets at

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>their business. So guess what The next step is a

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Jewish guy that can use the nwork.

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 3>And to me, I think people are making the things

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 3>a little closer and one dimensionally on a spectrum, like

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 3>like Drake's Starbucks coffee and Kendrick is Cuban coffee at

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 3>the gas station. Drake is Starbucks coffee and Kendrick is

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 3>riding the five am bus to work without coffee. Like

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 3>it's they're not even Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 3>not a coffee conversation.

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.959
<v Speaker 2>It's not even polar opposites, you know what I'm saying.

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Mark give one of the Day one

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>supporters and no slings the podcast. He don't even be

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>tripping off the lives. Happy birthday, Gee, thank you for

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the ten dollars. Mark is tomorrow, but I appreciate it

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 1>because I know we ain't doing a live I really

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it.

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Bro.

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Again, what made hip hop great, bro is hip hop

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>gave a voice to street urban culture. They're okay black,

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>middle class Black experiences have been on television since television

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>just about existence, right. So it's like even in the

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 1>eighties and the nineties, you had THEO Huxtable, you had

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:39.399
<v Speaker 1>the young suburban Black experience, you had Willis, you had

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the suburban young Black experience, you had Eddie Winslow, you

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>had the suburban young Black experience. There was no space

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 1>for poor black people's story. Like the closest you could

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>have got to it was like like good times, you

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, where at least a mother and

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 1>father was there. And again, remember when JJ was even

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to be a part of the streets, like that

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>shit was like not happening. So again, the streets in

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>this ghetto and this poverty and the white people organize

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and speak and dress to bring value to their own

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 1>life and said community, you feel me? Like that didn't

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 1>exist until hip hop. Hip hop gave that a voice.

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>It was the only thing that gave it a voice.

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.319
<v Speaker 1>And then that voice became so loud and people fell

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>in love with it, just like they fell in love

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>with The Godfather or any other street urban lifestyle.

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Al capone, you know what I mean, the untouchables.

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>What's the two serial killers that everybody the man and

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>woman that everybody want to be but they don't know

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>they serial killers, Bonnie and Clyde.

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 2>This this street.

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Urban underworld had. The street urban story has always been praised,

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But it is rarity. But again

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you get regular white stories to go with that. So, yes,

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 1>there is a black story. I'm not saying that there's

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>no black story in suburban black America. There is a

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 1>black story. I'm just saying it's not normal for it

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to be told. Sure, it's not normal for it to

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 1>be told.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of the human experience that ties

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 3>an interest in all the things you just listed as

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 3>far as like those type of stories or different groups

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.279
<v Speaker 3>of people or whatnot is I think regular people are

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 3>burdened by the reality of having something to lose that

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 3>could be at risk, and they are fascinated by the

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 3>concepts of people who are not burdened, like who act

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 3>in the freedom to take on great risks and have

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 3>the courage and have the circumstance that warrants having that

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of courage and freedom to make a decision on

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 3>your own terms that most those people are too confined

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 3>in their own But I don't want to fuck up

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 3>my creditor, you know what I mean. Like people fantasize

0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 3>about waking up one day and being able to go

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 3>do whatever the living hell that they want and having

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:12.280
<v Speaker 3>the courage to do so, and those things provide a

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 3>glimpse in the the world of people who live that way.

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Ravens. Yes, it can still be a

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 2>black story.

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 1>That was weird glasses so successful celeb kids can be black,

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not a good story for them.

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Really, Look, sure story a black story.

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure they have a story. Yes they have a story.

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes they have a story.

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 1>But again, like let's let's really, let's really pot Okay,

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what we hear, we hear after the hour,

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So if you still hear, that means you at your desk,

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>we could get into the real conversation.

0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 2>What is black? What is black? Okay?

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>What is blackness without struggling? What is blackness without people

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>mistreating you?

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:11.440
<v Speaker 2>What is blackness? At that point?

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Like, what are we saying blackness is you know what

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying? What are we saying? Like like, what is

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>soul food without the seasoning? Like like, can you make

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a soul salad? What does a soul salad taste?

0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:33.879
<v Speaker 1>You know why there can't be a soul salad because

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a fucking salad.

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a salad.

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 1>You already have a better grade of of of of

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of vegetables, like you have a great tomatoes. What's not

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>in soul food? Lettuce, especially romaine lettuce is not in

0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>soul Crueltons are not soul food items.

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 3>That's why Drake sold so well. He provided in a

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 3>unique and kind of anti or ill you know I

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 3>say illogical, but like an antithetical way. All those other things.

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 3>You take the struggle out of it, then it's really

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 3>just words, just diet music, you know what I mean? Yes,

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 3>and you're just talking about basic whatever that anybody can

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:27.719
<v Speaker 3>happenstance into. So it provided a lot of people an

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to feel included in the thing that they otherwise

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 3>would be excluded from.

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Adam A or Bruce Nothing. Blackness was

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 1>literally born in struggle. There is no blackness without that.

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>It's the remembrance of it, even when you become successful.

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to my brother Geno. Yep, blackness is a reaction.

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It is a reaction. It's not something you just born

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in Black. That's why African people don't really have to

0:54:56.600 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>pride themselves in being black, because they're already priving themselves

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and a tribe.

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's a cheap he gives people a cheap degree.

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 3>It's I don't have to endure this struggle. But we

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 3>can talk about how we both like the strip Club

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:18.320
<v Speaker 3>and Konnak. So now you can feel a part of

0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:21.240
<v Speaker 3>it by just having this glass of kognak.

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And and and revenge. This is where we disagree at.

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Drake is not a suburban Black story. Drake is a

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>is a Jewish story. It's not a suburban Black story.

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a Jewish story. That's the trick. Like I'm not

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 1>denying that that man is a brother, that man's a brother,

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:46.319
<v Speaker 1>but his story and culturally he's raised as a Jewish man,

0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 1>he went to Jewish schools. His story is a Jewish story.

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Every black person doesn't have a Black story. They have

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a story, but blackness is something unique and is not

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 1>something that just passes through DNA. It's about things that

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>are happening in this world you don't hear because talk.

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 1>He said, the first time he witnessed racism is when

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 1>he came to America with black outlets and like and

0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Tyler the Creator is not as suburban as you think

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 1>because he's from Harthorne.

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:21.439
<v Speaker 2>It's a really unique thing.

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hawthorn is an interesting town.

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a really different thing.

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>And he's a skater, so again the street urban culture

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 1>is different, so it's they're not the same. He's not

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:36.440
<v Speaker 1>quite like Tyler the Creator. Tyler the Creator was raised

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 1>as a black kid in Hawthorne, his area of Fairfax.

0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 1>He's raised as a black man. Drake is a Jewish

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 1>man raised in Canada. He was raised Jewish.

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 3>That's the difference for like the Angelino locals, there's a

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 3>big difference between growing up saying like Lati Hera and

0:56:56.760 --> 0:57:00.800
<v Speaker 3>going to Westchester High School then growing up in Canada.

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:07.360
<v Speaker 1>But shout out to Dante, blackness without struggle, obviously in parentheses,

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 1>struggle within the context of this white supremacist society would

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 1>equal our liberation and we ain't there yet. That wouldn't

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>equal blackness. At that point, you would assimilate into mainstream

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>American society, so there would be no need for blackness.

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>There would be no reason to group these people together.

0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 1>If the struggle doesn't exist, why would you group people

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:34.920
<v Speaker 1>together at that point? Now you just a regular mainstream American.

0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. Shout out to Geno Boss. Black

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 1>is the ability to create food from a pig's foot

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and ox's tail or intestines. That's American slave culture, right.

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 1>We call it black culture based off of most American

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>slaves or black That is why it's called soul fool

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 1>or blackfood. The struggle, what the hell could how would

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you saw up a salad? You wouldn't sol up a

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you can't sold food up a steak. It's too high

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 1>end of a meat.

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 3>That's like like I was texting the other day. Wealth

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 3>is a QTc synonym for surplus. You aren't eating a

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 3>salad if you're calorie starved because you've worked for fifteen

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 3>fucking hours and don't have a lot of other shit

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:31.320
<v Speaker 3>on the plate. You know what I mean.

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Gino. Let me go through some of

0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:41.919
<v Speaker 1>these comments. Shout out to Mario Paulo. I've been thinking

0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>about this, bro, and welcome back to the nunch table

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I sent you here before. Isn't hip hop kind of

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>exclusive to the American street urban culture experience? The music

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:53.959
<v Speaker 1>for African street urban culture doesn't necessarily classify as hip hop.

0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Now this is way past I think it should. I

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:03.200
<v Speaker 1>think that would be there. I'm probably not the person

0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>to answer it once you get out of these boundaries.

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 1>But again, Toronto, I would consider Toronto street urban culture

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to be hip hop as well.

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Like me.

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Now, again, you could go to some elders who be like, nah,

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 1>this is only an American thing, but I would imagine

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody has everybody's ghetto is being ignored, So I don't

0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 1>think it would really be much of anything else.

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I think there's been a lot of time in space

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 3>within the greater hip hop experience, depend more regional than

0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, universally speaking, but where like Jamaican dance hall

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 3>has been very much a part of that. You know,

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 3>you hear at the same club depending on you know,

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:41.400
<v Speaker 3>there's a certain lot of crossover there.

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to revenge, Oh I digress. You got to

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 1>get a black suburban man to tell me that. I'll

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:51.400
<v Speaker 1>find you one, but I don't. I don't think that's

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the point. I don't think it's about him telling me

0:59:54.400 --> 1:00:02.520
<v Speaker 1>what it is like. Again, it experienced, really doesn't that

1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:07.440
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't that probably won't make you black. Like I

1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:11.280
<v Speaker 1>get it that that's what people rely on the experience

1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:14.640
<v Speaker 1>of how white people treat them. But again that's the

1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:19.280
<v Speaker 1>confusion because white people mistreat not Peter White, Pete's Italian,

1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 1>but English white people mistreat everybody, including Irish and Italian people.

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:26.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's much more deeper than that. Shout out to

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:31.240
<v Speaker 1>steal here. Drake just happens to be half black, that's all. Again,

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 1>what is black black without the culture? Experience almost doesn't

1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:38.840
<v Speaker 1>matter the race itself. If race was a real construct,

1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:43.320
<v Speaker 1>would be negroy right. The nationality will be whatever country be,

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Canadian culturally and ethnically, he'd be Jewish.

1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:52.320
<v Speaker 3>We wouldn't be having this conversation if Drake was raised

1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:55.439
<v Speaker 3>by his dad in Orange Mountain, we wouldn't no, no,

1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:58.880
<v Speaker 3>and Kendrick wouldn't be calling him out for having an

1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:01.120
<v Speaker 3>absent white mom when he was raised by his black

1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:03.400
<v Speaker 3>dad or nobody would say that.

1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Juice, thank you for that ten dollars,

1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:08.640
<v Speaker 1>My boy, Them folks are way more anti hip hop

1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and flirting with anti black than you're nicely giving them

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<v Speaker 1>credit for.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather stand from rejection or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, But if rejection happens, I don't know if that

1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:20.960
<v Speaker 1>makes somebody anti something, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know if again, like.

1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 1>If you beat up a kid every day, right, and

1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:33.560
<v Speaker 1>then that kid for the rest of his life is

1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like fuck you, he never want to see you again.

1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:39.440
<v Speaker 1>That don't make the kid anti you? Does that make sense, Pete?

1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 1>And if you see a kid every day or you

1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:47.720
<v Speaker 1>tell a kid they can't come in here every day,

1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, and you you you feel

1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:53.800
<v Speaker 1>like you're mistreated by this kid every day, and then

1:01:54.040 --> 1:01:56.120
<v Speaker 1>now for the rest of your life, you don't want

1:01:56.120 --> 1:02:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to see that kid. Yeah, I don't quite know if

1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that makes you anti the kid or the kid anti

1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, the person that's being abused anti the kid.

1:02:09.160 --> 1:02:16.880
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know what that guy's really referring to personally,

1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know if there's a whole subculture of

1:02:20.560 --> 1:02:23.280
<v Speaker 3>people all over the internet who are like Drake fans

1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:28.640
<v Speaker 3>that are like blaming Black America for the recent challenges

1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:32.720
<v Speaker 3>of Drake's career, and he's responding to that because they're

1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:35.440
<v Speaker 3>lashing out and bat out of shape. That might be

1:02:35.520 --> 1:02:36.480
<v Speaker 3>very much the case.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

1:02:39.560 --> 1:02:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Know what he's talking about, but for those two sentences.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to revenge. So no suburban black experience exists today.

1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:50.960
<v Speaker 1>As I said, hood black has cornered the market. So

1:02:51.080 --> 1:02:53.960
<v Speaker 1>all black suburban kids floating in space on the hood

1:02:54.040 --> 1:02:57.280
<v Speaker 1>black perspective matter, huh, because the suburban black story is

1:02:57.280 --> 1:02:59.440
<v Speaker 1>still way different from the white we are kids of

1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:03.560
<v Speaker 1>game banker. Once you said that, that loses it. Once

1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you tie in the culture, that loses the point. That's

1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:10.280
<v Speaker 1>why I'm saying, it's not that that's different if it's.

1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:10.800
<v Speaker 2>In your house.

1:03:10.840 --> 1:03:12.440
<v Speaker 1>If the culture is in your house, it don't matter

1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:15.480
<v Speaker 1>if it's outside your house. If it's in your house,

1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you pretty much fucked revenge, you one of us. If

1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it's inside your house, it don't matter if it's outside

1:03:22.520 --> 1:03:25.640
<v Speaker 1>your house. Like again, imagine like the culture as a

1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:29.240
<v Speaker 1>palm tree, like right, Carson is not necessarily the ghetto.

1:03:29.440 --> 1:03:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Right the Delamo area where DJ head from Jason Cash

1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a reason A. So you know what I'm saying, that

1:03:38.320 --> 1:03:42.280
<v Speaker 1>is not the ghetto. But because the ghetto is within

1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:46.280
<v Speaker 1>five miles, they had to have a response, right, So

1:03:46.400 --> 1:03:49.479
<v Speaker 1>they created a gang. And the culture is right there

1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:51.960
<v Speaker 1>in this what you would call it a suburb. They

1:03:51.960 --> 1:03:55.360
<v Speaker 1>will kill you in Delamo, they will murder you there.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel me.

1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:59.520
<v Speaker 1>So again, it's not as simple as the hood. And

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<v Speaker 1>then if you say your father or you're raised in

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<v Speaker 1>a house with gang members, your parents made good and

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<v Speaker 1>now they move you to the suburbs, you still culturally

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<v Speaker 1>are tied in. It's when the culture doesn't exist at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's when there is no access to culture. The closest

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<v Speaker 1>access is online. That's when it's different. Now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>quite know how you would define it as a black story. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes just the experience of being mistreated for being black.

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<v Speaker 1>But then at that point everybody can have black experiences

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not English white. We're not saying something different.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you. If the culture is in your house,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the culture. If the coach is outside of

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<v Speaker 1>your house, you are the culture. If the culture is

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<v Speaker 1>at your school in masses, you are the culture. It

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<v Speaker 1>just pretty much all go together. So you will get

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<v Speaker 1>baptized in seasoned and flavored by the culture, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what you do. Shout out to Adam A or Bruce,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank y'all for the contribution. Please keep popping it at

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<v Speaker 1>the lunch table. It's a great conversation. Blackness is only

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<v Speaker 1>one person on the block paid their electric bill, but

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to this court, everyone has electricity. Speaking Juice, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Disagree with this take through laughing out loud? Black is black?

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<v Speaker 1>Laughing outllow y'all more so describing hip hop right now? No,

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop is street urban culture personified through the arts.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm asking you, Juice, what is blackness without the struggle?

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<v Speaker 1>What culturally would be considered blackness without the struggle? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what would be blackness without the struggle? It probably would

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<v Speaker 1>just be mainstream American at that point. Name Marin black

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<v Speaker 1>is if a white woman clustered her person next to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's happened to me a lot, That is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>some black I got way more money than this lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Spot the Doc. Thank you for that

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars. Again, we appreciate you. Brodie Man, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>y'all showering me for my birthday. Man, we wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a birthday party to Wednesday. But we appreciate all

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<v Speaker 1>the early gifts. We're gonna get some great lunch this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Drake making fifty thousand dollars a year at fifteen on

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<v Speaker 1>the grass, he doesn't resonate for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>when he said, that's the hell of a bottom. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a Jewish bottom. So like I think, culturally he's dead on.

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<v Speaker 1>He started from the Jewish bottom. Now he's here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Dante. James bald once said that when

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<v Speaker 1>people say progress, what they really mean is the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to be more white.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Progress is a trick. Bad We're showed in order to

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<v Speaker 1>strip us of our culture. Wow. Yeah, James Ball when

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<v Speaker 1>is sharp too? That was a sharp man, bro, he's sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>He got out of here too. That nigga moved to England.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he moved to Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>He was gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, nothing says pro black like moving to Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Steve ergo blacker than Drake. It's just such a

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<v Speaker 1>weird question, Ronald Green Junior. But the answer is yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a nigga man. You ain't getting away from being.

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<v Speaker 3>A Nigga the actor, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, yes, Ergo, the character Ergo is blacker than the

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<v Speaker 1>character that is Drake. Yes, Carson raised people are suburban. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they live in the suburbs. But you know, like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to where the cabbage patches are, if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to where the the.

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<v Speaker 2>The delamos are, the Stevenson villages.

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<v Speaker 4>Are there, where where's uh ray j from his hood, Centerview,

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<v Speaker 4>the c Interview area, you could think that suburb that

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<v Speaker 4>is not no standard suburb.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, the culture is there, so that is a suburban area,

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<v Speaker 1>but the culture is so densely there because they border

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<v Speaker 1>these urban areas like Compton that they have responded like

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<v Speaker 1>with full fledged cultural movements. They are fully aware of

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<v Speaker 1>the culture. Yes, that area is considered the suburbs, but

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<v Speaker 1>them guys are not suburban.

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<v Speaker 2>So again that's what I'm saying. Hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>While hip hop is very much street urban culture personified

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<v Speaker 1>through the arts and elements, street urban culture is only

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<v Speaker 1>grown in masses in that place. But that don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that is like what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 2>When yo? You know what I mean? When you can't

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<v Speaker 2>breathe and you be sneezing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like allergies, Yeah, allergies.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know pollend, that pollend fly all around the

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<v Speaker 1>urban areas and go to suburbs that pollend is around

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<v Speaker 1>and people breathing in and there, and they shit changes

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to live differently because they too close

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<v Speaker 1>to the culture. They too close. So yes, while Centerview

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<v Speaker 1>is a suburban area, it is cultured out of this

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<v Speaker 1>world and then people will kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>It is different.

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<v Speaker 1>Same for all of these other places that's right there

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<v Speaker 1>next to you know, that's right under the palm tree

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<v Speaker 1>that we call street urban culture. It the pollen flies

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<v Speaker 1>all around it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's that's kind of it's kind of a fluid

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<v Speaker 3>murky definition. I mean Compton and its initial construction was suburban.

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<v Speaker 3>Lynnwood's suburban.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's as as zones shift and thin, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like literally like like zoning in the legal sense, things change.

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<v Speaker 3>It now becomes a little more subjective in your definition.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Dante eighty six. I suggest folks read

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<v Speaker 1>Eve Franklin Fraser's but Black Bourgeois. If people don't think

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<v Speaker 1>suburban black people aren't culturally in proximity to whiteness, then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they tell you. Of course they

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<v Speaker 1>are d MO radio. Everybody can't have the black experience glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not true. Again, they can, they can know

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<v Speaker 1>d like they can have the black experience.

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<v Speaker 2>They can. People can be misch.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Mexican people that I grew up with beat

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<v Speaker 1>treat it like niggas, just like how we were treated.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people who moved to this country moved

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<v Speaker 3>because they were having an equivalent to the black experience

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<v Speaker 3>in another country. Like the best example in California is

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<v Speaker 3>the Mongs in Vietnam. Yeah, the second Yeah, like they're

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<v Speaker 3>like second class citizens out of there and they bounced.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, it's one of those things where I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that Mario Paulo shout out to demo. No they can't,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they can, Demo, we'll politic on the demo. I

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<v Speaker 1>G hear me on ig Brody. We'll talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>on live once I hop off here. We're finna be

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<v Speaker 1>done in six minutes, so DM me on IG DMO radio,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it on I G. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do a little bit more work today before I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wind down.

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<v Speaker 3>And real quick, I think with regard to like the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of this strain between conflict or between progress and

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<v Speaker 3>black culture, that kind of logical conflict there being like

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<v Speaker 3>if you're you're similar into white culture more or less

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<v Speaker 3>because of the original starting point of black culture and

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<v Speaker 3>the circumstances around it, that cultural paradigm is geared more

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<v Speaker 3>towards just finding happiness out of something. So it's a

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<v Speaker 3>happiness oriented uh, priorities priority, whereas white culture is a

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<v Speaker 3>wealth oriented priority so.

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<v Speaker 2>Called I call it happiness versus joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Joy is more of a long term, consistent, residual happiness

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<v Speaker 1>effect versus blackness is defining in very short term things. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So again to end this pod is it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>end this stream, It's like it's unique, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's unique. It's uh did The facts are

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<v Speaker 1>never easy, you know? Displaying the facts are never easy

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<v Speaker 1>telling people because what I'm saying is facts. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>even my opinion, right Like, and when you really lay

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<v Speaker 1>out the facts, you will see that these are just

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<v Speaker 1>the facts. My opinion is a is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more unique, you know what I'm saying. But the facts

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<v Speaker 1>are simple. With the burden of culture comes villainy because

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<v Speaker 1>you represent a minute. And the more you try to

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<v Speaker 1>align yourself with what would be acceptable for people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you try to align yourself at what would

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<v Speaker 1>be more acceptable for people, you start to lose the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Martin Luther King's greatest fear, like as he

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<v Speaker 1>carried on and believed that people can exist. By the

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<v Speaker 1>end of his life, he realized that he probably was

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<v Speaker 1>leading black people into a burning house.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, like Martin Luther King died a villain to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree. You know, the more culture you are, you

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<v Speaker 1>just become a villain. It's just how I go, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just how I go. And again, this is No

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<v Speaker 1>Sellers Live to Lunch Hour every Monday, Wednesday and Friday

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<v Speaker 1>that we're back here Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Revenge.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go to IG Demo IG. We'll chop this

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<v Speaker 1>up on IG, We'll politic on it. Going to link

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<v Speaker 1>actually is Wednesday. We're gonna do it Wednesday. My birthday

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<v Speaker 1>is tomorrow. Man, just say have your Birthday's cool, but

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday is my official birthday party on the live stream.

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