1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: What a freaking game. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Seven. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: It's the live FOTS game, though it's presented by Fox One. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: You've got the OG career here, bron Aj Kratz. Let's 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: do this. George Springer swings the Toronto Blue Jays back 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: into the World Series for the first time since nineteen 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: ninety three. Dude, that was good. That was That was 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: the whole way come back win for the team that 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: comes back and wins more games than any MLBAT. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, is what it is. It was a great game. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: There are so many things to talk about. I mean, 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: where's Munos? Where's Brash in that situation? Lead off walk 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 3: with Brian wu Oh, I mean did you leave? I 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: was sitting there going you got to get b R 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: out of the game. You got to get b R 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: out of the game. He got him out in just 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: in time. And Louis Varland, who's arm literally is about 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: to probably fall off at this point. What do you 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: think said they've had ten playoff games, he's thrown in 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: nine of them. From eleven they son and nine. I 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: mean that's ridiculous. I mean, like I joked around earlier 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: on FT, I think he probably threw a simulated game 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: on the off day, just to make sure he felt normal. 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: I mean, he gets a few days off now. But 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: congratulations to the Blue Jays. I mean congrat wow. I 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: mean the Mariners were so close to their first one ever, 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: so close. I had my Maya copa. I hope you 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: had your Maya copa ready, because I have my Maya 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: copa ready for the Mariners because we mocked them and 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: we said it and we said it, and I was like, 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: if they make the World Series, you know what, they 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: did it right? But they did. They only won the 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: playoff of their playoff. They were six and six. 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: It's true. The Toronto Blue Jays get to experience World 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Series baseball for the first time in a long damn time. Crats, 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: you played for this team. How cool is this? 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: I was drafted by this team. It's so cool. My 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: first roommate ever, John Schneider, my first trainer ever, Vood Chung. 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: My second favorite trainer ever, Jose Ministraul. Like Pete Walker's 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: been there. Pete Walker was a player in Big League 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: camp when I was there, and now he is a 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: the pitching coach that I think the longest tenured pitching 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: coach in the Big leagues. He's getting there. De Marlo Hale, 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: He's going to the World Series, like you're I'm just 45 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: excited for so many of the guys that are on 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: that team, Like one of one of my teams is 47 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: still left in the postseason. 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Give me the goods on the game. We gotta start 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: with Springer, like, tell me what's going on here. Bizardo 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: comes in the game first, the positive side of things right, 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: and then we can smash Dan Wilson's ridiculously bad decision. 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: But for George Springer gets a somewhat middle middle fastball 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: and he did what he was supposed to. 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: Funny though, the last since he got hitting the knee. 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: These last two games, he looked late. He was like 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: late late, late, late, and under late and under. That 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: was the first one he was on time for. He 58 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: didn't miss it. It was it was ridiculous, were absolutely ridiculous. 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: The stat at the end is ridiculous to me. The 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: stat at the end, he's tied third all time for 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: his ninth tying or go ahead home run in the postseason, 62 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: ninth ninth times. That is a crazy number. So it's 63 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: almost like we said it on FT like a guy 64 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: like George Springer. That's why they brought him in for 65 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: playoff you know, his playoff clutchness, even though he wasn't 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: having good years other years. And now they make it 67 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: to the playoffs partially on his back because he had 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: an incredible regular season. You're like, you knew he was 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: going to do it. But then you're like, no, way, 70 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: like cal Raley, it's the year of cal It's a 71 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: year of cal Rawley, Like he's already put their team ahead. 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: Of course cal Rally would, and then George just comes 73 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: out of nowhere and. 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Unbelievable comes out of nowhere. This season. George, Yeah, looked like. 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: He had an unbelievable year the Twilight. 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: He came back his top five hitter in the American 77 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: League for sure. I mean he's going to be I 78 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: think top five l MBP in the American League. Like 79 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: he was that good. 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: Good thing. They didn't give the Yankees the division. 81 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: For real. 82 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: They finished strong, I mean Baseball, Major League Baseball. 83 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh, but also winning the division really did help, by. 84 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: Word series for Louis Ireland. 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: That's that's the only person that needed to win the division. 86 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: Louis Arland's like, had we played three more games, I'd 87 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: be cooked. I'd be washed. 88 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Bro, what they're about to play four to seven more? 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: Say, if he had to play in the wild card, 90 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: that would have been three more games that he would 91 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: have had to play in. 92 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: Exactly. They might construct their decision making differently next rounds 93 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: because there are some things that just don't seem to 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: be working. Well, can I get a little more Chris. 95 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: Bassett in that we get somewhere, Sir Anthony, He's been 96 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: pretty good too. 97 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Let's switch it up. 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing against the Dodgers. You're gonna have 99 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: to use flu Hardy, You're gonna have to use little 100 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: because show hey freddye Max, those lefties. You're gonna have 101 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: to use some of your lefties a little bit more wower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 102 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: So it doesn't get any easier, but congratulations as the 103 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: Blue Jays paper Tigers no more. 104 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: Okay. So Dan Wilson in a pressure situation in the 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: bottom of the seventh th Inny and most people are going, okay, 106 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Barger walk ikf single up the middle, huge bottom of 107 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: the order, getting it done. Him and his sack butt 108 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: pitching change Bizardo, where's Minos. 109 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Where's brash? 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: Brash pitched last night. He was tired. 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: He's tired. 112 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: And Game seven, I don't know. 113 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: I know he went thirty some odd pitches. But okay, 114 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: then use Minos, yes, Chandler Rome. 115 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: Here here's the thing where I think Dan Wilson said 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: about Munno's he didn't think he could get him made out, 117 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: so he was just hoping Bizardo could get through that, 118 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: get him two outs. And then he'd used Munos to. 119 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: The last six, so he felt like Bizardo was really 120 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah, he's his second best high leverage 121 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: opption and. 122 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: That he showed you what he thought. Why who he 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: brought in? Okay, actions right, card speak louder in words, 124 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: I'll tell you exactly how they feel, especially in this 125 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: game baseball. Kick your ass and I'll take exactly how 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: you feel. 127 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 2: Picture what picture always asks? Hey, was that a good pitch? 128 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: The hitter will tell you if it was a good 129 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: picture not he hit it into the sixth row. No, 130 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: it wasn't a good pitch. I don't care where you 131 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: threw it. The hitter will tell you the like the 132 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: manager will tell you who he thinks is the best, 133 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: better than Brash. I know Brash struggled with command Bizarta 134 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: was good, but I feel like he got like it's 135 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: the old Uh this is you know, Buck Showwalter. 136 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: How do you lose? 137 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: How do you lose the game to the Blue Jays 138 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: with Zach Britton in the bullpen? How do you lose 139 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: this game without Munnos getting the six outs? Even if 140 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: you don't think he can get you eight, you figure 141 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: it out. You get like that out was George Springer 142 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: was the out. Nathan Lucas the next batter was gonna 143 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: be the out if you get the vlad was gonna 144 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: be the out that he needed to get. Cause you 145 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: don't even they didn't even get to the ninth inning, 146 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: so they really only needed six more outs, Like they 147 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: didn't need a ninth inning because they weren't winning anymore. 148 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, you're so worried about Oh, I don't wanna. 149 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do later on in 150 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: the game doesn't matter. This is that exact moment where 151 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: you look and go, Okay, one of the best hitters 152 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: in the sport this year, George Springer is stepping up 153 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: with two in scoring position. This is the game right here, 154 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: and I mean I'm gonna be hard on Dan Wilson 155 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: for inexperience in the postseason in this spot, twenty five 156 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: plus managers in our sport right now bringing their closer 157 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: in that spot. You have an ace reliever, Andres Munos 158 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: is money hasn't pitched, and you used the past. 159 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: We used one of your starters in the ninth if 160 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: you have to. That's what you've seen, got you. You 161 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: saw with the Dodgers last year, who'd they used to 162 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: close out the World Series? Walker Bueller right, because they 163 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: used trying in in the seventh. 164 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: And the eighth. So, Luis Castillo, I mean anybody. 165 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: Crash could have been anybody could have been spired, depending 166 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 3: on where they were in the lineup. Yeah, I mean 167 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: it could have been anybody. I mean the probably So 168 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: if they let's say, let's say Munos comes in and 169 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: gets Springer and Lucas and then he gets then it 170 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: will be three four five, So they're at the bottom 171 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: of their order, six, seven, eight. 172 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: This is the game, the game period. You fucked up? 173 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 3: Okay, come on, I mean, I'm. 174 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Telling you most managers, it's hard to find many managers 175 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: that wouldn't do that, that wouldn't go with their ace 176 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: reliever Andres Munos is what a top five to ten closer. 177 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 3: He was top by three closer. His slider was the 178 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: one of the if not the best pitching baby. I 179 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: think School's change up second best. Muno's change up was 180 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: two best pitch in all of baseball for run factor, 181 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: wactor jack or whatever the hell they do with. 182 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're in trouble in the fifth, okay, but 183 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: you're in trouble in the bottom of the seventh Inny 184 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: with an out. 185 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: I know, we we so many people, so many I 186 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: don't want this conversation to get lumped in with so 187 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: many people like second guessing, like shouldn't have wanted there, 188 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: shouldn't have taken the starter out? All this stuff. To me, 189 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: this is a this is a slam dunk situation. This 190 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: is the game. I used to have a manager that 191 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: used to put key at bat of the game and 192 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: it just k a B G keyep b out of 193 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: the game. You always put it right next to it, 194 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: and then we talk about it the next day, so 195 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: you see it in, you see it in the moment, 196 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: and then you start learning, Okay, well, these are the 197 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: situations where you have to bring him in. How he 198 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: doesn't bring him in I have no idea. This is 199 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: not us second guessing. To me, I think he messed up. 200 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: I mean we can second guess a lot. Because here's 201 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: my next question. Should he have left George Kirby out 202 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: there for another inning? Because then it backs WU up 203 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: another inning, and it backs all these other guys up 204 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: in another inning. He was rolling like they couldn't touch George Kirby. 205 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: But because this is kind of what we talk again, 206 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: this is what we talked about, and they mentioned it 207 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: on the broadcast, like, you have so many options as 208 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: a manager in these games because you have all these 209 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: starters that are not down there, and you have all 210 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: these different things you can play around with. Did he 211 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: just say, well, he gave us four, let's just let's 212 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: rush to let's hurry up and get Wu in the game, 213 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: because he can give us two maybe three. Right, But 214 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: the leadoff walk was the key to that whole inning. 215 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: He walked, you can't have a leadoff walk right there. 216 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: You cannot walk who do you walk? Menez? No, who 217 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: do you walk? Oh Barger to start the inning right, 218 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: and then Kinner fileff I got the hit, and then 219 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: Jimenez bunded, Yes, yes, but you can't have a lead 220 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: off walk. But again, should you have left Kirby in 221 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: the game for one more inning and then all of 222 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: a sudden that's five and then you have Wu six 223 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: to seven and then Monos eight nine, and. 224 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: You were up three to one at that point. It 225 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: went from one run to two runs with the advantage. 226 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: The dumper homer, Uh huh. I don't know, it's it's that. 227 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: One though, Like these things are more debatable, there was 228 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: one moment here that everyone is going to talk about 229 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: like Seattle history here right, we're gonna go. George Springer 230 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: had his at the Joe Carter moment in Toronto. 231 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: And he had Jose. 232 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: Okay okay, and Dan Wilson had the. 233 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 3: Buck Showalter against the Blue Jays in Toronto when he 234 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 3: didn't bring Zach Brittany brought a new ball. 235 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: Though, I mean, you can't do it. You can't do it. 236 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: There's no more iconic home run noise than the Toronto 237 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: Blue Jays hockey horn foghorn. It's the best. 238 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: It's the best unless you're a Mariners fan and your 239 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: heartbroken right now. And of course we'll do our post 240 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: mortem and all that on this team this week. If 241 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: you're a baseball fan, that's a chills moment. 242 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: You know, it was awesome. 243 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: That's not like and there's no evil empire up there 244 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: that had been to the World Series. 245 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: How many years is that ninety three to now thirty 246 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: two years? 247 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: Thirty two years, So you're watching that, you're like, it's 248 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: pretty cool. 249 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, It was, It was. It was. Listen, 250 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: George Springer doesn't even remember running around the basis. He 251 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: just knows he swung and hit the ball and whatever. 252 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: I mean, what what he did jumping around and acting 253 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: the full He don't even remember, no know what. He'll 254 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: go back and watch him be like, I don't even 255 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: remember that. 256 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: It looked like he lost his breath because he was yelling. 257 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: It looked like when he got in there, he would 258 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: like put his hands like on the pat wrack and 259 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: was like he had like a Brett Phillips moment where 260 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: Brett Brett Phillips was like running around and he's like, 261 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: oh boy, got kind of dizzy there. That's what look, 262 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 2: That's what George looked like. He was just besides, he 263 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: couldn't you probably couldn't hear yourself think in that stadium, 264 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: the roof was closed, but they say forty four thousand, 265 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 2: forty eight thousand something like that. 266 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, forty five ish, yep, chill. 267 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: But see that that that home run was all set 268 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 3: up by what I talked about the last two games. 269 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: He's been missing fastball after fastball, and as the hole 270 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: at bat, every bat in this game was he just 271 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: got nothing but heater sown at him. And that was 272 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: just a heater right out of the ding day. I mean, 273 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: he wasn't late. That was the first one. He wasn't 274 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: late on all night and he didn't miss it it. 275 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a gossman got out of that big jam. 276 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Ninety seven heaterd nowadays. 277 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: But that's kind of what I'm saying. But it had 278 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: all been set up because if you watch Kirby attack 279 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: and he walked him as first a beat all heaters, 280 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: the next about all heaters, lou all heaters right, just 281 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: made adjustment. Good for him. 282 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: All Right, we got more to go. So first off, 283 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: if you're watching us right now live or later on, 284 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: subscribe to vowel Territory, the YouTube channel. He might be like, 285 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I already do this, but you'd be surprised. We actually 286 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: see the stats There are many people that get this 287 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: little dang this little reminder, and they say, yeah, I'll 288 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: throw them some love with a little click, So we 289 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Okay, I want to focus on John Schneider's 290 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: bullpen decisions because he had to get crafty late. Right, 291 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Gosman gets in here, Bassett gets in here. Hoffman pitches 292 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: the ninth and says, don't you dare say that I 293 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: give up home runs. I close out this game for you. 294 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: And he did it nicely. He did a really nice 295 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: job and said post game, yeah, my goal is to 296 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: not get to cal Roll in the lineup. Good for you, 297 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: great answer, But what do you think of the way 298 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: that he navigated through the game, Because this wasn't prime 299 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Shane Bieber. This wasn't Biber. 300 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: Bieber Beaver slider wasn't sliding. 301 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't as bad as the Yanks game appearance. 302 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: No, but it wasn't. But it wasn't a mirror sharp 303 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: And that's one thing you know, when you have Tommy 304 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: John We've talked about this before, you have a good 305 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: start and then you kind of have a bad start 306 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: because you're still kind of getting back to the field. Remember 307 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: this was about his tenth start in like almost two years. So, 308 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when did you get Shane Bieber 309 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: on the on the on the line. I don't have 310 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: to call him after tomorrow, see if we can get 311 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: out of Money's great, he talk soccer, he loves soccer. 312 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: But after that, after that, but his slider wasn't as 313 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: sharp as it was. I mean, the first tight, his 314 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: slider was getting like three corps away there and just 315 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: going show. This one was a little more roly poly. 316 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: This time it just wasn't the same and and and honestly, 317 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: I didn't think he was gonna get When we talked 318 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: to Ben Nicholson Smith today or on FT, he said, 319 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's probably gonna give him five. But his 320 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: stuff was going, I'm like, he's he bet they should 321 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: have got him out of for three and gone to somebody. 322 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: Now he got three and two thirds, and then Louis 323 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: Varlin came in and got the out and then gave 324 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: up the homer the bomb to cal Rawley. But then 325 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: I thought he I thought, I thought Schnyder did a 326 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: good job with this. He got Domingas to get him 327 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: an inning, Gosman got him an inning basket, got him 328 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: an inning, and then once they had the lead, Hoffman 329 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: came in and was pretty easy in the night three punchies. 330 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: So I guess Schnyder feels like he's got three guys 331 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: because Gosman and Bassett, Like if he thinks he has Varlin, 332 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: Dominguez and Hoffman, he feels like he has three guys. 333 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: If that's who he went to tonight, I got it 334 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: the right hand heavy, so you're not gonna necessarily see 335 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: as much flu Hardy and Lower and and Little. But 336 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: to me, that's his circle of trust. And he was like, Bassett, 337 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: I need you. But is Bassett gonna give him a 338 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: start in the world series. 339 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: Or do more of this Pratt? Maybe Max is still 340 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: the fourth charter and Bassett appears more, maybe the circle 341 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: of trust opens up a little bit more. 342 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: Now it's gonna be different because you got those lefties, 343 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: so you're gonna need to use your lefties. They didn't 344 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: use their lefties. 345 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: At all in this series. 346 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 3: They didn't lose flu Hardy, they didn't lose Little because 347 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 3: guess what you got show, Hey, Freddy Max coming into 348 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: town on Friday. Get your lefties ready, kids. 349 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: I know someone that can get lefties and righty as 350 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: we just talked about him, and obviously he's gonna start 351 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: in games. But do you think there's any chance that 352 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: Schneider goes who did this like Alex Core remember when 353 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: the Red Sox won, He would bring like Porcello and 354 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: those kind of guys in on their throat days like 355 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Gosman did that for this one. Could you do that 356 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: in the World Series? Why not? 357 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 3: You could? But I don't think I think they have 358 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: enough depth in their starting don't. I don't think they'll 359 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: do that. But how about speaking of Goslin, how about 360 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: two outs no on? They walked the big Dumper intentionally 361 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: two outs. 362 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Nobody on, and then he walked Nayler after that. 363 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he gots what I'm saying, he got 364 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: in trouble. He got Polanco to get out of it. 365 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, you walk a guy with 366 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 3: two outs and nobody on with was this Barry Bonds. 367 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: Can't hurt? 368 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean against Osman, he's Berry Bonds, true. 369 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: Right, he did have good numbers against him. 370 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: How about you just stick them? That used to be 371 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: the old thing, remember that, And we don't walk them, 372 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: just stick them. First pitch stick him. 373 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: He's a first roy oswell, he used to say. He 374 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: used to say, well, you know, man, he goes, I 375 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: knew that guy owned me, he said. So I just 376 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: want to make sure everybody knows I'm not throwing at people. 377 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: But I ain't gonna waste four pitches on nobody that 378 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: I can't get out. So I just put one right 379 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: there in his hip. Nobody. 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I mean, Lady broke the but are 421 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: they going to go Drake and try to break the 422 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: Ja Drake curse too? 423 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: Toronto starts right at home. So then a fan goes, Okay, 424 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: they go Drake. They counter with Kendrick Lamar. 425 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: That would be that would actually be awesome, that would 426 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: be so epic. I don't know, you gotta go. I 427 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: mean ice Cube was so good last year. It's hard, 428 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: that's what they were. 429 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure I say what 430 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: the past comment was there because some people will listen 431 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: to this podcast form after. But you know, a Dodger 432 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: fan got in the chat and was like, they better 433 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: not call fat Joe. Fat Joe got schooled by better 434 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: hope the blue from Fat Joe to burst into the stadium. 435 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: What if Drake fades himself and wears a Dodgers jersey 436 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: as he's performing in Toronto, because any jersey that Drake wears, 437 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: that team's losing. Whoever he adopts done. But if he 438 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: fades himself and is like, look, whoever I adopt, I'm 439 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: wearing the Dodgers jersey, and then the Dodgers will lose. 440 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: By the way, you know what's next year? Next spring 441 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: World Baseball, class base We got it early. We got 442 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: usavers Canada. Damn it, that's true. 443 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: Two country square. 444 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: Two country squaring off. You're cratzy. 445 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Japan's taken over the series either way. 446 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So now we have Japan and USA versus Canada. 447 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: Right, it's really just Japan versus Canada, right, Team. 448 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: Japan, although Freddy's on Freddy's on team Canada. So what 449 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: is it is Freddie's secretly rooting for the Jays to win? 450 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: Is he gonna? 451 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: Naylor is Canadian? 452 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: And he just played I was going to Cancun right now. 453 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: By the way, we didn't get into the nailor play. 454 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: By the way, holy shit. 455 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: That so much after that. 456 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I've done some crazy ship on the field, 457 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: but I've never jumped and tried to get smoked by 458 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: the ball before. And he could say he wasn't trying to, 459 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 3: but you were trying to. Bro It was awesome. I 460 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: mean it was kind of awesome in a in an 461 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: awesome not awesome way crazy. 462 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: I will I will die tonight. I will die if 463 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: that wins. It's the damn game. I'll tend to think 464 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: of it took a while. 465 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: For them to be Josh Shudder came out and is like, hey, 466 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: what a second year, Like we didn't forgot about that 467 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: because all the other crap happened. In the end. He 468 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 3: literally just jumped and turned his back AND's like, are 469 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: you not entertained rock right in the back. 470 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Of the head down He goes, you brought it like 471 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: a whole new rule into the game, where like, okay, 472 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: throws coming over. 473 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: Remember when Judge got accused of sliding and it hit 474 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 3: his hand, and like they're like, he did that on purpose. 475 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: This one, actually Josh Taylor did do on purpose. 476 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: It's so true. People were like happy gilmart just taking 477 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: it to whatever days. 478 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was good. 479 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert came on the show and said he'll do 480 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: He'll do anything to win Exhibit A. 481 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: That was about that was that was the today's version 482 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: of hal McCrae, just going in and tackling dudes in 483 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: the world series like that was the new version of that, 484 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: the new school version of hal mccraye. Is dumping dudes 485 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: into left field. 486 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: Dude Naylor is hit like that. That dude's a gamer. 487 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, had a great postseason. He's hitting his free 488 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: agent year. Remember we smashed the Guardians for trading him 489 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: away and they got a good piece back in Chaconi. 490 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: But still they missed him a lot. Man. He's a piece. 491 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: He is a clutch player. He's a winning player. Someone's 492 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna be happy to sign him this off season. 493 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 3: A nailor, man. He gets big hits for you, he does, 494 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: and he loves those moments. 495 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: It's tough to pitch too. 496 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 3: He loves those moments, man. 497 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So the story that's going to dominate the next 498 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: few days in my mind is Boba Sheet is making progress. 499 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: This like snuck through. We spoke to Ben Nicholson Smith. 500 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: He was the first one that put this out there 501 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: on Twitter a few hours after he was on our 502 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: show Sportsnight Reporter Covers the Blue Jays. He said, bo 503 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: is making significant progress at the plate, more running in 504 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: the outfield. The true test that we've talked about the 505 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: whole time is running the bases. 506 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: I don't care. I stick with what I got right. 507 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: I know he's a great player, but what you're gonna 508 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 3: d h him for Springer. I mean, you're gonna put 509 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: him at shortstop and he can't move with his knee 510 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: and ahead of a mine who's been unbelievable at shortstop. 511 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: You're gonna take Ernie Clement out of the lineup right now? 512 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: Who's on fire? Who you take him out? 513 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: Get him at second for? 514 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: You ain't doing that. I don't know. I mean, listen, 515 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: as much as I think Bo is an awesome player, 516 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 3: right now, I just think you just say, look, man, 517 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We were rolling with what we got. 518 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: Sure, he's really good. 519 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: I just said he's really good. I think he's an 520 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: awesome player. 521 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: He can well well Looper, Fido replace Santander? 522 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: Okay, does he you need him? 523 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: You need the outfielder. You can't have him as a 524 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: bench bat who Bo? 525 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: I guess you can. But if he hasn't played in 526 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: a month, you ain't gonna You're just gonna run him 527 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: up there with the on the line in the ninth inning. 528 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 3: He ain't had a bat in a. 529 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: Month, and they don't really pinch it much. 530 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: No, I don't know, Kratzy. 531 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: I mean, if he's healthy, I'm sorry, I gotta find 532 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: a way to get him in the lineup where Yeah, 533 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you got it. You gotta figure it out. 534 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: Healthy is relative, Bobashett healthy, he's not. He's probably not 535 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: playing better defense than Andre Semenez. Andre Semenez came up 536 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 2: a shortstop and he's been bawling out there. He's obviously 537 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: a Platinum Glove second baseman. But to me, that's a 538 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: that is a better lineup. That's a better lineup. I'm 539 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: not I'm not saying I have the answer where he goes. 540 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: You can't put you can't put George out in the outfield. 541 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: But to me, Bo is definitely gonna be on the roster. 542 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: I don't think AJ is saying he's not on the 543 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: roster where he's that in the lineup? Man, I got, 544 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: I got. I gotta know if he's running, if he's 545 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: run the bases at full speed, he's out there. He 546 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: might start at second I might even make a poor 547 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: choice and start him at start him at shortstop. I'll 548 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: be honest. You gotta score runs. The Dodgers are not 549 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: going to They're not going to give you free runs. 550 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: So you got to take every one of them that 551 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: you can get. There's a fight. 552 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's a great, it's a great, 553 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 3: it's a great question, it's a great. 554 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm on the craft side here. He's got to be 555 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: on the roster. He's gotta be on it. 556 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 3: Why does he gotta be on the roster? 557 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: Top three hit he's better than the twenty guy and. 558 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: He's a hig tool guy like I think he can. 559 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 3: Send him to and this week, this week and get 560 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: him some bats. 561 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Were sim game them up here at workouts? 562 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do that. 563 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: I mean it's a layoff now, So what's today Monday? 564 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: Same game anyway, all of them right, they're. 565 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: Gonna be. 566 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: You'll definitely do something on like a Wednesday. Yeah, tomorrow's off. 567 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: Tomorrow will be off. Wednesday will be some sort of 568 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: a something more, and then Thursday will be just DP 569 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: and then Friday is a go time, no travel. 570 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: No. 571 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 3: I wonder, I wonder if the Fox screw, like if 572 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: little Ken just stays in Toronto for. 573 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: Ken Kenn is staying in Toronto because he's on with 574 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: us tomorrow. It's confirmed. 575 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: And they'll bring the Stay Hot They'll bring the Stay 576 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: Hot kids up too. All the guys that have been 577 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: down in Dunedin at Stay Hot camp. They'll probably come 578 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: up to you know, pitchers would come up and guys 579 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: would take at bats, guys that haven't gotten any abs, Like, 580 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: let's see who else low berfeedo. He was probably at 581 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: stay hot camp and that's when he got he replaced 582 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: Santandre uh Tyler. Heineman hasn't gotten any at bats. I'm 583 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: sure bo would hop in there if he hasn't been 584 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: hopping in there. But also they have the traject, so 585 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: I assume that trajected. 586 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: They gotta damn disco ball. They gotta damn disco ball 587 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: and a light show and a fog machine going right 588 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: now in their locker room. They got to traject exactly. 589 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: The Blue Jays as an org, they take care of 590 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: things there. They have to, they do. But you're recruiting players. 591 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna be fascinating that this is gonna 592 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: be a fact. I know, we have days to dig in. 593 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: This fascinating. Just they just keep showing you savage, you 594 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: savage against the Dodgers. They've never seen them. 595 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: It's cool. 596 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna be it's gonna be a it's 597 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: gonna be fast. I mean, it's gonna be fascinating my 598 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: world series pick is out now, damn it. I had 599 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: Dodgers Mariners for the start, but that's okay. I mean, 600 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: I know, but. 601 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: As soon as spring, I mean not spring. As soon 602 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: as KP came on the show and said the Blue 603 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: Jays are bringing this back. The Blue Jays are bringing 604 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: this back when they were down two to oh, I 605 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: went on, I'm like, if KP says it with his 606 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: chest like that, I'm taking a little Blue Jays to 607 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: win the American League chainampionship. So KP dinner's on me. 608 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: This time. 609 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: KP was right. He was getting smashed, so he was 610 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: really good. He was like, this series is going to 611 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: get crazy, unpredictable. And it was then Friday he comes 612 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: on and he was like, blue Jays are winning to 613 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 1: rap and then obviously everyone's just like cool because you're 614 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: a Toronto guy and they did win. Let's finish with this, 615 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: not that one. I'm going to do another, but I'll 616 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: read this. Blue Jays are the fourth team to win 617 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: a best of seven series despite losing the first two 618 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: games at home, joining then six eighty six Mets and 619 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: eighty five Royals all in the World Series. You missed 620 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: that Friday show that we had where I brought that 621 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: start up, and then we spent like half the show 622 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: trying to make sure that it was real. Fact checkers 623 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: happened since ninety six. 624 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: That's why the eighty six Red Sox still are one 625 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: of the most unbelievable losses of all time. They won 626 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: the first two at Shay, and then they obviously had 627 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: the Bill Buckner Oil Camboid all that Roger Clements still 628 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: starting in game seven and ready to go. They had 629 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: a lead and blew that one too. People forget about 630 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: that Bob Stanley, the Steamer, great coach by the way, 631 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: great guy too, really great guy. Felt bad for him. 632 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: But anyways, last thing eighty five Royals Don Deckinger missed 633 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: a call first, remember that one ninety six ninety six 634 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: Yankees lost the first two to the Braves, and then 635 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: went down there and just Jim Layritz, the Jim Layot's homer, 636 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: Mark Wohlers, I believe. 637 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, started up the dynasty the Braves. 638 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: The Braves lost a lot. 639 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: Wait, so last thing on the Managers, last thing on 640 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, last thing on the Manners. First, Dan 641 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Wilson spoke already. He said he went to Bizardo for 642 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Springer because Bizarta has been handling those pivot type moments 643 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: for them all season. 644 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, he wasn't even it was even. I mean, 645 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know his I mean, I know 646 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: he pitched a lot, but he on the team the 647 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 3: whole year. He wasn't pitching the seventh and me thinning 648 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year. 649 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: No, No, this was his breakout this year. 650 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I had to have an answer. 651 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: I've never heard I've never heard of pivot moments. I've 652 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: never heard that term used. That's the word to use, pivot. 653 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: Uh, that's the tweet I got here from Chelsea Jaan's 654 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: Washington Post. 655 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: Anyways, Ross, Atkins and Shapiro, congratulations too. We've we we 656 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: gave him a lot of shit. But congratulations of them. 657 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because some years they worship but now they're not. 658 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: And this is when this is. 659 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: Their contract year and a lot of people by John 660 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: Schneider a getting fired early in the year and here 661 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: he goes to the World Series. So congratulations, Shides and. 662 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: Congratulations graduation outmanaged congratulations Snides, Yes, congratulations John Snyder, Ye, 663 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: John Schneider, congrats. 664 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: I was trying to see real quick. If the Pizardo 665 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: has been doing this the entire. 666 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: Year and I never heard of a pivot moment. 667 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: It's like your fireman man is a fire man in 668 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: this spot. I have a hard time with this. But 669 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Soda Mariners fans, we're gonna do a therapy session for you. 670 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: I know you want to hear it. But we've got 671 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: FT one o'clock Eastern Time Tuesday and for the rest 672 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: of the week will be previewing the World Series because 673 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: the World Series doesn't start until Friday night. This was 674 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: so fun. I wish the World Series started way sooner. 675 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: But I get it. 676 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: Why, I guess because it would have been Game seven 677 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: for the NL tomorrow and that would have given them. Yes, yes, 678 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: so Faturday Thursday, that would have given them two days 679 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: for travel. 680 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: And then Friday. It doesn't. 681 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: It's you don't want to they don't. We all know 682 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: they don't want to fight the NFL. 683 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: Right, so it lines up with Friday Saturday off, Monday, Tuesday, 684 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: Wednesday off Thursday, Friday Saturday. Shout out to the brand new, 685 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: very popular Fox one app which will have the twenty 686 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: twenty five World Series starting on Friday, and if you're 687 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: looking for it, you can download the Fox one app. 688 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: You can sign up. You can get yourself a free 689 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: seven day trial. Look in the description for the link, 690 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: click it and get more info there. Thank you so 691 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: much for watching the Ft Live postgame show or listening. 692 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: For all your podcast listeners out there, we will see 693 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: you for our regular spot one o'clock Eastern time on Tuesday. 694 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: World series starts Friday,